[00:22] <superm1> dekarl: oh weird..
[00:22] <dekarl> hmm, so its working for you?
[15:11] <superm1> dekarl: i'll have to try again, i haven' done it for a bit
[16:31] <dekarl> superm1: no problem. Its just a bit annoying as I tend to forget to cleanup when trying again. But in the end its "nice to have". Btw, compiling with the script and 1/2/3 patches works like a charm. I'm looking forward to the automated master+patch builder. Been thinking about how to interface that with trac to make patch testing by end users "super easy".
[17:33] <superm1> dekarl: can you pastebin terminal output from next time it happens?  maybe pipe output into tee or something
[17:33] <superm1> otherwise when i get a round to it i'll try to reproduce too
[17:36] <dekarl> np, http://paste.ubuntu.com/896727/
[17:36] <Zinn> [paste.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[17:36] <dekarl> superm1 -^
[17:37] <dekarl> its only a simulated compile error (CTRL+C) but was reproducable
[17:37] <superm1> ah...
[17:37] <superm1> so this probably started showing up shortly after that patch you provided to fix mythweb paths
[17:38] <dekarl> maybe, might as well be due to mythweb's master changing and the patches needing some fudging
[17:38] <dekarl> but you seem to have picked up the track either way :)
[19:06] <hpeter> dekarl: thanx for mythfilldb hint, works now :)
[19:07] <dekarl> ahh, cool :)
[19:11] <stuartm> how do I stop ubuntu popping up a warning over mythfrontend about being short on disk space (this isn't even the root partition but a drive dedicated to recordings)
[19:13] <rhpot1991> stuartm: easiest way is to increase the free space in mythtv-setup
[19:13] <rhpot1991> I think in the general section
[19:13] <superm1> stuartm: i'm assuming this is a standard gnome (or unity) type install?
[19:18] <stuartm> superm1: no, mythbuntu
[19:19] <superm1> stuartm: oh interesting.  i'm wondering what would cause that popup even
[19:19] <superm1> any chance you have a screenshot so i can see what it looks like might be showing it?
[19:19] <stuartm> rhpot1991: right, but that would be a complete waste of space - I want to use every MB for recording :)
[19:20] <stuartm> superm1: I've dismissed the popup for now, so no, but it was a gnome style 'OK' popup warning that there was just 89MB free on that partition
[19:20] <dekarl> Ohh, what is this filesystem that does not get dog slow once it fills up past a certain threshold? :)
[19:20] <superm1> stuartm: hmm.  ok.  i'll try to think what it could be
[19:21] <rhpot1991> stuartm: I agree with dekarl you are opening yourself up to bad fragmentation doing this
[19:21] <rhpot1991> also I like to leave extra space for when I drop a file out there by hand or something
[19:23] <dekarl> I'm at or below 1% free on ext4 and mythtv keeps shouting at me regularly because writes take so long. 1% at 2TB is still 20GB
[19:23] <stuartm> rhpot1991: never the less, ubuntu shouldn't be prompting users about free space with dialogues over the top of mythfrontend that can't be dismissed with a remote
[19:23] <dekarl> grep says it might have something to do with being recording to the database/system drive though
[19:25] <rhpot1991> dekarl: ya you don't want to fill up a drive that has mysql on it, bad things will happen
[19:44] <tgm4883> I don't recall seeing any popups on mine and I should have a pretty slim recordings drive right now. what distro release?
[19:45] <tgm4883> actually nm
[19:45] <tgm4883> I have a separate backend/frontend
[19:45] <tgm4883> Still want to know the distro release version
[19:45] <tgm4883> and a screenshot of the popup
[19:46] <tgm4883> stuartm, ^
[19:47] <rhpot1991> I've seen similar with an updates popup, but that was quite a few releases ago
[19:54] <stuartm> 11.04 apparently
[19:58] <tgm4883> ok, i'm running a test on ubuntu 11.10  now
[19:59] <tgm4883> stuartm, how much free space did you have left before you saw the error?
[19:59] <stuartm> 90MB
[20:00] <stuartm> I'm guessing that it's not constantly checking, possibly a once or twice per day type thing, the warning was on-screen when I turned on the TV for the first time today
[20:01] <rhpot1991> mythtv checks every 15 minutes I think
[20:01] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, this would be an external to mythtv popup
[20:02] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: I know, I'm saying in case there is an overlap
[20:02] <tgm4883> i'm hoping this triggers the popup when it reaches that limit
[20:02] <tgm4883> I'm just doing cat /dev/urandom > test
[20:02] <rhpot1991> heh was just typing out similar
[20:03] <tgm4883> I should have made a smaller vm, I've still got about 7GB to fill
[20:03] <rhpot1991> hopefully mythtv doesn't clean it up faster than you can spawn it out
[20:04] <stuartm> mythtv won't delete files created externally, only the ones it knows about because they are in the database
[20:05] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, yea, this isn't even a mythtv box
[20:05] <rhpot1991> stuartm: yep, I was assuming it was a test box that he had some mythtv related things in
[20:05] <tgm4883> I didn't have a mythtv ISO handy, and I figured it was external popup anyway
[20:05] <tgm4883> I'll get a screenshot and stuartm can confirm if that is what he is seeing
[20:19] <tgm4883> stuartm, was it this http://imagebin.org/204877
[20:19] <Zinn> [imagebin.org] Imagebin - A place to slap up your images.
[20:22] <stuartm> tgm4883: yes ... fwiw I'm just noticing the 'do no show warning again', not sure if that was present for 11.04 but even so if I can disable it entirely for all filesystems and prevent future popups for all partitions
[20:22] <stuartm>  ... then that's what I'm looking for (to complete what I was trying to say there)
[20:24] <tgm4883> I'm not sure if that was there in 11.04 or not
[20:24] <tgm4883> superm1, ^^ do we want to look at disabling this notification by default?
[20:28] <superm1> tgm4883: i'm really unsure why that notification came in ubuntu in the first place
[20:28] <superm1> i'm not sure what application is doing it
[20:28] <superm1> *mythbuntu
[20:29] <tgm4883> superm1, a quick search says gnome-settings-daemon
[20:29] <superm1> well we dont have gnome-settings-daemon on mythbuntu though...
[20:29]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[20:29] <tgm4883> stuartm, ^^
[20:29] <tgm4883> do you have that installed?
[20:30] <superm1> well installed doesn't matter - it's more if it's running that it would matter
[20:30] <superm1> and if it's running, that might be an even bigger problem
[20:31]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[20:31] <stuartm> tgm4883: yes, it's installed and not marked as a manual install, i.e. I didn't install it myself for some reason
[20:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[20:32] <tgm4883> superm1, can we find what he installed that pulled it in?
[20:33] <superm1> that old release used it for the gdm session i believe
[20:33] <superm1> it's not used anymore
[20:33] <superm1> but so is it actually running?
[20:33] <tgm4883> he's on 11.10?
[20:33] <superm1> he was on 11.04?
[20:33] <tgm4883> ah thats right
[20:36] <tgm4883> I'm assuming this would work  'ps aux | grep gnome-settings-daemon'
[20:36] <tgm4883> stuartm, ^^
[20:36] <tgm4883> that works on the 11.10 ubuntu machine I just tested this on
[20:37] <stuartm> it doesn't here, seems to because the process names are truncated, ps only displays "gnome-settings-"
[20:38] <stuartm> sorry, it does work ... typo
[20:38]  * stuartm hangs his head in shame
[20:38] <tgm4883> stuartm, it lists more than just the grep line?
[20:39] <stuartm> yes
[20:39] <tgm4883> :/
[20:39] <tgm4883> stuartm, was this an upgrade from an older version?
[20:39] <tgm4883> or fresh 11.10 install?
[20:39] <tgm4883> err 11.04
[20:39] <stuartm> gbee      2059  0.0  0.7 372624 20028 ?        Ssl  Mar13   1:33 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
[20:39] <tgm4883> yea that seems to be running
[20:40] <superm1> well that's pretty bizarre then
[20:40] <stuartm> tgm4883: upgrade from an older version, maybe two upgrades, it's been a while since I did a fresh install of anything
[20:40] <superm1> can you provide the whole output of ps aux in a pastebin?  i'm wondering if that's the process spawned from gdm
[20:40] <superm1> just wasn't killed when you logged in
[20:44] <stuartm> probably won't help, since I killed it just before you asked ... :) I can restart it later when it's not in use
[20:46] <stuartm> aux or auxf (presuming the latter)?
[20:47] <superm1> oh yeah auxf would be far better
[20:48] <superm1> assuming it's spawned by the gdm process, it's fixed in later releases by switching to lightdm
[20:48] <superm1> and that's assuming that's what is causing the low space error too
[20:51] <stuartm> I don't mind upgrading if that will 'fix' it, I've just avoided it before now because there was no particular reason to do so before today
[20:51] <stuartm> my production machine gets very little attention
[20:52] <superm1> well the jump 11.04 to 11.10 does cause some upgrade problems too
[20:52] <superm1> specifically with that lightdm transition
[20:53] <superm1> we'll see next time it crops up for you what the best approach is
[21:10] <superm1> dekarl: so the weird thing with that failure of yours is that it should have called quilt pop -a to clean up those patches
[21:11] <superm1> failed build or not
[21:11] <superm1> i wonder if that call is failing though because of the bzr clean-tree --force call
[21:11] <superm1> could you set -x with it and pastebin that output?
[21:12] <superm1> can see if quilt pop even gets reached
[22:35] <dekarl> superm1: set -x ?