[00:00] <quiescens> and then if it is in a file of its own, you could dpkg -S
[00:00] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, it does not, OMG i have no drives
[00:00] <quiescens> first run of blkid needs sudo
[00:01] <Xorxe> ok
[00:01] <Katronix> Hi all, for an Ubuntu server, what do you have to do to get php to re-load the php.ini file?
[00:01] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: you have to sudo blkid
[00:01] <gurgalof> haz3lnut,  then it shows, /dev/sda1: UUID="365ea073-fc25-45f5-ade1-b0170e9fc236" TYPE="ext4"
[00:01] <wylde> Katronix: restart your webserver, if it's apache2 sudo service apache2 restart
[00:02] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, nothing more
[00:02] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: I'm running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" again
[00:03] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: than you have no disks
[00:03] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas:  was just about to suggest that :)
[00:03] <haz3lnut> apparently /sys/block/zram0/disksize sets the size of this magic disk
[00:03] <CharminTheMoose> I'm trying to removve /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/framebuffer and plymouth scripts, but they keep on getting created everytime I run update-initramfs. How do I stop this from happening?
[00:03] <quiescens> technically it sets a maximum, or "apparant" size
[00:04] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: now "dpkg -s ubuntu-restricted-extras" says "Status install ok installed" :)
[00:04] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, true, I am on flash :P
[00:04] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: happy days :)
[00:04] <haz3lnut> I'm going to set this size to 1gb and reboot.
[00:04] <haz3lnut> brb
[00:05] <quiescens> i doubt that will do much
[00:05] <GhostConn> i need help with plymouth manager in ubuntu 11:10
[00:06] <vVREDVv> Hey any one know where I can manually download the unity rotate plugin? (latest version)
[00:06] <Evil_Otto> The GUI upgrade tool keeps gacking out on me about the time it runs into a particular configuratin file that is different than it expects it to be.  Can I upgrade from 10.04 to latest from the command line?
[00:06] <haz3lnut> hmmm, resource busy. any ideas?
[00:06] <GhostConn> ?
[00:07] <quiescens> you can't set its size while it is already in use
[00:07] <haz3lnut> but if it's not mounted, I can;t unmount it!
[00:07] <quiescens> I didn't say mounted
[00:08] <quiescens> swap partitions aren't mounted
[00:08] <quiescens> it is likely in swapon -s
[00:08] <kion> How do I create a launcher on Unity?
[00:08] <quiescens> you could swapoff the device
[00:08] <haz3lnut> umount: /dev/zram0: not mounted
[00:08] <kion> I installed the latest version of Blender and cant seem to create the launcher!
[00:08] <haz3lnut> yep swapoff worked
[00:08] <quiescens> i would probably grep -r zram /etc
[00:09] <wylde> haz3lnut: maybe sudo service zramswap stop
[00:10] <haz3lnut> quiescens: it's in /etc/blkid.tab
[00:11] <wylde> haz3lnut: any chance you have a zramswap.conf in /etc/init?
[00:11] <haz3lnut> wylde: no service
[00:12] <haz3lnut> wylde: nope
[00:12] <wylde> haz3lnut: bugger .. >.<
[00:12] <haz3lnut> blkid.tab is a new one to me
[00:13] <wylde> haz3lnut: any references to compcache?
[00:13] <shaneo> hey guys im trying to create a self signed server.crt and server.key but get this error unable to write 'random state'
[00:13] <shaneo> e is 65537 (0x10001)
[00:13] <shaneo> using openssl genrsa -des3 -out server.key 1024
[00:14] <xezekal> another application seems to be using the package system at this time...  How do i stop that message?
[00:14] <quiescens> haz3lnut: if it really is because of your backports thing then it is likely in /etc/init/zram-config.conf but if it isn't, then i don't know where you got it
[00:15] <haz3lnut> I found this: http://ubuntu.mindseeder.com/11.10/#zram
[00:15] <wylde> xezekal: don't run 2 package managers at the same time?
[00:15] <haz3lnut> apparently zram is also compressed
[00:16] <quiescens> that was the first thing i said
[00:16] <mcruz> ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.
[00:17] <mcruz> someone help please
[00:17] <const_antine> Hi, a ./configure script for one of the programs I'm trying to install is using pkg-config to check glibc version, and by default Ubuntu doesn't have .pc file for glibc. Is there something I can do before writing my own?
[00:18] <almoxarife> mcruz: need a working imap server? gmail?
[00:18] <mcruz> const_antine is that program pg_top right
[00:18] <haz3lnut> I can't believe out of 1500+ nics in this channel, I'm the only one who discovered this zram device.
[00:18] <wylde> mcruz: or make sure you're using the right credentials to login. Check your username/password for typos
[00:18] <mcruz> almoxarife its a local mail server
[00:19] <const_antine> mcruz, no it's vinagre and pidgin
[00:19] <mcruz> ok try apt-get install glibc6
[00:19] <xezekal> ubuntu software manager was running.....
[00:19] <mcruz> apt-get install glibc-2.10-1
[00:20] <const_antine> mcruz there's no package called anything like glibc
[00:20] <shade34331> I am trying to ssh into an ubuntu machine but I keep getting this error message, no hostkey alg, any help?
[00:20] <const_antine> there's libc6 though
[00:20] <mcruz> const_antine yes there are
[00:20] <mcruz> type apt-get install glibc and then TAB
[00:20] <mcruz> you will see
[00:21] <const_antine> Note, selecting libc6 instead of glibc-2.10-1
[00:21] <const_antine> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:21] <const_antine>   linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic linux-headers-2.6.32-33 libhttrack2 libvpx0
[00:21] <const_antine> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[00:21] <const_antine> The following extra packages will be installed:
[00:21] <const_antine>   libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686
[00:21] <FloodBot1> const_antine: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:21] <quiescens> const_antine: if you are having to do a ./configure and compile, you need the dev headers for whatever library it wants, you likely already have the library itself
[00:22] <const_antine> ?
[00:22] <const_antine> yeah i probably do
[00:23] <wylde> const_antine: tried apt-get build-dep <packagename> ?
[00:23] <const_antine> it's just that ./configure is using pkg-config to get the paths and compiler flags, and theyre set in .pc files
[00:24] <const_antine> packagename is 3rd party outside synaptic repositories
[00:24] <wylde> const_antine: ahh, right. My bad.
[00:24] <trism> const_antine: are you sure it isn't checking for glib, not glibc?
[00:25] <trism> const_antine: in which case, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[00:25] <const_antine> configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.28.0 gio-unix-2.0 >= 2.28.0 gthread-2.0 >= 2.0.0 gtk+-3.0 >= 3.0.3 gnome-keyring-1 libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.31   ) were not met
[00:25] <const_antine> uhh
[00:25] <const_antine> you're right
[00:25] <const_antine> hmm
[00:27] <const_antine> trism: Couldn't find package glib-2.0
[00:27] <trism> const_antine: see my second line, libglib2.0-dev
[00:28] <GhostConn> any hear frimiliar with plymouth manager
[00:30] <const_antine> trism: thanks, got the package
[00:30] <alteregoa> hi after installing 3.3 kernel, gui shows only a white screen
[00:31] <trism> const_antine: no problem
[00:31] <obbe> Test
[00:32] <almoxarife> alteregoa: and?
[00:32] <alteregoa> can't login to gdm
[00:33] <alteregoa> is there a way to fix this?
[00:33] <itaylor57> alteregoa, how cant you be running a 3.3 kernel in ubuntu?
[00:33] <almoxarife> alteregoa: can you get to a terminal at all? ctr-alt-f1?
[00:34] <alteregoa> i got a z68 cpu, and older kernels have problems with it
[00:34] <alteregoa> yes  i got terminal window
[00:35] <almoxarife> alteregoa: I am assuming that you know what to do from the terminal if you are smart enough to play with experimental kernels, yes?
[00:35] <alteregoa> almoxarife yes i think so
[00:36] <almoxarife> alteregoa: btw, I decided to do the same thing, worked mostly, some kernels just wouldn't , 3.2-18 didn't work for me, no idea why
[00:37] <alteregoa> im sure its just a little config change
[00:37] <AcidRain> what is a good software for linux to burn dvd titles and main menu to image file?
[00:37] <alteregoa> because it uses a new intel gpu driver
[00:37] <almoxarife> AcidRain: the installed one?
[00:37] <AcidRain> almoxarife: ... whats it called?
[00:38] <AcidRain> nvm found it. DeVeDe is what i was looking for
[00:38] <almoxarife> alteregoa: I saw that, good if you have the hardware to use it, good luck
[00:38] <almoxarife> AcidRain: brasero?
[00:38] <almoxarife> !brasero
[00:39] <AcidRain> no. brasero will burn images to disk. thats not what i want
[00:39] <almoxarife> brazero
[00:39] <AcidRain> me install/remove apps is broken it appears
[00:39] <almoxarife> AcidRain: sorry
[00:39] <AcidRain> it wont let me install anything from it
[00:40] <dubac0> hej
[00:40] <dubac0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/894502/
[00:40] <dubac0> why is rythembox not loading and how to solve this?
[00:41] <BryanRuiz> who the hell stuck a php 5.4 cli on my machine?
[00:41] <BryanRuiz> was it any of you!
[00:42] <slappy> can anyone recommend an app similar to roboform ?
[00:42] <Praxi> why not roboform?
[00:42] <haz3lnut> BryanRuiz: you caught me.
[00:43] <BryanRuiz> im trying to figure out where i got a php 5.4 binary from, anyone have any ideas?
[00:43] <BryanRuiz> this is what i get for enabling repos on my machine i bet
[00:44] <slappy> only thing i could find was roboform lite and when i installed it the roboform toolbar was greyed out
[00:44] <alteregoa> it seems to be installing xorg 2.18 from xiorg edgers
[00:44] <shade34331> I'm having an ssh problem...can anybody help me with it?
[00:45] <Praxi> !ask | shade34331
[00:45] <BryanRuiz> somehow i got php5.4 installed and im not sure how, but i need to go back to php5.3
[00:45] <BryanRuiz> anyone have any ideas?
[00:46] <AcidRain> i think installing skype has crashed my ubuntu software center to where it wont install anymore apps
[00:46] <AcidRain> very odd
[00:46] <AcidRain> anyone know a fix?
[00:46] <shade34331> I have a few ubuntu machines that I can't ssh into it. I get the error no hostkey alg when I try from any machine in our lab but ubuntu machines. I also have three ubuntu machines that I can ssh into just fine from any computer
[00:46] <haz3lnut> AcidRain: have you tried g+ hangouts?
[00:47] <AcidRain> haz3lnut: could you explain a little more what that is?
[00:47] <AcidRain> running sudo aptitude install works fine, and installs packages. but i dont wnat to do that unless i have to
[00:47] <Praxi> google+ hangouts
[00:47] <Praxi> competitor to skype
[00:47] <haz3lnut> AcidRain: google+ hangout allows for audio video chat like skype, but without mickeysoft in the middle.
[00:48] <AcidRain> ...
[00:48] <AcidRain> i dont like skype. honestly. what i want is my software center fixed :)
[00:48] <Praxi> tried google+ today with the boss, it was pretty nice, had to admit.  was honestly suprised my camera worked in ubuntu without me having to futz with something
[00:48] <shade34331> any ideas as to what my ssh problem is?
[00:49] <AcidRain> well everything worked out of box on my ubuntu 10.04 box with skype
[00:49] <AcidRain> but... software center is broken, its been broke for about a week
[00:49] <BryanRuiz> hmm i need a way of fixing php install using apt
[00:49] <Praxi> AcidRain, did you kill skype?  did you restart?
[00:49] <BryanRuiz> anyone know of one?
[00:49] <haz3lnut> shade34331: ssh -v might shed som light
[00:50] <AcidRain> skype is uninstalled now, i have restarted, but would prefer not to do it again. i have too many servers to rerun
[00:50] <BryanRuiz> can i reinstall a package without uninstalling all its dependinces?
[00:51] <Praxi> AcidRain, never having done it, can you run software center from a terminal? and does it give any additional details?
[00:51] <AcidRain> BryanRuiz: sudo aptitude install --reinstall packagename
[00:51] <AcidRain> Praxi: what is software center called so i can do this?
[00:51] <shade34331> haz3lnut: one sec and I'll show you what it says
[00:52]  * ryizzwell breakfast
[00:52] <ryizzwell> hi everyone
[00:52] <BryanRuiz> thanks AcidRain, looks like its now aptitude reinstall packagename
[00:53] <Praxi> AcidRain, software-center
[00:53] <ryizzwell> what package?
[00:53] <TeamRocket1233c> Hi guys!
[00:53] <ryizzwell> hi
[00:53] <shade34331> haz3lnut: http://fpaste.org/OjK3/
[00:53] <ryizzwell> anyone understand python here?
[00:54] <TeamRocket1233c> Wanna give Unity a shot whenever I can. That a bad idea, since everyone tends to have such a hardcore hatred towards Unity?
[00:54] <ryizzwell> unity?
[00:54] <Oer> TeamRocket1233c, unity is great.
[00:54] <Canadian1296> Is it possible to compile python into an executable program, rather than just a script, so it can run on computers without python installed?
[00:55] <Praxi> TeamRocket1233c, this is my first serious attempt at replacing my windows box with ubuntu, and I uninstalled unity hehe
[00:55] <BryanRuiz> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-cli_5.3.6-13ubuntu3.6_amd64.deb: Unable to connect to localhost:8888: [IP: 127.0.0.1 8888]
[00:55] <BryanRuiz> E: Internal Error, No file name for php5-cli
[00:55] <ryizzwell> i see
[00:55] <BryanRuiz> why is it connecting to localhost?
[00:55] <BryanRuiz> for apt reinstall
[00:55] <TeamRocket1233c> Praxi: I'm a bigger fan of GNOME 2, GNOME 3 Fallback, Openbox, LXDE, and Xfce though.
[00:56] <TeamRocket1233c> Praxi: And Fluxbox, after playing with it on Tiny Core, looks pretty sweet too.
[00:56] <ryizzwell> kde or gnome is the best?
[00:56] <Praxi> is ryizzwell a bot? seems to parrot a lot hehe
[00:57] <TeamRocket1233c> ryizzwell: Well, if you want a more Windows Vista-like feel, KDE's better, but GNOME's pretty good too.
[00:57] <ryizzwell> im not bot
[00:57] <triscuit> That's what your programmer told you to say isn't it?
[00:58] <TeamRocket1233c> ryizzwell: And if you don't like GNOME Shell, you're not entirely out of luck, as G3 has a Fallback mode that gives you a GNOME 2-style desktop.
[00:58] <Praxi> LOL triscuit, made me spit up my soda, you broke me!
[00:58] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz: been playing with dns re-direction?
[00:58] <collinjsimpson> hahah
[00:58] <triscuit> lol praxi
[00:58] <BryanRuiz> almoxarife: my stupid proxy app messed up my machine somewhere
[00:59] <BryanRuiz> almoxarife: i have no idea how to fix this
[00:59] <BryanRuiz> it isnt my proxy i dont think, otherwise the internets would be broken
[00:59] <ryizzwell> im not bot
[00:59] <AcidRain> plz turn your ryizzwell bot off
[00:59] <AcidRain> no bots here :)
[00:59] <ryizzwell> im superbot
[00:59] <AcidRain> lies
[00:59] <Praxi> nice!
[00:59] <TeamRocket1233c> Who has a bot on?
[00:59] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz: your stupid proxy app is point ubuntu.com back to 127.0.0.1, not good
[00:59] <AcidRain> noob-bot
[01:00] <ryizzwell> wakakakka why you called me bot
[01:00] <BryanRuiz> almoxarife: nah i think im wrong, i dont think its that
[01:00] <BryanRuiz> almoxarife: im not sure what is going on
[01:00] <AwesomeNerd> hi
[01:00] <collinjsimpson> he's a sly bot, isnt he.
[01:00] <BryanRuiz> almoxarife: when i ping the same url, it works
[01:00] <AcidRain> triscuit: sup lol
[01:00] <TeamRocket1233c> BryanRuiz: almoxarife : Me neither.
[01:00] <Praxi> someone bust out with the turing test
[01:00] <collinjsimpson> Praxi:  hahah
[01:00] <AcidRain> i thought i was in #jk channel for a second :)
[01:00] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz: what proxy app you using?
[01:01] <BryanRuiz> almoxarife: charles, but im not using it
[01:01] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz: alrighty then
[01:03] <TeamRocket1233c> Also, Flubuntu (Fluxbox Ubuntu) wouldn't be a bad idea.
[01:04] <Praxi> uhoh  ./configure —prefix=/opt/gimp-2.7.2
[01:04] <BryanRuiz> is that pointed at me TeamRocket1233c
[01:04] <Praxi> oops E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[01:04] <TeamRocket1233c> BryanRuiz: It's pointed at anyone, actually.
[01:04] <TeamRocket1233c> BryanRuiz: Just saying, since there's already Kubuntu, Lubuntu, and Xubuntu, why not put out a Flubuntu?
[01:05] <TeamRocket1233c> As Fluxbox honestly, isn't bad.
[01:06] <ratcheer> TeamRocket1233c: It sounds like a disease.
[01:06] <BryanRuiz> where is the file that manages my repositories sources?
[01:06] <BryanRuiz> repo*
[01:06] <TeamRocket1233c> ratcheer: Flubuntu is short for Fluxbox Ubuntu though.
[01:06] <ratcheer> TeamRocket1233c: I understand, but it still sounds more like a disease.
[01:07] <TeamRocket1233c> ratcheer: Not a bad concept, the name could use some work.
[01:07] <ratcheer> TeamRocket1233c: Yes, I know some OpenBox users who are saying they like FluxBox, better.
[01:08] <TeamRocket1233c> ratcheer: And I played a little with Fluxbox in Tiny Core and really like it.
[01:08] <almoxarife> PusPox?
[01:09] <BryanRuiz> so im doing this: wget http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release.gpg
[01:09] <shade34331> haz3lnut: I'm sorry had to step away for a second so I didn't catch if you said anything
[01:09] <BryanRuiz> and its connecting to localhost, why is that?
[01:09] <TeamRocket1233c> ratcheer: Not the biggest fan of FLWM though.
[01:09] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz: because you have a dns re-direction app running?
[01:09] <BryanRuiz> ah.. did netbeans screw up my system
[01:10] <_pg_> san1
[01:10] <_pg_> fkc
[01:10] <ratcheer> TeamRocket1233c: I use OpeBox with lxdm
[01:10] <_pg_> so I changed the password for the user account on my ubuntu machine, and now I cant ssh into it. what have I done?
[01:11] <TeamRocket1233c> ratcheer: And the WM's and DE's that I think would make great replacements for GNOME for the distros and OSes still on GNOME 2 are Openbox, Fluxbox, LXDE, and Xfce.
[01:11] <_pg_> there was no restart after I changed it either. so I think i broke something. how can I fix this?
[01:12] <Guest93206> hi
[01:12] <ratcheer> TeamRocket1233c: Don't forget Enlightenment
[01:12]  * TeamRocket1233c would honestly like to see OpenIndiana, GhostBSD, Debian, RHEL, CentOS, Scientific, or Solaris with Fluxbox or Openbox as the standard desktop.
[01:12]  * TeamRocket1233c Although Crunchbang technically IS Debian with Openbox as the standard desktop...
[01:13]  * _pg_ loves #! :P
[01:13] <TeamRocket1233c> _pg_: #!'s my fave distro! :)
[01:13] <IWantFroyo> TeamRocket1233c You sir are a scholar who is awesome. I support #!.
[01:13]  * almoxarife decided that something had to give when every change to a panel required yet another tweak from a ppa, installed plasma-desktop and has never looked back, plasma-desktop has more tweaks avail than there are days in the month
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> _pg_: Fedora and Ubuntu are second and third. No opinion on Tiny Core really.
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> IWantFroyo: I'm running #! on ancient hardware.
[01:15] <_pg_> I couldnt believe how much #! changed between statler and *updated statler
[01:15] <TeamRocket1233c> IWantFroyo: And intend to put Tiny Core on a PC that's a tad newer, but has less RAM.
[01:15] <IWantFroyo> _pg_ it didn't seem to change much to me. Just newer browser/switch to firefox, and dock at top.
[01:15] <BryanRuiz> just resarted almoxarife to make sure i have nothing running, but still anything at CLI is redirecting to localhost:8888
[01:15] <BryanRuiz> any idea whats goin on?
[01:16] <TeamRocket1233c> IWantFroyo: My Crunchbang system: PII~266 with a12 megs of RAM. The Tiny Core target system: Celeron~433 with 63 megs of RAM.
[01:16] <TeamRocket1233c> IWantFroyo: *128 megs*
[01:16] <_pg_> IWantFroyo: new login manager, geany, my favorite theme gone
[01:16] <_pg_> lol
[01:16] <CharminTheMoose> I'm trying to removve /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/framebuffer and plymouth scripts, but they keep on getting created everytime I run update-initramfs. How do I stop this from happening?
[01:17] <_pg_> so does anyone know how to fix what ive done? changed user/admin password and now cant login remotely over vnc or ssh :/
[01:17] <IWantFroyo> _pg_ I did like that theme. Switched to carbon, though.
[01:18] <_pg_> IWantFroyo: carbon huh? ill have to check that out.
[01:18] <Ben64> _pg_: this might be a silly question, but did you type in the new password to login to ssh
[01:18] <IWantFroyo> _pg_, there are some pretty awesome themes bundled.
[01:18] <IWantFroyo> _pg_ I missed the old theme at first, but after checking the others out I never went back.
[01:19] <_pg_> Ben64: yes lol but does changing the password via the settings panel update the ssh and vnc pass
[01:19] <TeamRocket1233c> _pg_: So what's your fave distros?
[01:19] <_pg_> or are they used to generate the keys that no longer match?
[01:19] <Ben64> i don't use the settings panel, but ssh by default uses the user's password
[01:20] <_pg_> Ben64: i havent restarted since,
[01:20] <Ben64> doesn't matter
[01:20] <_pg_> Ben64: ssh service hasnt been restarted, so how can it know about the new pass?
[01:20] <Ben64> this isn't windows, you don't need to restart for simple things like changing a password
[01:20] <_pg_> Ben64:  and why would that break regular vnc? which is a different pass altogether?
[01:21] <Ben64> depends on vnc server, some might use the user's password as well
[01:21] <n00b4lyfe> Ben64: lol.
[01:21] <_pg_> TeamRocket1233c: #!, xubuntu, mostly stick to those
[01:21] <_pg_> Ben64: vino-server
[01:21] <Fernandos> hi
[01:21] <_pg_> TeamRocket1233c: i love how well #! runs on anything.
[01:21] <TeamRocket1233c> _pg_: : Cool! Mine are #!, Fedora, Ubuntu, and possibly Tiny Core.
[01:22] <Fernandos> where is the ubuntu package maintainer/creator/learning channel?
[01:22] <chaos9> Join #chaos9
[01:22] <_pg_> TeamRocket1233c: i could never get into fedora. rpms... meh
[01:22] <chaos9> Opositor
[01:22] <_pg_> apt is just so sexy
[01:22] <TeamRocket1233c> _pg_ What about BSD, OpenIndiana, OpenSolaris, etc?
[01:22] <Oer> lets stay ontopic, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:23] <_pg_> oh yeah so back to my unreachable server. cry
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> Oer: Sorry.
[01:23] <chaos9> Ops,  sorry!
[01:23] <Ben64> did you close the ssh session
[01:23] <Fernandos> #ubuntu-dev???
[01:24] <_pg_> Ben64: i cant ssh in. i get Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[01:24] <Ben64> that didn't answer the question
[01:24] <_pg_> i didnt *have* a session
[01:24] <_pg_> i couldnt get past the auth
[01:25] <Ben64> how did you change the password then
[01:25] <_pg_> i was sitting at it
[01:25] <Ben64> then walk over there and fix it :|
[01:26] <_pg_> lol obviously not there anymore. when i can get beck to it, do I just changeit back to what it was?
[01:26] <Ben64> you must have done something besides change the password
[01:27] <Oer> _pg_, does the old password still work ?
[01:27] <_pg_> no. i tried that
[01:27] <AcidRain> lol. changed password but didnt hit accept ;p
[01:27] <_pg_> Ben64: i really dont think i did.
[01:27] <AcidRain> hax
[01:28] <AcidRain> _pg_: i found a exploit in ssh. you want me to tell you password of your system?
[01:28] <_pg_> ....
[01:28] <AcidRain> =)
[01:28] <AcidRain> only with your permission of course
[01:28]  * _pg_ thinks "its a trap"
[01:29] <AcidRain> i wont lie, it is a trap
[01:29] <_pg_> akbar was right
[01:29] <AcidRain> a trap with hax!
[01:29] <gurgalof> :P
[01:29] <_pg_> AcidRain: just tell me the exploit and ill check it myself lol
[01:29] <Ben64> there isn't oen
[01:29] <Ben64> one*
[01:30]  * _pg_ knew it
[01:30] <Ben64> try logging in from another system
[01:30] <_pg_> ive tried from 2
[01:30] <gurgalof> could be 0-day exploit, but higly unlikely
[01:30] <_pg_> wait
[01:30] <_pg_> there was one thing
[01:30] <Ben64> also, what kind of 'server' do you have that you can sit at, but not all the time?
[01:31] <_pg_> this machine said ***WHOA WHOA WHOA RSA KEY CHANGED BRO*** and it had, cause i had uninstalled and reinstalled open-ssh server since because i couldnt get into it awhile ago. but i tested it earlier today and it was working
[01:32] <_pg_> so i deleted the known hosts file here
[01:32] <_pg_> so it would recreate it fresh right?
[01:32] <_pg_> Ben64: just my home machine thats on all the time
[01:33] <Ben64> then walk to it :|
[01:33] <_pg_> oh wait, except Im not there lol
[01:33] <_pg_> and even if I were i wouldnt know how to fix it
[01:33] <TeamRocket1233c> Any way for GRUB to notice a Linux install on another drive?
[01:33] <Ben64> the opposite of what you did to break it
[01:33] <gurgalof> _pg_, why not at home?
[01:33] <Ben64> changing passwords doesn't break ssh or vnc
[01:34] <_pg_> Ben64: it seems to have lol
[01:34] <_pg_> gurgalof: cause im just not at home right now
[01:34] <Ben64> well it doesn't
[01:34] <TeamRocket1233c> Because I tried to dual-boot #! and TC earlier, with #! on my pre-existing 10-gig hard drive and TC on my spare 8-gig drive, and GRUB didn't recognize the TC drive.
[01:35] <Ben64> what is #!
[01:35] <_pg_> Ben64: are there common things that do break ssh and vnc?
[01:35] <Ben64> and who decided to name something so terribly
[01:35] <ssfdre38> how can i get the php5 ftp from apt
[01:35] <TeamRocket1233c> Ben64: #!: Crunchbang. TC: Tiny Core.
[01:35] <gurgalof> _pg_, oh right :P I should sleep right now, its late...
[01:35] <ssfdre38> just so you know apt-get install php5-ftp is not working
[01:35] <_pg_> does this error message "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)." help at all? Ben64
[01:37] <gurgalof> _pg_, for a moment i thougt why are someone not at home at night, but doesnt mean there is night everywhere
[01:37] <_pg_> gurgalof: its night here. but im still not at home
[01:37] <Ben64> _pg_: something wrong with your public key, probably
[01:37] <Ben64> try getting rid of it and using password only
[01:38] <gurgalof> night everyone!
[01:38] <_pg_> Ben64: if i just apt-get autoremove open-ssh server and reinstall it, is that the easiest way?
[01:38] <_pg_> thats what i did last time I broke it
[01:39] <Ben64> 1. stop breaking it
[01:39] <Ben64> 2. learn how to fix mistakes instead of wiping
[01:39] <TeamRocket1233c> Welp, I'ma go now, I'll be back whenever. See 'ya guys! :) -wave-
[01:40]  * _pg_ cries
[01:41] <Ben64> reinstalling ssh probably started the problem you're having now
[01:41] <zoaruki> hi people, i've just installed ubuntu. could you tell me about a good source code editor?
[01:41] <zoaruki> preferably one that supports various languages
[01:42] <_pg_> zoaruki: sublime text 2, geany, netbeans
[01:42] <BryanRuiz> cant curl, cant wget, can ping, can nslookup, whats going on?  everything keeps redirecting to localhost:8888
[01:42] <zoaruki> _pg_: ok, thank you
[01:43] <ssfdre38> BryanRuiz, did you check your hosts file to see what is set up?
[01:43] <BryanRuiz> ssfdre38: i did check my hosts file, but i didnt see anything unusual
[01:43] <_pg_> zoaruki: what are you going to be doing?
[01:43] <BryanRuiz> ill try again though
[01:44] <zoaruki> _pg_: i'm aiming to learn C++, as i already know python :P
[01:45] <BryanRuiz> nope ssfdre38
[01:46] <BryanRuiz> im willing to send someone $50 bucks if they can help me with this
[01:46] <gurgalof> zoaruki, emacs....
[01:46] <_pg_> zoaruki: good luck with that! check out sublime text 2. so nice
[01:46] <sambagirl> how can i burn an extra 15 mb to a cdrom that is 700mb?
[01:46] <_pg_> thanks for the help Ben64. im going to go home now.
[01:46] <_pg_> peace
[01:47] <sambagirl> the iso is exactly 715mb
[01:49] <starn> hey i had an kinda crazy idea and wonder if it's possible and if so how to do it.. but ubuntu in 3D my video card supports the old style red and blue or other coloured glasses and i'm now wondering if ubuntu can do this
[01:50] <gurgalof> sambagirl, maybe this will work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1531228
[01:50] <sambagirl> is there an alernative to brasero?
[01:50] <sambagirl> thanks gurgalof?
[01:51] <Ben64> you probably can't burn 715MB to a cd safely
[01:51] <sambagirl> yes overburn doesnt work in brasareo
[01:52] <gurgalof> overburn is not safe anyway +15MB extra is a bit on the edge
[01:52] <sambagirl> ben64 the provelm is that the server doesnt read dvd but the drive is a cd/dvd and it reports it in bios but it wont read a dvd. i dont understand that to good
[01:52] <philllllijw> Can anyone suggest a good way to set up my partitions (and fs types) for an 80gb drive with 1GB ram?
[01:52] <neonkid> Do any of you know how to make a RumblePad 2 work with VBA?
[01:54] <pr0metheu5> Is anyone else having problems transmitting audio through hdmi?
[01:55] <neonkid> Make sure that it's set as the output in the sound settings pr0m
[01:56] <Jon--> Got my monitor replaced on my laptop. Get "cannot load screen config" on boot. It then loads and works fine but slows down my bootup and is annoying. How can I fix this? Ubuntu 11.10
[01:56] <pr0metheu5> neonkid, I don't even see it as an option in the sound settings.
[01:57] <neonkid> pr0m try restarting, and are you sure it's supposed to carry sound?
[01:57] <pr0metheu5> neonkid, i've restarted several times, and what do you mean carry sound?
[01:58] <pr0metheu5> it works fine under my windows installation
[01:58] <pr0metheu5> it wasn't even an issue until 11.10
[01:58] <neonkid> Have you tried googleing it?
[01:58] <pr0metheu5> yes, haven't been able to find a solution anywhere
[01:59] <neonkid> That sucks, sorry I'm stumped
[01:59] <pr0metheu5> could it be secluded to xubuntu?
[01:59] <pr0metheu5> you think it might start working again under ubuntu?
[02:00] <gantry> Has anyone tried to install cinnamon 1.4 from the repository?
[02:01] <gantry> I get his error when I try to add the repository http://pastebin.com/Nkg18DnE
[02:02] <pr0metheu5> I think it might be because xubuntu is not recognizing my nvidia as a sound card
[02:02] <pr0metheu5> I have nvidia optimus on my laptop, which really sucks
[02:02] <pr0metheu5> does anyone have any experience with nvidia optimus and drivers for it under ubuntu?
[02:02] <gurgalof> pr0metheu5, which laptop?
[02:03] <pr0metheu5> Samsung RC420
[02:03] <pr0metheu5> made a horrible decision to get a samsung
[02:03] <pr0metheu5> had a dell xps before, linux was a dream to run on it
[02:03] <pr0metheu5> that sentence made no sense, I mean it ran ubuntu perfectly
[02:05] <pr0metheu5> nvidia optimus? nobody?
[02:05] <redtornado> greetings
[02:05] <gurgalof> pr0metheu5, my laptop has optimus, but hdmi audio works out of the box
[02:05] <pr0metheu5> gurgalof did you install drivers for it?
[02:06] <gurgalof> pr0metheu5, nope
[02:06] <pr0metheu5> bumblebee, ironhide, nothing?
[02:06] <pr0metheu5> what distro are you running?
[02:06] <gurgalof> pr0metheu5, only think i have done is acpi_call to turn off powerto the nvidia card
[02:06] <gurgalof> pr0metheu5, running ubuntu 11.10
[02:07] <collinjsimpson> How can I set up shared permissions (bindfs) on directories but maintain a quota on it? Could I mount a filesystem with a fixed size somehow?
[02:07] <Jon--> Got my monitor replaced on my laptop. Get "cannot load screen config" on boot. It then loads and works fine but slows down my bootup and is annoying. How can I fix this? Ubuntu 11.10
[02:08] <redtornado> Im running ubuntu 11.10 on a old pc. I did a fresh install (no other os, just ubuntu) on a 60gig hdd. i just came across a 80gig hdd which ive connected successfully as the slave drive. how do I go about adding this drive to my current ubuntu setup. would like to use it as extra space.
[02:08] <redtornado> ** formatted the drive. it is now ext3 file system
[02:09] <BryanRuiz> so
[02:09] <gurgalof> Jon--, http://alexcovac.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-configure-Xorg-in-Ubuntu , try this!
[02:09] <BryanRuiz> i have a proxy configured on my machine somewhere
[02:09] <BryanRuiz> wget --no-proxy works but wget does not
[02:09] <BryanRuiz> where is this coming from?
[02:11] <gurgalof> Now i really got to go sleeping, 3AM here....
[02:11]  * gurgalof is sleeping
[02:11] <redtornado> or does a new formatted hdd (ext4) just work w/ubuntu when its mounted?
[02:14] <redtornado> Im running ubuntu 11.10 on a old pc. I did a fresh install (no other os, just ubuntu) on a 60gig hdd. i just came across a 80gig hdd which ive connected successfully as the slave drive. how do I go about adding this drive to my current ubuntu setup. would like to use it as extra space. I formatted the drive. it is now ext4 file system. is that all i need to do?
[02:15] <BryanRuiz> i found it!  there is an environment variable set on my machine called: http_proxy=http://localhost:8888/
[02:15] <BryanRuiz> where is this being set??
[02:15] <BryanRuiz> its causing everything from apt-get to wget and curl to break
[02:17] <philllllijw> try /root/.bashrc
[02:18] <redtornado> Im running ubuntu 11.10 on a old pc. I did a fresh install (no other os, just ubuntu) on a 60gig hdd. i just came across a 80gig hdd which ive connected successfully as the slave drive. how do I go about adding this drive to my current ubuntu setup. would like to use it as extra space. I formatted the drive. it is now ext4 file system. is that all i need to do?
[02:18] <redtornado> should io be asking this in another room? sorry to re-send
[02:19] <redtornado> *I
[02:19] <ssfdre38> redtornado, just mount it onto your system
[02:19] <gurgalof> redtornado, that should be all you need to do
[02:19] <GhostConn> dose anyone know anything about plymouth manager?
[02:19] <redtornado> ok, great. as long as its ext4 correct?
[02:20] <ssfdre38> any format that was allowed to you would work
[02:20] <gurgalof> redtornado, it could be other filesystems aswell, but ext4 is fine
[02:21] <atpa8a> hmm
[02:21] <atpa8a> hello
[02:21] <zoaruki> disconnect
[02:21] <zoaruki> lol
[02:21] <redtornado> excellent, thanks. I wasn't sure if i would have a problem dl'ing/installing ubuntu stuff on it.
[02:21] <atpa8a> what's a good MTA to just send everything to MX?..
[02:24] <Wildbat> hmmm, need help on installing sun-java. http://pastebin.com/cvi4Fk1R << done this but can't help. "Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[02:24] <Wildbat> P.S. Ubuntu 10.04
[02:26] <collinjsimpson> How can I partition an unformatted hard drive to store shared directories for users? (bindfs)
[02:26] <gantry> anyone here understand how add-apt-repository works?
[02:30] <sambagirl> http://pastebin.com/h8efNuuz every laptop i have with ubuntu is haveing this error....i have a new one coming but not till friday but i hate to rebuild something. is there a simple solution to resolve these errors? they are all the same...
[02:30] <sambagirl> i cant install anything on any of the laptops
[02:31] <sambagirl> it had to do with the upgrade
[02:31] <sambagirl> they all failed i think.
[02:33] <Arcchy> I have a small issue, I just installed ubuntu *kinda migrating to windows*, I plugged in my MP3 Player and yet I see no music files on my device
[02:33] <axisys> i don't get the dash .. here is the pastebin of .xsession-errros http://paste.ubuntu.com/894587/
[02:34] <Arcchy> migrating from windows* sorry
[02:34] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   it sees the device but not the files?
[02:34] <axisys> is there a way to fix it short from reboot? ctl+alt+del kills the session and I relogin .. still no dash.. tried few times
[02:34] <Arcchy> CFHowlett yup
[02:34] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   what device?
[02:35] <Arcchy> It's a sansa 2gb device CFHowlett
[02:36] <sambagirl> blah
[02:36] <zoaruki> this should be pretty obvious but i cant get it working and it's starting to annoy me.
[02:36] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287860
[02:36] <zoaruki> when you introduce the password for "su root" or "sudo" what should you do to indicate the shell you have finished writting?
[02:37] <tom_> hello. where do I ask a question about sound drivers?
[02:37] <zoaruki> enter doesn't seem to work lol
[02:37] <ouyes> is there any lan file transfer tool, which can transfer files between two machines running ubuntu via the wired network cable, so it is very fast
[02:37] <rewire> ouyes: you could use FTP
[02:37] <philllllijw> ouyes, just set up static IPs on each and they should just act like 2 computers on a network
[02:38] <axisys> here is my desktop with no dash imgur.com/7sv3j
[02:38] <Arcchy> CFHowlett, I don't wish to use it with rythembox, just nautilus which is what I'm having issue with.
[02:38] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   noted ... looking in forums
[02:39] <Arcchy> thank you.
[02:39] <GhostConn> ?
[02:40] <tom_> looking for a sound driver for SRS pc sound on an msi A6500 notebook
[02:42] <GhostConn> dose anyone know anything about plymouth manager?
[02:42] <GhostConn> i keep getting black boot screens its so annoing
[02:42] <GhostConn> only with linux lol
[02:43] <Arcchy> GhostConn, just a black screen?.. what's wrong with that some distros dont even have boot screens to begin with
[02:44] <GhostConn> its only bugging me because i have sat hear for the past 3 days trying to find the cause lol no matter what .plymouth splash screen i install it will only show up when i shutdown
[02:44] <GhostConn> and during boot up i get a back screen until login
[02:48] <Arcchy> CFHowlett any luck? :)
[02:49] <tom_> Arcchy, how do you get someones attention?
[02:50] <Arcchy> tom_ What do you mean?
[02:50] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   one would think but sadly no.  Seems many people had problems with sansa but few solutions are provided.  Pleased ask the channel every 20 minutes or so
[02:50] <Arcchy> Ah, okay thank you CFHowlett
[02:51] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   does your player show up as a mass storage device?
[02:51] <GhostConn> any help arcchy?
[02:51] <GhostConn> or someone
[02:52] <Arcchy> No CFHowlett, it shows up as 2.0 GB Filesystem
[02:52] <Arcchy> GhostConn, no I typically try to stay away from messing with boot files sorry.
[02:52] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   that's not right unless there's a filesystem on it ...
[02:52] <GhostConn> no worries thank tho
[02:52] <zoaruki> i fixed my problem by using "sudo" instead of "su root". i dont understand yet why the last command doesn't recognize my pass
[02:53] <quiescens> su requires the password of the user you are changing to
[02:53] <tom_> Arcchy, I am used to 10.*.*LTS, but my newer notebook is less than supported by it. I get better operation from 11.40 but I don't know my way around.
[02:53] <mustermark> Argh, i need help. Wubi is on the fritz and i'm in this IRC on irrsi from tt1
[02:54] <mustermark> I really don't feel like reinstalling for the third time either.
[02:54] <GhostConn> can you reccomend a music player better then banshee,audacious,rhythmbox,songbird,gnome player ect... what im really after is an itunes alternative lol. I absolutely HATE itunes weird i know ... the only thing i do like about it is the cover flow
[02:54] <zoaruki> quiescens, but there is only one user in the system
[02:54] <bazhang> mustermark, whats the exact issue
[02:54] <bazhang> !players > GhostConn
[02:54] <mustermark> the thing works fine for about too boots and then refuses to start a graphical interface
[02:54] <bazhang> GhostConn, no polling here please
[02:54] <mustermark> using wubi ubuntu 11.10
[02:55] <bazhang> mustermark, yes, you said that. error messages would make troubleshooting possible
[02:55] <tom_> i mean 10.40
[02:55] <haz3lnut> GhostConn: http://getnightingale.com/
[02:55] <mustermark> bazhang: there aren't any unless you can point me to a relevant log file. It would show a purple screen, then display a single underscore.
[02:56] <GhostConn> sorry guys and thanks to all for the help :) I really appreciate it
[02:56] <haz3lnut> GhostConn: or the only other not in your list would be amarok
[02:56] <bazhang> mustermark, is it running out of space?
[02:56] <CFHowlett> mustermark wubi is for *testing out* ubuntu.  It should *not* be considered a long-term installation solution.  So sayeth the developer.  See dual-booting
[02:57] <bazhang> mustermark, check the wubi guide for either moving the wubi install to the hdd, or re-sizing the wubi install
[02:57] <bazhang> !wubi | mustermark please have a read
[02:57] <haz3lnut> GhostConn: it's odd though, because if you didn;t poll hee, I don;t know where you'd poll. there isn;t a #ubunu-poll channel
[02:57] <tom_> what terminal command can I use  to see the sound drivers in Ubuntu10.40?
[02:58] <Arcchy> CFHowlett, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68520060/Screenshot%20at%202012-03-21%2019%3A53%3A14.png, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68520060/Screenshot%20at%202012-03-21%2019%3A53%3A21.png
[02:58] <mustermark> bazhang: is there a way in the terminal to report on hdd space?
[02:58] <GhostConn> like i said im sorry guys honestly I just needed answers lol
[02:58] <GhostConn> I have been looking for this for 3years now
[02:58] <arkaniad> Let me just fire up Firestorm.
[02:58] <haz3lnut> mustermark: df -h
[02:59] <bazhang> haz3lnut, sure there is
[02:59] <bazhang> !poll
[02:59] <bazhang> haz3lnut, ^
[03:00] <mustermark> CFHowlett: I guess I could throw ubuntu onto a disk and install it proper, but my harddrive is a tiny ssd and I like the convenience of knowing I can easily throw ubuntu off if i needed to
[03:00] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   I suspect the proprietary filesystem is mucking up your access to the device.  Fix?  Well, depends.  If you have the original disks on hand and know how to restore the oem filesystem, I'd format teh entire thing as ntfs
[03:00] <mustermark> and i ran the command haz3lnut provided, I still have 3gigs of space
[03:00] <GhostConn> ok upon downloading Nightingale 1.11.0   how do i install a tar.bz2 file? simply extract it and add it to my usr/lib?
[03:00] <CFHowlett> mustermark consider a light weight distro then x/l/ubuntu.  should take much more than 4 gigs fully installed ...
[03:00] <haz3lnut> bazhang: not exactly opinion based, we could have googled for a list.
[03:01] <mustermark> CFHowlett: hah, i guess i could. Is slackware still around?
[03:02] <CFHowlett> mustermark I wouldn't know ..
[03:02] <Arcchy> CFHowlett, Hmm..most of my stuff is from various things over the years, would have to go to a windows machine to back up
[03:02] <Arcchy> CFHowlett, thank you though will try that suggestion
[03:03] <haz3lnut> what if we wanna get ineteractive opinion on most user's favorite irc client or music player?  no help in channel?
[03:03] <CFHowlett> Arcchy   sorry I couldn't direct you to a smoother solution.  Good luck
[03:03] <Arcchy> CFHowlett no problem, have a nice night everyone.
[03:05] <mangdood> I think my trash is corrupted; one of the directories has files that point to unknown inodes; how can I fix this?
[03:06] <tom_> HELP, how do I check [see] the sound driver in terminal?
[03:06] <mustermark> bah, i'll install my good old friend arch linux and see where that takes me. Thanks guys <333
[03:06] <CFHowlett> tom_   find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[03:07] <CFHowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[03:07] <CFHowlett> lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[03:09] <bazhang> haz3lnut, #ubuntu-offtopic for that interactive opinion and chat type discussion. here is technical support
[03:11] <haz3lnut> bazhang: LOL
[03:11] <bazhang> haz3lnut, whats funny?
[03:12] <haz3lnut> bazhang: "technical support"
[03:12] <tom_> what does this tell you?               lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[03:12] <tom_> 00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 1314
[03:12] <tom_> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 109a
[03:12] <tom_> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 41
[03:12] <tom_> 	Memory at feb44000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[03:12] <FloodBot1> tom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <tom_> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[03:12] <tom_> 	Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
[03:13] <CFHowlett> tom_   tells me we need to acquaint you with the custom know as "pasting".  Please read the following ...
[03:13] <CFHowlett> !paste>tom_
[03:14] <tom_> sorry people, newbie
[03:14] <CFHowlett> tom_   also, in answer to your earlier query, HDA Intel is your sound kernel
[03:17] <tom_> do I go to intel for a proper driver. I have no sound.
[03:18] <CFHowlett> tom_   probably not - use the sound trouble shooting link I sent you.  Following the steps should yield a fix.
[03:18] <tom_> thanks.
[03:19] <CFHowlett> tom_   take your time ...
[03:19] <bazhang> tom_, unmute them in alsamixer would be step one
[03:20] <mangdood> So my filesystem isn't corrupt, according to fsck, but I still have files that I can't unlink and don't point to any valid inode. Where should I start?
[03:21] <douglaslucas> how do I open xorg.conf with gksudo ?
[03:22] <soreau> douglaslucas: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:22] <bazhang> douglaslucas, gksudo gedit
[03:22] <douglaslucas> thanks
[03:27] <Loshki> mangdood__: I'd start by backing up anything on that disk that you can't live without....
[03:34] <sanket> hey hi everybody
[03:34] <CFHowlett> sanket   greetings
[03:40] <satyanash> What is the Internic Network ?
[03:48] <zenithzephyr> hihi
[03:48] <Flax_> Is there some sort of program that lets me draw directly onto the screen?
[03:48] <Flax_> Like, an overlay
[03:49] <jadoe> Flax_: there is a compiz plugin for that, I think
[03:49] <addy_> hello all
[03:49] <Flax_> jadoe, Thanks. I'll try looking around for it.
[03:49] <addy_> i m new in ubuntu does any body famielier with it
[03:50] <bazhang> addy_, yes of course
[03:50] <jadoe> Flax_: plugin Annotate in compiz-plugins-extra
[03:50] <bazhang> addy_, better to narrow it down from know anything about ubuntu to something more specific
[03:51] <addy_> bazhang:hello i know last time chat please tell me i m unabel to install software form download package of wine
[03:52] <Flax_> jadoe, Thank you.
[03:52] <bazhang> addy_, what s the error paste.ubuntu.com with the error message and give us the url
[03:53] <addy_> bazhang; i don't have internet conection at my laptop in ubuntu i download this software in other computer and take with help of pendrive and paste it to my ubuntu laptop and i dont know how to install
[03:53] <mangdood__> Flax: It should come with the package by default, last time I checked
[03:54] <reasearcher123> how to install Adobe Flash player downloaded as  .rpm
[03:54] <reasearcher123> !RPM
[03:54] <Flax_> Got it.
[03:54] <addy_> banhang: 1 more thing i my wireless connection is disabel by me by unknow command could u plz tell me command to reabel it
[03:55] <mangdood__> addy_, right click the network manager and reenable networking and wireless
[03:56] <mangdood__> addy_, if you are using a graphical desktop manager
[03:56] <bazhang> !offline | addy_ please read this
[03:57] <addy_> mangdood:actually it not appear when i try enabel networking is shown with RIGHT mark but wireless is know shown it remaint in hidden
[03:58] <addy_> ubottu: actually i don't have internet connection in my laptop so how can i download script
[03:58] <gmachine_24> good evening earthlings. does anyone know how to have today's date added to the name of a tar file being created when backing up a system e.g. backup.date.month.year.tar.gz there is a way to have the date added automatically
[03:58] <mangdood__> addy_, is the computer you are on IRC with the same as the one you want to install packages on?
[03:59] <bazhang> addy_, you have an internet connection with this computer. please read thelinks I gave you first
[03:59] <addy_> bazhang:offline yes i wanna to install commands
[03:59] <bazhang> addy_, did you read all those links?
[03:59] <mangdood__> gmachine_24, you could write a script
[04:00] <gmachine_24> mangdood_, yes, thanks, I know. I have a cron script ready but I can't find the code to enter to add today's date.
[04:00] <addy_> bazhang: which links?
[04:00] <bazhang> !offline | addy_ these links
[04:00] <shaneo> hey guys im getting something really wierd when running apt-add repository --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/
[04:00] <gmachine_24> it's something like %d.%m.%yr
[04:01] <bazhang> shaneo, its add-apt
[04:01] <addy_> bazhang: there is a page open want to which packege u wanna to down load
[04:01] <bazhang> !appppa | shaneo
[04:01] <bazhang> !addppa | shaneo
[04:01] <addy_> bazhang:i m not familier with it
[04:01] <bazhang> addy_, yes, thats why you need to read the link
[04:02] <addy_> bazhang:ok u maen type !offline| in  terminal
[04:02] <sacarlson> gmachine_24: myfilename="$(date +%m%d%y).tar.gz"
[04:02] <bazhang> http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/    <-------- addy_   in firefox
[04:02] <shaneo> bazhang, sorry for the typos but they are not the problem please see pastebin
[04:03] <bazhang> shaneo, gpgerr?
[04:03] <shaneo> no
[04:03] <addy_> bazhang: this page shown APT Chooser
[04:03] <addy_> bazhang: and ask for Which distribution do you have? What architecture is your distribution compiled for? What package do you need to install? What (meta)package do you already have?
[04:03] <bazhang> shaneo, so whats the issue? no longer a ppa there? or what
[04:03] <shaneo> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/
[04:03] <addy_> bazhang:which option i select please tell me
[04:05] <gmachine_24> sacarlson: that's it, thanks.
[04:05] <bazhang> addy_, version number is 11.10? arch = 32 bit or 64 bit package, means package name(s) metapackage(s) ubuntu-desktop for example
[04:06] <addy_> bazhang:it show maverick? i386 and then i select wine a page is open where too much file are there
[04:07] <mangdood__> gmachine_24, sorry, I wasn't aware that you had already written a script and was just looking for the command. I didn't know the command either ]:
[04:07] <addy_> bazhang:The requested URL /ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_1.0.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb was not found on this server. this message appear
[04:08] <zenithzephyr> I can't find gmcs.exe
[04:08] <MestreLion> if I install python3.1 pacjage, how shoul I deal with its co-existance with stock Python 2.6 (using Mavverick here)? I mean... default executable, etc?
[04:08] <zenithzephyr> compiling mono
[04:08] <addy_> bazhang:The requested URL /ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_1.0.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb was not found on this server. this message appear
[04:09] <zenithzephyr> mono die..
[04:09] <addy_> bazhang:what should i do
[04:09] <MestreLion> wow, wine 1.0 ?
[04:09] <shaneo> addy_, get a newer version of wine besides 1.0
[04:09] <shaneo> i believe its a stable 3.0 now
[04:10] <MestreLion> shaneo: 1.3
[04:10] <shaneo> oh lol sorry
[04:10] <MestreLion> actually, 1.3 was just released
[04:10] <MestreLion> 1.4 i mean
[04:10] <addy_> shaneo:actually i m new in linux and wanna to know how to install software offline(download rar file)
[04:10] <MestreLion> now 1.4 is stable, 1.5 is dev, and 1.0 is rather ancient (circa 2008 i guess)
[04:11] <shaneo> addy_, so try the newer version of wine instead of 1.0
[04:11] <Chipzzz> http://www.winehq.org/download
[04:11] <MestreLion> addy_: if you are new to Linux, avoid offline installs at all costs...
[04:11] <MestreLion> addy_: Software Center is your friend
[04:11] <shaneo> ^^ agreed
[04:11] <shaneo> if its there use it
[04:11] <shaneo> until you need to compile something
[04:11] <bazhang> addy_, you dont want to make offline installing the main way to go. thats a very bad idea
[04:12] <MestreLion> addy_: Linux is not like Windows... you don't have to hunt down installs on the wild web... there are package managers for you
[04:12] <zenithzephyr> :help
[04:12] <bazhang> zenithzephyr, with what
[04:12] <zenithzephyr> compilng mono
[04:12] <gmachine_24> mangdood_, no problem. I appreciate the helpful attitude. :)
[04:12] <shaneo> can someone please look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/
[04:12] <zenithzephyr> I'm cross-compiling mono for ARM
[04:12] <MestreLion> addy_: and I pretty doubt any worthy linux software would be in a .rar file
[04:12] <bazhang> !build-essential | zenithzephyr
[04:13] <bazhang> zenithzephyr, so whats the exact question
[04:13] <zenithzephyr> !build-essential
[04:13] <shaneo> ssl and ca errors when adding ppas ive seen alot of errors but thats never been one of them
[04:13] <bazhang> zenithzephyr, you install build-essential
[04:13] <MestreLion> if I install python3.1 package, how should I deal with its co-existance with stock Python 2.6 (using Maverick here)? I mean... default executable, etc?
[04:13] <addy_> mestrelion:bazhang:ok i try to take software online and 1 more thing please tell me i by fault disabel wireless connection by command tell me how to enabel it
[04:13] <zenithzephyr> i can't find gmcs.exe file.
[04:13] <bazhang> !maverick
[04:14] <zenithzephyr> yes i install it.
[04:14] <shaneo> addy_, ifconfig <interface> up
[04:14] <shaneo> addy_, so if its wifi ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:14] <MestreLion> addy_: depends on how you disabled it... is the wireless connection icon still available in panel? Use it. If not, maybe rebooting will do the trick... unless you un-installed or really remored the panel applet
[04:15] <addy_> shaneo: actually it show your wireless connection is disabel by hardware
[04:16] <shaneo> addy_, did you install additional drivers for your wifi
[04:16] <addy_> mestrelion:i try too many time reboot it but still disabel i think i make this fault by miss
[04:16] <MestreLion> bazhang: well, the question still holds for natty too... can python 2.6 and 3.1 co-exist? do they automatically set update-alternatives?
[04:16] <MestreLion> addy_: if it is disabled by hardware, well.. maybe you should turn it on pushing a button in your notebook :P
[04:17] <scientes> what package is the gnome system settings
[04:17] <shaneo> addy_, use to have that problem with my hp on ubuntu 10.04 had to reboot into bios and reset all settings to default even though i never messed with the bios before it worked like a charm found the solution on ubuntu forums
[04:17] <addy_> mestrelion:shaneo:no but last week it run very fine and after this i try some command for learn linux and after this it disabel i don;'t remember which command i use
[04:17] <MestreLion> scientes: you can find any package using "apt-file search <your-executable>"
[04:18] <addy_> mestrelion:there is no hardware switch
[04:18] <shaneo> addy_, lol open a terminal and scroll up until you recognize the command
[04:18] <bazhang> addy_, what did you do to change it?
[04:18] <shaneo> than paste it here
[04:18] <MestreLion> scientes: so get the executable of gnome-system-settings , and use that command... you may have to install apt-file, but it's worth t
[04:18] <Chipzzz> scientes: gnome-control-center
[04:18] <addy_> shaneo: u may be right i try to reset bios setting
[04:18] <scientes> MestreLion, i actually use dpkg -S
[04:19] <MestreLion> scientes: it works too, but only for installed packages i think
[04:19] <shaneo> addy_, ok let me know
[04:19] <addy_> bazhang"shaneo"; i don't remember command i just guess it may be disabel by command i m not sure
[04:19] <AcidRain> how do i find the path of my php? its not in /usr/bin/php5
[04:19] <scientes> MestreLion, yes only installed packages, but it doesn't need yet another space-inducing databse like apt-file
[04:19] <bazhang> addy_, disable what?
[04:19] <shaneo> addy_, scrollback in terminal is your freind
[04:19] <AcidRain> trying to run php as cronjob and cant find it :/
[04:19] <shaneo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/
[04:20] <addy_> bazhang"shaneo:if their is any command regearding abel it then tell m e
[04:20] <MestreLion> scientes: no extra database... all apt commands uses the same database as dpkg
[04:20] <noneio_> where do i place .vim plugin files?
[04:20] <sacarlson> addy_: rfkill ?   http://www.digimantra.com/linux/rfkill-enabledisable-wireless-linux-laptop/
[04:20] <MestreLion> scientes: the difference is that some apt commands look in the repos too
[04:20] <bazhang> addy_, you need to tell us what you disabled, and what command you used
[04:21] <AcidRain> anyone?
[04:21] <shaneo> AcidRain, whereis php in terminal
[04:21] <shaneo> or find php
[04:21] <Chipzzz> AcidRain: try "which php"
[04:21] <MestreLion> can python 2.6 and 3.1 co-exist if installed from repos? do they automatically set update-alternatives? how should i deal with them?
[04:22] <addy_> shaneo :bazhang: last week i try to learn linux and try some too many command from different online book then later i found my wireless is disabel i dont't remember commad their 1000 of commmand i used later for leanr linux
[04:22] <MestreLion> Chipzzz: avoid which... type is much better, and it's a builtin
[04:22] <bazhang> addy_, which tutorials, please give us a link
[04:22] <shaneo> addy_, you should be learning on a vm not your main pc
[04:22] <addy_> sacarlson:"rfkill what happen by this command
[04:22] <mangdood__> MestreLion, I have python 2.6 and 3.1
[04:22] <Chipzzz> MestreLion: thanks for that :)
[04:23] <mangdood__> MestreLion, without any problems, I think
[04:23] <MestreLion> Chipzzz: type also deals with functions, alias, path , etc... waaaay better :D
[04:23] <shaneo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/894651/
[04:23] <mintman> addy_: use command line fu for most commands to learn or just use and watch what happens...
[04:23] <addy_> shaneo: actuall i only install ubuntu 11 it i install window then might be i m not abel to learn linux any more
[04:23] <MestreLion> mangdood__: so, how do you set the "default" python?
[04:23] <AcidRain> i still cant find where php is :/
[04:23] <bazhang> addy_, if you are just making random commands and changing things from online tutorials, there's no telling what harm you have done to your system, and no way for us to know what you have done
[04:23] <shaneo> addy_, thats what VM's are for you run both
[04:23] <mangdood__> MestreLion, I think it asked me when installing
[04:24] <shaneo> without affecting the other
[04:24] <MestreLion> mangdood__: humm, nice :D do you know if it uses the update-alternatives system?
[04:24] <addy_> shaneo:tell me abt VM where to download
[04:24] <MestreLion> addy_: install VirtualBox
[04:24] <shaneo> addy_, install virtualbox from software center
[04:24] <shaneo> than
[04:24] <shaneo> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtual+machines
[04:25] <mangdood__> MestreLion, I don't even know what that is :X But you could really just link /usr/bin/python to the binary you want
[04:25] <bazhang> shaneo, dont use that here. ever.
[04:25] <mangdood__> MestreLion, if that isn't bad administrative practivse
[04:25] <shaneo> bazhang, sorry
[04:25] <MestreLion> addy_: and avoid running "1000s of commands from random tutorials ad blogs".. it is impossible to help you if something goes wrong
[04:26] <bazhang> addy_, at this point back up what you have and reinstall is the safest course of action.
[04:26] <MestreLion> mangdood__: it is :P... actually, that's precisely what whe alternatives system is for... could you please check if your /usr/bin/python is already a symlink, and where it points to?
[04:26] <bazhang> ah he quit
[04:27] <AcidRain> ok weird, i do whereis php and it just says php:
[04:27] <AcidRain> is there a package that i dont have installed?
[04:27] <MestreLion> AcidRain: use type php
[04:27] <mangdood__> MestreLion, Mine points to 2.7
[04:27] <MestreLion> mangdood__: directly?
[04:28] <JelloPop> MestreLion: I dont get were any of u are going there online tutiroals .. usaully they explain what is going on ... No for random code this is not helpfull.. I learn form tutorials ... and commandlinefu.com tells u what the code is for...
[04:28] <mangdood__> MestreLion, it points to python2.7 in the same folder
[04:28] <AcidRain> MestreLion: type php says no bash file found
[04:28] <mangdood__> MestreLion, so I didn't set up that symlink XD, that's for sure
[04:28] <Ben64> AcidRain: type "php"
[04:29] <heatxsink> hi, i've configured an eth1 with a static ip but upon reboot the interface isn't coming up i have to manually dhclient eth1 which is really weird cause it's a static ip not dhcp!
[04:29] <AcidRain> Ben64: same output, no bash file found
[04:29] <AcidRain> i really think im missing something here
[04:29] <Ben64> you're typing that error incorrectly
[04:29] <AcidRain> yes i am
[04:29] <Ben64> and you don't have php
[04:29] <AcidRain> if i dont have php, then how do i have a website with php files?
[04:30] <Ben64> bash: php: No such file or directory
[04:30] <Ben64> is it like that?
[04:30] <AcidRain> Ben64: yes sir
[04:30] <StepNjump> I would like to install spark messenger. It comes in tar.gz file... Anybody familiar with it?
[04:30] <Ben64> that is much different from "no bash file found"
[04:30] <mangdood__> AcidRain, your website can have php, it just won't RUN php
[04:30] <AcidRain> mangdood__: my website runs php fine
[04:30] <AcidRain> yet php seems to not be installed?...
[04:30] <MestreLion> JelloPop: I have nothing against online tutorials, but: A) most people run the comands blindly without understanding them first, B) some of them may not apply to your system (be outdated, etc), C) I've seen LOTS or poorly written scripts out there
[04:30] <Ben64> your website isn't your computer
[04:30] <MestreLion> AcidRain: it means you don't have php installed
[04:31] <sacarlson> AcidRain: I see this with php not installed: The program 'php' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:31] <sacarlson> sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[04:31] <AcidRain> MestreLion: ... but i dont understand how i can execute php files
[04:31] <Ben64> you can't until you install php
[04:31] <MestreLion> mangdood__: python 2.7 did... are you sure you have python 3.1 installed too? how do you use it?
[04:31] <Chipzzz> AcidRain: did you install zend framework & zend debugger?
[04:31] <AcidRain> Ben64: wtdf
[04:31] <AcidRain> im telling you it can
[04:31] <AcidRain> im doing it right now
[04:31] <mangdood__> MestreLion, *quick off-topic* It's clear that we don't have enough education in tech. Otherwise we wouldn't have these makeshift solutions all over the web and IRC
[04:31] <Ben64> going to a website != running php
[04:32] <mangdood__> MestreLion, I would use python3
[04:32] <AcidRain> http://acidshower.com <-- this site is on my box, also runs php. phpinfo(); tells me alot
[04:32] <AcidRain> http://acidshower.com/info.php
[04:33] <wylde> AcidRain: errr, you know that's a security risk having phpinfo() open to the net right?
[04:33] <Ben64> AcidRain: then you have something broken
[04:33] <gantry> Is there anyone here that understands how add-apt-repository works?
[04:33] <Chipzzz> AcidRain: your zend framework installed its own php
[04:33] <Ben64> !anyone | gantry
[04:33] <MestreLion> mangdood__: so python3 did not set alternatives... well, but it at least didn't mess with default settings for 2.7, that's a relief... thanks a lot mangdood__
[04:33] <AcidRain> wylde: i know. but i had to show you. cause u didnt believe me
[04:34] <AcidRain> Chipzzz: i believe you are right about that. installing php-cli worked.
[04:34] <MestreLion> sure gantry ... ask ahead
[04:34] <wylde> AcidRain: I didn't believe you? That's the first I've said anything...
[04:34] <gantry> Ben64, what config/data files does add-apt-repository require in order to run correctly?  I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/Nkg18DnE
[04:34] <mangdood__> MestreLion, could you link me to something on this alternatives thing? I'm starting to be curious about it
[04:34] <gantry> It says it can't find a template
[04:34] <AcidRain> well when i said "u" i meant #ubuntu supporters to my question
[04:34] <gantry> I have no idea what template it is talking about
[04:34] <AcidRain> thanks though guys! got it working.
[04:34] <MestreLion> mangdood__: man update-alternatives
[04:35] <AcidRain> <3 @ ubuntu
[04:35] <Ben64> gantry: are you on linux mint
[04:35] <gantry> No, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10
[04:35] <gantry> but for some reason my /etc/lsb-release file was set up to be LinuxMint
[04:35] <gantry> so I changed it for Ubuntu
[04:35] <MestreLion> mangdood__: it's a very ancient, but still very useful, system for setting alternatives to commands.... so you can configure which command would run if you just simply type python
[04:36] <gantry> that is the only file that I know that it uses
[04:36] <MestreLion> mangdood__: it sets a "net" of symlinks and manage them for you...
[04:36] <GhostConn> im cannot change the volume in gmusicbrowser ? the icon is missing i have to use system volume
[04:36] <gantry> I am trying to install Cinnamon 1.4 which is a Linux Mint project
[04:36] <MestreLion> mangdood__: you can choose your default java, web-browser, python, editor, whatever, in this way
[04:36] <Ben64> gantry: well why was lsb-release saying mint
[04:37] <gantry> I don't know
[04:37] <Ben64> i'll go ahead and say that's the problem
[04:37] <gantry> ben64, what is the problem?
[04:37] <Ben64> that it said mint
[04:38] <gantry> If the problem is lsb-release was incorrect, it is now correct
[04:38] <MestreLion> gantry: I'm a Mint user too... but apt-add-repository works fine even with lsb-release set to mint
[04:38] <Ben64> whatever happened to change that initially probably caused much more problems
[04:38] <gantry> so there shouldn't be a problem unless there are other files that need to be corrected
[04:38] <gantry> the question is, what are the other files that add-apt-repository uses?
[04:38] <MestreLion> gantry: the problem is not lsb-release... Mint patches apt to cope with that...
[04:38] <Ben64> what is the output of "uname -a"
[04:39] <gantry> Linux denali 3.0.0-16-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:39] <gantry> I'm not using Mint
[04:39] <gantry> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10
[04:39] <MestreLion> gantry: and Cinnamon changed your lsb_release? that is very, very odd
[04:39] <gantry> I don't know if it did or not
[04:39] <gantry> I don't know how it got like that
[04:40] <gantry> it is just something that I noticed
[04:40] <gantry> did you see the error in pastebin?
[04:40] <gantry> what template is it looking for?
[04:40] <MestreLion> gantry: yes...
[04:41] <Ben64> its probably due to your lsb-release and what else was changed at the same time
[04:41] <MestreLion> gantry: and normally you should have no problems, either with Mint or Ubuntu
[04:41] <gantry> and when things aren't normal?
[04:42] <gantry> does the error mean anything to you?
[04:42] <Ben64> you'll need to undo whatever happened to change lsb-release or ... reinstall
[04:42] <gantry> reinstall what?
[04:42] <Ben64> ubuntu
[04:42] <gantry> I have to reinstall the entire OS!
[04:42] <MestreLion> gantry: wait... you were *trying* to istall Cinnamon
[04:42] <gantry> way too invasive
[04:42] <bazhang> gantry, you are using mint?
[04:42] <gantry> yes, I'm trying to install cinnamon
[04:43] <gantry> I installed Cinnamon 1.2 a while ago
[04:43] <MestreLion> gantry: but it didn't succeded... so it's not Cinnamon's fault...
[04:43] <bazhang> !info cinnamon
[04:43] <MestreLion> oh
[04:43] <gantry> now when I go to install Cinnamon 1.4, I can't even add the repo
[04:43] <Ben64> how did you install 1.2
[04:43] <bazhang> gantry, which repo is that
[04:43] <NoNMaDDeN> hello ubuntu
[04:44] <gantry> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-cinnamon-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html  this is how I installed Cinnamon 1.2
[04:44] <gantry> I added the repo then installed it
[04:44] <bazhang> gantry, so contact the PPA maintainer
[04:44] <gantry> now I'm wanting to install Cinnamon 1.4
[04:44] <gantry> of the repo?
[04:44] <gantry> I can't add any repo anymore
[04:44] <bazhang> gantry, yep. PPA are not supported here
[04:45] <gantry> not a Cinnamon repo or anything else
[04:45] <MestreLion> gantry: that's 2 different PPAs for cinammon
[04:45] <bazhang> gantry, whats the error?
[04:45] <gantry> this is an add-apt-repository error
[04:45] <bazhang> gantry, whats the exact error
[04:45] <Ben64> bazhang: aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template
[04:45] <gantry> http://pastebin.com/Nkg18DnE   This is the error that I get
[04:45] <gantry> bazhang, that is exactly it
[04:45] <Ben64> he also said /etc/lsb-release had info pertaining to linux mint
[04:45] <bazhang> gantry, so they dont have your arch?
[04:46] <gantry> my arch?
[04:46] <bazhang> 32bit/64bit
[04:46] <gantry> I don't know what my arch is
[04:46] <gantry> yes
[04:46] <gantry> Linux denali 3.0.0-16-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:46] <MestreLion> gantry: you installed Cinnamon 1.2 using a non-official PPA...
[04:46] <gantry> MestreLion, yes
[04:47] <bazhang> gantry, does that ppa offer a 64bit or multiarch version?
[04:47] <gantry> so how does that break add-apt-repository?
[04:47] <MestreLion> gantry: take a look at the debs you installed , see if they mess with lsb
[04:47] <gantry> the ppa that I already installed Cinnamon 1.2 from?
[04:47] <MestreLion> yes
[04:47] <Ben64> bazhang: what about his lsb-release having mint stuff in it?
[04:47] <gantry> how do I see the debs that go installed?
[04:47] <MestreLion> Ben64: I suspect it was the first PPA's fault
[04:47] <bazhang> gantry, from whichever the error is coming from. ppa-purge them and then try again
[04:47] <Ben64> MestreLion: really?
[04:48] <MestreLion> gantry: apt-get download
[04:48] <MestreLion> bazhang: wait
[04:48] <gantry> how do I ppa-purge them?
[04:48] <bazhang> !ppa-purge
[04:48] <bazhang> gantry, ^
[04:48] <MestreLion> bazhang: would be better first if he read the binary package first... we are not sure if the unstiall scripts will leave everything OK
[04:49] <bazhang> MestreLion, good point. but we hardly know if he is running mint/ubuntu/whichh cinnamon is causing the issue, cant hurt to ppa-purge and see which one/if either is causing it
[04:49] <gantry> This just purges the ppa from the repo sources?
[04:49] <gantry> I'm installing ppa-purge
[04:49] <MestreLion> gantry: either check your /var/cache/apt to see if the cinnamon 1.2 deb is there, OR manually download it form PPA website or use apt-get download <package>
[04:50] <MestreLion> gantry: just purging the PPA is not enough (but you wlll eventually do that)
[04:50] <gantry> yes, I see muffin and cinnamon there
[04:50] <bazhang> gantry, the link and bot explanationis quite clear on that account
[04:52] <MestreLion> gantry: extract that .deb somewhere in your home folder, and carefully read the ./debian/rules and all other install and removal scripts.. see if any of them messed with your lsb_release info
[04:52] <MestreLion> gantry: if they did, try to figure (from the scripts) how to fix that. Maybe the postrm script will already do that properly... maybe not.
[04:53] <gantry> ok, I did the ppa-purge
[04:53] <MestreLion> gantry: after you fix the lsb_release info and whatever else that package did, apt-get purge cinnamon1.2 , and then purge the PPA too
[04:53] <gantry> ok, so I did the ppa-purge
[04:53] <gantry> that removes the sources from my repo, right?
[04:54] <MestreLion> gantry: yes
[04:54] <gantry> now I have to actually remove the packages?
[04:54] <MestreLion> gantry: yes, but first, read what i've told you
[04:54] <gantry> ok, then I probably need to go into Xfce or something to remove cinnamon
[04:54] <gantry> I'm using cinnamon now
[04:54] <MestreLion> gantry: if the install script from cinnamon1.2 messed wih your system, i would not trust its uninstall script either
[04:55] <gantry> hang on, I'll be right back
[04:55] <MestreLion> i hope the guy saves chat history, cos I wont repead all that stuff that he seems to have ignored
[04:56] <bazhang> MestreLion, this channel is logged
[04:56] <bazhang> !1984 | MestreLion
[04:56] <MestreLion> humm, nice bazhang
[04:57] <MestreLion> bazhang: side note: i loved the bot trigger for the logging ;)
[04:58] <chroot> hi, I want to know is there any tools that can compare two wav files in ubuntu?
[04:59] <Chipzzz> chroot: diff?
[04:59] <dj_segfault> chroot: Do you want to see if they're identical?  Then the sum command will work.  If you want to visualize them I would recommend avidemux.
[04:59] <sacarlson> chroot: do you expect them to be exactly the same?  md5sum ?
[05:00] <chroot> no, I record two wav files of myself, and I want to know if the two wav files the same,
[05:00] <chroot> dj_segfault, avidemux is a tool?
[05:01] <Chipzzz> chroot: it's very unlikely that they are identical
[05:01] <bazhang> !info avidemux | chroot
[05:01] <chroot> ok, i will check that.
[05:01] <thevinci> I've tried the 'blur winodws' effect in compiz, to get my title bars opaque, but every time it bogs my system WAY down! Does my laptop just not support it or what?
[05:02] <dj_segfault> Avidemux is an audio tool for recording and playing back sound files, but it can also visualize them.  It can also work like a multitrack recorder so you can lay both wav files against each other and visualize them
[05:02] <bazhang> dj_segfault, video editor you mean
[05:02] <chroot> dj_segfault,  ok, i will check it.
[05:02] <chroot> and my hope is better under command line.
[05:02] <dj_segfault> ohm wait, I didn't mean avidemux.  Gimme a sec
[05:03] <bazhang> dj_segfault, perhaps you are thinking of audacity
[05:03] <MestreLion> thevinci: it is a heavy effect, like many in compiz... that's all
[05:03] <dj_segfault> I meant audacity
[05:03] <thevinci> Another thing, my login screen background is not the same as my desktop back ground, and it annoys me slightly, seeing as the two laptops i've installed precise on for friends do it, i don't think it has anything to do with my install disc...
[05:04] <thevinci> ok, I didn't think blur windows would be such a heavy effect. thanks MestreLion
[05:04] <dj_segfault> chroot: Check out audacity
[05:04] <sacarlson> chroot: maybe you looking for voice recognition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[05:05] <MestreLion> thevinci: they indeed do not match... but you can change your background
[05:05] <chroot> yeah, voice recognition, I just want to recognise my voice.
[05:05] <thevinci> How do i change that? When I changed my buddies background, the login background changed to that.
[05:06] <MestreLion> thevinci: are you using precise too?
[05:06] <thevinci> the only way I was able to do it was to replace the default "warty" img with mine titled the same
[05:06] <thevinci> yep
[05:06] <sacarlson> chroot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOf1XQyxyHU
[05:07] <MestreLion> thevinci: I've read about a new feature in precise... that when you select another user (but before you actually login), the login background is changed to match the user's
[05:07] <thevinci> it's just weird to me that mine remains the default purple background login even though i've changed my desktop bg
[05:08] <thevinci> yes, that's what I'm trying to acheive. It works perfectly on the two laptops I installed on recently, but never has on mine since i've been on precise
[05:08] <thevinci> might just be an anomaly
[05:08] <thevinci> *I might
[05:08] <MestreLion> thevinci: maybe you installed precise before them, using an older iso
[05:09] <MestreLion> thevinci: and somehow played with the settings in a way it disabled that
[05:09] <MestreLion> thevinci: have you tried adding another user to see if the background changes?
[05:09] <thevinci> i haven't tried that
[05:09] <afsal> pls help me, where i start editing source code of a project
[05:09] <thevinci> and yes, i installed before them, but i used the same ISO for them as mine
[05:10] <MestreLion> afsal: where? Usually in an Editor, or IDE
[05:10] <bazhang> afsal, editing what
[05:10] <sacarlson> afsal: you want to create a project or join one?  http://github.com
[05:10] <bazhang> afsal, what project
[05:10] <bazhang> afsal, and how does this relate to ubuntu support
[05:11] <wadkar> Hi, I have made some changes to /etc/default/grub (disabled the hidden_timeout and set default_timeout to 3 sec), how do I regenerate grub.cfg ? 'sudo grub-mkconfig'?
[05:11] <MestreLion> afsal: if all you want is to look at the source code of a given package, try apt-get source <package>
[05:11] <MestreLion> wadkar: sudo update-grub
[05:11] <bazhang> wadkar, update-grub
[05:11] <MestreLion> wadkar: avoid invoking grub-mkconfig directly... let update-grub do that for you
[05:11] <afsal> i want create a simple dm. where i start editing lxdm source code after downloading and extracting
[05:12] <GhostConn> how would i update to ubuntu 12:04 without having to install from a cd and loosing all my data
[05:12] <GhostConn> im currently runnign 11:04
[05:12] <MestreLion> afsal: if all you want is to look at the source code of a given package, try apt-get source <package>
[05:12] <GhostConn> amd 9950 cpu
[05:12] <amicrawler> my ipod mounts to desktop  but gpodder will not use it right
[05:12] <wadkar> MestreLion: bazhang : thanks, let me reboot and see if it works(I really dont like the flash and quit/suppressing of boot sequence, I like to see the scrolling text and catch if something is wrong)
[05:13] <bazhang> GhostConn, you first upgrade to 11.10, then continue to 12.04
[05:13] <MestreLion> afsal: but you don't know that already, are you sure you're ready to create a new dm ? :P
[05:13]  * wadkar will reboot
[05:13] <Yadira-007> any mp3 tag tool that actually work ?
[05:13] <Yadira-007> tagtool used too not anymore
[05:13] <zykotick9> Yadira-007: have you tried easytag? it gui.
[05:13] <bazhang> Yadira-007, which have you tried so far, please give us a list so as to avoid repetition
[05:13] <afsal> MestreLopn: ok i tried it. i already downloaded
[05:13] <afsal> MestreLion: ok i tried it. i already downloaded
[05:13] <MestreLion> afsal: good hacking :)
[05:14] <sacarlson> afsal: you could write a bash script to do that
[05:14] <MestreLion> sacarlson: a script to download a source package?
[05:14] <GhostConn> im sorry I meant Im running 11:10.. is there a terminal command ?
[05:14] <bazhang> amicrawler, what about gtkpod
[05:14] <sacarlson> MestreLion: wget to start
[05:14] <GhostConn> and will i loose my apps and settings?
[05:14] <MestreLion> GhostConn: 12.04 install will not change your home folder
[05:14] <afsal> sacarlson: to download sorce code???
[05:14] <bazhang> GhostConn, to upgrade to 12.04? its only beta, and support in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <GhostConn> ok good :)
[05:15] <amicrawler> try it
[05:15] <MestreLion> sacarlson: why? there is apt-get source already... and dget..
[05:15] <bazhang> amicrawler, try what
[05:15] <GhostConn> is it worth the upgrade to beta or should I wait?
[05:15] <Yadira-007> tagtool,puddletag,easeytag,musicbrainz
[05:15] <bazhang> GhostConn, wait
[05:15] <MestreLion> GhostConn: that's your decision
[05:15] <amicrawler> i have no idea where to find were the ipod is mounting at in the fstab
[05:16] <sacarlson> MestreLion: afsal's request was to down load and edit, not just install
[05:16] <GhostConn> ok
[05:16] <Ben64> GhostConn: some applications might not exist in 12.04, or they could be different versions or different features. Also, it is "lose" not "loose"
[05:16] <chroot> well, I have checked out the audacity and speech_recognition in linux,
[05:16] <GhostConn> yea i think ill wait I have taken allot of time to make my system the way it is now lol..
[05:16] <afsal> sacarlson: i already downloaded
[05:16] <triscuit> I tried to install 12.04 the other day but it wouldn't work on my laptop :(
[05:17] <Ben64> and 12.04 has something like 200MB of updates daily
[05:17] <sacarlson> afsal: now maybe look into man patch
[05:17] <chroot> what i want is a tool that can do the recognition work for me, and I don't need to program this tool.
[05:17] <MestreLion> sacarlson: but he wants to "create a simple dm"... there are prolly hundreds of files in LXDE... I guess you cannot script that
[05:17] <GhostConn> dose anyone know how to fix a black splash screen? I have plymouth manager installed but it only works when i shutdown
[05:17] <chroot> and better in command line.
[05:18] <amicrawler> im at 11.10
[05:18] <sacarlson> MestreLion: you just download the code of interest and run the patch on the code, nothing fancy in a simple dm
[05:18] <MestreLion> GhostConn: plymouth has some issues depending on your video driver and/or system... that's why it was disabled by default in 11.04 onwards
[05:19] <GhostConn> lol that sux.. and I'm running a ati 4870 both drivers are active
[05:19] <wadkar> MestreLion: bazhang : I did a reboot and saw the grub menu which booted to default in 3 sec; however all I could see was a blank reddish screen and no booting sequence messages, how do I disable the quiet/splash mode and see everything right from initrd to upping init.d services?
[05:19] <GhostConn> i love to customize things lol
[05:19] <MestreLion> GhostConn: depending on your video card and driver combination, plymouth sometimes loaded too late to be noticed,
[05:20] <MestreLion> GhostConn: sometimes it required special settings in grub.. and sometimes it didn't load at all
[05:20] <bazhang> !nox | wadkar
[05:20] <GhostConn> meh ill just give up on it then.. I put to much time into it already honestly hours
[05:21] <GhostConn> its just one of those things lol... a blank boot screen .....
[05:21] <MestreLion> wadkar: check the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= entry in /etc/default/grub
[05:22] <MestreLion> GhostConn: I share your frustration... I'm using Maverick, and I will really miss my plymouth spash when I upgrade to 12.04
[05:22] <MestreLion> GhostConn: but, frankly, how many times a day you reboot?
[05:22] <GhostConn> # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
[05:22] <GhostConn> # /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[05:22] <GhostConn> # For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
[05:22] <GhostConn> #   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'
[05:22] <GhostConn> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[05:22] <FloodBot1> GhostConn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <GhostConn> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[05:23] <wadkar> bazhang: MestreLion : I do want to boot in X (let ubuntu start gdm and give me the login screen) but before init start gdm, I want to see the output of boot process, will setting 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"' do it?
[05:23] <MestreLion> wadkar: no... just remove the "quiet" that is there
[05:23] <bazhang> wadkar, switch in and out of x? no
[05:24] <wadkar> MestreLion: I removed both quiet and splash from there, but no luck :(
[05:24] <MestreLion> wadkar: have you update-grub after that?
[05:25] <MestreLion> GhostConn: you back?
[05:26] <wadkar> MestreLion: yes, last time when set the timeouts I set 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""' and did update-grub, but as I mentioned, after grub boots the default after 3 sec, I dont see any scrolling text, but a blank reddish(ubuntu'esque) screen and I am presented with the login screen after 5-6 seconds
[05:27] <MestreLion> wadkar: pastebin your /etc/default/grub
[05:27] <wadkar> MestreLion: the blank screen doesn't have a ubuntu logo and "loading dots"
[05:27] <wadkar> MestreLion: http://pastie.org/3645961
[05:28] <yumpinyon> hey all how can i tell if i have java installed, i did 3rd party on install?
[05:28] <MestreLion> an empty GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT should be enough for you to read the booting messages
[05:28] <MestreLion> yumpinyon: java --version
[05:28] <bazhang> yumpinyon, from where?
[05:29] <yumpinyon> Unrecognized option: --version
[05:29] <yumpinyon> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[05:29] <chroot> hi, is there any voice control software in ubuntu?
[05:30] <MestreLion> sorry... java -versions
[05:30] <MestreLion> sorry... java -version
[05:30] <MestreLion> (those unstandard command-line options... die, Sun :P)
[05:30] <bazhang> !info festival
[05:31] <yumpinyon> hey thanks
[05:31] <yumpinyon> java version "1.6.0_23"
[05:31] <yumpinyon> is that newest?
[05:31] <bazhang> yumpinyon, check their homepage
[05:31] <yumpinyon> bazhang: ok thanks
[05:32] <MestreLion> wadkar: your grub config looks fine.. I have no idea why it isn't showing you text... maybe there's additional steps required in 11.10... but, you can always check your logs (specially demsg) for that
[05:32] <bazhang> it's no longer distributed by  ubuntu due to licensing issues
[05:33] <pk__> i have a server ..as soon as the power comes it is started automatically but it is stuck at grub screen
[05:34] <pk__> we need to press an enter in order to boot it further
[05:34] <scientes> does unity require 24 bit color now??
[05:34] <pk__> can someone help me to make it boot automatically
[05:34] <pk__> we want to use it as router
[05:34] <bazhang> scientes, as opposed to what?
[05:34] <scientes> i have a 16-bit color depth touchscreen
[05:35] <scientes> and "unity 2D panel has closed unexpectedly" ---after a very long delay
[05:35] <sacarlson> pk__: sound like you need to modify the default and timeout in grub
[05:35] <bazhang> if it does, then use unity-2d
[05:35] <scientes> ^^^i am using 2D
[05:35] <wadkar> MestreLion: its 11.04 not 11.10
[05:35] <wadkar> MestreLion: I would rather hit I to go interactive in the middle rather than let things fall/break and check dmesg/syslog
[05:36] <pk__> sacarlson: we have set the timeout to 2 and default is set to what should be booted
[05:36] <pk__> normally it boots properly,, but sometimes it is stuck on a screen which need an enter to be pressed
[05:36] <pk__> this server is located very far , we have to manually rush to that place to perform this key pressing
[05:37] <mi3> eelloo
[05:37] <MestreLion> wadkar: there's no way you can "go interactive", unless you use the single (recovery) mode and start the init scripts yourself
[05:38] <pk__> sacarlson: cant we remove this grub thing and then boot ubuntu directly
[05:38] <totesmuhgoats> pk__: no, grub is the thing that boots ubuntu
[05:38] <bazhang> pk__, thats the bootloader
[05:39] <paulus68> pk__: you are not able to connect to this server remotely? then I should place this router closer to your location if possible ofcourse
[05:40] <sacarlson> pk__: I was looking for the gui I use to modify my grub setting but haven't found the one I normaly use yet but see this one http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-change-grub-settings-with-guitools.html
[05:40] <wadkar> MestreLion: hmm, okay, but still, I would rather see the scrolling text rather than checking the syslog/dmesg everytime (plus its colorful during boot, which immediately brings RED colored stuff in focus)
[05:40] <pk__> this normally happens when the server shuts down abruptly due to power failure..normally it would boot properly
[05:41] <sacarlson> pk__: this is what I was looking for https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer
[05:42] <MestreLion> wadkar: I agree... but again, your grub is already set correctly, maybe there are additional steps needed for natty
[05:43] <pk__> piyush_ranjan: hello :)
[05:43] <sacarlson> pk__: oh if it boots normal with a normal shutdown then maybe it's a bios setting, or sometimes with flash shutdown the system will get into an unknown state, not fully reset but corrupted mem state
[05:43] <wadkar> MestreLion: hmm, are there any LINUX_CMDLINE options like 'noquiet' and 'nosplash'?
[05:43] <MestreLion> wadkar: you could also disable/remove plymouth... worth trying
[05:43] <GhostConn> on average 4-5 but it not because i boot my computer a million times a day to see a splashscreen lmao.. it just bugs me and im into customization and eye candy HARDCORE lol
[05:43] <bazhang> MestreLion, you dont want to remove plymouth
[05:43] <wadkar> MestreLion: what is the equivalent of 'chkconfig disable plymouth'?
[05:43] <MestreLion> wadkar: not that I know of... these are the default already...
[05:44] <wadkar> bazhang: why? what is plymouth?
[05:44] <djl75> plymouth is good
[05:44] <pk__> sacarlson: when we go to that place there is just a black screen waiting for us..we just press enter and booting proceeds further
[05:44] <MestreLion> wadkar: the splash manager
[05:44] <MestreLion> bazhang: isnt plymouth optional?
[05:45] <sacarlson> pk__: not sure then,  and it sounds like it's intermitent
[05:45] <collinjsimpson> Does anyone know how to set up some kind of disk quota for shared directories? (bindfs)
[05:46] <sacarlson> pk__: might be more stable with battery backup on it, even if battery goes to dead it will provide a timely restart
[05:46] <JZApples> Hi!  I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on how to remotely access my computer with the desktop environment from another Ubuntu , Windows Vista, and Windows 7 machines and an HP Touchpad.  I don't need to open it up to the Internet so I can access it anywhere, just from my LAN.
[05:47] <bazhang> MestreLion, you can remove the visible part, ie with the nosplash, but removing plymouth itself will make the system unable to boot
[05:48] <sacarlson> JZApples: there must be vnc that will work between most of those platform
[05:48] <JZApples> With VNC do I have to open it up to the internet though?
[05:49] <MestreLion> wadkar: bazhang is far more experienced than me... trust his advise then.. do not remove plymouth itself, just set nosplash and see if it works
[05:49] <sacarlson> JZApples: no internet can be excluded and is by default I would think
[05:50] <diverdude> How do i get php5.4. to run on ubuntu?
[05:50] <JZApples> sacarlson, Would I still need to open up port 5900 on my router if I only want to allow it on my network?
[05:51] <collinjsimpson> Anyone know how to set up quotas for shared folders?
[05:51] <bazhang> collinjsimpson, quotas of what exactly
[05:51] <collinjsimpson> bazhang:  disk quotas
[05:53] <sacarlson> JZApples: no if it's local you don't need that setting
[05:53] <JZApples> sacarlson, thanks, I'll try it again and see what happens.
[05:53] <collinjsimpson> If possible, I'd like to know how to mount the shared directories with fixed sizes.
[05:55] <goddard> what is the pkg-config for glut?
[05:55] <goddard> glut returns nothing
[05:56] <bazhang> goddard, you mean freeglut3?
[05:56] <goddard> ya
[05:56] <diverdude> is it safe to do: curl http://apt.damz.org/key.gpg | sudo apt-key add - ?
[05:56] <bazhang> !info freeglut3
[05:58] <nibbler_> diverdude, for sure not withuot https....
[05:58] <goddard> bazhang: yeah not enough info
[05:58] <goddard> bazhang: really need a cmake module for it
[05:59] <collinjsimpson> Is there any way I can prevent users from writing to shared folders to avoid exceeding disk quotas?
[05:59] <nibbler_> collinjsimpson, there is quota support, or you can just revoke the write permissions
[06:00] <diverdude> nibbler_: ok...i tried to do it in my virtualbox...so its ok.... i got it from this page: http://apt.damz.org/  then it also tells me to do deb http://apt.damz.org/ubuntu natty php54 but i get an error when typing that command. i dont have deb. why is that?
[06:01] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: this is all I found so far http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/quota_tutorial.html
[06:01] <collinjsimpson> nibbler_:  I'm using bindfs to create shared folders, and users are able to use up all of the disk space. I want users to be able to write files.
[06:03] <scientes> how do i launch unity 2d from the command line?
[06:04] <MestreLion> scientes: I'm not sure you can... you need to log-out and choose Unity 2D from the login screen
[06:04] <scientes> MestreLion, I'm trying to debug a crash when i log in
[06:05] <scientes> unity 2d doesn't want to launch
[06:05] <MestreLion> scientes: being in the command line assumes a terminal which assumes you're already logged in
[06:05] <scientes> so i'm trying to tuse strace
[06:05] <scientes> MestreLion, no, its ssh, and i have DISPLAY set properly
[06:06] <MestreLion> scientes: wow, can you ssh an entire desktop session?
[06:06] <scientes> MestreLion, well, i am targeting the host Xorg, but yeah, you can if you want
[06:06] <MestreLion> (not using vnc or rdp , of course)
[06:06] <scientes> i'm targeting the host Xorg cause i am trying to debug this one
[06:06] <scientes> MestreLion, of course, with Xephyr
[06:07] <MestreLion> scientes: well, I assume you already looked at the logs and didn't find anything useful
[06:07] <scientes> MestreLion, its not an Xorg problem
[06:07] <scientes> its unity-2d
[06:07] <scientes> which as i understand it is a modified metacity, which BTW is working
[06:07] <collinjsimpson> nibbler_:  Thanks for the link. I'm using bindfs, so that sounds like it be possible to create a filesystem, set the appropriate permissions, and go.
[06:07] <MestreLion> should dump log messages anyway
[06:10] <noosh> Hello. I am trying to tether via USB, my Android phone for networking, any idea where in the kernel I need to look for the driver?
[06:10] <wadkar> MestreLion: bazhang : putting CMDLINE option = 'nosplash' lets see if it works
[06:10]  * wadkar reboots
[06:15] <Ben64> noosh: tethering my phone "just works" maybe you're not doing it correctly?
[06:16] <pnunn> \join #elastix
[06:16] <jalcine> 1,500 people in one channel?
[06:16] <jalcine> DEATH.
[06:20] <himanshu> hello
[06:20] <noosh> Ben64: It worked initially when i used the gentoo install CD, net-setup usb0, but afterwards not. I linked net.lo to net.usb0
[06:21] <Ben64> this is an ubuntu support channel, not for gentoo
[06:21] <no-name-> for some reason when I installed 10.04 x64 the installer decided to give me an 18.9 GB swap partition. If I want it to be smaller, is it only a matter of changing its size or do I have to change some settings to tell the OS of its new size too?
[06:21] <noosh> Oh sorry, wrong room
[06:21] <noosh> my bad.
[06:22] <Ben64> no-name-: just need to change size
[06:22] <soreau> no-name-: you should be able to just resize it as long as the node name doesn't change
[06:22] <no-name-> ok, cool
[06:23] <wadkar> MestreLion: bazhang : nosplash didnt work, this sucks :( will upgrading to 11.10 solve this? or is 12.04 on the way?
[06:23] <no-name-> soreau, is a node name e.g. sda1 ?
[06:23] <soreau> no-name-: right
[06:23] <no-name-> ok
[06:24] <soreau> no-name-: you might double check /etc/fstab against the blkid command too
[06:24] <soreau> ! uuid
[06:24] <MestreLion> no-name-: how much RAM do you have for the installer to create such a huge swap?
[06:24] <Ben64> he's gone
[06:24] <no-name-> sorry, back
[06:24] <Ben64> oh wait
[06:24] <Ben64> un-gone
[06:24] <no-name-> MestreLion: 8 gb
[06:24] <soreau> no-name-: you might double check /etc/fstab against the blkid command too ^^
[06:24] <triscuit> Wow, how did it take me this long to find out gnome-open , opens pretty much everything from terminal? I've been using evince, eog, gedit
[06:24] <MestreLion> 19GB swap for 8GB RAM looks really weird
[06:25] <Ben64> with 8GB of ram, you don't *need* swap at all, if something happens during resize and it can't find it, everything will still work fine
[06:25] <MestreLion> triscuit: use xdg-open instead
[06:25] <jalcine> That's huge.
[06:25] <no-name-> MestreLion: yeah. whenever I look at its usage it's either at 0 or 40kb
[06:25] <triscuit> how's it different MestreLion?
[06:26] <MestreLion> triscuit: gnome-open is deprecated...
[06:26] <MestreLion> triscuit: the correct one is gfvs-open , but xdg-open takes care of this, regardless if you're using Gnome, KDE, LXDE...
[06:26] <MestreLion> triscuit: it's much more universal
[06:26] <pnorman> My swap is 48GB and I've used >40 GB before
[06:27] <MestreLion> you guys gotta be kidding me
[06:27] <triscuit> ok thanks MestreLion, I was also not liking how localized it seemed anyway
[06:27] <no-name-> ...
[06:27] <MestreLion> no-name-: you need swap for hibernation
[06:28] <no-name-> oh, right
[06:28] <no-name-> I don't use that
[06:28] <MestreLion> no-name-: but it can be as little as your RAM... set it to 8~10GB and you'll be fine
[06:28] <Ben64> i have 8GB ram, 2GB swap
[06:28] <MestreLion> Ben64: can you hibernate?
[06:28] <Ben64> computer stays on all the time
[06:29] <MestreLion> could you hibernate?
[06:29] <Ben64> probably not
[06:29] <Ben64> never understood the appeal
[06:29] <MestreLion> Ben64: being able to shut down without losing the session
[06:30] <subdesign> morning
[06:30] <no-name-> oh, so the machine is off but the session is stored in the swap space?
[06:30] <MestreLion> Ben64: great when you have dozens of windows and files and apps .. and you're about to go out for the weekend
[06:30] <no-name-> I'm not much a multi-tasker myself
[06:31] <subdesign> I try to lower the 11.10 launcher icon size, but no changes. any idea why?
[06:31] <subdesign> I had a compiz crach earlier thats true
[06:31] <subdesign> *crash
[06:31] <Ben64> computer stays on all weekend
[06:31] <Ben64> : /
[06:31] <MestreLion> no-name-: correct. Hibernation saves all your RAM to hdd... and shuts down. and you can even unplug from power cord
[06:32] <MestreLion> no-name-: when you turn it back on, it is loaded as you've never had shut down at all
[06:32] <Ben64>  23:32:14 up 14 days,  1:53,  9 users,  load average: 1.81, 1.76, 1.78
[06:33] <MestreLion> no-name-: not all drivers/hardware deal with that  correctly.. but when they do, it is absolutely sweet :D
[06:33] <no-name-> yeah, if you regularly have a lot of stuff open at once
[06:33] <no-name-> I usually just have 2 - 5 :)
[06:34] <MestreLion> no-name-: and this is not only an Ubuntu feature... windows has hibernation since XP too... it's more like a concept
[06:34] <diverdude> if i have version 1.0 of a program installed which is newest version in official repo, and i add a PPA, and du apt-get upgrade...will the packet manage then automatically update to the version from the PPA?
[06:34] <no-name-> yeah
[06:34] <diverdude> no-name-: me?
[06:34] <MestreLion> no-name-: if you don't care about hibernation at all, simply sudo swapoff, delete the swap partition and adjust /etc/fsbat accordinly... not sure if any additional steps required
[06:35] <no-name-> diverdude: sorry, was talking to MestreLion
[06:35] <MestreLion> diverdude: yes it will
[06:35] <Ben64> diverdude: usually it works like that
[06:35] <MestreLion> diverdude: you have have to apt-get update first, so it scans the newly-added PPA
[06:35] <MestreLion> may have*
[06:36] <no-name-> MestreLion: do I only need to use the swapoff command once?
[06:36] <MestreLion> no-name-: /etc/fstab , sorry for the typo
[06:37] <saju_ma> Getting error (Directory not empty) when copying file using 'cp' command to shared location (NFS) and trying to remove directory after killing copy process
[06:37] <saju_ma> http://dpaste.com/719952/
[06:37] <diverdude> MestreLion: ok...when i do that it says: The following packages have been kept back:
[06:37] <diverdude>   libapache2-mod-php5 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-mysql
[06:37] <MestreLion> no-name-: no, that alone will only disable swap until you reboot
[06:37] <diverdude> MestreLion: but those were the pack it was supposed to upgrade
[06:37] <diverdude> packs
[06:37] <MestreLion> diverdude: it means you have more upgradable packages
[06:38] <diverdude> MestreLion: what does that mean?
[06:38] <Ben64> diverdude: you're trying to add a ppa to update the kernel? why?
[06:38] <diverdude> MestreLion: why dont it upgrade it then
[06:38] <diverdude> Ben64: no im trying to update php to 5.4
[06:38] <MestreLion> diverdude: upgrading is not automatic... you must tell apt WHAT you want to upgrade
[06:38] <MestreLion> diverdude: OR use the update manager
[06:38] <Ben64> diverdude: then why is the kernel in there
[06:38] <diverdude> Ben64: no idea
[06:38] <no-name-> does swap space save you from crashes if you're using too much of your RAM?
[06:39] <diverdude> Ben64: it was already there i think
[06:39] <Ben64> diverdude: which ppa are you using
[06:39] <MestreLion> Ben64: maybe a kernel upgrade from regular repos... update-manager only starts once a day (or week)
[06:39] <diverdude> Ben64: im using this: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[06:40] <Ben64> diverdude: open up synaptic and mark all the upgrades
[06:40] <MestreLion> no-name-: it can help, yes... because you would have more RAM available
[06:40] <diverdude> Ben64: cant i just upgrade everything with a command?
[06:40] <MestreLion> Ben64: using update manager is better...
[06:40] <MestreLion> diverdude: you can... update manager is your friend :P
[06:40] <Ben64> update manager isn't a command
[06:41] <MestreLion> Ben64: no, it's an app
[06:41] <Ben64> he asked for command
[06:41] <Ben64> diverdude: you'd probably have to specify what to upgrade, because something in those upgrades requires the removal of something else most likely
[06:42] <MestreLion> i'm not aware of any command that can "upgrade all upgradable packages"
[06:42] <MestreLion> no-name-: if you're going to delete your swap, there are indeed additional steps
[06:42] <diverdude> Ben64: ok...now i opened the update manager. I think it will work fine
[06:43] <no-name-> MestreLion: alright. do you know of any reliable guides that I can read?
[06:43] <MestreLion> diverdude: you can use apt-get upgrade <package> , but you cant use apt-get upgrade *
[06:43] <diverdude> MestreLion: ok...thats a bit weird
[06:43] <Ben64> "apt-get upgrade" with no arguments upgrades all packages
[06:43] <Ben64> except for ones that require other things to be removed
[06:44] <MestreLion> Ben64: humm, nice...
[06:44] <MestreLion> so, there you go diverdude ... apt-get upgrade
[06:44] <diverdude> MestreLion: if i want to downgrade again how do i do that?
[06:45] <MestreLion> no-name-: i'm sure you would need to update both /etc/fstab (deleting the swap line), and also /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume (deleting the RESUME=UUID=<uuid> line), and also run sudo update-initramfs
[06:46] <MestreLion> diverdude: you can force a version using apt-get install
[06:46] <no-name-> MestreLion: alright. I'll look around on the web and see what I can find.
[06:46] <MestreLion> diverdude: or you can use Synaptics for that
[06:46] <MestreLion> no-name-: but my suggestion is... do like Ben64 did... he has 8GB RAM and only 2GB swap
[06:46] <no-name-> yeah
[06:47] <no-name-> I think I will do that
[06:47] <MestreLion> no-name-: you would save more than 15 GB of hdd
[06:47] <no-name-> is it then merely a matter of resizing it?
[06:47] <no-name-> yeah
[06:47] <MestreLion> and still keep a minimum swap space
[06:47] <MestreLion> no-name-: yes, it is... but gparted does not resize swap partitions,
[06:48] <no-name-> oh
[06:48] <MestreLion> no-name-: so you either use another tool, OR delete it and re-create it and then change the UUID in fstab and resume files accordinly
[06:49] <no-name-> ok
[06:49] <MestreLion> no-name-: so the workflow would be:
[06:49] <MestreLion> no-name-: 1 - use gparted to swapoff, delete and create again a swap partition.
[06:50] <MestreLion> no-name-: 2 - take note of the new uuid of that partition (use either gparted or mkswap)
[06:50] <makara> i transfered a domain from someone into my account, but I left some email files on their host and I need to ftp them over. of course I can't use the dns to login because that points to my own host. Is there some way to find the ip address of the host on my computer? is there a log file that would have that information? Firefox history doesn't keep ip addresses
[06:50] <labkom6> hello
[06:50] <MestreLion> no-name-: change /etc/fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume accordinly
[06:51] <labkom6> heeeiii --"
[06:51] <no-name-> MestreLion: thanks =]
[06:51] <MestreLion> no-name-: and sudo update-initramfs -u to apply changes
[06:51] <labkom6> damn !
[06:53] <phong_> h
[06:53] <phong_> hi all
[06:54] <MestreLion> Ben64: i'm curious.. do you have any RESUME-UUID= in your /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume ?
[06:55] <Ben64> MestreLion: RESUME=UUID=0c1ad202-ef41-4c32-a4c8-5c149e0b20c0
[06:55] <MestreLion> I wonder how ubuntu deals with that since your swap is smaller than your RAM
[06:55] <MestreLion> is it smart enough to detect that and disable hibernate?
[06:56] <Ben64> hibernate is an option on the shutdown menu thing
[06:56] <Ben64> but i've never tried it
[06:56] <MestreLion> i wonder what would happen
[06:56] <MestreLion> and also how to "properly" disable hibernate
[06:57] <Ben64> well i only have 1802MB used right now, so it could work maybe
[07:00] <drounse> has anyone had luck installing or booting linux or bsd on a gateway matxhrn e4100 everyone seems to have trouble with it
[07:01] <MestreLion> Ben64: does not work like that... RAM usage is fragmented, it need to dump all of it to be safe
[07:02] <Syria> Hello, I have just upgraded to 11.10 but I am missing many things!! like the system menu which contains administration and preferences and the dock thing!
[07:02] <MestreLion> Syria: welcome to Gnome 3 :D
[07:03] <Syria> MestreLion:  :( what should I do
[07:03] <MestreLion> Syria: learn to love the they Unity UI
[07:03] <aatish> can any one tel me the latest version of ubuntu
[07:03] <aatish> how is that
[07:03] <MestreLion> aatish: 11.10
[07:03] <Error404NotFound> I want to use duplicity+python-boto to do backups on my account but i only have access for FTP and crons. Would it work if i build these packages and their dependencies in my homedir on laptop and then copy it there while considering that the cpu arch of both,my laptop and that ftp server, is same?
[07:04] <aatish> yes mestrelina: i m using 10
[07:04] <MestreLion> aatish: and 12.04 is about to be released in a month
[07:04] <aatish> o GOOOOD
[07:04] <aatish> coooooooooool
[07:04] <MestreLion> aatish: 10.?
[07:04] <aatish> 10.04 netty
[07:04] <aatish> o sorry tht is 11.04 netty
[07:04] <MestreLion> 10.04 is Lucid
[07:05] <MestreLion> Natty you mean
[07:05] <aatish> yes MestrLine
[07:05] <MestreLion> MestreLion.. use TAB to autocomplete :P
[07:05] <aatish> MestreLion: tx i m newbiw here in IRC
[07:06] <MestreLion> aatish: no problem, you're welcome
[07:06] <aatish> MestreLion: can you tell me how can i run deramviwer in ubuntu
[07:06] <ga_sk8er> i have a question about installing ubuntu with windows on dual boot. the other day in another lounge some ppl told me it would cause issues with windows. is that true?
[07:07] <ga_sk8er> that day i was having a boot problem about ntldr & they told me that dualboot would cause that issue to happen later on
[07:07] <MestreLion> Syria: I was a bit sarcastic, and I'm sorry... but the thing is: the interface was revamped, many options have changed, it's a whole new desktop... there are tons of options and things to discover about it... try to learn the new features
[07:07] <MestreLion> aatish: you mean dreamweaver ?
[07:08] <ohs> I have an ubuntu runnuning on VMware. when I insert a SD card on my pc, ubuntu can not see the SD card how can I make ubuntu see the SD card?
[07:08] <Syria> MestreLion: Thank you very much dude.
[07:08] <ga_sk8er> ohs did u mount it like a thumb drive?
[07:09] <ohs> ga_sk8er:no,I dont know how to do it, can you tell me how can I do it?
[07:09] <MestreLion> ohs: what is the host os ?
[07:09] <aatish> MestreLion: yes
[07:09] <ohs> windows 7
[07:10] <MestreLion> ohs: does VMWare exposes SD cards to its vms automatically?
[07:10] <drounse> would openbios allow me to boot any linux or bsd os?
[07:10] <ga_sk8er> its been so long since ive been in linux i forget the commands to mount
[07:10] <MestreLion> aatish: you should really be more careful with your typing aatish .. we won't be able to read your mind everytime
[07:10] <ga_sk8er> i found a page about doing it though
[07:10] <aatish> sacarlson: hi
[07:10] <ga_sk8er> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[07:10] <ohs> MestreLion: no, it doesnt expose the SD card
[07:10] <ndezith> hi all somebody success install asterisk on ubuntu?
[07:11] <aatish> MestreLion: very sorry
[07:11] <MestreLion> ohs: so this is a windows vmware issue
[07:12] <ga_sk8er> does anyone have ubuntu on a hard drive along with windows...dual boot?
[07:12] <g[r]eek> Hi fellas. I'd like to enable / install libxml for PHP. How do I do this / what package must I install? Thanks
[07:12] <MestreLion> ga_sk8er: i bet many do, me included.
[07:12] <ohs> MestreLion: I can see access the SD driver but it does not expose automatically. do you have any idea what I can do?
[07:13] <aatish> MestreLion: i tried all the online informations regarding WINE but i can't install that in ubuntu 11 Netty
[07:13] <ga_sk8er> i was in a chat the other day & talking tech/ computer stuff....i mentioned i was gonna do dualboot & someone in there said doing that would cause issues to haapen in my windows. idk if its true. i want to find out before i try doing dual boot
[07:13] <MestreLion> aatish: installing wine is really easy and straighforward... it's in the Software Center
[07:14] <TylerW> ga_sk8er: not if you do it right
[07:14] <MestreLion> ohs: ask vmware support in #windows
[07:14] <wylde> ga_sk8er: I use dual boot for years until this past year I went completely to Linux.
[07:14] <wylde> used*
[07:14] <ga_sk8er> i know ive had other versions of linux on dual boot & it didnt cause issues. idk if there was something different about ubuntu
[07:14] <TylerW> nope
[07:14] <ndezith> ga_sk8er: why you need dual boot?
[07:15] <TylerW> I've run dual-boot for a long time in the past... never had any issues
[07:15] <ga_sk8er> then im gonna dual boot :)
[07:15] <ohs> MestreLion: I can also see on VMware that under the removable device section, I can see "micro usb composite device"
[07:15] <TylerW> In fact, if you're dual-booting with Windows using the Ubuntu windows installer makes it the easiest possible setup imagineable for dual-booting
[07:15] <ohs> MestreLion: so can I mount or do something on ubuntu?
[07:15] <MestreLion> aatish: does it HAVE to be dreamweaver? there are many great native web editors, like Aptana
[07:15] <g[r]eek> Hi fellas. I'd like to enable / install libxml for PHP. How do I do this / what package must I install? Thanks
[07:15] <TylerW> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[07:16] <ga_sk8er> ohs...the vmware is basically running windows....i wonder if it has the correct driver for the card reader
[07:16] <MestreLion> ohs: VMware exposes the SD card to Ubuntu, it should automatically auto-mount
[07:16] <aatish> MestreLion: i m php developer so can you tell me best IDE
[07:16] <TylerW> NetBeans for PHP
[07:16] <aatish> MestreLion: i'll try Aptana
[07:16] <wylde> g[r]eek: http://php.net/manual/en/book.libxml.php
[07:16] <TylerW> ick I don't like Aptana, netbeans lal the way
[07:17] <TylerW> wylde: I think he means the apt package to enable it
[07:17] <TylerW> its not in PHP by default
[07:17] <MestreLion> aatish: as TylerW said,  netbeans is also a great option...
[07:18] <aatish> TylerW: can netbean is for JAVA
[07:18] <wylde> The libxml extension is enabled by default, although it may be disabled with --disable-libxml .
[07:18] <TylerW> http://netbeans.org/features/php/
[07:18] <MestreLion> aatish: netbeans is a multi-language IDE, not just for java
[07:18] <ohs> ga_sk8er, MestreLion: maybe I misunderstand the "expose". windows sees the sd card, I can see what is inside the SD card on windows side. I can also see on VMware's removable devices as "microusb composite device". in that case, can I use see the SD card on ubuntu somehow?
[07:19] <TylerW> g[r]eek: have you tried the XML-RPC and had it fail?
[07:19] <aatish> TylerW: tx
[07:19] <aatish> MestreLion: I'll try to get information with that
[07:20] <TylerW> g[r]eek: Found it; apt-get install php5-xmlrpc
[07:20] <MestreLion> ohs: "expose" means = make the SD card from the host OS (windows) available to its virtual machines (guest OS, Ubuntu)
[07:20] <g[r]eek> TylerW, yeah I tried the xmlrpc_encode_request function and that failed.
[07:20] <g[r]eek> Ok thanks I'll give that a bash
[07:20] <ga_sk8er> ohs. yeah u should be able to use the sd card on ubuntu
[07:20] <TylerW> also helpful: apt-cache search php5- shows all the modules for PHP you can install that may not have been installed by default
[07:20] <g[r]eek> TylerW, for some reason I read in the docs that I needed libxml and not xmlrpc
[07:21] <g[r]eek> TylerW, woah that's a great tip thanks
[07:21] <TylerW> yeah... what I find weird is that libxml should be installed by default... especially seeing as though you chose the automated LAMP install
[07:21] <niloy> hi
[07:21] <TylerW> you probably need both...
[07:21] <aatish> TylerW: i need wysiwyg function IN IDE coz few work we want to make with that and i think in netbeans i cant use wysiwyg function
[07:21] <MestreLion> ohs: from the Ubuntu point of view, as long as VMWare does this correctly, it should auto-mount that SD card perfectly, no additional steps required. But you should get suport about VMWare
[07:21] <ohs> MestreLion: thank you very much
[07:22] <ohs> I will search on google about it
[07:22] <TylerW> MestreLion: I missed part of the conversation? But could it be that he has to select to attach the device to the Ubuntu installed in VMware, or has that already been established
[07:22] <MestreLion> ohs: from the Ubuntu point of view, as long as VMWare does this correctly, *Ubuntu* should auto-mount that SD card perfectly, no additional steps required. So you should check VMWare config.. ask for support in #vmware
[07:22] <MestreLion> TylerW: sure, but that is a VMWare issue, not Ubuntu's
[07:22] <ohs> I already asked on #vmware but they are all sleeping I guess:) but thank you very much, you were very helpful
[07:23] <g[r]eek> TylerW, I'm going to stick around in the other channel as it's a bit noisy in here
[07:23] <TylerW> just curious...
[07:23] <MestreLion> TylerW: i've never used VMWare, only Virtualbox... in VB, you can set it up to auto-expose USB devices
[07:23] <ga_sk8er> ohs....ever hear of TWiT? someone there might be able to answer you
[07:24] <aatish> TylerW: in VMWare there is direct option to access USB
[07:24] <TylerW> mestrelion: Yes, I've used both. Unfortunately, you have to go to "Virtual Machine" and thne tell it to attach the device... I PMed him though that info
[07:25] <TylerW> aatish: you must have to set that somewhere though
[07:25] <ga_sk8er> ohs http://twit.tv/ scroll down & they have their own irc chat. they do nothing but technology stuff
[07:25] <MestreLion> TylerW: but you have to attach each time you plug or unplug a new thumb drive?
[07:25] <TylerW> MestreLion: if its new yeah... I've found it remembers the drives I told it to attach and will automatically attach those when I plug them in
[07:26] <MestreLion> TylerW: ewwww... Virtualbox FTW ;)
[07:26] <TylerW> MestreLion: BUT it usually pops up and says "a new device can be used with your Virtual Machine" and I believe (theres got to be) an auto attach setting somewhere
[07:26] <MestreLion> still, vb ftw :P
[07:26] <TylerW> Yes, VirtualBox ftw indeed... I use both for various uses... mainly vmware for my Mac system I need for testing, VB for everything else
[07:27] <Ben64> virtualbox is very difficult to use from commandline
[07:28] <MestreLion> Ben64: command-what? GUI ftw :P
[07:28] <Ben64> what about on servers
[07:28] <niloy> is there a way in grep to see text above and below the matching line?
[07:28] <MestreLion> oops :P
[07:28] <MestreLion> Ben64: bash scripting ftw :P
[07:28] <Ben64> what does that have to do with virtualbox
[07:29] <MestreLion> niloy: grep -A , -B or -C
[07:29] <MestreLion> niloy: use man grep to read more about it
[07:30] <MestreLion> Ben64: scritping commonly used vb actions
[07:31] <MestreLion> Ben64: for example, I did some scripts to "trim" the virtual hdds to their actual used space + 10%, since that, as you said and I admit, is a pain to do in command line
[07:32] <MestreLion> Ben64: and it *requires* command line
[07:32] <ohs> what command do I need to type to see what version of ubuntu that I am using?
[07:32] <MestreLion> can someone please ban ETERNAL_TRAVIS for flooding PM with bra ads?
[07:33] <Ben64> i mean the whole thing
[07:33] <MestreLion> ohs: lsb_release -a
[07:33] <Ben64> try setting up a system with virtualbox with no gui from scratch
[07:33] <ohs> thank you
[07:33] <Ben64> takes ages
[07:33] <cjey> I wrote a package A which uses a virtual package. the virtual package has 2 concrete packages  B or C, while install A, the system always select B, and do not provide a choice between B or C. How can I add a selection menu into the deb package?
[07:34] <MestreLion> oh... never tried that Ben64 ... actually, one of the things i love about vb is that is one of the very few apps in Linux with a consistent, solid and powerful GUI
[07:34] <Ben64> which doesn't matter if you can't see it :|
[07:35] <Ben64> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
[07:35] <MestreLion> sure
[07:35] <Ben64> and that page is still missing a ton of info
[07:36] <MestreLion> cjey: why should the user choose? if B and C are actually equivalent regarding A, let the system picks
[07:36] <cjey> actually the 2 packages are of -dev and -rel, I would like to let the installing user to pick
[07:36] <TylerW> Looks like ohs problem is Ubuntu afterall and not vmware
[07:37] <cjey> the -dev package provides debugging/testing facilities
[07:37] <MestreLion> cjey: it is not package A's role to trigger
[07:38] <n4dsp> is there a way to repartition my hard drive without disturbing the programs? Have 95% of memory in /home and only 10% in /
[07:39] <MestreLion> cjey: and the -rel package provides... ?
[07:39] <MestreLion> n4dsp: boot using LiveCD and use gparted to reside partitions
[07:39] <MestreLion> resize*
[07:40] <n4dsp> where can I get a LiveCD MestreLion?
[07:40] <cjey> MestreLion, the -dev provides what the -rel provides plus testing tools
[07:40] <TylerW> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[07:40] <MestreLion> n4dsp: use the same you used for installing Ubuntu
[07:40] <TylerW> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[07:41] <vlt> n4dsp: I can recommend grml.org.
[07:41] <n4dsp> hmm, ok, my memory fails me. Thanks.
[07:41] <n4dsp> ok vit
[07:41] <TylerW> n4dsp: are you comfortable with command line?
[07:41] <TylerW> can save some time
[07:41] <MestreLion> TylerW: no need, he already installed Ubuntu using a LiveCD ;)
[07:41] <n4dsp> not really TylerW
[07:41] <TylerW> ok, then go with a Live disk like MestreLion suggested!
[07:42] <MestreLion> guys... why make it harder... Ubuntu's install CD is a Live CD and it has gparted... can't be easier than that
[07:42] <niloy> MestreLion, thanks
[07:42] <TylerW> because you always learn more the hard way! :-D
[07:42] <n4dsp> but not sure what I used to install
[07:42] <TylerW> http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions <-- my preferred method, but I usually tend to work with Ubuntu Server that doesn't have xwindows/gui/gnome installed
[07:42] <n4dsp> thanks for the info
[07:42] <MestreLion> n4dsp: if you don't have the CD anymore, download and burn one ;)
[07:43] <n4dsp> ok, thanks
[07:43] <MestreLion> n4dsp: then give the CD to a friend ;)
[07:43] <n4dsp> :>)
[07:43] <MestreLion> TylerW: he would have to boot with a live CD anyway... can't resize while / and /home are mounted
[07:44] <vlt> !ops
[07:44] <vlt> spams: ETERNAL_TRAVIS
[07:44] <vlt> (via pm)
[07:44] <MestreLion> vlt: he did that to you too?
[07:45] <TylerW> not if you're using LVM, you can resize mounted partitions
[07:46] <MestreLion> hummm, true... LVM heaven... one day i'll dive into that
[07:46] <pirx_> the Precise nightly builds. if i install those, then
[07:46] <pirx_> can i upgrade to the real release once its released?
[07:46] <pirx_> i guess i can, right?
[07:46] <MestreLion> pirx_: just do regular updates from update manager
[07:47] <MestreLion> pirx_: but I suggest using the Beta CD instead
[07:48] <lizzin> i am attempting to use usb-creator-gtk to make a bootable usb. but it keeps failing with
[07:48] <lizzin> "there is not enough free space for this image"
[07:48] <lizzin> the usb stick is 8gb. why is this happening?
[07:48] <MestreLion> TylerW: can ubiqyity handle lvm already?
[07:48] <pirx_> MestreLion: ah, there is such a thing?
[07:48] <pirx_> goodie
[07:49] <MestreLion> pirx_: yes, Beta 1 was released already.. maybe even Beta 2... for more info about Precise, use #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <leo_> hi people
[07:49] <MestreLion> lizzin: is the usb full?
[07:50] <lizzin> MestreLion: i don't believe so. i just use disk utiltity in osx to reformat it
[07:50] <MestreLion> lizzin: what filesystem did it create?
[07:51] <lizzin> magentar: fat 32
[07:51] <rhin0> how do I get rid of little "helpful" black dialogues whne you mouse over certain things like "click to open new tab"
[07:52] <MestreLion> lizzin: using MSDOS "traditional" partition table?
[07:52] <rhin0> how do I turn them off lik e"click to view your appointnments ant tasks" on the clock (most irritating one on 10.04)
[07:52] <lizzin> MestreLion: i'm not sure. what do you suggest i use?
[07:52] <g[r]eek> Hi. How can I check if za.archive.ubuntu.com is working properly or not? Because when I try a simple apt-get install it fails to resolve
[07:53] <MestreLion> lizzin: I'm blind-guessing here... osx is capable of gpt partition tables, and they may not be supported by usb-creator
[07:53] <g[r]eek> I keep getting "Temporary failure resolving 'za.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[07:53] <MestreLion> lizzin: and gpt might be the default format iin Disk Utility
[07:54] <MestreLion> lizzin: try "format Drive" again, it should ask what partition table standard to use
[07:54] <lizzin> MestreLion: under osx?
[07:54] <MestreLion> lizzin: yes... I'm assuming you're using disk utility and usb-creator in osx, correct?
[07:54] <olegb> g[r]eek: I am able to look it up using nslookup - maybe your nameserver is failing
[07:54] <athxxx> is possible to connect wpa2 personal from ubuntu to adhoc wifi??
[07:55] <chinosuke> hi, just want to know is there any live cd version of "ubuntu server". Just want to have it in case my linux box cannot boot up so I still can boot with live cd and access data in the hdd.
[07:55] <karthick87> Network connections getting dropped randomly in few ubuntu systems. After restarting the networking services it is getting started working again. How to fix this issue ?
[07:55] <lizzin> MestreLion: the options are 'guid pt', 'apple pt' or 'master boot record'
[07:55] <rhin0> i don't need little black dialogue boxes to come up when I mouse over anything say on the task bar -- how do I turn them off
[07:55] <rhin0> that
[07:56] <rhin0> 10.04
[07:56] <MestreLion> chinosuke: if it is just for emergency's sake, why does it need to be a server live cd? the regular one is not fine?
[07:56] <MestreLion> lizzin: "master boot record"
[07:56] <lizzin> MestreLion: thats what i've been using
[07:57] <chinosuke> MestreLion: the regular one just have only installer option. or i missunderstood it.
[07:57] <lizzin> MestreLion: ill try this again
[07:57] <MestreLion> so you formated with master boot record, and then created a single 8gb fat-32 partition?
[07:58] <MestreLion> chinosuke: Ubuntu Desktop's install CDs are LiveCDs
[07:58] <bennyp> Howdy. I want to install ubuntu on a USB drive but I want it to be a full install, not the LiveCD version of the OS. There's http://tinyurl.com/6oxc6gg, but I don't want the drive to wear down with /tmp being on the flash. How do i set up /tmp in ram in a full install?
[07:59] <chinosuke>  MestreLion: I don't want desktop enviroment it boot slow.
[07:59] <MestreLion> bennyp: use a tmpfs entry in /etc/fstab
[08:00] <MestreLion> chinosuke: isn't it just an emergency recover cd ?
[08:00] <preds_> did a dist upgrade, my log file is now full of -> init: tty6 main process (12449) terminated with status 1
[08:00] <preds_> any ideas how to debug what's going on?
[08:01] <MestreLion> bennyp: something like tmpfs  /tmp  tmpfs   defaults,nodev,nosuid,mode=1777,size=4g    0	0
[08:01] <Lewoco> When I do "/bin/ls -lu --full-time /bin/ls" repeatedly, the timestamp doesn't change. Why not?
[08:02] <MestreLion> Lewoco: because you may have atime disabled on your filesystem
[08:02] <Lewoco> MestreLion, How do I check?
[08:03] <MestreLion> are you sure you want to turn that on
[08:03] <MestreLion> ?
[08:03] <n4dsp> how do i do a change nick
[08:03] <MestreLion> Lewoco: it's usually a veeery bad idea to have it on
[08:03] <chinosuke>  MestreLion:  Do desktop live cd has all tool for emergency task like disk utility, mdadm
[08:03] <MestreLion> n4dsp: /nick newnick
[08:03] <n4dsp> thanks
[08:03] <Lewoco> MestreLion, Who said anything about turning it on?
[08:04] <Lewoco> MestreLion, I want to check if it's currently on or off.
[08:04] <MestreLion> Lewoco: sudo debugfs -R feature <device>
[08:04] <bennyp> MestreLion: thanks I'll try it out
[08:05] <Lewoco> Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize
[08:05] <n4dsp> so using a LiveCD I can repartition the drive even if it's mounted. Is that correct?
[08:06] <lizzin> MestreLion: so im actually using unetbootin under osx
[08:06] <n4dsp> using gparted
[08:06] <MestreLion> n4dsp: if you use a livecd, your hdd won't be mounted, that is the point ;)
[08:06] <n4dsp> thanks
[08:06] <Lewoco> MestreLion, I don't see atime in there. Does that mean it's not enabled?
[08:07] <MestreLion> Lewoco: yup, but let me confirm that
[08:08] <n4dsp> I keep getting privates from Eternal Trav
[08:09] <chinosuke> MestreLion:  Do desktop live cd has all tool for emergency task like disk utility, mdadm
[08:09] <karthick87> Network connections getting dropped randomly in few ubuntu systems. After restarting the networking services it is getting started working again. How to fix this issue ?
[08:10] <MestreLion> chinosuke: if it doesn't have all the tools you need, use a livecd meant for that, like emergengy repair livecd, or gparted cd
[08:11] <bennyp> MestreLion: will setting that once maintain the tmpfs through reboots?
[08:11] <lizzin> MestreLion: so it appears to work but returns "the created usb device will not boot off a mac. insert it into a pc and select the usb boot option in the bios menu." is this normal?
[08:12] <MestreLion> yes bennyp ... /etc/fstab is meant for permanent mounts
[08:12] <bennyp> MestreLion:  sorry, I misunderstood. Should I run that line as a command, or append it to /etc/fstab?
[08:12] <MestreLion> lizzin: hummm, mac *requires* gpt ?then I don't know man...
[08:13] <MestreLion> bennyp: append that line in your ***USB install*** /etc/fstab
[08:13] <bennyp> MestreLion: thanks
[08:13] <ejv> hi guys, my new user isn't being asked for a password when I sudo, i'm in the sudo group... ideas?
[08:13] <MestreLion> do NOT change your hdd /etc/fstab :P
[08:13] <bennyp> MestreLion: I took the hard disk *out*, so it'll be hard to miss
[08:14] <bennyp> :D
[08:14] <MestreLion> bennyp: good :)
[08:14] <ejv> is it too close to the initial login, so it's caching my pass? i thought sudo would still ask...
[08:15] <MestreLion> ejv: you mean not requiring password when you sudo su - <login> ?
[08:15] <ejv> not quite
[08:15] <ejv> when i simply: sudo <command>
[08:15] <ejv> sudo nano /etc/passwd for example, i expect it to ask, and it does not
[08:16] <MestreLion> lizzin: I'm not sure about the requirements for usb-creator in osx, sorry... not even sure IF usb-creator is able to hand non-mbr partition tables...
[08:16] <bennyp> MestreLion: can i skip the swap partition?
[08:17] <MestreLion> bennyp: yes, you can delete the partition and adjust fstab accordingly
[08:17] <MestreLion> bennyp: OR use the advanced partitioning wizard when installiing
[08:17] <bennyp> MestreLion: so when i install, i'll set it to NOT create a swap partition
[08:17] <MestreLion> bennyp: so it does not even create a swap
[08:18] <MestreLion> bennyp: you're good to go :)
[08:18] <subdesign> hi
[08:18] <subdesign> how to extract .bin iso file in ubuntu?
[08:18] <Riddell> subdesign: be very careful, that's a programme that needs to be run
[08:18] <vipintruder> ejv: please, paste the content of your /etc/sudoers file.
[08:19] <bennyp> MestreLion: can i mount /home as fat?
[08:19] <MestreLion> bennyp: i *strongly* advise you NOT to
[08:19] <bennyp> MestreLion: oh well.. it was a nice idea
[08:19] <TylerW> sudo mount -t msdos /dev/sda1 /home
[08:19] <MestreLion> bennyp: but you CAN create an aditional /data partition.. and use that to store docs, music, etc
[08:20] <TylerW> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home
[08:20] <bennyp> MestreLion: i'm installing for a decidedly non-techie client, so i'd rather keep it simple
[08:20] <bennyp> Installer gives me 1 partition of 768mb and another with the rest of the free space, that's correct?
[08:20] <MestreLion> TylerW: fat-32 (or ntfs) has no unix permitions... using /home with that ill be chaos
[08:22] <MestreLion> bennyp: you might set up as this: leave /home inside / , no need for a separate parttion in an usb install. But create a fat or ntfs data partition and install it in /data
[08:22] <TylerW> MestreLion: agreed... I was just answering the question, lol
[08:22] <subdesign> Riddell, its 100% an iso image not a linux bin file
[08:22] <TylerW> how do I report pM spams?
[08:22] <MestreLion> bennyp: then create symlinks from your user's ~/Documents , ~/Music, etc, pointing to /data/documents , /data/music , etc
[08:22] <bennyp> MestreLion: i think i'll do that
[08:23] <bennyp> how big should the system partition be? it's an 8gb flash drive, so as much space as i can dedicate to fat the better
[08:24] <MestreLion> bennyp: this way the ~/ files (including all config files) will be ext3/4 , while your user's data will be saved in a "sharable" fat/ntfs partition.. it is THE best solution, not only for usb installs (I did that with my mom, gf, and myself)
[08:24] <bennyp> and if I understand that layout, all the files will be written to /, not to /data
[08:24] <vta> Is there any way to convert from i386 package to arm package?
[08:24] <bennyp> MestreLion: ahh i get it
[08:24] <ohs> MestreLion: the vmware problem is solved, I need to mount the SD card. do you know how I can mount the SD card on ubuntu?
[08:25] <bennyp> I'll delete the 'media' directories under ~ and link them to dirs on /data
[08:25] <MestreLion> bennyp: that's a tough question... depends on usage... for a full install you need at least 3~4 GB for / , that does not leave much space for files
[08:25] <MestreLion> exactly bennyp
[08:26] <MestreLion> ohs: Ubuntu should already list the SD card in Nautilus... usually double-click is enough
[08:26] <bennyp> MestreLion: so 4 gb for / and 4 for data
[08:26] <bennyp> and i'll tell them that for extra storage, they can buy more flash drives / sd cards
[08:26] <bennyp> this is really cool :) :) :)
[08:27] <MestreLion> bennyp: that's still very limited... your user would not be able to install too much software with 4G... 5GB would be better
[08:27] <ejv> vipintruder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/894808/
[08:27] <ohs> MestreLion: on vmware room, they said that SD cards should be mount if I am running ubuntu on vmware
[08:27] <ohs> MestreLion: could you please tell me how can I find my SD card and mount it?
[08:28] <MestreLion> bennyp: you may consider using a LiveCD partition + casper rw partition... ever heard of that?
[08:28] <MestreLion> ohs: open NAutilus, it should be there
[08:28] <bennyp> MestreLion: I have, but I don't want the install to be the livecd version of the OS
[08:29] <MestreLion> bennyp: true, that is not the same thing... but it would save a couple GB's
[08:29] <bennyp> MestreLion: how feasible would it be to 'roll my own' livecd from a full install?
[08:29] <TylerW> mestrelion: linux inside vmware doesn't auto mount sd cards
[08:29] <MestreLion> bennyp: 800MB LiveCD, 2GB casper, and * for /data
[08:29] <ohs> MestreLion: forgive my ignorance, how can I open NAutilus?
[08:30] <MestreLion> ohs: File Manager
[08:30] <TylerW> mestrelion: we've been working for over an hour trying to figure out what /dev/ device his sd card is, this will go nowhere
[08:30] <ejv> ohs: type 'nautilus %'
[08:30] <ejv> s/%/&/
[08:30] <ohs> MestreLion: it is not there
[08:30] <MestreLion> TylerW: you say VMWare is not even assigning the SD card a /dev/sdx device ???
[08:31] <MestreLion> man, than his trouble is indeed deeper
[08:31] <TylerW> mestrelion: it is... but Im having trouble helping him figure out which one it is
[08:31] <TylerW> ohs: we've been over this... you need to mount it because as we found out in #vmware it doesn't get mounted automatically if its an sd card
[08:31] <MestreLion> TylerW: dmesg | grep usb
[08:31] <TylerW> thats the difference between hardware and virtualization
[08:31] <bennyp> sorry about the flaky connection
[08:31] <TylerW> ohs: dmesg | grep usb
[08:31] <bennyp> did i miss anything?
[08:32] <TylerW> it won't be picked up as usb because its an sdcard
[08:32] <MestreLion> bennyp: true, that is not the same thing... but it would save a couple GB's
[08:32] <TylerW> so dmesg | grep usb will return nothing
[08:32] <MestreLion> bennyp: 800MB LiveCD, 2GB casper, and * for /data
[08:32] <ejv> dmesg is a poor way to locate devices
[08:32] <ejv> why are you guys telling him that
[08:32] <bennyp> right, I wanted to know if i could 'roll my own' livecd from a full install
[08:32] <ejv> use lshw
[08:32] <TylerW> cat /proc/partitions
[08:32] <MestreLion> bennyp: check uck , Ubuntu Customization Kit
[08:33] <ohs> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# cat /proc/partitions
[08:33] <ohs> major minor  #blocks  name
[08:33] <ohs>    8        0   12582912 sda
[08:33] <ohs>    8        1   12002304 sda1
[08:33] <ohs>    8        2          1 sda2
[08:33] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <MestreLion> bennyp: it's a helpful tool for that
[08:33] <ohs>    8        5     577536 sda5
[08:33] <MestreLion> ejv: true, sorry
[08:33] <bennyp> MestreLion: ok i'll look into it… i'm charging the client for labour so it might not be worth their time
[08:33] <vipintruder> ejv: one moment please...
[08:33] <ejv> let's just rename this channel to #ohs clearly it's his
[08:33] <TylerW> lmao
[08:33] <TylerW> Ive given up, I tried helping for hours
[08:33] <ohs> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# cat /proc/partitions
[08:33] <ohs> major minor  #blocks  name
[08:33] <ohs>  8        0   12582912 sda
[08:33] <ohs>    8        1   12002304 sda1
[08:33] <ohs>    8        2          1 sda2
[08:33] <ohs>    8        5     577536 sda5
[08:33] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <afidegnum> hello good morningall,
[08:34] <MestreLion> bennyp: is this just a way for them to "try out Ubuntu with persistence"... permanentely?
[08:34] <ejv> vipintruder: there are no, "NOPASSWD" entries, if that's what you're looking for, it looks "normal" to me
[08:34] <afidegnum> is anyone familiar with Zentyal ?
[08:34] <bennyp> MestreLion: no this is meant to be their day to day OS on the machine
[08:34] <afidegnum> I am stucked somewhere and I need your assistance.
[08:34] <MestreLion> ohs: use a pastebin dude
[08:34] <bennyp> the hard drive is totalled, so i offered this solution
[08:34] <ohs> ok
[08:34] <ejv> ohs: apt-get install pastebinit
[08:34] <afidegnum> I want to install Zentyal remotely via ssh but I need ur help
[08:34] <ejv> then you can pipe to pastebinit ont he command line
[08:34] <MestreLion> bennyp: and what's wrong with an hdd install? :P
[08:34] <ejv> cat /proc/partitions | pastebinit
[08:35] <bennyp> MestreLion: they don't have an hdd :D :D :D
[08:35] <TylerW> long story short... it does not appear to be connected to the VM
[08:35] <bennyp> plus, this is wicked cool
[08:35] <ohs> this is the output when I typed the commands http://pastebin.com/c3GxmwMj
[08:35] <ejv> while you're at it, apt-get install lshw, then man lshw, learn how to use it
[08:35] <MestreLion> bennyp: and what are they using??? An Android phone? :P
[08:35] <ohs> the SD card is 4 GB
[08:36] <bennyp> toshiba nb 205
[08:36] <bennyp> the old hdd has 900+ bad sectors
[08:36] <MestreLion> bennyp: I've used this solution for my mother, when her HDD crashed... but, seriously, this is a 1-month situation, tops.. until they get a new HDD... an 8GB flash is not enough for longer use
[08:36] <TylerW> xit
[08:36] <TylerW> oops
[08:37] <bennyp> MestreLion: they only use it for browsing and email
[08:37] <bennyp> and the occasional doc
[08:37] <vipintruder> ejv:I think, you must to add your user to the sudoers file, for exaple: youruser    ALL=(ALL) ALL under root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:37] <ejv> vipintruder: it should only be necessary to place the user in the proper group, then they inherit the privilege
[08:37] <bennyp> ok time for class
[08:37] <bennyp> thanks again for the help
[08:38] <MestreLion> bennyp: it is still not enough, considering they may download music, videos, etc.. even browser cache can be an issue later
[08:38] <ejv> does someone, in one line, want to some up exactly what he was trying to do? im lost.
[08:39] <ohs> I would be glad if anyone can tell me how can I find the SD card that is insterted. the outputs are here http://pastebin.com/c3GxmwMj
[08:39] <ohs> what command should I type?
[08:39] <ohs> how can I find it?
[08:39] <MestreLion> ejv: he's using VMware in a windows 7 host and Ubuntu client vm. He wants his SD-card to be (auto-monted) in Ubuntu
[08:39] <player> hey, guys I really like the default font of the ubuntu 11.10, but I want to make a change, do you know how to change the default font of 11.10?
[08:39] <ejv> weird...
[08:39] <ejv> ohs: i already suggested lshw
[08:39] <ohs> I would appreciate for all advises
[08:39] <bennyp> i hear
[08:39] <ejv> ohs: lshw | pastebinit
[08:39] <karthick87> How to move all files and folders from one folder to another folder via terminal ?
[08:40] <MestreLion> karthick87: recursively?
[08:40] <ejv> karthick87: mv
[08:41] <MestreLion> karthick87: if there are no subfolders, simply use mv somedir/* anotherdir
[08:41] <ejv> recursively? recursion does not apply to the mv operation.
[08:41] <ejv> it's implied behavior.
[08:41] <ejv> you can't toggle something like that.
[08:41] <weeezes> I'm planing on buying a new graphics card, since Diablo 3 is relased soon. I'm happy using the Intel HD3000 with ubuntu, since I don't do any gaming with this. I'd use the Windows install only for playing. Is it possible to disble Ubuntu from using the new graphics card, maybe by just not installing any new drivers? Does it stick with the old graphics card then?
[08:42] <MestreLion> ejv: you can't move trees using mv either ejv
[08:42] <ejv> MestreLion: clarify
[08:43] <ohs> ejv: the output is here http://pastebin.com/kTqyFzex   but the whole output can not be seen because of the terminal character limitation
[08:43] <ejv> ohs: did you use pastebinit?
[08:43] <MestreLion> ejv: mv some/very/long/path/to/file anotherdir  will not work
[08:43] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/kTqyFzex
[08:43] <ohs> yes here
[08:43] <ejv> sigh
[08:44] <ejv> ohs: lshw -class storage | pastebinit
[08:44] <karthick87> MestreLion: Yes recursively
[08:44] <ejv> MestreLion: yes you can, I do it all the time. what version of the GNU toolchain are you using? lol
[08:45] <ejv> karthick87: man mv, it's all explained there
[08:45] <ohs> ejv: I typed ät http://pastebin.com/7z9Zg7Sf
[08:45] <ohs> it
[08:45] <MestreLion> ejv: will it mv file to anotherdir/file or anotherdir/very/long/path/to/file  ?
[08:46] <MestreLion> ohs: don't manually copy and paste to pastebin... use the bastebinit command as ejv suggested
[08:46] <MestreLion> pastebinit *
[08:46] <ejv> he did the second time
[08:46] <ohs> ok sorry I did not know
[08:46] <ohs> what it is
[08:46] <ejv> and it's not the output i was hoping for heh
[08:46] <MestreLion> ejv: he didn't, you can still see the command evocation
[08:47] <ejv> isn't that automatically prepended to the dump
[08:47] <MestreLion> ejv: nope... just the output itself
[08:47] <ejv> the result the second time is short
[08:47] <ejv> in any case, i don't see it
[08:48] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/drw8Ydk5
[08:48] <ohs> I did it correct this time
[08:48] <ejv> yea i don't see the device listed, what exactly is it?
[08:48] <ejv> brand, model, etc.
[08:49] <ohs> microSD HC 4GB Kingston SDC4/4GB
[08:49] <ohs> they are the things written on it
[08:50] <ejv> lspci -k | pastebinit
[08:50] <Defusal> good day everyone
[08:50] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/UemUHDQL
[08:51] <MestreLion> ejv: i'm trying lshw here... but it does not map controllers to the assigned /dev/sdX devices
[08:54] <ejv> mine does
[08:54] <Rookie407> can anyone tell me why i keep getting bash: permissions denied when i try to open android sdk and what it means?
[08:54] <Tm_T> Rookie407: the binary hasn't been set to be executable?
[08:54] <ejv> lshw provides everything, physical id, vendor, bus info, logical name, etc.
[08:55] <MestreLion> ohs: I have an idea... do you have Disk Utility installed? It will show all available storage devices, regardless if they are mounted or not
[08:55] <Rookie407> thats if i do a drag and drop of the file into the terminal if i try to type it and execute i get no such file or directory
[08:55] <Tm_T> Rookie407: chmod +x filename (where filename is the binary you are trying to run)
[08:55] <ejv> ohs: change the class
[08:55] <ohs> MestreLion: no, I installed the ubuntu 3 days ago
[08:55] <ejv> ohs: change the class to volume detection
[08:55] <MestreLion> ohs: install disk utility then
[08:56] <ejv> ohs: sudo lshw -class storage -class volume | pastebinit
[08:56] <Tm_T> Rookie407: when you are in the folder, "./filename" to execute it?
[08:56] <ejv> it should surface
[08:56] <Rookie407> Tm_T, it says chmod cannot access 'android': no such file or directory
[08:57] <ejv> ohs: sudo lshw -class storage -class volume -class disk | pastebinit
[08:57] <Tm_T> Rookie407: you are not in the folder where the file is?
[08:57] <ejv> add disk there too
[08:57] <ohs> ejv: root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo lshw -class storage -class volume | pastebinit
[08:57] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/9x5bzhAq
[08:57] <ejv> i edited the command, one more time buddy
[08:57] <ohs> oh sorry
[08:57] <shenra> hey guys.  i think i want to try out ubuntu but im not sure...
[08:57] <ohs> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo lshw -class storage -class volume -class disk | pastebinit
[08:57] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/9BYwW79g
[08:58] <ejv> shenra: flip a coin. heads yes, tails no.
[08:58] <shenra> have no coin ... i guess there is no answer
[08:58] <shenra> lol
[08:58] <ejv> do you have any object around you capable of a binary result?
[08:58] <shenra> its been a while since i tried ubuntu.
[08:59] <ejv> ohs: that's better, but i don't see anything besides your optical drives and primary disk
[08:59] <Rookie407> yeah this is confusing the hell outta me
[08:59] <ejv> ohs: this makes me wonder if your kernel doesn't have the proper support for this kingston SD card
[08:59] <Rookie407> not it wont let me get past the /home folder
[08:59] <ejv> or perhaps your SD card backplane isn't identified and/or supported
[09:00] <ejv> might be bugzilla worthy, *shrug*
[09:00] <MestreLion> ejv: we are not even sure if vmware is properly exposing the card, or HOW it is doing so
[09:01] <ejv> ahhh
[09:01] <ejv> yea that's a windows or vmware problem, not an ubuntu problem
[09:01] <Rookie407> Tm_T, thank you for your help after i finally figured out how to even get to the right folder typing ./(filename) worked =)
[09:02] <ejv> here i thought we were running vmware on a linux host
[09:02] <MestreLion> ejv ohs: SD cards are pretty standard, regardless of manufacturer... it's all about the card READER, which are usually USB/PCI internally
[09:02] <ohs> ejv: I get the SD card with a TI product, normally it should be working fine I guess I never seen any notice about it. this is the printscreen of my wmware http://i42.tinypic.com/2h6c36s.jpg
[09:02] <Rookie407> i been trying to figure this out for hours
[09:02] <shenra> hey guys what is a freenode channel with admins? i want to report someone to the server admins
[09:02] <MestreLion> [05:39]<MestreLion> ejv: he's using VMware in a windows 7 host and Ubuntu client vm. He wants his SD-card to be (auto-monted) in Ubuntu
[09:03] <ejv> shenra, chances are someone beat you to it, just /ignore them
[09:03] <ejv> MestreLion: right, didn't see that
[09:03] <ejv> ohs: this might sound... archaic, but why not use filezilla or any other SFTP client, and copy your files INTO your VM?
[09:04] <ejv> setup openssh-server on your VM, find out it's IP via ifconfig, and you're on your merry way
[09:04] <RealKillaz> Gents what happened to the sun-java6-jdk package?
[09:04] <ohs> I need to load an image to the SD card from here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
[09:04] <ejv> im sorry im out of ideas here lol
[09:05] <ohs> it gives instructions how to do it for linux
[09:05] <RealKillaz> I tried to add the archive.canonical.com in the sources lists
[09:05] <shenra> RealKillaz, it got replaced with openjdk i believe but there is a tutorial on how to do it.
[09:05] <RealKillaz> but still it is not there
[09:05] <ohs> that"s why I am trying to mount the SD card to ubuntu, then I will load the image
[09:05] <MestreLion> ohs: the more commands you paste, the more i'm sure this is a vmware issue... i mean... there's no device besides the ubuntu partions... it is not a matter of mounting, the SD card *device* is non-existant
[09:05] <shenra> RealKillaz, what do you mean still not there? were you able to install it?
[09:06] <ejv> yea this isn't an ubuntu problem, ubuntu only knows the resources that the Hypervisor "reports" to it
[09:06] <RealKillaz> shenra: I'n my previous installation of ubuntu 10.04 LTS I could
[09:06] <ejv> in this case an issue with VMware
[09:06] <ejv> honestly, dump vmware, and use virtualbox instead, much ebtter
[09:06] <MestreLion> ohs: vmware is not reporting the SD card to Ubuntu
[09:06] <ejv> s/ebtter/better/
[09:06] <RealKillaz> shenra: now suddenly the same ubuntu 10.04 LTS the package is gone
[09:07] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: Oracle terminated Java's binary agreement
[09:07] <damo22> ejv: what makes virtualbox better than vmware?
[09:07] <shenra> RealKillaz, follow http://www.gaggl.com/2011/10/installing-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[09:07] <RealKillaz> why didn't they leave it and remove it in the next LTS version?
[09:07] <MestreLion> damo22: it properly exposes SD cards in windows hosts to ubuntu vm's
[09:07] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: ask Oracle
[09:07] <ohs> ejv, MestreLion: thank you very very much for your help and time, I will download virtual box
[09:08] <damo22> is that it?
[09:08] <ejv> ohs, i've used vbox on both windows and ubuntu hosts, works great, and it's free-er than vmware
[09:08] <karim_> you known a soft equal to internet download manager in ubuntu please help me
[09:08] <MestreLion> ohs: maybe vmware CAN do that, and it's just a matter of properly setting it up... but, as Ubuntu is concerned, your card does not exist at all... vmware must expost it
[09:08] <ejv> 10 bucks says vbox nails it on the first try
[09:08] <ejv> ;)
[09:08] <MestreLion> ejv: i rase to 20 ;)
[09:08] <MestreLion> raise*
[09:09] <ejv> you're supposed to disagree wtih me
[09:09] <damo22> i thought 3d support is more complete in vmware
[09:09] <ejv> we can't agree lol
[09:09] <RealKillaz> MestreLion: what has the package in an OS has to do with Oracle? Ubuntu should just put it there let me decide if I would like to use it or not... or am I seeing it wrong?
[09:09] <MestreLion> ejv: nope, i'm a big fan of VirtualBox... never used vmware before
[09:09] <shenra> 3d support in vmware ended up working instantly in one of their updates for me
[09:09] <ejv> i used to work in an esx environment
[09:09] <MestreLion> ejv: and not willing to since it looks so painful to set up ;)
[09:10] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: Ubuntu is not ALLOWED to do so anymore
[09:10] <ejv> enterprise environments use it because of SLA :)
[09:10] <damo22> i will change to virtual box if i can make it boot from usb stick
[09:10] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: Oracle terminated it's java license that allowed Ubuntu to host binary java files
[09:11] <ejv> how about you do your homework, and check vbox trac, before jumping in? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker
[09:11] <MestreLion> damo22: so change... VB do that
[09:12] <damo22> how?
[09:12] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: a "package in an OS" has *everything* do do with it if the distro is not allowed to host java binaries anymore
[09:12] <shenra> MastreLion... thats kind of funny they do claim to support the open source idea but then completely say on their website that they will use opensource developments and add their own "propietary" stuff to finalize java7
[09:13] <MestreLion> shenra: "they" who?
[09:13] <shenra> oracle
[09:13] <shenra> i was reading different things about their involvment with openjdk
[09:13] <MestreLion> and you believed their press releases about supporting FOSS ?
[09:13] <ejv> this is getting rather offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wanna keep discussing it
[09:15] <MestreLion> shenra: until Oracle actually publishes OpenJDK as the RI, true "support" is a joke
[09:15] <RealKillaz> MestreLion: ok
[09:15] <MestreLion> but I agree with ejv , this is off-tipoc
[09:15] <MestreLion> bottom line is: Ubuntu was forced by Oracle to remove java binaries from repos
[09:16] <MestreLion> because Oracle terminated the license that allowed it
[09:16] <COTOHA> ÊÓ
[09:16] <MestreLion> Ubuntu *could* still host old versions, but security serious flaws were discovered in them
[09:17] <st1> how can I update manual for a utility?
[09:17] <MestreLion> and thus it was decided to remove the package, new and older versions
[09:18] <MestreLion> so, for java in Ubuntu, use either the default and recommended OpenJDK , or download and install from Oracle website yourself
[09:19] <st1> that's odd, after I used two new option in rtcwake, those two appears in man page
[09:20] <shenra> hey whats the best way to transfer over 40 GB of data from windows to Ubuntu by completely replacing windows?
[09:21] <SadPanda> shenra: Are you saying you have data on your windows system that you want to migrate to linux?
[09:21] <shenra> yes.
[09:21] <SadPanda> Back it up, install linux, copy it over.
[09:22] <shenra> i have nothing to back it up to its that big... the biggest storage device i have is 4GB usb
[09:22] <Nepherius> you could use some online storage
[09:23] <SadPanda> shenra: Either online storage as Nepherius suggested, or you'd have to shrink the windows partition, install linux on the free space, copy over your windows data, then repartition the rest of the drive.  But, you should backup before doing that.  :)
[09:23] <MestreLion> SadPanda: install ubuntu, reboot, you will be able to copy files over... then delete windows partition ;)
[09:23] <min_> всем привет!
[09:24] <shenra> ive done that before but the resize took like over an hour.
[09:24] <SadPanda> MestreLion: Isn't that what I just said?
[09:24] <MestreLion> shenra: for big hdds, that's the time it takes really
[09:24] <SadPanda> shenra: There really isn't a magical solution to do it instantly and 100% safely.
[09:24] <MestreLion> SadPanda: in a nutshell, yes
[09:25] <SadPanda> MestreLion: I'm curious, why tell me then?  lol
[09:25] <MestreLion> shenra: how large is your hdd ?
[09:25] <shenra> 500 GB
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> loose the windows
[09:26] <MestreLion> shenra: assuming your partitition is almost full, 1h for copying and resizng and everything is quite fast...
[09:26] <Znow> my top bar wont show, how can I get it to show static, like in the older versions of ubuntu?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you mean like gnome?
[09:27] <Znow> lotuspsychje: yeah I guess
[09:27] <MestreLion> ServerSage: actually, there is... it's called "use a data partiton in windows instead of saving everything to C:\users"  :P
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Znow: unity is now default, there's only left side bar
[09:27] <Znow> lotuspsychje: its so crappy, really
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !unity
[09:27] <Znow> lotuspsychje: cant find the settings I need anymore
[09:28] <Nepherius> on login window you can choose gnome classic
[09:28] <Znow> !notunity
[09:28] <MestreLion> Znow: there are other great distros out there if you don't like Unity
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you could try install gnome-shell or lubuntu
[09:28] <Znow> Nepherius: can I? nice, 2 sec
[09:28] <ServerSage> MestreLion: That is something you'd have to do from the start.  I was referring to the original question.
[09:28] <Znow> MestreLion: Erhh okay, I like ubuntu, not unity
[09:28] <MestreLion> people complain so heavily about Unity as if anyone was forcing them to use it
[09:29] <MestreLion> Znow: Use Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, still lots of choices in the Ubuntu family
[09:29] <fidel> MestreLion: i guess several ppl dont even know they arent forced to use it ;)
[09:29] <fidel> consider that as well hehe
[09:29] <Znow> MestreLion: no thanks, ill use ubuntu...
[09:29] <shenra> thats been what i siad, people forget that you can "chage" the look-n-feel of linux :/
[09:29] <llutz_> there are dozens of windowmanager/DEs available, why should one use a different distro just because one dislike unity?
[09:29] <MestreLion> ServerSage: true, but that is not Ubuntu's fault
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Znow: once u learn to know unity its very easy
[09:30] <thevinci>  how do i install third party drivers from the command line in ubuntu server?  I need my broadcom wireless driver to work
[09:30] <ServerSage> MestreLion: Never said or implied it was.  :/
[09:30] <Znow> Nepherius: I can choose Ubuntu 2d, nothing else
[09:30] <Znow> lotuspsychje: probably, but I cant seem to find the advanced settings....
[09:30] <Nepherius> strange, I'm sure i had the option to choose gnome classic :)
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Znow: what do you need?
[09:31] <Znow> lotuspsychje: the advanced settings... for the system... that I could find in the top bar
[09:31] <thevinci> anyone?
[09:31] <thevinci>  how do i install third party drivers from the command line in ubuntu  server? I need my broadcom wireless driver to work
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you can find it all in the ubuntu icon left upper corner
[09:32] <Znow> lotuspsychje: well, I still want my top bar.... not the fancy Unity stuff
[09:32] <Nepherius> unity is a lot better than gnome :)
[09:32] <MestreLion> thevinci: does it need to be crom command line?
[09:33] <Nepherius> just install gnome as someone suggested
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | Znow
[09:33] <Znow> And now when Ive isntalled Samba, and want to run it, it starts but then shuts down?
[09:33] <Znow> lotuspsychje: ive installed that
[09:33] <MestreLion> "run" samba? samba is a service, not an app
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you can tweak some settings on the unity plugin there
[09:33] <Rookie407> is it possible to partition a hardrive with say partition magic then move all the files from the drive i have now with the linux /home and what not on it to said parted drive and it still work proporly or would i have to reinstall linux?
[09:34] <Znow> MestreLion: errh it appears as a app....
[09:34] <MestreLion> Znow: you mean system-config-samba ?
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> !spam
[09:35] <Znow> MestreLion: probably.. its just called Samba - anyhow, do I need a static ip address for my ubuntu vm, for windows to map a network drive?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> hmmm where to report a spam
[09:35] <Nepherius> !maps
[09:35] <Rookie407> anyone?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: #ubuntu-ops
[09:35] <MestreLion> Rookie407: you can, but i suggest using gparted / dd for that
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> tnx jordan
[09:35] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: You're welcome.
[09:35] <Znow> "Share files over the netwrork" - "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" ......
[09:35] <Znow> wtf
[09:36] <Rookie407> k and is there any files that are a NEED to stay on the original drive linux was installed to?
[09:36] <MestreLion> Rookie407: check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47209
[09:36] <MestreLion> Znow: so install the required packages
[09:36] <MestreLion> Znow: samba is not installed by default, thanks god :P
[09:36] <Znow> MestreLion: which are?! dont know their names
[09:37] <MestreLion> Znow: doesn't it present a "do it" button for that?
[09:37] <akashm1990> I'm running Ubuntu on a laptop. The System monitor shows CPU usage in excess of 50% on idle, but the processes tab shows about 20-30% at max. How can I find out where the excess is going? Graph: http://snag.gy/IQlh5.jpg process manager:http://snag.gy/84Lbw.jpg
[09:38] <MestreLion> Rookie407: don't you want to clone the old hdd to the new one?
[09:39] <MestreLion> Znow: you can install Samba using the Software Manager... but IIRC this install is auto-triggered when you try to share folders
[09:39] <shenra> Okay another question... can Ubuntu easily share a printer on a network with a Windows netbook?
[09:40] <MestreLion> Nepherius: GoogleEarth is (at least was) not Qt, but embedded wine
[09:41] <MestreLion> shenra: yes, and it usually finds and installs the available network printers much easier than windows
[09:43] <shenra> ok... i have anoter windows machine that im going to just put ubuntu on later.
[09:46] <MestreLion> shenra: just make sure Samba is installed in both and you'll be fine
[09:46] <blizzkid> Barzogh:
[09:48] <llutz_> shenra: theres no need for samba to share printers. just configure cups to be accessible from network and add your printer in windows as network-printer, using "http://yourlinuxmachine:631/printers/yourprintername
[09:51] <thevinci> MestreLion: i don't know what crom command line is
[09:51] <MestreLion> crom or cron?
[09:52] <thevinci> I've just installed ubuntu server on my old laptop and want to hook it up to my wireless internet, but i need the broadcom driver
[09:52] <thevinci> whatever you said before...
[09:52] <thevinci> I'm just using the command line that ubuntu server starts in\
[09:52] <MestreLion> thevinci: it was a typo... crom = from*
[09:53] <thevinci> ahh!
[09:53] <thevinci> haha
[09:53] <thevinci> yes
[09:53] <thevinci> it should be from command line, i haven't installed a GUI for my server
[09:53] <thevinci> would rather not
[09:53] <MestreLion> thevinci: i have no idea... maybe jockey has a command line?
[09:54] <MestreLion> thevinci: jockey is the app that installs proprietary drivers easily and pain-free... check to see if there is a similar command-line tool for that
[09:55] <MestreLion> thevinci: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22118
[09:55] <WanderingEnder> What's the generally accepted method for a headless Ubuntu Desktop?
[09:55] <WanderingEnder> VNC or NX? Clients would be Windows 7.
[09:56] <Dudir> NX is a lot faster
[09:57] <Aciid> NX
[09:57] <fowl> Can someone please help, I want to add to menu.lst but I don't have one.. I have some crazy grub.cfg that's a shell script
[09:57] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: rcp is also an option
[09:57] <jrib> !grub | fowl
[09:58] <WanderingEnder> !rcp
[09:58] <WanderingEnder> (Not familiar with RCP. Is that Windows Remote Desktop Connection?)
[09:58] <MestreLion> are people still struggling with grub1's menu.lst after almost 3 years of grub2 adoptance ?
[09:58] <MestreLion> yes WanderingEnder... there are servers for Ubuntu
[09:58] <fowl> jrib: thanks
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Do they work well, MestreLion?
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Last time I tried one, it was RDP to VNC and slow as sin.
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Sin is not very fast, you see.
[09:59] <fowl> MestreLion: im going to downgrade when i get the chance
[09:59] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: it is not a native unix technology, but yes, works quite well...
[10:00] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: and if your main concern is access from windows clients, well... they all have remote desktop out-of-the-box
[10:00] <WanderingEnder> Do you have a suggestion for a RDP server in Ubuntu repo?
[10:00] <Dudir> xrdp
[10:00] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: i use xrdp
[10:00] <WanderingEnder> Looking at xrdp, then. Thanks.
[10:01] <Dudir> and you could use X11rdp if you don want it to use vnc
[10:01] <MestreLion> fowl: and go back to manually adding OSes instead of auto-scanning? Good luck :P
[10:01] <WanderingEnder> When I used xdrp before, it was kinda slow to refresh, and #Ubuntu blamed it on the VNC.
[10:03] <fowl> MestreLion: yes, because now i'd like to add to the list and instead of being able to just edit it i have to do some crazy stuff
[10:03] <Dudir> I found it sluggish as well. I tried it with X11rdp, but haven't done proper testing to see if it was much faster
[10:03] <Dudir> The only machines I use to remotely connect with have nx clients installed, so was to lazy to try :p
[10:04] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: as I've said, it is not native unix protocol, so it lacks some of the more recent RDPv6 (or v5?) features
[10:04] <WanderingEnder> Actually, I may just use a KVM.
[10:05] <MestreLion> fowl: add what? update-grub already scans all drives for you
[10:06] <MestreLion> fowl: you can always disable probing by chmod +x the probing scripts
[10:06] <llutz_> fowl: generate a 40_costom once and you'll be fine with grub2
[10:06] <llutz_> 40_custom*
[10:06] <MestreLion> fowl: you can even disable them all and use 40_custom of your own, manually, just like old grub times :P
[10:07] <fowl> man what a pain in the ass
[10:07] <llutz_> fowl: just call it grub2
[10:08] <MestreLion> fowl: editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom in grub2 is just like editing /boot/gtub/menu.lst, I fail to see why is that harder
[10:09] <warddr> Hello, I am looking for a very well supported usb wireless adapter, anyone any advise?
[10:10] <MestreLion> warddr: Antheros chipsets have a very good out-of-the-box support
[10:10] <MestreLion> Atheros*
[10:10] <MestreLion> while most broadcom ones require proprietary firmware
[10:13] <Jordan_U> !hcl | warddr
[10:13] <Jordan_U> warddr: Also, while there are well supported USB wireless dongles, an internal wireless card is a much better bet if it's an option.
[10:14] <MestreLion> that's true... much more stable and better range than dongles.. perhaps faster too
[10:14] <warddr> jordan, I have one in my notebook, but for some reason if I close my notebook (don't go in standby) the connection is lost, and I have to reboot before I can make a connection again
[10:15] <Jordan_U> warddr: Have you filed a bug report about this?
[10:15] <warddr> no
[10:16] <Jordan_U> warddr: Please do.
[10:16] <Jordan_U> !bug | warddr
[10:16] <warddr> It is a RTL8188CE , but I have to do some tests on windows to see if it's hardware or software
[10:17] <tozzi> Wow, so many people
[10:17] <tozzi> :>
[10:18] <tofugoat> morning
[10:18] <warddr> It's a known problem appearantly:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=132997
[10:18] <livtyler> "ssh user@work.example.org -L 10000:172.16.10.10:22 -g" keeps me just listening in 127.0.0.1 and not globally like it should
[10:18] <livtyler> any hints on this?
[10:19] <josep> hello
[10:19] <tofugoat> i have a silly question, i am installing ubuntu and the installer has detected a mounted partition....i wasnt aware i had one and so shall i say yay or nay?
[10:20] <_nik2909> hello guys, how can i blacklist a compiled-in linux driver?
[10:20] <monohedron> tofugoat, what is the question
[10:20] <livtyler> !blacklist
[10:20] <tofugoat> i am installing ubuntu and the installer has detected a mounted partition....i wasnt aware i had one and so shall i say yay or nay?
[10:21] <_nik2909> yeah, but its not a module
[10:21] <monohedron> what question is the installer asking
[10:21] <livtyler> _nik2909: a driver is a module
[10:22] <_nik2909> but its compiled into the kernel by me
[10:22] <[Si]> livtyler try ssh user@work.example.org -L *:10000:172.16.10.22
[10:22] <tofugoat> ...has detected the following disc has a mounted particion dev sda dev sdc, do you want the installer to try to unmount....
[10:22] <[Si]> livtyler :22 at the end
[10:22] <tofugoat> (gosh i feel so silly asking such a  basic thing)
[10:23] <bdi> Is it possible to see what process is occupying  the connected USB device?
[10:23] <livtyler> tofugoat: is it a laptop netbook?, make sure it is not its recovery partition
[10:24] <shansoldmac> anyone know how to get dial up working?
[10:24] <monohedron> or any other partition you want to keep
[10:24] <monohedron> even if you unmount them you don't HAVE to use them, thats up to you in the next step
[10:24] <tofugoat> livtyler, yes its a laptop, and i see, aha, a recovery partition. hm, well, i had not ever noticed that there is one.
[10:25] <tofugoat> so if i say leave partition mounted, will it still all work?
[10:25] <monohedron> it just means they become available for you to mess with
[10:25] <monohedron> tofugoat, it's not that simple. it also depends whether and where you install your bootloader but the partitions will be spared
[10:26] <tofugoat> oh no :o difficulties!!!
[10:26] <warddr> Jordan_U, I'm going to try to compile the newest driver myself, and give that a try. If that works I can immediately provide a solution in the bug report I'll create :D
[10:27] <diverdude> Is it possible to see what process is occupying  the connected USB device?
[10:27] <_nik2909> livtyler: i compiled a custom kernel and included a driver into it (not as a module), now how can i prevent this driver from beeing loaded ?
[10:27] <shansoldmac> diverdude: yes
[10:27] <tofugoat> and if i leave ubuntu on the stick, boot from there, can i still install compiz and all that?
[10:28] <shansoldmac> diverdude: there is a command... I think the cli will hint at it when you try to umount it
[10:28] <monohedron> well at least for the ongoing session
[10:28] <monohedron> it may not be persistent though
[10:28] <diverdude> shansoldmac: its because i have a camera connected, and when i run a program to use the camera it says the device is already in use
[10:29] <mydogsnameisrudy> tofugoat: what is it that your trying to do ? dual boot?
[10:29] <diverdude> shansoldmac: its connected via usb
[10:29] <tofugoat> mydog yes
[10:29] <diverdude> shansoldmac: but i have no idea what process is occupying
[10:29] <mydogsnameisrudy> and it has windows on it?
[10:29] <llutz_> diverdude: lsof /dev/whatever
[10:29] <shansoldmac> diverdude: mayne it's mounted as a mass storage device?
[10:29] <shansoldmac> *maybe
[10:29] <tofugoat> mydog, yes it has. and ubuntu recognises all and everything. its w7
[10:30] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok you need to go into windows 7 see how many partitions it has now ... if there are 4 you will need to remove one of them . but becareful what you do there
[10:30] <monohedron> tofugoat, then you shouldn't have any issues assuming you have free space on the disk
[10:31] <livtyler> _nik2909: if it's compiled into the kernel there's not much to do, try sysctl -a | grep your_driver_name, if it shows something, then you can use sysctl.conf
[10:31] <monohedron> ubuntu will during the installation probe for other OS and add them to the bootloader
[10:31] <_nik2909> livtyler: i allready tried that, there are no parameters for the driver (r8169)
[10:32] <tofugoat> plenty of space on the harddrive, i wasnt aware there are partitions, so i will go and check deeper then see whats what , maybe use wobi?
[10:32] <_nik2909> livtyler: so i have to recompile the kernel :(
[10:32] <monohedron> if you have the space or can make it just install ubuntu and you are good
[10:32] <tofugoat> aha monohedron. but as i said it asks if i want to unmount the partition (the one i didnt know i had, )
[10:33] <livtyler> _nik2909: you can try a very basic modprobe -r in rc.local and then modprobe the_new_driver
[10:33] <mydogsnameisrudy> you should google dual boot window7 and ubuntu
[10:33] <Tiktalik> I'm trying to get Steam to run, but I get the following error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:34] <Tiktalik> Any clue on what I can do to fix this?
[10:34] <tofugoat> yes, mydog, you are right, i will do that now. thanks for your help gys. :)
[10:34] <tofugoat> guys
[10:34] <mydogsnameisrudy> and dont delete any partitions untill you know what they are
[10:34] <monohedron> tofugoat, it doesn't matter where you get the free space from as long as you have it, you don't have to resize existing partition if there is still enough free space on that disk
[10:34] <tofugoat> thanks, i wont
[10:35] <_nik2909> livtyler: modprobe -r r8169 doesnt work, because the driver is not a loadable kernel module
[10:35] <tofugoat> ok monohedron.. i think i will practice on my old laptop and then if anything goes wrong i have learned something and i can just reformat. i WILL get theer
[10:35] <tofugoat> there
[10:35] <monohedron> tofugoat,  well i did a resize with no problems at all on a win7 machine
[10:35] <livtyler> _nik2909: have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661489
[10:36] <monohedron> but i can't know what the state your laptop is in
[10:36] <root> ...
[10:37] <tofugoat> true monohedron. well, i am confident i can do it, i just do some more research. thanks again
[10:37] <monohedron> tofugoat, your welcome
[10:37] <tofugoat> :-)
[10:37] <[Si]> tofugoat have fun with the old laptop :) nice to have something that you can trash while learning things :)
[10:38] <_nik2909> livtyler: it would work if I had compiled the r8169 driver as a loadable kernel module, however I compiled the driver into the kernel.
[10:39] <livtyler> _nik2909: then you know what to do next :´(
[10:39] <moska> who can tell me what is the deafult direction of mailx ?
[10:39] <llutz_> moska: direction?
[10:40] <_nik2909> livtyler: so my idea was to tell the kernel by means of a boot parameter, something like "blacklist_compiled_in_drivers = r8169" and then load another driver which is a module by modprobe
[10:40] <karamba> ban me please
[10:40] <[Si]> moska which mailx
[10:40] <moska> llutz: ~$ mail
[10:40] <moska> Non-null variable name required
[10:40] <moska> No mail for lolkamea
[10:40] <karamba> but no kick
[10:40] <moska> [Si]: heirloom-mailx
[10:41] <livtyler> _nik2909: yay, that sounds like a plan, go ahead
[10:41] <_nik2909> livtyler: there is not such boot parameter :(
[10:41] <llutz_> moska: idk what you really want to know. mail gets mail from /var/mail/user and sends mail to localhost:25
[10:42] <karamba> BAN me please but dont kick
[10:43] <livtyler> _nik2909: at grub in the kernel line I think there's disablemodules=driver1,driver2 but I don't know if it still works with grub2
[10:43] <eyveer> how to execute .sh file from other directory? current directory is ~/a/ and script is in ~/a/b/c/d/asd.sh
[10:43] <llutz_> eyveer: sh path/to/your/scrpt.sh
[10:43] <[Si]> moska what does hostname -f say?
[10:43] <_nik2909> livtyler: I'll try right now
[10:43] <eyveer> llutz_ heh so obvious ;) thanks
[10:43] <moska> llutz: i installed the getmail4, i would like to use mail to watch mail,my english is bad,sorry
[10:45] <debianer> hello everyone
[10:45] <_nik2909> livtyler: kernel still loaded the driver :( on to recompiling
[10:45] <livtyler> _nik2909: :(
[10:45] <moska> [Si]: no mail for lolkamea
[10:45] <llutz_> moska: mail -f yourmbox
[10:46] <moska> llutz: i try it
[10:46] <debianer> could i plz ask a question?
[10:46] <debianer> who can help me?
[10:46] <llutz_> !ask | debianer
[10:46] <Tiktalik> I'm trying to get steam to run
[10:46] <Tiktalik> Except it's telling me it can't find libGL.so.1
[10:47] <[Si]> moska the "Non-null variable name required" error I think is due to the host not being set. please run in a terminal hostname -f
[10:47] <Tiktalik> I get this error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:47] <debianer> Is it possible to make a debian or ubuntu repository from a DVD set?
[10:48] <moska> llutz: lolkamea@lolkamea-1011PX:~$ mail -f .getmail/mail/new
[10:48] <moska> .getmail/mail/new: is a directory
[10:48] <llutz_> moska: iirc mailx only works with mbox, not mdir
[10:48] <karamba> FUCK linux/unix only windows!
[10:48] <_nik2909> karamba: lol
[10:49]  * shenra notices we win
[10:49] <_nik2909> livtyler: it worked, recompiled the kernel w/o the r8169 driver and now the r8168 loaded kernel module has taken over
[10:49] <Tiktalik> Hey, can someone help me with my driver problem? I'm trying to get steam to run, but it can't find libGL.so.1
[10:49] <livtyler> !yay | _nik2909
[10:50] <moska> llutz: how to fix it ?
[10:51] <llutz_> moska: read getmail4 documentation, i don't know about it. and pls answer [Si] question
[10:51] <moska> llutz: thx
[10:52] <moska> [Si]: my english is bad ,sorry
[10:52] <jorgesuarez_> I can't define an action in policykit for upstart on 10.04, can someone help me? I detail this on http://askubuntu.com/questions/115052/define-a-policykit-action-for-upstart maybe some help debugging? I don't know where to start
[10:53] <moska> [Si]: i don't configura  .mailrc
[10:53] <moska> [Si]: i don't set .mailrc
[10:53] <M1L0> hi all
[10:54] <[Si]> Tiktalik seems to be a known issue with the current steam client, if you look at the winehq page for steam there are lots of people talking about it.
[10:54] <M1L0> some people rhr?
[10:54] <[Si]> moska run hostname -f
[10:55] <M1L0> maybe some speak spqnish?
[10:55] <moska> [Si]: what does it mean 'hostname' ? my user name ?
[10:55] <seroquel> does anyone know if it is possible to change the icon that appears when you change your volume on ubuntu?
[10:56] <[Si]> in a terminal just type hostname -f
[10:57] <moska> [Si]: lolkamea@lolkamea-1011PX:~$ hostname -f
[10:57] <moska> lolkamea-1011PX
[10:57] <[Si]> moska your problem is not what I thought it was :(
[10:58] <ardian> Hello, my laptop fan is making too much noise even nothing is open, im on ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[10:59] <moska> [Si]: anyway ,thx
[11:01] <Fudge> hi, how do you kill a pid that wont die, i am root and kill -9 pid doesnt kill it
[11:02] <llutz_> Fudge: its a zombie?
[11:02] <Fudge> im not sure how to tell which pids are, there are two
[11:02] <sacarlson> Fudge: might try killall -9 procname
[11:02] <Fudge> on 1 actually
[11:02] <Fudge> its Xorg
[11:03] <Defusal> hi everyone
[11:03] <sacarlson> Fudge: oh and if it's something like network-manager it will auto restart itself from some cron or some other proc
[11:03] <Defusal> i can't get /etc/sudoers to work for allowing commands without a password, can someone please help?
[11:03] <Defusal> i followed a tutorial but it doesn't work
[11:03] <Fudge> sacarlson  its Xorg
[11:03] <Fudge> 100% cpu, having to ssh to try and fix
[11:04] <rileyp> Fudge ps -a
[11:04] <llutz_> Fudge: sudo pkill -9 X
[11:04] <karamba> !rpm-fusion
[11:05] <rileyp> Fudge: man ps
[11:05] <Fudge> llutz_  tried that, it just wont die
[11:05] <sacarlson> Defusal: this is what I found so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19236;  I can look at my own examples
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  having to use the password is not without reason, better not change or disable it
[11:06] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, i didn't ask for advice
[11:06] <Defusal> i need a script to be able to run things with super user
[11:06] <Defusal> if you have a better way, by all means let me know
[11:06] <Ben64> what are you trying to do
[11:06] <Defusal> but i do not think there is one
[11:06] <Fudge> rileyp  ps -a shows ssh screen bash but not xorg
[11:07] <geirha> How to configure sudo is more of an OS question. Definitely not bash.
[11:07] <Defusal> Ben64, i need to run various things spawned by a non-root process including useradd (super user) and spawning things as other users (non super user)
[11:08] <Defusal> as far as i know, using sudoers is the best way to do this
[11:08] <rileyp> Defusal: i need a script to be able to run things with super user  what needs to run as su
[11:08] <Ben64> Defusal: thats very unspecific
[11:08] <Fudge> rileyp  25559 tty12    00:25:16 Xorg
[11:08] <Defusal> rileyp, read up i just explained
[11:08] <Fudge> does kill pkill etc have a verbose flag?
[11:09] <Defusal> Ben64, what part do you not understand?
 Defusal: thats very unspecific
[11:09] <Defusal> i have a platform that does not run as root
[11:09] <[Si]> Fudge try stopping lightdm (sudo service lightdm stop)
[11:09] <Defusal> it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users
[11:09] <rileyp> Defusal:  why not su -c
[11:09] <Oer> Defusal, what tutorial are you following ?
[11:09] <Defusal> i cannot be any more clear
[11:09] <Ben64> why not run it with root's crontab
[11:10] <Defusal> Oer, im not sure, i did it yesterday and assumed it worked, but my sudo password was obviously cached
[11:10] <rileyp> and edit sudoers like you say on those programs so no password is required
[11:10] <Defusal> Ben64, because that is not what i need to do.
[11:10] <geirha> Defusal: We can help you with the script, but if sudo isn't working, as your OS channel.
[11:10] <Ben64> removing sudo password is a big security hole
[11:10] <Ben64> Defusal: well you aren't giving any details
[11:10] <Oer> Defusal, .. not sure .. why?
[11:10] <Defusal> rileyp, sudo -i -u should be better than sudo su -c
[11:11] <sacarlson> add a line like this to /etc/sudoers;  defusal ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[11:11] <Fudge> si it was started with startx
[11:11] <Defusal> sacarlson, i don't want to unrestrict it completely...
[11:11] <rileyp> sacarlson:  tes and put at at the bottom
[11:11] <Ben64> !details | Defusal
[11:11] <rileyp> thats a yes
[11:12] <Defusal> this is the line that does not work: admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/admin/script/sudo.rb
[11:12] <Defusal> any ideas why?
[11:12] <keber> www.hot.ee/keber/satan.JPG
[11:12] <[Si]> Fudge does switching to the vt and doing ctrl-alt-backspace kill it?
[11:12] <ikonia> define does not work
[11:12] <mozilla92> 8-)
[11:12] <Oer> Defusal, all you need is a root-account, witch is unfortunatly disabled.
[11:13] <Fudge> si i cant use the machine
[11:13] <Ben64> root is not disabled
[11:13] <Fudge> else would control C at the console i started
[11:13] <Defusal> Ben64, i explained quite clearly my use case and told you that if you know of a better way to accomplish exactly what i said, then give it to me
[11:13] <Ben64> Defusal: you did not explain clearly at all
[11:13] <Defusal> ...
[11:14] <geirha> Defusal: Oops, sorry for confusing you, I was sure this was #bash :/  anyway, you run this script as a user named admin?
[11:14] <ikonia> Defusal: what are you trying to actually do ?
[11:14] <Defusal> yeah ok i'll go to #bash, thanks anyway
[11:14] <Fudge> perhaps I can find a Xorg pidfile to delete?
[11:14] <Defusal> ikonia: as i said twice to Ben64, i have a platform that does not run as root. it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users
[11:15] <sacarlson> defusal ALL=NOPASSWD: /home/admin/script/sudo.rb	 		
[11:15] <Ben64> Defusal: you keep saying that, and i keep saying that is not very specific
[11:15] <Defusal> so i created a sudo script that limits what it can do, and made a sudoers exception for it
[11:15] <Defusal> but that did not work
[11:15] <livtyler> I have followed the steps to ssh without password(.ssh/authorized_keys) but it still asks me to input password, could you help me troubleshoot?
[11:15] <Defusal> come to think of it
[11:15] <ikonia> Defusal: platform that does not run as root ? is this ubuntu
[11:15] <Defusal> geirha, sudo is not bash.
[11:15] <jrib> Defusal: instead of "did not work" say exactly what you did and what the result was please
[11:15] <Defusal> jrib, it asks for the password?
[11:15] <ikonia> Defusal: are you running ubuntu
[11:16] <jrib> Defusal: this is half of what I asked :?
[11:16] <geirha> Defusal: Indeed, hence sorry for the confusion.
[11:16] <Defusal> ikonia, obviously...
[11:16] <rileyp> ikonia is on the money....
[11:16] <Defusal> why the hell would i be here otherwise
[11:16] <ikonia> Defusal: not obvious as you said "I have an paltform not run as root" which doens't say it's ubuntu
[11:16] <rileyp> well then you can run as root but its unsafe
[11:16] <geirha> Defusal: Anyway, the user that should run this script is named "admin"?
[11:16] <Defusal> goodness, i always feel like im getting harassesed in this channel
[11:16] <Fudge> maybe you guys can spell it out instead of gettin g frustrated
[11:17] <Defusal> i think its time to start using more generic linux channels
[11:17] <bazhang> Fudge, whats the issue
[11:17] <Ben64> livtyler: are you the real Liv Tyler? and often times you need to restart the ssh daemon to have the keys take effect
[11:17] <rileyp> Defusal: you are asking for it with the  "I have an paltform not run as root"
[11:17] <mozilla92> hey everybody!
[11:17] <Fudge> bazhang  with what mate?
[11:17] <Defusal> ikonia: by platform, i mean application.
[11:17] <ikonia> Defusal: if you ask questions clearly - people will answer clearly
[11:17] <ikonia> Defusal: right, so again, explaining this clearly and we'll work it out
[11:17] <ikonia> Defusal: so what's the end goal ?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  you always want the most improbable and far-fetched things
[11:17] <Defusal> geirha: correct, the application spawning the sudo.rb script is run as user 'admin'
[11:18] <bazhang> Fudge, thought you were asking for assistance, my mistake
[11:18] <[Si]> livtyler take a look at /var/log/syslog after the login attempt, it may point at a permissions issue with the .authorized_keys file.
[11:18] <Fudge> bazhang  oh i am trying to kill ap id yes, think i may have to reboot but i dont want to
[11:18] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, that is my daily life, either help me, or leave me alone :O(
[11:18] <indistylo> Encoutntering installation error in asterisk , http://pastebin.com/iXsDND5t
[11:18] <Defusal> i have enough stuggling and time wasting as is, as i always seem to require the edge case
[11:18] <DrewMig> Hi everyone
[11:18] <Defusal> but none the less, i have to make teh best of it
[11:18] <geirha> Defusal: Ok, make sure that line is at the bottom of /etc/sudoers, below the one giving the admin group privileges to use sudo.
[11:18] <livtyler> Ben64: yes, I'm Liv Tyler, and I have restarted many times and no joy 'til now
[11:19] <Defusal> ikonia, i explained carefully at the beginning
[11:19] <geirha> Defusal: The order of the rules matter
[11:19] <livtyler> [Si]: will look into that right now
[11:19] <Fudge> bazhang  the prob is i started kde from tty4 startx after writing a .xinitrc and the Xorg pid 25559 will not die, i am having to ssh to the box as its using 100% cpu, kill -9 25559 pkill -9 X is not working, I am root #
[11:19] <Defusal> ikonia,  it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users
[11:19] <ikonia> Defusal: I've not seen that so I'm asking you to explain to me now
[11:19] <ikonia> Defusal: ok, so that will be done from within the script, how are you doing that within the script ?
[11:19] <Defusal> geirha, it is :(
[11:19] <Fudge> Defusal  are you using sudo in your script?
[11:20] <Defusal> ikonia, i am starting the script with sudo
[11:20] <Defusal> not starting sudo from the script
[11:20] <ikonia> Defusal: ok - that's just running the script as root, that's not spawning any processes, so how are you spawning processes from within the script
[11:20] <Defusal> ikonia, no
[11:20] <livtyler> [Si]: I just have pam session messages, no authorized_keys concerned lines
[11:20] <ikonia> Defusal: can we see the script ? is that acceptable ?
[11:20] <mozilla92> please advise me audio player which good works with internet radio!
[11:21] <rileyp> Defusal:  why not make root the owner of the script and let the normal user run it
[11:21] <Ben64> livtyler: you have the public key in ~/.ssh/ on the client, and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server?
[11:21] <Fudge> bazhang  ideas>
[11:21] <[Si]> livtyler just to cover the basics, you created the .ssh/authorized_keys file is on the server and it has your id_pub key in it?
[11:21] <rileyp> then it wil have root permissions
[11:22] <SuRock> Hello, world!
[11:22] <DrewMig> Hello SuRock
[11:22] <Defusal> ikonia, its a chain of scripts, some of which the command is built up very dynamically
[11:22] <livtyler> Ben64: [Si] : yes, I'm ssh'ing to localhost
[11:22] <shenra> hello SuRock
[11:22] <Defusal> ikonia, i will explain better in a second
[11:22] <mozilla92> hey
[11:22] <ikonia> Defusal: so that's probably why it's not working, it's probably calling a script "not" as root
[11:22] <ikonia> Defusal: (at a basic high level)
[11:22] <bazhang> Fudge, why not start up in recovery mode and fix the video issues first
[11:22] <Fudge> si rileyp  bazhang  basically how to kill zombie processes
[11:23] <Defusal> rileyp, because the whole point of the script is to run stuff as root and as other users.
[11:23] <Fudge> bazhang  i dont want to restart, thats all
[11:23] <[Si]> livtyler can you try ssh -v servername pastebin that :)
[11:24] <Defusal> ikonia: my application spawns the script /home/admin/script/sudo.rb either passing a command to it, or: -i -u $username "$command"
[11:24] <Defusal> that script than spawns the actual command as root or as the user
[11:24] <ikonia> Defusal: ok - so is that secondary script being called with sudo ?
[11:24] <ikonia> Defusal: if not, you'll need to call that command via sudo
[11:24] <Defusal> ikonia, the sudo.rb script is using sudo
[11:24] <Ben64> seems like a security problem
[11:25] <ikonia> Ben64: it seems like a massive problem
[11:25] <Defusal> Ben64, give me a better solution to do exactly this, or don't complain
[11:25] <bazhang> Fudge, some special reason not to log out and then log in again?
[11:25] <Ben64> if you want to let normal users have root power, go right ahead
[11:25] <ikonia> Defusal: I'd suggest first of all, running through each script with/without sudo to understand/confirm that each script works as expected in it's own
[11:25] <ikonia> Defusal: then build up to your end solution
[11:25] <Defusal> the best i can do from what i know is put the script somewhere that isnt writable and limit it to only running certain things
[11:25] <jrib> Defusal: I suggest you solve a simpler problem first: create a sudo password exception for a ruby script that just creates a file only root can create
[11:25] <Defusal> and then make the exception in sudoers for that script
[11:26] <Defusal> i don't know of any better way to do this
[11:26] <ikonia> Defusal: what is your end goal ?
[11:26] <ikonia> Defusal: as in what do you want to be able to do
[11:26] <Defusal> ikonia, can the script in sudoers call sudo, or does sudo need to be called passing that script?
[11:26] <jrib> honestly, it just sounds like you are just doing what sudo already does
[11:26] <ikonia> you can script sudo sure
[11:27] <ikonia> Defusal: what's the end goal though, as in "joe reset peoples passwords"
[11:27] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/7KcqQzX5
[11:27] <Defusal> ikonia, creating/changing/deleting users and running processes as those users
[11:27] <Defusal> possibly other things i have not yet thought of in future
[11:27] <Defusal> but this is what i require now
[11:27] <ikonia> Defusal: ok, so why not just give that user sudo permission to the correct commands
[11:27] <ikonia> Defusal: eg: sudo useradd
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: or sudo adduser
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: why script scripts, calling scripts
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: sudo adduser james
[11:28] <Defusal> ikonia, while that would work for useradd
[11:28] <monohedron> ikonia, that sounds like user administration
[11:28] <ikonia> done
[11:28] <[Si]> livtyler can you also give a pastbin of tail -100 /var/log/auth.log
[11:28] <ikonia> monohedron: it is
[11:28] <Defusal> it would not work for dynamic commands
[11:28] <monohedron> so Defusal wouldn't want users doing it
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: can you give me an example of one ?
[11:28] <jrib> Defusal: like what?
[11:28] <Defusal> that script actually calls an inline script for running as other users
[11:28] <geirha> I'd go the route Defusal is going
[11:28] <Defusal> due to a complex workaround to do with signal detaching
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: sudo -c joe ls -la
[11:28] <Defusal> it is a complicated issue.
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: that will run ls -la as joe
[11:29] <Fudge> bazhang  i cant use the box, im sshd in
[11:29] <geirha> s/-c/-u/
[11:29] <Fudge> reboot the thing
[11:29] <ikonia> Defusal: if you insist on doing what you are doing - go through each script as a standalone unit and verify they work as expected
[11:29] <ikonia> Defusal: then concentrate on the wrapper
[11:29] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/AydezCB8
[11:29] <Defusal> sigh
[11:29] <Defusal> all this is just wasting my time
[11:29] <ikonia> Defusal: ?
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: then quit
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: you're getting solid help
[11:30] <Defusal> i came here with a simple question
[11:30] <Defusal> and still need a solution
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: ok, what is the simple question
[11:30] <Defusal> :|
[11:30] <Fudge> Defusal  maybe you should leave it for a whiel and think it over
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: give me the simple question you want an answer to
[11:30] <WanderingEnder> What's Defusal's simple question again?
[11:30] <Defusal> ikonia, calling that sudo.rb script does not work
[11:30] <Defusal> it asks for a password
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: that is not a simple question
[11:30] <Defusal> which means sudoers is not working
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: that is your mess of scripts calling scripts
[11:31] <Defusal> ffs
[11:31] <Ben64> a short question does not equal a simple one
[11:31] <ikonia> Defusal: so that's why people are asking questions to understeand
[11:31] <rileyp> defusal teach user that will peforms the task how to use sudo in a terminal.......................... done
[11:31] <Fudge> deuterium  can i just ask, when you sudo yourself, do you get asked for a password still?
[11:31] <[Si]> livtyler one last one pastebin of ls -la ~/.ssh on the server
[11:31] <Fudge> oops tabcomp :p
[11:31] <Ben64> [Si]: server is localhost :)
[11:32] <WanderingEnder> That was just a kick, and not a kickban, right?
[11:32] <Fudge> :( up 1 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.40,
[11:33] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/mMRQJwPz
[11:33] <[Si]> Ben64 :)
[11:33] <rileyp> Defusal has gone to commit himself....
[11:33] <[Si]> livtyler chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:33] <WanderingEnder> Heh. I guess that answers my question.
[11:33] <cryptotheslow> bomb defusal is always a risky business.
[11:33] <sacarlson> Defusal: sudoers can also be setup for groups of users to have password less access to groups of sudo needed commands, if needed maybe some examples http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/sample.sudoers
[11:34] <Fudge> why not jsut NOPASSWD
[11:34] <aik> qq
[11:34] <aik> qw
[11:34] <aik> e
[11:34] <aik> wq
[11:34] <aik> e
[11:34] <FloodBot1> aik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <aik> wq
[11:34] <Fudge> loL
[11:34] <[Si]> he's gone people :)
[11:34] <Ben64> [Si]: my authorized_keys is 644 and works fine... i'm thinking either the key isn't in there, or sshd doesn't know about it
[11:34] <rileyp> he was kicked
[11:35] <WanderingEnder> And banned.
[11:35] <aik> CW GAME STEAM ON EAC ON SERVER OFF
[11:35] <WanderingEnder> Ben64: Your sshd isn't complaining that the world can read your authorized_keys file?
[11:35] <Ben64> nope?
[11:36] <Ben64> its in ~/.ssh/ though, where only I can read it
[11:36] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/A87F5Umb
[11:36] <WanderingEnder> Weird, I've only ever seen sshd flip out at any setting other than 600.
[11:36] <WanderingEnder> Is your .ssh set to 600?
[11:37] <Ben64> drwx------   3 ben64 ben64      4096 2012-03-22 04:21 .ssh
[11:42] <Fudge> :p ltr guys
[11:43] <airplanesimen> Anyone here good at PEAP network (with wpa-psk2 enterprise security) ??
[11:43] <airplanesimen> need help
[11:43] <shenra> hello
[11:43] <bazhang> airplanesimen, then ask a question
[11:43] <airplanesimen> hi
[11:43] <airplanesimen> okay
[11:43] <bazhang> !wifi | airplanesimen have a read first
[11:44] <airplanesimen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11784659#post11784659  - shortest possible, check here
[11:44] <airplanesimen> thanks!
[11:45] <airplanesimen> Nothing at that link is for my issue, sorry :/
[11:46] <WanderingEnder> Um, which is easier?
[11:46] <[Si]> livtyler does this return anything: cd ~/.ssh l grep `cat id_rsa.pub | cut -f2 -d" "` authorized_keys
[11:46] <WanderingEnder> Converting ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server or just reformatting and installing Ubuntu Minimal with server packages?
[11:47] <[Si]> livtyler sorry that should be : cd ~/.ssh ; grep `cat id_rsa.pub | cut -f2 -d" "` authorized_keys
[11:48] <airplanesimen> My wifi refuses to connect to my PEAP protected network at school (enterprise wpa-psk2). What should i do?
[11:48] <livtyler> [Si]: blank, nothing
[11:48] <shenra> is there an option to have a login screen that i can click my picture and type a password?
[11:48] <shenra> or something similar?
[11:48] <[Si]> livtyler in ~/.ssh run cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys
[11:49] <airplanesimen> what linux do you have?
[11:49] <[Si]> then try again.
[11:49] <shenra> ubuntu 11.10
[11:49] <murrayc> Has something changed about locales in precise. In Oneiric, it was enough to set LANG (and LANGUAGE too) to make an app behave as per that locale. Now I notice that I have to set LC_TIME to really get the correct date formatting for en_GB.
[11:49] <airplanesimen> okay, and you are inside at your desktop? if so, click on your name at the menubar, then user-accounts or something like that
[11:50] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: seems to be supported in wpa-supplicant that is supported in ubuntu https://vtluug.org/wiki/PEAP-MSCHAP
[11:50] <chentong> i can SAY chinese
[11:50] <airplanesimen> hmm, okay, thanks! :D
[11:50] <bazhang> murrayc, #ubuntu+1 for precise
[11:50] <livtyler> [Si]: OMFG, you ARE a genius! , thank you
[11:50] <bazhang> chentong, in #ubuntu-cn
[11:50] <murrayc> bazhang: OK. Thanks.
[11:50] <chentong> en
[11:51] <[Si]> livtyler sorry should have checked the basics first :) that command added your public key to the authorized file.
[11:52] <[Si]> Ben64 you were indeed correct ;)
[11:52] <Dudir> shenra: you could try gdm
[11:52] <chentong> i need learn english
[11:52] <airplanesimen> Okay, thanks for help, but when i have entered that info in the file, and it still dont want to connect to the network, can i come back here?
[11:52] <Ben64> [Si]: :D
[11:52] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: sure why not
[11:53] <airplanesimen> okay, thanks sacarlson
[11:54] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm using ubuntu 11.10 as a iscsi initiator, but it doesn't start the iscsi session at boot, even though the target is set o node.startup = automatic - any ideas?
[11:55] <livtyler> [Si]: Ben64: thank you very much guys, good bye
[11:55] <shwaiil> hi
[11:56] <shwaiil> Q: How to create ALIAS in ubuntu ? I go to "home" but can't find .profile so, the tutorials wont work
[11:56] <shwaiil> Any tip ?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  .bashrc or .bash_profile can be used.
[11:56] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: tks i'll try :9
[11:57] <Dr_willis> shwaiil, I think the use of .profile may be a bit outdated.
[11:57] <shwaiil> Yeah I see
[11:57] <seoaqua> could anyone get the number of Y axis? http://index.baidu.com/main/word.php?word=abc
[11:57] <Dr_willis> theres alias's in some of those files allready. or make a custome alias file (mentioned in the comments of those 2 files)
[11:58] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: touch .bashrc in /home ?
[11:58] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  it should allready be there
[11:58] <Dr_willis> and its /home/yourusername
[11:58] <Madzia> 2on2 off
[11:58] <shwaiil> It's not working for me :X
[11:58] <Madzia> 2/2 off
[11:58] <Madzia> 2/2 off
[11:58] <FloodBot1> Madzia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Klej> I cant boot my Ubuntu from USB !
[11:59] <Klej> Everything is black.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Klej,  so what does it do exatly. and how did you make the usb.
[11:59] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: its not there :T
[11:59] <Klej> I made usb with Unetbootin.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  you got somthing goofy going on then. ever user should have one by default i belive.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | Klej
[11:59] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: I'm on a VPS
[12:00] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  you are on your own then. sounds like they are doing weird stuff.
[12:00] <Klej> I'm using laptop
[12:00] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: found it in root
[12:00] <shwaiil> found it here /root/.bashrc :T
[12:01] <Dudir> Klej: Probably a silly question, but did u change the bios to boot from usb?
[12:01] <Klej> Yeah
[12:01] <Klej> 1st boot
[12:01] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  if you are logging in diretly as root.. that would make sence.. but thats a scary vps that forces you to use root all the time.
[12:01] <WanderingEnder> Did you give it a minute or two to let the USB ISO load?
[12:01] <Klej> Yeah....5mins
[12:01] <Dudir> Klej: just making sure :p
[12:01] <WanderingEnder> Dr_willis, some VPS providers just give you root and expect you to make your own users.
[12:01] <Klej> :)
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Klej,  try using the nomodeset option the bot mentioned.
[12:01] <WanderingEnder> Then, you know, stop using root.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> WanderingEnder,  makes me wonder how much 'support' this channel should give to vps's
[12:02] <Klej> Dr_willis how to use that ?
[12:02] <WanderingEnder> Dr_willis, I'd say it depends on the VPS provider. Even good ones like Linode start out with only root, they expect you to know what you're doing.
[12:02]  * shenra wonders what a vps is
[12:02] <Dr_willis> klaas,  the url the bot gave. shows you.
[12:02] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | Klej
[12:02] <sazawal> ubuntu downgraded some of my packages...... how to upgrade them again?
[12:02] <Klej> !nomodoset
[12:03] <airplanesimen> hi
[12:03] <Klej> it doesnt work
[12:03] <WanderingEnder> !hi | airplanesimen
[12:03] <airplanesimen> i can connect now to the network
[12:03] <Klej> !nomodoset | Klej
 Sorry, I don't know anything about nomodoset
[12:03] <WanderingEnder> Thought we had a thing for people who say hi, hmm.
[12:03] <zykotick9> shenra: Virtual Private Server
[12:04] <shenra> oh.
[12:04] <airplanesimen> so, anyone remember me 3 mins ago?
[12:04] <WanderingEnder> shenra, you know what a VPS is now, or should I type out the explination?
[12:04] <[Si]> Klej http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 is the url you need
[12:04] <airplanesimen> talking about network?
[12:04] <Tejas> Hi i install postfix in newly install ubuntu 10.04 in rackspace cloud, but got error
[12:04] <Tejas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:04] <Tejas>  postfix
[12:04] <Tejas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:04] <shenra> no thanks. i
 Klej: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[12:04] <WanderingEnder> shenra, for examplke, Tejas is a VPS user, he's using Rackspace Cloud.
[12:04] <airplanesimen> carlson?
[12:05] <ix_> it's annoying, some apps are gtk2, some are gtk3
[12:05] <Klej> it's ok but where i need to write this ?
[12:05] <ix_> how do I get 1 theme for all apps?
[12:05] <ix_> one
[12:05] <airplanesimen> i guess not .. lol
[12:05] <shenra> WanderingEnder: that stuff sounds cool...
[12:05] <[Si]> Klej scroll down that page to "How to enable kernel options on the livecd"
[12:06] <ix_> at least, how do I install gtk3 themes?
[12:06] <WanderingEnder> shenra, its just another way to run Ubuntu. Instead of on physical hardware, run it partitioned on someone else's physical hardware. I have several VPSes at work.
[12:06] <Klej> i can't see that screen when im booting....
[12:07] <airplanesimen> okay, i have connected to a PEAP network now successfully, and i am wondering why i cant access "secure http" sites on my web-browser? it only gets blank while it is working, and nothing appears..
[12:07] <Dr_willis> the boot menu, has  a man=keyboard option, you hit the space there. i vbelive. I thought that url showed pictures of what to do.
[12:07] <shenra> WanderingEnder:  yeah i understand, its kinda similar to what schools do to allow access to the same liscenced programs from multiple computers, ontop of all our files
[12:07] <lifestream> Is there a web-browser that simplifies pages (kinda like printable version or mobile version, but with images)? I hate how complicated most websites look. I want to be able to set permanent background and text color without making the webpages look weird.
[12:07] <worm> Can I just startup to text mode? It is slow that every time I should get to lightdm.
[12:07] <ikonia> lifestream: browsers display what is coded, sorry
[12:08] <Dr_willis> lifestream,  ive seen some firefox and chrome extensions that can do some of that. often via greasemonkey scripts
[12:08] <airplanesimen> okay, i have connected to a PEAP network now successfully, and i am wondering why i cant access "secure http" sites on my web-browser? it only gets blank while it is working, and nothing appears.. Do i need the CA certificate?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> lifestream,  with how complex some sites are . it often dosent work well
[12:08] <Dudir> lifestream: http://www.readability.com/ does a decent job most of the times
[12:09] <WanderingEnder> airplanesimen, if someone knows the answer to your problem, they'll speak up. Repeating yourself won't assist in that.
[12:09] <lifestream> ikonia: yes but some can prevent css from taking effect.  Dr_willis you mean just set background+text color, or actually strip down the website into "printtable version"? . I'm not looking for an add-on. I want by default.
[12:09] <airplanesimen> so sorry
[12:09] <airplanesimen> :/
[12:09] <ix_> lifestream,  you can use links2, start it like links2 -g to render pictures
[12:09] <ikonia> lifestream: if you don't let css run you'll get malformatted sites
[12:09] <WanderingEnder> lI was going to suggest links2, but does that run in X, or just SVGAlib?
[12:09] <ikonia> lifestream: browsers like firefox have plugins that will allow you to alter what is parsed though
[12:10] <lifestream> With div css not in effect, most pages should show like a mobile/printable version. I tthink. I'll look into links2, didn't know it could show images.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> you could set your user agent to be that of a phone. :)
[12:11] <lifestream> I mean, do blind people use full fledged browsers, or something that shows a basic page? I would think it would be difficult for them to use normal browser.
[12:11] <Dr_willis> given how complex and unuseable many sites are on my android phone... i bet blind people have a hard time
[12:12] <WanderingEnder> They use something like JAWS that sits between the OS and them.
[12:13] <ix_> how can I change gtk3 themes?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> ix_,  the gnome-tweak tool can do that i recall.
[12:14] <Dr_willis> im on 12.04 so  i use myunity also. :)
[12:14] <Klej> Nothing.
[12:14] <Klej> Only i see is Unetbootin boot screen
[12:14] <ix_> what if I don't have unity or gnome, isn't there a generic tool like gtk-chtheme?
[12:15] <Klej> And nowhere is option NOMODOSET
[12:15] <sazawal> ubuntu downgraded some of my packages, how to upgrade them?
[12:15] <ednolivers> hi guys. does anyone know the recommended approach to upgrading apache in 10.04 LTS?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> Klej,  unetbootin most likely sets up syslinux and SOME key combo to edit its boot items.  I dont use unetbootin so dont recall how it does it.
[12:15] <Klej> what are you using ?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> i just dd the image file straight to the iso. :)
[12:15] <Dr_willis> or to the usb i mean.
[12:15] <Klej> usb
[12:15] <Klej> but how
[12:15] <Klej> what's dd ?
[12:16] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: after trying to put a "alias foo='ls -a" in .bashrc, it doesnt work. Any other tips ?
[12:16] <WanderingEnder> Klej, what OS are you making your USB stick from?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> ednolivers  fresh install with separate /home partition
[12:16] <Klej> Ubuntu latest version
[12:16] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  you do realize that will only affect new shells.. or you have to 'source .bashrc' after the change?
[12:17] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: ahh thanks :D
[12:17] <ednolivers> MonkeyDust: fresh ubuntu install?
[12:17] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  makes sence dont it. :)
[12:17] <Dudir> Klej: Have you tried booting it on a different machine? (are you sure your stick works?)
[12:17] <WanderingEnder> Klej, you can use 'dd' to write the image directly to the media. Google knows how, not sure if the bot does. There's also the Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu.
[12:17] <Klej> yeah
[12:17] <Dudir> Klej: I have had drives that were borked from the start
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> ednolivers  yes
[12:18] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: makes sence. works now!
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> ednolivers  sorry, you just want apache upgrade, my mistake
[12:19] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has tools other then unetbootin also.
[12:19] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: what's the meaning of "source" command ?
[12:20] <Klej> Is possible to move .iso on usb and to boot it ?
[12:20] <marscher> hi
[12:20] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  'run this script in the terminal' shortcut for source command is '.'  ie:    . .bashrc     (often seen in scripts)
[12:20] <AcidRain> Klej: yes
[12:20] <Klej> Ok.
[12:20] <marscher> i have a gnuplot script and i want to pass the input data file by argument
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  you have to put it on in a special way. not just copy the iso to the flash. OR use a tool from pendrivelinux to put the iso on the usb and grub2
[12:21] <marscher> i tried gnuplot -e "FILE=`data.csv`" myscript.g
[12:21] <marscher> in the script i have:
[12:21] <marscher> mydata = "`echo $FILE`"
[12:22] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: I see :) But "." as other meanings right ? I remember using it as current dir when pushing in git, like "git add ."
[12:22] <marscher> but mydata is empty on the plot command
[12:22] <marscher> any ideas?
[12:23] <sazawal> ubuntu downgraded some of my packages, how to upgrade them?
[12:24] <vlt> !details | sazawal
[12:25] <[Si]> marscher unless you export FILE first the subshell (created by ` ` ) will not have $FILE
[12:25] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  things always have different meanings on how they are used.
[12:25] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit architecture, I tried to install pulseaudio-module-jack then it asked me to downgrade some packages
[12:25] <sazawal> i approved and it downgraded some pulseaudio packages
[12:25] <sazawal> now my volume-control and spund preferences are not working
[12:26] <Dr_willis> sazawal,  sounds like you may be using some extra ppa's or other repos.
[12:26] <sazawal> I cannot see pulseaudio running on my system monitor ...... though my sound iw roking
[12:26] <sazawal> yes
[12:26] <marscher> [Si], someone states here, that if you pass the value by command mode (gnuplot -e), you dont have to export it
[12:26] <marscher> https://groups.google.com/group/comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot/browse_thread/thread/b023aabe4ec4cd15?fwc=1&hl=de
[12:26] <sazawal> Dr_willis there were about 20 of the packages downgraded
[12:26] <sazawal> for example libpulse0:amd64 (0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1, 0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1)
[12:27] <sazawal> it was downgraded from x to y in (x,y)
[12:27] <airplanesimen> I have installed OpenSSH-server on my linux, to use a tunnel to my home (use it as proxy). And now i need to know how i can connect my SSH through the proxy at school?
[12:27] <[Si]> marscher but you are calling a subshell to do echo $FILE
[12:27] <Dr_willis> sazawal,  thats what can happen when you use ppa's
[12:27] <marscher> [Si], ah i see, thx
[12:28] <sazawal> I do not know what happened .... I used aptitude for installation and it suggested my to downgrade them
[12:28] <sazawal> I did not put any external ppas
[12:28] <WanderingEnder> airplanesimen, what's your OS for your client PC?
[12:28] <airplanesimen> linux, ubuntu
[12:28] <airplanesimen> both
[12:29] <WanderingEnder> You want SSH forwarding.
[12:29] <sazawal> Dr_willis, still I know the packages those were downgraded and their version
[12:29] <sazawal> Can I get them back?
[12:29] <sazawal> like 0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1 for libpulse0
[12:29] <airplanesimen> i know how t forward, but not to forward ssh through the proxy at school, proxify the ssh program
[12:29] <airplanesimen> to use a proxy
[12:32] <viktor> could somebody tell me which command i can use to enable the "universe" component pls?
[12:32] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[12:32] <sazawal> Do you understand what does this mean : 0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1?
[12:33] <[Si]> sacarlson it sounds like airplanesimen's network is blocking 22 outbound, he'd need to build a https wrapper round ssh to use that.
[12:33] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: I assume you want to run your browser from your laptop at school through a tunnel to your home to proxy to the internet
[12:34] <airplanesimen> ihave, i have.. i know how to forward, but how can i make OpenSSH go through a proxy at school? :D
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  maverick is an almost EOL version of ubuntu, a PPA is a local software source
[12:34] <sacarlson> [Si]: airplanesimen: if that's the case then they might need to change the ssh server listen address to be port 80
[12:34] <airplanesimen> i have set proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, but what about ssh
[12:34] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, yes
[12:34] <airplanesimen> hmm, smart!
[12:34] <shenra> hey i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and teh touchpad mouse stopped working.  is there anyway i can turn it back on?
[12:34] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, any clue ?
[12:35] <airplanesimen> but what if other connections uses that port?
[12:35] <[Si]> if they are using a very dumb firewall that'd work :)
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  about what? where does that line come from?
[12:35] <airplanesimen> no, this firewall is advanced..  but i can try, thanks!
[12:35] <sazawal> :D, Do you have any clue what should I do now
[12:35] <viktor> i'm installing yum, and i'd need to enable the component "universe". how do i do that?
[12:35] <[Si]> you are better off using a propper https wrapper round ssh (http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/) as that will work through all https proxies :)
[12:36] <viktor> is it like a repo i need to add?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  depends on where that line comes from, when did it show?
[12:36] <airplanesimen> bye, thanks for the help :D
[12:36] <airplanesimen> i will come back
[12:37] <HideMe> The left/right side buttons on my Razer DeathAdder mouse don't work, any idea how to enable this?
[12:37] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: your firewall at school will also have to pass port 443 the for https so you can also use that at your home ssh server to listen on
[12:37] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit architecture, I tried to install pulseaudio-module-jack then it asked me to downgrade some packages
[12:37] <sazawal> i approved and it downgraded some pulseaudio packages
[12:37] <airplanesimen> yes, i thought of that :)
[12:37] <sazawal> now my volume-control and spund preferences are not working
[12:37] <airplanesimen> bye
[12:38] <sazawal> I have the details of what packages were downgraded and to what version
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  ah, no, doesnt err, ring a bell, sorry
[12:40] <sazawal> ok it was showing that for example libpulse was downgraded from "0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1" to "0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1"
[12:40] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, do you have an idea what does this line mean?
[12:40] <sazawal> how to get this version back?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  no, i'm not familiar with it myself
[12:41] <sazawal> okay :(
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> sazawal, Have you tried posting a thread (with all of the info), in the forums?
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> I know it takes a little longer. :-(
[12:44] <sazawal> Sidewinder1, not yet
[12:44] <sazawal> I thought I could get it working
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  instead of struggling with the error, my advice is to upgrade ubuntu, as maverick will be End Of Life in a few weeks from now
[12:45] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, yes I will try doing that
[12:45] <sazawal> but it was working so fine
[12:45] <gogeta_> How to get QT 4.8, i use ubuntu 11.10, do i need to add any other repos?
[12:45] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, hey can you take a look here https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily/+build/2864092
[12:46] <sazawal> looks like this is what I need to install
[12:46] <airplanesimen> here again
[12:48] <hiatus> soo.. this ubuntu for android. Is it compatible with x86?
[12:49] <expert> hi
[12:49] <ix_> I just don't understand how to install a gtk3 theme
[12:49] <ix_> and there are no instrunctions
[12:50] <gogeta_> expert: Hi, how to get QT4.8, should i add any repo?
[12:51] <popey> hiatus: there's been no releases yet
[12:51] <expert> hey anyone can teach me to have pxe network boot as well as windows installation
[12:52] <Dr_willis> ix_,  extract to your .themes or was it .themes directory i belive
[12:52] <hiatus> popey: no release of what?
[12:52] <popey> hiatus: ubuntu for android, you just asked about it
[12:53] <hiatus> ah
[12:53] <HideMe> best way to edit xorg.conf in ubuntu?
[12:53] <hiatus> I thought there was... well... wtf!
[12:53] <ix_> Dr_willis, I've extracted it and I've put it in the usr/share/themes
[12:54] <popey> hiatus: not yet
[12:55] <zykotick9> HideMe: do you have an xorg.conf currently?
[12:55] <hiatus> popey: still, closed development? Thats pretty unusual. I was going to install android on my thinkpad and then see if I could get ubuntu for android to run on top of it
[12:55] <hiatus> it would have been awesome... now I must wait for such awesomeness!
[12:55] <popey> its targetting phones, not laptops
[12:56] <hiatus> what do I care who canonical is targeting?
[12:56] <popey> hiatus: ok, have a nice day.
[12:57] <hiatus> O.o
[12:59] <melvincv> hi all. how do I apply this to wine 1.4 - http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=30052
[12:59] <ikonia> melvincv: it's a patch you'd need to recompile wine
[13:00] <Klej> I've installed ubuntu on my laptop
[13:00] <Klej> and
[13:01] <Klej> how can i boot him cause he was installed include on local disc c: where is also windows 7
[13:01] <traubisoda> how can i configure apache perl cgi to work correctly? now perl scripts are opened as text in browser
[13:01] <melvincv> ikonia, how do I apply the patch into the source?
[13:01] <Klej> he said me to remowe usb and hit enter
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Klej  wubi?
[13:01] <trkemist> Hey all
[13:01] <Klej> when he restart it boots windows 7
[13:01] <trkemist> How can I / should I report a successful new machine install
[13:01] <Klej> MonkeyDust i've usedd unetbootin
[13:01] <ikonia> melvincv: it's quite a complex process
[13:01] <Klej> and live cd boot menu
[13:01] <ikonia> melvincv: who told you, you need that patch ?
[13:02] <trkemist> I am happily sitting here working on my new Dell Ultrabook XPS13 running Ubuntu 11.10 with 99% of everything working out the gate... very cool.
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Klej  and do you get a grub menu?
[13:02] <Klej> yeah
[13:02] <Klej> successfully istalled
[13:02] <hateball> Klej: If you hold the shift key while the computer boots you will get the grub menu, can you see Ubuntu there?
[13:02] <Klej> i will try
[13:02] <melvincv> ikonia, my own research. I'm trying to get Stronghold Kingdoms game working on Ubuntu.
[13:03] <trkemist> The mousepad thing... not so much.. I can't figure this out..
[13:03] <melvincv> ikonia, I have this issue: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23934
[13:04] <viktor> how do i install the universe repo using wget?
[13:05] <expert> hey anyone can teach me to have pxe network boot as well as windows installation
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> viktor  it's not something to install, it's something to make available or activate
[13:06] <shwaiil> Q: To move a file from one directory to other, or better to copy, what's the command ? thanks
[13:06] <viktor> MonkeyDust, euhm yeah, of course. i just need to add it to the sources list (i think), but i can't copy-paste right now, and i know it's doable with wget
[13:06] <Pici> viktor: Can I ask why you're trying to install yum?
[13:07] <viktor> but forgot how exactly
[13:07] <__nu11___> d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US
[13:07] <__nu11___> i have added that line into my preseed file but it keeps asking me to choose a language :S
[13:07] <Klej> When i hold shift nothing to do.
[13:07] <Klej> It boot windows 7
[13:07] <__nu11___> shwaiil: mv <source> <destination>
[13:07] <viktor> Pici, i'm trying to install guest additions on a virtual system, and some tutorial gave that as a command
[13:08] <shwaiil> __nu11___: tks for looking, to copy use "cp dir dest" ?
[13:08] <viktor> Pici https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15679
[13:08] <__nu11___> shwaiil: yes :)
[13:08] <__nu11___> shwaiil: and if it's a directory use cp -r
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> viktor  is this link useful? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/addrepo-easiest-way-to-add-apt-repositories.html
[13:08] <Klej> Someone tell me... ?
[13:08] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  recursive right ? thanks
[13:08] <Klej> How to boot linux
[13:09] <Pici> viktor: That part of the tutorial is for people with Fedora.
[13:09] <Klej> Installed on local disc c:
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> viktor  forget that link I showed, it's something else
[13:10] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  let's say I have DirectoryB and I want to move to DirectoryA. I dont want to keep DirectoryB when moving, but only the nested files. What should I do ?
[13:10] <viktor> Pici, right, thus the dangers of not attentivly reading what you're doing...
[13:10] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  I ment not perserving the directory name
[13:10] <Klej> Hellooooooooooo
[13:10] <Pici> viktor: If you still want to enable universe, typically you only need to uncomment a line in /etc/apt/sources.list  or  add a line, its really not enough text to need to copy/paste too.
[13:11] <__nu11___> mv -r DirA/* DirA
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Klej  what happens when you choose ubuntu in the grub menu
[13:11] <__nu11___> shwaiil: ^
[13:11] <melvincv> Klej, If you installed in Windows, you should see a menu to choose between Windows 7 and Ubuntu when you turn on your computer.
[13:11] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  hmm
[13:11] <Klej> I dont have it.
[13:12] <Klej> And i cant choose grub menu without usb stick
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Klej  don't have what?
[13:12] <viktor> Pici, you're right, i should just typ it, it's not in the list though, dtrying to run a different system virtually on ubuntu, but that's not really relevant
[13:12] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  for copy cp -r DirA/* DirB ?
[13:12] <__nu11___> shwaiil: yes
[13:12] <shwaiil> __nu11___: thanks a lot
[13:13] <Klej> I dont know whats the problem
[13:13] <Klej> He said me that installation was successfull
[13:13] <__nu11___> but lemme but this all together you want to move dirb/file1...file10 to dira and the final result is dira/file1....file10 right?
[13:13] <Klej> But linux nowhere i can see
[13:14] <__nu11___> Klej: you installed ubuntu using what way?cd netwrok wubi or what?
[13:14] <melvincv> Klej, what screen are you in now?
[13:14] <Klej> windows 7
[13:14] <Lionthinker> hi there
[13:14] <Lionthinker> I have a problem with Libre Office Impress
[13:14] <Lionthinker> Can anyone help
[13:15] <Klej> I have a file called wubi on my flash
[13:15] <vlt> !enter | Lionthinker
[13:15] <Klej> I've been modified isolinux to syslinux
[13:15] <HideMe> zykotick9,  No
[13:15] <Lionthinker> apologies, so when I use animations in impress it crashes, can anyone help?
[13:15] <__nu11___> Lionthinker: tried to upgrade it?
[13:16] <__nu11___> Klej: private please :)
[13:16] <Lionthinker> how do I do that?
[13:16] <__nu11___> Lionthinker: system---->admin---->synaptic----> search for impress and mark for upgrade
[13:16] <Dr_willis> Klej,  a wubi install would use the windows boot menu/loader. , a normal install would use a grub menu befor windows even starts up.
[13:17] <melvincv> For me, the Windows bootloader displays a menu with Ubuntu as a choice, whenn I select that it goes to Grub4DOS, then Ubuntu.
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Klej,  so you booted a flash driev and selected 'install' or what exactly?
[13:17] <Klej> Dr_willis yes
[13:17] <Klej> exactly that.
[13:17] <Dr_willis> exactly what?
[13:18] <Klej> in my properties i dont have to seen mylti OS ..just see windows 7
[13:18] <dape> hello, i just updated perl, how do i run something like perl-updater --modules to make sure everything is cool?
[13:18] <Lionthinker> null_ thank will try that
[13:20] <melvincv> Klej, properties? When you turn on your computer, observe what happens. You should get to choose between Windows 7 and Ubuntu.
[13:20] <Klej> No.
[13:20] <Klej> it starts only windows 7
[13:20] <monohedron> can someone point me to a tut on how to modify the login screen on 11.04
[13:20] <Lionthinker> -Null- could you explain that in baby steps, are those steps meant to be in the terminal? in which case could you explain the code
[13:20] <Klej> i will try with wubi
[13:21] <Dr_willis> monohedron,  theres some guides on the webupd8 blog site and askubuntu on tweaking lightdm and gdm.
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  i suggest you dont even touch wubi.
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Klej  wubi is not a real installation
[13:21] <monohedron> Dr_willis, thanks I'll have a read
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  you are able to boot the usb to get to a live desktop?
[13:21] <Klej> yeah...
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  id try using the fixboot tool and have it reinstall grub.
[13:21] <toozler> ;frm
[13:21] <Dr_willis> !fixboot
[13:22] <Dr_willis> !grub
[13:22] <Dr_willis> Hope that fixboot tool gets included by defaunt on the 12.04 cd :)
[13:22] <Klej> and what to do with fixboot
[13:23] <Dr_willis> 'boot-repair' is its offial name..
[13:23] <Dr_willis> install boot-repair.. run it..
[13:23] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:23] <Klej> install on usb ?
[13:23] <Dr_willis> boot the usb.. install the program.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> it will install to ram
[13:23] <Klej> ok
[13:24] <Klej> maybe it's not the problem.....
[13:25] <ubuntu_lover> hi
[13:26] <Lionthinker> Libre Impress help: how do I do this?     system---->admin---->synaptic----> search for impress and mark for upgrade
[13:26] <Dr_willis> Lionthinker,  synaptic is not installed on ubuntu by default. use whatever package manager tool you want.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> 'search with the tool for impress' install it...
[13:26] <ubuntu_lover> i want to upload a folder to my ftp server . i am using filezilla . i am noob and i dont know what should we give in the option remote site.pls help
[13:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_lover,  the ip or hostname of your ftp server.
[13:27] <Lionthinker> Dr Willis - so Impress crashes and I don't know how to check for updates
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Lionthinker,  if theres updates the update-manager should find and install them.
[13:27] <ubuntu_lover> i gave it ie ftp.navriti.com
[13:27] <_Marcus> What is xserver-xorg-video-openchrome? I did updates with apt-get and it installed that
[13:27] <ubuntu_lover> but that doesnt work
[13:27] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  Lionthinker  for the terminal
[13:27] <_Marcus> This is Ubuntu Server, so no GUI
[13:28] <Lionthinker> Dr Willis - so then I'm up to date, but how do I solve this crash that doesn't even have a crash report
[13:28] <_Marcus> Lionthinker: What crashed?
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Lionthinker,  run it from terminal. look for error messages, check bug reports site. and perhaps askubuntu.com
[13:28] <Lionthinker> Dr Willis_I'll that,
[13:29] <Dr_willis> !tab | Lionthinker
[13:29] <Lionthinker> Marcus_impress crashed when attempting different animations
[13:29] <_Marcus> Oh
[13:30] <Dr_willis> theres a libreoffice channel i imagine also.
[13:30] <Lionthinker> Dr_willis, its under document foundation but rather empty, came here out of desperation
[13:31] <Dr_willis> I use abiword. :)
[13:31] <_Marcus> I don't have x11, would it be okay to uninstall the x11 packages on my system?
[13:31] <Lionthinker> ubottu, thanks for the tip, its the only way I'm learning
[13:31] <Dr_willis> _Marcus,  if you dont need them. but i often ssh to my servers and run X apps
[13:32] <Dr_willis> or use vnc.
[13:32] <Lionthinker> ubottu, whats a bot
[13:32] <jrib> Lionthinker: robot, machine, program
[13:32] <Lionthinker> :-D
[13:32] <_Marcus> Lionthinker: He isn't a person, he is an IRC bot. And IRC bot is a program that responds to commands that people active. Type "!ubottu" for more information about him
[13:33] <airplanesimen> ubottu haha :D
[13:33] <zykotick9> _Marcus: she, ubottu is a women
[13:33] <zykotick9> !gender
[13:33] <Dr_willis> a 'Fembot' :P
[13:33] <_Marcus> Dr_willis: I am on Ubuntu Server, so I don't use any GUI at all. I tried installing one before, but removed it afterwards, so there is still x11 packages still here. I don't know if anything is using it though.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> _Marcus,  go for it then.
[13:34] <jrib> _Marcus: remove it, and if you find out later that you need it, put it back?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> Theres even a X11 server in the works for android - remote X sessions on my tablet :)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> and of course.. someday ubuntu in your pocket.
[13:35] <traubisoda> how can i manage a 7.1 sound card on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:35] <_flamen_> una pregunta alguien entiende español
[13:36] <zykotick9> traubisoda: reask in #ubuntu+1
[13:36] <traubisoda> okay, thx
[13:37] <Lionthinker> "!ubottu"
[13:37] <_Marcus> !es | _flamen_
[13:37] <_Marcus> Lionthinker: No quotes
[13:37] <Pici> !msgthebot
[13:40] <wdonkey> hi, i<ve recently undertook some newbish fixing of my ubuntu system and the whole thing wont boot anymore. i did backp recently but i forgot about my important tomboy notes, how can i recover these from a live CD ?
[13:41] <_Marcus> When I used apt-get, this happened: http://pastebin.com/GSeJbsU1
[13:41] <Dr_willis> wdonkey,  you dident use the tomboy feature to save them to your ubuntuone account?
[13:41] <_Marcus> How do I use apt-get again?
[13:41] <jrib> _Marcus: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:41] <wdonkey> no sir
[13:42] <_flamen_> eee
[13:42] <_flamen_> de nuevo
[13:42] <_flamen_> que es lo que tengo que poner
[13:42] <_flamen_> si me leeis
[13:42] <Dr_willis> only one package manager can be working at a time
[13:42] <_flamen_> alguno
[13:42] <FloodBot1> _flamen_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <Wouter_> _Marcus, from an ssh terminal user : sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[13:42] <_flamen_> para entrar
[13:42] <_flamen_> en salas españolas
[13:42] <_Marcus> !es | _flamen_
[13:42] <zykotick9> _Marcus: do you have an Ubuntu Software Center, or update running?  only one apt can run at a time.
[13:42] <wdonkey> Dr_willis: i still have access to my filesystem on the livecd im on but i cant find the correct path to my beloved notes
[13:43] <_Marcus> zykotick9: I was in the middle of an apt-get, but it was trying to remove PHPMyAdmin, and I didn't want that, so I exited out of SSH terminal.
[13:43] <Wouter_> If you are getting ´unable to lock the administration directory´ when using apt-get you are probably not root. use sudo before the apt-get.
[13:43] <_Marcus> Wouter_: My paste showed me using root
[13:43] <Wouter_> ah
[13:43] <Dr_willis> wdonkey,  i always save mine to the ubuntuone account so i can get to them from anywhere. Not sure what the path is to a local copy of them.
[13:44] <Wouter_> then it might be still running
[13:44] <wdonkey> alright
[13:44] <wdonkey> i<ll try to recover my old system then, thanks!
[13:44] <zykotick9> wdonkey: check ~/.local/share/tomboy
[13:45] <zykotick9> !aptlock | _Marcus
[13:46] <_Marcus> I already restarted the server
[13:46] <_Marcus> But I'll keep that written down for futher use
[13:48] <airplanesimen> does it matter what certificate i use on a wpa-enterprise secured network with maschapv2 and version0 - network?
[13:53] <binaryking> hello
[13:54] <binaryking> is there any word-processing tool for ubuntu which removes the repetitions of words
[13:54] <binaryking> like i have google written 50 times so it keeps 1 and deletes the rest (49)
[13:55] <Dr_willis> binaryking,  in what kind of file?
[13:55] <binaryking> a txt one.
[13:55] <Dr_willis> grep/sed/awk binaryking  has ways
[13:55] <prod_> Hi all im looking to make a mail server. It doesnt need to do much. For now I just need it to have 1 email address and I only need to recieve mail with it for now.  Can anyone advise me of a good tutorial?
[13:55] <HideMe> best way to edit x confing in ubuntu?
[13:56] <nlko> prod_: apt-get install exim
[13:56] <binaryking> Dr_willis: they all r diff. soft.?
[13:56] <Dr_willis> HideMe,  the xorg.conf file is a text file. so use a text editor. ;)
[13:56] <urbov> is there a command line utitli
[13:56] <silv3r_m00n> is there some kind of terminal command for cups which will search for remote printer ?
[13:56] <eikaiewa> hihello
[13:56] <Dr_willis> binaryking,  differnt tools that work for manaplating text files
[13:56] <urbov> utility for configure a UMTS stick
[13:56] <HideMe> Dr_willis,   But I do not have a xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[13:56] <prod_> nlko: thanx
[13:56] <binaryking> Dr_willis: ok. thanks :)
[13:56] <Dr_willis> HideMe,  so make one?
[13:56] <eikaiewa> is there an official I need help channel?
[13:57] <nlko> prod_: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/exim4.html
[13:57] <Pici> prod_: The Ubuntu Server Guide is very helpful for setting up a basic mail server.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[13:57] <Dr_willis> silv3r_m00n,  i think theres a lot of cups cli tools. the cups website has docs detailing them ive rarely needed them
[13:57] <urbov> is there a command-line utility to configure an USB UMTS stick
[13:57] <binaryking> Dr
[13:58] <binaryking> Dr_willis: grep and sed is already installed on my UbPC
[13:58] <binaryking> how do i execute them?
[13:58] <eikaiewa> I changed the graphics settings on my netbook, and not it will not boot
[13:58] <eikaiewa> any advice on where to start?
[13:59] <Dr_willis> binaryking,  you will have to read up on their ussage. and how regular expressions work. check the web for 'sed examples'  there should be some examples on removeing repeated text
[13:59] <wdonkey> zykotick9: couldnt find anything there, only odd files
[14:00] <monohedron> eikaiewa, do you get to see the grub window?
[14:00] <eikaiewa> back now
[14:01] <eikaiewa> I see nothing
[14:01] <eikaiewa> Just the fringe of the backlight
[14:02] <eikaiewa> When I hit the power button,  Ubuntu 10.4 shows up and it shuts down though
[14:02] <wdonkey> if i retrofit my system to an older version of ubuntu with a live CD, will i have the option of keeping my preference/documents ?
[14:03] <monohedron> eikaiewa, press ESC between poweron and the ubuntu window
[14:04] <eikaiewa> does nothing.  I see the bios flash, then nada. Not even a blip in the corner
[14:04] <cryptothesly> wdonkey: certainly not automatically. There are ways to do it if you home partition is separate. But really - best off backing everything up before you start. Then once installed copy back in whatever preference folders and files you  like.
[14:05] <eikaiewa> I was following this advice:
[14:05] <meerkats> Damn Rhythmbox erased half of my mp4 files, but they are still in the trash. All this data is stored in usb0, but when I select all and restore it says it cannot find usb0, even when its plugged in
[14:05] <eikaiewa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229345
[14:05] <eikaiewa> my graphics looked awesome for the first time since the install
[14:05] <eikaiewa> reboot and then nothing
[14:05] <c0rnel> all
[14:05] <c0rnel> hello > all :)
[14:06] <wdonkey> cryptothesly: can i just copy the whole /home folder and copy it back into my new installation ^
[14:06] <binaryking> Dr_willis: that isn't helping
[14:06] <c0rnel> how can i upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04?
[14:06] <r0hit> meerkats, move em off from ~/.local/trash folder
[14:06] <binaryking> Dr_willis: any text editor or word processing.
[14:06] <meerkats> Error while moving "\media\usb0\.Trash-1000...\4%20-%20Don't%20Cry.mp3"
[14:07] <compdoc> eikaiewa, time to try the live boot cd
[14:07] <binaryking> hey guys i want some help
[14:07] <eikaiewa> is there something like a n ubuntu safe mode?
[14:07] <eikaiewa> i dont even own a cd player
[14:07] <binaryking> is there any text editor which helps to delete text re-occurences?
[14:07] <cryptothesly> wdonkey: You can. Make sure you get all the hidden ones that start with a dot as well. Probably not advisable to copy the whole home dir back - rather selectively copy back the relevant application folders
[14:08] <binaryking> like if i have nafees 4 times, it keeps the 1st 1, and deletes the other 3
[14:08] <meerkats> another thing: there are 2000 files in the trash: for each one it says the same message: I have been clicking on "ok" for like 5 minutes, isnt there a faster way? ctrl-c doesnt seem to wrok
[14:08] <meerkats> to cancel the operation
[14:08] <eikaiewa> is there a way to revert my ubuntu install_
[14:10] <silv3r_m00n> cups is not detecting a printer over the LAN , it detects sometime and sometimes doesn't
[14:10] <monohedron> eikaiewa, when booting press ESC. That should take you not the GRUB menu. There you can boot in safe mode.
[14:10] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix
[14:10] <eikaiewa> is there a setting with empathy that I am missing, or are the messages just slow today?
[14:11] <monohedron> eikaiewa, when booting press ESC. That should take you to the GRUB menu. There you can boot in safe mode.
[14:11] <silv3r_m00n> remote_machine:631 works fine though
[14:11] <eikaiewa> When I press esc, my computer angerly beeps at me.  I tried 6 combinations (pressing, holding down, ...~  Nothing gets me to grub
[14:11] <wdonkey> zykotick9: it finaly worked, thanks
[14:12] <eikaiewa> (I did google first, and got nowhere there)
[14:12] <monohedron> eikaiewa, do you remember what you did to your computer ?
[14:13] <monohedron> eikaiewa, if so you could use a live usb stick. mount your partition and change it back
[14:14] <Oer> usually it is left shift @ boot to enter grub-menu
[14:14] <Oer> some say right shift works also.
[14:15] <monohedron> i seem to rememeber esc for some reason
[14:16] <wisnia> hi all , anyone knows how to change font in gnome?
[14:17] <monohedron> wisnia, that's like asking can someone tell to hello in asian
[14:17] <meerkats> r0hit, that only shows the files erased from my hard drive, not from my HDD, external one, usb0
[14:17] <monohedron> wisnia, right click your dektop go to back ground. then you should have a tab with fonts
[14:18] <shaneo> can someone please help me im getting a really weird error when running add-apy --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/
[14:18] <shaneo> *add-apt
[14:18] <meerkats> ok, found the damed files inside usb0
[14:18] <shaneo> and its not gpg key error or anything like that it pertains to ssl CA certs
[14:18] <meerkats> .trash-1000 inside usbo has all the files I need
[14:19] <meerkats> how do I restore em?
[14:19] <shaneo> meerkats, copy from .trash to root of flash
[14:20] <shaneo> or w/e
[14:20] <meerkats> shaneo, for noobs please: create a folder named root and move everyhting there?
[14:20] <shaneo> no just move the files wherever you want them to be
[14:20] <ikonia> meerkats: the root of the usb is the top level directory of the usb drive
[14:20] <ikonia> ls
[14:20] <ikonia> oops
[14:22] <meerkats> shaneo, we are talking about 4000 files, I must find an automated way to restore all to their original position
[14:22] <meerkats> location
[14:22] <shaneo> meerkats, cp * /put/dir/here/
[14:22] <r0hit> meerkats, comfy with terminal?
[14:23] <kingdomfire> !lista
[14:23] <shaneo> or mv * /put/dir/here
[14:23] <r0hit> meerkats, mount your external drive in /media/usb0 manually and give it a shot
[14:23] <kingdomfire> !addon
[14:24] <shaneo> meerkats, you want me to jot ya down a quick script for transferring files?
[14:24] <meerkats> but the 4000 mp4 files are grouped by album and artist, so each directory contains no more thatn 12 tracks on average. 4000/12 = 333 different folders
[14:25] <kingdomfire> !game
[14:25] <meerkats> r0hit, to mount manually first I must unmount via gparted, right?
[14:25] <Pici> kingdomfire: Can we help you?
[14:25] <r0hit> meerkats, yes
[14:25] <kingdomfire> pici yes
[14:26] <kingdomfire> how do I for download games for pc?
[14:26] <Pici> kingdomfire: This channel is for Ubuntu Linux support.  It is not a place for pirating games.
[14:26] <shaneo> meerkats, cp -r * /this/is/where/your/files/are/going
[14:26] <kingdomfire> ok thanks
[14:27] <r0hit> meerkats, also i think Trash restore failed because your probably changed the drive's label or reformatted it?
[14:27] <meerkats> thanks shaneo , but im still trying r0hit 's way...
[14:27] <kingdomfire> and which is channel?
[14:27] <shaneo> alright then
[14:27] <_Marcus> kingdomfire: Freenode isn't a place for piracy either.
[14:27] <meerkats> i would never reformat that shit
[14:27] <meerkats> not in the present state of things
[14:27] <johnm> kingdomfire: www.steam.com, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/ubuntu-software-centre - start paying for what you want to own.
[14:27] <r0hit> shaneo, i dont think trash folder maintains heirarchy. dumps everything in one folder and saves heirarchy metadata elsewhere
[14:27] <binaryking> is there any text editor which helps to delete text re-occurences?
[14:28] <shaneo> all files and folders should be in /.trash-1000/files/
[14:28] <meerkats> shaneo, yes they are
[14:29] <meerkats> shaneo, usb0/.trash-1000/files
[14:29] <shaneo> anyway can someone please help me with this error i can add any repos cause im getting ssl ca errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/
[14:29] <shaneo> *cant
[14:29] <r0hit> meerkats, 4000 files are showing up in /.trash-1000/files or are they organized?
[14:30] <shaneo> they should be organized mine always are
[14:30] <meerkats> r0hit, just the 4000 files without hierarchy or folders
[14:30] <shaneo> damn
[14:31] <_FLamen_> joer me cay
[14:31] <_FLamen_> no se
[14:31] <Guest76286> uijhip;
[14:31] <_FLamen_> quien me a  dixo
[14:31] <_FLamen_> que no se usarlo
[14:31] <_FLamen_> tiene razon
[14:31] <FloodBot1> _FLamen_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <_FLamen_> pero
[14:31] <Pici> !es | _FLamen_
[14:31] <_FLamen_> aun asi no me gusta
[14:31] <shaneo> meerkats, just use banshee to import the files via the media player and set options to create folders
[14:31] <Guest76286> Where am I ?
[14:32] <monohedron> Guest76286, your are safe
[14:32] <shaneo> Guest76286, this is IRC
[14:32] <_Marcus> Guest76286: You are in #ubuntu
[14:32] <shaneo> lol
[14:32] <Guest76286> Ohhh right. I'm in school
[14:32] <jin> so many person
[14:32] <shaneo> those three replies went together pretty well
[14:33] <monohedron> yup
[14:33] <AcidRain> lol who am i
[14:33] <Guest76286> Is anyone in Macedonia ?
[14:33] <monohedron> AcidRain, not me
[14:33] <_Marcus> !ot | Guest76286
[14:33] <shaneo> anyone please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/
[14:33] <AcidRain> Guest76286: this is not a hookup channel
[14:34] <jin> i dislike unity
[14:34] <shaneo> AOL irc chans died decades ago nobody does that n/s/a/l stuff anymore
[14:34] <mehdi> anybody knows how can i run h264 ? i try this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 but ut didnt work
[14:34] <shaneo> jin, why
[14:35] <Guest76286> Please help me
[14:35] <Guest76286> I'm in school
[14:35] <Guest76286> in Macedonia
[14:35] <babble> jin: I'm not ready to live in it full time yet - if you were a Gnome user, you may have a look at Xubuntu for a more gnome2-style desktop
[14:35] <Guest76286> some terroirsit just came in
[14:35] <Abhijit> Guest76286, what language you speak there in Macedonia?
[14:35] <Guest76286> please alert someone in my country
[14:35] <Abhijit> :-(
[14:35] <Guest76286> I'm just kidding
[14:35] <Guest76286> we speak Macedonian
[14:35] <shaneo>  Guest76286 thats not funny
[14:36] <Abhijit> !macedonian
[14:36] <Guest76286> is this a support chat ?
[14:36] <crossfader> i think so
[14:36] <_Marcus> Guest76286: For Ubuntu, it is the support chat.
[14:36] <crossfader> and i hope so
[14:36] <Guest76286> can some help me install flash player on here
[14:36] <monohedron> only if that terrorist runs on ubuntu and has an untainted kernel
[14:36] <shaneo> mehdi, sudo apt-get install x264 ffmpeg mplayer mencoder
[14:36] <Guest76286> we kindda removed it :
[14:37] <Guest76286> and now it's not working
[14:37] <_Marcus> Install it again then
[14:37] <shaneo> Guest76286, check the software center for flash installer
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> root > Guest60791
[14:38] <Guest76286> our computers were locked from most use
[14:38] <Guest76286> we hacked in using the terminal
[14:38] <Guest76286> and made admin accounts
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> oops, wrong factoid; sorry.
[14:38] <Guest76286> then we installed some un supportive software
[14:39] <_Marcus> Guest76286: That's not the correct terminology for "hacked" but okay.
[14:39] <Guest76286> and I think that broke the flah player
[14:39] <Guest76286> now when we try to delete that
[14:39] <_Marcus> Guest76286: You said you removed Flash player?
[14:39] <Guest76286> we can't
[14:39] <eikaiewa> so ... no grub for me.
[14:39] <eikaiewa> any other way to get my pc to do something?
[14:39] <eikaiewa> hmmm
[14:39] <Guest76286> is there a way ?
[14:40] <_Marcus> Guest76286: What software did you install that you think made it stop working?
[14:40] <Guest76286> 1 sec ....
[14:40] <shaneo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/ <----- help please
[14:40] <Guest76286> I think the macroedia flash plugin
[14:40] <Guest76286> broke it
[14:41] <Guest76286> because it was un supportive
[14:41] <_Marcus> Guest76286: So Flash broke Flash?
[14:41] <Guest76286> on this version
[14:41] <meerkats> ok, another approach: the HDD is labelled "Volume1", but mount point is usb0, how do I make the mount point "Volume1"?
[14:41] <monohedron> shaneo, have you tried to add another ppa?
[14:41] <shaneo> yes many
[14:41] <bazhang> shaneo, did you try to purge that ppa first?
[14:41] <shaneo> same error everytime
[14:41] <shaneo> yes
[14:41] <shaneo> its not even added theres nothing to purge
[14:41] <Guest76286> an error comes up when I try to remove it
[14:42] <monohedron> what was that ppa again ?
[14:42] <Guest76286> and it says I have to use synaptic package manager
[14:42] <_Marcus> Guest76286: if you don't have privileges to remove it, ask your system administrator to do it.
[14:42] <Guest76286> but I can't find it :
[14:42] <shaneo> Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)') confuses me the most
[14:42] <Guest76286> yeah
[14:42] <Guest76286> about that
[14:42] <Guest76286> these are school computers
[14:42] <r0hit> Meepsheep, try mounting manually via terminal
[14:42] <monohedron> shaneo, the ppa url please
[14:42] <Guest76286> and we don't know
[14:42] <r0hit> meerkats, try mounting manually via terminal
[14:43] <_Marcus> Guest76286: Ask the school to fix it then
[14:43] <Guest76286> who manages these
[14:43] <bazhang> !enter | Guest76286
[14:43] <_Marcus> Guest76286: Ask a staff memeber
[14:43] <mehdi> shaneo, after instalation should i restart PC or not? becuz it aint work
[14:43] <shaneo>  ppa:kokoto-java/omgubuntu-stuff
[14:43] <meerkats> r0hit, sudo mount /media/Volume1 ?
[14:43] <shaneo> mehdi, ??
[14:44] <monohedron> let me see whether it installs here
[14:44] <Oer> Guest76286, you hacked into schoolcomputers, made admin-accounts and now complaining something goes wrong?
[14:44] <mehdi> shaneo, i install those thing u said, should i restart my system or not too codecs work ?
[14:44] <r0hit> meerkats, find the device and mention in explicitly. example: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Volume1
[14:44] <monohedron> shaneo, "ublic key "Launchpad PPA for George Karavasilev" imported"
[14:45] <shaneo> mehdi, shouldnt have to restart
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers
[14:45] <FloodBot1> dzzozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <_Marcus> !ot | dzzozo
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers plz like
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers plz like
[14:45] <FloodBot1> dzzozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <GarryFre> Too funny no need o understand dialog. http://pulse.me/s/7hagG new use for iPad.
[14:46] <Guest76286> well
[14:46] <bazhang> GarryFre, dont paste that here
[14:46] <Guest76286> the hacking went well
[14:46] <_Marcus> !ot | GarryFre
[14:46] <Guest76286> but we are on a server
[14:46] <Guest76286> and one of my class mates
[14:46] <Guest76286> installed
[14:46] <GarryFre> Ok ok ok jeez!
[14:46] <Guest76286> unsupportive software
[14:46] <Guest76286> and that broke it
[14:46] <shaneo> monohedron, yeah i get that reply form others also but no ppas will add for me get that error everytime
[14:46] <Myrtti> !enter | Guest76286
[14:47] <bazhang> Guest76286, stop using the enter key like that
[14:47] <___jk___> http://pulse.me/s/7hagG
[14:47] <Guest76286> now we can't remove it
[14:47] <Pici> Guest76286: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:47] <shaneo> mehdi, also install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:47] <monohedron> shaneo, what does the log say ?
[14:47] <shaneo> where do i find add-apt logs
[14:47] <bazhang> ___jk___, wrong channel to paste that
[14:48] <_Marcus> Guest76286: You breaking into a system that you weren't supposed to be in and then complaining that something wont work isn't something I will help with. If you need help with something, ask the administrators at your school. If you are unsure who that is, then ask a staff member
[14:48] <mneptok> Guest76286: hacking and illegal access are frowned upon here, and you will not receive help.
[14:48] <mehdi> shaneo, i already did it
[14:48] <sskalnik> how to load a module by name?
[14:48] <babble> shaneo: have you tried reinstalling python-software-properties?
[14:49] <Guest76286> ok then were can I find synaptic package manager ?
[14:49] <shaneo> babble, python-software-properties is already the newest version
[14:49] <flood> hey, everyone, have a question, i've setup an ubuntu 11.10 and am trying to find any syslog config files, i know they are normally located at /etc/syslog.conf but it isn't there. I know syslog is working because /var/log/syslog and authlogs are logging stuff, how can i configure the preinstalled syslog, or do i have to install another package? thx!
[14:49] <mneptok> Guest76286: you will not receive any more help here. i suggest you stop asking and /part before i ban you.
[14:49] <_Marcus> Guest76286: Did you not understand that people said they wont help you?
[14:50] <shaneo> mehdi, than all codecs should be installed are you just trying to watch a movie or something
[14:50] <orated> Hi! Can anyone link me to a table which lists programs in Ubuntu alternative to Windows? (for a beginner)
[14:50] <babble> shaneo: I don't doubt that, but if you're getting python errors when running it, I'm curious if it's something as simple as a syntax error in the installed script
[14:50] <mehdi> i try yo watch movie but it gives me error
[14:50] <bazhang> !equivalents | orated
[14:50] <monohedron> shaneo, tail /var/log/syslog
[14:51] <sskalnik> orated:  also http://alternativeto.net/
[14:51] <shaneo> monohedron, http://paste.ubuntu.com/895172/
[14:51] <mehdi> shaneo, problem solved i should have installed SMplayer
[14:51] <meerkats> r0hit, $ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Volume-1 /media/usb0 will only load the HDD because of /media/usb0...
[14:52] <shaneo> mehdi, ah yes i forgot about that one
[14:52] <orated> Thanks bazhang sskalnik
[14:53] <l1f3> ~/who mneptok
[14:53]  * mneptok blinks
[14:54] <mneptok> _Marcus: you could just *ask* what client i am using.
[14:54] <_Marcus> :P
[14:55] <_Marcus> mneptok: That seems to be what people say a lot when I use CTCP VERSION
[14:55] <mneptok> _Marcus: maybe it's time you take the hint.
[14:55] <_Marcus> :P
[14:58] <pizza> hello
[14:58] <ryanprior> I can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?
[14:58] <compdoc> youre making me hungry
[14:59] <Glacee> Who should I talk to to go over all the bug I have with openstack swift running on precise?
[14:59] <sskalnik> try #ubuntu+1
[14:59] <bazhang> Glacee, #ubuntu+1 for precise not here
[14:59] <monohedron> sorry shaneo no idea
[14:59] <waxstone> !precise | Glacee
[15:00] <pizza> what version do I want to install on a netbook?
[15:00] <shaneo> monohedron, ok thanks anyway though i guess ill figure it out eventually
[15:00] <bazhang> pizza, the regular one, there is no netbook edition anymore
[15:01] <bazhang> !une | pizza
[15:01] <phatphoton_> Hi all, I have a problem with my bluetooth autodisconnecting after auth for a mouse. I have an hcidump to help, could anybody help me on that feild?
[15:01] <Dr_willis> and we are glad its gone. :)
[15:01] <pizza> 11.10 or 10.04?
[15:02] <bazhang> pizza, the latest 11.10
[15:03] <bhavesh> I deleted my Ubuntu partition with MiniTool Partition Wizard(windows). Is there any way I can undo the changes?
[15:03] <bhavesh> I didnt format it
[15:03] <compdoc> pizza, newer means better/more driver support for hardware
[15:03] <bhavesh> windows recovery once brought back the windows partition deleted with the same tool
[15:03] <Fraz> hi
[15:03] <bazhang> !undelete | bhavesh
[15:04] <Fraz> just trying out wine. im running a dual boot system with win7 and ubuntu...
[15:04] <cryptothesly> bhavesh: look to a liveCD and the testdisk package. I've had success restoring partitions with that before.
[15:04] <Fraz> can i run my existing windows installation of photoshop through wine?
[15:04] <bhavesh> cryptothesly: k
[15:04] <Fraz> or any app i installed on windows for that matter
[15:05] <ryanprior> I can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?
[15:05] <c0rnel> cryptothesly, , like system rescue cd ?
[15:05] <sudu> hello
[15:05] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: which system rescue cd?
[15:05] <c0rnel> sysresccd.org
[15:06] <auronandace> Fraz: no, you install the app in wine
[15:06] <Fraz> :(
[15:06] <cryptothesly> don't know, not used it, but if it has testdisk then it should do.
[15:06] <orated> bazhang: Other than !commands, could you suggest me a chart/table for commonly used commands as well?
[15:06] <auronandace> !appdb | Fraz
[15:06] <sudu> what u mean by whine? (^_^)
[15:07] <compdoc> Fraz, some programs run ok in wine, with minor problems. You might try Virtualbox instead
[15:07] <orated> !wine
[15:07] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: clearly that won't help with your 10.10 upgraded box.
[15:07] <sudu> wine????
[15:07] <mcnesium> i want to chroot my ssh upload user to his home directory, did so like described here http://j.mp/GFHBkR so now i can login with my sftp client (cyberduck) and see the home directory as root dir, can move to subfolders and back, but neither can i upload stuff nor download
[15:07] <c0rnel> cryptothesly, sure, i was thinking at live cd + testdisk ....
[15:07] <mcnesium> i read somewehere else that i need to set chmod 755 and chown root:root to /var/local and /var/local/upload (which is the homedir of the upload user), so i did
[15:07] <sudu> can i install photo shop with the help of wine???????????????
[15:08] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: for what?
[15:08] <pfarrell> hi! I'm trying to create a debian package for a piece of software I've written
[15:08] <mcnesium> before i did that i couldnt even connect via sftp
[15:08] <pfarrell> I took a sample packaging from a similar package (it's a pure python module) and am trying to use it
[15:08] <pfarrell> but dpkg-source just hangs!
[15:08] <auronandace> sudu: sure, check the appdb to see if it will work
[15:08] <c0rnel> cryptothesly, for bhavesh
[15:08] <mcnesium> but now i can see but have no rights to upload
[15:08] <Vert> sudu: Red wine might help?
[15:08] <pfarrell> I run dpkg-source -b <directory> and it just hangs there forever
[15:08] <_Marcus> sudu: Photoshop should have a Mac version
[15:08] <pfarrell> any ideas how I could debug this?
[15:08] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: ok then yes :D
[15:08] <sudu> .
[15:08] <c0rnel> :)
[15:08] <sudu> .
[15:09] <_Marcus> sudu: Derp, I was thinking Mac. Linux, IDK
[15:09] <Fraz> can i access my windows file through ubuntu? i want to copy some files over
[15:09] <_Marcus> sudu: Try this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/idiots-guide-installing-photoshop-cs5-ubuntu-1004/
[15:09] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: although I just tend to fire up an Ubu liveCD and install testdisk on it. Only because I always have those CDs lying around.
[15:09] <sudu> how 2 install photoshop
[15:09] <c0rnel> sure
[15:09] <_Marcus> sudu: Use the link I gave you
[15:09] <auronandace> sudu: ask in #winehq
[15:10] <auronandace> Fraz: yes, just mount the ntfs partition
[15:10] <Dr_willis> Fraz,  you can access window shares. or use ssh/winscp if you want to do a quick copy back/forth
[15:10] <resno> im trying to install postgres, but it wont start ubuntu 10.04
[15:10] <Dr_willis> or mount local drive...
[15:10] <Fraz> ok thanks
[15:10] <maximo> hello...
[15:10] <_Marcus> Hi Maximo
[15:11] <maximo> need to findout if I can upgrade to new LTS ubuntu?
[15:11] <mneptok> sudu: why not use The GIMP?
[15:11] <cryptothesly> maximo: from what version?
[15:11] <Dr_willis> !upgrade | maximo
[15:11] <maximo> from the last one...
[15:12] <maximo> hangon
[15:12] <Dr_willis> 12.04 LTS is not released yet. :)
[15:12] <ryanprior> maximo: what does "lsb_release -d" say?
[15:12] <phatphoton_> Quick bump on a bluetooth problem anybody?
[15:13] <Maximo> ryanprior: how do I do that?
[15:14] <ryanprior> Maximo: super key, "terminal", type "lsb_release -d"
[15:14] <Maximo> ok
[15:14] <orated> bazhang: Are you there?
[15:15] <bazhang> orated, bash guide you mean?
[15:15] <bazhang> !rute | orated
[15:15] <moe_egypt> hey guys, i need help, does anyone knw french chat rooms?
[15:15] <ryanprior> !fr | moe_egypt
[15:15] <bazhang> moe_egypt, #ubuntu-fr
[15:16] <resno> any help getting postgres installed and running?
[15:16] <ryanprior> resno: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=postgres+ubuntu
[15:16] <Maximo> ryanprior: 10:04.4 LTS
[15:16] <Dr_willis> resno,  tell the channel exactly how you installed.. and what the error messages are. use pastebin if needed
[15:17] <mneptok> moe_egypt: #ubuntu-qc itou
[15:17] <orated> bazhang: I meant a small chart/table for commonly used commands.. ? I saw !commands
[15:17] <bazhang> ryanprior, never use that here
[15:17] <resno> ryanprior: i <3 people like you
[15:17] <resno> Dr_willis: apt-get install postgres, but i cant login to its user, and /etc/init.d/postgres start doesnt show anything
[15:17] <ryanprior> bazhang, for my curiosity: your distaste or channel policy?
[15:17] <Dr_willis> orated,  many web sites have linux cli quick guides. saw one on lifehacker last week.
[15:17] <cryptothesly> Maximo: there is a way to upgrade from 10.04 -> 12.04 but it is not released yet so may well go horribly wrong.
[15:18] <mneptok> resno: postgres will install from the package manager. you then have to configure it and start it. bear in mind, i'm a MariaDB person, not a postgres expert.
[15:18] <bazhang> ryanprior, both
[15:18] <ryanprior> bazhang: thanks.
[15:18] <Dr_willis> resno,  you should use the service command.. and ive no idea what postgres even is.... :)
[15:18] <_Marcus> resno: Don't listen to him. Anything here can be Googled. What would be the point of a support channel if everyone Googled everything?
[15:18] <orated> Ok thank Dr_willis
[15:18] <Maximo> cryptothesly: how do I do it then?
[15:18] <resno> _Marcus: im not worried about those type peoples, i just want to figure out why it wont start
[15:19] <Maximo> cryptothesly: what is the proper way to upgrade it?
[15:19] <resno> mneptok: ive got it installed but status shows nothing...
[15:19] <Dr_willis> resno,  check the logs perhaps. enable verbose logging in its configs.  thats normal procedure in such cases
[15:19] <resno> Dr_willis: gotcha
[15:19] <cryptothesly> Maximo: Open Update Manager, goto the settings and tick "Proposed updates" and set the Versions to "All versions" - you should then be offered the 12.04LTS upgrade. Make sure you have applied all 10.04 updates before proceeding. The best of luck!
[15:20] <Maximo> cryptothesly: thanks alot
[15:20] <mneptok> resno: does ps show the processes running? have you tried "sudo invoke-rc.d postgres start" (or "postgresd" or "postgres-server" or whatever the init job is named)?
[15:21] <mneptok> Maximo: i would wait until 12.04 is officially released.
[15:21] <Dr_willis> waiting on release... good idea..
[15:22] <cryptothesly> Maximo: any problems - use #ubuntu+1 if before release
[15:23] <mneptok> Maximo: also, be prepared for "why would you do that?" reponses in #u+1 if the upgrade breaks things.
[15:23] <darckseid> hi some chanel from speack above mono develop ?
[15:23] <darckseid> ?
[15:23] <bazhang> !alis | darckseid
[15:23] <mneptok> darckseid: http://www.mono-project.com/IRC
[15:23] <cryptothesly> mneptok: someone has to test it :D I'm not brave enough.
[15:24] <Maximo> guys reather "wait then" thanks alot.
[15:24] <mneptok> Maximo: smart decision. go and play with other stuff until 12.04 drops.
[15:25] <Maximo> mneptok, cryptothesly, ryanprior: thanks alot
[15:25] <cryptothesly> or run it in a VM and play with it
[15:25] <resno> mneptok: im likely installing the wrong package
[15:25] <Maximo> yes sir
[15:26] <BoomerBile> wow, ubuntu runs pretty sweet on a p3 800 with 256 meg of pc100 ram and an old matrox mga g200 agp
[15:26] <mneptok> resno: sudo apt-get install postgresql
[15:27] <Maximo> mneptok: once 12.04 is released, can I just go straight into the upgrade from
[15:27] <Maximo> Ubuntu 10:04.4 LTS?
[15:27] <mneptok> Maximo: yes. but update/upgrade 10.04 fully, then move to 12.04
[15:28] <resno> mneptok: yea, did that no dice
[15:28] <zykotick9> Maximo: that's the plan - but its a huge change from 10.04 (gnome2) to 12.04 (gnome3), i'd expect issues ;)
[15:28] <Maximo> yes I do that automatically everyday...
[15:28] <mneptok> resno: sudo invoke-rc.d postgresql restart
[15:28] <Maximo> updating it everyday
[15:28] <cryptothesly> the "12.04 upgrade system broken" threads are already trickling in on ubuntuforums :(
[15:28] <resno> mneptok: what does invoke-rc.d do?
[15:28] <bittin> Hello, somone else have more problems with fan noise in the Pangolin beta?
[15:29] <mneptok> resno: calls the init script that's supposed to start the service
[15:29] <resno> ah ok
[15:29] <cryptothesly> bittin: try  #ubuntu+1
[15:29] <bittin> cryptothesly: okay
[15:29] <auronandace> bittin: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 until release
[15:29] <bittin> auronandace: ah okay
[15:29] <resno> mneptok: ah, just did a purge postgres * and install and bam all set
[15:30] <auronandace> cryptothesly: beat me to it :)
[15:30] <cryptothesly> first time for eveyrthing!
[15:30] <mneptok> resno: smashing!
[15:30] <Gits-TLM> Hey guys, when I was trying to set fonts for terminal, I came across two 'monospace fonts'. 1. Ubuntu mono 2. monospace. I really liked the 2nd one but can't find it anywhere in ubuntu. Where is it located?
[15:31] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: are you a person that needs large typefaces in CLI?
[15:31] <Gits-TLM> not particularly.
[15:32] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download  <--- i use "Crisp" (third from bottom)
[15:32] <Gits-TLM> From GNOME-tweak, the second one is just name 'monospace'. But I can't find it anywhere in /usr/share/fonts mneptok
[15:32] <ryanprior> I can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?'
[15:32] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: that "Crisp" font at 12pt is TTY heaven :)
[15:33] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: "Monospace" is a placeholder for whatever you define system-wide as your Monospace font. it is not a typeface itself.
[15:34] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: terminal fonts should always be monospaced to preserve columnular output
[15:34] <meerkats> if anyone cares to take a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11785238#post11785238
[15:34] <zykotick9> ryanprior: are you installing onto raid or something?  the "is /dev mounted" is due to improper chrooting, see link in "/msg ubottu grub2"
[15:34] <Gits-TLM> So, how do I get the one set default by ubuntu as the monospace atm mneptok ?
[15:35] <pizza> is 12.04 worth a look for a noob?
[15:35] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: i don't understand the question.
[15:35] <Gits-TLM> I mean, I want that in my arch linux install as well, mneptok
[15:35] <shaneo> pizza, yes but install it in a VM
[15:35] <zykotick9> pizza: no - the only point of 12.04 right now is to report bugs, do you want to do that?
[15:35] <ryanprior> zykotick9: I'm just trying to install onto my one hard drive - no RAID.
[15:35] <shaneo> just to give it a shot
[15:35] <pizza> bugs.
[15:36] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: look through the font prefs and see what you have defined as your monospace font.
[15:36] <jakob_o> js
[15:36] <shaneo> its nice i cant wait till its released by far the best ubuntu so far
[15:36] <zykotick9> ryanprior: ah, it it a large drive 2+TB?
[15:36] <pizza> nope.  I will stick with 11.10
[15:36] <ryanprior> zykotick9: Nope, 300gb.
[15:36] <pizza> when does 12 come out?
[15:36] <Gits-TLM> mneptok: you mean /usr/share/fonts right?
[15:36] <mneptok> ryanprior: md5sum the .iso you downloaded to make sure it's bit-perfect?
[15:37] <zykotick9> ryanprior: do you have some "virus" support in your BIOS (guarding the MBR)?
[15:37] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: no, i mean the font preferences in GNOME/Unity
[15:37] <ryanprior> mneptok: Yup, I've got an official disc from Canonical too.
[15:37] <ryanprior> zykotick9: how would I know if I did? I've never hard of BIOS virus support.
[15:37] <ryanprior> heard*
[15:38] <Gits-TLM> mneptok: how do I do that?
[15:38] <mneptok> Gits-TLM: not sure. i am an XFCE user, and things are different from my GNOME2 days.
[15:39] <Gits-TLM> zzz
[15:39] <monohedron> Gits-TLM, what  version are you on?
[15:39] <altair_> Hello I am a Hacker does anyone need some help ?
[15:40] <f4_> hello
[15:40] <phatphoton_> altair_: you good with blutooth stuff?
[15:40] <altair_> Any girls here ?
[15:40] <altair_> Yes I am
[15:40] <zykotick9> !ot | altair_
[15:40] <mneptok> altair_: do i really need to warn you *again*?
[15:40] <altair_> pardon ?
[15:41] <mneptok> altair: Guest76286: you will not receive any more help here. i suggest you stop asking and /part before i ban you.
[15:41] <altair_> what r u gonna do
[15:41] <mneptok> altair_: i warned you about "hacking" discussions more than an hour ago.
[15:41] <bazhang> altair_, you were here as a guest account earlier. changing you rnick wont get hacking help this time either
[15:41] <auronandace> altair_: he just said
[15:41] <phatphoton_> altair_: My bluetooth mouse can't connect and an hcidump says the host is disconnecting it right after auth
[15:41] <theTroy> can someone recommend a hex editor that can read unicode? I have a corrupt file that I need to salvage, and it is not written in English
[15:42] <f4_> I'm trying to setup a reverse tunnel through ssh. I've already done that but it's listenning on the server on 127.0.0.1:port. This time I need to have it accessible from outside so it must listen on 0.0.0.0:port
[15:42] <f4_> is there something to modify in the shhd configuration?
[15:43] <crossfader> altair_ i always need help
[15:43] <auronandace> crossfader: he was kicked
[15:43] <usacomputertec> Ok, I have a question, I'm running 11.04 Natty, and every time I try to open a game it fails to run, I can open any program or file, but no games. Why?
[15:44] <usacomputertec> I use to until recently
[15:44] <auronandace> usacomputertec: games within wine? or native linux games?
[15:45] <usacomputertec> native ones
[15:45] <usacomputertec> and wine ones
[15:45] <usacomputertec> but SNES9X works
[15:45] <usacomputertec> and Java and Flash games
[15:45] <usacomputertec> but urbanterror, tux racer, and stuff like that doesn't open
[15:45] <auronandace> usacomputertec: for wine games, the guys at #winehq recommend turning off compiz
[15:45] <usacomputertec> Compiz isn't on
[15:46] <pb97> can anyone tell me a good racing game???
[15:46] <usacomputertec> Hmmm aurondance some of the errors I'm getting in the terminal are due to missing .pnpg files
[15:46] <usacomputertec> png
[15:46] <usacomputertec> missing gtk themes
[15:46] <usacomputertec> maybe I need to reinstall my themes
[15:47] <mneptok> theTroy: i don't edit hex much (i don't think i have any old EBCIDIC around ;) ) but jEdit has some hex plugins. and jEdit certainly does Unicode.
[15:48] <theTroy> mneptok: yeah.. but does the hex plugin do unicode? since np++ hex plugin doesnt, while the editor itself does
[15:48] <auronandace> usacomputertec: recently updated the kernel or graphics drivers?
[15:48] <mneptok> theTroy: like i say, i have no idea. but i noticed my editor does hex. and i know it's Unicode friendly.
[15:48] <usacomputertec> aurondance no
[15:48] <mneptok> theTroy: that's ... all i have :/
[15:49] <theTroy> mneptok: thanks :) Ill keep looking
[15:49] <auronandace> !tab | usacomputertec
[15:49] <mneptok> theTroy: sudo apt-get install jedit <--- then use the plugin manager in the app itself to grab the plugins you want. worth the 3m?
[15:49] <auronandace> usacomputertec: i can't think of much else that would make games stop working
[15:50] <usacomputertec> aurondance http://pastebin.com/b4wpyFX4
[15:53] <phatphoton_> Anyone want to troubleshoot a bluetooth problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/895240/
[15:54] <aaa801> Is there a way to set the desktop background for a user via ssh?
[15:54] <ikonia> copy the file to the desktop background filename
[15:54] <aaa801> which would be?
[15:54] <ikonia> it won't take effect until that file is re-parsed
[15:54] <ikonia> maybe xsetroot, not sure if that will work with gnome though
[15:54] <ikonia> aaa801: no idea, depends what they have selected as their background filename
[15:55] <aaa801> its just the default purpley one
[15:56] <aaa801> Also, is there a way to display a message to the local machiene user from ssh?
[16:01] <Fraz> hey
[16:02] <Fraz> im trying to mount my windows partition, but its not showing any files
[16:02] <aaa801> did u set the fs type?
[16:02] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[16:02] <auronandace> Fraz: where is the mountpoint?
[16:03] <Tetracomm> How do I check if Ubuntu supports a USB dongle that I am contemplating?
[16:03] <Fraz> the folder where its mounted to?
[16:03] <auronandace> Fraz: yes
[16:03] <Fraz> mnt/windows
[16:03] <auronandace> Fraz: how are you mounting it?
[16:04] <Fraz> 1 sec ill show you guide i used
[16:04] <aaa801> Tetracomm what dongle is it?
[16:05] <Fraz> http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu << auronandace  heres the guide i used
[16:06] <nissan> buenos dias
[16:06] <nissan> alguien sabe ubuntu serve
[16:06] <nissan> tengo un serve pero es ubuntu 10.04 server pero el problema es que me sale un error
[16:06] <nissan> #2003 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[16:06] <auronandace> Fraz: what is the output of mount?
[16:06] <nissan> la contraseña y el usuario están correctos
[16:07] <bazhang> !es | nissan
[16:07] <nissan> sorry
[16:07] <nissan> I can speak english
[16:07] <nissan> sorry
[16:07] <nissan> hi people
[16:07] <bazhang> nissan, #ubuntu-server , but its english
[16:07] <nissan> I have a problem with my server ubuntu
[16:07] <nissan> the error is :  #2003 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[16:07] <K350> Konqueror is not a part of kubuntu 12.04. So what do I ripp my Audio CD:s with instead?
[16:07] <nissan> but I have the user and password fine and this server is ubuntu 10.04 server
[16:08] <Fraz> http://pastebin.com/VdjUTUuX << auronandace
[16:08] <nissan> somebody can help me please!
[16:08] <bazhang> K350, install it. #ubuntu+1 for precise please
[16:09] <nissan> I dont understand this error in the server
[16:09] <nissan> but is in mysqladmin the error
[16:09] <mohanohi> hi..
[16:09] <auronandace> Fraz: you typed it wrong
[16:09] <Fraz> oh?
[16:09] <tolland> any idea why this request to httpd is waiting 20 secs to return;
[16:09] <tolland> http://pastebin.com/N3xq8SWg
[16:09] <K350> bazhang: oh, yeah that of course. And hansk for teh channel tip :-)
[16:09] <auronandace> Fraz: you missed the space between the device and the mountpoint
[16:09] <mohanohi> I need to search a list of files in the specific path and list .. is it possible?
[16:10] <Fraz> oh
[16:10] <nissan> hi people
[16:10] <Fraz> lol
[16:10] <nissan> somebody do of ubuntu server=?????????????
[16:10] <nissan> I need to help me for my ubuntu server
[16:10] <Fraz> yay there we go
[16:10] <monohedron> mohanohi, yes
[16:10] <Fraz> cheers auronandace
[16:10] <bazhang> nissan, #ubuntu-server as I said
[16:10] <auronandace> Fraz: no worries
[16:11] <nissan> ok thanks
[16:11] <nissan> bazhang:  thanks thanks ;)
[16:11] <mohanohi> monohedron : how? pls..
[16:11] <auronandace> Fraz: also you should use sudo in the future (no need to open a root terminal to mount something)
[16:11] <monohedron> use find
[16:11] <m477> do you know console mp3 player?
[16:11] <Fraz> ok
[16:11] <mohanohi> monohedron .i have around 240 files to find and have the list of files in a text file..
[16:12] <monohedron> now that is sligthly diffrent to what you said
[16:12] <mohanohi> monohedron : oh sorry..
[16:13] <mohanohi> monohedron : i need to search those files and copy to a location..
[16:13] <monohedron> mohanohi, just to make sure I have that right. you have a list of 240 file names in a txt file and would like to search for them in a specific path
[16:14] <mohanohi> monohedron : yeah.. but also should search in subdirectories within that path..
[16:15] <boarty> !list
[16:15] <monohedron> mohanohi, well not sure whether you can prime find with a file, I'd have to check that
[16:17] <monohedron> mohanohi, are the file names similar or do they have anyting in common
[16:17] <mohanohi> monohedron : files names are like MVI_0839.MOV MVI_0843.MOV
[16:18] <Klej> Is only way to install ubuntu as dualboot over CD or i can install with usb ????
[16:18] <Zaitzev> you can install it with USB yes
[16:18] <monohedron> so all mov files ?
[16:18] <Klej> Ok.
[16:18] <mohanohi> monohedron : yeah..
[16:18] <monohedron> are there any mov files in there that you don't want copied ?
[16:19] <mohanohi> monohedron : yeah.. i have to only search specific files in those MOV files..
[16:19] <capital> hello people
[16:19] <Zaitzev> Klej: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download - look at step 2.
[16:19] <mohanohi> monohedron : its around thousands of files in those directory.. :(
[16:19] <capital> hello people
[16:20] <monohedron> have you considered to simply write a script that loops through your files file
[16:20] <Klej> Zaitzev its only possible in ubuntu
[16:20] <Klej> i cant make it if am using windows now...
[16:20] <mohanohi> monohedron : Scripting part is i am so weak :(
[16:20] <Zaitzev> Klej: Oh but you can.
[16:21] <sitek82> hi
[16:21] <monohedron> you know there a is a specific channel that can give you elp on that ?
[16:21] <monohedron> i think it's #bash
[16:21] <auronandace> mohanohi: i'm sure #bash can help too
[16:21] <mohanohi> monohedron : oh .. ok..
[16:22] <sitek82> jak ja dawno na ircu nie bylem
[16:22] <monohedron> :) you'll get there
[16:22] <mohanohi> monohedron, auronandace : thanx for the info.. :)
[16:22] <HJE841> I'm cp'ing some files (~250GB) from a HDD to my NAS, but it keeps saying 'No space left on device'. Any suggestion?
[16:22] <bazhang> !pl | sitek82
[16:23] <sitek82> ok
[16:23] <auronandace> HJE841: it's pretty difficult to misunderstand the error
[16:24] <HJE841> auronandace, I know, but the disk is a 1TB disk and the NAS is 1.8TB in total...
[16:25] <Zaitzev> Does running 32-bit Ubuntu on a 64-bit system have noticeable differences in performance?
[16:25] <auronandace> HJE841: and before you started copying how much was the 1.8tb disk full?
[16:25] <HJE841> auronandace, just about 30GB
[16:25] <monohedron> HJE841, did you check the trash
[16:26] <dakira> hi. i just fixed a bug in a unity lens. I used bzr to pull the project from launchpad and fixed the bug. what is the recommended way to get the fix back to the developers? Surely bzrs launchpad integration somehow takes care of this?
[16:26] <sipior> Zaitzev: not really.
[16:26] <Zaitzev> sipior: I'm just sick of stuff like Flash not working 100% :p
[16:26] <HJE841> monohedron, where's that in an embedded linux environment? (CLI)
[16:27] <monohedron> HJE841, you just lost me
[16:27] <dakira> Zaitzev: it totally depends on what you're doing with your computer. Some things are handled more efficiently in 64bit so you'd notice big performance improvements.. if you just run office and games you won't notice a difference.
[16:27] <auronandace> Zaitzev: complain to adobe, i've used flash fine on 64bit for a few years now
[16:27] <monohedron> never touched embedded stuff
[16:27] <irule> hi, how may I install ip_alias? I need to create a new virtual nic
[16:28] <HJE841> monohedron, I'm accessing the nas via ssh
[16:29] <Zaitzev> dakira: Nothing much, regular desktop use, really.
[16:29] <monohedron> HJE841, no idea what NAS it is what OS it's runing or how it's setup so I can't really help you with that
[16:29]  * monohedron buys a bag of punctuations
[16:29] <Zaitzev> HJE841: type "uname -a" without quotes on your NAS
[16:30] <Zaitzev> auronandace: Flash did work fine, then suddenly stopped, I did some reinstalling and now it works partially.
[16:31] <Zaitzev> And it's Flash 11 which according to Adobe supports 64-bit systems.
[16:31]  * satyanash wants one too.
[16:31] <auronandace> Zaitzev: i haven't tried the 64bit flash (as far as i'm aware)
[16:32] <administrator> hi folks
[16:32] <bad_alloc> hi, is there any way to set the system volume to an exact value? i know hot so increase/decrease the volume by a certain value, but i'd like to have a command to set it to 50%. how would i do that on ubuntu 10.04?
[16:33] <danileigh79> Is there a PPA cleaner tool? It's taking my update too long to load... when I go through software sources, it doesn't list them individually, so I can't figure out which ones to remove
[16:33] <bazhang> danileigh79, ppa-purge
[16:33] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | danileigh79
[16:33] <Guest81420> do both versions of ssh have to be the same to connect to each other?
[16:33] <zykotick9> bad_alloc: check out "amixer"
[16:33] <HJE841> Zaitzev, uname -a: Linux delphi 2.6.33.2 #1 Mon Jul 18 07:15:26 CST 2011 armv5tel unknown
[16:34] <bad_alloc> zykotick9: thanks for the pointer :)
[16:34] <danileigh79> bazhang: got it, thanks
[16:34] <xzpeter> Hi all. Is there any chm reader that support highlight?
[16:34] <bazhang> xzpeter, try them and find out
[16:34] <bazhang> xzpeter, apt-cache search chm turns up quite a few
[16:34] <balus> hai im in a big trouble
[16:34] <bazhang> balus, with what
[16:35] <balus> i installed ubuntu 8.1
[16:35] <bazhang> balus, thats eol
[16:35] <balus> and now my all files are lost
[16:35] <auronandace> !eol | balus
[16:35] <balus> i think so
[16:35] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | balus
[16:35] <irule> how may I setup ip aliasing? this is a debian and I get ifup eth0:0 ..Ignoring unknown interface eth0:0=eth0:0 modprobe ip_alias FATAL: Module ip_alias not found.  --thanks!
[16:36] <bazhang> irule, debian?
[16:36] <soupeee> I have a bunch of unneeded dirs under /usr/src. What's the best way of getting rid of them?
[16:36] <danileigh79> bazhang: I don't know the ppa names I want to remove, they're not listed individually in my software sources
[16:36] <xzpeter> bazhang: actually I have tried chmsee and xchm which don't work. I just found chm2pdf which is interesting...
[16:36] <raido> auronandace: not if he installed server
[16:36] <bazhang> danileigh79, what about in sources.list.d
[16:37] <auronandace> raido: yes if he meant 8.10, 8.04 is the lts release
[16:37] <irule> bazhsang ubuntu 11.10, just testing you ha
[16:37] <irule> eather way, I need virtual nics! :s heh
[16:37] <bazhang> irule, its sudo ifup eth0
[16:37] <raido> auronandace: Doh! I thought he said 8.04. I see now he said 8.1.
[16:38] <soupeee> I have a bunch of unneeded dirs under /usr/src. What's the best way of getting rid of them?
[16:38] <irule> sudo -i gives me all you can eat root access bazhang
[16:38] <bazhang> soupeee, why do you think they are unnecessary
[16:38] <soupeee> no more room
[16:39] <irule> soupee leave the OS alone heh
[16:39] <bazhang> soupeee, thats not the way to get more room
[16:39] <sipior> soupeee: that isn't *exactly* the same thing, is it?
[16:39] <soupeee> well, how/
[16:39] <soupeee> ?
[16:39] <irule> soupee you should rather uninstall crap with the tools, not just rm
[16:39] <soupeee> fine, tell me the tool
[16:39] <danileigh79> bazhang: searched, no sources.list.d file or folder found
[16:39] <irule> soupee use synaptic
[16:40] <dimple_one> bleachbit is a good clean up tool
[16:40] <irule> soupee get the uvuntu server distro, it asks wether you want X or not, avoid all other groups and you get a neeny wheeny installation, I did that today heh
[16:41] <balus> i need help
[16:41] <irule> I have help
[16:41] <bazhang> balus, upgrade to a supported version
[16:41] <soupeee> only have 4g ssd and 8g sd card
[16:41] <balus> i installed ubuntu 8.1 using live cd
[16:41] <bazhang> balus, yes, and its not supported
[16:41] <auronandace> balus: why are you using an old release?
[16:42] <irule> bazhang so! why are my virtual nics not supported in ubuntu?
[16:42] <Zaitzev> balus: Why would you install an old OS?
[16:42] <balus> and couldnt boot to xp
[16:42] <carl_> CarlS
[16:42] <balus> bcoz i thought of updating after installing that
[16:42] <bazhang> irule, I'd need more info to give an answer
[16:42] <Zaitzev> You can't install Linux AFTER Windows and expect it to work
[16:42] <Zaitzev> no wait, other way around xD
[16:42]  * Zaitzev is shutting up now. :p
[16:43] <mun> Hi
[16:43] <th1ta> hello
[16:43] <irule> bazhang ifup eth0:0
[16:43] <auronandace> balus: why not just install the latest from scratch?
[16:43] <balus> and i couldnt find xp in my boot uption
[16:43] <bazhang> irule, why do you need virtual nics in the first place
[16:43] <danileigh79> Can anyone tell me where to find a list of my currently installed PPA's? It's not showing up in software sources
[16:43] <carl_> Anyone have a link to a good article on how to get a script in the init.d dir to start on bootup?
[16:43] <auronandace> balus: much cleaner than upgrading an old release
[16:43] <th1ta> how do i change permissions in removable usb device ?
[16:43] <bazhang> !upstart | carl_
[16:43] <mun> I suddenly can't boot. I'm getting an error saying error no such partition grub rescue. Could someone please help?
[16:43] <balus> and in places all the drives are merged in to a single storage
[16:44] <balus> felt like all my data is gone
[16:44] <auronandace> balus: use a livecd and see if you can mount the partition
[16:44] <irule> bazhang I have a public access point and need to give different service to different users heh
[16:45] <bazhang> irule, I'd ask in ##networking to be honest
[16:45] <balus> i used the xp installation disc and saw only two partitions
[16:45] <balus> while earlier i had four
[16:45] <preciseme> hI! I've got 12.04 and i'm trying to install ia32-libs, but it fails complaining about this: http://pastebin.com/Wk1BuLvT
[16:46] <preciseme> any suggestions on what i could try?
[16:46] <auronandace> !12.04 | preciseme
[16:46] <bazhang> preciseme, thats in #ubuntu+1 for precise
[16:46] <balus> and i installed xp in one of that
[16:46] <preciseme> AHA
[16:46] <preciseme> i shall do that
[16:46] <preciseme> thanks
[16:46] <balus> now also i cant see the other one
[16:47] <auronandace> balus: so you installed xp in a partition without knowing if it already had anything on it?
[16:47] <bnmorgan> could someone PM me with how to change the boot order from inside ubuntu so that it is not the default OS anymore?
[16:47] <irule> bazhang that channel is asleep hehe
[16:47] <balus> yes
[16:47] <balus> let me make it clear
[16:47] <balus> i have 160 gb hard disk
[16:48] <auronandace> balus: in that case the installer likely formatted it first, so what was on it is now not there, xp installed over it
[16:48] <irule> bnmorgan I know that one! ha
[16:48] <balus> earlier it was 30gb,30gb,30gb,60 gb
[16:48] <balus> so thats my 4 drives
[16:49] <balus> namely c,d,e,f
[16:49] <balus> and had xp on c
[16:49] <balus> i was installing ubuntu
[16:49] <bazhang> !enter | balus
[16:49] <irule> bnmorgan I know that one! ha https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:49] <Klej> I dont know what's the problem...
[16:50] <TeamRocket1233c> Morning guys!
[16:50] <irule> mornin
[16:50] <Klej> When i click on install it says that i have ubuntu installed
[16:50] <TeamRocket1233c> Or technically almost afternoon here.
[16:50] <Klej> but i cant boot him
[16:50] <Klej> what's gonna problem
[16:50] <Klej> only load windows 7
[16:50] <irule> TeamRocket1233c good morning, do you know how to setup a new eth0:0?
[16:51] <balus> during installation it showed only 4gb of c drive is used as xp and showed ubuntu can be installed on free space of 25 gb
[16:51] <m3talh3ad_> hello. I want to setup a network brigde with a wireless managed card.with brctl i get the error "operation not supported"
[16:51] <TeamRocket1233c> balus: You could try taking a second hard drive and installing Ubuntu on it and seeing of NTLDR will recognize the Ubuntu drive.
[16:52] <gio2831> ciao
[16:52] <gio2831> !list
[16:52] <TeamRocket1233c> irule: Hadn't gotten that far yet, somewhat new to Linux.
[16:52] <llutz> irule: "sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.x.y up"
[16:52] <irule> thanks
[16:52] <Klej> why i cant boot ubuntu
[16:53] <bazhang> Klej, is this a wubi install
[16:53] <TeamRocket1233c> Klej: Either GRUB screwed up or the entire install screwed up.
[16:53] <Klej> no
[16:53] <Klej> when i use install
[16:53] <balus> and after that there was no option to boot to xp and after doing some browsing , i decide to install xp.i used my xp disk and there were two partitions.one was about 135gb and other about 5 gb.i used the 5gb one to install xp and now im in xp and i can only see 5gb in my computer
[16:53] <Klej> he said me will i want to upgrade
[16:53] <Klej> but i cant run them
[16:53] <Klej> how to resolve it
[16:54] <irule> I think it does not work ...sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.3.254 up SIOCSIFADDR: File exists SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[16:54] <balus> my first priority now is to get back my other drives as they have lots of important files
[16:54] <Klej> anybody help me ?
[16:54] <Owner> how can i connect to telnet from outside the computer?  ive disabled the firewall but it still wont let me connect
[16:54] <Zaitzev> balus: That's probably because the drive has been formatted. You should open Device Manager and go down to Disk Management, and see what you find there.
[16:55] <___jk___> se me lee
[16:55] <waxstone> !bootinfo | klej
[16:55] <Zaitzev> Klej: You probably didn't install it correctly
[16:55] <___jk___> alguien sabe configurar gyachi
[16:55] <sipior> Owner: telnet? here in 2012?
[16:55] <Owner> i stopped UFW, and I can connect to telnet localally   its listening on TCP 6 :::23 but not on TCP4
[16:56] <Owner> how can i get telnet to listen on TCP4
[16:56] <Zaitzev> stop using telnet, dude.
[16:56] <Klej> waxstone how i can run it
[16:56] <Klej> if i am on windows 7 :S
[16:56] <Klej> i cant test it
[16:56] <superstraw> zomg telnet
[16:56] <Owner> im testing omsething
[16:56] <Owner> i need telnet listening on TCP4 not TCP6
[16:56] <waxstone> klej: boot to the live cd
[16:56] <Klej> how ?
[16:57] <Klej> im booting over usb stick
[16:57] <superstraw> telnet -4 forces ipv4
[16:57] <llutz> irule: so you already have  eth0:0
[16:57] <waxstone> klej: same   way you installed itr
[16:57] <sipior> Owner: are you using tcp wrappers?
[16:57] <Zaitzev> Klej: When you boot with the USB stick, one of the options you get is "Start without installing" (or similar)
[16:57] <Klej> yeah
[16:57] <Zaitzev> do that.
[16:57] <Klej> and what now ?
[16:57] <Klej> and ?
[16:57] <Owner> sipior: no
[16:57] <irule> llutz ipconfig -a says I do not
[16:58] <Owner> sipior: inetd decided telnet should only listen on TCP v6  which is idiotic
[16:58] <llutz> irule: ip addr show dev eth0
[16:58] <Owner> where do you change that
[16:58] <sipior> Owner: consult the daemon documentation then. probably just a config file that needs editing.
[16:58] <superstraw> Owner: telnet -4 forces ipv4, if that's what you're looking for.
[16:58] <sipior> superstraw: that's for the client.
[16:58] <Owner> i need the telnetd
[16:58] <superstraw> ah telnetd
[16:59]  * superstraw goes back to work, defeated :(
[16:59] <sipior> Owner: you should just need to change "tcp6" to "tcp46" in inetd.conf.
[16:59] <irule> llutz eth0 exists and works, there is no eth0:0
[17:00] <lifestream> Anyone know how I may be able to pass $color $font and such from a bash script into conky? I put it in my script but it doesn't actually seem to affect conky.
[17:00] <Owner> sipior: yeah i guessed that....but guess what 'tcp' means 'tcp6' in ubuntard land
[17:00] <Owner> pretty stupiod
[17:00] <gfc> :superstraw!: ah fellowPRIVMSG #ubuntu ::superstraw!: ah fellow telnetter
[17:00] <Owner> sipior: thanks
[17:00] <sipior> Owner: i wouldn't throw the term "stupid" around if i were incapable of consulting the inetd.conf man page.
[17:01] <balus> now i can see the 144 gb in computer management but i dont want to lose any data in it.it is shown as healthy unknown partition.so is there any way to get back my files and partitions?
[17:02] <auronandace> balus: do you know what filesystem it was?
[17:02] <TeamRocket1233c> GNOME 3 didn't entirely fail.
[17:03] <balus> i think it was shown as extension and swap in ubuntu and as a single file system in places in ubuntu
[17:03] <Zaitzev> auronandace: From where I sit, those 144GB is either a blank partition, or a linux formatted one. Either way, it seems like it's been wiped.
[17:04] <auronandace> balus: i guess you better restore from your backups then
[17:08] <Tiktalik> Any ideas on what package I could install to provide libGL.so.1?
[17:09] <auronandace> !find libgl | Tiktalik
[17:09] <yairgo> I'm on 10.04(lucid) and need to install gobject-introspection-1.0 which is not in the package repos til natty, anyone know of how to install it or point me in the right direction to install it
[17:10] <Tiktalik> auronandace, how can I find out if those have libgl.so.1
[17:10] <xangua> yairgo: compile¿
[17:10] <balus> thanks for the help
[17:10] <auronandace> Tiktalik: not sure sorry
[17:10] <Tiktalik> :(
[17:11] <xangua> yairgo: upgrade to natty, or upgrade to latest
[17:11] <yairgo> xangua thanks
[17:14] <douglaslucas> Anyone have an opinion on whether OpenOffice or LibreOffice makes .DOC, .DOCX, and .XLS look better for clients who are using MS Word on Mac or Windows ?
[17:15] <auronandace> douglaslucas: wouldn't it be the same across all?
[17:15] <monohedron__> nope it rednders differently
[17:16] <monohedron__> even renders
[17:17] <catcher> Looking to get a pair of large monitors - is there a limit on what size monitors X can run? Or is the limitation only on my graphics card?
[17:18] <auronandace> catcher: i think its the graphics card/driver
[17:18] <gvo> Graphics card only.
[17:18] <patryk_> elo
[17:18] <[Si]> catcher running 2 2560x1600 here and they run fine :)
[17:18] <patryk_> co tam?
[17:18] <nasa01> Hi, does anyone know how to boot ubuntu into a standard terminal (ie: don't start the login manager) when I tried stopping that service, the boot process just hung
[17:18] <bazhang> !pl | patryk_
[17:19] <catcher> nice, thanks guys
[17:19] <auronandace> !text | nasa01
[17:19] <gvo> I'm sure there is a limit in X but it's probably 1000 times higher than your graphics card.
[17:19] <waxstone> nasa01,  add text to kernel line
[17:19] <catcher> [Si], what size monitors?
[17:19] <[Si]> catcher 30 inch
[17:19] <catcher> [Si], ooh.. $1k each?
[17:20] <gvo> [Si] Sony?
[17:20] <[Si]> something like that :) HP ZR30W, but ubuntu runs fine dual head with that screen res. ou are talking stupid money to go bigger.
[17:20] <usacomputertec> Why won't urban terror start? http://pastebin.com/b4wpyFX4
[17:20]  * catcher jealous
[17:22] <catcher> Has anyone attempted a vertical monitor setup? I'm a programmer, so vertical real estate is prime.
[17:22] <nasa01> Thanks ubottu and waxstone -- although that solution may not work... I am trying to test out a different WM and the single user mode may not support that.  I will try to verify
[17:22] <[Si]> usacomputertec you are missing the 3d extensions on your X server. SO I guess the wrong driver is installed.
[17:24] <gvo> catcher How about an editor that has two columns instead?
[17:24] <monohedron> apologies that was totally unintentinal
[17:24] <catcher> gvo, I regularly have 4 columns going in emacs, but more height would be killer.
[17:25] <llutz> catcher: xrandr --above/--below
[17:25] <catcher> gvo, more context would be nicer than more frames.
[17:25] <catcher> llutz, ty, I'll check into that..
[17:25] <gvo> Many years ago someone, I forget who, had a monitor that was tall and narrow, but I think that was back in the dos days.  It was for displaying a whole 8.5  x 11 page.
[17:26] <[Si]> gvo apple used to have massive Portrate CRTs for like newspapers.
[17:26] <gvo> I haven't seen any lately.
[17:26] <catcher> the hunt begins, starting with xrandr :)
[17:26] <gvo> Right, I forgot about those.
[17:26] <llutz> lots of monitors have pivot-function, just turn them to portrait
[17:27] <usacomputertec_> why won't my Video games start? http://pastebin.com/b4wpyFX4
[17:28] <catcher> llutz, wish the nvidia driver had native support for portrait, life would be easy..
[17:28] <CellTech> My gf bought us windows phones. Do we have a program yet that will let us sync them?
[17:29] <london> has anybody tried running backtrack on ubuntu in virtual box
[17:29] <Klej> I have the grub menu,but when i click on every ubuntu it goes to black screen
[17:29] <DJ> CellTech: what are you trying to do?
[17:29] <[Si]> usacomputertec I already answered that question.
[17:29] <CellTech> DJ: Windows phones require zune software to sync and instal media to the phone. Similar to iTunes but only MS this time
[17:30] <usacomputertec_> [Si] sorry, I missed it
[17:30] <[Si]> usacomputertec_ this may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11387260#post11387260
[17:30] <usacomputertec_> [Si] I tried looking for the answer you wrote in chat and didn't find it
[17:31] <Klej> Zaitzev
[17:31] <usacomputertec_> [Si] I was away from keyboard at a court case.
[17:31] <michal_> 	Hi,I have managed to install software on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I can see all networks arround but when I'm trying to connect to my own it's not working.I know that WPA may be an issue so I have created password:letters and digits no spaces.Still not working.Help!
[17:31] <Klej> I have the grub menu, but when i click on any of ubuntu os...it goes to black
[17:31] <[Si]> !nomodeset Klej
[17:32] <Klej> !nomodeset
[17:32] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Klej
[17:32] <[Si]> Klej check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[17:32] <michal_> 	Hi,I have managed to install software for NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I can see all networks arround but when I'm trying to connect to my own it's not working.I know that WPA may be an issue so I have created password:letters and digits no spaces.Still not working.Help!
[17:34] <michal_> Hi,I have managed to install software for NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I can see all networks arround but when I'm trying to connect to my own it's not working.I know that WPA may be an issue so I have created password:letters and digits no spaces.Still not working.Help!
[17:35] <Klej> acpi_osi=
[17:35] <Klej> where i write this code ?
[17:35] <gvo> michal_ temporarily remove the WPA password from your box.
[17:35] <gvo> michal_: make sure you can connect without a password first.
[17:36] <michal_> gvo you mean my router
[17:36] <gvo> Yes
[17:36] <waxstone> Klej, read the links provided to you
[17:36] <Klej> i've read
[17:36] <michal_> do it firs without password and than will work?
[17:36] <Klej> but links are not useful!
[17:37] <gvo> No that will tell you if you have a general problem in connection or an authenication problem.
[17:37] <michal_> ohhhh
[17:38] <gvo> michal_ if you can connect with no password in the router then you know that you've got an authentication problem.
[17:38] <gvo> Otherwise you have a network, driver or other issue.
[17:39] <michal_> but how it can see every single network arround but can't connect to it,this is something I do not get
[17:39] <michal_> I'm to tick for linux
[17:39] <tsakali> hi , greek?????????????
[17:40] <[Si]> Klej edit the file syslinux.cfg on the usb stick, find the entry you are trying to boot and add nomodeset to the append line
[17:40] <LjL> !gr | tsakali
[17:40] <Nir> hi,someone can help me to install a printer of brother mfc 7320?
[17:41] <Klej> [Si] --- when i edit it...it will need new installation ????
[17:41] <tsakali> thanks
[17:41] <ednolivers> is there a multiarch-support package for i686 lucid?
[17:41] <[Si]> no just boot off it, it's a usb stick I seem to recall from earlier right?
 if there will be driver issue schould I uninstall everything and do it again?
[17:42] <Klej> [Si] what code i need to add  ????
[17:42] <michal_> and if it's authentication issue what should I do than?
[17:42] <[Si]> Klej nomodeset
[17:43] <Klej> mhm ok
[17:43] <mirko1> Hi! Can somebody please help me repairing Totem? I've already posted a question on the Ubuntu forum, but no answer yet, and since this isn't my system but I've messed it up it's somewhat burning to me.
[17:43] <mirko1> Link to the question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1944980
[17:43] <mirko1> Or should I better paste the question in here?
[17:43] <Nir> hi,someone can help me to install a printer of brother mfc 7320?
[17:43] <Klej> [Si] when i add that code....how i can run installed system from grub menu
[17:43] <Klej> will it use without usb or not ?
[17:44] <raido> Nir: The brothe site has good instructions and Linux drivers.
[17:44] <[Si]> you were asking about a usb disk right Klej?
[17:44] <Nir> ok raido i try thanks
[17:45] <Klej> [Si] noooo :)
[17:45] <raido> Nir: Ok, Iv done a couple Brothers following their instructions. No problems.
[17:45] <Klej> [Si] i have installed ubuntu,but when i run it from grub menu it goes to black screen
[17:45] <[Si]> Klej ok so you can't boot your system, in GRUB find the entry you want to boot press e
[17:45] <Klej> yeah ?
[17:46] <[Si]> in the next screen, find the line with "quiet splash" in it
[17:46] <Klej> ok ?
[17:46] <[Si]> type nomodeset before quiet splash
[17:46] <Klej> and how to save ?
[17:46] <Klej> [Si] how to save it ?
[17:47] <collin> Anyone know the difference between FUSE and ext3 filesystems? Or are they not comparable?
[17:47] <zykotick9> collin: fuse isn't a filesystem
[17:47] <monohedron> Klej, once it it is in press boot
[17:47] <Atlantic777> Is there any wiki page about boot problems troubleshooting?
[17:48] <sipior> collin: FUSE is a framework for creating and manipulating filesystems in user-space. ext3 is a filesystem implemented at the operating system level.
[17:48] <[Si]> f10 will make it boot
[17:48] <[Si]> or ctrl-X
[17:48] <profelm> Hey guys, I was wondering if there's a good svn interface I can use.
[17:48] <monohedron> ohoh
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> mirko1, Here's what I'd do: in Synaptic, 'Fix broken packages" also in Synaptic, totally remove Totem, then reinstall.. No guarantees, that's just what I'd try if you haven't already.
[17:48] <[Si]> once you are in the system and it works edit /etc/default/grub to modify the default boot line then update-grub
[17:49] <cryptotheslow> Atlantic777, how far does your boot get?
[17:49] <monohedron> [Si], kej got lost
[17:49] <dicannamas> good afaternoon, what is the command to delete and purge a file on the terminal?
[17:49] <kltrg> Hi, I'd like to extract the mms: adress out of that html file using bash: http://13h15-le-samedi.france2.fr/?page=accueil&rubrique=monoeil So far, I tried 'curl http://13h15-le-samedi.france2.fr/?page=accueil&rubrique=monoeil | grep mms:' but it doesn't work
[17:49] <Atlantic777> cryptotheslow: until grub. Actually, im trying to help Klej, he has some problems. He'll be right back.
[17:50] <cryptotheslow> dicannamas, rm is the remove command. Not sure what you mean by "purge"
[17:50] <[Si]> monohedron Oh :(
[17:51] <mirko1> Siderwinder1: thanks, but there are no more broken packages, but it seems to me that there's a codec library  missing and I can't find it. removing totem? hmm, sounds dangreous. would do that if it where my system, but the OP is a beginner a few thousand kilometers away from me. will consider it evertheless, any more ideas?
[17:51] <jaha> What are your thoughts on settings up a small 10.04 server on SSD? Which filesystem to use? ext3/ext4? This will be a stand alone net device. I want to protect against power failures and such as these are a possibility.
[17:52] <Fyodorovna> dicannamas, sudo apt-get purge
[17:52] <dicannamas> cryptotheslow, i had modify a file from Icecast2 and when i reinstall comes back with the same edited file
[17:53] <Fyodorovna> dicannamas, then the app a file is another do you mean a ap?
[17:53] <dicannamas> Fyodorovna, i belive i have to also put remove there?
[17:53] <Sidewinder1> mirko1, After you've reinstalled Totem (again, with Synaptic Package Manager), when you try to run Totem, it's error messages should list the codecs needed.
[17:53] <uictamale> Hey all, I can't seem to add a simple sudoers addition without breaking the syntax.  I simply want a user named 'joe' to be able to run 'apache2ctl restart'
[17:53] <Fyodorovna> dicannamas, depends on what it is so what is it you want removed.
[17:54] <dicannamas> Fyodorovna, i want to remove icecast2 completly and start from scratch
[17:54] <uictamale> My latest try is:    joe  ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: apache2ctl restart
[17:54] <uictamale> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 26
[17:54] <Fyodorovna> dicannamas, sudo apt-get purge icecast2    no removal needed that is what the purge command does.
[17:54] <zykotick9> uictamale: just a guess, but i doubt "restart" should be there
[17:55] <raido> uictamale: Not for sure but I dont think you need the "restart" part.
[17:55] <dicannamas> Fyodorovna, thanks
[17:55] <uictamale> I was just going by the man page - it says commands are comma delimited
[17:55] <zykotick9> raido: great minds...
[17:55] <uictamale> I'll try taking it out
[17:55] <Fyodorovna> dicannamas, no problem.
[17:56] <uictamale> nope, taking out restart doesn't help... same parse error.
[17:56] <raido> uictamale: ya, but in this case the command is apache2ctl and restart is just an option
[17:56] <Sidewinder1> mirko1, Another note; if the system in question is running 10.04, it should not need any PPAs.
[17:56] <uictamale> raido: Well, I did want the command that was allowed to be 'apache2ctl restart', because I didn't want this person able to run 'apache2ctl stop'
[17:56] <mirko1> uictamale:  joe  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: apache2ctl restart
[17:57] <monohedron> uictamale, how about a script
[17:57] <uictamale> mirko1: Same syntax error
[17:57] <Nir> raido what i need to download lpr or cupswrapper?
[17:57] <raido> Nir: Are you getting an error
[17:58] <Nir> no,i get to this site
[17:58] <Nir> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-7320
[17:58] <Nir> what i need to download?
[17:58] <Nir> lpr or cupswrapper?
[17:58] <raido> Nir: I installed both the LPR and the cups drivers.
[17:58] <mirko1> uictamale:  oops, sorry, you need the full path ie joe ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[17:59] <Sidewinder1> mirko1, Yes, after reading your post in the forums, tell your friend to stay away from all PPAs; 10.04 should be able to do anything he/she wants from Synaptic; especially if he/she is brand new to Ubuntu/*nix.
[17:59] <uictamale> mirko1: Aha, that fixed it.. thank you!
[18:00] <uictamale> The issue was simply it being a command that assumed $PATH instead of having the full path.  thanks guys.
[18:00] <raido> uictamale: ah, good news
[18:00] <Nir> how i do this after i download the driver?
[18:00] <mirko1> Sidewinder1:  the PPA was added much earlier only to get the latest VLC. it has been removed already. i think I'll try to remove totem on my system and see what that causes. then I can suggest to the OP.
[18:01] <Nir> raido how i do this after i download the driver?
[18:01] <raido> Nir: just go by the Brother instructions, then once youve finished, try adding the printer in the printer app. Be sure so look carefully for your specific printer, it will likely not be in alphabetical order.
[18:02] <Nir> ok
[18:02] <Sidewinder1> mirko1, It should work fine. I have used that method quite a few times in the past with no problems whatsoever. Good luck.
[18:04] <mirko1> Sidewinder1:  ok, thanks i'll try :-)
[18:04] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure. I hope it helps.
[18:05] <C1iFF> Yo, I screwed up on my home dir and mistakenly  moved tons of files there from my dropbox. Can any1 give help on writing a script to delete only these files?
[18:05] <cojack> hello
[18:05] <cojack> I have problem with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[18:05] <vlt> !here | cojack
[18:05] <cojack> I doesn't have vgaswitcheroo dir
[18:06] <MrHanjrah> any good tutorial on samba with netbios integration ?
[18:06] <manlymatt83> Hi folks.  What's the channel for ubuntu Precise Pangolin?
[18:07] <collinjsimpson> What's the difference between 'FUSE' and 'mount'
[18:07] <collinjsimpson> (Or are they not comparable again?)
[18:07] <___jk___> ola´
[18:07] <xangua> manlymatt83: #ubuntu+1
[18:07] <MrHanjrah> !mount
[18:07] <MrHanjrah> collinjsimpson: ^^
[18:08] <raido> collinjsimpson: I think FUSE is a gobetween the kernel and devices/filesystems not directly supported by the kernel.
[18:08] <zykotick9> collinjsimpson: fuse is like a virtual/non-real mount, where things mounted with mount require root permission and are "real"
[18:10] <collinjsimpson> ubottu, raido, zykotick9, Great, thanks! Couldn't find that info for some reason.
[18:11] <collinjsimpson> ubottu, Sound more intelligent than me, which is depressing.
[18:12] <sburwood1> I've an HP 2660 printer.  It worked well.  For no reason I can tell, it refuses now to print.  Any ideas as to what to look at and to repair?
[18:14] <m24de> http://3c921c66.hornywood.tv  HOT BRAZILIAN PORNSTAR GISELE GUCI  FUCKED HARD ENJOY
[18:14] <collinjsimpson> m24de, lulz
[18:14] <cm-t> Hi, I am looking for spec of OneConf for my schoolGroup for annual project. We will work for 12.10; anyone have an idea where i can get these specs(or nothing before UDS?) ?
[18:15] <nasser> ubuntu 11.10 doesn't detect my iphone 4s. what should i do?
[18:15] <sburwood1> Am I on the right channel for a printer question with Ubuntu 11.10?
[18:16] <MaindotC-droid> i have to continuously grep a value in the same directory throughout the day. i have a custom grep script to search the same directory but i dont want to use "read" and have it ask me for the search term...i just want it to accept the first value i pass it. is there a way to alias it like that?
[18:16] <collinjsimpson> sburwood1, Ask and see.
[18:17] <MalcomRenolds> I am not sure which channel to post this too, but I have an image which I suspect has a virus on it (some kinda spy software), what would be the best way to find out if I am right? (it would be a windows based virus)
[18:17] <collinjsimpson> MalcomRenolds, Run a Windows virus scan on it? Should detect it.
[18:17] <Klej> Did ubuntu have some taskbar ???
[18:17] <sburwood1> collinjsimpson: I have an HP D2660 printer that has given satisfaction.  For no visable reason, it refuses to print.  I send something to print and it immedidately stops and I get an error screen.
[18:17] <xangua> nasser: downgrade to an iOS version that oneiric supports, jailbreak it or switch to android
[18:18] <MrHanjrah> MalcomRenolds: windows based virus *mostly* doesnt run on linux architecture, use some windows app to make sure you are clean
[18:18] <collinjsimpson> sburwood1, whats the error?
[18:18] <MalcomRenolds> i am on ubuntu right now.... can you recommend a program that runs on ubuntu that I could use?
[18:18] <MalcomRenolds> MrHanjrah: I think I am, but I used a USB bootdrive just to be sure
[18:18] <sburwood1> collinjsimpson: Hold on, I'm going to try to print something.
[18:19] <xangua> !virus | MalcomRenolds
[18:19] <alex-> What are the differences between MINT and Gnome 2 in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:19] <alex-> between MATE *
[18:19] <nasser> xangua: i've already jailbroken it!
[18:19] <pingec> how do i check if ntfs partition is mounted in read only or rw mode?
[18:19] <collinjsimpson> sburwood1, I don't know how much help I can be, but it's worth a shot.
[18:19] <xangua> alex-: you can ask about mint on mint channel and pangolin on #ubuntu+1
[18:19] <nasser> not sure if i've installed oneiric yet
[18:19] <_jk_> s
[18:19] <_jk_> s
[18:20] <_jk_> ssssssssssss
[18:20] <FloodBot1> _jk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:20] <_Marcus> Stop with your spam please
[18:20] <MrHanjrah> pingec: ntfs partitions are mounted as read only imo
[18:20] <pingec> yes, but is there a way to tell?
[18:20] <_Marcus> Anyway, I have a question. Ubuntu has an option to install next to Windows, and it's safe, right?
[18:20] <_Marcus> The normal Desktop Ubuntu CD
[18:20] <nasser> xangua: sorry, i forgot oneiric is ubuntu 11.10! haha... anyway, though having jailbroken it, ubuntu 11.10 doesn't dettect it...
[18:20] <Tm_T> _Marcus: yes
[18:21] <_Marcus> Tm_T: Great
[18:21] <xangua> nasser: no idea then, i don't use or preffer iphone
[18:21] <alex-> thx xangua
[18:21] <_Marcus> nasser: Did you install the right software for it to detect it? It doesn't detect by default from what I've heard
[18:22] <jao_> hi may i ask what whats the difference in clamav updates main.cld from main.cvd, inshort the extension cld and cvd
[18:23] <_Marcus> jao_: I don't know exactly, but different extensions tend to mean different content.
[18:24] <nasser> _Marcus: no, i didn't. which one should i install?
[18:24] <_Marcus> !ipod | nasser
[18:24] <collinjsimpson> sburwood1, Sorry, got to go. GL
[18:24] <michal_> I have ubuntu 11.10 with Netgear WNDA 3100v2 adapter and it's not connecting.I have disabled password and it did connect straight away.Current security is WPA+WPA2,please help
[18:25] <nasser> _Marcus: i've already read the documentation, but it doesn't work
[18:25] <_Marcus> nasser: Then don't know what to say. I don't have anything running Apple's iOS to test it myself.
[18:25] <jao_> _Marcus, thanks freshclam stop working, so i found this manual download cvd but after checking in the clamav database /var/lib/clamav/ the updates is on cld files
[18:26] <MalcomRenolds> xangua: cool thank.... ended up using ClamAV and it said it was clean
[18:27] <MrHanjrah> for syncing my iPhone 4g, i installed windows xp in virtualbox, tried everything from open ssh to amarok and banshee, nothing tend to work
[18:27] <benny_> Anyone from the great state of Texas aboard....
[18:28] <nasser> MrHanjrah: I've also installed WINXP in virtualbox, but it doesn't detect it. do you have any idea?
[18:28] <_Marcus> benny_: That's offtopic. Please stay on the topic.
[18:28] <ohs> how can I compile a c++ file on ubuntu?
[18:28] <MrHanjrah> nasser: did you install virtualbox guest additions.?
[18:28] <_Marcus> ohs: With GCC
[18:29] <ohs> _Marcus: what is the command for it?
[18:29] <MrHanjrah> mehh, that doesnt effect, click on the usb icon on the virtualbox window while running xp,
[18:29] <ohs> _Marcus: I mean the usage of it?
[18:29] <MrHanjrah> connect iphone,
[18:29] <_Marcus> ohs: Maybe you should read some C++ and Linux tutorials
[18:29] <MrHanjrah> you should see something like apple inc, or similar....
[18:29] <ohs> definetely I need
[18:29] <_Marcus> ohs: But for one file, it's "g++ file.cpp"
[18:29] <MrHanjrah> click that, run iTunes, it should detect you iPhone
[18:30] <_Marcus> ohs: I think you can just use the command "gcc", but I never tried
[18:30] <theShadow-> hi
[18:30] <michal_> Ubuntu 11.10 with Netgear WNDA 3100v2 adapter and it's not connecting.I have disabled password and it did connect straight away.Current security  Mode:	WPA-PSK,WPA-PSK Encryption:TKIP+AES,WPA-PSK Version:WPA+WPA2.
[18:30] <ohs> _Marcus: thank you
[18:30] <_Marcus> Hello theShadow-
[18:31] <theShadow-> is there any way to change the search bar so it will search everything?
[18:31] <theShadow-> atm it can't find applications in the home folder
[18:32] <Fyodorovna> theShadow-, use the search in home.
[18:32] <theShadow-> sorry, i mean the unity searchg
[18:32] <theShadow-> so i can add it to the sidebar
[18:32] <theShadow-> actually nevermind, i can add it
[18:33] <theShadow-> but I would still like it to show up there
[18:33] <flood> stupid question, does anyone know if syslog is configured on default ubuntu install? or do i need to install a packagefor that?
[18:34] <nasser> MrHanjrah: yes, i've installed it
[18:34] <dtcrshr> I have noticed a new student, which is blind and use a VERY heavy app that talks when she moves the mouse pointer or change the position of the cursor. Is there some app like this, or some acessibility packages in ubuntu like this one?
[18:35] <douglaslucas> I have 64-bit Ubuntu, but can't figure out if for OpenOffice I should use the Linux Intel Deb package or the Linux x86-64 Deb one. Ideas?
[18:35] <Fyodorovna> dtcrshr, look at orca I believe
[18:36] <Fyodorovna> douglaslucas, which ubuntu release are you running libreoffice is generally used.
[18:36] <MrHanjrah> nasser: :)
[18:36] <_Marcus> douglaslucas: Use the x86-64 Deb one.
[18:36] <douglaslucas> Fyodorovna: 11.10 Ocelot.
[18:37] <douglaslucas> _Marcus: okay. What's the difference between the two?
[18:37] <Fyodorovna> douglaslucas, unless you removed it libreoffice is the install
[18:37] <douglaslucas> I do have an Intel processor...
[18:37] <douglaslucas> Fyodorovna: Yes, I have LibreOffice, but I want to try OpenOffice
[18:37] <Fyodorovna> douglaslucas, I don't think you can run both, not sure though.
[18:39] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: you're correct - libreoffice and openoffice share program names, thus only 1 can be installed at a time
[18:39] <douglaslucas> oh ok
[18:40]  * zykotick9 wonders why anyone would want openoffice these days
[18:40] <douglaslucas> I wasn't aware that LibreOffice is so similar and more developed than OpenOffice
[18:41] <edlik>  I lost video in firefox after update, I purged gnash, reinstalled adobe flash, restarted firefox and still nothing.
[18:41] <douglaslucas> I just switched to Ubuntu two or three days ago and have always previously used MS Word for .doc and .docx -- but now I need to either use LibreOffice or figure out how to get MS Word to work in an emulator (or whatever the proper term is) since I need to make .doc and .docx files for clients so they need to look right
[18:41] <douglaslucas> sometimes the formatting and margins and such changed slightly back in OS X when I was comparing OpenOffice to MS Word
[18:42] <MrHanjrah> douglaslucas: libreoffice can make .doc or .docx files
[18:42] <zykotick9> douglaslucas: get better clients ;)
[18:42] <xangua> douglaslucas: MS office also supports odf, if it's updated
[18:42] <wankino> edlik: I just purged gnash, and everything goes well.
[18:43] <douglaslucas> xangua: okay, that's good to know
[18:43] <zykotick9> douglaslucas: MS's ODF support is laughable
[18:43] <MrHanjrah> MS odf are not to be trusted at all
[18:44] <oxidizer> hi
[18:44] <zykotick9> MrHanjrah: +1
[18:44] <llamahawk> Hey i have a quick question: I have a Fujitsu N series lifebook with 1GB RAM and 1.73GHz CPU. do you guys think ill be ok installing 11.10
[18:44] <trkemist> I have a question about a dumb usb device
[18:44] <trkemist> anyone know how I can make a USB headset work with my computer?
[18:44] <oxidizer> h
[18:44] <MrHanjrah> llamahawk: more than enough
[18:45] <zykotick9> MrHanjrah: considering 1GB RAM is minimum ;)
[18:45] <llamahawk> MrHanjrah what about wireless drivers...its an intell GB 3200 or something.
[18:45] <llamahawk> i dont plan on running nay fancy graphics at all
[18:45] <MrHanjrah> zykotick9: i dont have any gui here, so for me i guess 256 mb would also do :)
[18:47] <llamahawk> FUCK IT...im jumping in and installing.
[18:47] <oCean> llamahawk: control your language here, please
[18:47] <MrHanjrah> llamahawk: that's the spirit, best way to learn something is to just jump in
[18:48] <MrHanjrah> oh and, F words are not allowed :P
[18:48] <michal_> NETGEAR WNDA3100v2 not connecting to network,when I remove password it works,how to fix it.I have ubuntu 11.10
[18:48] <nasa01> Thanks ubottu and waxstone -- That solution does indeed work (I had worked with GRUB before and didn't know about that mode).
[18:49] <waxstone> nasa01,  no problem ;P
[18:49] <llamahawk> MrHanjrah well i do have exp with Linux but havnet done it in a few years and i want to get back into it
[18:49] <llamahawk> so might as well image my laptop :)
[18:50] <MrHanjrah> llamahawk: start installing, it'll come back to you :)
[18:51] <llamahawk> man the installer has IMPROVED GREATLY
[18:51] <MrHanjrah> indeed
[18:52] <douglaslucas> I'm a really heavy Twitter user. When I had OS X I was using Tweetdeck. For Ubuntu, many webpages are suggesting Tweetdeck under WINE or Tweetdeck with the no-longer-supported Adobe AIR. I'm wondering if there's an application native to Ubuntu that's similar to Tweetdeck. Ideas?
[18:53] <dwm189> does anyone here have any advice on how to get version gobject-introspection 0.10.7 on ubuntu 10.04?
[18:53] <Myrtti> douglaslucas: tweetdeck in chrome/chromium?
[18:56] <ViaNocturna85> douglaslucas: I just checked, there is an app called destroytwitter that supports Linux and is similar to Tweetdeck
[18:58] <Chamunks> is there a really light ubuntu based distro anyone here can refer me to?
[18:58] <Chamunks> Something fairly userfriendly needs to be a pre requisite.
[18:58] <ViaNocturna85> Chamunks: how about lubuntu?
[18:58] <xangua> Chamunks: Xubuntu, Lubuntu even lighter
[18:58] <killer_b> quit
[18:59] <_jk_> hola
[18:59] <phirestalker> I am trying to install ubuntu on a new ssd I have tried USB I have tried cd, somewhere in the installing system phase it freezes up and goes black. It is the only drive connected. Is there any way to install ubuntu to a new drive from a currently installed system??
[18:59] <Chamunks> ViaNocturna85, hows the usability?  Its meant for an old p4 machine seems like it came from an educational facility but its not very fast and ubuntu would likely be too pokey.
[18:59] <douglaslucas> hmm looking into destroytwitter
[19:00] <Chamunks> ViaNocturna85, The user knows nothing about linux but the ubuntu usability is usually lost in lighter versions :S
[19:00] <oxidizer> hi
[19:00] <Chamunks> xangua, they used to link those on ubuntu.com but not any more :S
[19:00] <ViaNocturna85> Chamunks: I haven't personally used lubuntu before, but i would recommend perhaps seeing it on youtube? that might give an idea?
[19:04] <Chamunks> ViaNocturna85, kk fair I'll see what i can look up. :) Unless there are some other lighter distros that arent too lacking or difficult to install things like flash and codecs to.
[19:04] <phirestalker> On osx lion you can download an app from the appstore and install to an another drive from the running system. Is there a way to do that with Ubuntu?
[19:04] <oxidizer> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:04] <profelm> Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has any useful SVN tools?
[19:04] <ViaNocturna85> Chamunks: I think Ubuntu based distros are probably the easiest out there, and well supported, and lubuntu seems the lightest of the bunch
[19:04] <profelm> Or suggestions for them?
[19:05] <bastidrazor> profelm: svn --help
[19:05] <AwesomeNerd> hi
[19:05] <profelm> bastidrazor: I was wondering if there's something like Tortoise SVN for Unix.
[19:05] <syslq__> phirestalker: ubuntu adheres to fhs and you'd be breaking them, but it's doable
[19:05] <syslq__> phirestalker: you could statically compile an app
[19:05] <llamahawk> What version os Gnome is running on the USB interface for 11.10?
[19:05] <llamahawk> of*
[19:06] <xangua> llamahawk: oneieiric uses gnome 3.2
[19:06] <phirestalker> syslq__: I'm sorry I meant an app to install ubuntu on another drive from a running system
[19:07] <Zaitzev> phirestalker: You want to install Ubuntu on another drive, from within Ubuntu? and that drive is on the same computer as the one you're using?
[19:07] <llamahawk> aww
[19:07] <llamahawk> so pretty!!!
[19:07] <zykotick9> phirestalker: it's called "debootstrap"... non-trivial to complete i'd imagine
[19:07] <oxidizer> hhhh
[19:08] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: yes
[19:08] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | phirestalker if you're getting a black screen.
[19:09] <Zaitzev> phirestalker: In essence creating a third OS to boot into? Wouldn't a normal Ubuntu install do the trick, by choosing that drive during install?
[19:09] <Zaitzev> Uhm, not third, second. Sorry.
[19:09] <killer_b> hi
[19:09] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I'm afraid not, I can't get the installer to work
[19:10] <Zaitzev> phirestalker: Do you have a USB thumbdrive you can use?
[19:10] <Zaitzev> You could create a bootable USB and boot using it, choose install and go from there. I guess.
[19:10] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I intend to remove the current drive once it is installed on the new one
[19:11] <Zaitzev> Why don't you remove the current drive, install Ubuntu on the new with a bootable USB thumbdrive?
[19:11] <phirestalker> zykotick9: it doesn't go black until after it is done copying files
[19:11] <Zaitzev> it sounds like a hassle to do it the way you want :P
[19:11] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I tried that too
[19:12] <llamahawk> Installed and updating exactly 365 updates.
[19:12] <Zaitzev> Then there's something else wrong entirely, if you can't even install on a blank drive.
[19:13] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I tried USB and cd install, with only the new ssd connected with the same result, which is more likely drive or MB issue?
[19:13] <Zaitzev> phirestalker: I have no idea what it could be then
[19:13] <Zaitzev> Does it even find the drive when you try to install? Is it visible in BIOS?
[19:14] <vazili> Kamraarit qtsun teidät synttäreeille!
[19:14] <gfc> ubuntu
[19:14] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: yes it gets all the way past copying files and freezes after that, I know it is frozen because it stops reading the cd and the keyboard will not respond
[19:15] <phirestalker> if an install freezes up the entire computer could it be only a drive issue?
[19:15] <Zaitzev> it could be the cd itself
[19:15] <phirestalker> and if so how to prove it, I will have to exchange drive
[19:15] <Zaitzev> bad sectors and stuff
[19:15] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I tried USB as well as I mentioned
[19:16] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I prefer USB I always try it first
[19:17] <Zaitzev> what about trying to reinstall on the current drive you're on now?
[19:17] <phirestalker> any expert hardware troubleshooters in here?
[19:17] <Zaitzev> is that an option for you? just to see if it DOES install?
[19:17] <FLamen> ola
[19:17] <phirestalker> Zaitzev: I need that drive as a fallback, the way things are going
[19:17] <FLamen> ola
[19:18] <zykotick9> !es | FLamen
[19:19] <phirestalker> if I am having an odd hardware issue, what software would you recommend to track down which component it is?
[19:20] <l_r> hello
[19:20] <crazydiamond__> Hi. Can anybody explain what's "grep -v grep" ?
[19:20] <l_r> will ubuntu provide gcc4.7 ?
[19:21] <l_r> it has been released today
[19:21] <Galaxor> Some packages I'm installing cannot be verified.  What could be the cause of that?  MitM?  Or is there a more innocent explanation?
[19:21] <jrib> crazydiamond__: greps for words other than "grep"
[19:21] <crazydiamond__> jrib: thank you!
[19:25] <jors> Hi all.  Need some advice here.  Currently planning on wiping my dads' laptop and loading Ubuntu on it (he's currently packing Vista, which is CRAP) The machine's quite old.  1.86GHz single core CPU, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HDD, Intel graphics etc.  Vista never ran well on it, so I figured I might as well make the switch to Linux.  He uses it for basic stuff: browsing, email, basic photo editing etc.  Question is: Should I go for 10.04.4 LTS, or rather wait for
[19:25] <jors> 12.04?  Is 10.04.4 still good enough for his needs or what?  Sorry for being an a$$, maybe someone can help me.
[19:25] <jrib> jors: 10.04 or 11.10 then upgrade when 12.04 is out if you feel the need to upgrade
[19:26] <dlentz> jors, i'd go for xubuntu 12.04
[19:26] <dlentz> (or lubuntu)
[19:28] <collinjsimpson> Anyone know if it hurts to o-rwx system service configuration files ?
[19:28] <jors> jrib:  Yeah, I'm aware of the LTS upgrade path.  I ust need something stable, people keep telling me to stick to LTS's.  Just worried that 10.04.4 will be obsolete soon.  Or am I wrong? Is 10.04 the most stable version for the job?
[19:29] <flamen_> ola
[19:29] <flamen_> ola
[19:29] <jrib> jors: all releases are stable by definition.  As for whether 10.04 will be obsolete: it uses software from before april 2010 and will be supported on the desktop until april 2013
[19:29] <cryptotheslow> jors, 10.04 has support for another year.
[19:30] <flamen_> ola
[19:30] <cryptotheslow> ola flamen_
[19:30] <jrib> jors: honestly, if you are planning on upgrading to 12.04, I'd use 11.10 just so that change in interface will not be as jarring as it will be when going from 10.04 to 12.04
[19:31] <cryptotheslow> jors, or consider Gnome fallback on 12.04 ;)
[19:31] <Zehle> Hello there! :D My friend have a server that have been getting wierd messages from some IP :S I have a picture of what they have snt to his Ubuntu based server. How do you "paste" it? I know there´s a link right? :P
[19:31] <dlentz> that's why i recommend x/l/ubuntu..
[19:31] <jrib> Zehle: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:32] <jors> Ok, thanks.  Maybe I should just wait for 12.04 then, after all, it's only a couple of weeks away..., and yes, gnome fallback was OK (just not on 11.10 is wasn't)
[19:33] <cryptotheslow> If it were me, I'd wait - sling 12.04 on it happy in the knowledge that it has 5 years support and forget about it :)
[19:34] <jors> @cryptotheslow, yead, I guess that's the best idea.
[19:35] <netbus> how does one switch irc channels they're in with irssi??
[19:37] <danilo__> hi people!
[19:37] <danilo__> hi
[19:38] <DJones> netbus: "/window #windownumber"
[19:38] <netbus> cool, thanks!
[19:38] <DJones> netbus: "/w" is probably aliased to /window though, so you can do "/w 3" to get to window 3 etc
[19:39] <mythmon> Hi. Is there a way to get rid of oneconf? I won't be using it.
[19:39] <DJones> netbus: Or Press & hold Alt and left/right arrows to cycle through windows
[19:40] <mythmon> i tried to just apt-get remove it, but it wants to remove my entire DE.
[19:40] <netbus> thank you, DJones. :)
[19:40] <GhostConn> can someone help me out and take a look at this and see if you can see a problem
[19:40] <GhostConn> http://pastie.org/3649808
[19:41] <CacheMoney> is anyone running Ubuntu on a Samsung Series 7 laptop?
[19:41] <GhostConn> i have spent hours configuring this file to make .plymouth splash screen work and NOTING!!!
[19:41] <GhostConn> http://pastie.org/3649808
[19:42] <Zehle> Can anyone read this and tell me if It's any bad things in it? :P It's an accesslog from an ubuntu based server that has been sent some wierd commands(hacking attempts maybe)
[19:42] <Zehle> Can someone check it? :P
[19:42] <Zehle> It's the ones that does'nt start at GET or HEAD
[19:42] <Zehle> What does the X things mean?
[19:43] <Zehle> LINK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/895546/
[19:44] <CacheMoney> I'll buy someone a beer if they can help me to get boot loader working properly on my new laptop
[19:44] <onto> Hello! This is a question related to swftools and I hope I can ask it here. Does anyone know if one can extract text bounding box data using swfstrings?
[19:44] <_Marcus> How do I view the amount of hard drive space that I gave Ubuntu? I want to know how much it is taking up and how much is left. I installed it next to Windows XP, so it keeps giving the whole drive, not my partition.
[19:45] <GhostConn> _Marcus downlaod and install kdisk
[19:45] <_Marcus> GhostConn: Is there another way where I don't have to install software?
[19:45] <GhostConn> its in the software centre
[19:45] <_Marcus> Maybe something with command line
[19:45] <cryptotheslow> _Marcus,  df -h  in a Terminal?
[19:45] <GhostConn> its only like couple hundred kb lol
[19:45] <llamahawk> CacheMoney, thats an awesome name
[19:46] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, I see stuff like that in my apache logs too, no idea what it is though
[19:46] <CacheMoney> llamahawk: thanks
[19:47] <_Marcus> cryptotheslow: Is this it: /dev/sda5              22G  2.5G   19G  12% /
[19:47] <monora> q
[19:47] <onto> ah, I think I have it: swfdump -t file.swf
[19:47] <_Marcus> I gave it 25 GB, but that is only 19.
[19:48] <_Marcus> I meant 22
[19:48] <GhostConn> type df -h    that will tell you
[19:48] <_Marcus> Whatever, it seems acurate enough
[19:48] <Zehle> Cyptotheslow: Okej, well yeah it's wierd :S I would be really greatful if someone can read the X thing on this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/895546/
[19:48] <_Marcus> Thank you all!
[19:48] <cryptotheslow> _Marcus, probably the difference between GB and GiB would explain the diff between 25 and 22
[19:48] <oCean> _Marcus: sudo fdisk -l  will list the partition layout for all disks
[19:49] <oCean> (some of the space was used as swap etc)
[19:50] <whonch> Hi. Yesterday i updated my firefox from 10 to 11, and now many things do not work. I tried deleting all the configuration and reinstalilng it, with no success. I'm using ubuntu 10.04. What can I do?
[19:50] <Zehle> Is there any Computer/Ubuntu experienced creature out there that can read the X messages in this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/895546/
[19:51] <soreau> whonch: maybe try apt-get remove --purge <pkg> && apt-get autoremove && apt-get install <pkg>
[19:51] <whonch> ?
[19:51] <whonch> Am I the only one having problems with firefox 11=
[19:52] <whonch> soreau: I already tried that. For example, firefox sync doesn't work (when you click on it, nothing happens), and sometimes the back button is disabled
[19:53] <uglyoldbob> im having a problem with ubuntu 10.04 where double clicking a desktop link to firefox opens several instances
[19:53] <uglyoldbob> im not sure what setting would cause this
[19:54] <whonch> uglyoldbob: i'm also having problems with firefox in ubuntu 10.04, since the last update
[19:55] <xangua> whonch: the back button is disabled when ther is nothing to go back
[19:55] <whonch> no, its disabled even if you have been browsing for a while
[19:55] <whonch> but not always, just in some cases
[19:56] <p_> hello
[19:56] <Somnath> Hello :)
[19:56] <Zehle> Why can't noone help me?
[19:56] <mcb_> Zehle: Is that an log from Apache? All those "\xf6\" are strings passed in Hex form. If it is an apache log problably someone is trying to do some nasty thing......
[19:57] <p_> can some tell how to get google talk on ubuntu
[19:57] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, I did a little searching and that appears to be shellcode
[19:57] <xangua> p_: go to gmail or gplus and you can chat with your buddies
[19:57] <log> !gtalk | p_
[19:57] <Zehle> mcb_ Cryptotheslow:Thanks for the answers! Yes it's an Apache log!
[19:57] <xangua> p_: if you mean a desktop messenger, empathy is the defaul im
[19:58] <p_> thanks
[19:58] <Zehle> So is someone trying to hack it? :P
[19:58] <Zehle> ...or something
[19:58] <mcb_> Zehle: Seens like someone is tring to pass commands to your system. Normaly it is not for the good.
[19:58] <p_> im new to ubuntu
[19:59] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, appears so. odd Apache seems to respond with a 200 code
[19:59] <whonch> I'm going to delete my firefox repository...
[19:59] <Zehle> mcb_: okey I see :/ How to prevent it? How to protect yourself? :)
[19:59] <malla> test
[19:59] <Zehle> Cryptotheslow: huh?
[20:00] <mcb_> Zehle:  Best bet for me would to idenfy the IP of who is trying it and then block it with Iptables.
[20:00] <MrKeuner> hello, is there an application that audits my system and warns/suggests about (possible) problems
[20:00] <Zehle> Cruptotheslow: You mean that Apache has let it go thru?
[20:01] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, I don't think you can prevent the requests. Make sure everything is patched up to date on the server and including all CMSs, bulletin boards etc etc that maybe on the webserver
[20:01] <Zehle> Cryptotheslow: okej, so you can not just BLOCK the IP? :)
[20:02] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, sure you can, but you have many IPs making such requests
[20:02] <mcb_> Zehle: As i saw in the log, i is comming from a lot of diferent IPs.
[20:02] <Zehle> Aha, okej, so they aren't just using one pc :P Haha, I haven't read it that closely myself cause i'm not that good at it :)=
[20:03] <Angablade> I was wondering what part of source I needed to modify to allow my processor to clock higher. anyone know?
[20:03] <mcb_> Zehle: Are you using an CMS, Joomla, Wordpress? If so, try to update as fast as you can, and never forget to backup.
[20:04] <dlentz> Angablade, OC'ing is done in BIOS..
[20:04] <Zehle> mcb_: My friend says that he doesn't use Joomla or wordpress and he doesnät know what CMS is
[20:04] <Angablade> CMS: Content Managment System
[20:05] <Zehle> angablade:thanks
[20:05] <Angablade> No problem.
[20:05] <Zehle> What is Content management system?
[20:05] <Angablade> dlentz, thanks..
[20:06] <Zehle> ^^
[20:06] <Angablade> Zehle, it's a set of scripts that allow you to edit in a wysiwyg editer on the site, rather than having to edit a html file
[20:06] <Angablade> I wrote my own a few months ago.. Looks all nice.. XD
[20:07] <Zehle> He's not running CMS :)
[20:07] <mcb_> Zehle: You can go to http://www.joomla.org/ and they will have a good expalnation.
[20:07] <Zehle> mcb_: Explanation for what?
[20:07] <mcb_> Zehle:  What is an CMS.
[20:07] <mirko1> A CMS is a software which manages the content of most "web-apps", ie. it manages products, customers, orders, members, posts, uploads, etc, see wikipedia for details
[20:07] <Angablade> Hell, wikipedia is a cms
[20:07] <mirko1> right
[20:08] <Zehle> mcb_: Okej, but I just kinda find out! :)
[20:08] <Zehle> Mcb: Why did you ask about what he used then?
[20:09] <ericus> Hey all! Is it OK to disable watchdog? And how would I do that?
[20:09] <TeamRocket1233c> Hi!
[20:10] <ericus> Hey TeamRocket1233c
[20:10] <Zehle> Litel54 vis the one with the probem, He knows most of the things we've talked about so keep the conversation with him!
[20:10] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, because flaws in some CMS can allow attackers to upload executable files and other nasties, as can basic permissions mistakes.
[20:11] <mcb_>  Zehle: I just asked, because if you use a CMS, some of then has vunerabilities, and whoever is trying do mess with the site may be trying to explote some of those vulnerabilities. Thats all.
[20:11] <Zehle> Alright....:/
[20:11] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, ...  hence why those things need to be constantly kept up to date
[20:11] <Zehle> mhm
[20:11] <Zehle> Cryptotheslow mcb_: yeah, Isee :/
[20:11] <Zehle> Then It's basically just to keep it up to date :)
[20:12] <Zehle> Nothing ells to do
[20:12] <Zehle> else*
[20:12] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, is the webserver showing any unexpected behaviour?
[20:12] <Litel54> My site has a download section, but the atackars havn't been to thoose files as it seems in the logs...
[20:12] <mcb_> Zehle: And keep whatch!
[20:12] <Zehle> Litel54 is the one that''s owning the webserver
[20:12] <Zehle> Yes indeed!
[20:12] <GhostConn> he guys im running 11:10 and win7 on dual boot using gnu grub 1.99... how would I manage to make it look like this lol............
[20:12] <GhostConn> http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&biw=1920&bih=961&tbm=isch&tbnid=TN5IOezNboaHrM:&imgrefurl=http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/06/burgbeautify-your-bootloader.html&docid=ApTvI8485L3GNM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s1OLFTHL8Og/TCT6DhA48TI/AAAAAAAAAbo/Wqv2g1lPlqE/s1600/Radiance_for_Grub_2_BURG_by_shafin.png&w=640&h=481&ei=sodrT-_VBqq70QGv-tW9Bg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1624&vpy=180&dur=1571&hovh=19
[20:12] <GhostConn> 5&hovw=259&tx=163&ty=97&sig=105596676466637203371&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0
[20:12] <FloodBot1> GhostConn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <cryptotheslow> wth
[20:13] <GhostConn> didnt realize how big that link was SORRY!!! :(
[20:13] <Litel54> unexpected behaviour? Had some serious bandwith problems yesterday thought some one was dosing my server but nothing showen in the logs
[20:14] <Guest87461> Anyone know much about Airport Extreme on ubuntu. Does the PPC version of ubuntu 12.04 work out the box with that card ?
[20:14] <mcb_>  Litel54: It could be an sql injection attempt also. You should try to discover what is the code he is trying to use from all those Hex characters......
[20:14] <Zehle> mcb_: And how do you do that? Is there like an translator?
[20:14] <mcb_> Zehle: If someone know that, please give the link. :)
[20:15] <cryptotheslow> Zehle, I just googled sections of it and the first thing that came up was a WebDAV proof of concept exploit in C :)
[20:15] <Zehle> mcb_:  Haha, it doesn't exist?
[20:15] <mcb_> Zehle: I just know that is possible to do that.
[20:15] <oCean> Litel54: Zehle mcb_ cryptotheslow, Since this is really becoming offtopic (not issues with ubuntu software) may I suggest you move the discussion to a more appropriate channel? Such as ##security or maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:15] <saquib> m
[20:16] <mcb_> oCean: sorry.
[20:16] <cryptotheslow> sure oCean, sorry
[20:16] <Zehle> Where to go then?
[20:16] <oCean> no problem, thanks
[20:16] <oCean> Zehle: see my suggestion
[20:16] <whonch> ok, installing firefox 12 beta in ubuntu 10.04, because of all the errors that 11 has
[20:16] <Zehle> ocean: Yes ofcourse but you gave 2 alternatives! ;)
[20:16] <cryptotheslow> pick one
[20:17] <Zehle> offtopic
[20:17] <GhostConn> is BURG better then GRUB BOOTLOADER
[20:18] <log> !better | GhostConn
[20:18] <TimeKilla> Sup guys
[20:19] <tomawak> hello
[20:20] <GhostConn> ok I have three hard drive installed on my computer, and to install BURG i need to find out what number my 250Gb drive is ? for example (hd0)
[20:21] <GhostConn> i can only see it as dev/sda
[20:21] <GhostConn> i need to know example (hd0) lol
[20:22] <Guest87461> Anyone know much about Airport Extreme on ubuntu. Does the PPC version of ubuntu 12.04 work out the box with that card ?
[20:22] <oCean> Guest87461: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[20:22] <mcb_> GhostConn: hda are to old IDE drivers, all SATA, SATA II and SCSI devices appeaers as sda, sdb, etc.
[20:23] <Guest87461> Well any previous mainstream releases, same question.
[20:23] <mirko1> on modern ubuntu's (since 9 or so) IDE drives are also sd*
[20:24] <mcb_> mirko1: Thanks for that, I didnt know that.
[20:24] <mcb_> mirko1: Some years since I last saw an IDE..... :)
[20:24] <Guest87461> GhostConn: fdisk -l
[20:26] <mirko1> mcb_: have still some in use. never belive that 5year myth! ;-)
[20:26] <CacheMoney> I've been having trouble getting my bootloader to appear when restarting, so I'm reinstalling Ubuntu.  I'm on this step http://imagebin/204701 and I'm not sure which device to choose for boot loader installation
[20:26] <ikonia> CacheMoney: put the boot loader on the boot disk - nothing else
[20:27] <TheSimkin> i am displeased with grub + ubuntu
[20:27] <TheSimkin> why does ubuntu make a many hundreds of lines long grub config!?!?!
[20:27] <ikonia> CacheMoney: keep your setup simple, the boot loader goes on the mbr of the boot disk, and the boot loader goes in the /boot partition
[20:27] <jeroen__> hello
[20:27] <TheSimkin> it seems ridiculous.
[20:27] <ikonia> TheSimkin: it's not a good config, but it is the reality.
[20:27] <TheSimkin> ikonia: but why
[20:27] <jeroen__> could someone tell me how i can change my keyboard settings in Xubuntu?
[20:27] <TheSimkin> what does it do?
[20:28] <TheSimkin> it doesn't even handle raid drives properly
[20:28] <ikonia> TheSimkin: caters for a lot of options
[20:28] <jeroen__> i've got some layout problems
[20:28] <TheSimkin> doesn't seem to cater to anything special.  just obfustification :(
[20:28] <ikonia> TheSimkin: what type of raid ?
[20:28] <TheSimkin> raid 1
[20:28] <ikonia> TheSimkin: it does cater for a lot of setups
[20:28] <ikonia> TheSimkin: hardware/software/fakeraid
[20:28] <TheSimkin> mdadm
[20:29] <ikonia> TheSimkin: works fine with mdadm created raid 1
[20:29] <heph> hey guys, how can i modify the 'Ubuntu/Ubuntu 2D' selector at the graphical login prompt on oneiric? I want to make sure the window manager runs with 'optirun' prepended for my video card
[20:29] <Guest87461> If ubuntu 11.10 supports rt2870 ...would the same version but PPC also support that card ?
[20:29] <ikonia> Guest87461: not always
[20:29] <TheSimkin> ikonia: not from my experiences.. drive fails.. reboot some days later.. grub failures.
[20:30] <jeroen__> sorry, i cant fix my problem
[20:30] <ikonia> TheSimkin: when you replace the drive and rebuild the array, you need to update grub,
[20:30] <jeroen__> would you guys be so kind?
[20:30] <TheSimkin> ikonia: kinda hard to do when you can't boot.
[20:30] <Guest87461> ikonia: also, i need b43-fwcutter for my card. is it possible to obtain the packages needed to install it, without an internet connection.
[20:30] <michal_> I have Ubuntu 11.10.Netgear WNDA3100v2 not connecting to my network.When I disable password it works but when I switch bac security it's not working.My Security Mode:	WPA-PSK WPA-PSK, Encryption:TKIP+AES, WPA-PSK Version:WPA+WPA2 an my own password letters and digits no spaces.Could anybody help me,please?
[20:30] <TheSimkin> ikonia: i had to do all kinds of stuff to get it working, it was a real pain.
[20:30] <ikonia> TheSimkin: you can boot on a raid1 failure, it's a mirror, your drive can fail and you should have no problems
[20:31] <TheSimkin> i had no problems until rebooting.
[20:31] <ikonia> TheSimkin: then you didn't mark the drive as failed properly.
[20:31] <ikonia> TheSimkin: (from experience that is a common reason to have that problem)
[20:31] <TheSimkin> i had to boot froma live instance and then go from there
[20:31] <TheSimkin> the drive died and was removed.
[20:31] <ikonia> TheSimkin: did you mark it as failed in mdadm ?
[20:31] <TheSimkin> what more would i have to do??
[20:31] <jeroen__> anyone?
[20:32] <ikonia> jeroen__: saying anyone is pointless.
[20:32] <TheSimkin> cat /proc/mdstat already showed it as failed.
[20:32] <cyclicflux> Yooooo good day all!!
[20:32] <ikonia> TheSimkin: you still have to mark it as failed
[20:32] <jeroen__> thanks for the help then
[20:32] <ikonia> TheSimkin: /proc/mdstat shows it as failed, you use mdadm to mark it as failed.
[20:32] <ikonia> TheSimkin: that way it changes the status of the array for the next boot
[20:32] <TheSimkin> taht's silly
[20:33] <ikonia> TheSimkin: well, I suspect that's why you're having problems
[20:33] <ljt> i'm experiencing an issue where seahorse just wont save any passwords, checking the keyring file shows no change when passwords are added. anyone else experienced that?
[20:33] <TheSimkin> what if the drive was rmoved while the computer is off!?!
[20:33] <cyclicflux> I had a question, is there compatibility issues with reference to the graphic ipython libraries, and unity/gnome graphic libraries, as for the first time ever in two years I have had problems with ipython on a linux distro(ubuntu11.10) I have been using
[20:33] <TheSimkin> i found the entire experience distasteful.
[20:33] <ikonia> TheSimkin: then you may/may not have problems, it depends
[20:33] <ikonia> TheSimkin: that's because you are not managing the software raid arrays correctly.
[20:33] <TheSimkin> never had a problem with any other distro
[20:33] <ikonia> TheSimkin: if you manage it cleanly, you'll have a very smooth ride
[20:34] <TheSimkin> including debian.
[20:34] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, yesssir
[20:34] <TheSimkin> although maybe they messed up debian now too, haven't used that in a while.
[20:34] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I have not used debian, just arch, gentoo, fedora, and slax
[20:34] <TheSimkin> gentoo is the best by far cyclicflux
[20:34] <TheSimkin> never have these kinds of problems
[20:34] <ikonia> TheSimkin: worth keeping in the back of your mind for future use
[20:34] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I figured it was enough to use the generation
[20:34] <TheSimkin> but it doesn't work so well if you need to have other admins :(
[20:35] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I will be installing it shooooortly
[20:35] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I was able however to get keepnote to work in gnome3(using xconsole)
[20:35] <TheSimkin> i choose ubuntu in this particular case because the guys at the NOC where most familiar with it.
[20:35] <ikonia> cyclicflux: please keep in mind this is ubuntu support, not a linux chat channel
[20:36] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I just wanted to try it out, since it is the most widely used no-problem distro,  and of all distros it has called the most problems it seems
[20:36] <ikonia> cyclicflux: please keep in mind this is ubuntu support, not a linux chat channel
[20:36] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, However used bt5 R2, and that had none, and it was on debian.
[20:36] <ikonia> cyclicflux: stop
[20:37] <ikonia> cyclicflux: this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[20:37] <cyclicflux> ikonia, well can you help me with my problem?
[20:37] <ikonia> cyclicflux: no
[20:37] <TheSimkin> lol
[20:37] <cyclicflux> ikonia, lol!!!!!
[20:37] <ikonia> cyclicflux: I don't respond to people who just ignore what I'm saying
[20:38] <cyclicflux> ikonia, well then what about the rest of the web since you know what everyone else doesnt
[20:38] <ikonia> cyclicflux: I have no idea what you are on abuot "the rest of the web" but I tend to not help people (I see it as a reward) who just ignore what's being said to them,
[20:39] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: what is your problem, i'l take a whack at it
[20:41] <sporkboy> ok. sansa e250 mp3 player. used to work fine. new laptop, old hdd. e250 only mounts with the sd card removed.
[20:42] <cyclicflux> The Simkin, Basically I believe it has to do with the gtk+ variant of libraries, and it clashing with the gnome/unity libraries, when my 3D graphics card is in KMS mode
[20:42] <michal_> I have Ubuntu 11.10.Netgear WNDA3100v2 not connecting to my network.When I disable password it works but when I switch back security it's not working.My Security Mode: WPA-PSK WPA-PSK, Encryption:TKIP+AES, WPA-PSK Version:WPA+WPA2 an my own password letters and digits no spaces.Could anybody help me,please?
[20:43] <rhizmoe> i've switched from gnome3 to xfce, but how can i get rid of the lame-style scroll thumbs?
[20:44] <michal_> I'm realy close to quit ubuntu at this stage.
[20:44] <rhizmoe> thanks for sharing
[20:44] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: hmm, i have no idea what kms mode is sorry.
[20:44] <michal_> Once I have installed Fedora 16 and network worked without any problems
[20:45] <victorg> hey folks :) how can I prevent 11.10/Unity from auto-mounting USB devices?  This doc does not seem to apply to 11.10 - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[20:45] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I will warn you however, I have gone through the following: re-installed ipython using purge, and then from there, apt-get make-depend with ipython, and that still didn't work, then I installed the various different libraries manually with all optional dependencies, then from there I went through the whole git repo of ipython to install(which has never failed), and then went through(Kernel Mode Settings, used to manage the 3d graphics card
[20:45] <cyclicflux>  as opposed to x-windows(which I believe is why xconsole worked for keepnote-a python-based note taking application).) Then I installed all graphic libraries that unity/gnome3 uses from the git repositories
[20:45] <bittin> was trying to carry home a Sun Blade 2000 on the subway and failed so hard so i dropped it off in the bushes atleast got a hot usb mouse
[20:46] <angs> what is the command to compile a c++ file?
[20:46] <victorg> angs: g++ -o outname source.cpp
[20:46] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: have you installed programs without using the package manager!??
[20:46] <ew> g++ foo.cpp -o foo
[20:46] <angs> thank you
[20:47] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, yes(from git manually compiling the most bleeding edge source) KMS takes the burden off of x-windows to manage the computers hardware
[20:47] <ew> plus whatever include paths, libraries, and whatever else flags you need
[20:47] <michal_> the best thing is that I have managed to install Lubuntu for my frien on his anciet DELL latitude
[20:47] <michal_> and I can't solwe my issue
[20:47] <mirko1> angs: also -Wall is good pratice!
[20:48] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: yah... that's a bad idea.
[20:48] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: using stuff not from the package manager in deb or rpm based systems always leads to serious problems.
[20:48] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: i think you should just use gentoo :)
[20:48] <Maxquilmes> buenas
[20:49] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, for the graphic environments which is why keepnote(which didn't work in 3-D accelerated mode), ran in xconsole(which is the old-school terminal that is on the computer before installing any other types of graphic software), I haven't had any, and I am confident I could indeed handle any, as once using gentoo/archlinux, it is assumed you'll have to
[20:49] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: in gentoo you can tell it to use bleeding edge stuff and it will organize accordingly.. even from git (version 9999)
[20:49] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: wrost case scenario you make your own ebuilds... not too tough at all.
[20:50] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, this problem however due to the close proximity of the code release, coupled with the vast amount of new code, and them not getting it taken care of.
[20:51] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: it's just not a good idea
[20:51] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, just because the release is new, as well as the libraries, i.e. 3d support uses gnome-panel/unity-panel, whereas 2d/fallback uses metacity/x11
[20:51] <bennyp> i want to make /tmp a ramdisk for a usb flash install. please advise on /etc/fstab line
[20:51] <dlentz> TheSimkin, i think you're exaggerating. people build stuff from sourceand use ppa's all of the time
[20:51] <TheSimkin> dlentz: yes, then they get broken deps and come here like cyclicflux
[20:51] <TheSimkin> ppas is fine, as it's using a repo
[20:52] <dlentz> TheSimkin, in y experience, ppa's can cause dependency problems just like source
[20:52] <guntbert> TheSimkin: I second your warning, but many ppas are totally unreliable too
[20:53] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, I'd agree but I am very familiar with compiling, and C++. But I didn't clone git until I went through all options. Plus, if you know sed+awk you can always parse the /var folder for the package cache and pipe that to a command to re-install everything back
[20:53] <TheSimkin> dlentz: yes, i avoid it all as much as possible.
[20:53]  * P1rate salutes
[20:53] <TheSimkin> dlentz: but why are you saying i exagerate when you now seem to agree?
[20:53] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, then delete the git folder, so its easy to fix if you know what your doing, and at the very least you can read a 10 minute tutorial on the find command and do something similar
[20:53] <mirko1> bennyp: none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0
[20:53] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: as familiar as you are you're trying to make a binary distro work like a source based one.
[20:54] <dlentz> because i think the dependency issues are the exception to the rule
[20:54] <Kingstone> what's the difference between ubuntu server and desktop?
[20:54] <Corey> Kingstone: A GUI.
[20:54] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, well you can already per the ubuntu community, see apt-build
[20:54] <TheSimkin> cyclicflux: you culd always install an entire source tree and run your compiled code in there (chroot)
[20:54] <Kingstone> that only corey?
[20:54] <itaylor57> Kingstone, server is w/o gui desktop has gui
[20:54] <Corey> Kingstone: Yup.
[20:54] <Kingstone> i can run all stuff on both?
[20:55] <bennyp> mirko1: thanks
[20:55] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, true dat, didn't think of that though. But you can make it all source in ubuntu with the use of the stable apt-tool apt-build. I just found out about it a few weeks ago when switching
[20:55] <dlentz> TheSimkin, i guess i'm probably the wrong person to ask on source stuff because i use debia sid and compile git stuff all of the time :P
[20:55] <TheSimkin> dlentz: can you help cyclicflux then?
[20:55] <cyclicflux> dlentz, my man!!!!!
[20:55] <TheSimkin> i'm inexperience and don't know how to help him.. all i see is issues with it.
[20:56] <piotrek_> siemanko
[20:56] <TheSimkin> would loe to know the solution to this particular problem too
[20:56] <guntbert> cyclicflux: that discussion goes way beyond ubuntu support - please take it elsewhere
[20:56] <piotrek_> Hi
[20:57] <dlentz> cyclicflux, problem with ipython? can you elaborate?
[20:57] <cyclicflux> TheSimkin, There is a solution use fallback/2d but on hackspace(where the open-source developers coordinate meetings with other people who develop majorly used software), ppl. are actually having meetings about this particular topic right now(as of march 21), with the ipython people. But in fallback/2d my desktop with tons of insane hardware freezes, and then shuts down.
[20:58] <cyclicflux> dlentz, basically I am not able to get it to start
[20:58] <cyclicflux> dlentz, would you like a link?
[20:58] <dlentz> i'll look at it, but i'm not a big python person
[20:59] <cyclicflux> dlentz, also I am running ubuntu11.10, as well as gnome3, unity, and gnome-classic in the lightdm login
[20:59] <hmmmm_> hey guys
[20:59] <hmmmm_> i need a simple image crop program,
[21:00] <cyclicflux> dlentz, actually, thanks but I have someone in ipython that just proposed something. Im off, enjoy the day!!!
[21:00] <hmmmm_> gimp is out the question. they couldnt have made it more retarded to use.
[21:00] <cyclicflux> thanks all!!!!
[21:00] <dlentz> cyclicflux, good luck
[21:01] <dlentz> i know gimp has a lot of complexity, but it's still fairly easy to crop an image
[21:01] <mirko1> hmmmm_:  what exactly do you find retarded in gimp or its cropping function? perhaps display from ImageMagick?
[21:01] <mull3t234> shotwell
[21:02] <GhostConn> ok how would i install burg on my hdd..... my hdd with the mrb is    /dev/sda   im trying to follow a online tutorial and this is what i have
[21:02] <GhostConn>     sudo burg-install "(hd0)"
[21:02] <TheSimkin> gimp is perfect for cropping? what is wrong with it hmmmm_???
[21:02] <hmmmm_> well i couldnt figure it out at first.  believe me i looked for it. googled it too. absolute ****, i will check ImageMagick, cheers
[21:02] <TheSimkin> hmmmm_: krita is easy to use
[21:02] <kiz> does anyone know where crontab gets the email for the user when it tries to send out error messages? Or is it always just USER@HOST?
[21:03] <ikonia> kiz: it's localmail, not email, so it's user@host
[21:03] <GhostConn> should i use     sudo burg-install "(dev/sda)"
[21:04] <ikonia> kiz: there is a parameter you can setup to send it to QFDN addresses
[21:04] <ikonia> GhostConn: why are you using burg and not grub ?
[21:04] <mirko1> notice that ImageMagick's display might feel a liitle strange, more like a classic Unix program. cropping in gimp is really simple, click the crop utility button, select the area and click into it, done.
[21:05] <TheSimkin> mirko1: i agree, i dunno how much easier it can get.
[21:05] <vazili> Jops->>
[21:05] <meerkats> can anyone help me to restore files? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11785238#post11785238
[21:06] <GhostConn> i like the looks of burg rather then grub with simple text...
[21:06] <kiz> ikonia: thanks. And yeah I know about the parameter, just curious about normal behavious. I guess it's up to the mail agent to decide how to route it after that?
[21:06] <ikonia> kiz: only if you set to an FQDN, otherwise it's just user@host
[21:07] <kiz> roger
[21:08] <GhostConn> ikonia   if my mbr is located on /dev/sda    how would i fix this command to install burg      sudo burg-install "(hd0)"
[21:08] <robb4n> Hi, Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and have tried to fix Compiz with Emerald. But When I start emerald everythings works.. except gnome 3 top bar dissapear and I cant move my windows.. but stil can open applications. Anyone knows why this happends?
[21:08] <robb4n> I dont even get any error
[21:08] <ikonia> GhostConn: what do you need to "fix" ?
[21:08] <guntbert> !emerald | robb4n
[21:09] <robb4n> guntbert: Okey
[21:09] <GhostConn> ikonia     i was told that hd0 is for a ide drive and my master boot record is on my 250gb drive which is /dev/sda
[21:10] <ikonia> GhostConn: you where told wrong, grub uses it's own naming conventions for devices.
[21:10] <GhostConn> WOW iv been sitting hear for EVER
[21:10] <mirko1> no hd0 is just grub's notation for the first drive which sda is Linux' notation for the same. hd0 == sda, hd1 == sdb and so on
[21:10] <GhostConn> lol thanks so how would i tell if my mbr is located on hd0
[21:10] <GhostConn> i have threee hdds instaleld
[21:11] <ikonia> GhostConn: upi kist dod. hd0 = hd0
[21:11] <ikonia> oops
[21:11] <ikonia> GhostConn: you just did hd0 = hd0 - first disk
[21:11] <GhostConn> ok thanks everyone i feel like a complete retard now lol
[21:12] <ikonia> GhostConn: can you please stop saying "retard" I've asked you a few times now
[21:12] <login25> french people here ?
[21:12] <Farfaday> ouai
[21:12] <ikonia> login25: lots in #ubuntu-fr
[21:12] <login25> salut farfaday
[21:12] <droid-0854> GhostConn,  I feel like that often.
[21:12] <GhostConn> you're kidding me lol you just mentioned that check the log ikonia
[21:13] <guntbert> login25: this channel is english language only
[21:13] <GhostConn> wow
[21:13] <login25> mmmm
[21:13] <ikonia> GhostConn: no - I'm not kidding
[21:13] <login25> ok
[21:13] <Chris_Money> Whats goof bitches
[21:13] <login25> do you know any french channel ?
[21:13] <ikonia> Chris_Money: your language - it is unacceptable
[21:13] <GhostConn> well then don't lie and say you asked me already because you havn't
[21:13] <ikonia> login25: #ubuntu-fr as I've told you
[21:14] <ikonia> GhostConn: I asked you yesterday when you where ranting
[21:14] <Chris_Money> Ikoni: I'll tone it down
[21:14] <ikonia> Chris_Money: thanks, appreciated
[21:14] <login25> mmm
[21:14] <login25> ok
[21:14] <Xabster> linux's alternative to daemon tools to mount iso images?
[21:14] <login25> so can i ask you anyway if you know airpwn ?
[21:14] <guntbert> GhostConn: how about you tone down a little too
[21:14] <ikonia> Xabster: don't need a tool
[21:14] <guntbert> !ask | login25
[21:14] <Xabster> oh?
[21:15] <ikonia> Xabster: you can mount an idso "mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/point"
[21:15] <GhostConn> anyways this is what im getting
[21:15] <GhostConn> ghostconn@GhostConn00:~$ sudo burg-install "(hd0)"
[21:15] <GhostConn> sudo: burg-install: command not found
[21:15] <ikonia> GhostConn: a command needs to be there before you can use it
[21:15] <Xabster> is there no gui for it, ikonia ?
[21:15] <llamahawk> so on the fresh install of 11.10. my mouse pad scrolling buttons wont do a continuous scroll. i need to spam the button to get it to scroll
[21:15] <Xabster> i'm newbie
[21:15] <login25> Do somebody know howto install airpwn ?
[21:15] <llamahawk> this is just picky issue though
[21:15] <Chris_Money> fuck
[21:15] <ikonia> Xabster: actually, I don't know, try right clicking on the iso image, see if it offers to mount it
[21:16] <Xabster> it doesn't, ikonia, it defaults to brasero burner
[21:16] <GhostConn> i dont understand a command is that not the command
[21:16] <ikonia> GhostConn: is that command installed on your system ?
[21:16] <almoxarife> my machine has an odd quirk, the 'c' character needs to be depressed twice to function on startup, boot or return from suspend, there may be other keys that are also effected but I have not noticed, its not intermittent loss of the key as I won't notice it again until a reboot or return from suspend, any thoughts? no log entries are created either
[21:16] <mirko1> Xabster:  AcetoneISO can do that
[21:16] <ikonia> Xabster: that's a shame, just mount it manually
[21:17] <GhostConn> ikonia please look  im following this http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.ca/2010/06/burgbeautify-your-bootloader.html
[21:17] <cryptotheslow> login25, Walkthrough here: http://timashley.me/node/100
[21:17] <GhostConn> i did the first two steps
[21:17] <guntbert> GhostConn: as far as I can see burg is not in the repos - so probably not supported here
[21:17] <ikonia> GhostConn: I'm not following your link, I'm asking is that command installed on your machine
[21:17] <ikonia> GhostConn: I strongly advise you not to use external guides
[21:17] <ikonia> !info burg
[21:17] <ikonia> GhostConn: have you installed burg ?
[21:18] <ikonia> guntbert: PPA......
[21:18] <GhostConn> this is all i have done so far these two commands
[21:18] <GhostConn>     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bean123ch/burg
[21:18] <GhostConn>     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install burg burg-themes
[21:18] <ikonia> GhostConn: not what I asked
[21:18] <meerkats> cant I, via command line, restore files from the .trash directory in a usb HDD to their original position, also in the usb HDD?
[21:18] <ikonia> GhostConn: have you installed burg
[21:18] <ikonia> meerkats: "no"
[21:19] <meerkats> I dont understand why, if the deleted files are still in the USB HDD, cannot be restored
[21:19] <GhostConn> no i guess not so   sudo apt-get install burg?
[21:19] <GhostConn> im so sorry honestly
[21:19] <ikonia> meerkats: because the command line has no awareness of your desktop, so therefore doesn't know about their previous locations
[21:19]  * almoxarife does not understand the point of 'beautiful boot loading', it's a minor step in the whole process
[21:19] <ikonia> almoxarife: it's a pointless thing to install, especially if you are not confident with what you are doing
[21:20] <ikonia> GhostConn: with respect, it's clear you are not sure of what you are even doing, I'd suggest not playing with important components like the bootloader
[21:20] <almoxarife> ikonia: that was harsh, but true :)
[21:22] <TheSimkin> meerkats: what format is the hard disk?
[21:22] <meerkats> I neither understand why you can sedn files inside a .trash-1000/files to the actual trash...
[21:22] <TheSimkin> you might be able to use other undeletion tools
[21:22] <drewh> Hello everyone. I'm running 11.10 on an Asus P50IJ I'm having a few issues (headphones don't mute speakers, screen brightness doesn't work) but right now I'm looking for help on dual monitors, my second screen works, but there are some graphic errors and my mouse pointer doesn't render on the second screen... any help = thanks
[21:22] <meerkats> ext4 TheSimkin
[21:22] <ikonia> meerkats: the short answer is "you need to manually move them with the command line to where you want"
[21:22] <TheSimkin> meerkats: too bad for you!
[21:22] <ikonia> meerkats: you've been asking this for hours - the sooner you accept it and get on with it, the quicker you'll get it done
[21:23]  * almoxarife would love to see a grub setup that zips thru the process the fastest possible
[21:23] <GhostConn> understandable... however to install BURG to my mbr i need to enter this command   sudo burg-install "(hd0)"   i tried that after adding the repositories and it wont work... all im asking is ifthe command is wrong because im unsure of where my mbr is located. from my understanding its located on /dev/sda   as far as a disk numer i don't know ?  example "hd0"
[21:23] <ikonia> GhostConn: is burg-install on your machine ?
[21:23] <almoxarife> hd0?
[21:23] <almoxarife> burg is a win front end?
[21:24] <ikonia> almoxarife: no, it's a pactched version of grub bascially
[21:24] <meerkats> can anyone explain why you can send files inside a .trash-1000/files to the actual trash?
[21:24] <Xabster> ikonia, it says that "mount point" does not exist...?
[21:24] <GhostConn> yes
[21:24] <ikonia> GhostConn: so what is the error you are getting
[21:24] <ikonia> meerkats: what are you talking about ?
[21:24] <ikonia> Xabster: mount it on a mount point that exists
[21:24] <gaussblurinc> hello! is it possible to create widget under lxde?
[21:25] <almoxarife> meerkats: can or can't?
[21:25] <wylde> GhostConn: I honestly think you should take ikonia's advice about not playing with your bootloader. Not to mentio BURG is *NOT* an official ubuntu package, so essentially not supported here.
[21:25] <mirko1> GhostConn:  "adding the repositories" is not installing the software. if you haven't used synaptic, Software Center, apt-get, aptitude, ... to install burg you will get nowhere. anyway, burg can damage your booting, you shouldn't use it without some more experiences. afterall it's just some cool looking nonsense ;-)
[21:25] <meerkats> ikonia, there is, inside the USB HDD a .trash1000 folder with all the files. I thought it would behave like the normal trash, hence with purge and restore options, but to my surprise I can actually send files from .trash1000 to "trash"
[21:25] <ikonia> meerkats: ok, so what's the problem ?
[21:26] <guntbert> meerkats: all trash bins are just folders
[21:26] <almoxarife> .tashxxxxx <-- its called that for a reason
[21:26] <red_one> what's the best channel to discuss precise beta1?
[21:26] <almoxarife> trash
[21:27] <ikonia> red_one: #ubuntu+1
[21:28] <aguitel> how upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10 with command line ?
[21:28] <Xabster> ikonia, i would love to...
[21:28] <Xabster> but what the hell is that
[21:28] <ikonia> aguitel: you can't
[21:28] <ikonia> Xabster: just a directory to mount the iso image on
[21:28] <ikonia> Xabster: I used /mnt/iso as an example
[21:30] <GhostConn> ok upon installing burg i came to this   The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or  │
[21:30] <GhostConn>  │ the `kopt' parameter in GRUB Legacy's menu.lst.  Please verify that it    │
[21:30] <GhostConn>  │ is correct, and modify it if necessary.
[21:30] <ikonia> GhostConn: ok and ?
[21:30] <GhostConn> what should i do
[21:31] <ikonia> GhostConn: you should stop trying to use burg and use grub so you don't wreck your system and ask this channel how to fix it
[21:31] <wylde> GhostConn: considering it's not an official Ubuntu PPA you're installing from it's not supported here anyway.
[21:31] <GhostConn> i have figured it out and choose what dev im sorry for wasting everyone's time
[21:32] <ikonia> no problem
[21:32] <almoxarife> do I need to include the kernel headers on a straight forward install?
[21:33] <ikonia> almoxarife: depends what you are doing
[21:33] <ikonia> almoxarife: the default install will sort it out, it shouldn't ask you
[21:34] <almoxarife> ikonia: so if they are needed they are called for? I thought they were there because of dkms ans virtualbox before
[21:34] <possible1994> I want to make a very simple FTP or HTTP server, what do I install?
[21:35] <possible1994> I just want my Public dir accessible via IP
[21:35] <itaylor57> possible1994, lamp would be a good choice
[21:35] <itaylor57> possible1994, ssh is way better than using ftp
[21:36] <shenra> guys on ubuntu 11.10, using ext4 filesystem, i have problems that when i copy large files from usb onto the harddrive or vise versa, it causes applications to hang and crash.
[21:36] <possible1994> itaylor57: It needs to be cross plat-form seamless for my clients
[21:36] <yobamba> ftp = for the public
[21:36] <possible1994> lol
[21:37] <possible1994> I just want a URL that people can type in and access the dir and it's contents
[21:37] <GhostConn> after all that time I still have grub.......... :(     i know laugh it up
[21:37] <jonnymotor> ciao
[21:37] <shenra> libreoffice and firefox was locking up during the file transfer.  is there anything i can do to make ubuntu more responsive while transferring files?
[21:37] <jonnymotor> !list
[21:37] <tm> my java doesnt work browser chrome w vista. if i install luntubu, does it solve the problem? i cant play chess atm
[21:38] <mirko1> possible1994:  don't setup a public server without knowing what you're doing! Maybe dropbox can do what you want.
[21:38] <itaylor57> tm, what url to play chess are you accessing?
[21:38] <tm> playok.com
[21:38] <tm> nice website :p
[21:39] <ikonia> tm: please don't spam here
[21:40] <itaylor57> ikonia, i was asking him for the web site so i couldhelp him resolve his browser problem
[21:40] <ikonia> itaylor57: thanks, my apologies
[21:40] <itaylor57> tm, i can play it find using chromium and firefox
[21:41] <_Marcus> tm: I read your problem, you are running Vista?
[21:41] <itaylor57> tm, sorry i misread your problem
[21:41] <CacheMoney> I reinstalled Ubuntu and got this message when I restarted "error: no suck partition.  grub rescue> _ "  What should I do?
[21:42] <ikonia> CacheMoney: your grub is pointing at a partition that doesn't exist
[21:42] <CacheMoney> ikonia:  How should I proceed?  Not sure what to do on this black screen..
[21:43] <ikonia> CacheMoney: what's happened to your install to cause this ?
[21:43] <Taev> how can i set it up so that on boot the computer executes a series of simple commands like /home/djs/eggdrop/eggdrop -n eggdrop.conf
[21:44] <Drajwer> how can I force my ubuntu VM to recognize hot added memory?
[21:44] <ikonia> !session | Taev
[21:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: you don't
[21:44] <CacheMoney> i couldn't get the bootloader to come up, so we tried reinstalling Ubuntu and choosing to install the bootloader to /dev/sda (instead of a specific partition)
[21:44] <Drajwer> ikonia: why not ?
[21:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: you need to restart it
[21:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: because it's not a dynamic technology
[21:44] <yobamba> hot added memory?
[21:44] <Taev> and where might I find it on KDE on 8.04
[21:45] <ikonia> CacheMoney: grub should go on a device not a partition, so /dev/sda (or /dev/sdb (what ever your device is is )) is the correct approach
[21:45] <Drajwer> ikonia: it works well with enabling hot added CPU, but scripts for CentOS/SLES just does not work as there is no /sys/devices/system/memory
[21:45] <ikonia> Taev: no idea in kde where that is
[21:45] <almoxarife> tavasti: look at system > startup > script (you get to add it there)
[21:45] <ikonia> Drajwer: can't do it with memory
[21:45] <CacheMoney> ikonia:  Well, that's what I did and when I restarted I was presented with a black screen stating, "error: no such partition."
[21:46] <ikonia> CacheMoney: how many disks to you have ?
[21:46] <Drajwer> is there any workaround for this?
[21:46] <ikonia> Drajwer: restart your virtual machine
[21:46] <almoxarife> Taev:  look at system > startup > script (you get to add it there)
[21:46] <Drajwer> without restaring
[21:46] <ikonia> Drajwer: no
[21:47] <CacheMoney> 1TB HD (Windows partition and Ubuntu partition) and 8GB SSD => It's a new Samsung Series 7 Laptop
[21:47] <ikonia> CacheMoney: so two hard disks in your machine ?
[21:47] <CacheMoney> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=samsung+series+7&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10259595134271245415&sa=X&ei=7J1rT8jlEeHYiQKZn5iUBQ&ved=0CH8Q8wIwBQ
[21:47] <ikonia> CacheMoney: please just answer the question
[21:47] <CacheMoney> ikonia:  that's what Disk Utility told me..
[21:48] <ikonia> CacheMoney: no - I'm asking you
[21:48] <ikonia> CacheMoney: how many hard disk are in the machine - not what you think, what disk utility tells, how many factual physical hard disks are in the machine
[21:48] <yobamba> ikonia: he's not a computer
[21:48] <ikonia> yobamba: I didn't say he was
[21:49] <ikonia> it's a perfectly reasonable question, how many hard disks are in the machine
[21:49] <ikonia> infact, I've lost interest now,
[21:49] <yobamba> ikonia: but he's not a computer
[21:49] <ikonia> good luck
[21:49] <CacheMoney> I believe it has two disks, do you want me to open it up and check?
[21:49] <Drajwer> OK. found the answer by myself. Ubuntu kernel config does not allow memory hotplugging by default
[21:49] <ikonia> Drajwer: I told you this
[21:49] <Drajwer> you said 'no'
[21:49] <ikonia> Drajwer: you didn't "find the answer" I've just told you
[21:49] <ikonia> Drajwer: correct, the answer to your question is no
[21:49] <ikonia> Drajwer: I told you it is not a hot plugable option
[21:50] <CacheMoney> ikonia:  it might have just been the RAM i was looking at..
[21:50] <yobamba> CacheMoney: why did you do that?
[21:50] <ikonia> CacheMoney: I'm sure someone else will help you,
[21:50] <CacheMoney> yobamba: why did I do what?
[21:50] <Drajwer> 'no' is not an descriptive answer, and obviously is not true
[21:50] <ikonia> Drajwer: I told you - "it's not a hot plugable technology"
[21:50] <yobamba> CacheMoney: looking at the ram
[21:51] <ikonia> 21:44 < Drajwer> ikonia: why not ?
[21:51] <ikonia> 21:44 < ikonia> Drajwer: because it's not a dynamic technology
[21:51] <almoxarife> my dog smells a troll
[21:51] <CacheMoney> yobamba: i never opened my computer.  I was looking through Disk Utility to find which partition Ubuntu was originally installed on
[21:51] <Rocky> hello all i just install the latest ubuntu on my dell dimension 3000 and i got a message saying that my intel driver may not have full support, and the screen is very glichy and what not. is there a way i can start it up in a very basic vga mode ?
[21:51] <Drajwer> why its not a dynamic technology ?
[21:52] <yobamba> almoxarife: my troll smells a dog
[21:52] <ikonia> Drajwer: because it's not enabled to be so
[21:52] <Cluber> What the top taskbar called, with "Applications, Places, System". It's somehow dissapeared, how do I get it back up again?
[21:52] <ikonia> Drajwer: you have your answer, now it's up to you to decide how to manage it
[21:53] <yobamba> ikonia: are you sure that the technology doesn't exist somewhere?
[21:53] <CacheMoney> I'm just wondering if I'm going to fuck something up by turning off my computer with this black screen "error: no such partition."
[21:53] <ikonia> yobamba: what ?
[21:53] <almoxarife> Cluber: disappeared? explain
[21:53] <ikonia> CacheMoney: please don't down that language
[21:53] <raynerd> Hi guys, I`ve installed linux ubuntu on a windows system before but I must install windows onto a current linux only system. for one reason or another, I must keep windows and have it dual boot. I`m not very well up on computers but is there any method I can use so that I ensure I get the boot option at the startup ?
[21:53] <Drajwer> yeah found it and the corresponding kernel config values I might do separate VM template with mem hot-add kernel
[21:53] <CacheMoney> ikonia:  i apologize
[21:53] <ikonia> CacheMoney: "tone down" sorry
[21:53] <ikonia> CacheMoney: no problem
[21:54] <ikonia> Drajwer: I believe you'll find it won't work, but you're welcome to try it
[21:54] <yobamba> ikonia: "hot added memory"
[21:54] <ikonia> yobamba: what about it ?
[21:54] <yobamba> ikonia: are you sure that it doesn't exist?
[21:54] <CacheMoney> ikonia: how should I exit the black screen saying, "grub rescue> _ "
[21:54] <ikonia> yobamba: I never said it doesn't exist
[21:54] <red_one> what's the best way to display/control my laptop cpu fan?
[21:54] <ikonia> CacheMoney: I've said I'm not interested in progressing at this time, I'm doing other things
[21:54] <Drajwer> ikonia: it works, believe me
[21:54] <yobamba> ikonia: ah, but you're saying what?
[21:55] <ikonia> Drajwer: then why are you asking how to do it if you know it works ?
[21:55] <CacheMoney> ikonia:  okay
[21:55] <raynerd> anyone :(
[21:55] <ikonia> yobamba: in Drajwer's config that he stated when he joined the channel that it is not a dyanmic option, he will need to reboot
[21:55] <Drajwer> because it does not work on Ubuntu, and works on (for example) CentOS
[21:55] <ikonia> raynerd: saying anyone is pointless
[21:55] <raynerd> in what way is it pointless?
[21:55] <Rocky> Can anyone help me ?
[21:55] <mirko1> Drajwer: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#guestadd-balloon
[21:55] <ikonia> Drajwer: try it, I hope it does work for you
[21:55] <yobamba> ikonia: ah, alright
[21:55] <CacheMoney> anyone know how to do a grub rescue?
[21:56] <Taev> will this trigger those programs to start upon login, this is my $HOME/.profile  file
[21:56] <Taev> http://pastebin.com/AVQ7VjWf
[21:56] <ikonia> raynerd: 1.) if someone didn't see the question "anyone" doesn't tell them the question 2.) if someone saw the question and can answer it but chose not to "anyone" wont' make them respond 3.) if someone saw the question and doesn't know the answer "anyone" will not make them know the answer
[21:56] <Drajwer> ikonia: i dont like virtualbox, and the questio nwas about forcing OS to recognize the newly added mem
[21:56] <Drajwer> oh well it was for mirko1
[21:56] <raynerd> but with respect, surely it may provoke a reply... it might not... but gives me something to write while I sit here watching my screen
[21:57] <ikonia> raynerd: or it just posts pointless noise to the channel, ask the question, wait for an answer, no answer, wait 15 minutes and ask again
[21:57] <yobamba> maybe someone's name is anyone
[21:57] <Rocky> My intel onboard gfx card is not supported by the new version of ubuntu is there a way i can start ubuntu up in a basic VGA mode ?
[21:57] <raynerd> likewise in the constant refreshing of the screen, it might show someone that I posted a message that they missed...no?
[21:57] <ikonia> raynerd: no
[21:58] <meerkats> how do I see hidden files from the terminal?
[21:58] <ikonia> meerkats: ls -la
[21:58] <raynerd> I don`t understand "no".  Well it couldn`t, couldn`t it. So there is no, "no", about it.
[21:58] <Taev> will this http://pastebin.com/AVQ7VjWf   (copy of my $HOME/.profile ) work in making those 3 programs execute upon login
[21:59] <cryptotheslow> raynerd, basically you need to back up grub, make space for the windows install (preferably at the start of drive), install windows, use an Ubuntu LiveCD to do a grub recovery, pray. This should help. Be careful if you already have 4 primary partitions. Ask again in that instance. This may help you http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm
[21:59] <ikonia> raynerd: sorry, I'll try again. "please don't randomly say "anyone", ask the question, wait for a response, if no-one responds, try again in 15 minutes. Thanks
[21:59] <raynerd> lol...crtptotheslow... :D  cheers pal. No clue what it means but will read a few times and do some googling. Cheers pal!
[21:59] <mirko1> Taev: probably not. at least on my 10.04 there's no login shell involved in the GUI startup. just write a simple shell script and call it using the Startup facility
[21:59] <yobamba> how to display file size in bits?
[22:00] <Taev> this 8.04
[22:00] <ikonia> yobamba: I think the smallest you can do is bytes
[22:00] <cryptotheslow> raynerd, it's not too hard to do as long as you haven't run out or primary partitions.
[22:00] <ikonia> yobamba: (unless you use a special tool) but ls can only do bytes I think, man ls to check
[22:01] <mirko1> and since bytes are 8 bits on all of our machines, just multipy by 8
[22:01] <yobamba> ikonia: darnit, so then i do have to talk to the coreutils/busybox guys about adding it. bits is the only sensible way, no more confusion.
[22:01] <raynerd> I`m not really a big linux user but I am blown away with linuxcnc / emc2 and I have it up and running. In some respects however, it may just be easier to blank the drive, install windows and then linux with linuxcnc on top.
[22:01] <ikonia> yobamba: check man ls or follow mirko1's suggestion
[22:02] <almoxarife> http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ <--- that link is the simplest (I like simple) gui (love gui) method to restore windows bootloader or grub or both, and it works!!!!!!!!!!
[22:02] <ikonia> almoxarife: who are you talking to ?
[22:02] <cryptotheslow> raynerd, installing windows first is the easier option. Depends how much time you have put into getting your exiting linux just right
[22:02] <yobamba> ikonia: aye. but there are machines where a byte (we should stop using that term) is not 8 bits.
[22:02] <almoxarife> ikonia: raynerd I think
[22:02] <mirko1> yobamba: right, in the museum ;-)
[22:03] <raynerd> yes, quite a lot and it has been tempremental (spelling?) !!
[22:03] <yobamba> mirko1: or in the future.
[22:03] <yobamba> mirko1: which is now..
[22:03] <raynerd> alexarife... may be worth downloading and giving that a go. cheers.
[22:04] <almoxarife> raynerd: cheers, back at you
[22:04] <mirko1> where a byte might also be a green painted quantum with a left-right 1/2 spin under the top-flip. so, about what are we talking ;-) seriously, it's *REALLY* unlikely that the size of bytes with change anytime soon
[22:04]  * raynerd slaps ikonia around a bit with a large trout
[22:05] <almoxarife> raynerd: not a good idea
[22:05] <cryptotheslow> raynerd, brave
[22:05] <alkisg> When installing phpmyadmin, dbconfig-common shows a debconf question for a root password when ran from the console. If ran from software-center, that question is hidden, resulting in an error+endless retry loop. Which priorities software-center hides by default? The "low" ones?
[22:05] <raynerd> lol, what the hell is that all about... ! slaps with a large trout??!?
[22:05] <meegooo> is it possilbe to see threads of firefox by $ ps ?
[22:05] <cryptotheslow> meegoo,  ps aux | grep firefox
[22:06] <cryptotheslow> meegooo, ^
[22:06] <yobamba> mirko1: bits is the only sensible way to count things, they are either on or off.
[22:06] <almoxarife> is there a gui for bind stats? that works? bindgraph does not
[22:06] <meegooo> cryptotheslow: each tab in firefox is a thread right ? but ps shows just the parent process
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> hi there
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> got a 11.10 post-installation problem: installed, ran updates, then went to the language menue for downloading the language packs
[22:07] <ibodi> my u10.04 can see all neighbours wireless, but not my own, however i can connect to wired. my windows can use both.
[22:07] <yobamba> mirko1: it's the lowest common denominator. to count in bytes of 8, and then 1024 or 1000 (preferably 1000), and that whole mess, is just stupid.
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> now after every restart that window "Your language packs seem to be incomplete..." appears
[22:08] <ibodi> please help howto?
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> when I click on "do that action now", i get to the language window, but he doensn't find any uninstalled language packs
[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> flawed installation maybe?
[22:08] <cryptotheslow> meegooo, not sure about that. This just gives me one firefox process and one firefox flashplugin container   ps axms | grep firefox | more
[22:09] <ibodi> and i have wireless in other house working properly.
[22:09] <meerkats> is this a good place to ask about the restore command included in the "dump" app?
[22:09] <raynerd> can anyone on here explain what realtime is...and why apparently windows can`t run in realtime and linux can?
[22:09] <cryptotheslow> meerkats, just ask and find out
[22:09] <ikonia> meerkats: you can try - but if you are trying to restore from the USB trash to the origional locations as before, please stop wasting your time and just do it manually
[22:10] <Lunar_Lander> are there any suggestions?
[22:10] <mirko1> yobamba: in theory correct, in practice, if you find a file where the 8 bits = 1 byte rule doesn't apply, I'll spend you a whole box of beer. anyway, too much OT. let's stop.
[22:10] <meegooo> cryptotheslow: somebody told me that's possible just on Mac !!!
[22:10] <cryptotheslow> meegooo, what is?
[22:11] <meegooo>  cryptotheslow: i mean killing firefox threads !
[22:11] <flamen> hola
[22:11] <raynerd> bonjour
[22:11] <meegooo>  cryptotheslow: but first you should find them by ps
[22:12] <meerkats> ikonia, I appreciate your interest, but Id like to look for other points of view, wait 2 or 3 days to see if somebody replies to my thread...
[22:13] <ikonia> meerkats: you've wasted hours, why not waste some days, good luck
[22:13] <Lunar_Lander> to repeat: I installed ubuntu, then ran the updates, then installed the language packs, still it complains about "Your language packs seem to be incomplete..."
[22:13] <yobamba> mirko1: why remain? if we decide to change that landscape to whatever number of bits in a byte for whatever better purpose then we all have to learn anew what size a byte is. so nah, bits is the best way, no fuss, no pus.
[22:13] <Lunar_Lander> any idea on that?
[22:15] <cryptotheslow> meegooo, I honestly don't know. I seem to remember something about tabs running in different threads. Doesn't look like it to me - but I'm no expert :)
[22:15] <Lunar_Lander> OK, is there an extra support chat/channel?
[22:16] <GhostConn> lunar_lander you're best bet is google lol
[22:16] <Lunar_Lander> ok
[22:17] <cryptotheslow> Lunar_Lander, paid support from Canonical :D Or post it up on ubuntuforums.org and have some patience :)
[22:18] <almoxarife> Lunar_Lander: what language?
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> german
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> I just found a thread on the forums
[22:18] <Lunar_Lander> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307902
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> I now tried that, select "German" and "Apply System wide"
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> will see if that has helped
[22:23] <Praxi> man I unsuccesfully tried to install gimp 2.7.5, did my best to uninstall it, but now I can't get 2.6 to run hehe
[22:25] <zykotick9> "
[22:26] <haz3lnut> Praxi: did you purge?
[22:26] <haz3lnut> Praxi: also try rm -Rf .gimp*
[22:28] <aboudreault> Hi. I'm looking for a simple example how to do a start/stop script (/etc/init.d) that uses daemon to start something.
[22:30] <devsys> Hi all, have a bit of a networking related issue. I have a ubuntu server which had a single nic card in it. All was working great. Then I added a second card as I need to have the server on a different network as well, although this network is not routable to the internet or anything like that, so I need the server to still use the original connection's gateway. The problem seems to be that
[22:30] <devsys> once I added a static IP and netmask (no gateway) to the new nic, the server cannot get out to the internet anymore. I suspect a default route is incorrectly set or something, but am not sure where to look.
[22:30] <mirko1> aboudreault: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 but notice that classic SysV init scripts are obsolte on Ubuntu (and it seems that other mainstream distros slowly follow)
[22:30] <mirak> hello
[22:31] <vlt> devsys: What does `ip r` tell you?
[22:32] <aboudreault> mirko1, yeah, that script is simple since it doesn't show how to keep the pid id to stop the daemon etc....
[22:32] <mirak> I have a failed disk on a mdam raid 1. the problem is that i can't boot at all, when the disk is physically connected. But if i remove it, i drop to busy box, and here i don't see how i can set the dead disk as failed since it's not connected
[22:32] <doug_f> Is simply remounting a root filesystem read-only enough to ensure a safe dd image of a drive?
[22:33] <vlt> mirak: When starting the array with only one member it will be marked as degraded.
[22:34] <mirko1> aboudreault: put the pid into a file in /var/run/name_of_your_service that's how almost all others do it
[22:34] <devsys> vlt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/895755/     10.10.10.0/24 is the network that routes to the internet
[22:34] <aboudreault> mirko1, that's some kind of example I want
[22:34] <mirak> vlt, ok but i rember having set an option for the system to boot anyway
[22:35] <mirak> remember
[22:35] <vlt> devsys: Remove the default via 192...
[22:35] <mirak> vlt, can i force it to boot anyway ? I have not a spare drive around
[22:35] <vlt> mirak: Is your “/” on the md device?
[22:35] <mirak> vlt, yes
[22:35] <devsys> vlt: ugh I wondered if that was it
[22:36] <vlt> devsys: `ip r d 192...`
[22:37] <vlt> mirak: What does your grub kernel command line say about where the rootfs is?
[22:38] <mirak> my roofts is on a lvm
[22:38] <mirak> vlt, i think i can boot a livecd probably, but well, it should boot disgraded
[22:39] <vlt> mirak: Ok, I have several machines with a setup exactly like that. I wonder why you get to the busybox shell.
[22:40] <mirak> vlt, my setup is gpt partitioning, mdraid1 on a full partition, and LVM in that partition
[22:40] <Hans_Henrik> i need php to have full read-write access to every file in /var/www/ and down.. how can i make sure php get those rights? (right now im getting Warning: fopen(../config/config.ini) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/install/install.php on line 7   )
[22:41] <mirak> help :/
[22:41] <ljt> Hans_Henrik: depends on what user php is being run with..
[22:42] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: apt-get install apache2 php5
[22:42] <ljt> through apache?
[22:42] <devsys> vlt: I get a "RTNETLINK answers: No such process" when running ip r d 192.168.1.1
[22:42] <ljt> then the user will be www-data
[22:42] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: yes i think thats correct
[22:44] <ljt> Hans_Henrik: can you not chgrp all files in /var/www to www-data?
[22:44] <vlt> devsys: Sorry, try `ip r d default via 192.168.1.1`
[22:44] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: (idk how to give the user www-data full read/write access to /var/www )
[22:44] <josten> I need a little
[22:44] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: ill try
[22:44] <josten> help
[22:44] <ljt> Hans_Henrik: do this: chrgrp -R www-data /var/www
[22:45] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: thank you
[22:45] <vlt> mirak: What exactly do you want to do?
[22:45] <mirak> vlt, boot
[22:45] <vlt> mirak: Ok.
[22:45] <mirak> vlt, I found a solution here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/125471
[22:45] <mirak> but not tried it yet
[22:45] <mirak> vlt, i will need to buy another drive but I will see that later
[22:46] <mirak> vlt, of course my driver failed when prices are high :/
[22:46] <vlt> mirak: It MUST be possible to boot. The bug seems to be Ubuntu specific.
[22:46] <ljt> Hans_Henrik: depending on existing permissions you may also need to: chmod -R g+rw /var/www
[22:46] <physically_fit> Sputnik_, nice nickname
[22:46] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: was just about to say i still got permission denied
[22:46] <mirak> it seems it's from 11.10. i have also a 10.4 i should be able to boot
[22:46] <vlt> mirak: Does any /dev/mdx exist in busybox?
[22:46] <meerkats> ikonia, lets say I finally give up and start to manually copy the 4000 files, will information such as year, name of album, name of composer still be in every file?
[22:47] <mirak> vlt, yes
[22:47] <Hans_Henrik> ljt: And now it works, thank you
[22:47] <ljt> Hans_Henrik: glad I could help :)
[22:47] <ikonia> meerkats: the files won't have changed
[22:47] <vlt> mirak: And are LVs started?
[22:47] <meerkats> ikonia, just the tedious job of relocation 4000 files, one by one...
[22:47] <vlt> mirak: `lvm lvs` in busybox
[22:47] <josten> Anyone know how to set user accounts that can't see each others files? Right now standard users can go into each others directories and view files but not edit them.  I don't want other users to even see my files or anything I have.  I am the admin and this is my computer at home.
[22:48] <meerkats> relocating*
[22:48] <ikonia> meerkats: yes, it is
[22:48] <meerkats> f*ck
[22:48] <zykotick9> josten: change the permission on /home/USER directory
[22:48] <Sputnik_> hi
[22:48] <mirak> vlt, i try to boot my lucid first right now
[22:49] <lessshaste> I would like to make a full screen log in to a remote ubuntu box (from windows). What should I run at the linux end?
[22:49] <mirak> damn, it goes to busybox too
[22:49] <ljt> josten: chmod o-rwx /home/USER
[22:49] <lessshaste> what should I run on the ubuntu machine? vnc?
[22:49] <angs> what is the use of echo command?
[22:50] <vlt> angs: Basically to print a line.
[22:50] <angs> thanks
[22:50] <josten> ljt: will that apply to all users added this point foward?
[22:50] <ljt> josten: no
[22:51] <ljt> josten: do the same thing for /etc/skel
[22:51] <josten> ljt: that will?
[22:51] <ljt> /etc/skel (skeleton directory - is copied when new users are added to make their home dir)
[22:51] <devsys> vlt: thanks that got me going
[22:52] <mirak> vlt, /dev/md0 device is there , but if i do mdadm --run /dev/md0 it says CREATE group disk not found. failed to run array  input/output error
[22:52] <meerkats> ikonia, somebody just suggested to rename the .trash folder, what would be its consequences?
[22:52] <ljt> josten: so yes that will if you apply those permissions to /etc/skel
[22:52] <vlt> lessshaste: Yes, vncserver is one option.
[22:52] <mirak> vlt LVs are not started, since the raid is not
[22:52] <ikonia> meerkats: try it
[22:52] <lessshaste> vlt, would you recommend it over teamviewer say?
[22:52] <ikonia> meerkats: it won't make a difference to the command line
[22:53] <vlt> lessshaste: I use it everyday (and I don’t know teamviewer).
[22:53] <GhostConn> anyone know how to add coverflow to gmusicbrowser
[22:53] <vlt> mirak: `cat /proc/mdstat`
[22:53] <ikonia> GhostConn: does it support it ?
[22:53] <lessshaste> vlt, ok thanks
[22:53] <Scott_Z> Is there a channel for newbies?
[22:53] <lessshaste> vlt, what is your view of tigervnc?
[22:53] <josten> ljt: haven't used linux since Mandriva (maybe 4 yrs).  I love unbuntu, just want privacy.  Thanks a lot for your help.  You'll see me back on.
[22:54] <ikonia> Scott_Z: you can ask new questions here
[22:54] <vlt> Scott_Z: Right here.
[22:54] <ljt> josten: just be aware changing perms on your home dir can have some negative effects
[22:54] <mirak> vlt, it says  md0 : incactive sda2[2](S)
[22:54] <josten> ljt: such as?
[22:54] <GhostConn> nope lol the media player isn't even supported
[22:54] <Blue1> hmm I have no icons after the last kernel update..
[22:54] <ikonia> GhostConn: why are you trying to use all these applications that are unsupported, then asking how to make unsupported features supported ?
[22:55] <ikonia> GhostConn: why not just use applications that are mature that work as you want them to
[22:55] <vlt> lessshaste: I use the vnc4server and xvnc4viewer package. Caution: There’s a bug in the 11.10 viewer version (which you would’t use connecting from a Windows machine).
[22:55] <ljt> josten: not all daemons run as root for security reasons, one example is apache, if using the module userdir (host files from your home directory) it wouldn't have permissions to do so
[22:56] <Scott_Z> I have a program that is only available in windows that I use all the time. Is there a way to emulate it?
[22:56] <lessshaste> vlt, ok thanks. I will look for those
[22:56] <mirak> vlt, any idea ?
[22:56] <collinjsimpson> Scott_Z, 'wine'
[22:56] <angs> why is ubuntu the most used linux OS?
[22:56] <GhostConn> because ther's no media player with a coverflow interface.. i knopw allot of people use gmusicbrowser i though someone might know
[22:56] <ljt> josten: so any processes running as non-priveleged users will be blocked from your home dir
[22:56] <Scott_Z> will it handle memory resident programs?ubuntu
[22:56] <ikonia> GhostConn you just said gmusicbrowser doesn't support cover flow ?
[22:56] <ljt> josten: it may not be an issue in your situation tho, just worth being aware of :)
[22:56] <vlt> mirak: The “(S)” part looks as if it’s considered a spare drive … hmmm.
[22:56] <meerkats> ikonia, forgive the insistence: inside .Trash-1000 there are 3 folders: what if I just select files, cut it somewhere else and rename "music", and use rythmbox to sort all 4000 files by author and year? would there be any information missing?
[22:57] <mirak> vlt what ?
[22:57] <collinjsimpson> Scott_Z, yes
[22:57] <ikonia> GhostConn: Grhythembox has a coverflow plugin
[22:57] <GhostConn> ill check it
[22:57] <ikonia> meerkats: I'll say it one more time "the files have NOT changed". Anything that was in the files before you moved them to trash will still be there
[22:57] <ikonia> GhostConn: sorry "rhythmbox"
[22:58] <josten> ljt: I am admin.  I just want my wife not looking at my files.  I'm not planning to run a web server as of yet, but it's just an install away.  I've had ubuntu for maybe 3 weeks, so I won't loose much.
[22:58] <GhostConn> but it wont work with 11:10 i have already tried and had someone guide me with that plugin
[22:58] <ikonia> GhostConn: documentation suggests it will work
[22:58] <vlt> mirak: I don’t know what the “(S)” stands for. Either “spare” or just “stopped”.
[22:58] <mirak> i hope it's stopped
[22:59] <josten> ljt: everything I do is on my user account thought...I know that much so far.
[22:59] <meerkats> thx ikonia
[22:59] <GhostConn> ikonia the plug in you are referring to is it called artflow?
[23:00] <Scott_Z> collinjsimpson, there are several versions available, I get the idea of the latest version number(1.3) but do i need any of the "compatibility layer (meta package)" things?
[23:00] <ikonia> GhostConn: yes
[23:00] <collinjsimpson> Scott_Z, yes.
[23:01] <ljt> josten: you should be fine then :). you may be running as a privileged user, but not all software on your comp does - if it's your personal machine (and not a server) it's probs a non-issue so just ignore me :P
[23:01] <ljt> josten: have fun using ubuntu :D
[23:02] <Scott_Z> Collinjsimpson, Does it do somekind of sudo windows registry? My software requires entries in the registry?
[23:02] <GhostConn> i downloaded the plug in and copied to to the plugins directory for rhythmbox and once i started the plugin it came up with a message stating artflow is unsupported from 11:04
[23:02] <mirak> vlt, maybe i should do something like mdadm --create /dev/sda2 missing ?
[23:02] <collinjsimpson> Scott_Z, Yes. It has it's own registry. Look at the documentation.
[23:02] <ikonia> GhostConn: documentation doesn't suggest that, but I've not looked into it in massive detail
[23:02] <Scott_Z> sorry to bug you with all the newbie questions. I will download now and try. Thanks for the help
[23:03] <ikonia> Scott_Z: it's no bother, everyone learns from somewhere
[23:03] <GhostConn> understandable meh ill just deal with gmusicbrowser it supports all my media properly which i like.. easy to use interface just lacking cover flow
[23:03] <teage> Hi guys, How do I fix this .....aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32........
[23:04] <collinjsimpson> Scott_Z, Not a problem. Good luck!
[23:04] <teage> same thing when I run apt-get
[23:04] <josten> ljt: I am the admin, but everything I do like internet clients like now, I user my standard user account.
[23:04] <_johnny> teage: are you running a mix of 64 and 32bit ?
[23:04] <zykotick9> _johnny: that would be my guess ;)
[23:04] <mirak> vlt, you are right, it have the spare status
[23:04] <mirak> i am fucked
[23:04] <GhostConn> any good free linux/unix courses online?
[23:05] <ikonia> mirak: tone down the language
[23:05] <ikonia> GhostConn: nothing to do with ubuntu so offtopic for this channel
[23:05] <teage> _johnny: Yes, after this little miss hap I would just rather do without the 32bit
[23:05] <_johnny> hi, i'm trying to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 10.10, but it keeps insisting that: "The package 'update-manager-core' is marked for removal but it is in  the removal blacklist.", any ideas?
[23:05] <josten> ljt: I wouldn't ignore you for anything.  You're helping me. Could you type that command in again with the spacing.  Thanks a lot again!!
[23:06] <zykotick9> _johnny: before you update to 10.10, realize if you wait until 12.04 is released, you can to the jump from 10.04->12.04 (the other way, you'll have to upgrade to every version in between 10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10->12.04
[23:07] <_johnny> I know, but I have to upgrade from 10.04
[23:08] <zykotick9> _johnny: i think you mean "I have to downgrade from 10.04" ;)
[23:08] <GhostConn> ikonia.. I have a good question lol... I have a asus crosshair mothboard which has two lan connections to use nforse. With windows i can set one for upload and one for download is there a linux driver
[23:08] <_johnny> zykotick9: that would be a very odd way to get to 11.10 :)
[23:08] <mirko1> side question: perhaps slightly OT: what happens to the Gnome desktop on a 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade. hadn't the mood to try it yet.
[23:08] <ikonia> GhostConn: nforce has solid support in linux, it's included in the kernel, it's called "Afterdeath"
[23:08] <zykotick9> _johnny: lol, i'd consider 10.04->11.10 a downgrade (but that's just me)
[23:09] <nibbler_> GhostConn, one for up onde for download? that sounds more than strange to me
[23:09] <ikonia> nibbler_: it's nonsense, I'm ignoring it, but the cards are supported
[23:09] <_johnny> well, then how do i downgrade from 10.04 to 11.10 when i keep getting the update-manager-core marked for removal?
[23:09] <nibbler_> GhostConn, 1) you have hardly any controll about which way any incoming packet would take (if you ingore lacp)
[23:10] <nibbler_> ikonia, ack
[23:11] <GhostConn> i can either bridge two connections or if I have both plugged into my router with the nforse drive in windows I could choose which port would upload or download. Now every time I start my computer with linux I have to disable both connections and only leave one on
[23:12] <waters33637> QUESTION: I have a headless ubuntu 11.10 box that keeps turning off on me everyday ... how would i start to track down this problem? It also has webmin installed
[23:13] <zykotick9> !webmin | waters33637
[23:13] <teage> _johnny: My archives folder has never been cleared, You think maybe doing dpkg -i *.deb would maybe install or correct my problem?
[23:13] <GhostConn> i have a 8mb connection and used bitcommet with windows and i could reach up to 5mbps dl speeds with transmission i only hit 2mb tops i don't understand I tried the exact same torrent with both applications
[23:13] <waters33637> ubottu ... do we have a replacement?
[23:14] <_johnny> ELF problems are usually because you're trying to use something which was compiled for 32bit on a 64bit OS (or vice versa)
[23:14] <_johnny> teage:
[23:14] <teage> _johnny: how would I uninstall all my 32bit apps. Completely
[23:14] <helloubuntuu> Hello, is there any program to create a customised ubuntu distribution? (changing wallpaper, apt sources, programs)
[23:15] <Corey> waters33637: Check the logs, see if a shutdown is being triggered, if a thermal event is being reported,etc.
[23:15] <teage> _johnny: without graphic package manager cause it dont work.
[23:15] <Corey> waters33637: Could also be a BIOS setting, but that's less likely.
[23:15] <waters33637> corey - .. what logs should i look closely at?
[23:15] <Corey> !logs | waters33637
[23:15] <Corey> ER.
[23:15] <Corey> WHoops.
[23:16] <Corey> waters33637: /var/log/* is a good place to start.
[23:16] <waters33637> lol ... ok ... thanks
[23:16] <zykotick9> teage: 1) are you on 11.10?  2) what is output of "dpkg --print-architecture"
[23:16] <_johnny> teage: are you running 64bit?
[23:16] <teage> zykotick9: nope. LTS lucid
[23:17] <teage> _johnny: yes
[23:17] <GhostConn> is there a better alternative to transmission ?
[23:17] <_johnny> zykotick9: what does 11.10 have to do with it? :p
[23:17] <KM0201> GhostConn: i believe utorrent has a linux version.. but i doubt transmission is your issue.
[23:18] <zykotick9> _johnny: 11.10 has the multiarch, so you have 32 and 64 bit packages on the same system
[23:18] <_johnny> sweet
[23:18] <_johnny> and you're telling me not to upgrade :p
[23:18] <zykotick9> _johnny: so far, no really ;)
[23:18] <teage> zykotick9: anything over lucid does not play well with my old beat up lappy. when i upgrad it will be with a new computer
[23:19] <GhostConn> i know its not transmission its because i dont have both wired connections enabled  I get no connection if i do
[23:19] <llamahawk> I am trying to get Wireshark running but according to it there are no interfaces avaliable for capture
[23:19] <llamahawk> advice?
[23:19] <zykotick9> llamahawk: are you starting it with "gksudo wireshark"
[23:20] <GhostConn> how would i bride two wired connections
[23:21] <llamahawk> zykotick9 i am usinga GUI
[23:21] <ljt> llamahawk: you need to be the root user to access network interfaces
[23:21] <llamahawk> should i start it with root power
[23:21] <zykotick9> llamahawk: only if you want it to work
[23:21] <llamahawk> aww i see
[23:21] <llamahawk> ill give it a try thx
[23:21] <_johnny> ok, this is really starting to get on my nerves. keeps saying update-manager-core is marked for remoal. guess i'll try to dvd upgrade..
[23:22] <zykotick9> _johnny: fyi the dvd can't be used for upgrading (you need an alternative cd for that)
[23:22] <ljt> lahwran: you can edit the shortcut and prepend gksudo
[23:22] <zykotick9> !alternative | _johnny
[23:22] <llamahawk> ljt, zykotick9: thx im up and running. I def need to get use to using root again
[23:22] <ljt> lahwran: oops sorry autocomplete fail
[23:22] <teage> Im installing all them packages in my archives folder, will see if it works.
[23:22] <_johnny> zorx: yeah, sorry, that's what i meant :)
[23:23] <_johnny> zykotick9: even. http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso ;)
[23:28] <Scott_Z> how do i open a console window?
[23:29] <teage> I thinks its gonna work, I got firefox back so far
[23:29] <aboudreault> looks like start-stop-daemon is waiting that my process finish?
[23:31] <_johnny> zykotick9: lol, what the... it still complaints over update-manager-core, even when installing from the cd..
[23:32] <ljt> Scott_Z: ctrl - alt - t
[23:32] <Scott_Z> ljt, thanks
[23:32] <zykotick9> _johnny: ahhh, sorry i have no suggestions.  I don't personally think ubuntu should every be updated, to many issues.  Best of luck.
[23:33] <_johnny> ok, thanks
[23:39] <Scott_Z> what is the default root password?
[23:39] <zykotick9> !root | Scott_Z
[23:39] <wylde> Scott_Z: there isn't one
[23:40] <_johnny> there is no spoon?
[23:40] <Scott_Z> I am running a livecd version, trying things out. I need to do an su root and it is asking for a password. I tried root, leaving it blank, and ubuntu.
[23:40] <wylde> bahahaha @ The Matrix reference. :)
[23:40] <_johnny> :(
[23:40] <zykotick9> Scott_Z: try "sudo -i" instead
[23:41] <zykotick9> Scott_Z: fyi, if you claim to need root (in ubuntu), probably means you are doing something wrong...
[23:41] <Scott_Z> sudo -i worked.. thanks
[23:46] <myz> i want ot know, if there are two default routes in the routing table, which one the kernel use??
[23:46] <nibbler_> myz, ECMP, you never know
[23:46] <nibbler_> myz, unless you do some iproute2 stuff
[23:47] <nibbler_> myz, or set different metrics
[23:48] <myz> yes, you are right, it is about the metrics
[23:49] <exzqio> allo'
[23:57] <OsamaObama> What is the default firewall?
[23:58] <Daekdroom> !ufw | OsamaObama
[23:59] <OsamaObama> Daekdroom: Where is the firewall inbuilt? What is the name of it?