[00:00] <knome> ochosi, good night, and thanks
[00:00] <ochosi> np, good night to you (and everyone else) too
[00:08] <mr_pouit> same here, good night
[00:08] <knome> nighty mr_pouit!
[00:46] <knome> i'm off for today too, good night/day everybody
[10:08] <knome> kernel problems should be fixed again by cjwatson
[11:31] <knome> madnick, ?
[11:38] <knome> madnick, http://imagebin.org/204632
[12:13] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_countdown/draft-1.png
[12:14] <knome> what do you guys like of that?
[12:20] <pleia2> no bird, +1
[12:20] <pleia2> last one should probably be "it's here" or somesuch though
[12:21] <knome> sure, i'm working on it
[12:21] <knome> that's just a quick draft
[12:21] <pleia2> :)
[12:21] <knome> had to test if i can get the circular stuff done easily in batch
[12:22] <pleia2> yeah, that looks good
[12:33] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_countdown/draft-2.png
[12:36] <pleia2> :D
[12:36] <pleia2> mouse is good
[12:36] <knome> good
[12:37] <knome> i thought that would be fun
[12:59] <knome> extra! http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_countdown/draft-2-wide.png
[13:17] <knome> mr_pouit, what was the image that was broken due the kernel change again?
[13:25] <knome> bbl
[13:45] <astraljava> What, NO bird?! YOU'RE INSANE, THE WHOLE LOT!!1one
[14:14] <madnick> knome: i was afraid of that (pic). The problem is, there is no way of telling how many messages will become present, so using 2 labels, may not be optimal either since you may miss important aspects of the message. Dynamically constructing labels also suffers from flaws, in the way that if multiple messages
[14:15] <madnick> appears, then it would basically "build over" the logo in the worst case
[14:15] <madnick> How about we change the font size?
[14:29] <mr_pouit> I guess ubuntu-logo.script DRTR
[14:29] <mr_pouit> *DTRT
[14:33] <madnick> iirc they do not show any text
[14:40] <mr_pouit> yes they do
[14:40] <mr_pouit> (I've seen it already at fsck time)
[15:02] <PeripheralVision> Hi!
[15:11] <knome> madnick, i'm okay with making the font size smaller, though i don't think that will solve all of our problems.
[15:11] <knome> madnick, is it too hard to show, say, five last messages?
[15:11] <knome> madnick, (and use appropriate linebreaks)
[15:12] <knome> madnick, we have less than four hours to do this, though
[15:13] <mr_pouit> ochosi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/962225
[15:14] <knome> mr_pouit, did you notice we got the freeze exceptions for the audio bugs?
[15:15] <knome> bug 961744 and bug 961745
[15:16] <mr_pouit> I can only upload when i'm back home
[15:16] <knome> mr_pouit, and when is that?
[15:16] <mr_pouit> 20utc+1 very likely
[15:16] <knome> err, actually, we have a bit less than *six* hours...
[15:16] <knome> huho, so that coverts to 19UTC? :P
[15:16] <knome> two hours to fix it. :)
[15:17] <knome> should be enough...
[15:18] <knome> madnick, are you available to work on the plymouth issue in the next hours?
[15:18] <knome> i was thinking of going for a walk, then get back to work on these things
[15:18] <knome> i also need to send some work-emails today, though
[15:19] <madnick> knome: 
[15:19] <madnick> Its not that its hard to make it that way, its that I do not have access to my dev environment until the 25th
[15:19] <knome> huh
[15:20] <madnick> I told you yesterday :\
[15:20] <knome> i think i forgot.
[15:20] <madnick> well i told ochosi :P
[15:20] <knome> right... ;)
[15:20] <knome> do you think you could make the change on-the-fly? i can test it, if you tell me how
[15:21] <madnick> well, the font-alternative i would just need to change very little, doing the message things im not sure
[15:22] <knome> astraljava, you around?
[15:23] <madnick> would basically need to implement a queue in its most basic implementation
[15:23] <knome> yes
[15:23] <knome> that should be somewhat trivial
[15:24] <madnick> indeed
[15:24] <knome> so you might be able to pull it off today? :))
[15:24] <madnick> Well, I suppose if you were running tests while i modify it could work
[15:24] <madnick> just need an editor that can use linux newlines for the code
[15:25] <knome> i can do the tests for sure, and i'm sure others can help too 
[15:25] <knome> i will take a walk soonish
[15:25] <knome> maybe 1 hour or a bit more from now i'm ready for the tests
[15:25] <madnick> okay
[15:29] <madnick> I have some questions for you about the implementation, like chronologically-wise
[15:29] <knome> newest should be at bottom
[15:29] <madnick> okay
[15:29] <knome> i think 5 lines would be a good queue/history to show at a time, what do you think?
[15:30] <madnick> yup
[15:30] <knome> good
[15:31] <knome> mr_pouit, ^
[15:59] <madnick> knome: i made the changes, but i utilized 2 assumptions, which i need validation of, tell when you are back :)
[16:00] <knome> i'm *still* here, leaving in a few mins :)
[16:00] <madnick> okay
[16:00] <madnick> do you want the code?
[16:00] <madnick> like, do you have time
[16:00] <madnick> :P
[16:01] <knome> well, i'm at wife's laptop, so it won't be very useful
[16:01] <madnick> okay
[16:01] <knome> but please do upload it
[16:02] <madnick> Could I pastebin it? Because otherwise I need to try to find some rsync/scp substitute for windows
[16:02] <knome> sure
[16:04] <madnick> http://ideone.com/tdVEx
[16:04] <madnick> knome: ^
[16:05] <knome> madnick, can you do an another paste for the instructions on how to test?
[16:05] <madnick> hm
[16:06] <knome> or do you want to go through that live?
[16:06] <madnick> Well, I do not acctually remembers all the exact commands since I wrote a script long ago that does it for me, but I can google it
[16:06] <madnick> And tell you
[16:06] <madnick> Or paste the answer
[16:06] <madnick> :P
[16:08] <madnick> sudo update-alternatives --install /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth default.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth 100 ; sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[16:08] <madnick> then 
[16:08] <madnick> sudo plymouthd ; sudo plymouth --show-splash ; sleep 5 ; sudo plymouth quit
[16:08] <madnick> but
[16:09] <madnick> the thing one wants to test
[16:09] <madnick> is an actual boot
[16:09] <madnick> so you just need the first part
[16:09] <madnick> to install the theeme
[16:09] <madnick> theme*
[16:09] <knome> ok
[16:09] <madnick> but since its already installed
[16:09] <madnick> if its a testing machine
[16:09] <madnick> just change the code
[16:09] <knome> right
[16:09] <knome> i'll install precise in vbox then :)
[16:10] <madnick> for me booting it in vbox is so fast i cant even see it
[16:10] <knome> hmm.
[16:10] <madnick> you need to force fsck
[16:10] <knome> what if i force fsck ? :P
[16:10] <knome> yeah
[16:10] <madnick> yup
[16:10] <knome> if you remember how to do that, paste that too :P
[16:10] <madnick> you like touch some file
[16:10] <madnick> i dont remember which :P
[16:11] <knome> i remember that too :P
[16:11] <madnick> btw
[16:11] <knome> mm?
[16:11] <madnick> VBox doesnt always even show the plymouth for me
[16:11] <madnick> it shows the text version
[16:11] <madnick> very often
[16:11] <knome> ok... i think i've seen the graphical plymouth though
[16:12] <madnick> okay good
[16:12] <knome> anyway, i'm off for the wal
[16:12] <knome> walk
[16:12] <knome> see you soonish!
[16:12] <madnick> cya
[16:14] <madnick> also, to serve as a reminder to me, ive been meaning to ask you about a website thing 
[16:25] <micahg> blueman uploaded last night BTW
[17:02] <knome> i'm back
[17:03] <knome> madnick, re: website: go ahead
[17:09]  * knome is updating the precise system to newest packages
[17:26] <knome> pasi
[17:26] <knome> errh
[17:26] <knome> wrong window
[17:28] <knome> madnick, the messages are still printed on one line
[17:29] <knome> or do i need to run the sudo plymouthd ... line?
[17:29] <knome> or is it just ok to reboot
[17:31] <astraljava> knome: Were you answering a phone or something? :D
[17:32] <knome> astraljava, i was typing a password for the precise test vbox
[17:33] <knome> madnick, ... :P
[17:37]  * knome is partly afk, cooking
[17:40] <madnick> knome: sorry, its ok to reboot
[17:53] <knome> madnick, yeah i tested it, and it's all on one line still
[18:03] <madnick> knome: that is not possible
[18:04] <madnick> have you put the script into /lib/plymouth/themes etc?
[18:04] <madnick> overwritten the old one?
[18:05] <knome> madnick, yes
[18:06] <madnick> i could imagine it all going on 1 line if my multiplier is wrong, but it would be overlapping in that case, it would look like a mess of text
[18:07] <madnick> I am sorry, but I cannot see any way for this to look identical to the previous :\
[18:08] <knome> well, it is :<
[18:08] <knome> can you recheck the paste?
[18:10] <madnick> 1 sec
[18:13] <madnick> This cannot be, could you take a screenshot?
[18:13] <knome> i can
[18:13] <knome> btw, it looks like it gets a new message
[18:13] <knome> and it's appended to the same message
[18:14] <knome> and the message is then realigned to center
[18:14] <knome> does that help?
[18:15] <madnick> Well, what it does is, it takes a new messages, puts that "first" (lowest) while moving the previous up
[18:16] <madnick> It should, in event of a new message
[18:16] <madnick> Move the previous messages up on the screen, unless its the 5th which then goes away
[18:16] <knome> madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-1.png
[18:16] <madnick> and the new message sits at the bottom
[18:17] <madnick> I see
[18:17] <madnick> gimme 5 minutes
[18:17] <knome> sure
[18:21] <madnick> knome: http://ideone.com/sdRdC
[18:21] <madnick> try that
[18:22] <madnick> It might not work at all tho, Im not sure of parameters of a function and there is no real reference for plymouth afaik, but if it utilizes logic it should work :)
[18:22] <knome> just a sec...
[18:25] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-2.png
[18:25] <knome> the same
[18:26]  * knome checks that it is /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo.script that he needs to overwrite
[18:26] <knome> /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.script 
[18:26] <knome> ^ of course
[18:27] <knome> (that's what i've been overwriting)
[18:27] <madnick> mm, forgot to assign the value back hehe
[18:28] <madnick> acctually i did not
[18:28] <knome> mmkay
[18:32] <knome> i have time ;)
[18:32] <knome> it'd be great it if was ready in approx. 30mins though, to be ready for mr_pouit 
[18:33] <madnick> - Finally, we'll need to create a new init image with the new settings.
[18:33] <madnick> $ sudo update-initramfs -u
[18:33] <madnick> some say that
[18:33] <knome> aha
[18:33] <knome> let me try that
[18:33] <madnick> but it is weird, because plymouth is interpretating the script
[18:33] <madnick> So it shouldnt have some seperate disk cache
[18:33] <madnick> but if it works then awesome :)
[18:34] <knome> what isn't weird in this world?
[18:34]  * knome gets philosophical
[18:34] <madnick> :P
[18:35] <knome> hahah, okay, now plymouth disappeared completely
[18:35] <knome> should i try the old script again?
[18:35] <madnick> that may be a code error, like syntax
[18:35] <madnick> check the logs, if thats true then progress is made! :)
[18:35] <knome> which log?
[18:35] <madnick> good question
[18:35] <knome> heh
[18:36] <madnick> I know there is plymouth logs in /var/log
[18:36] <madnick> bu
[18:36] <madnick> t
[18:36] <madnick> I dont know if the syntax log is there
[18:36] <madnick> atleast when i try my scripts i made a seperate one, but it makes sense to have a centralized one covering everything related tho
[18:36] <madnick> so look there
[18:37] <knome>  at least no syntax log errors with grep -i 'plymouth
[18:37] <knome> '
[18:38] <knome> should i try the first paste?
[18:38] <knome> i mean, this seems to change things now at least
[18:38] <madnick> well, it had a bug, but if it starts working again when trying the first one, we know the second one is wrong
[18:38] <knome> ok, i'll try
[18:41] <knome> now plymouth works again (hurrah!), and: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-3.png
[18:42] <madnick> yes, that looks like a more reasonable error
[18:42] <madnick> now all i need to do
[18:43] <madnick> Is find the syntax error
[18:43] <knome> hehe
[18:43] <madnick> in the new one, that caused this error
[18:43] <madnick> :(
[18:45] <madnick> http://ideone.com/2Mloa
[18:45] <madnick> that should do it :)
[18:45] <knome> let's see
[18:47] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-4.png
[18:48] <knome> better!
[18:48] <madnick> hm, not sure why the giant space
[18:48] <knome> empty messages?
[18:48] <madnick> perhaps an empty message, but that is not very good
[18:48] <madnick> well
[18:48] <madnick> let me adjust it
[18:48] <knome> hehe
[18:49] <knome> sure
[18:49] <knome> this is looking good already
[18:50] <madnick> http://ideone.com/Veby5
[18:50] <madnick> might be worse, might be perfect :)
[18:50] <knome> let's try that
[18:52] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-5.png
[18:52] <knome> it's better
[18:52] <knome> but still empty space
[18:53] <madnick> hm
[18:53] <knome> as mr_pouit, "keys:" is probably some special message ubuntu is using
[18:53] <knome> can you regexp those away?
[18:56] <madnick> yup
[18:56] <knome> thanks
[18:56] <knome> :)
[19:00] <madnick> http://ideone.com/zRHHn
[19:00] <madnick> that should fix both issues
[19:00] <knome> testing
[19:01] <knome> o-ou
[19:02] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-6.png
[19:02] <madnick> :-|
[19:02] <madnick> how is that even possible lol
[19:02] <knome> don't ask me ;)
[19:04] <astraljava> MAGIC TECHNOLOGY!
[19:05] <madnick> http://ideone.com/khSo1
[19:05] <madnick> try that
[19:05]  * knome tries
[19:07] <knome> madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-7.png
[19:07] <knome> madnick, btw, the white throbber doesn't go to the end of the throbber "bg". it lacks about 10px from the right edge
[19:07] <madnick> ok
[19:07] <knome> but let's fix that for Q
[19:08] <knome> let's fix the text issue now :)
[19:08] <madnick> i found one of the "errors" but the blank thing is odd...
[19:08] <madnick> because i check for it being empty
[19:09] <knome> maybe it's not empty message, maybe it has spaces?
[19:09] <madnick> true
[19:10] <knome> ochosi, the "install additional plugins" -message in FF is black, and the close -icon is simply black on black... :)
[19:22] <knome> madnick, you still alive? :)
[19:23] <madnick> http://ideone.com/QxW3E
[19:24] <madnick> i base those changes on a commit to plymouth source in 2010
[19:24] <madnick> thus i dont know for sure that its still current
[19:24] <knome> testing
[19:25] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-8.png
[19:26] <knome> didn't seem to change anything
[19:26] <knome> well, bit more padding
[19:26] <madnick> okay, big gun time :)
[19:26] <madnick> i will submit a testcase
[19:26] <madnick> 1 sec
[19:26] <knome> sure
[19:27] <knome> 1,5h left ;]
[19:27] <astraljava> Not taking it close by any means.
[19:27] <knome> nope.
[19:28] <madnick> http://ideone.com/dKIxv
[19:29] <madnick> that should give a view of the current state
[19:29] <knome> k
[19:29] <knome> testing, initramfs building
[19:30] <knome> madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-9.png
[19:31] <madnick> interesting
[19:31] <knome> really
[19:32] <knome> hmmm...
[19:32] <knome> why isn't my desktop loading??
[19:32] <madnick> that isnt my fault tho ;P
[19:32] <knome> it is! :P
[19:33] <madnick> I know 2 things
[19:33] <knome> ok... :D
[19:33] <knome> that's not much, but if it can help us...
[19:33] <madnick> The substring function does not work as expected, and the huge gap is not because of a message
[19:33] <knome> ok
[19:34] <knome> weird, now the desktop loads
[19:34] <knome> booted 1st time, didn't loa
[19:34] <knome> booted 2nd time, loads
[19:36] <knome> if it looks like we can't fix those, i prefer the padding on http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-7.png
[19:37] <madnick> ok
[19:37]  * knome is getting a bit nervous waiting for mr_pouit to get back
[19:38] <madnick> I think the
[19:38] <madnick> "keys:" is fixed now
[19:38] <madnick> but
[19:38] <knome> \o/
[19:38] <madnick> The space remains...
[19:38] <knome> that's not too awful.
[19:38] <knome> but let's keep going, if we could spot the issue before mr_pouit is back
[19:38] <madnick> no but it is weird
[19:38]  * knome is pinging mr_pouit if that would get him here quicker.
[19:40] <mr_pouit> I'm back already, but working on 3 uploads, so not really back :<
[19:44] <knome> mr_pouit, mmh. those audio-things included?
[19:44] <madnick> http://ideone.com/RxKk8
[19:44] <madnick> how about that
[19:45] <knome> updating initrmfs
[19:46] <knome> madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-10.png
[19:46] <knome> huho
[19:47] <knome> substr not perfect
[19:47] <knome> and there was a #NULL
[19:47] <knome> after those messages
[19:47] <knome> before it's been "keys:"
[19:47] <knome> now it was "#NULL"
[19:49] <mr_pouit> knome: of course :]
[19:49] <knome> mr_pouit, great! :]
[19:50] <knome> mr_pouit, do you think you will have a bit time for this upload too? (:
[19:52] <mr_pouit> dinner time soon
[19:52] <knome> bleh
[19:52] <knome> beta2 freeze time soon
[19:52] <mr_pouit> but it should be ok (it's 21utc?)
[19:52] <knome> i don't want the cut messages
[19:52] <knome> 21utc, yes
[19:52] <mr_pouit> so in 2 hours?
[19:52] <mr_pouit> 1?
[19:52] <knome> 1
[19:52] <mr_pouit> meh
[19:52] <knome> i know
[19:53] <madnick> http://ideone.com/nYoEE
[19:53] <knome> updating initramfs
[19:54] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-11.png
[19:55] <knome> madnick, unless you have *any* idea of the space, let's go with this
[19:55] <madnick> no you see
[19:55] <madnick> i fixed
[19:55] <madnick> the substring error
[19:55] <madnick> :)
[19:55] <knome> yes
[19:55] <knome> i did, that's why i think we should go with this
[19:55] <knome> unless you know how to fix the space-problem
[19:55] <madnick> ill have 1 more look
[19:55] <madnick> gimme 5
[19:55] <knome> ok
[19:56] <knome> btw, now the line that used to be "keys:" is appearing as a empty newline
[19:56] <knome> if that helps...
[19:57] <knome> mr_pouit, we're ready for an upload soon
[19:58] <micahg> mr_pouit: BTW, I just took your lightdm package with one fix as I never got around to merging with the pkg-xfce version, I can do that for Q
[19:58] <micahg> *lightdm-gtk-greeter
[19:58] <mr_pouit> yay \\o (for both)
[19:59] <knome> we are the sultans of swing!! :)
[19:59] <mr_pouit> I'll have to do a release of lightdm-gtk-greeter to reinclude all translations :<
[19:59] <mr_pouit> knome: where's the code
[19:59] <mr_pouit> +?
[19:59] <knome> mr_pouit, i'm uploading it to xubuntu-artwork
[19:59] <knome> mr_pouit, that ok?
[19:59] <knome> mr_pouit, i will also add the patch for the bug
[19:59] <knome> bug #961546
[20:00] <mr_pouit> care to explain this:
[20:00] <mr_pouit> for(i = 4; i > 0; i--)
[20:00] <mr_pouit> for(i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
[20:00] <mr_pouit> what kind of black magic of harcoded thing is it?
[20:00] <knome> mr_pouit, i think that's the stuff handling how the lines are appearing
[20:01] <knome> mr_pouit, the hardcoded thing here is that we have a max. of 5 visible lines
[20:01] <mr_pouit> okay, if it works, fine by me
[20:01] <knome> it does, i've been testing it personally
[20:01] <mr_pouit> (if it doesn't, you'll have to find someone else this night to upload a fix ;>)
[20:01] <knome> we can make the code cuter at Q
[20:02] <knome> no, really, i've tested it now 11 times...
[20:02] <knome> ;)
[20:02] <knome> (we're trying to fix other issues)
[20:02] <knome> i'm waiting for one more upload, then i'm uploading to xubuntu-artwork (that's fine?) 
[20:03] <madnick> index 4 down to index 1, then manually 0, the other line is for index 0 to 4, in this case it puts lowest index lowest
[20:03] <knome> madnick, i'm pretty sure mr_pouit knows what for() does (:
[20:03] <micahg> FWIW, I've not had an issue with xfce4-mixer and PA
[20:04] <mr_pouit> ochosi: I uploaded xubuntu-artwork without the buggy folder, feel free to remove it from your git branch
[20:04] <madnick> knome: no i mean, thats why i use it in that manner, to do the index like that, i could do in another order
[20:04] <madnick> but
[20:04] <knome> :)
[20:04] <knome> madnick, is there a new paste to test?
[20:05] <madnick> 1 sec, im going over another section
[20:05] <knome> my finger is on the trigger, i don't want to make mr_pouit angry (:
[20:10] <madnick> http://ideone.com/0P3uW
[20:10] <knome> one last test!
[20:10] <mr_pouit> [ubuntu/precise] lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.1.4-0ubuntu1 (New)
[20:10] <mr_pouit> yay micahg 
[20:10] <knome> yayy
[20:11] <knome> yay our team
[20:11] <knome> for breaking the Fe record ;)
[20:11] <knome> i suppose, for any derivative, ever
[20:11] <micahg> mr_pouit: sorry, I really should've just uploaded your version last month
[20:12] <knome> madnick, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_plymouth/shot-12.png
[20:12] <knome> here we go then.
[20:12] <madnick> grr
[20:12] <mr_pouit> micahg: well, no big deal, since we couldn't have fixed anything in the greeter anyway (but now we can commit to it directly)
[20:14] <micahg> well, now I just need to get my alioth auth sorted out and then I can request pkg-xfce access so I can fix the version there as well (from the list of fixes I had before)
[20:16] <knome> mr_pouit, uploading to xubuntu-artwork once i get an ACK from release team
[20:19] <knome> mr_pouit, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/precise/revision/176
[20:20] <knome> madnick, one thing
[20:20] <knome> madnick, in the last version
[20:20] <knome> madnick, the empty newline still appeared
[20:21] <knome> madnick, but, weirdly, the first message was still visible
[20:21] <knome> madnick, so it was like; msg; empty line; msg; msg; empty line
[20:21] <knome> madnick, though, not much we can do about it now :)
[20:21] <knome> madnick, thanks for working on it, it's much better now!
[20:22] <mr_pouit> knome: can I upload now?
[20:22] <knome> mr_pouit, yes!!
[20:22] <knome> mr_pouit, please confirm when it's uploaded and i can start breathing again
[20:24] <madnick> knome: how do you mean?
[20:24] <madnick> Is it not the same as the screenshot?
[20:24] <knome> madnick, the screenshots are always *before* the last newline.
[20:24] <knome> madnick, because that appeared only for a really little time
[20:25] <knome> i need to pee.
[20:26] <madnick> but the new line that appeared, appeard at the bottom right?
[20:27] <knome> madnick, yes, but it made one of the two empty lines disappear
[20:27] <knome> madnick, not the topmost message, as you'd expect
[20:27] <madnick> hm
[20:28] <mr_pouit> upload in 15~20min, as soon as optipng finished to take 100% in my test-build
[20:28] <knome> hrrr :)
[20:28] <mr_pouit> micahg: mmh, rejected?
[20:29] <micahg> yeah, postinst needs lightdm for deterministic behaviour (see -release)
[20:29] <micahg> new version coming
[20:29] <knome> hehe, we're not even late!
[20:30] <mr_pouit> so much fun tonight
[20:31] <knome> mr_pouit, i owe you a beer or two, btw
[20:32] <mr_pouit> hehe
[20:34] <knome> mr_pouit, and if you come visit helsinki, we of course will accommodate you for free
[20:35] <knome> madnick, btw, we're going to be at stockholm on 07-04
[20:35] <madnick> :-O
[20:36] <madnick> Touristing? ;)
[20:36] <knome> yeah, traveling with 'the love boat'
[20:36] <knome> coming with wife+sister+sister's husband
[20:36] <madnick> :P
[20:40] <mr_pouit> upload in progress
[20:41] <mr_pouit> micahg: hopefully it will be accepted this time :P
[20:43] <knome> mr_pouit, great :)
[20:48] <micahg> accepted it was
[21:01] <knome> mr_pouit, is it uploaded? :P
[21:03] <mr_pouit> knome: you should have received a mail
[21:03] <mr_pouit> micahg: nice, thanks \o/
[21:04] <knome> mr_pouit, nope?
[21:04] <mr_pouit> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-March/013215.html
[21:04] <mr_pouit> the upload is from you ;>
[21:04] <knome> mr_pouit, ta
[21:05] <knome> but it's not in the ubuntu pkg by me :P
[21:05] <knome> that's what i was asking :P
[21:21] <knome> had got the message 15mins to 21UTC
[21:21] <knome> no idea why it didn't appear in TB before than recently
[22:05] <knome> thanks everybody for working hard to get everything in beta 2. now let's try to test it well! :)
[22:05]  * knome is off until (at least) afternoon tomorrow, see you later
[22:08] <Pjotr> micahg: thanks for the quick repair of gdebi
[22:15] <Pjotr> @all: there's another issue I'd like to discuss with you all
[22:15] <meetingology> Pjotr: Error: "all:" is not a valid command.
[22:15] <Pjotr> Upstream (Xfce) won't repackage when there's no new application code. Even though there are new translations.
[22:16] <Pjotr> There seems to be a way to get the new translations for those packages in Xubuntu after all: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Universe_Translations_in_LP
[22:16] <Pjotr> As you can see, I've added a couple of essential Xfce packages that are mostly part of the Goodies and won't be repackaged ever.
[22:16] <Pjotr> Can you help getting the translations for these packages in Launchpad, in time for Xubuntu 12.04? For Dutch, they are vastly improved upon the current ones, and I would really like to have them in Precise.
[22:42] <leo-unglaub> hi