| JoseeAntonioR | StepNjump, txwikinger: ping? I need someone from the project. | 01:34 |
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| pleia2 | none of the people who were originally involved are here anymore :( | 01:36 |
| pleia2 | we'd be starting from where we left off on the wiki and ubuntu-owl.org | 01:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I'd like to revive the team, as materials can be used for actual school classez | 01:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | classes* | 01:37 |
| pleia2 | so on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning you'd want to look under "Materials" | 01:39 |
| pleia2 | er "Course Material Writing" | 01:39 |
| pleia2 | click on the icon with the hat :) | 01:39 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Materials | 01:39 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Ok :) | 01:42 |
| pleia2 | http://doctormo.org/2009/07/15/ubuntu-system-admin-class-command-line-basics/ is an example of a class that doctormo wrote | 01:45 |
| pleia2 | akgraner was also trying to work on some stuff, let me see if she updated the google doc | 01:46 |
| JoseeAntonioR | that's great | 01:46 |
| JoseeAntonioR | maybe I can catch her and talk about it | 01:47 |
| pleia2 | ah, she didn't end up updating the doc | 01:47 |
| pleia2 | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gNbpaBTkH2YHfLh2BW9ek30up6TrnANzWjCcRuvYR40/edit | 01:47 |
| pleia2 | it's a decent outline for some teaching she wanted to do though | 01:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | hmm, yes | 01:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | that can be used as a basic scheme to work on | 01:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | btw, this would be considered as official documentation? | 01:49 |
| pleia2 | the only "official" documentation is what is shipped with Ubuntu itself | 01:56 |
| pleia2 | even help.ubuntu.com/community/ is all "unofficial" | 01:56 |
| pleia2 | but it could be the default place people are sent when they want learning materials to teach in classes | 01:56 |
| JoseeAntonioR | sorry Lyz, could you please paste what you said before? My window closed :( | 01:59 |
| pleia2 | 18:56:00 < pleia2> the only "official" documentation is what is shipped with Ubuntu itself | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | 18:56:11 < pleia2> even help.ubuntu.com/community/ is all "unofficial" | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | 18:56:57 < pleia2> but it could be the default place people are sent when they want learning materials to teach in classes | 02:03 |
| JoseeAntonioR | yep | 02:07 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I think it's a good idea | 02:07 |
| JoseeAntonioR | from my side, count me in | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:09 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I'll try to help as much as I can | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | so we tried to write what we want from a basic course layout: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/CourseLayout | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | but that's subject to change and discussion | 02:10 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I see | 02:10 |
| JoseeAntonioR | screenshots should be also attached when possible | 02:10 |
| JoseeAntonioR | to make this easier | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | yeah, those are under "Other Resources' | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | (unless they are embedded in the document, which is ok) | 02:11 |
| JoseeAntonioR | having a step-to-step with pictures guide will be perfect | 02:12 |
| JoseeAntonioR | are there any classes written? | 02:12 |
| JoseeAntonioR | apart from the DoctorMO's one | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | he wrote a few, they are all linked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/SystemAdminTopics | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | Local Computer, Networking, Package Management, etc | 02:14 |
| JoseeAntonioR | hmm, ok | 02:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I think we can start with Ubuntu Installation | 02:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | that's the start point | 02:16 |
| pleia2 | great :) | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | I think it makes sense for us to write the classes targeting the LTS versions, so you'll want to do it with 12.04 | 02:18 |
| JoseeAntonioR | yep | 02:18 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I'll wait until the final release comes out | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | it shouldn't change too much from now to then, maybe hold off on screenshots :) but you can write the outline and start with the basics | 02:19 |
| pleia2 | also, all the community docs are licensed CC-BY-SA, so as long as we say "we took this portion from help.ubuntu.com/community/whatever" we can copy docs | 02:20 |
| pleia2 | we don't want to be rewriting everything | 02:20 |
| JoseeAntonioR | haha, yep | 02:20 |
| JoseeAntonioR | but sometimes help.ubuntu.com is outdated | 02:20 |
| pleia2 | yep | 02:20 |
| pleia2 | for help.ubuntu.com/community/ we also want to contribute back | 02:21 |
| pleia2 | so if something is outdated and we update it for ours, we should update there too :) | 02:21 |
| pleia2 | help.ubuntu.com itself (not /community) is harder since those are the official docs and there is an official procedure for editing them | 02:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | then, I can investigate about how to do it and mange to update it | 02:23 |
| JoseeAntonioR | do you need to be part of a team to update help.ubuntu.com? I can apply for it, if needed | 02:25 |
| pleia2 | it's the ubuntu-docs team, I don't know what they're using for doc stuff these days | 02:25 |
| pleia2 | help.ubuntu.com/community/ is just a wiki, so anyone can edit it | 02:25 |
| pleia2 | http://jeremy.bicha.net/2012/03/22/ubuntu-docs-a-call-for-help/ is worth a read | 02:26 |
| JoseeAntonioR | i'll read it right now | 02:27 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I told you because in the 'official' documentation I only found how to install from the alternate CD | 02:28 |
| JoseeAntonioR | maybe we can work along with the doc team to merge ideas | 02:28 |
| pleia2 | they have a very tight release schedule because they need to coordinate with translators *before* release | 02:29 |
| pleia2 | I'd love to see us collaborate, but it's a lot of work :) | 02:29 |
| JoseeAntonioR | it is, so, for our actual plans we have to re-start the project, from what was left, using help.ubuntu.com/community | 02:32 |
| JoseeAntonioR | and update the community pages when needed, if possible | 02:32 |
| JoseeAntonioR | right? | 02:32 |
| pleia2 | pretty much :) | 02:34 |
| pleia2 | if you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/CourseLayout I see the "Overview" section to be what we pull from /community docs | 02:34 |
| pleia2 | we'll probably have to write Demonstration and Practical ourselves, based on that documentation | 02:34 |
| JoseeAntonioR | yep | 02:35 |
| JoseeAntonioR | wait a sec, I think I've got an idea | 02:35 |
| JoseeAntonioR | what about if we contact the ubuntu manual team when we've got lots of articles | 02:37 |
| pleia2 | to share our docs with them? | 02:38 |
| pleia2 | ours are licensed CC-BY-SA as well, so they're welcome to anything of course | 02:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | great | 02:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I think this can turn into a big idea if we're successful | 02:38 |
| pleia2 | ok, heading off for the evening, thanks for your help :) | 02:54 |
| JoseeAntonioR | thanks to you! see you! | 02:55 |
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