[00:05] <LINKSWORD2> Is it safe for me to upgrade to the new Amarok that's in Kubuntu 12.03?
[00:06] <LINKSWORD2> !Lucid
[00:15] <LINKSWORD2> What are the system requirements to install Kubuntu 11.10 or 12.03 Beta?
[00:15] <LINKSWORD2> !11.10
[00:17] <szal> there is no such thing as 12.03
[00:17] <szal> !precise | LINKSWORD2
[00:17] <szal> mind the 2nd sentence
[00:18] <LINKSWORD2> I've been told that 12.03 is the designation for 12.04 as a beta, before the official release.
[00:18] <LINKSWORD2> If not, then what are the system requirements for 12.04?
[00:18] <szal> by whom?
[00:19] <LINKSWORD2> I don't remember. It was last night. Late.
[00:22] <LINKSWORD2> Either way, I would like to know the system requirements for running 11.10, or even 12's Beta.
[00:31] <LINKSWORD2> Ugh.... I haven't been on in so long really, that I don't even remember how to upgrade...
[00:31] <LINKSWORD2> !upgrade
[00:37] <LINKSWORD2> OK guys, wake up! I'm attempting to check for software updates on Lucid, and the window is coming back blank.
[00:37] <LINKSWORD2> !Lucid upgrade
[00:39] <LINKSWORD2> HEY! HELP
[00:40] <szal> what window?
[00:40] <LINKSWORD2> The software update window in KPackageKit
[00:40] <szal> PackageKit.. *urgh*
[00:41] <LINKSWORD2> Well, excuse me for having a busy life... >.>
[00:41] <szal> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:41] <LINKSWORD2> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:42] <szal> then there are no updates (unless your machine is misconfigured and doesn't get current package lists, which would be indicated by 'apt-get update' throwing errors)
[00:42] <emmanuel_> some body speak spanish
[00:43] <szal> !es | emmanuel_
[00:44] <LINKSWORD2> There we go. KPackageKit was configured to only look for LTS's. Changed it. Upgrading.
[00:44] <excognac> wow, wine is amazing. as chaotic as windows err or the software is
[00:45] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[00:45] <LINKSWORD2> Need to exit. Bye.
[00:45] <excognac> bye
[01:13] <c_smith> Hey, I'm trying to get my Ipod to work with Amarok, and I found a guide in which I need to edit a file to include A. the serial I got from lsusb, and a number called ModelNumStr which I also get from lsusb, but I see two similar numbers in the ID, and need help differentiating which would be the modelnumstr.
[01:19] <amason> c_smith: can you pastebin those examples
[01:19] <amason> not that i have an ipod but it might be able to help
[01:21] <c_smith> the only one is the 2 part code, 05ac:1265, and the  file only allows for 4 of those numbers, I need to know which is the model number per se.
[01:21] <c_smith> in lsusb, those numbers are listed under ID.
[01:22] <c_smith> those numbers seem to be pretty universal for USB devices.
[01:22] <c_smith> albeit different, my android tablet has something like that.
[01:25] <amason> erm udevinfo might be able to give you the model number
[01:25] <amason> or lsusb -v
[01:26] <c_smith> kk
[01:26] <c_smith> not sure how to access udevinfo, is it a file?
[01:29] <c_smith> after googling udevinfo, looks like Ubuntu uses udevadm.
[01:30] <amason> that's right, usbadm info
[01:30] <amason> but yeh lsusb  should be fine
[01:31] <c_smith> kk
[01:32] <chuy> hi all which folders should I copy to skel,for keep my kde4 config, for new users
[01:34] <c_smith> amason, after looking at udevadm, I was able to find the number, thanks. :)
[01:35] <chuy> any help o clue i really apreciate
[03:11] <c_smith> how do I connect to a smb share on Kubuntu Oneiric Ocelot?
[03:14] <c_smith> nvm, figured it out.
[03:17] <jalcine_> :)
[03:34] <dj_segfault> Hey. I just tried kubuntu 11.04 from live CD (because I can't stand Unity/Gnome 2).  I was very impressed.  How different in look and feel is the new version coming out next month?
[03:35] <bazhang> dj_segfault, the latest is 11.10
[03:36] <bazhang> dj_segfault, you should try a daily to see
[03:36] <dj_segfault> Yup.  I found that out after I burned the 11.04 disk ;)
[03:38] <dj_segfault> I'll look on the website for the dailies.  I just wanted to know if the look and feel was significantly different.
[03:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 should have a link
[03:41] <bazhang> or the /topic here
[03:41] <bazhang> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu
[03:47] <jalcine> Just placed a order on http://gearwear.spreadshirt.com/kde-magic-A6572380
[03:47] <jalcine> Why isn't this site advertised more often?
[03:50] <bazhang> jalcine, is this related to kubuntu support?
[03:50] <jalcine> *wrong channel*
[03:50] <jalcine> sorry bazhang
[05:18] <opposablethumb> oppos
[10:26] <ralf_> hi, i've got a question
[10:27] <ralf_> i use text to speech a lot for system notifications and such
[10:27] <ralf_> the thing is I have installed some third party voices (Cepstral) and I would like to use those instead of espeak
[10:28] <ralf_> so I want to add a talker but I can't figure out the dialog
[10:28] <ralf_> and the documentation i find seems to describe a different dialog
[10:28] <ralf_> any help?
[10:31] <Peace-> ralf_: ask to the 3 party developer
[11:21] <DrTeeth> z
[11:26] <Highflyer> How to change default desktop environment? Just installed kde and choose it as default de. Now it's complicate for other users to log in their sessions. They can do it only through my session. Please help!
[11:29] <Highflyer> Anyone?
[11:29] <Highflyer> I use 11.10 Oneiric
[11:33] <Riddell> Highflyer|: that's a setting of your login manager
[11:34] <Highflyer|> How to change it?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:37] <monkeyjuice> morning
[11:38] <BluesKaj> 'morning monkeyjuice
[11:40] <BluesKaj> oh It's you , the dog rudy's pal
[11:40] <monkeyjuice> yep
[14:20] <Highflyer> How to change default desktop environment? Just installed kde and choose it as default de. Now it's complicate for other users to log in their sessions. They can do it only through my session. Please help!
[14:20] <Highflyer> I use 11.10 Oneiric
[14:23] <Highflyer> Anyone?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  other users need to make kde default as well
[14:32] <Highflyer> Tnx but how? Terminal or...?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  not sure , I have no experience with that ...I'll try to find an anwer ASAP
[14:34] <Highflyer> Thanks man!
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  you could ask in #kde ...I already asked , but not receiving any answers
[14:38] <genii-around> Highflyer: Usually you would select which de to load from the window manager logon.
[14:41] <BluesKaj> genii-around,  I think he wants an automatic selection at login
[14:42] <Highflyer> I know but theres no option for other users to log in. they need to log in to my account, than change user...
[14:42] <BluesKaj> genii-around, tell the other users to install kubuntu-desktop ?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  they should have the choice of their own login
[14:45] <BluesKaj> as other users
[14:45] <Highflyer> That would be two more kde installation on one PC. Sure?
[14:47] <Highflyer> I now, but I have kubuntu log in screen with just my name
[14:47] <BluesKaj> not sure at all ...do the other users ale=ways have to use your login
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:48] <Highflyer> Since I installed kubuntu, yes
[14:48] <BluesKaj> you can add other users in system settings>user management
[14:49] <Highflyer> My log in, than they can do change user
[14:50] <Highflyer> To add them again, now in kubuntu?
[14:50] <Highflyer> I'll try
[14:51] <BluesKaj> look in user management to see if they are still there
[14:51] <Highflyer> They are just in gnome
[14:51] <Highflyer> I'll add them in kubuntu
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Highflyer,  right
[14:52] <Highflyer> I think that solution could do the job
[14:52] <Highflyer> Tnx
[15:01] <iskendar> How do I get bash scripts to launch from the KDE menu with all the environment variables set correctly?
[15:02] <iskendar> I run the script from a terminal, no problem
[15:02] <iskendar> I run it from the menu, or by clicking in a folder view or in dolphin, and it lacks the correct paths
[15:05] <iskendar> putting '/bin/bash /home/me/.bashrc; /home/me/myscript" in the 'Command' field of the KDE Menu Editor doesn't do it either
[15:07] <genii-around> iskendar: I think it would be /bin/bash --rcfile /home/me/.bashrc /home/me/myscript
[15:14] <iskendar> yeah, I thought that too, but it doesn't work
[15:15] <iskendar> the only thing working is basically dumping all of the needed environment variables into the launch scripts themselves
[15:16] <genii-around> iskendar: Have you tried under the Advanced tab in the menu editor to check off Run in Terminal ?
[15:19] <iskendar> yup, did it both ways
[15:20] <genii-around> odd
[15:21] <BluesKaj> iskendar,  what about startup&shutdown , add script ...I have to ask the obvious
[15:24] <iskendar> logout I tried, an actual reboot not, but I don't see how that would work, since this is all user stuff
[15:26] <genii-around> iskendar: Was your bashrc file edited?
[15:28] <genii-around> ( if so you might need to do: source /home/me/.bashrc to have the changes take effect )
[15:36] <iskendar> yes, added some variables, nothing more
[16:00] <Promethes> is there any cd ripper for kubuntu other than K3B and Dolphin?
[16:00] <Promethes> something like sound juicer for gnome?
[16:01] <Promethes> k3b is terrible when i need to modify track names and album properties and Dolphin is painfully slow
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Promethes,  cdrecord , if you don't mind the command line
[16:06] <genii-around> !info audex
[16:08] <Promethes> genii-around: thanx
[16:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, genii-around , thanks ..didn't know about audex :)
[17:05] <cire> Hi, I get the following error when launching amarok: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[17:05] <cire> I cannot see the amarok window, but the process is running
[17:06] <BluesKaj> cire,  look in the system tray and click on the amarok icon
[17:07] <cire> BluesKaj: I would, but there is none
[17:07] <cire> I just recognized that every kde app gives me that error
[17:07] <cire> but they do show up
[17:07] <cire> dbus thing seems to be a general problem, amarok a special one
[17:10] <BluesKaj> cire , so haow do you close amarok ?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> how
[17:10] <cire> kill
[17:10] <cire> BluesKaj: I am not a newbie
[17:11] <cire> oh, I should mention that I am using precise
[17:11] <cire> could be a beta issue
[17:11] <BluesKaj> did you try running from the terminal and checking for launch errors?
[17:11] <cire> BluesKaj: this gives me the posted error
[17:12] <cire> nothing else
[17:12] <cire> i just did a dist-upgrade, I will try reloading kde
[17:16] <cire> did not help
[17:16] <cire> still dbus error, and amarok not launching
[17:16] <BluesKaj> cire,  did you use dbus-launch ?
[17:16] <cire> no
[17:17] <cire> not manually, but dbus-launch is started
[17:17] <cire> /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[17:18] <BluesKaj> yeah , I get the same error with audex , but it launches anyway ( QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.)
[17:19] <BluesKaj> try just dbus-launch amarok , without /usr/bin path
[17:20] <cire> okay
[17:20] <cire> this works?!
[17:20] <cire> what si wrong?
[17:21] <BluesKaj> amarok's default path isn't /usr/bin maybe ...I don't use amarok myself
[17:22] <cire> BluesKaj: this would mean, dbus-path for all kde apps is set wrong somehow
[17:22] <sithlord48> amarok shows in /usr/bin on my system
[17:22] <DarthFrog> Yes, it's in /usr/bin.
[17:22] <cire> BluesKaj: As I understood, amarok doesn't find dbus, right?
[17:25] <cire> I have X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch:DBUSLAUNCH=/usr/bin/dbus-launch
[17:25] <cire> which is the correct path
[17:28] <genii-around> cire: Did it work previous to yesterday?
[17:28] <cire> no
[17:28] <cire> that means
[17:28] <cire> don't know
[17:28] <cire> yesterday I am sure it did not
[17:28] <FloodBotK1> cire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <genii-around> cire: Which Kubuntu version?
[17:29] <cire> precise
[17:29] <genii-around> cire: There was a major update to libdbus yesterday on 12.04
[17:30] <cire> ok. This may be the problem.
[17:31] <cire> I won't complain, using pre-releases always gives that kind of things ;) (used aptosid and debian testing&unstable before) :)
[17:33] <genii-around> cire: Also, the #ubuntu+1 channel doubles as the #kubuntu+1 channel ( for 12.04 issues, until it hits release )
[17:33] <cire> genii-around: thanks for that hint!
[18:43] <superfly> Upgraded to precise, now I'm left with no KDE and apparently broken packages
[18:43] <superfly> (on my phone atm)
[18:43] <superfly> Any pointers to figuring out what is broken?
[18:44] <genii-around> superfly: Please ask in #ubuntu+1 which is for 12.04
[18:44] <superfly> Grr... I was just directed here
[18:45]  * superfly goes to find help elsewhere
[21:00] <Guest6415> test
[21:00] <Guest6415> ping
[21:35] <highflyer> Guys, need a help. I want to reinstall kubuntu. How to do that? Thanks!
[21:35] <highflyer> oneiric 11.10
[21:36] <highflyer> Anyone?
[22:08] <markus_> Insert the CD and reboot?
[22:25] <Musaab> hey there everyone, does anyone how to make so i have a separate taskbar for each workspace?
[22:34] <Musaab> nevermind...found it
[23:00] <Jarli> How do I turn on intergrated mouse with VM VirtualBox windows 7 64 bit?
[23:39] <Minitux90> bonsoir tout le monde
[23:43] <Whiskey`Wonka> blarg
[23:43] <Whiskey`Wonka> is muon broken in 12.04??
[23:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> where does network-manager store its network configs? id like to move my existing ones from a old install to a new install
[23:48] <Jarli> Hi all