[00:00] ochosi, good night, and thanks [00:00] np, good night to you (and everyone else) too [00:08] same here, good night [00:08] nighty mr_pouit! [00:46] i'm off for today too, good night/day everybody === holstein_ is now known as holstein [10:08] kernel problems should be fixed again by cjwatson [11:31] madnick, ? [11:38] madnick, http://imagebin.org/204632 [12:13] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_countdown/draft-1.png [12:14] what do you guys like of that? [12:20] no bird, +1 [12:20] last one should probably be "it's here" or somesuch though [12:21] sure, i'm working on it [12:21] that's just a quick draft [12:21] :) [12:21] had to test if i can get the circular stuff done easily in batch [12:22] yeah, that looks good [12:33] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_countdown/draft-2.png [12:36] :D [12:36] mouse is good [12:36] good [12:37] i thought that would be fun [12:59] extra! http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_countdown/draft-2-wide.png [13:17] mr_pouit, what was the image that was broken due the kernel change again? [13:25] bbl [13:45] What, NO bird?! YOU'RE INSANE, THE WHOLE LOT!!1one === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:14] knome: i was afraid of that (pic). The problem is, there is no way of telling how many messages will become present, so using 2 labels, may not be optimal either since you may miss important aspects of the message. Dynamically constructing labels also suffers from flaws, in the way that if multiple messages [14:15] appears, then it would basically "build over" the logo in the worst case [14:15] How about we change the font size? [14:29] I guess ubuntu-logo.script DRTR [14:29] *DTRT [14:33] iirc they do not show any text [14:40] yes they do [14:40] (I've seen it already at fsck time) [15:02] Hi! [15:11] madnick, i'm okay with making the font size smaller, though i don't think that will solve all of our problems. [15:11] madnick, is it too hard to show, say, five last messages? [15:11] madnick, (and use appropriate linebreaks) [15:12] madnick, we have less than four hours to do this, though [15:13] ochosi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/962225 [15:13] Launchpad bug 962225 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "icon cache generation failure" [High,Confirmed] [15:14] mr_pouit, did you notice we got the freeze exceptions for the audio bugs? [15:15] bug 961744 and bug 961745 [15:15] Launchpad bug 961744 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Replace xfce4-mixer with pavucontrol" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961744 [15:15] Launchpad bug 961745 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Prefer pavucontrol over xfce4-mixer in Xubuntu-session" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961745 [15:16] I can only upload when i'm back home [15:16] mr_pouit, and when is that? [15:16] 20utc+1 very likely [15:16] err, actually, we have a bit less than *six* hours... [15:16] huho, so that coverts to 19UTC? :P [15:16] two hours to fix it. :) [15:17] should be enough... [15:18] madnick, are you available to work on the plymouth issue in the next hours? [15:18] i was thinking of going for a walk, then get back to work on these things [15:18] i also need to send some work-emails today, though [15:19] knome: [15:19] Its not that its hard to make it that way, its that I do not have access to my dev environment until the 25th [15:19] huh [15:20] I told you yesterday :\ [15:20] i think i forgot. [15:20] well i told ochosi :P [15:20] right... ;) [15:20] do you think you could make the change on-the-fly? i can test it, if you tell me how [15:21] well, the font-alternative i would just need to change very little, doing the message things im not sure [15:22] astraljava, you around? [15:23] would basically need to implement a queue in its most basic implementation [15:23] yes [15:23] that should be somewhat trivial [15:24] indeed [15:24] so you might be able to pull it off today? :)) [15:24] Well, I suppose if you were running tests while i modify it could work [15:24] just need an editor that can use linux newlines for the code [15:25] i can do the tests for sure, and i'm sure others can help too [15:25] i will take a walk soonish [15:25] maybe 1 hour or a bit more from now i'm ready for the tests [15:25] okay [15:29] I have some questions for you about the implementation, like chronologically-wise [15:29] newest should be at bottom [15:29] okay [15:29] i think 5 lines would be a good queue/history to show at a time, what do you think? [15:30] yup [15:30] good [15:31] mr_pouit, ^ [15:59] knome: i made the changes, but i utilized 2 assumptions, which i need validation of, tell when you are back :) [16:00] i'm *still* here, leaving in a few mins :) [16:00] okay [16:00] do you want the code? [16:00] like, do you have time [16:00] :P [16:01] well, i'm at wife's laptop, so it won't be very useful [16:01] okay [16:01] but please do upload it [16:02] Could I pastebin it? Because otherwise I need to try to find some rsync/scp substitute for windows [16:02] sure [16:04] http://ideone.com/tdVEx [16:04] knome: ^ [16:05] madnick, can you do an another paste for the instructions on how to test? [16:05] hm [16:06] or do you want to go through that live? [16:06] Well, I do not acctually remembers all the exact commands since I wrote a script long ago that does it for me, but I can google it [16:06] And tell you [16:06] Or paste the answer [16:06] :P [16:08] sudo update-alternatives --install /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth default.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth 100 ; sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth [16:08] then [16:08] sudo plymouthd ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 5 ; sudo plymouth quit [16:08] but [16:09] the thing one wants to test [16:09] is an actual boot [16:09] so you just need the first part [16:09] to install the theeme [16:09] theme* [16:09] ok [16:09] but since its already installed [16:09] if its a testing machine [16:09] just change the code [16:09] right [16:09] i'll install precise in vbox then :) [16:10] for me booting it in vbox is so fast i cant even see it [16:10] hmm. [16:10] you need to force fsck [16:10] what if i force fsck ? :P [16:10] yeah [16:10] yup [16:10] if you remember how to do that, paste that too :P [16:10] you like touch some file [16:10] i dont remember which :P [16:11] i remember that too :P [16:11] btw [16:11] mm? [16:11] VBox doesnt always even show the plymouth for me [16:11] it shows the text version [16:11] very often [16:11] ok... i think i've seen the graphical plymouth though [16:12] okay good [16:12] anyway, i'm off for the wal [16:12] walk [16:12] see you soonish! [16:12] cya [16:14] also, to serve as a reminder to me, ive been meaning to ask you about a website thing [16:25] blueman uploaded last night BTW [17:02] i'm back [17:03] madnick, re: website: go ahead [17:09] * knome is updating the precise system to newest packages [17:26] pasi [17:26] errh [17:26] wrong window [17:28] madnick, the messages are still printed on one line [17:29] or do i need to run the sudo plymouthd ... line? [17:29] or is it just ok to reboot [17:31] knome: Were you answering a phone or something? :D [17:32] astraljava, i was typing a password for the precise test vbox [17:33] madnick, ... :P [17:37] * knome is partly afk, cooking [17:40] knome: sorry, its ok to reboot [17:53] madnick, yeah i tested it, and it's all on one line still [18:03] knome: that is not possible [18:04] have you put the script into /lib/plymouth/themes etc? [18:04] overwritten the old one? [18:05] madnick, yes [18:06] i could imagine it all going on 1 line if my multiplier is wrong, but it would be overlapping in that case, it would look like a mess of text [18:07] I am sorry, but I cannot see any way for this to look identical to the previous :\ [18:08] well, it is :< [18:08] can you recheck the paste? [18:10] 1 sec [18:13] This cannot be, could you take a screenshot? [18:13] i can [18:13] btw, it looks like it gets a new message [18:13] and it's appended to the same message [18:14] and the message is then realigned to center [18:14] does that help? [18:15] Well, what it does is, it takes a new messages, puts that "first" (lowest) while moving the previous up [18:16] It should, in event of a new message [18:16] Move the previous messages up on the screen, unless its the 5th which then goes away [18:16] madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-1.png [18:16] and the new message sits at the bottom [18:17] I see [18:17] gimme 5 minutes [18:17] sure [18:21] knome: http://ideone.com/sdRdC [18:21] try that [18:22] It might not work at all tho, Im not sure of parameters of a function and there is no real reference for plymouth afaik, but if it utilizes logic it should work :) [18:22] just a sec... [18:25] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-2.png [18:25] the same [18:26] * knome checks that it is /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo.script that he needs to overwrite [18:26] /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.script [18:26] ^ of course [18:27] (that's what i've been overwriting) [18:27] mm, forgot to assign the value back hehe [18:28] acctually i did not [18:28] mmkay [18:32] i have time ;) [18:32] it'd be great it if was ready in approx. 30mins though, to be ready for mr_pouit [18:33] - Finally, we'll need to create a new init image with the new settings. [18:33] $ sudo update-initramfs -u [18:33] some say that [18:33] aha [18:33] let me try that [18:33] but it is weird, because plymouth is interpretating the script [18:33] So it shouldnt have some seperate disk cache [18:33] but if it works then awesome :) [18:34] what isn't weird in this world? [18:34] * knome gets philosophical [18:34] :P [18:35] hahah, okay, now plymouth disappeared completely [18:35] should i try the old script again? [18:35] that may be a code error, like syntax [18:35] check the logs, if thats true then progress is made! :) [18:35] which log? [18:35] good question [18:35] heh [18:36] I know there is plymouth logs in /var/log [18:36] bu [18:36] t [18:36] I dont know if the syntax log is there [18:36] atleast when i try my scripts i made a seperate one, but it makes sense to have a centralized one covering everything related tho [18:36] so look there [18:37] at least no syntax log errors with grep -i 'plymouth [18:37] ' [18:38] should i try the first paste? [18:38] i mean, this seems to change things now at least [18:38] well, it had a bug, but if it starts working again when trying the first one, we know the second one is wrong [18:38] ok, i'll try [18:41] now plymouth works again (hurrah!), and: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-3.png [18:42] yes, that looks like a more reasonable error [18:42] now all i need to do [18:43] Is find the syntax error [18:43] hehe [18:43] in the new one, that caused this error [18:43] :( [18:45] http://ideone.com/2Mloa [18:45] that should do it :) [18:45] let's see [18:47] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-4.png [18:48] better! [18:48] hm, not sure why the giant space [18:48] empty messages? [18:48] perhaps an empty message, but that is not very good [18:48] well [18:48] let me adjust it [18:48] hehe [18:49] sure [18:49] this is looking good already [18:50] http://ideone.com/Veby5 [18:50] might be worse, might be perfect :) [18:50] let's try that [18:52] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-5.png [18:52] it's better [18:52] but still empty space [18:53] hm [18:53] as mr_pouit, "keys:" is probably some special message ubuntu is using [18:53] can you regexp those away? [18:56] yup [18:56] thanks [18:56] :) [19:00] http://ideone.com/zRHHn [19:00] that should fix both issues [19:00] testing [19:01] o-ou [19:02] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-6.png [19:02] :-| [19:02] how is that even possible lol [19:02] don't ask me ;) [19:04] MAGIC TECHNOLOGY! [19:05] http://ideone.com/khSo1 [19:05] try that [19:05] * knome tries [19:07] madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-7.png [19:07] madnick, btw, the white throbber doesn't go to the end of the throbber "bg". it lacks about 10px from the right edge [19:07] ok [19:07] but let's fix that for Q [19:08] let's fix the text issue now :) [19:08] i found one of the "errors" but the blank thing is odd... [19:08] because i check for it being empty [19:09] maybe it's not empty message, maybe it has spaces? [19:09] true [19:10] ochosi, the "install additional plugins" -message in FF is black, and the close -icon is simply black on black... :) [19:22] madnick, you still alive? :) [19:23] http://ideone.com/QxW3E [19:24] i base those changes on a commit to plymouth source in 2010 [19:24] thus i dont know for sure that its still current [19:24] testing [19:25] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-8.png [19:26] didn't seem to change anything [19:26] well, bit more padding [19:26] okay, big gun time :) [19:26] i will submit a testcase [19:26] 1 sec [19:26] sure [19:27] 1,5h left ;] [19:27] Not taking it close by any means. [19:27] nope. [19:28] http://ideone.com/dKIxv [19:29] that should give a view of the current state [19:29] k [19:29] testing, initramfs building [19:30] madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-9.png [19:31] interesting [19:31] really [19:32] hmmm... [19:32] why isn't my desktop loading?? [19:32] that isnt my fault tho ;P [19:32] it is! :P [19:33] I know 2 things [19:33] ok... :D [19:33] that's not much, but if it can help us... [19:33] The substring function does not work as expected, and the huge gap is not because of a message [19:33] ok [19:34] weird, now the desktop loads [19:34] booted 1st time, didn't loa [19:34] booted 2nd time, loads [19:36] if it looks like we can't fix those, i prefer the padding on http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-7.png [19:37] ok [19:37] * knome is getting a bit nervous waiting for mr_pouit to get back [19:38] I think the [19:38] "keys:" is fixed now [19:38] but [19:38] \o/ [19:38] The space remains... [19:38] that's not too awful. [19:38] but let's keep going, if we could spot the issue before mr_pouit is back [19:38] no but it is weird [19:38] * knome is pinging mr_pouit if that would get him here quicker. [19:40] I'm back already, but working on 3 uploads, so not really back :< [19:44] mr_pouit, mmh. those audio-things included? [19:44] http://ideone.com/RxKk8 [19:44] how about that [19:45] updating initrmfs [19:46] madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-10.png [19:46] huho [19:47] substr not perfect [19:47] and there was a #NULL [19:47] after those messages [19:47] before it's been "keys:" [19:47] now it was "#NULL" [19:49] knome: of course :] [19:49] mr_pouit, great! :] [19:50] mr_pouit, do you think you will have a bit time for this upload too? (: [19:52] dinner time soon [19:52] bleh [19:52] beta2 freeze time soon [19:52] but it should be ok (it's 21utc?) [19:52] i don't want the cut messages [19:52] 21utc, yes [19:52] so in 2 hours? [19:52] 1? [19:52] 1 [19:52] meh [19:52] i know [19:53] http://ideone.com/nYoEE [19:53] updating initramfs [19:54] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-11.png [19:55] madnick, unless you have *any* idea of the space, let's go with this [19:55] no you see [19:55] i fixed [19:55] the substring error [19:55] :) [19:55] yes [19:55] i did, that's why i think we should go with this [19:55] unless you know how to fix the space-problem [19:55] ill have 1 more look [19:55] gimme 5 [19:55] ok [19:56] btw, now the line that used to be "keys:" is appearing as a empty newline [19:56] if that helps... [19:57] mr_pouit, we're ready for an upload soon [19:58] mr_pouit: BTW, I just took your lightdm package with one fix as I never got around to merging with the pkg-xfce version, I can do that for Q [19:58] *lightdm-gtk-greeter [19:58] yay \\o (for both) [19:59] we are the sultans of swing!! :) [19:59] I'll have to do a release of lightdm-gtk-greeter to reinclude all translations :< [19:59] knome: where's the code [19:59] +? [19:59] mr_pouit, i'm uploading it to xubuntu-artwork [19:59] mr_pouit, that ok? [19:59] mr_pouit, i will also add the patch for the bug [19:59] bug #961546 [19:59] Launchpad bug 961546 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu Plymouth theme shows cut messages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961546 [20:00] care to explain this: [20:00] for(i = 4; i > 0; i--) [20:00] for(i = 0; i < 5; i++) { [20:00] what kind of black magic of harcoded thing is it? [20:00] mr_pouit, i think that's the stuff handling how the lines are appearing [20:01] mr_pouit, the hardcoded thing here is that we have a max. of 5 visible lines [20:01] okay, if it works, fine by me [20:01] it does, i've been testing it personally [20:01] (if it doesn't, you'll have to find someone else this night to upload a fix ;>) [20:01] we can make the code cuter at Q [20:02] no, really, i've tested it now 11 times... [20:02] ;) [20:02] (we're trying to fix other issues) [20:02] i'm waiting for one more upload, then i'm uploading to xubuntu-artwork (that's fine?) [20:03] index 4 down to index 1, then manually 0, the other line is for index 0 to 4, in this case it puts lowest index lowest [20:03] madnick, i'm pretty sure mr_pouit knows what for() does (: [20:03] FWIW, I've not had an issue with xfce4-mixer and PA [20:04] ochosi: I uploaded xubuntu-artwork without the buggy folder, feel free to remove it from your git branch [20:04] knome: no i mean, thats why i use it in that manner, to do the index like that, i could do in another order [20:04] but [20:04] :) [20:04] madnick, is there a new paste to test? [20:05] 1 sec, im going over another section [20:05] my finger is on the trigger, i don't want to make mr_pouit angry (: [20:10] http://ideone.com/0P3uW [20:10] one last test! [20:10] [ubuntu/precise] lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.1.4-0ubuntu1 (New) [20:10] yay micahg [20:10]