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| vibhav | Can anybody tell me whether LP #871739 is worth a sync? | 02:36 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 871739 in sundials (Ubuntu) "Static linked libraries missing" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871739 | 02:36 |
| ajmitch | vibhav: are you sure that applies to the version in precise? | 02:38 |
| vibhav | lemme see that | 02:39 |
| vibhav | ajmitch: Yes, The bug can be reproduced in precise | 02:49 |
| ajmitch | vibhav: given that precise has 2.4.0-5, which had the fix to bring back static libraries (-6 was just a rebuild), syncing wouldn't gain much | 02:53 |
| vibhav | fine, then ill develop a patch | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | how'd you check it? I just took a look at the package on my local mirror, it seems to have the .a files | 02:57 |
| vibhav | I installed it on my VM | 02:58 |
| vibhav | And the .a files were not present | 02:58 |
| vibhav | ajmitch: My bad | 02:59 |
| vibhav | I found em | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | ok | 03:00 |
| vibhav | So, should I mark this bug as "Fix Released" ? | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | fwiw, you can use dpkg-deb -c /path/to/package.deb to list the contents, it's a little quicker than installing | 03:00 |
| vibhav | thanks | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | yes, it looks to be fixed so mark it as that | 03:00 |
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| vibhav | IS it safe to apply options that speed up building in pbuilder? | 05:47 |
| RAOF | vibhav: That depends; do they work? :) | 05:52 |
| vibhav | RAOF: They work | 05:59 |
| vibhav | Though they might mess up something | 05:59 |
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| geser | vibhav: which options do you want to apply? | 07:18 |
| vibhav | geser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto , look at the "Speeding up build-dependencies calculation" and "Speeding up the package installation" | 07:27 |
| RAOF | vibhav: They're safe. | 07:29 |
| geser | vibhav: I use those for a long time and didn't have any issues with them (as long as the tmpfs is large enough to build the package :) ) | 07:29 |
| vibhav | thanks RAOF geser | 07:29 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:47 |
| Tribaal | Hi folks, I'm currently trying to fix a small packaging bug on opensc, and my launchpad branch is up for review - would anybody have a minute to spare to tell me if my process is correct (it's my very first time fixing something in Ubuntu)? | 08:10 |
| vibhav | Do I need to change the "other" non-debian changelog while fixing a bug? | 08:18 |
| arand | vibhav: There should be no need to patch the upstream changelog, if that's what you're asking, make sure to forward the patch upstream as well. | 09:05 |
| Tribaal | so, I put a packaging fix branch for review in precise - is there anything else I should do? Like ping somebody or tag it with something? | 09:07 |
| tumbleweed | Tribaal: propose a merge | 09:08 |
| Tribaal | tumbleweed, that's done | 09:08 |
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| vibhav | How does one join The Sponsors Team? | 11:33 |
| Laney | vibhav: by being an Ubuntu Developer and then asking an admin nicely | 11:37 |
| Tribaal | Laney, what/when should one request sponsorship? I submitted a branch for review a few hours ago - is that all I need to do? Is that what sponsorship is for? | 12:23 |
| Laney | Tribaal: you should check it appears on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ and if so someone will look at it in due course | 12:23 |
| Tribaal | Laney, it does, and thanks for the clarification! | 12:24 |
| Laney | np | 12:24 |
| Tribaal | Laney, is this page basically the "log of stuff to merge from non-ubuntu members"? | 12:25 |
| Laney | it's stuff which people would like uploaded but can't do themselves | 12:27 |
| Tribaal | Laney, makes sense, thanks again. | 12:27 |
| Tribaal | Laney, last question (promise :) ): how does one become a motu? Not that I intend to, but I'm just curious | 12:28 |
| Laney | Tribaal: Keep contributing fixes and soon enough someone will tell you to apply (to the Developer Membership Board) | 12:29 |
| Tribaal | Laney, oh, it's a pull process, not a push :) Interesting. Thanks again for your help | 12:29 |
| Laney | well, it can be either actually | 12:29 |
| Tribaal | how much is considered "enough" contribution? | 12:30 |
| Laney | but a good way to know when to apply is when people assume you already are MOTU, or tell you to hurry up and apply already | 12:30 |
| Tribaal | haha | 12:30 |
| Tribaal | ok | 12:30 |
| Laney | there's no fixed "enough", but less than six months would be unusual | 12:31 |
| Tribaal | Laney, makes sense | 12:31 |
| ajmitch | unless you got in early on, when 6 weeks was a long time ;) | 12:31 |
| * ajmitch wants to rant about libraries that claim to be 'open source' but really aren't free to use | 12:32 | |
| Tribaal | so just for my understanding - being an "ubuntu developer" is being allowed to push to universe or "more"? | 12:32 |
| Tribaal | the titles are confusing :) | 12:32 |
| ajmitch | pretty much, it implies you have some upload privileges, whether to a limited set of packages or to universe | 12:32 |
| Tribaal | ahhh | 12:33 |
| Tribaal | and so a motu has upload privileges to "universe" while an ubuntu developer might have provileges to only a few packages? | 12:33 |
| Laney | right | 12:33 |
| Tribaal | gotcha | 12:34 |
| Laney | ubuntu developer is the umbrella group | 12:34 |
| Tribaal | got it | 12:34 |
| Tribaal | thanks for the clarification | 12:34 |
| dholbach | Tribaal, please keep asking questions :) | 12:42 |
| Tribaal | sure, but I don't want to be the annoying newbie (tm) today (it's Friday, and I assume most people are hungover or tired or both) | 12:43 |
| bregma | the hangover doesn't start until tomorrow | 12:44 |
| Tribaal | oh? good | 12:44 |
| dholbach | bregma, do you have plans for the WE already? :) | 12:45 |
| Tribaal | then: I fixed a packaging problem (a one liner), how do I engage debian about it? Should I do it myself? is it automated? | 12:45 |
| tumbleweed | it's not automated | 12:45 |
| Tribaal | do people expect me to fix it as upstream as possible? | 12:45 |
| Tribaal | and let it "ripple down" into ubuntu when the next debian refresh comes? | 12:45 |
| dholbach | Tribaal, these are all great questions | 12:45 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Bugs#Using_submittodebian_to_forward_patches_to_Debian | 12:45 |
| dholbach | ^ explains how to use a nice tool to submit fixes to Debian | 12:46 |
| tumbleweed | put it this way, after you make a package in Ubuntu differ from Debian, you are responsible with keeping it up to date | 12:46 |
| tumbleweed | (the changes from Debian have to be synced into it by hand) | 12:46 |
| tumbleweed | so it's in your interest to get it as upstream as possible | 12:46 |
| Tribaal | ok, easy enough for my one liner, but I can see how that can become a problem :) | 12:46 |
| dholbach | it's also a matter of timeliness - if we are a few days away from release and have an urgent problem to fix or find that upstream or debian won't take an obvious fix for a longer period of time, it's totally fine to get it into Ubuntu - even if it creates delta | 12:46 |
| tumbleweed | we recommend making non-urgent changes in Debian, and just syncing them to Ubuntu | 12:47 |
| tumbleweed | but that's easier when you know the debian maintainer of that package or one of its uploaders... | 12:47 |
| Tribaal | now the killer question: what defines "urgent"? | 12:47 |
| tumbleweed | urgent enough for you to want to do it in Ubuntu first :) | 12:47 |
| Tribaal | haha | 12:47 |
| dholbach | you'll get a sense of it with a bit of experience - and you can always ask | 12:48 |
| tumbleweed | and different people have different views on this | 12:48 |
| Tribaal | so, shameless self-promotion and poll: what do you think about this: urgent or not? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opensc/+bug/872019 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 872019 in opensc (Ubuntu) "pkcs15 profiles not packaged, pkcs15-init not functional" [Undecided,In progress] | 12:49 |
| tumbleweed | that package is already modified in Ubuntu | 12:50 |
| Tribaal | indeed | 12:50 |
| tumbleweed | so go for it | 12:50 |
| Tribaal | so basically that means "wait for a sponsor to pick up your patch and merge it", or is there another step in the process? | 12:50 |
| tumbleweed | no, that's abotu it | 12:51 |
| Tribaal | alright | 12:51 |
| Tribaal | sweet | 12:51 |
| tumbleweed | do push it upstream too, if applicable to Debian | 12:51 |
| Tribaal | not sure it is, for the time being | 12:52 |
| Tribaal | I need to check | 12:52 |
| Tribaal | oh it's already fixed in debian :) | 12:54 |
| Tribaal | sweet | 12:54 |
| Laney | in that case you should investigate taking their fix instead of doing an ubuntu-specific one | 12:55 |
| Tribaal | hum ok | 12:55 |
| Laney | makes for less maintenance in the long term | 12:55 |
| Laney | :-) | 12:55 |
| Laney | depends on what their fix is, of course | 12:56 |
| Tribaal | even if the diff will be null after ubuntu pulls the latest debian version? | 12:56 |
| Laney | makes for less changes to review at that time | 12:56 |
| Tribaal | yeah, so that is basically already the case | 12:56 |
| Tribaal | I reimplemented their exact solution (it's a one liner...) | 12:57 |
| Laney | got to go to a seminar, sorry | 12:57 |
| Tribaal | sure thing | 12:57 |
| Tribaal | nice talking to you Laney | 12:57 |
| tumbleweed | if upullin gin the latest debian version won't bring new features, and will fix bugs, then that's by far the best solution | 12:58 |
| tumbleweed | (we're in feature freeze, so new features require release-team approval) | 12:58 |
| Tribaal | there are new features in the debian package (new upstream version) | 12:59 |
| Tribaal | this specific fix is however purley a packaging issue (the debian/opensc.install file was missing an entry, basically) | 13:00 |
| Tribaal | quite the trivial diff | 13:00 |
| tumbleweed | Tribaal: have you seen bug 935348? | 13:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 935348 in opensc (Ubuntu Precise) "opensc version 0.12.1-1ubuntu2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935348 | 13:01 |
| Tribaal | FTBFS - fails to build from source? | 13:02 |
| tumbleweed | correct | 13:02 |
| Tribaal | whow | 13:02 |
| Tribaal | how come I can build it locally? | 13:03 |
| tumbleweed | good question :) | 13:03 |
| Tribaal | ah | 13:03 |
| * tumbleweed tries a local build | 13:03 | |
| Tribaal | precise | 13:03 |
| Tribaal | this machine is oneiric | 13:03 |
| * Tribaal newbie | 13:03 | |
| tumbleweed | ah. I recommend setting up a pbuilder / sbuild for test-building | 13:03 |
| Tribaal | oh, I thought I had that | 13:03 |
| Tribaal | is that what bzr bd uses? | 13:04 |
| tumbleweed | also, running the development release is a good idea if you want to find problems :P | 13:04 |
| Tribaal | indeed, but I don't want to find too many of them at once :P | 13:04 |
| tumbleweed | Tribaal: no, bzr bd just builds on your machine | 13:04 |
| Tribaal | oh ok | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | tumbleweed makes it sound as if there were no probs in non dev images | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:05 |
| Tribaal | :) | 13:05 |
| tumbleweed | ogra_: I generally find dev releases more stable, yes :) | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | haha | 13:05 |
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| Tribaal | well I will have to switch relatively soon, I'm the last guy in my team not using Precise | 13:06 |
| Tribaal | will you guys be at UDS? | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | sure | 13:07 |
| * tumbleweed must still book flights | 13:07 | |
| Tribaal | cool | 13:07 |
| Tribaal | so is universe feature frozen as well? | 13:10 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: you'd better, you don't have long :) | 13:11 |
| ajmitch | Tribaal: yes, feature freeze applies to universe as well | 13:12 |
| Tribaal | the latest debian package would fix the build for that package :) | 13:13 |
| ajmitch | you can get freeze exceptions | 13:13 |
| tumbleweed | there are a few reverse dependencies of opensc. If they'll work with the new version, we can probably sync it | 13:13 |
| ajmitch | also the freeze just applies to new features, new bugfix releases can be uploaded | 13:13 |
| Tribaal | oh ok | 13:13 |
| hrw | freeze... I forgot lesson from ogra - 'upload, nevermind how broken. fixes are accepted later' :D | 13:21 |
| ajmitch | so this is what ogra_ is teaching people these days? :) | 13:22 |
| hrw | ajmitch: I think he used lighter description ;) | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | lol | 13:32 |
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| lenios | hi there | 14:07 |
| lenios | does anybody know if mysql-workbench-gpl will be available for precise? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/53062 | 14:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 53062 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] mysql workbench package request" [Wishlist,In progress] | 14:07 |
| Adri2000 | lenios: no, unless someone asks for a FeatureFreeze exception and syncs it from debian | 14:14 |
| lenios | then shouldn't the package be removed? | 14:14 |
| Adri2000 | removed from where? | 14:14 |
| lenios | because mysql-workbench-gpl:i386 is available, but broken because it's asking for non existing dependencies | 14:15 |
| lenios | it works when linking libzip2 to libzip1 though | 14:16 |
| Adri2000 | where do you see this package available? I don't see it in ubuntu | 14:16 |
| Adri2000 | there is mysql-workbench in debian though | 14:16 |
| lenios | oops, my bad, i'm talking about local mirror | 14:19 |
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| lazka | What should I do regarding daily build in a PPA with source format 3.0? I used to append ~revision to the version, but now the orig.tar.gz doesn't contain that and lauchpad rejects the upload because a orig.tar.gz with that name is already there | 15:03 |
| lazka | Do I need to add the revision to the main version, giving me a new orig for each upload? | 15:04 |
| geser | IIRC recipes only work with "3.0 (native)" and not "3.0 (quilt)", but probably better ask in #launchpad | 15:20 |
| lazka | geser, ok, thanks | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | geser: apparently quilt is supported these days, if upstream releases are appropriately tagged | 15:36 |
| geser | oh, that news for me, but I don't know much about recipes | 15:36 |
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| * tumbleweed hasn't played with that feature | 15:38 | |
| phiphi | hello. Who's responsible for packaging the nvidia drivers? | 16:25 |
| phiphi | Nvidia Driver uninstall is incomplete. Open Source 3D Driver Nouveau remains blacklisted. bug 958848 | 16:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 958848 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nouveau remains blacklisted after uninstall of nvidia drivers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958848 | 16:25 |
| phiphi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/958848 | 16:25 |
| tumbleweed | phiphi: tseliot | 16:39 |
| phiphi | tumbleweed: thank you, subscribed him to the bug. | 16:41 |
| phiphi | Can somebody confirm the bug? Is my view right, that this is a simple bug? | 16:42 |
| tumbleweed | phiphi: he's presumably already subscribed to all nvidia driver bugs | 16:43 |
| tumbleweed | phiphi: if you haven't purged the package, it's configuration files will remain | 16:44 |
| phiphi | its not a config its the blacklisting of the opensource driver that remains. It gets blacklisted twice and one is removed. | 16:45 |
| tumbleweed | ah | 16:45 |
| tumbleweed | the best way to get a bug noticed is to provide a patch | 16:46 |
| phiphi | Of course. But I'm a packager. | 16:48 |
| phiphi | Can you guide me to the packaging recipe or whatever, perhaps I can find the bug | 16:48 |
| phiphi | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/nvidia-graphics-drivers/precise/view/head:/debian/nvidia-current.prerm | 16:51 |
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| hakermania | Hi there! I've got a ready backport for Wallch, version 3.0 actually. I was (quite) recently told to take a freeze exception, any change, or anything that I have to keep in mind? | 17:24 |
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| sivapvarma | how to make the screen shot app in ubuntu to make select area for grab as default option | 17:58 |
| sivapvarma | that will save me a mouse click each time | 17:58 |
| hakermania | sivapvarma, open a terminal, go to /usr/share/applications | 18:00 |
| sivapvarma | ok | 18:00 |
| sivapvarma | then | 18:00 |
| hakermania | nano gnome-screenshot.desktop | 18:00 |
| hakermania | and in Exec field | 18:01 |
| hakermania | instead of gnome-screenshot --interactive | 18:01 |
| hakermania | place gnome-screenshot -a | 18:01 |
| hakermania | save with Ctrl+O and then Ctrl+X | 18:01 |
| hakermania | now, every time you click on the screenshot icon you will be asked to select an area | 18:01 |
| hakermania | You can also bind the PrtSc button for this with a little trick, if you're interested... Not very difficult... | 18:02 |
| hakermania | sivapvarma, you have to be root to edit gnome-screenshot.desktop, of course | 18:03 |
| hakermania | (sudo nano gnome-screenshot.desktop) | 18:03 |
| sivapvarma | it seems i like sudo vim gnome-screenshot.desktop :-) | 18:04 |
| hakermania | ok, did you succeed ? | 18:04 |
| sivapvarma | hakermania: yeah thanks its working | 18:06 |
| sivapvarma | what about the dirty hack :-) | 18:06 |
| hakermania | ok, about the 'dirty' hack now, open a terminal and do sudo mkdir /screenshot_app | 18:07 |
| sivapvarma | ok before I do what you say | 18:07 |
| hakermania | ? | 18:07 |
| sivapvarma | let me tell you what i tried before | 18:07 |
| hakermania | no, let me finish | 18:07 |
| sivapvarma | I have created a custom shortcut in keyboard application | 18:08 |
| hakermania | then do sudo mv /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver /screenshot_app/ | 18:08 |
| sivapvarma | ctrl + print scrn -> gnome-screenshot -a | 18:08 |
| hakermania | gnome-screenshot* | 18:09 |
| sivapvarma | it worked for two to three times but did not work later on | 18:09 |
| hakermania | Ok, sivapvarma, let me tell you know | 18:09 |
| hakermania | Let me start again | 18:09 |
| sivapvarma | ok | 18:09 |
| hakermania | 1) sudo mkdir /screenshot_app | 18:09 |
| sivapvarma | you mean from home folder | 18:09 |
| hakermania | 2) sudo mv /usr/bin/gnome-screenshot /screenshot_app | 18:09 |
| hakermania | from wherever, number (1) will do the same thing, regardless where you run it | 18:10 |
| hakermania | it will create a directory in root ( / ) anmed screenshot_app | 18:10 |
| hakermania | named* | 18:10 |
| hakermania | if you do cd / | 18:10 |
| hakermania | and then ls | 18:10 |
| hakermania | you will see it | 18:10 |
| sivapvarma | ok | 18:10 |
| sivapvarma | done till now what next | 18:12 |
| hakermania | 3) sudo nano(or vim) /usr/bin/gnome-screenshot and place this inside: http://paste.ubuntu.com/896777/ | 18:13 |
| hakermania | 4) sudo chmod +x /sreenshot_app/gnome-screenshot | 18:13 |
| hakermania | 5) Done | 18:13 |
| hakermania | i'm a genius :P | 18:13 |
| hakermania | Oh, I got step 4 wrong, it is 4) sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/gnome-screenshot | 18:14 |
| PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 18:17 |
| hakermania | Hi Paolo... | 18:17 |
| hakermania | sivapvarma, just tried it on my machine and it works like a charm btw | 18:20 |
| sivapvarma | same here too thanks :-) | 18:20 |
| hakermania | np | 18:20 |
| sivapvarma | but where did i mess up while creating the keyboard shortcut | 18:20 |
| hakermania | I don't know, I never trusted those things... For example, now they have placed for minimize/maximize shortcuts in Beta 12.04 -> Windows Key+Down/Up arrow, but this also causes, because of the windows key button to open the Dash -_- | 18:22 |
| sivapvarma | ok can we share the screen with tranparent white so that we can clearly notice that screenshot app is running | 18:24 |
| sivapvarma | shade* | 18:24 |
| sivapvarma | now whenever i run screeshot I have to search for mouse pointer to make sure it is working | 18:25 |
| sivapvarma | also that feature is very intuitive and it should be there | 18:25 |
| sivapvarma | any ideas on how it can be done | 18:25 |
| sivapvarma | if you have to tried shutter for example it has such a feature when grabbing an area of the screen | 18:27 |
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| Ramiel | hi. What's a reasonable character for separating official package version from the patched one you're uploading to the ppa? | 19:37 |
| Ramiel | the patched version contains modifications not applied upstream or in the ubuntu version | 19:37 |
| Ramiel | it's supposed to be up-to-date with original package, but it's not a newer/early-access/nightly-build/whatever | 19:38 |
| hakermania | Ramiel, i feel you, i have same question... | 19:39 |
| Ramiel | I think tilde is not suitable as it won't supersede the version it's chnaging | 19:39 |
| Ramiel | hakermania: I'm sicerely thinking of changing the package names and make them conflict with original ones... | 19:40 |
| Ramiel | but it's more than one package and I don't know exactly where the patches become packaged into | 19:40 |
| astraljava | Ramiel: hakermania: Perhaps you're looking for this? https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage | 19:43 |
| Ramiel | astraljava: I alredy read that before but someone I unfortunately trusted told me I probably wanted tilde instead of dash | 19:44 |
| Ramiel | astraljava: a counter is a non-go, do you think it's ok 1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2ppa20120323? | 19:45 |
| Ramiel | also, how about 1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2.P20120323? | 19:46 |
| micahg | Ramiel: + is what you're looking for I think | 19:49 |
| micahg | ahead of the current version behind SRUs | 19:50 |
| Ramiel | SRUs? | 19:51 |
| Ramiel | service release updates? | 19:52 |
| broder | !sru | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 19:52 |
| * Ramiel thinks of using '+' | 19:56 | |
| ajmitch | micahg: currently re-merging phpldapadmin for security fixes, I suppose these also need to make it back to previous releases? :) | 19:58 |
| micahg | ajmitch: would be nice :) | 19:59 |
| micahg | ajmitch: I think jdstrand is on deck for community tasks next week | 19:59 |
| ajmitch | ok | 20:00 |
| * ajmitch will just try & work through a few on the rc bugs list today | 20:01 | |
| ajmitch | 955 files changed, 78554 insertions(+), 36532 deletions(-) | 20:05 |
| ajmitch | for flumotion... | 20:05 |
| * ajmitch wonders how he can phrase the FFe :) | 20:05 | |
| vorian | slight mod? :) | 20:07 |
| ajmitch | vorian: new version apparantly is needed to work with python 2.7, so I may be able to bribe someone | 20:08 |
| vorian | i hear beer works very well | 20:08 |
| ajmitch | that's what I'm afraid of | 20:09 |
| Ramiel | thanks all | 20:11 |
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| ajmitch | micahg: did you want me to upload the openclipart debdiff, given that I never restarted the test build? :) | 20:55 |
| micahg | ajmitch: I did and it finished, I added the bug, I just never finished checking if it needed an FFe :) | 20:56 |
| ajmitch | micahg: given that the source is there for 2.0, the only options would be revert to the old version or fix it? | 20:57 |
| micahg | ajmitch: ok, I"ll just upload then :), can wave the need for FFe later if need be | 20:58 |
| ajmitch | don't base it just on my arguments ;) | 20:58 |
| ajmitch | for me it was just a nice-to-have | 20:58 |
| * ajmitch just doesn't like seeing packages uploaded that FTBFS, it gets confusing for people grabbing the source | 20:59 | |
| micahg | yeah, it's a nightmare package to begin with as well (at least there's a bug filed and tagged appropriately) | 20:59 |
| ajmitch | I think I need a laptop with 16GB of RAM like you have | 21:00 |
| ajmitch | some of those images took awhile to process | 21:00 |
| micahg | ajmitch: Build needed 08:31:38, 5523908k disc space | 21:03 |
| ajmitch | hopefully the buildds are quiet | 21:03 |
| hakermania | Do i have chances to have a backport in ubuntu 12.04? | 21:04 |
| micahg | hakermania: I'm not sure if -backports is open yet | 21:05 |
| micahg | hakermania: wallch should be backportable, sure | 21:05 |
| hakermania | micahg, why wallch, specifically? | 21:05 |
| micahg | hakermania: oh, I thought that's what you were going to ask about ;) | 21:06 |
| hakermania | micahg, yes that's what I'm asking about, but initially you was like 'nah, backports are off for now', but then you were 'Wallch should be fine' :P | 21:06 |
| hakermania | was/were | 21:07 |
| micahg | hakermania: we discussed opening backports early, not sure if that ever happened | 21:07 |
| ajmitch | it required an LP change iirc | 21:08 |
| hakermania | micahg, do I need any special process or what's mentioned here is enough -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports? | 21:10 |
| hakermania | meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports | 21:11 |
| micahg | hakermania: that's fine, but 12.04 backports isn't open yet AFAIK | 21:11 |
| hakermania | micahg, not yet? But I was told to do so prior to beta 2, which comes in 6-7 days | 21:12 |
| micahg | hakermania: if you're updating the package in 12.04, you'll need a freeze exception at this point as backports isn't open or wait until Q and backport from there | 21:13 |
| hakermania | micahg, i'm not an expert or something :P What's 'Q'? I understood FFe though :P | 21:49 |
| micahg | hakermania: the letter after P, an entity in the Star Trek universe, a placeholder for the next Ubuntu release | 21:51 |
| micahg | *next release after precise | 21:52 |
| hakermania | micahg, nice one :P But I want it IN precise :O FFe? | 21:52 |
| hakermania | Afterall, untill Q wallch will have many changes | 21:56 |
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| hakermania | micahg, ! | 22:09 |
| micahg | !ffe| hakermania | 22:18 |
| ubottu | hakermania: Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process. | 22:18 |
| hakermania | micahg, I know what it is, the only way to get it in precise is FFe. I just need you to tell me that I'm right B-) | 22:19 |
| micahg | hakermania: well, -backports is part of precise and enabled by default | 22:19 |
| micahg | just with a lower pinning so they're not selected by default | 22:20 |
| hakermania | micahg, so, you mean that a new version of Wallch can be make it in Precise while Precise is out? Through Update manager or something? What do you suggest? | 22:21 |
| micahg | hakermania: the user has to explicitly choose to upgrade to the version in backports | 22:24 |
| hakermania | micahg, i see. How can I update the version of wallch on usc? | 22:24 |
| micahg | hakermania: your choices are FFe or backport (needs to wait until it opens for P or until it gets uploaded to Q) | 22:30 |
| hakermania | micahg, both of the choices will result in new version of wallch in usc? | 22:33 |
| * micahg isn't sure how backports in USC works | 22:34 | |
| * hakermania doesn't know what to do | 22:36 | |
| micahg | FFe will upgrade everyone, backport will make it available for everyone, just not sure how that's displayed in USC | 22:36 |
| hakermania | Oh, then I'll go with a FFe, definitely | 22:38 |
| hakermania | micahg, many thanks, bye | 22:53 |
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