[00:00] <Oer> the firewall is build on IP-tables, build-in in the kernel
[00:00] <revenimus> hello fromgreece
[00:00] <ryzzan> i have this "kitchen printer"... n i guess it's well configured (using cups)... but it returns an error (frequently) while printing... so i turn it off, than turn it on... n it completes the printing allright
[00:00] <linxeh> kitchen printer? :)
[00:01] <ryzzan> it's like it looses contact to the pc for a minute and get back when i "reset" it...
[00:01] <ryzzan> linxeh: google it
[00:01] <OsamaObama> Oer: iptables -L didn't show anything after my installation
[00:01] <ryzzan> it's an epson tm-u200
[00:01] <linxeh> ryzzan: nah, I'd rather not
[00:01] <Oer> OsamaObama, there is no rule installed after installation
[00:02] <ryzzan> linxeh: that's how i learned it is called in english
[00:02] <linxeh> (there are multiple products in that category for a start, I'm not sure it would help narrow down what you have)
[00:02] <OsamaObama> Oer: So its not used by default?
[00:02] <Oer> OsamaObama, yep
[00:03] <OsamaObama> Oer: Why?
[00:03] <myz> OsamaObama, it is used, but is not set by default!
[00:03] <OsamaObama> myz: How is it used? iptables -L showed nothing.
[00:04] <Oer> see the link obottu gave you
[00:04] <Oer> all you need is a gui to enable services/rules
[00:04] <ryzzan> anyone knows what a "kitchen printer" is and have any experience with it?
[00:04] <OsamaObama> Oer: I know, gufw
[00:04] <OsamaObama> Oer: Well, thanks.
[00:05] <Chipzzz> ryzzan: a printer that uses food dye instead of ink, maybe?
[00:05] <myz> OsamaObama, Yes it is used but you did not load it with your rules yet, if you typed "iptables -L -vn" you will find the counters
[00:05] <OsamaObama> myz: Nice!
[00:06] <ryzzan> Chipzzz: u could take a look on it in google n tell how u would call these kind of printers
[00:06] <myz> OsamaObama, welcome!
[00:06] <Oer> ryzzan, is that printer set in highest resolution? maybe lower it could solve this
[00:07] <Chipzzz> ryzzan: lol, sorry
[00:07] <ryzzan> Chipzzz, no need... i was just wondering if there is any other name for those
[00:08] <ryzzan> Oer, i've notice that when it gets the error, the o.s. can't find it when i try to add a new printer (it definitely "loses contact" while printing)
[00:09] <ryzzan> but i don't want to turn it off n on everytime so i will be able to finish my printings...
[00:09] <ryzzan> :P
[00:09] <ryzzan> :)
[00:09] <ryzzan> Oer, thnx for the tip... gonna try it
[00:11] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, alternative name for that is a receipt printer
[00:11] <ryzzan> cryptotheslow, thnx
[00:12] <cryptotheslow> np
[00:14] <ryzzan> cryptotheslow, besides the name... do u know anything about those working under linux?
[00:15] <stbasil> Question: I installed 10.04 on a computer, everything went off w/o a hitch. I restart, go to desktop, check internet, it's all ok, then restart. Now after splash screen the screen turns into an oil slick rainbow then black and will not go further. Did not change any driver or graphic property; just restarted after first login and now it's kaput. I can get to terminal in recue mode but no idea what to do to resolve this...
[00:16] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, no only ever set them up on old Mentor boxes.
[00:17] <ryzzan> :(
[00:18] <ryzzan> cryptotheslow, know any place where i could find ppd made by users?
[00:18] <zoologist> can anyone see what I write ?
[00:18] <ryzzan> zoologist, we do
[00:18] <ryzzan> :P
[00:19] <ryzzan> at least i do
[00:19] <zoologist> I'm a zoologist, and I use Perl & Ubuntu daily in my work, ask me anything.
[00:19] <myz> stbasil, does it turns to oil slick after prompted for uername and password or before?
[00:19] <stbasil> myz: before. only successful part of splash is "ubuntu 10.04" and the 4 dots that make up the loading bar
[00:20] <ryzzan> anyone knows any site where i can find ppds made by users?
[00:20] <danipolo> is there a way to reset display remotely (w/out gui)?
[00:20] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, doesn't epson supply one?
[00:21] <ryzzan> cryptotheslow, it's really old shit... they don't support it anymore... i've found old drivers for windows... but none for linux
[00:21] <szal> zoologist: this channel is not a question-and-answer game, especially not about zoology (if you want to show off your scientific expertise, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic).. if you want to help w/ *buntu questions, just stick around here & you'll find plenty of opportunity
[00:22] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, you may be able to extract the ppd file from the windows drivers if they are postscript rather than pcl/pjl drivers
[00:23] <ryzzan> gonna try it... ty again, cryptotheslow
[00:25] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, if you find ppd's there the winNT one is the best bet. Adobe have some older ppd's as well http://www.adobe.com/products/printerdrivers/winppd.html#e    shame the sownload is some sort of .exe self extractor
[00:25] <myz> stbasil, have you tried to press ESC while the screen is black, if a list of kernels appeared to you try to select a different kernel
[00:26] <stbasil> myz: no keyboard response during black
[00:28] <myz> did you upgrade after installation?
[00:28] <philipballew_> HOw would I move files from a virtual box to my regular install?
[00:29] <szal> philipballew_: by sharing them in a shared folder & copying to where you want/need them
[00:31] <philipballew_> szal, okay. ill look into it
[00:32] <linxeh> ryzzan: is that printer on a wired network or wireless ?
[00:32] <ryzzan> linxeh: it's local
[00:33] <ryzzan> it wont be used on a network
[00:33] <hydester> i'm trying to use proxychains via SSH -Y redirection to run any X app and it returns "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.".  any ideas on how to fix this?
[00:33] <hydester> it works fine when on the remote machine locally (no ssh involved)
[00:33] <alhemija> aaaa
[00:33] <ryzzan> it seens it loses contact to the pc while i'm using ubuntu... but it works fine when i try it on windows
[00:33] <alhemija> aasd
[00:34] <szal> !test | alhemija
[00:34] <ryzzan> on ubuntu, it prints to the end... but i need to turn it off and on so it will work
[00:34] <linxeh> ryzzan: ok; the ones I've used have all been on ethernet
[00:34] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, what kind of connection? USB, Serial, Parallel?
[00:35] <ryzzan> cryptotheslow, it's serial
[00:35] <linxeh> ryzzan: and how is it connected? USB->serial cable? or onboard serial port? or card?
[00:35] <ryzzan> linxeh, will it work if i don't use the serial port n try it only with an ethernet cable? :P
[00:35] <linxeh> I've had issues with USB->serial cables for other things
[00:36] <linxeh> ryzzan: does it have an ethernet port? I dont recall you mentioning make/model
[00:36] <cryptotheslow> epson TU-220
[00:36] <ryzzan> i did... it's an epson tm-u200
[00:36] <linxeh> ok my bad then :)
[00:36] <cryptotheslow> oops
[00:36] <cryptotheslow> :)
[00:37] <ryzzan> it has ethernet port
[00:37] <Guest20348> hello all, im using lubuntu 11.10 my clock is set for military time what is code to change? thanks
[00:37] <ryzzan> but i didn't try it... only trying the serial port
[00:38] <ryzzan> i'm using the ppd to the epson tm-u220 series
[00:38] <ryzzan> it works ok... but it's the same... it seens it loses contact to the pc from time to time
[00:38] <linxeh> I try and only buy ethernet printers - mainly because I find them more useful, but generally have less issues with them than any other connection. serial connections can be dodgy these days too IME - I reckon a lot of people dont understand flow control properly etc
[00:38] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: click the clock/click date & time settings/select the clock tab/ then select 12 hour
[00:39] <cryptotheslow> ryzzan, handy link for you http://www.beaglehardware.com/howtoethernet.html
[00:39] <danipolo> I upgraded to current version of ubuntu, and now my display doesnt work, i'm trying to fix it remotely, but have run out of ideas.
[00:39] <Guest20348> it's not that way like ubuntu it's just % setup :(
[00:39] <ryzzan> cryptotheslow, gonna read it...
[00:39] <UnknownFork>  Is there an Xubuntu wubi installer? (Not that I like Windows, but I just need to run Windows applications, and I don't like Wine.)
[00:39] <ryzzan> linxeh, thnx for the tips
[00:40] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: I don't understand, can you clarify?
[00:40] <ryzzan> gotta go... c ya
[00:40] <Guest20348> digital clock settings just has clock format %R
[00:41] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: Have you changed your shell?
[00:42] <Guest20348> hmm.. im new not sure what that is
[00:42] <knorsch> dito :-)
[00:42] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: you don;t have a clock on your top bar? Near your name?
[00:43] <Guest20348> i do
[00:43] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: can you click it and selct Dae & Time settings at the bottom
[00:43] <Ian_Moone> How can I use a different background on each display?
[00:44] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: TIme & Date Settings
[00:44] <Guest20348> i see :) hey thank you so much!
[00:44] <haz3lnut> Guest20348: welcome
[00:46] <knorsch> does anyone know weather there is a seperated channel for elementary os?
[00:47] <bazhang> knorsch, check with alis
[00:47] <bazhang> !alis | knorsch
[00:47] <knorsch> thx
[00:51] <TheBeast> is there a quick guide I can follow to create my own debian packages?
[00:52] <bazhang> !packaging | TheBeast
[00:52] <_johnny> hmm, can someone explain to me why doing a do-release-upgrade leaves me without apt ?? o_O
[00:53] <arand> _johnny: From where to whence? Did apt get removed in the process??
[00:53] <EoN> what's the best FREE open source 'control panel' (cpanel type setup) for a linux web server?
[00:54] <_johnny> arand: from 10.04 to 10.10, and.. apparently so. aptitude is also gone
[00:54] <alex12> hey guys
[00:54] <cryptotheslow> EoN, have a look at Webmin maybe
[00:54] <alex12> where is dating channel here?
[00:54] <danipolo> Please forgive me for asking again, I only have ssh access to my ubuntu box, and I want to change the display or set it to auto-detect.  How would I do that?
[00:54] <alex12> seems its all coders chat
[00:54] <alex12> such a large server
[00:54] <zykotick9> !webmin | cryptotheslow oh please no.
[00:54] <bazhang> alewrong network
[00:54]  * cryptotheslow shuts up :)
[00:54] <alex12> bazhang lol I though freenode is massive for dating
[00:55] <bazhang> alex12, no.
[00:55] <alex12> which one do u think is better?
[00:55] <pamb> I need to grep all files to find a string is this command enough  "grep -rl 'string' folder " ???
[00:55] <bazhang> searchirc.com alex12
[00:55] <_johnny> no irc network is good for dating
[00:55] <_johnny> who are you looking to date? o_O
[00:55] <alex12> jonny emm there are tons of dating channels
[00:55] <_johnny> lol
[00:55] <alex12> some sri lankan girls :)
[00:55] <bazhang> _johnny, lets stop it and get back on topic alex12 you too
[00:56] <alex12> ok ok
[00:56] <alex12> :)
[00:56] <_johnny> ?
[00:56] <alex12> bazhang whats  u topic?
[00:56] <bazhang> _johnny, this is ubuntu support ONLY. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:56] <alex12> cool
[00:56] <alex12> :)
[00:56] <_johnny> bazhang: maybe you should re-read what i said. i asked a serious question
[00:57] <bazhang> _johnny, questions about dating have ZERO to do with ubuntu support , lets move on
[00:57] <_johnny> i didn't ask about dating, so get off your high horse
[00:57] <_johnny> i asked about apt and aptitude, which i thought was fairly on topic in this chan
[00:58] <arand> _johnny: As per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage#When_upgrading_Ubuntu_.28or_derivatives.29 you might find hints as to what went awry in the dist-upgrade logs, also, please do report a bug if possible
[00:58] <_johnny> arand: thanks
[00:59] <chris_> Hey all.  I'm having some issues with flash.
[00:59] <arand> _johnny: For getting apt back, I'd download it manually from packages.ubuntu.com with wget or so.
[01:00] <arand> (Or, well, with firefox, if you fancy GUI)
[01:00] <_johnny> ah, just what i was looking for, thanks again ;)
[01:01] <Guest20348> is lubuntu faster than xubuntu? desktop wise
[01:01] <chris_> It's not meshing well with Ubuntu or Firefox.
[01:01] <danipolo>  xrandr --output --auto  Can't open display
[01:01] <zykotick9> Guest20348: probably, it has lower requirements
[01:02] <Guest20348> k ty
[01:03] <arand> Guest20348: Being less resource-demanding doesn't necessarily make it faster, unless you're running it on something close to the minimum requirements
[01:05] <Guest20348> i got older netbook 2.2ghz 4gb ram... so lubuntu should be fine?
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> Guest20348  that's far better than my current pc, which runs plain ubuntu
[01:05] <_johnny> arand: way too many dependencies also missing. time to do a proper upgrade. thanks for the help though. night :)
[01:06] <bazhang> Guest20348, ubuntu itself should run well on that
[01:06] <EoN> is "ispconfig" popular?
[01:06] <danipolo> can xrandr be run remotely?
[01:06] <bazhang> EoN, ifconfig is the command
[01:06] <arand> _johnny: You could also try upgrading using the alternate-install iso
[01:06] <_johnny> i did :)
[01:06] <_johnny> hehe
[01:06] <chris_> For some reason, Flash occasionally won't play a video on youtube, and when that happens, Firefox won't delete its own lock files.
[01:07] <_johnny> without apt and such, doing a new alternate install is not possible
[01:07] <chris_> Can someone shed some light on this or direct me to someone who can?
[01:07] <arand> _johnny: Yeah, that might be true... :(
[01:08] <EoN> bazhang: i'm talking about an open source product called ispconfig
[01:08] <EoN> it's an open source cpanel type thign
[01:08] <_johnny> anyway, night time here. will report back if i find another solution other than reinstall :)
[01:08] <bazhang> !ebox | EoN try this
[01:08] <ScG^Dedicated> Q: Is upgrading in any way less efficient then a clean (re)install?
[01:08] <bazhang> ScG^Dedicated, no
[01:09] <ScG^Dedicated> Does linux slow down like Windows after for example a year of use? :)
[01:10] <MonkeyDust> ScG^Dedicated  no
[01:10] <ScG^Dedicated> ty :)
[01:10] <ScG^Dedicated> just basic questions floating in my head ^^
[01:10] <yobamba> ScG^Dedicated: Why do you compare a kernel with an operating system?
[01:10] <bazhang> !manual | ScG^Dedicated
[01:10] <MonkeyDust> ScG^Dedicated  it's one of the reasons why i switched (curiousity was another reason)
[01:10] <bazhang> !rute | ScG^Dedicated also this
[01:11] <_johnny> arand: sorry, my bad, forgot to restart lol ;) d'oh. so nvm hehe
[01:12] <ScG^Dedicated> bazhang, it is because I just because I am new to linux even though I am already setting up ufw, apparmor and stuff
[01:13] <ScG^Dedicated> sorry for the because because XD
[01:13] <bazhang> ScG^Dedicated, you should check those links fully they answer all such very basic questions
[01:13] <danipolo> hints for using xrandr or similar command from putty/(not X)?
[01:13] <ome> How can i manually request an IP from a DHCP server ?
[01:14] <ScG^Dedicated> I understand that it answers such questions but for them to be answered I need to read it all XD
[01:14] <bazhang> ome, sudo dhclient eth0
[01:14] <bazhang> ome, or whatever it is wlan0 etc
[01:15] <EoN> which is more popular/better out of ISPConfig vs Webmin?
[01:15] <bazhang> EoN, webmin is not supported
[01:15] <chris_> Can someone here please direct me to an IRC channel where I can find some help regarding Flash and Firefox?
[01:15] <bazhang> !info ispconfig
[01:15] <yobamba> ScG^Dedicated:  And just to make it clear: Linux is a kernel for the operating system GNU which is available in different distributions such as Debian/Ubuntu/Trisquel, as NT is a kernel for the operating system Windows which is available in different distributions such as XP/Vista/7.
[01:16] <bazhang> chris_, what help
[01:16] <ScG^Dedicated> thank you yobamba but that I already knew :)
[01:16] <chris_> Flash occasionally won't load a video and when that happens, Firefox doesn't delete its lock files.
[01:16] <chris_> It seems to happen on a random basis.
[01:17] <ScG^Dedicated> I'm not completely new to Linux, I just was a bit unsure about those two things
[01:17] <yobamba> ScG^Dedicated: Did you? So why are you talking about the kernel Linux?
[01:17] <bazhang> chris_, what version of ubuntu, what arch, how did you install flash, what plugins are you using for firefox
[01:17] <ScG^Dedicated> when did I ever say that?
[01:17] <bazhang> yobamba, lets move on please
[01:17] <[[thufir]]> trying to compile (with rvm) and getting the following error:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1531824     now, is the problem with the patch, perhaps, or in how I'm using it?
[01:18] <ScG^Dedicated> yobamba, when did I ever say that?
[01:19] <bazhang> ScG^Dedicated, lets stay on topic
[01:19] <yobamba> Thing is, if say Ubuntu moves on and uses other kernels like the FreeBSD one, and even the HURD one, will people still call it Linux, even though there is no trace of it in the installed system?
[01:19] <chris_> Ubuntu 11.10.  I installed flash through the software center and through flash-aid.  I had also used flash video replacer, which I suspect is what might have caused the problem.
[01:19] <bazhang> yobamba, ?
[01:19] <chris_> I have since removed both addons.
[01:19] <cryptotheslow> :D
[01:19] <bazhang> yobamba, how is that related to ubuntu support? lets move on please
[01:20] <MonkeyDust> chris_  I had a similar issue, it turned out Gnash was installed and active -- problem solved by uninstalling Gnash
[01:20] <bazhang> chris_, you removed gnash? and the swf tool?
[01:20] <chris_> OK.  I'll try that.
[01:20] <bazhang> chris_, and you installed flash through two distinct and differing sources?
[01:21] <[[thufir]]> yobamba: no
[01:21] <ScG^Dedicated> bazhang, are there any channels where you can jsut ask questions and discuss linux related things?
[01:21] <chris_> I think flash-aid uses the flash mirror to install it, so, not technically.
[01:21] <bazhang> ScG^Dedicated, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:21] <chris_> Just checked, I don't have Gnash installed.
[01:21] <[[thufir]]> I had to install flash from the flash website
[01:21] <ScG^Dedicated> ty
[01:22] <ljt> chris_: run firefox in safe mode
[01:22] <chris_> I did. The problem persists.
[01:22] <chris_> I have disabled all patches save for flash, and the problem still exists.
[01:22] <chris_> I even deleted my entire profile.  It still happens
[01:23] <bazhang> chris_, the issue is clearly relate d to you having installed flash from a multitude of sources, along with gnash and who knows what else
[01:24] <bazhang> chris_, completely purge flash and all the others from your system and reinstall only the ubuntu packaged one
[01:24] <chris_> I'll try that.
[01:25] <chris_> For some reason, I can't purge it though apt-get
[01:25] <chris_> nvm, I found it.
[01:26]  * rhizmoe removes SO from rss
[01:29] <chris_> Didn't work.  Videos still hang occasionally.
[01:32] <chris_> When loaded from the console, Firefox spits out this message when it refuses to play: *** nsHTMLElement::FinishDecoderSetup() mDecoder=0xa3677d40 stream=0xa80cb000 src=http://o-o.preferred.dfw06s10.v23.lscache2.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?upn=MzE2ODAzMzQ0NzEyNTQ2ODAwMw%3D%3D&sparams=cp%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&fexp=907050%2C914064%2C913601%2C914102&itag=43&ip=173.0.0.0&signature=7E28E01E9F4750D3630CCC8041F440CA825C9286.7C
[01:32] <chris_> D286686EF5F1A980EBE9BEEBA45117F1F3EC6A&sver=3&ratebypass=yes&source=youtube&expire=1332489412&key=yt1&ipbits=8&cp=U0hSR1RTV19GTENOMl9MTUFFOndoRUZ4aTJ6aVU0&id=fe7a64586c182695
[01:33] <ljt> woah use a pastebin
[01:34] <chris_> Sorry, not quite used to IRC chat yet.
[01:35] <ljt> chris_: you say the videos hang?
[01:35] <ljt> any more detail?
[01:35] <chris_> Yes.  Redownloading didn't work.
[01:36] <chris_> The videos will either load and play though, or they will hang right at the beginning.
[01:36] <ljt> as in - do they play then freeze? does the applet load at all?
[01:36] <EoN> have you guys heard of webmin/virtualmin?  would you recommend them for helping manage a server/web host?
[01:36] <ljt> the applet loads, but the video just doesn't play?
[01:36] <chris_> The applet loads, they just stop playing right after the first few milliseconds.
[01:37] <EoN> non-commercial, but may host a few sites for friends etc
[01:37] <Ben64> chris_: you on 64 or 32 bit?
[01:37] <chris_> I'm on 32 bit.
 EoN, webmin is not supported <-- why?
[01:37] <Ben64> chris_: what version of flash?
[01:37] <ljt> chris_: does it happen on any other video site?
[01:37] <EoN> not supported by who?
[01:38] <Ben64> !webmin
[01:38] <chris_> I ought to be using the most recent stable version.
[01:38] <chris_> I had just reinstalled it.
[01:38] <chris_> It only seems to happen on youtube.
[01:39] <chris_> I know it still works with blip.tv
[01:39] <Ben64> chris_: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[01:40] <chris_> I've got Flash 11.1.102.63
[01:40] <itaylor57> chris_, what is the output of  lsb_release -sc in terminal?
[01:40] <chris_> Oneric
[01:40] <chris_> *Oneiric
[01:41] <chris_> It's sure living up to its name.
[01:41] <ljt> EoN: personally speaking, I have used Webmin to administer a debian server and it worked pretty well for me (I would reccommend it if you need a gui). Just don't ask for support/advice for it on #ubuntu/#debian channels
[01:41] <MonkeyDust> chris_  try youtube.com/html5
[01:41] <Ben64> really shouldn't use webmin on ubuntu
[01:42] <Dulak> webmin is the devil.  The entire bloated piece of crap runs as root and gives web access.  That's a horrible idea.
[01:42] <waters33637> i have it running right now on ubuntu 11.04 ...
[01:42] <ljt> oops what have i unleashed
[01:43] <waters33637> what should we use in place of webmin?
[01:43] <Ben64> !zentyal
[01:43] <waters33637> ebox
[01:43] <waters33637> !ebox
[01:44] <waters33637> can i just do apt-get remove webmin   ?
[01:44] <dackshawny> hey all... i've just installed dhcp3-server... seems it's now isc-dhcp-server... wahtever
[01:44] <ljt> waters33637: I'd do apt-get purge webmin
[01:45] <dackshawny> i have it serving ips
[01:45] <dackshawny> but I cant seem to get it to start at boot
[01:45] <ljt> waters33637: if you're sure you won't be reinstalling it
[01:45] <ljt> waters33637: not that it matters too much
[01:45] <dackshawny> any ideas on how to get isc-dhcp-server to start at boot?
[01:46] <waters33637> yeah .. i can live without is .. and the ebox thing would force me to change
[01:46] <chris_> From the looks of it, I'm having trouble with HTML5 videos.  All the videos which are explicitly flash seem to work.
[01:49] <chris_> Yeah.  Now that I've opted into the HTML5 test, none of the HTML5 videos work at all.  Only the videos which are explicitly flash driven work.
[01:50] <chris_> Looks like my problem is with HTML5.
[01:52] <waters33637> wow ... so it's nothing like webmin .... what about ispconfig ?
[01:52] <fishead> hello, after i boot my laptop, the screen display the progress bar and no more, i must switch to command line and run lightdm, then gnome3 disappear, so how can i make ubuntu run lightdm automatically?
[01:53] <bazhang> waters33637, from ubuntu or 3rd party?
[01:53] <waters33637> ubuntu
[01:54] <bazhang> !info ispconfig | waters33637
[01:54] <bazhang> waters33637, where is it
[01:54] <waters33637> where is what?
[01:54] <bazhang> waters33637, ispconfig
[01:54] <waters33637> oh .. it
[01:55] <waters33637> it's 3rd party
[01:55] <MonkeyDust> "SPConfig is an open source hosting control panel for Linux. ISPConfig is licensed under BSD license."
[01:55] <bazhang> yes, waters33637 you said it was from ubuntu
[01:55] <waters33637> no ... the ebox thing
[01:55] <bazhang> waters33637, so contact the ispconfig makers
[01:55] <bazhang> waters33637, you mean zentyal?
[01:55] <Dulak> it's called zentyal now
[01:57] <waters33637> no .. I was talking about webmin ... and people here said webmin wasnt supported ... blah ..blah .. try zentyal .... i then said it was nothing really like webmin ... and was asking how everyone felt about ispconfig for ubuntu
[01:57] <bazhang> waters33637, well webmin is not supported
[01:57]  * YankDownUnder is very happy with Webmin => not supported in THIS channel
[01:57] <gmachine_24> Hi. Using 11.04 - but the version has never mattered. On a notebook running Ubuntu, I cannot connect to my workgroup - although running any version of Windows on any computer I can or any version of Ubuntu when connected with a cable instead of wirelessly. This is true for ALL my laptops - 4+ and counting. Although my laptop(s) can 'see' that there is a Windows network - attempting to...
[01:57] <bazhang> waters33637, as far as the other, we dont support polling the channel
[01:57] <gmachine_24> ...connect to it or open it leads to the same error message every time - "Unable to mount location - failed to retrieve share list from server' ty in advance
[01:58] <Dulak> Yes, because running something as root that gives web access is a GREAT idea.
[01:58] <waters33637> wow ...talking is not polling ....
[01:58] <bazhang> waters33637, you are asking what people think about a certain package, thats the definition of polling.
[02:00] <thetinyjesus_> does anyone know how to install the new liblimobiledevice 1.0.7?
[02:00] <gmachine_24> 3 out of 4 #ubuntu users say waters was polling
[02:00] <bazhang> thetinyjesus_, what version of ubuntu are you on
[02:01] <thetinyjesus_> 12.04
[02:01] <kaz00> @gmachine: is that spam?
[02:01] <thetinyjesus_> bazhang, 12.04
[02:01] <bazhang> thetinyjesus_, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 issues please
[02:02] <thetinyjesus_> bazhang, its not an issue i just have no idea how to get the repository or compile it
[02:02] <bazhang> thetinyjesus_, where is it from? why do you need that version? lets take this to #ubuntu+1 to discuss please
[02:02] <fishead> hello, after i boot my laptop, the screen display the progress bar and no more, i must switch to command line and run lightdm, then gnome3 disappear, so how can i make ubuntu run lightdm automatically? does anybody know?
[02:05] <Hans_Henrik> fishead: idk, but i would guess:  sudo echo "sudo lightdm">/etc/init.d/ldm && sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/ldm
[02:06] <fishead> i'll try
[02:07] <gdea73> after installing skype I'm having major problems with my laptop's microphone
[02:07] <gdea73> does anyone know how to revert all the chaos skype caused?
[02:07] <Hans_Henrik> fishead: before issuing that command, do this: sudo -s
[02:07] <Hans_Henrik> good night every1, i should have been to bed 3 hours ago x.x
[02:08] <aelam1> Hi anybody /
[02:08] <aelam1> >
[02:08] <aelam1> I have a question
[02:08] <gdea73> someone please help me get my microphone working again, I don't have much time and I really want to fix this before I leave tomorrrow
[02:08] <gdea73> * tomorrow.
[02:09] <aelam1> all you guys can execute like  both *rm -rf aFlolder* and  *rm aFolder/ -rf*
[02:09] <gdea73> My microphone constantly switches between working, muted
[02:09] <gdea73> and greyed out, in sound preferences
[02:10] <gdea73> the only time it works is if I run an alsa force-reload, after which it works for about 10 seconds.
[02:10] <philllllijw> how is it that the latest version of ubuntu still wont work automatically with my wireless adapter?
[02:11] <philllllijw> am I doing something wrong?
[02:11] <aelam1> oh no
[02:11] <chris_> I am having a problem with getting youtube videos to play, and I think HTML5 is to blame for it.
[02:11] <fishead> Hans_Henrik: i gonna reboot
[02:12] <gdea73> well crap, I guess I'll terminate my handbrake queue and reboot... brb
[02:12] <chris_> How can I fix it?
[02:12] <EoN> ljt: re webmin - do you know any currently supported similar software?
[02:13] <EoN> i'm really just after a nice, consistant & stable way to maintain a non-commercial web host
[02:13] <hydester> chris_: install flash?
[02:13] <EoN> i could do it all manually, but some sort of management package would probably be cleaner
[02:13] <chris_> Yes, flash is installed.  I'm not having a problem with videos that just require flash to play.
[02:13] <EoN> or anyone?
[02:14] <chris_> Apparently, the videos that don't work are coded in HTML5.
[02:14] <hydester> chris_: you using chrome?
[02:14] <chris_> Firefox version 11.0
[02:15] <hydester> chris_: try with chrome.  html5 support should work with youtube
[02:15] <chris_> I'll try.
[02:15] <hydester> not sure how well firefox supports that
[02:15] <hydester> i didn't think you can have youtube videos exclusively in html 5.  perhaps you need to opt out of the html5 trial, unless that is obe
[02:16] <hydester> http://www.youtube.com/html5 and click remove
[02:16] <chris_> It was happening even when I was opted out though.
[02:16] <chris_> Opting in just made the error exclusive to HTML5 videos.
[02:18] <Ben64> !zentyal | EoN
[02:18] <gdea73> I really need help fixing my microphone. I installed Skype, which apparently ruined my microphone, and now it does not work at all.
[02:19] <hydester> EoN: you can also try turnkey linux.  probably something there for you: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[02:19] <hydester> gdea73: this may be relevant to you - http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/SOLVED-Auto-mute-feature-how-to-disable/td-p/337722
[02:20] <ljt> EoN: just pm'ed you (in case you didn't notice)
[02:21] <gdea73> hydester: thanks a lot for the help, but that line was already commented
[02:21] <hydester> gdea73: uninstall skype?
[02:21] <gdea73> the problem *started* with Skype, I've since purged skype and still can't get the mic working again. This is really frustrating.
[02:21] <chris_> HTML5 seems to work in Chrome, though a bit choppy in full screen.
[02:21] <gdea73> I used my mic last night to record music in Audacity, which I do regularly with this laptop, and often need to do
[02:22] <gdea73> Skype kind of ruined what was set up...
[02:22] <haz3lnut> chris_: that's gonna be your graphics card or your network connection
[02:22] <gdea73> is there a way to reset ALL audio preferences to defaults, because I have no idea what Skype did?
[02:22] <gdea73> (My microphone shows no audio in when I view it in the audio preferences. If I run alsa force-restart it sometimes works for 5-10 seconds.)
[02:22] <chris_> I'm not sure it's my graphics card.  The problem only cropped up recently.
[02:23] <chris_> It used to work fine before.
[02:23] <chris_> Well... It worked, but had a bit of audio lag in flash.
[02:23] <hydester> gdea73: maybe you were using pulseaudio and skype switched you out
[02:23] <haz3lnut> I get choppy playback on 1080p youtube videos.  It;s network delay.  I always drop down to 720p max.
[02:24] <gdea73> hydester: that's very possible. I've rebooted multiple times since then though. How do I switch back to, um..., alsa?
[02:24] <chris_> The video I tested it 360p.
[02:24] <chris_> *is
[02:24] <gdea73> (I'm considering doing this, btw, is this safe? http://blog.zloether.com/2009/11/reset-sound-settings-in-ubuntu.html)
[02:24] <haz3lnut> eew.
[02:24] <chris_> I know.
[02:24] <hydester> chris_: try minitube
[02:24] <gdea73> chris_: I could be wrong but I didn't know if Chrome used hardware acceleration in HTML5 or not ... maybe it's not ?
[02:25] <hydester> chris_: not the best answer, but may help you watch full screen, etc.  seems like you should be talking to google tech support.  talk to youtube people via g+
[02:25] <haz3lnut> my html5 videos show great in chrome, but you could always download the video and replay in vlc to see if that changes things.
[02:25] <gdea73> hydester: do you think purging and reinstalling alsa would help, or would it screw things up to the point of reformatting, which I absolutely don't have time for?
[02:26] <hydester> check out /var/log/apt/history.log and maybe you can see what installing skype did
[02:26] <gdea73> I will, thanks
[02:27] <chris_> I personally don't know if Chrome uses hardware acceleration either, but I would actually prefer to have this fixed in Firefox.
[02:27] <gdea73> actually shoot Skype was installed a while ago, back when the mic worked, and the problems started only when I actually made the first call.
[02:27] <haz3lnut> really though, html5 is just a transport mechanism, the real issue would be in the codec, is it webm or h.264
[02:27] <chris_> I'm not entirely sure, but I think chrome uses h.264.
[02:27] <haz3lnut> firefox will be fixing soon as they just announce they will support h.264 in short order.
[02:27] <chris_> It might also support WebM though.
[02:28] <chris_> OK.
[02:28] <haz3lnut> chris_: both
[02:28] <gdea73> hydester: hm, I checked and the only thing regarding skype in the log was my recent purging of it.
[02:28] <gdea73> Should I try resetting Alsa? In the past that caused immense problems on a different PC, but I don't know what else to do at this point.
[02:29] <chris_> I only just recently put Ubuntu on this comp, so I can always just reinstall and get the standard setup back.
[02:29] <chris_> Should I try this though?
[02:30] <hydester> gdea73: perhaps boot off a live usb and install audacity and try it out
[02:30] <hydester> gdea73: then check if it uses alsa or pulseaudio, etc. and try to install that when you boot back to your hard drive
[02:30] <hydester> gdea73: at least you can do your recordings this way via usb
[02:31] <gdea73> that's true, I could
[02:31] <gdea73> actually the recordings weren't the important part, that was just for fun, the important part was voice communication while I'm out of town for the next week
[02:32] <gdea73> I think  I'll just reinstall Alsa because it seems that Pulseaudio's settings are okay. I'll report back in a few. Thanks for your help.
[02:32] <hydester> chris_: try yahoo videos, hulu, etc. and compare full screen or whatever you are trying to do on youtube
[02:35] <chris_> K.
[02:36] <cerales> Can anyone give me some tips on debugging an upstart service? when I start my service it gets set to 'start/killed' according to initctl list
[02:37] <gdea73> wow, the microphone still doesn't work
[02:37] <gdea73> in fact it works *until* I open a program that initializes it, i.e. Audacity.
[02:37] <gdea73> What do I do? :S
[02:39] <alteregoa> heh its friday the 23th
[02:39] <gdea73> hydester: any other suggestions? Input *worked* before. Input *works* until I open Audacity now. What could be wrong? :(
[02:41] <chris_> Both Yahoo! and Hulu have performance issues in full screen, though it seems they have performance problems period.
[02:41] <gdea73> hydester: any ideas?
[02:41] <Jeremy3D> Anyone know how to tell if my MiniDV camera is being read thru the Firewire port via IEEE1394 ?
[02:41] <gdea73> shoot, can anyone else help?
[02:41] <xangua> chris_: flash video on fullscreen¿ sucks...flash sucks on linux on general
[02:41] <Jeremy3D> I'm trying to use Kino but it's not recognizing any camera
[02:42] <chris_> Tell me about it, but I'm not using flash for hulu or Yahoo.
[02:43] <xangua> chris_ i read full screen and thought you mean video, my bad
[02:45] <aarossig> hey all, I just got a tablet from work and put Ubuntu on it alongside Windows 7. Is it possible to make a "Toogle OS" script for grub? I want to basically have a button on my desktop that I can double click and it restarts the computer and boots into Windows 7
[02:46] <aarossig> (ie: change the default OS in grub before shutting down?)
[02:46] <ljt> you could probably script that ^ somehow
[02:47] <aarossig> the problem is that it is a tablet and it's difficult to change the grub option without a keyboard
[02:47] <aarossig> maybe I need to dust off my bash skills and try to figure this out
[02:48] <ljt> aarossig: i'm intrigued - will take a look see how i could be done
[02:49] <ljt> *it
[02:49] <Guest8076> Hi there
[02:50] <Guest8076> How do I change my name?
[02:50] <KM0201> hmm, thats a good question
[02:50] <superstraw> carefully
[02:50] <Guest8076> Seems you got it km
[02:50] <hello> Guest8076: to change your name type  " /nick  (new_name" w/o quotes
[02:51] <ljt> Guest8076: by deed poll? (in the uk anyway)
[02:51] <Guest8076> Test
[02:51] <Guest8076>  /nick (Crypto
[02:51] <KM0201> Guest8076: no quotes or ()
[02:51] <Guest8076> new_name = Name?
[02:52] <KM0201> Guest8076: yes
[02:52] <Guest8076> I didn't register with the naming server; perhaps that's the issue?
[02:52] <KM0201> Guest8076: hmm, could be.
[02:52] <KM0201> !register | Guest8076
[02:53] <CryptoAlien> Test
[02:53] <CryptoAlien> There we go
[02:54] <CryptoAlien> Alright, guess the name was taken before
[02:54] <CryptoAlien> Anyone here good with wifi?
[02:54] <ljt> aarossig: are you using grub2?
[02:54] <CryptoAlien> Kde :P
[02:54] <KM0201> CryptoAlien: depends on the wifi device... do you know what device you have?
[02:54] <CryptoAlien> Yea, do you need chipset or the device name?
[02:55] <gdea73> oh God, the sound preferences says "waiting for sound system to respond"
[02:55] <KM0201> CryptoAlien: both will be handy
[02:55] <gdea73> could someone help me fix that? I have absolutely no sound. I tried to reinstall pulseaudio.
[02:55] <gdea73> Bad move, I guess. :'(
[02:55] <CryptoAlien> KM:  Linksys WUSB54G/ Chipset:  Intersil ISL3886
[02:56] <CryptoAlien> usb adapter
[02:56] <KM0201> yeah
[02:56] <CryptoAlien> The issue I'm having is that when I dhclient I get an error like,"No dhcp offers recieved"
[02:57] <KM0201> CryptoAlien: do you know what version it is?... there's several versions of that device, i know that
[02:57] <CryptoAlien> and when I use Wicd ( Pile of shit as far as I'm concerned ) I get bad password
[02:57] <CryptoAlien> It's version 1, sorry
[02:57] <CryptoAlien> The reason I'm freaking out is taht I've gotten it to work before
[02:57] <pangolin> CryptoAlien, Please mind your language in here
[02:57] <CryptoAlien> pangolin: Sorry man, I didn't mean for it to be offensive to anyone
[02:57] <pangolin> CryptoAlien, I know, which is why I asked nicely :)
[02:58] <CryptoAlien> pangolin: Just a bit frustrated, this has been a four day... "test"
[02:58] <KM0201> .
[02:58] <KM0201> CryptoAlien: try taking a look at this... http://eksfiles.net/2008/01/using-the-linksys-wusb54g-v1-or-v4-with-ubuntu-gutsy/
[02:58] <CryptoAlien> KM0201: I've taken a look at that before; I've gotten it to "work" before
[02:58] <Jeremy3D> I have a 3.5" bay on the front of the computer with Two USBs and 1 Firewire. I know for certain the USBs work.  How can I check in Ubuntu 11.10 if the Firewire is enabled and working?
[02:59] <CryptoAlien> KM0201: When I restarted the box ( VMWARE ) it started acting up
[02:59] <KM0201> hmm, i have no idea.
[02:59] <CryptoAlien> KM0201: Thanks anyways :\
[02:59] <KM0201> brb
[03:00] <KM0201> just did a truckload of updates
[03:00] <Jeremy3D> is there something similiar to a System Manager in Ubuntu?
[03:00] <Guest20348> if i wanted to switch from lubuntu to ubuntu is it possible to back up a folder of my stuff?
[03:00] <ljt> aarossig: *poke*
[03:01] <bazhang> Guest20348, no need, just install lubuntu-desktop package
[03:01] <xangua> Jeremy3D: open the dash and tyoe system monitor
[03:01] <Guest20348> on top
[03:01] <Guest20348> really
[03:01] <Guest20348> ok :)
[03:01] <CryptoAlien> Anyone else here know anything about wifi related adapters?
[03:01] <Jeremy3D> xangua, i'm looking for devices
[03:01] <Jeremy3D> I meant "device Manager"
[03:01] <bazhang> Guest20348, yes, then choose from login window
[03:01] <bazhang> CryptoAlien, using your wifi adapter inside a vm? is that what you mean?
[03:01] <Guest20348> great ty bazhang!
[03:01] <Jeremy3D> don't know if my firewire port is working or not. therefore can't troubleshoot why i can't see my minidv cam with kino
[03:02] <KM0201> i always get such a feeling of exhilaration when i update a beta and nothing is broken.. :)
[03:02] <Dulak> Guest20348: yes, the various flavors of ubuntu are the same base system with different packages installed depending on the flavor, you can have those packages all installed on the same machine at once and choose your X session at login.
[03:02] <CryptoAlien> bazhang:  The issue I'm having is that my wifi adapter will give me errors like,"No dhcp requests" when I try to connect from command line, or "Bad password" when connecting through wicd
[03:02] <Guest20348> wow didn't know that sounds awesome
[03:03] <bazhang> CryptoAlien, from within the vm? using a wifi hardware adapter from within a vm?
[03:03] <Jeremy3D> can anyone help?
[03:03] <superdave321> ok, so apparently i dislike unity. How do i turn it off?
[03:03] <CryptoAlien> bazhang: Yes, from within VM
[03:03] <Jeremy3D> i guess i could jump in windows just to see if the device is being shown there. but how would i know if ubuntu were seeing the camcorder?
[03:03] <CryptoAlien> bazhang: I've gotten it to work before, after the restart it just got crazy
[03:04] <bazhang> CryptoAlien, the vm is going to use bridged networking, and not your actual wifi adapter
[03:04] <xangua> !nounity | superdave321
[03:04] <MrHanjrah> Jeremy3D: disconnect it, then reconnect and in terminal type: dmesg | tail , that would give you some idea if the device is even recognized or not
[03:04] <superdave321> xangua: thanks
[03:05] <CryptoAlien> bazhang: Should I change that setting?  The internal IP's are different when connected to the gateway; are you sure?
[03:05] <KM0201> superdave321: but gnome 3 sucks just as bad IMO.. embrace the horror, gotta find a new desktop UI..... even Linus hates Gnome 3.
[03:06] <GhostConn> is there a nforse drive for ubuntu 11:10 i have a asus crosshair motherboard with dual lan but everytime I start up I have to disable both connections and only leave one enabled
[03:06] <GhostConn> can i bridge them both?
[03:06] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, http://pastebin.com/kqxctJPg
[03:06] <superdave321> KM0201: Ya know, i'll just live with it until i find something i like later. Right now I just don't want to deal with unity :P
[03:06] <KM0201> wait till you get a lot of gnome 3,.
[03:07] <nightrid3r> !classic
[03:07] <KM0201> nightrid3r: still only a temporary solution.
[03:07] <MrHanjrah> Jeremy3D: that is after you disconnect and reconnect. right?
[03:07] <GhostConn> gnome 3 is nothing special unless you put the time into making it the way you like it
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, yes sir
[03:07] <Cowsrcool> my roomate just installed 11.10, his laptop has a shitty after-market charger so it drops in-and-out alot, so apperantly hes getting spammed with "battery low" notifications. How do you disable the power management notifcations?
[03:07] <CryptoAlien> bazhang: I just verified I am using a bridged network.
[03:07] <MrHanjrah> Jeremy3D: what is it anyway? camera?
[03:08] <CryptoAlien> bazhang:  I'd like this machine to act as if it were a completely new machine ( Or at least as much as possible )
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, mini dv camera.  iLink to Firewire400
[03:08] <GhostConn> how do you setup a network bridge for two wired connections?
[03:08] <gdea73> can someone please help me with getting my microphone working again?
[03:08] <MrHanjrah> Jeremy3D: i dont see it recognized at all :/
[03:08] <hanasaki> where is the joomla package?
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, ubuntu 11.10 . if i search kernal log i get "Mar 22 07:44:27 jeremy-desktop kernel: [    0.971394] uhci_hcd: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> "
[03:09] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, and that's the only line
[03:09] <angv> I have a strange error.. after seting up RSA authentication only for ssh?  it doesn't work.  It only works if I loginto the console first.. THEN? the ssh with rsa works..   afterwards it always works, until I reset sshd or reboot the machine?.  any idea?
[03:09] <grkblood> #filezilla
[03:10] <MrHanjrah> Jeremy3D: did you had a look here?
[03:10] <MrHanjrah> http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/open-source/76779-video-capture-ubuntu-mini-dv-camcorder-through-ieee-1394-a.html
[03:10] <gdea73> How would I reset ALL settings relating to sound, configuration files, *everything*?
[03:10]  * CryptoAlien is lonely now
[03:11] <proverse> I think I have found a bug, looking for other cases to confirm.
[03:11]  * MrHanjrah will be right back
[03:11] <envision_GT35R> What are some helpful chatrooms for a first time linux/ubuntu user?
[03:11] <proverse> What I am seeing is kernel 3.2.0-18 and above dissallows dhclient from working if apparmor is installed. Using Bodhi 1.3 (ubuntu lucid based) distro
[03:11] <gdea73> How do I get Ubuntu to reinitialize ALL sound devices? Please help me out here :(
[03:12] <proverse> anyone else using that kernel w/ lucid?
[03:12] <proverse> or -19?
[03:12] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, i will try that. ty
[03:12] <nightrid3r> envision_GT35R: this one :)
[03:12] <proverse> gdea73: command line try "pulseaudio -k" and then "pulseaudio
[03:13] <gdea73> proverse: thank you! Yes, I will...
[03:13] <proverse> gdea73: it at least restarts that portion, which is usually enough. logout/in, reboot, etc...
[03:13] <dj_segfault> gdea73: Yes. "puleseaudio -k" then "pulseaudio --start"
[03:13] <gdea73> crap, still no mic in.
[03:13] <gdea73> mic in works temporarily if I force reload *alsa* but if I open any program, it freezes again. The bars are a grayish color and it doesn't accept input.
[03:14] <envision_GT35R> I am having a hard time moving files, recieving error no 13 (permission denied), would like to move files into my python folder any help is appreciated. Thanks
[03:14] <CryptoAlien> Well anyways, anyone know anything about vmware and wifi adapters?
[03:14] <angv> anyone?
[03:14] <ljt> gdea73: can you pastebin the output of dmesg | tail
[03:14] <LargePrime> yes
[03:14] <LargePrime> there are those who know
[03:14] <gdea73> yeah
[03:15] <nightrid3r> envision_GT35R: open a terminal, cd to the dir with the files and type ls -la
[03:15] <gdea73> ljt: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/895974/
[03:16] <gdea73> I didn't see anything relating to audio, ljt.
[03:16] <ljt> gdea73: right
[03:17] <gdea73> I'm kind of frustrated with this. My mic worked. I installed skype. It still worked. I made a Skype call. After which, no mic.
[03:17] <gdea73> now it only works for 5-10 seconds after boot or after a forced reload of alsa. i've removed skype, and reinstalled both alsa and pulseaudio, and the volume indicator
[03:17] <CryptoAlien> gdea73: Do you have a driver for it?
[03:17] <gdea73> CryptoAlien: nope, it worked perfectly before without a specific driver
[03:18] <ljt> gdea73: you mind if i ask what make/model your computer (laptop?) is
[03:18] <CryptoAlien> gdea73: Do you think maybe skype requires a driver for it?
[03:18] <envision_GT35R> nightrider: thanks a huge list popped up that confuses me. I wont waste anytime flooding this channel with noob questions ill just grab a ubuntu book as planned lol..
[03:18] <gdea73> ljt: yeah, it's a Lenovo IdeaPad Z575
[03:19] <gdea73> CryptoAlien: perhaps, but I could care less about Skype now. I've removed it. I just want the microphone to work again, in any other application, i.e. Audacity. Which it doesn't anymore.
[03:19] <nightrid3r> envision_GT35R: the first column contains permissions the 3rd and 4th the owner
[03:19] <proverse> envision_GT35R: don't waste time with printed books, things change fast enough with linux that by the time a book makes it to print it might be way behind the times. Searching forums and blog posts is usually more fruitful
[03:20] <ljt> gdea73: could you post one more thing for me - the output of the following commands (preferably sudo): lspci, lsusb, lshw
[03:20] <dr-willis> gdea73:  test with a newly made user. could be skype set some user spevific audio setting
[03:20] <sacarlson> gdea73: if I recall skype did some auto volume setting so I wonder if it changed some volume setting you don't see?
[03:20] <sta7ic> hello, does anyone know what the effect is called when you minimize the window and it poofs away? i dont think its the same effect as the genie/vacuum effect but i might be wrong?
[03:20] <nightrid3r> envision_GT35R: 3 and 4 should be your username
[03:20] <gdea73> well, whoa that's a flood of responses. Well thanks, first of all.
[03:20] <proverse> envision_GT35R: which folder are you wanting to move into exactly ?   (exact path please)
[03:21] <gdea73> ljt: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/895979/
[03:21] <envision_GT35R> proverse: checking 1 second
[03:21] <gdea73> dr-willis: good call. That's what I was thinking. I will try it next, to see...
[03:21] <gdea73> sacarlson: That's what I'm guessing. I wonder how I can reset ALL audio settings to the defaults. The defaults worked great for me before.
[03:23] <haunguyen> hello
[03:23] <envision_GT35R> proverse: /usr/lib/python2.7    Trying to get my graphics.py into that folder. Error 13 access denied
[03:23] <gdea73> ljt: can you make any sense of that?
[03:23] <haunguyen> asdfsdafsd
[03:23] <haunguyen> asdf
[03:23] <haunguyen> asdf
[03:23] <haunguyen> asdfas
[03:23] <FloodBot1> haunguyen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <flamen> hello
[03:23] <flamen> kakak
[03:23] <gdea73> haunguyen: your keyboard works lol :D
[03:23] <haunguyen> hello
[03:23] <ljt> gdea73: yes - though it looks as if you ctrl-c'd the sudo lshw
[03:23] <ljt> :P
[03:24] <haunguyen> who are chating with me
[03:24] <gdea73> ljt: my bad, I'm a little impatient atm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/895985/
[03:24] <sacarlson> gdea73: I look at my sound on UB 11.10 and I don't see any mixer settings so maybe you need a mixer installed to even see all the settings
[03:24] <bazhang> !ot | haunguyen
[03:24] <cincinnatus> Is there a good free Web-based Linux admin tool that works with Ubuntu? Back in the day, I used Webmin, but it's kinda dated
[03:24] <gdea73> sacarlson: well that's true... but ... what do I install? alsamixergui doesn't do much apparently
[03:25] <bazhang> cincinnatus, zentyal
[03:25] <cincinnatus> thanks
[03:25] <sacarlson> gdea73: I'm not sure I just installed this version, my 10.04 had one but forget name
[03:26] <TylerW> cincinnatus, webmin dated?
[03:26] <gdea73> Also, a somewhat separate issue, my CPU is supposed to "turbo" to 2.4 GHz when under load which it does not. The frequency scaler only has it go to 1.5.
[03:26] <gdea73> now granted it hits ~60C at 1.5 under 100% load so I'm not sure i'm willing to push it, lol
[03:26] <dr-willis> !ebox
[03:27] <cincinnatus> TylerW: Well, it's still supported, but it *feels* like something from the 90s
[03:27] <TylerW> hrm, I LOVE it
[03:27] <bazhang> cincinnatus, its not supported in ubuntu nor debian
[03:28] <TylerW> but, I guess if you're looking at graphics, etc. yeah its old. For me, its whatever gets the job done when I don't have time/am in a position where I can't open an SSH connection
[03:28] <mkultra_> install ssh?
[03:28] <mkultra_> forward ports?
[03:28] <envision_GT35R> proverse: never mind problem solved. Thanks for the advice anyway, looking to learn to program what are you opinions on reading huge texts books then? lol
[03:28] <gdea73> anyway, ljt, any other help you could offer?
[03:28] <gdea73> do you know how I could reset all audio settings?
[03:29] <proverse> same problem. internet is smarter then textbook publishers
[03:29] <nightrid3r> envision_GT35R: that dir is owned by root use sudo mv
[03:29] <TylerW> bazhang, is this stuff worth checking out for age-old webmin users and sys admins who don't hate GUIs like some, lol
[03:30] <mkultra_> i like gui, get's stuff done quick
[03:30] <zykotick9> TylerW: this is #debian's webmin factoid = Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor q
[03:30] <bazhang> TylerW, zentyal? never used webmin or any other, so cannot advise, sorry
[03:30] <cincinnatus> bazhang: They do have a debian package
[03:30] <envision_GT35R> nightrid3r: thanks night! Did a quick google searched and figured it out.
[03:31] <zykotick9> cincinnatus: see above ;)
[03:31] <cincinnatus> bazhang: Also, Ubuntu is listed in supported systems
[03:31] <bazhang> !webmin | cincinnatus
[03:31] <TylerW> mkultra: yes me too; I generally prefer cli for most procedures, but there are a few select procedures I can't stand doing without GUI... and I need to allow some staff to do things that can't type even "ls" and understand whats going on
[03:31] <bazhang> cincinnatus, by webmin perhaps. not by ubuntu nor debian see above
[03:31] <mkultra_> gui to load tons of cli to jump between
[03:31] <gdea73> sorry accidentally closed browser
[03:32] <cincinnatus> bazhang: agreed
[03:32] <gdea73> does anyone know a command to reset all audio related settings?
[03:32] <TylerW> never knew about the potential issues of it... I'm using it on several systems with no problem; again, I only use it for select things, but I might try this zentyal out
[03:32] <cerales> How do I debug an upstart service? I'm trying ot start my service and it just hangs. there's nothign in syslog.
[03:32] <cerales> I'm just trying to 'echo' something and pip eto a file as a test and it doesn't work
[03:33] <sacarlson> gdea73: I just installed gnome alsa mixer, just so I have one, it seems to have settings I've never even seen before like headphone enable
[03:33] <gdea73> sacarlson: I will try that one, thanks.
[03:33] <gdea73> sacarlson: what worries me is that the mic works for a second, and then when accessed by an application, it fails.
[03:33] <CryptoAlien> Hi
[03:34] <bruce> ?
[03:34] <envision_GT35R> Hi how can I check if my video card has been installed onto my computer?
[03:34] <sacarlson> gdea73: oh that doesn't sound like a mixer thing then, i'm not sure
[03:34] <gdea73> envision_GT35R: do you see something on the monitor? :D lol
[03:34] <bazhang> envision_GT35R, check the additional drivers setting
[03:34] <envision_GT35R> gdea73: haha yeah xD, used to windows having to install extra drivers for it to work properly
[03:34] <gdea73> bazhang's right, yeah you will likely need proprietary drivers
[03:35] <gdea73> what's the card? ATi or nVidia?
[03:35] <envision_GT35R> it is an ATI card
[03:36] <gdea73> envision_GT35R, then follow the tutorial for your version of Ubuntu at wiki.cchtml.com. That site is very helpful.
[03:36] <envision_GT35R> @ system info and it reads: Driver VESA:MADISON
[03:36] <envision_GT35R> kk will do
[03:36] <gdea73> I had most success installing Catalyst direct from AMD's site though with their .run autoinstaller.
[03:36] <angv> Hello?   Using RSA authentication, I am offering the right key? using ssh -vv I see that the right key was presented but it doesnt get processed? however after logging in via console, then exactly the same ssh command works? what could be going wrong ?
[03:36] <ljt> gdea73: just found this - http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Solution-for-not-working-microphone-under-Ubuntu-11-10/td-p/298266
[03:36] <gdea73> yeah envision_GT35R, never mind, just install from AMD, it will be a bit easier
[03:36] <envision_GT35R> alright checking it out right now
[03:37] <gdea73> ljt: trying right now, I'm going to be really happy if this works !!
[03:38] <gdea73> ljt: didn't seem to work, I get no audio after running killall, and if I run pulseaudio --start, then no mic again
[03:38] <TylerW> bazhang: can you state exactly what webmin does to screw up Ubuntu? I see forum posts from people claiming they love webmin and that people are saying to use zentyal instead but everyone quotes it does "naughty things" to your system but no one says what...
[03:39] <gdea73> oddly in gnome alsa mixer, the front mic is muted, If I unmute it then I hear its sound replayed in the speakers (but it still isn't really recognized, ,and I only hear clicking really)
[03:39] <bazhang> gdea73, installing from the amd site is not the recommended course of action
[03:39] <gdea73> static
[03:39] <bazhang> gdea73, using jockey is
[03:39] <gdea73> bazhang: well, I guess not. I just found that was the easiest way to get Catalyst 12.2 running.
[03:40] <gdea73> jockey-gtk I thought used the more thoroughly tested drivers, but also older Catalyst revisions. I guess it depends on the recency of thec ard.
[03:40] <gdea73> * the card.
[03:40] <bazhang> gdea73, the package manager is the best course of action.
[03:40] <gdea73> okay ;)
[03:40] <gdea73> ljt: hm, running pulseaudio -D gives me service failed to start
[03:40] <gdea73> Err: main.c: daemon startup failed.
[03:40] <ljt> hmm
[03:40] <gdea73> that's not good.
[03:41] <ljt> did you add the entry to ~/.pulse/client.conf
[03:42] <gdea73> I did try that.
[03:42] <GhostConn> im just starting a susestudio build and im going to build my own os however should i choose kde4 desktop or gnome ?
[03:42] <gdea73> well maybe I should reboot
[03:42] <GhostConn> opinions?
[03:42] <gdea73> ljt: I'm going to reboot, brb.
[03:42] <bazhang> GhostConn, suse? why would you ask here
[03:43] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: kde!
[03:43] <gdea73> GhostConn: Gnome 2 FTW! xD
[03:43] <bazhang> GhostConn, #suse
[03:43] <gdea73> though, in actuality, the correct answer's "whatever suits you best."
[03:43] <gdea73> well, and that, ;)
[03:43] <gdea73> okay brb...
[03:43] <TheSimkin> bazhang: to start a desktop environment war, why else!?
[03:43] <GhostConn> dose kde4 support compiz
[03:43] <bazhang> they probably wont like the polling either
[03:43] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: yes, but kwin is better than compiz.
[03:44] <bazhang> GhostConn, sure but it has its own
[03:44] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: but you can use compiz with any window manager.
[03:44] <GhostConn> thanks guys :)
[03:44] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: err any desktop environment... kwin is seriously better though.
[03:44] <CryptoAlien> For vmware what is the correct network setting to ensure the OS will have it's own internal IP address assigned to it?
[03:44] <TheSimkin> and if you're not using ubuntu why not use gentoo!?
[03:44] <TheSimkin> suse is lame
[03:44] <GhostConn> any of you built your own Os?
[03:44] <TheSimkin> rpm based is lame!
[03:44] <bazhang> TheSimkin, not helping...
[03:45] <TheSimkin> bazhang: i disagree! poor guy is about to do something silly.
[03:45] <bazhang> TheSimkin, GhostConn #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please
[03:45] <WickedWiccan> how do i get my .sh file to automaticly open a terminal when its open instead of it running in the background
[03:45] <GhostConn> kk
[03:45] <angv> can somebody help me with this pls?  http://serverfault.com/questions/372624/why-rsa-ssh-authentication-only-works-after-console-log-in
[03:46] <TheSimkin> WickedWiccan: create a launcher for it and tell it to open in a terminal (tick box i believe)
[03:46] <zykotick9> WickedWiccan: other way around - "gnome-terminal -e /path/to/script.sh"
[03:46] <gdea73> ljt: I was able to run pulseaudio -D after reboot, giving me sound again, but still mic problems.
[03:46] <GhostConn> what about bridging two wired connections in ubuntu 11:10 I have a asus crosshair motherboard which has dual lan
[03:46] <gdea73> The mic showed up in the sound preferences for a few seconds, but then it stopped picking up audio shortly after
[03:46] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: bridging? for what purpose?
[03:47] <netgene> Are my messages being read?
[03:47] <gdea73> then I opened Audacity, which caused the bars in the volume reader to get wider as if disabled, like before. Audacity acted as if the mic was malfunctioning, wouldn't even record blank sound.
[03:47] <sacarlson> WickedWiccan: I think you would add gnometerm in your script
[03:47] <TheSimkin> netgene: no, can't see you at all.
[03:47] <bazhang> netgene, yes
[03:47] <GhostConn> faster connection
[03:47] <netgene> funny..   did you see my ssh question ?
[03:47] <GhostConn> lol
[03:47] <ljt> gdea73: to be honest - it might be quicker/easier/less effort just to reinstall
[03:47] <TheSimkin> netgene: only read the url, it hurt my head.
[03:47] <gdea73> not ... ... not what I wanted to hear :'(
[03:48] <GhostConn> i have two high speed connections in my house
[03:48] <netgene> shoot ..  i hate these type of issues.. please help.
[03:48] <Jeremy3D> MrHanjrah, that didnt work. there is no permissions 40 file in ubuntu 11.10 it seems like
[03:48] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: just plug them both in, it should use the fastest routes
[03:48] <gdea73> I will kill Skype... some day...
[03:48] <GhostConn> in windows i can dl torrents on average (good seeds) around 4-7mbps in linux i get a wapping 1-2mbps with transmission
[03:49] <gdea73> well I'm going to try the new user idea.
[03:49] <sacarlson> WickedWiccan: example : gnome-terminal --geometry=40x20+100+100 -t testnet -x ./multicoind -datadir=/home/sacarlson/.bitcoin/testnet
[03:49] <GhostConn> i have both plugged in but i cant bridge them i can only use one connection with windows i can bridge them
[03:49] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: use ktorrent, enable encryption and don't use the default port. also make sure you're using upnp or open up the ports.
[03:50] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: bridging doesn't make sense in this case, you just want to use both networks.
[03:50] <ljt> gdea73: i just read an article about an issue with microphones - if the volume/gain is too high it can temporarily "break" the mic
[03:50] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: bridging is when you want to take two networks and make them "one" (hence a bridge).
[03:50] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: pretty sure you don't want to be a relay for the two isps :)
[03:51] <GhostConn> i have port forwarding set with my router upnp  is enabled .. ok hears the thing with the nforse drive designed for my motherboard I can either bridge two connections or use one for uploading and one for downloading
[03:52] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: using one for uploading and one for downloading would make the peers think you're a total jerk.
[03:52] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: do what i said, youll get great speeds
[03:52] <WickedWiccan> ok i selected my working directory and in te command spot i put ./example.sh it opens the terminal but says file not found although its clearly there
[03:52] <GhostConn> i dont care like i said i use bitcommet and cheat engine 6.1 and i hit 8mps all day witha  good torrent in linux im hitting tops 2mb
[03:52] <GhostConn> lol i seed everything so no worries
[03:53] <TheSimkin> you're not lisetning
[03:53] <TheSimkin> so i'm going to stop trying
[03:53] <GhostConn> ok ill try ktorrent
[03:54] <GhostConn> its amazing a ssd changed my dl speeds believe it or not
[03:54] <sacarlson> GhostConn: I've bridged two of my ISP connections before and it seemed to work for me, but my other customers on the net  complained so I guess I didn't have it right,  I ended just spliting groups to use each of them
[03:55] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: ssds ARE THE BEST THING EVER
[03:55] <TheSimkin> well, after processors and ram :)
[03:55] <GhostConn> i changed the download directory in transmission i forgot i had bitcommet set to dl everything there
[03:55] <GhostConn> my biggest problem Im runnign linux on a 2tb green series lol
[03:56] <GhostConn> 5400rpm
[03:56] <GhostConn> vs 540mbps wright
[03:59] <gdea73>  aye I really need to figure out this sound/mic problem...
[03:59] <sacarlson> TheSimkin: your right it's not bridging it's Channel Bonding / Link Aggregation is what GhostConn whats I think
[04:00] <gdea73> so in gnome alsa mixer if I unmute it, I hear loopback, but it doesn't record, etc.
[04:00] <sacarlson> gdea73: the record part is the capture settings
[04:00] <mkultra_> use qjackctl
[04:01] <gdea73> sacarlson: but Rec. is checked already, and it didn't seem to do anything
[04:01] <GhostConn> is it possible to run two 7970's in crossfire with ubuntu 11:10
[04:01] <gdea73> mkultra_: what's that?
[04:01] <GhostConn> or should i just stick with the one
[04:01] <mkultra_> qjackctl is like a patch pannel for sound, so u can hook anything to anything
[04:01] <mkultra_> connection board
[04:01] <gdea73> that sounds brilliant at this point...
[04:01] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: crossfire is ATI's version of SLI ?
[04:01] <sacarlson> gdea73: oh there is another setting for mic boost on some sound cards
[04:01] <GhostConn> yes
[04:01] <TheSimkin> GhostConn: sell your ati's and get nvidia :)
[04:02] <GhostConn> NEVER
[04:02] <TheSimkin> i hate ati
[04:02] <GhostConn> lol
[04:02] <gdea73> sacarlson: yeah I saw that. The problem though isn't the volume, it's that I can't actually USE the mic in anything
[04:02] <mkultra_> yes TheSimkin
[04:02] <TheSimkin> they can't write drivers to save their life
[04:02] <TheSimkin> literally.
[04:02] <gdea73> mkultra_: well, I get errors running the app, so I may try that later
[04:03] <gdea73> the problem I have is somewhere between pulseaudio and alsa, not sure where.
[04:03] <GhostConn> i have a gtx 580 it has pretty good benchmarks but nothing compared to my 7970's i can get 68fps all day long
[04:03] <sacarlson> gdea73: without mic boost on my mike I don't hear anything,  but ya you said it works in feed back so that can't be it eather
[04:03] <mkultra_> yeah you gotta set it up
[04:03] <mkultra_> yeah pulse audio and alsa dont play nice
[04:03] <gdea73> sacarlson: well and it's not the boost, it's that it's literally unrecognized as a recording device after a second
[04:04] <gdea73> mkultra_: it worked by default. I installed Skype. it didn't work. I uninstalled Skype. It doesn't work.
[04:04] <mkultra_> make your rig so u can format it on a whim
[04:05] <GhostConn> lol
[04:05] <sacarlson> gdea73: might want to take a peak at what your audio card is with sudo lspci  and see if any others are having problems with it, if you didn't check that already
[04:05] <gdea73> mkultra_: ... I normally would agree to that, but I'm not in the right situation. This is my new laptop, it took me hours of pain and suffering to get the graphics and wireless drivers working, etc., and I'm leaving town tomorrow morning, early ... *pant*
[04:05] <mkultra_> im glad i did that to my laptop, i had to format it like 6 times since i got to school
[04:06] <gdea73> sacarlson: I'm not sure, I think it's an unnamed ATI, i.e. Device 17xx, and the problem is that it *worked* before - Skype changed some stupid setting somewhere and now it doesn't.
[04:06] <gdea73> this is why I want to reset all of the audio settings.
[04:06] <mkultra_> my advice, would be to remove pulse but that causes more problems, no youtube
[04:06] <gdea73> I already removed pulse and alsa and reinstalled them.
[04:06] <gdea73> YouTube playback is basically the difference between this shiny laptop and my 12 year old Inspiron lol
[04:06] <sacarlson> gdea73: take a closer look at sudo lspci and google with added skype in search
[04:07] <gdea73> sacarlson: I've got nothing else to do, but sleep, so I'll give it a shot.
[04:07] <mkultra_> sudo lspci | grep skype
[04:07] <gdea73> mkultra_: nothing, and I already removed Skype
[04:07] <zykotick9> mkultra_: that doesn't make any sense...
[04:07] <gdea73> that too lol
[04:08] <mkultra_> it doesnt make sense to you?
[04:08] <zykotick9> sacarlson: lspci doesn't typically need sudo
[04:08] <gdea73> I believe this is the audio controller: 00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 1714
[04:08] <mkultra_> i copied someone elses comment
[04:08] <sta7ic> for some reason, all my compiz options are grayed out, so i cannot disable/enable but all is working tho, any ideas?
[04:08] <sacarlson> zykotick9: I wasn't sure so I just added it;  I think it's needed for lshw then?
[04:08] <mkultra_> need to install plugins
[04:08] <GhostConn> insall video driver lol
[04:08] <gdea73> wow I'm finding nothing for amd 1714 skype ubuntu, so idk
[04:08] <zykotick9> sacarlson: for lshw yes
[04:08] <mkultra_> you have no plugins or video driver
[04:09] <gdea73> is there nothing else I can do?
[04:09] <TheSimkin> gdea73: you're trying to get skype working with your mic?
[04:09] <gdea73> any command that will purge audio configuration files and regenerate them? that's truly what I need
[04:09] <sacarlson> zykotick9: gdea73: not sure  sudo lshw  ;  adds more info or what maybe look at that too
[04:09] <gdea73> TheSimkin: I'm trying to get my mic back to working status after messing with Skype.
[04:09] <TheSimkin> gdea73: mess with pulseaudio settings yet?
[04:09] <mkultra_> reboot
[04:09] <gdea73> TheSimkin: I tried, to some extent. The mic worked perfectly by default. Skype screwed it up. Removed skype, still problematic.
[04:10] <gdea73> mkultra_: done so multiple times :/
[04:10] <TheSimkin> gdea73: play with pulse audio some more.
[04:10] <TheSimkin> gdea73: that's what i had to do.
[04:10] <WanderingEnder> Does #Ubuntu have an alternative to torrentflux?
[04:10] <TheSimkin> gdea73: i may have actually ended up removing pulseaudio.. i can't quite remember now.
[04:10] <GhostConn> install the default alsa driver lol
[04:10] <gdea73> TheSimkin: as in... what settings? the only mixer I have is the Gnome Alsa one. How do I mess with PulseAudio itself other than removing it?
[04:10] <GhostConn> dont bother with pulse its to buggy
[04:10] <TheSimkin> gdea73: remove pulse audio.. just use also.
[04:10] <sta7ic> gdea73: i downloaded gnome mixer and it had a lot more settings with the mic
[04:10] <gdea73> GhostConn: how do I do that
[04:10] <gdea73> ?
[04:10] <sta7ic> gdea73: was able to fix my mic being muted
[04:10] <TheSimkin> can't remember off hand.. you can google it.
[04:11] <gdea73> And also I'd rather use pulse, but I guess if alsa works
[04:11] <bazhang> !google | TheSimkin
[04:11] <TheSimkin> oh, sorry bazhang
[04:11] <gdea73> sta7ic: it's not even a muting issue though, it's like almost a hardware mute...
[04:11] <GhostConn> sudo alsamixer
[04:11] <gdea73> the "bars" in the sound settings are greyed out
[04:11] <bazhang> gdea73, try padevchooser, pavucontrol
[04:11] <bazhang> GhostConn, no need for sudo with alsamixer
[04:11] <gdea73> I've tried pavucontrol, it hasn't allowed me to do much, and it picks up no audio from the mic
[04:11] <GhostConn> do you have it set to the right output first of all
[04:12] <bazhang> GhostConn, removing pulse is not the recommended course of action
[04:12] <gdea73> ahh, Realtek ALC272...
[04:12] <sta7ic> gdea73: id suggest that alternative mixer, it had a lot more settings for hardware...i have 3 mics plugged in right now, so it got confused with the default
[04:12] <GhostConn> some sound cards by default will set it to hdmi audio
[04:13] <GhostConn> click the volume icon and choose sound settings and tehn output
[04:13] <SBC33> I have a question regarding Gnome3 in Ubuntu 11.10 x64. In Windows apps that I run via WINE, they need the Alt key for combos, but it seems like Gnome intercepts the Alt key. How can I change the Gnome key to something else, like my Windows key?
[04:13] <sta7ic> gdea73: i *think* the package is gnome-alsamixer
[04:14] <GhostConn> lol hear
[04:14] <GhostConn> http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html
[04:15] <GhostConn> easy
[04:15] <gdea73> sta7ic: I've been messing with alsamixer, the closest I get is automatic loopback of the mic on a hardware level
[04:15] <gdea73> GhostConn: update alsa?
[04:15] <GhostConn> what type of mix
[04:15] <GhostConn> mic*
[04:15] <jdmshiz> Hi how can i register an account with freenode so i may post in the python channel?
[04:15] <gdea73> oh god not compiling modules, i'm a bit tired for that
[04:16] <bazhang> !register | jdmshiz
[04:16] <sta7ic> in my startup apps, i see all these services for key storage, key agent, ssh key, but when i authorize snaptic, it doesnt ask me to store like it used to, any ideas?
[04:16] <gdea73> GhostConn: apparently realtek alc272 chipset, and it's  a laptop mic
[04:16] <jdmshiz> !register | jdmshiz
[04:17] <bazhang> jdmshiz, /join #freenode
[04:18] <gdea73> anyway, what I really need to do is reset ALL of the mixer settings, for Alsa and PulseAudio.
[04:18] <gdea73> can I do that? Easily-ish?
[04:18] <gdea73> is there a default conf file for mixers and audio in general... I do not have the time or patience to reformat
[04:20] <SBC33> I have a question regarding Gnome3 in Ubuntu 11.10 x64. In Windows apps that I run via WINE, they need the Alt key for combos, but it seems like Gnome intercepts the Alt key. How can I change the Gnome key to something else, like my Windows key?
[04:21] <bazhang> SBC33, you added the ppa?
[04:21] <bazhang> SBC33, use the super key instead?
[04:21] <SBC33> No idea what "ppa" is.
[04:22] <mkultra_> heh
[04:22] <SBC33> I'm still new to Linux.
[04:22] <bazhang> SBC33, 11.04 does not come with gnome3, you would need to add a package archive for that
[04:22] <SBC33> Hmm, system info (I think) showed gnome3.
[04:22] <srg_> window #defocus
[04:22] <bazhang> not with 11.04, no
[04:23] <bazhang> srg_, /join #defocus
[04:23] <SBC33> 11.10 x64, not 11.04
[04:23] <bazhang> SBC33, use the super key then?
[04:23] <srg_> bazhang: tnx but i
[04:24] <SBC33> How do I "use the super key"?
[04:24] <mkultra_> its the windows key or mac key
[04:24] <bazhang> SBC33, it's the key formerly known as windows
[04:24] <srg_> bazhang: i use irssi and cant figure out how to swich to olready opened channel
[04:25] <SBC33> Yeah, I'd like to use it in place of the Alt key that gnome seems to trap for its own uses. But I don't know how to change it.
[04:25] <bazhang> srg_, /win number
[04:25] <mkultra_> i need a penguin key on a tactile feedback keyboard, actually bind it to something useful
[04:25] <zykotick9> srg_: alt+ numbers, or alt+ arrow also works
[04:25] <bazhang> srg_, there is also channel #irssi for future reference
[04:26] <TylerW> mkultra: macro it to type "rtfm"
[04:26] <SBC33> Hmm, can't find the gnome version in settings. Go figure. Well, whatever default Gnome version comes with 11.10 x64, I'm using. Hated Unity.
[04:26] <TylerW> I hated Unity too, went to Gnome3 and loved it
[04:26] <bazhang> SBC33, yes that it gnome3 with 11.10
[04:27] <mkultra_> i went to xfce
[04:27] <mkultra_> xfce to me is what gnome should of been
[04:27] <ljt> SBC33: which intercept are you talking about?
[04:28] <ljt> QiongRen: re irssi - I had the same problem - you can disable the hotkeys
[04:29] <ljt> now I can just alt+num in irssi
[04:29] <SBC33> For example, in World of Warcraft (an MMO game) being run via WINE, some of my player macros need me to hold the Alt key as I activate the macro. Normally, WoW uses a distinctive custom mouse cursor. When I press Alt and hover over my WoW macros, the cursor changes to some whote figure that looks like a hand with 1 finger extended, the same scheme as gnome mouse cursors I've seen. And WoW doesn't "see" the Alt key being pressed.
[04:30] <QiongRen> zykotick9: nice it works too
[04:30] <SBC33> *white, not whote
[04:35] <ljt> SBC33: alt key is used to grab (and move) windows
[04:36] <ljt> which seems to be the reason why it's being intercepted
[04:36] <Edowardo> Does anyone know of webcam stabilization software/plugin for live feed?
[04:37] <SBC33> Ok, so can I change the "window movement" key to the super key instead?
[04:38] <sta7ic> not sure why all my things are grayed out, still working from what i set it up as, almost like its locked
[04:38] <sta7ic> in my startup apps, i see all these services for key storage, key agent, ssh key, but when i authorize snaptic, it doesnt ask me to store like it used to, any ideas?
[04:38] <ljt> SBC33: you using 11.10?
[04:38] <kesu> join #stellarium
[04:38] <SBC33> Yes, 11.10 x64.
[04:39] <ljt> there you go
[04:39] <ljt> gconftool --set --type string /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier "<Super>"
[04:40] <ljt> run that in a terminal
[04:40] <SBC33> No sudo before it? Do I need to reboot for it to take effect?
[04:40] <ljt> (not as sudo)
[04:40] <ljt> it needs to be run as your username
[04:41] <ljt> and no reboot
[04:41] <SBC33> Ok, the command completed with no errors.
[04:41] <SBC33> Let me load WoW and test it. :-)
[04:42] <ljt> surprised it works thru wine
[04:43] <SBC33> Yay, it works! And yes, WoW runs quite stably via WINE.
[04:44] <SBC33> Thanks for the help, ljt (and others).
[04:44] <ljt> glad I could help :)
[04:45] <SBC33> Saved that command with a short explanation in my notes. Should it still work after I upgrade to 12.04, or if I switch to say Lubuntu's shell? (I'd like to test it out)
[04:46] <andy__> hi, i'm currently having issues with a dvb-s pci card.....
[04:46] <sta7ic> in my startup apps, i see all these services for key storage, key agent, ssh key, but when i authorize snaptic, it doesnt ask me to store like it used to, any ideas?
[04:48] <andy__> i need assistance
[04:48] <shenra> hey guys i have a problem periodically with my usb logitech headset not showing up in sound settings on ubuntu 11.10 64 bit.... but it was working earlier.
[04:48] <SBC33> Andy_, just ask your question and someone will get to you when they can and if they know the answer.
[04:50] <shenra> how can i get it working again (the usb logitech headset) without having to restart my laptop?
[04:51] <andy__> i've built v4l-dvb drivers and pci not recognised i haven't put in a patch yet as there possibly is a workaround...the pci card blocks out the intergrated ethernet mac address yet it shows in gnome
[04:51] <andy__> when i do a lshw -C multimedia command syntax it doesn't show up
[04:52] <ljt> SBC33: upgrade to 12.04 yes, LXDE (lubuntu window manager) no as it's not gnome (it may not even use the alt key) or will have its own way of editing hotkeys
[04:53] <andy__> i've cloned the media_build tree onto disk
[04:53] <andy__> from linuxtv.org
[04:53] <SBC33> Thanks, ljt. Have a good night.
[04:54] <andy__> plus the v4l-dvb drivers
[04:54] <shenra> the logitech usb headset shows up in dmesg. i see no errors but i can not switch in sound settings to use the headset for input/output
[04:54] <ljt> SBC33: cheers you too
[04:55] <andy__> i'm using ubuntu lucid lynx
[04:56] <andy__> lspci -vv shows that the pci card is an ethernet controller
[04:57] <andy__> the card has a sdmc dm1105n chipset onboard
[05:00] <hammommah> hey all i have two seperate x desktops, one for onboard gpu that runs 1 monitor and one for graphics card that runs two monitors. however only one desktop does anything(onboardgpu) other two screens active and i can drag mouse cusor over there but cant do anything with them? how do i lauch desktop session there?
[05:01] <arlink> can i scroll left and right in tmux?
[05:01] <arlink> or in the terminal...
[05:02] <hammommah> anyone?
[05:03] <zykotick9> hammommah: i've heard Unity has issues with 3+ monitors... no real suggestion though - good luck
[05:04] <Jeruvy> I cannot get unity on more than 2 monitors.
[05:04] <zykotick9> ^ see
[05:05] <hammommah> i installed a desktop called awesome and that just picked up all three by default and used as one big desktop but i dont like interface :(
[05:07] <Abhijit> hammommah, ?? what?
[05:07] <zykotick9> Abhijit: awesome is a WM (one i use actually)
[05:08] <Abhijit> ok.
[05:09] <ceradon> wow! just wow!
[05:10] <hammommah> is there anyway to change the layout of my two x sessions in awesome? i wanna switch there positions?
[05:11] <shenra> oh sweet i just found a fix!
[05:14] <mandey> why can't i find ntfsprogs on software center?
[05:15] <FunGoat> Anybody have any luck installing on a MacBook Pro 5,1? EFI giving me all sorts of trouble.
[05:15] <gotmilk> hi
[05:15] <mi3> hello
[05:16] <ubuntu> hi
[05:16] <ubuntu> can someone help me figure out why I ntfsprogs isn't appearing in the software center?
[05:16] <ubuntu> thanks.
[05:18] <wylde> !ntfs | ubuntu
[05:19] <Rookie407> does anyone on here develop android kernels?
[05:20] <mi3> no
[05:23] <FunGoat> Rookie407: May want to check out "#android-dev" here on Freenode.
[05:24] <rhin0> anyone know how I get mame/pacman?
[05:26] <zykotick9> rhin0: you mean puckman ;)
[05:26] <rhin0> packman
[05:26] <rhin0> really I want a clone
[05:27] <CharminTheMoose> Is it possible to force the X server to only use VESA?
[05:27] <subb1> hi all good day
[05:28] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: sure, create an xorg.conf and specify VESA.  (fyi vesa is seriously limited)
[05:28] <shenra> oh.... isn't ALSA the default sound for Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:29] <zykotick9> shenra: yes - with Pulse on top
[05:29] <shenra> i accidnetally swapped the order... its now doing Pulse with an Alsa Container inside
[05:29] <subb1> Suddenly my ubuntu 10.04 laptop installation powerd due to power failure. Now when I reebot, I am able to get the boot menu and after I select it, i get a black screen with a blinkng cursor. Kindly help !
[05:30] <zykotick9> shenra: pulse always uses alsa...
[05:30] <shenra> zykotick9, well i used to be able to configure individual applications in the applications tab but now its all lumped into the ALSA plug-in.
[05:31] <mutouyihao> what's that
[05:31] <shenra> i was having problems getting my logitech headset detected so I killed pulseaudio and restarted it and it showed up.
[05:34] <almoxarife> shenra: I don't think ubuntu an run without 'pulseaudio', kubuntu can live without it, one less process to take cpu time
[05:39] <shenra> almoxarife, ok i see how it works.
[05:40] <shenra> the thing is, Ubuntu wasn't configuring my USB headset anymore and I think Pulseaudio may be the culprit because after i figured out how to kill the process and re run it, i was able to use the headset but with a few minor issues.
[05:45] <Ben64> almoxarife, shenra: ubuntu can work fine with pulseaudio removed
[05:47] <almoxarife> Ben64, try un-installing 'pulseaudio' from ubuntu, it will want to take the kitchen sink with it
[05:47] <Ben64> i have uninstalled pulseaudio, and everything works better without it
[05:48] <shenra> i kinda want Pulseaudio because its recommended for some Wine games i have :/
[05:48] <Ben64> it only causes problems for me, so i remove it on all my systems
[05:49] <airplanesimen> hello! i am trying to install wine in ubuntu (wine 1.3) the newest beta. when i am going to install it says: Unable to install untrusted packages" and it is a loong list. what should i do?
[05:49] <Ben64> airplanesimen: how are you installing it
[05:49] <airplanesimen> from instructions from wine, and when i am going to install, it is in ubuntu-software center
[05:49] <airplanesimen> i have added the ppa key
[05:50] <almoxarife> airplanesimen: you will need to install 'synaptic' or do it via terminal, I suggest 'synaptic'
[05:50] <SBC33> Did you see the note on the WINE site that betas may break apps that run, and not to upgrade unless you had a need?
[05:51] <airplanesimen> no?
[05:51] <sente> hi all. i've just installed truecrypt on ubuntu 10.4 -- it seems /usr/bin/truecrypt needs to be added to the sudoers file for users to mount volumes, the problem is this lets any user mount a truecrypt volume on any path (they could mount/overwrite /etc/apache2, for instance)
[05:51] <CFHowlett> "beta" = not ready for prime time.  Expect problems.  OR use the released version of programs until the beta is released into the stream.
[05:51] <almoxarife> SBC33: its no fun if it doesn't break
[05:51] <airplanesimen> but, it should be possible to install though??
[05:51] <sente> how can I prevent mounting like this?
[05:51] <almoxarife> airplanesimen: you will need to install 'synaptic' or do it via terminal, I suggest 'synaptic'
[05:51] <airplanesimen> yea
[05:52] <airplanesimen> forget it, i tried once more, this time it should work :/ something is wrong xD
[05:52] <airplanesimen> bye
[05:53] <Poindexter_> Question. XUbuntu has changed. It seems to be one of the best bare-bones kernel for my needs. I tried to apt-get update and upgrade and it is no longer supported. Any suggestions?
[05:53] <Ben64> xubuntu isn't a kernel
[05:53] <CFHowlett> ??
[05:54] <Poindexter_> You know what I mean. It is an OS based upon the Linux kernel.
[05:54] <Poindexter_> Anyways.
[05:54] <HarryG> Hey guys
[05:54] <Ben64> xubuntu still exists, so i'm not sure what you mean
[05:55] <jdmshiz> Is there a specific programming language that the ubuntu terminal uses?
[05:55] <Poindexter_> Ben64 the apt-get changed. Lots of the packages are not available.
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> then the repos changed not apt
[05:55] <Ben64> Poindexter_: explain more?
[05:55] <Poindexter_> I was told that there was a discontinuance of the repositories.
[05:56] <aeon-ltd> jdmshiz: not sure what you mean, bash scripts?
[05:57] <jdmshiz> aeon-ltd: Well like as far as commands and stuff goes?
[05:57] <Poindexter_> I was doing a usual apt-get update     upgrade and the repositories error message said: "No longer available."
[05:57] <douglaslucas> With Ocelot on my MacBook Pro7,1 I'm having trouble getting the bluetooth to setup my apple wireless keyboard and apple wireless trackpad. Each appears briefly in the setup dialogue, but disappears, and when I turn on the devices' power, the light goes off after a few seconds. They were working under OS X
[05:57] <douglaslucas> any ideas
[05:57] <jdmshiz> aeon-ltd: is there a specific language that teaches them
[05:58] <Poindexter_> Any suggestions to an alternative Ubuntu OS?
[05:58] <CFHowlett> Poindexter_  full circle: xubuntu is absolutely available.  Try this: what version of ubuntu are you running RIGHT NOW?  What package would you like to install.
[05:59] <waxstone> jdmshiz: bash
[05:59] <Poindexter_> CFHowlett server edition light weight. Any add ons is of choice.
[05:59] <Poindexter_> GUI that is not a PIG.
[06:00] <waxstone> jdmshiz: http://ss64.com/bash/
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> pig?
[06:00] <Poindexter_> I tried the Ubuntu and the GUI looks awefull.
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> Poindexter_: you can change that
[06:00] <Ben64> Poindexter_: type "lsb_release -sc" and paste the result in here
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> Poindexter_: with linux you can change everything
[06:00] <celthunder> Poindexter_: so install and use something else nobody is making you keep crappy uis...
[06:00] <CFHowlett> Poindexter_   if you have server installed and yet you can't see the repositories, I'd suspect your software sources list is improperly configured.
[06:00] <Poindexter_> I know but read that there are lots of controversies on that issue.
[06:01] <aeon-ltd> ...
[06:01] <CFHowlett> Poindexter_   as far as the GUI, xfce4 is the gui for xubuntu.  You might also wish to try lxde, the gui for lubuntu.
[06:01] <Poindexter_> CFHowlett that just may be true. I will take that under advisement.
[06:01] <SBC33> To heck with "controversies", use whatever GUI (or even CLI) that you feel comfortable with. Yours is the only opinion that matters for your system.
[06:02] <alyee> as
[06:02] <alyee> 这里是干嘛的
[06:02] <aeon-ltd> !cn
[06:03] <Poindexter_> I have been working with VBox Virtual Machine and I was considering the latency of the OS on older machines.
[06:03] <Blue1> #debian
[06:03] <alyee> what‘s wrong
[06:03] <Blue1> oopsi
[06:03] <SBC33> Then from what I've heard, LXDE is probably going to be your best bet for a modern GUI.
[06:04] <CFHowlett> Poindexter_   *apt-cache policy lxde* should show that the package is available but not installed.
[06:04] <jdmshiz> waxstone: Thanks
[06:05] <Poindexter_> SBC33 thanks. I just looked at the screenshots. Good work guys. I will check it out.
[06:05] <Free_Bullets> I'm trying to get syslinux to boot an LVM volume. In syslinux.cfg, I set the root to /dev/mapper/vg0-root. When I try booting, it flashes then goes back to the boot menu. Am I doing something wrong? It says it can't find the kernel.
[06:07] <Poindexter_> The Virtual Machine is a 32 bit and I have a lot of older machines that I would like to run with the least amount of CPU latency.
[06:08] <Poindexter_> The problem is that setting up multiple Virtual Linux box's on one Virtual Machine is a challenge.
[06:09] <Poindexter_> The other issue is whether to set up Virtual Machine with Ubuntu as the Host and Windows as the Guest or vice versa.
[06:10] <Poindexter_> Windows always has latency issues.
[06:11] <Poindexter_> Anyways thanks. I am in the process of downloading LXDE to experiment with it.   :)
[06:11] <John_Malik> Hello
[06:11] <CFHowlett> Poindexter_   good luck.
[06:11] <CFHowlett> John_Malik   greetings
[06:14] <Poindexter_> Thanks.  :)
[06:15] <Free_Bullets> As a follow-up to my problem, it turns out I was actually missing my kernel. Fail.
[06:27] <gotmilk> what is your version?
[06:34] <hydrox24> How can I make the backlight on my Toshiba Satellite keyboard turn on in ubuntu/linux without disabling ACPI?
[06:35] <almoxarife> hydrox24: have you looked at the install's avail for toshibas ?
[06:35] <rhin0> im watching "zeitgeist"
[06:36] <rhin0> about federal reserve etc
[06:36] <CFHowlett> !ot|rhin0
[06:36] <rhin0> oops
[06:36] <rhin0> wrong channel
[06:36] <rhin0> sorry
[06:36] <hydrox24> install's acail?
[06:37] <hydrox24> almoxarife: can you elaborate?
[06:37] <almoxarife> !info toshset
[06:39] <hydrox24> when I run toshset it gives me:
[06:39] <hydrox24> required kernel toshiba support not enabled
[06:39] <hydrox24> Does that mean I need to compile my own kernel?
[06:40] <almoxarife> hydrox24: should not have to
[06:41] <almoxarife> !info acpi-support
[06:41] <almoxarife> hydrox24: do you have that installed?
[06:41] <hydrox24> FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/3.0.0-16-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device
[06:43] <hydrox24> I tried modrpobing toshiba_acpi
[06:51] <sente> question about truecrypt/mounting related to mount-point permissions -- http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/34816/14810
[06:51] <foo376> Hello
[06:52] <foo376> I need to temporarily disable my graphics card...
[06:53] <foo376> could I for example disable the kernel module?
[06:56] <almoxarife> foo376: you mean run the onboard instead/?? bios switch?
[06:57] <Chipzzz> foo376: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:02] <fanxianglong> hello
[07:02] <fanxianglong> ssssd
[07:03] <foo376> I'm currently using the proprietary nvidia driver for the graphics card, 'lspci -k' tells the following: "vga compatible controller: nvidia corp..." cont. "kernel driver in use: nvidia, kernel modules: nvidia, nidiafb, nouveau"
[07:03] <Guest83015> hello friends, im runing lubuntu 11.10 @ 3% cpu and 250mb ram at idle. when i use vcl for movies cpu jumps to 80% is that normal?
[07:04] <foo376> I've tried this approach (/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist) http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/avoid-linux-kernel-module-driver-autoloading.html
[07:04] <foo376> I added "blacklist nvidia" and rebooted, but the lspci -k shows no difference
[07:04] <theadmin> foo376: Files in modprobe.d MUST end in .conf, or else they are ignored
[07:05] <linuxuz3r> when is the next ubuntu release?
[07:05] <theadmin> linuxuz3r: 12.04, meaning month 4 (April), year 12 (2012).
[07:06] <satyanash> does irssi have highlighting for different nicks ?
[07:06] <theadmin> foo376: So, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf for example. And I think the module name is "nvidia-current"
[07:07] <theadmin> satyanash: Sure, /hilight KEYWORD and every message with KEYWORD will be highlighted (with yellow by default)
[07:07] <foo376> theadmin: I used the .run file from nvidias website
[07:08] <theadmin> foo376: Oh that, I have no idea what it calls it's module. I try to avoid grabbing stuff from outside of the repos. Sorry
[07:08] <satyanash> theadmin, no, I meant how the every nick is highlighted by a different color automatically in clients like Xchat. Only the nick not the message. It helps for easy parsing.
[07:08] <foo376> theadmin: no problem, would you happen to know how I can check the module name?
[07:08] <theadmin> satyanash: Ah that, hm... I think it should be possible, but
[07:08] <theadmin> foo376: lsmod | grep nvidia # Something like this
[07:11] <theadmin> satyanash: http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/nickcolor.pl
[07:13] <satyanash> theadmin, aah.. thank you.
[07:14] <Stelpa> i am loving 11.10 so far, and so far i only have 1 real issue... i have my laptop set to lock when it is closed. this feature works fine; i open my laptop, it says to enter my password, i type it, and click "unlock" and i am back where i was. the only odd thing is, for some reason, the wallpaper in the background of that screen is the wallpaper i had a week ago; that is, i changed my wallpaper since then, but it is still displaying the same one.
[07:15] <douglaslucas> I'm having trouble getting Bluetooth to work in Ocelot :(
[07:16] <chen> join #ubuntu-cn
[07:18] <chen> join #ubuntu-cn
[07:18] <theadmin> chen: You're missing a /
[07:19] <Kartagis> !undelete
[07:19] <Blue1> !ubuntu 12.04 download
[07:19] <chen> theadmin, thinks
[07:20] <Blue1> okay the hardway then
[07:21] <[[thufir]]> how do I add netbeans to that strange new panel on the LHS with big icons?  I start NB from the CLI, as it doesn't show in an GUI.  script as so:  https://gist.github.com/2167910
[07:22] <foo376> if I just rename the kernel module file I want to temporarily disable, and then reboot, what will happen? :)
[07:23] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[07:23] <foo376> Ben64: disabling the kmod 'nvidia' for a while
[07:23] <Ben64> why
[07:23] <foo376> debugging
[07:24] <Ben64> rmmod nvidia? :|
[07:25] <foo376> but if I do that, will I be able to bring it back (with ease)?
[07:25] <Ben64> modprobe nvidia
[07:25] <maulwurf> good morning. how can one tell ubuntu to do the same as "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off" does on startup. my wlan card doesnt work in battery mode, as it goes into battery saving mode, which i have to disable every time.
[07:27] <geek_> hi when i run bleachbit i get this error: /home/geek/.config/chromium/Default/Favicons is version 5
[07:27] <geek_> what does that mean?
[07:27] <geek_> thanks
[07:32] <jack_> hello?
[07:33] <vlt> !ask | jack_
[07:34] <jack_> hello everyone
[07:37] <Stelpa> repeating this: i am loving 11.10 so far, and so far i only have 1 real issue... i have my laptop set to lock when it is closed. this feature works fine; i open my laptop, it says to enter my password, i type it, and click "unlock" and i am back where i was. the only odd thing is, for some reason, the wallpaper in the background of that screen is the wallpaper i had a week ago; that is, i changed my wallpaper since then, but it is still displaying the
[07:37] <Stelpa>  same one.
[07:39] <Stelpa> can someone please help me?
[07:39] <maulwurf> anybody here knows how to "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off" on startup? my wlan doesn't work without this in battery mode and i have to stop power saving every time i reboot
[07:41] <[[thufir]]> what's the name of that new panel on the left with large icons?
[07:44] <mikubuntu> installed lubuntu-desktop alongside my ubuntu, but i can't seem to find any wireless network option -- doesn't lubuntu support wireless?  had to log back in with gnome to get here
[07:44] <CFHowlett> mikubuntu   of course it does.
[07:45] <mikubuntu> CFHowlett: can't find it
[07:45] <CFHowlett> mikubuntu  seems your new desktop environment didn't "catch" your network manager app for you.  You can add it manuall
[07:45] <CFHowlett> *add a shortcut* manually
[07:46] <mikubuntu> CFHowlett: ummmmm, can you tell me how?
[07:46] <CFHowlett> mikubuntu   working on it ...
[07:47] <CFHowlett> mikubuntu   the default network manager *IS* gnome, so I was wrong, you were right.  My sincere apologies.
[07:47] <CFHowlett> nm-applet = network-manager-gnome We need to find the lubuntu equivalent
[07:47] <mikubuntu> CFHowlett: i should have taken a screenshot of what i found -- just a 'network' line in the preferences, but it didn't have the typical wired and wireless options
[07:48] <mikubuntu> CFHowlett: thats GREAT, cause i'm NEVER right about anything .. lol
[07:49] <mikubuntu> CFHowlett: i notice in lubuntu, that resolution seems eroded
[07:49] <CFHowlett> mikubuntu   in about 10 minutes, I'lll lose my connection, so here's what I suggest; search for "lubuntu wifi"
[07:50] <mikubuntu> ok, thx CFHowlett
[07:52] <mikubuntu> CFHowlett: looks like other people have probs with wireless lubuntu also ... guess i'll leave it be for now
[07:52] <CFHowlett> maybe "configure lubuntu wifi"
[07:53] <foo376> I've got a computer running ubuntu 10.04, I'm trying to do some debugging that requires switching kmods for the graphics card on/off
[07:54] <foo376> there's two kernel versions available to boot on startup xxxx.39 and xxx.38
[07:54] <foo376> on xxx.39 I've got nvidias kmod running
[07:54] <foo376> but on xxx.38 I've got nothing
[07:54] <metalmac> Hi i have a question
[07:55] <foo376> could I use nouveau on xxx.38
[07:56] <metalmac> can I use flash, and look at all the movie files in ubuntu, and is it posible to burn cds and dvds out of the box?
[07:57] <fidel> metalmac: buring should work out of the box
[07:57] <fidel> flash should work as well - while adobe doesnt really love your platform ;)
[07:58] <bananasdoom> how do you shutdown your pc to s5
[07:58] <maulwurf> flash and all movies - not out of the box. but ubuntu pulls codecs and flash with first internet establishment. and then it works flawless. burning however is absolutely no problem
[07:58] <CFHowlett> bananasdoom   sudo init5
[07:58] <metalmac> @fidel: okej thanks, can I listen to mp3 in ubuntu to, I want to try out ubuntu, but I am afraid I will destroy my windows 7 setup
[07:58] <bananasdoom> thanks <CFHowlett
[07:59] <CFHowlett> metalmac   boot live cd = zero risk unless you install ubuntu
[07:59] <CFHowlett> metalmac   better yet, install virtualbox in windows, install ubuntu to virtualbox
[07:59] <fidel> metalmac: then use the live-cd and take a first look
[07:59] <maulwurf> metalmac: the mp3 player in ubuntu will get the codecs for you and then it is no problem
[08:00] <metalmac> @CFHowlett: okej thanks
[08:00] <metalmac> I will try the live cd
[08:00] <fidel> ubutu should cover most pc-user-areas right now without any problems - generally spoken
[08:00] <fidel> have fun testing
[08:00] <metalmac> thanks
[08:00] <fidel> metalmac: another testing-scenario would be using a virtual machine
[08:00] <fidel> in case you are used to that approach
[08:01] <foo376> I've got a computer running ubuntu 10.04, I'm trying to do some debugging that requires switching kmods for the graphics card on/off
[08:01] <foo376> there's two kernel versions available to boot on startup xxxx.39 and xxx.38
[08:01] <foo376> on xxx.39 I've got nvidias kmod running
[08:01] <foo376> but on xxx.38 I've got nothing
[08:01] <MrBusiness> I'm getting a bit tired of the amorphous purple and orange lights behind Ubuntu's greeter. Whereabouts do I need to go in order to change that background image for the greeter?
[08:01] <foo376> could I install nouvaeu on xxx.38 without messing things up?
[08:02] <fidel> MrBusiness: might depends on the greeter intself. are you using lightdm right now?
[08:02] <fidel> so ask yourself - what are you using (i.e. gdm vs lightdm vs kdm etc) - then check how to modify it
[08:02] <MrBusiness> alrighty
[08:07] <bananasdoom> CFHowlett it returned "sudo: init5: command not found"
[08:10] <altabq> hello world, a laptop i set up with ubuntu 10.10 has ran into an issue i can't find fix for. at random occasion, but mostly when logging in after standby, the screen backlight would fail, so the display is black. the system is still running smoothly, but the screen is black
[08:10] <altabq> i did a google search but couldn
[08:10] <altabq> 't find anything..
[08:11] <sandGorgon> hi guys, I want to understand how to set a few compiz and appearance configuration FROM THE CMDLINE - I need to deploy linux to about 20 machines and I dont want to go about clicking after each install. Its too small to go more sophisticated solutions (like kickstart, etc.). For example, how do you set launcher icon size to 32 ?
[08:13] <greenit> hi, i have openshot 1.4.0 and blender 1.62, i changed the path in openshot from "blender" into "/usr/bin/blender", but when i want to make an animated title, it says "you need to use blender 1.56 or higher" and "No frame was found in the output from Blender" ... how can i fix this?
[08:13] <nibbler_> sandGorgon, some easy way might be to go to the configuration directory, put all into a source management system like hg/mercurial or git. then to your changes, and the display the diff/patch. in mercurial: hg init .; hg add *; hg commit -mfoo -uuser; -- make changes --; hg diff
[08:14] <shenra> how do i turn off ubuntu's orange bubbles that move a window when i dont want it to feature?
[08:15] <foo376> Hello, it seems like the nouveau drivers are installed, but not used. How do I make them being used?
[08:16] <nibbler_> sandGorgon, if the systems are all identically configured, you can just apply the patch then...
[08:16] <altabq> foo376, as far as i know, go to system-administration-proprietary drivers and activate them there
[08:16] <theadmin> altabq: Noveau is not propertiary.
[08:17] <theadmin> Or whatever is the right spelling, still
[08:17] <altabq> additional drivers* is the name
[08:17] <Kartagis> 	hi
[08:18] <Kartagis> I am running test disk to recover data, but it doesn't list my current/lost fs
[08:18] <Kartagis> testdisk*
[08:21] <bananasdoom> how do you shutdown your pc to s5, I had someone inthe ubuntu irc tell me to use sudo init5  but it returened sudo: init5: command not found
[08:21] <theadmin> bananasdoom: Ubuntu does not use runlevels, also you need a space after "init"
[08:21] <shenra> can someone tell me how to turn off ubuntu's litle orange bubble that move windows thing?
[08:22] <john38> Is it just me or does ubuntu 10.04 not support widescreen during boot splash
[08:22] <john38> screen
[08:23] <bananasdoom> I need it to shutdown to s5 so i can wake on lan, so how do i make sure that it goes to s5 not s6
[08:24] <pupuser481cc4> john38, hahaha, you are still using 10.04!?
[08:24] <john38> pupuser481cc4, most stable version IMO
[08:24] <pupuser481cc4> the best joke of today
[08:25] <john38> will Precise support widescreen during splash
[08:25] <john38> without borders
[08:25] <pupuser481cc4> it can't be stable if you don't patch it
[08:25] <pupuser481cc4> but if you patch your ubuntu, i might be broken
[08:26] <pupuser481cc4> this is the problem
[08:26] <auronandace> pupuser481cc4: what are you blathering on about? 10.04 is a lts release
[08:26] <pupuser481cc4> i can't wait... ubuntu 12.04 is coming
[08:26] <john38> hell yeah
[08:27] <pupuser481cc4> cheers!
[08:28] <geirha> john38: 12.04 questions are better asked in #ubuntu+1
[08:28] <john38> ok
[08:33] <Kartagis> I am running testdisk to recover data, but it doesn't list my current/lost fs. what to do?
[08:33] <auronandace> Kartagis: restore from backups
[08:34] <Kartagis> auronandace: restore what from backups?
[08:34] <auronandace> Kartagis: your inmportant data
[08:34] <diverdude> In my /etc/hosts i have 127.0.0.1 mysite.dev. But this is only working when im online. If im offline and write mysite.dev in the browser i cannot load the page even though it points to 127.0.0.1. Why is that?
[08:34] <auronandace> important
[08:35] <Kartagis> auronandace: yeah, I'll do that from now on, but what to do now in my case?
[08:36] <diverdude> auronandace: you think my question is important?
[08:36] <auronandace> Kartagis: i don't know, never used testdisk, i just extol the virtue of backing up important data
[08:36] <Kartagis> auronandace: http://grab.ozses.net/cuxy lists my options
[08:37] <auronandace> diverdude: sorry, just correctng my previous typo before you joined
[08:37] <diverdude> auronandace: ohh okay...but my question is of course also important right ;)
[08:38] <geirha> diverdude: does  ip addr show   show the lo device?
[08:38] <error4o4> installed ubuntu on VirtualBox but I'm not in the sudoers file.  Booted into recovery mode, but when trying to change any file it says Read Only Filesystem. Any idea?
[08:38] <auronandace> Kartagis: what partition table was it on?
[08:38] <theadmin> error4o4: mount -o remount,rw /
[08:38] <theadmin> error4o4: Then change the file, "sync ; mount -o remount,ro / ; reboot -f"
[08:39] <Kartagis> auronandace: you mean fs? reiserfs
[08:39] <error4o4> theadmin: thx, I'll try
[08:39] <auronandace> Kartagis: no, partition table layout, just a normal ms-dos layout or was it efi (like in a mac)
[08:40] <theadmin> error4o4: Also, by default the group "admin" is in the sudoers file, which you, by default, should be in
[08:40] <Kartagis> auronandace: no idea
[08:40] <error4o4> theadmin: thx, yes I added the user to the group now
[08:41] <auronandace> Kartagis: what type of computer is it?
[08:41] <auronandace> Kartagis: what was installed on it?
[08:41] <theadmin> error4o4: Good then
[08:42] <Kartagis> auronandace: it is connected via USB at the moment, I was using it as storage
[08:42] <Kartagis> auronandace: no os, just the fs
[08:42] <error4o4> theadmin: thx. it helped. everything all right now.
[08:43] <auronandace> Kartagis: the most likely partition layout you had was probably ms-dos, so pick intel/pc
[08:48] <nVee> hey guys, I am unable to connect to a ssh server using the terminal window, I am 100% convinced I am getting the syntax wrong. I only get a blank pointer after trying to connect (with no errors). The command I am trying is "ssh username@servername"
[08:49] <rumpe1> nVee, the syntax is correct. Maybe there's a problem with the login-shell on the server.
[08:49] <nVee> rumpe1: I am however able to connect using putty on windows
[08:49] <nVee> it earlier asked me to save the key, which I said yes
[08:49] <nVee> but after that it was history haha
[08:50] <nVee> sorry, i mean if i wanted to continue connecting
[08:51] <dubaco> is there a ubuntu system recovery disk?
[08:51] <nVee> nevermind
[08:51] <nVee> it literally just took a hour haha
[08:53] <foo376> Hello, it seems like the nouveau drivers are installed, but not used. How do I make them being used?
[08:54] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, just wondering, but is it possible to Ubuntu (/other distro), and have virtual machine software running Windows which can interface directly with my hardware?
[08:54] <linux> hello
[08:54] <linux> people
[08:54] <fidel> Mayazcherquoi: can you explain what you mean by "interface with hardware"
[08:54] <linux> please wisit http://bit.lannur.ru/video-online-is-7066.html
[08:55] <fidel> there are ways to i.e. access a real gfx-card - but thats pretty special and not the usual case
[08:55] <linux> onli test
[08:55] <fidel> .ru ole
[08:55] <linux> ole
[08:55] <linux> hi =)
[08:55] <Mayazcherquoi> fidel: e.g. (I think) a lot of Virtual Machines act as middleware, and the guest OS has to try to interface with the software. I want to remove that barrier, and just let Windows use outright its own drivers for my graphics card.
[08:55] <linux> go to testing my web suite
[08:56] <Mayazcherquoi> fidel: I've heard from a friend that VirtualBox can do such a thing, but I am not too sure on that. Hence why I came here for confirmation :)
[08:56] <fidel> Mayazcherquoi: so 2 os'es should access the same hardware at the same time?
[08:56] <Mayazcherquoi> fidel: Essentially, yes. Although, not a hard drive, of course.
[08:56] <szal> Mayazcherquoi: virtual machines don't interact directly w/ the hardware by definition
[08:56] <Mayazcherquoi> szal: Okay, so guessing my friend was wrong then :P Cheers :)
[08:57] <Mayazcherquoi> Is it possible, in some way, though?
[08:57] <fidel> and in special cases - when they do access real hardware - then the other /real os doesnt use that hardware
[08:57] <szal> Mayazcherquoi: if you hope to run a Windows gfx driver in Linux this way, then definitely not
[08:57] <Mayazcherquoi> szal: Am I correct in presuming that there is another way? :s
[08:57] <linux> <[ fidel ]> --> friend
[08:57] <fidel> but yeah it is possible to have a virtual windows with a real 3d gfx-card as example. but its a hell of messing around - using psecific soft & hardware
[08:58] <szal> Mayazcherquoi: yes, running the Linux driver ;)
[08:58] <linux> <[ fidel ]> --> vasit 1 link
[08:58] <Mayazcherquoi> fidel: Ah okay. Too much work then for such a little thing :P
[08:58] <Mayazcherquoi> Cheers guys :)
[08:59] <asdasdasdaha> Hey, anyone there?
[09:00] <here> Yeah, I am here!
[09:00] <asdasdasdaha> I got a question about ubuntu.
[09:00] <here> Yeah, go ahead.
[09:00] <asdasdasdaha> Why is it so perfect?
[09:00] <here> I don't know... I don't know.
[09:01] <linux> hey russia
[09:01] <TestAgain> Hey
[09:01] <szal> !ru
[09:02] <linux> áëÿ
[09:02] <linux> íåóæåëè íèêîãî íåòó ñ ðîññèè
[09:02] <koma> Hi :-) I'm currently trying to get to the roots of a kernel panic (most pages found by google point to btrfs). Now I noticed that indeed the btrfs module is loaded, even though I don
[09:03] <koma> 't use it at all. This happens, because os-prober ran during the night, but I can't find a cronjob for it. Is it expected that os-prober runs by itself sometimes ? (this is on ubuntu server 10.04)
[09:05] <LarsN> If I'm seeing in /var/log/syslog:  [Hardware Error]: Run the message through 'mcelog --ascii' to decode
[09:05] <LarsN> what are the most likely causes?
[09:07] <linux> fucker
[09:08] <linux> sorry
[09:08] <woozly> Guys, why Update Manager Faildet to update on these packets? http://paste.ubuntu.com/896171/
[09:09] <woozly> so strange...
[09:09] <woozly> Ubuntu 11.10
[09:09] <fidel> nout found ;)
[09:09] <fidel> *not found*
[09:09] <woozly> but wtf ?? :/
[09:09] <woozly> why? hm.. what to do? how to update chrome, codecs..
[09:09] <fidel> cause they arent available at that apt-repo you are using?
[09:10] <geirha> woozly: update the package lists (sudo apt-get update)
[09:10] <woozly> geirha, okay! I'll try
[09:11] <fidel> then try to rerun: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:11] <sacarlson> LarsN: sound like a mem error problem http://www.mcelog.org/
[09:11] <linux> rm -rf
[09:11] <ome> How do I remove all the APT index files ? or in other words, where is the APT index files ?
[09:11] <ome> I want to force reload all of them.
[09:12] <ome> Echo ?
[09:13] <szal> !patience | ome
[09:13] <ome> szal: wasn't sure if my client works fine. cheers.
[09:13] <ChristW> I'm looking for the 'pamrubber' or 'pamperspective' tools that come with netpbm. pamrubber was added in Feb. 2011. When I apt-get update netpbm, it says that my version is latest. Is there a newer version of the netpbm tools available somewhere?
[09:14] <szal> ChristW: newer than what? and for what OS version?
[09:14] <ChristW> My Ubuntu version is the latest.
[09:14] <szal> !info pamrubber
[09:15] <ChristW> !info pamperspective
[09:15] <ChristW> Interesting :-(
[09:19] <ChristW> So, I guess I'll have to try building from source, then.
[09:19] <ChristW> szal: ^
[09:20] <szal> no idea, I know neither netpbm nor its components
[09:20] <szal> !ppa | ChristW
[09:21] <Can> Testing it
[09:21] <Can> Oh yeah, works!
[09:22] <ChristW> szal: Unfortunately, neither 'netpbm', nor 'pbm' nor 'pamrubber' yields any results.
[09:23] <LarsN> sacarlson: thanks for verifying what i suspected & the link.  Very helpful
[09:23] <LarsN> raising a ticket for the Datacenter guys to go diagnose and replace the ram :)
[09:23] <airplanesimen> how to enable proxy-settings in apt.conf file? what is the lyout?
[09:23] <airplanesimen> http proxy
[09:24] <LarsN> airplanesimen: one second I'll look at mine.
[09:24] <airplanesimen> k
[09:25] <airplanesimen>  found out, btw thanks! :D
[09:25] <airplanesimen> bye
[09:25] <Onkeltem> hi
[09:25] <ChristW> szal: Found the source: http://www.schaik.com/netpbm/rubber/
[09:26] <linux> Tell me, have such a program for ubuntu that records video and audio from the screen (you need to record a conversation with Skype)
[09:26] <gunfire007> my sound doesnt work at all. But when i insert the power to charge my netbook i hear playback sound for about 2 sec
[09:27] <gunfire007> i have googled it but no use
[09:27] <gunfire007> :(
[09:29] <fidel> linux: check apt for 'recordmydesktop'
[09:29] <fidel> one of several options
[09:29] <linux> <[ fidel ]> --> ì
[09:29] <linux> <[ fidel ]> --> and, where
[09:29] <gunfire007> linux: ffmpeg
[09:29] <fidel> or check apt for 'record & desktop' to get a longer list
[09:30] <linux> I'm from Russia ;_
[09:30] <fidel> linux: using apt ;)
[09:30] <fidel> there is no connection between your question and countries ;)
[09:30] <linux> apt-get install ffmpeg&
[09:30] <linux> apt-get install ffmpeg?
[09:30] <fidel> !.ru | linux
[09:31] <prashant_123456> i have two audio out connected to my computer one is headset and other is speakers but when i play music both play sound can i switch to one only ????
[09:31] <gunfire007> prashant_123456: type pavucontrol in terminal and adjust the settings
[09:32] <prashant_123456> gunfire007, i want to use single one and another time i want to use another one
[09:32] <linux> *** You can not say anything here!: (# Ubuntu-ru
[09:32] <prashant_123456> gunfire007, it says no program installed
[09:32] <szal> !register | linux
[09:33] <gunfire007> then find out which one are you using alsa,oss or pulseauio
[09:34] <prashant_123456> gunfire007, how to find it
[09:34] <szal> *buntu runs on ALSA + Pulseaudio by default.. is OSS (v4) even available?
[09:34] <szal> if you don't know, then you're most probably running the former
[09:35] <prashant_123456> szal, how to find it
[09:35] <linux> so tell me what you need to install
[09:35] <fidel> linux: for what now?
[09:35] <prashant_123456> linux, audio seperator for front and rear
[09:35] <fidel> we mentioned one recording software already and a way to get a biger list
[09:36] <prashant_123456> szal, ?
[09:36] <linux> Need a program on ubuntu that records video from the screen, I have written on Skype video conversation with the sound, there is in nature?
[09:36] <fidel> linux: recordmydesktop is one option
[09:36] <moska> hi,all
[09:36] <Tao> hi
[09:37] <linux> <[ fidel ]> --> I do not understand what you mean
[09:37] <linux> write specifically
[09:37] <fidel> linux: open terminal and enter: apt-cache search record desktop
[09:37] <fidel> linux: check the output of apt
[09:37] <asdf__> ahahahahah
[09:37] <fidel> linux: which should be a list of packages
[09:38] <fidel> linux: read the package-descriptions and pick one which sounds like it fits your needs
[09:38] <fidel> linux: then install it using: sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[09:38] <linux> Now understand, thank you
[09:38] <fidel> and play a bit with apt/aptitude to get used to the basics
[09:38] <fidel> as it is somehow one of the important things to know
[09:39] <fidel> otherwise you will most likely fail over time and end up with problems you are not able to fix yourself
[09:41] <moska> who can tell me what is the default directory of mailx ?
[09:44] <ome> Still no answer, where is the aptitude index files kept ? and how would I force reload them - delete ?
[09:46] <woozly> geirha, thank you! apt-get update helps!
[09:48] <szal> !search cache
[09:48] <jelly> Hello, on 10.04.4 after a reboot I cannot log in via gdm.  With a fresh user, getting "/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256" at login time and it fails as well.
[09:52] <ome> `/var/lib/apt/lists/` if anyone else was wondering.
[09:54] <ajbaby> phajoe
[09:54] <ajbaby> hello
[09:54] <ajbaby> how are you doing
[09:54] <meet> in gnome 3, all status indicator icons like pidgin or clementime integration are hidden at the right bottom screen. I am not able to get them at the top besides the time date or poweroff icons. what can i do?
[09:56] <paolob> Hi guys! I want to print many copies with evince, but it only permits me a maximum of 100 copies. Is there a way to raise that value? thank you!
[09:58] <nabda> bin ich schun drinne
[09:58] <koma> well, a different question: does anyone have an idea what's the cause of this kernel panic ? http://pastebin.com/sYQqjDPe ... I tried googling, but I am not able to find anything useful ...
[09:59] <nabda> ich suche einen deutschsprachigen support chat
[09:59] <llutz> !de
[09:59] <nabda> thx ubonttu
[10:00] <ashmew2> hi . 8i have a linux machine which is connected to internet via a proxy. How can i make it tunnel.traffic ?  . . i mean for example.connecting my phone to ubuntu system and use internet on phone.via the ubuntu system. . ? Thanks
[10:00] <ab5> need help for setup wireless. wired works now
[10:01] <ab5> cd download/wireless-driver
[10:01] <ab5> make
[10:01] <ab5> sudo make install
[10:01] <ab5> all done
[10:01] <FloodBot1> ab5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <ab5> what's next ?
[10:03] <ab5> now i have: wl.ko and wl.o in the directory, what to do next ?
[10:05] <ab5> anyone here ?
[10:07] <hiexpo> hi i tried to install ninja and got and error so tried to remove it and now get removal error > can i get help to remove this app thanks
[10:10] <aseptilena> Hi
[10:11] <rails_learner> when I try installing postgresql in my ubuntu using the command  sudo apt-get install postgresql I get the following error
[10:11] <rails_learner> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done postgresql is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 90 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?  Setting up firmware-b43-installer (4.150.10.5-5) ... Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e
[10:12] <rails_learner> please help me with the issue
[10:13] <hiexpo> never mind i got it
[10:14] <rails_learner> hiexpo: ^^
[10:15] <Marta> olaaa
[10:15] <hiexpo> had to edif the /etc/init.d/ninja file so i could remove it
[10:15] <rails_learner> Marta: need help
[10:16] <Marta> HABLAME EN ESPAÑOO
[10:16] <Marta> ke tal estas
[10:16] <yati> how to echo from one tty to other?
[10:16] <Hans_Henrik> i need to recursively from current dir find every file that contain the word "thais" ; any idea how i can do that?
[10:16] <Marta> yes yes
[10:16] <rails_learner> when I try installing postgresql in my ubuntu using the command  sudo apt-get install postgresql I get the following error [15:41] <rails_learner> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done postgresql is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 90 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk sp
[10:17] <rails_learner> Hans_Henrik: Marta ^^
[10:17] <Marta> ke me cuentas
[10:17] <Fuchs> !es > Marta
[10:17] <Marta> ok
[10:18] <llutz> Hans_Henrik: grep -r thais /path/*
[10:18] <rails_learner> Marta: Please help me solve the issue above
[10:18] <Hans_Henrik> thank you
[10:18] <rails_learner> llutz: ^^
[10:18] <Marta> your welcom
[10:19] <rails_learner> Marta: u there?
[10:19] <Marta> no I don arent
[10:19] <Hans_Henrik> any way to make this cAsE-insensetive? grep -r thais /path/*
[10:20] <rails_learner> Marta: could u help me pls
[10:20] <llutz> !patience | rails_learner address the channel not users and wait if someone is willing to help
[10:20] <Marta> what is your favourite colour
[10:20] <zykotick9> Hans_Henrik: grep -i is case insensitive
[10:20] <llutz> Hans_Henrik: grep -ri (man grep)
[10:20] <Hans_Henrik> thanks
[10:20] <Marta> your welcom
[10:21] <rails_learner> llutz: ubottu I know mates.. I am sorry.. tried on ubuntu forums and google a lot but not working
[10:21] <Marta> is your pussy very open?
[10:21] <niko> !es
[10:21] <Marta> olaa niko
[10:21] <Marta> buy
[10:23] <it> addy20020
[10:23] <it> helo is any body here
[10:23] <Guest57795> hey sysdoc
[10:23] <llutz> Hans_Henrik: something like "grep -Eri '\bthais\b'  /path/*"  to make sure it finds only lines with "thais" as a word and not part of a longer word (if that matters)
[10:23] <rails_learner> it: yes
[10:23] <Guest57795> hello how r u
[10:23] <Guest57795> hello
[10:24] <Guest57795> hell o is any body here
[10:25] <trijntje> !ask | Guest57795
[10:25] <Guest57795> ohh thanks
[10:26] <Guest57795> could u help me over wireless problemm issue
[10:26] <Guest57795> hello yash shahh
[10:26] <Fuchs> !es > Fuchs
[10:27] <trijntje> !wireless
[10:27] <Wipster> hi all, is there a way to on automatic login make xserver output a full screen image, then when wireless connects or any network connects and I can ping to fire up firefox and kill the full screen image or color?
[10:29] <rails_learner> somebody hhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[10:35] <monohedron> rails_learner, what is your question
[10:36] <rails_learner> monohedron: when I try doing sudo apt-get install postgresql
[10:36] <rails_learner> monohedron: i get the following error
[10:37] <rails_learner> monohedron:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done postgresql is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 90 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?  Setting up firmware-b43-installer (4.150.10.5-5) ... Not supported low-power chip wi
[10:39] <monohedron> ok can you do a "sudo apt-get install -f" first
[10:39] <uKolka> looks like http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/not-supported-low-power-chip-with-pci-id-14e4-4315-error-856525/
[10:46] <rails_learner> monohedron: uKolka I am updating ubuntu now so cant try the commands will do it once the updates are over
[10:49] <squibby> hey guys; I may owe somebody $5.  when did aptitude begin appearing with the default installation of ubuntu desktop?
[10:50] <x-31> moin moin
[10:56] <it_> hello all
[10:56] <it_> is any body here
[10:56] <Sidewinder1> 1518 here.
[10:57] <arand> squibby: I'm not sure, but sifting through http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.manifest and similar should be able to answer the question.
[10:57] <it_> hello
[10:57] <it_> is any body here
[10:57] <it_> hello
[10:58] <it_> arand how r u
[10:58] <it_> hello nVee
[10:58] <ikonia> it_: hi, 1400+ people are here, so if you need help, just ask
[10:58] <squibby> arand, thanks.
[10:58] <it_> ikonia i wanna to ask abount samba
[10:58] <ikonia> it_: samba on ubuntu ?
[10:59] <it_> yes
[10:59] <squibby> arand, so far what I've been able to dig up suggests that ubuntu has had a long history of including aptitude in standard, was possibly removed in 11.10 and has ongoing dispute about whether to keep providing it.
[10:59] <it_> is this room is for ubuntu or not
[10:59] <ikonia> it_: then just ask
[10:59] <ikonia> it_: correct it is
[10:59] <squibby> possibly removed in version 10 I mean.
[10:59] <squibby> not 11.10
[11:00] <it_> ikonia:how to transfer file from ubuntu to window via lancabel
[11:00] <ikonia> it_: well, you don't need to use samba for that ?
[11:01] <Turux> share a folder on Windows than browse it from ubuntu
[11:01] <it_> ikonia" i try via lan cabel is join it show connect and i m new in linux in window it too easy
[11:01] <it_> ikonia:tell me whole procedure
[11:02] <ikonia> it_: that's ok - everyone is new at some time
[11:02] <ikonia> it_: is this a one time job, or do you plan to move data many times
[11:02] <ikonia> (on a regular basis)
[11:02] <it_> ikonia    so what should do
[11:04] <ikonia> it_: do you need to do this on a regular basis, or just one time
[11:05] <it_> ikonia:ok but how to config first time
[11:05] <ikonia> it_: do you need to do this one time, or many times ?
[11:06] <it_> one time
[11:07] <ikonia> it_: ok, then I'd advise you not to setup samba for just one time
[11:07] <ikonia> it_: something like ftp maybe quicker and easier for a one time transfer
[11:07] <it_> ikonia: so what would i do to share data
[11:07] <it_> ikonia: but i don't know ab t them too
[11:07] <arand> squibby: It was included since the ubuntu desktop installer, ubiquity, required it, and when it was re-written to not require it, it was removed, It's still installed if using the alternate install CD or the server, since those uses tasksel for installing.
[11:08] <ikonia> it_: do you want to get windows data to the ubuntu machine, or ubuntu data to the windows machine
[11:09] <squibby> arand, understood thanks.
[11:09] <arand> squibby: There was some grumbling whe it was removed, me inluded, but I don't think there's much of an "ongoing debate" about it.
[11:09] <it_> ikonia: tell me abt both i think its possibel if we share folder is open in both so could transfer data in both side
[11:09] <ikonia> !samba | it
[11:10] <ikonia> it_: have a read through that to get a very basic understanding of how samba works and how to set it up
[11:10] <it_> ikonia tell me more abt
[11:10] <ikonia> it_: that link should be a very basic introduction
[11:10] <ikonia> it_: have a quick read of that to get the basic idea
[11:11] <it_> ikonia : tell me how to use it
[11:11] <ikonia> it_: that link will tell you how to use it
[11:11] <ikonia> it_: have a read of that link, then we can progress from there
[11:11] <it_> ikonia: send me link
[11:12] <ikonia> !samba | it
[11:13] <LjL> !samba > it_
[11:13] <it_> ubottu: ok
[11:13] <it_> ljl: is this is to type in terminal
[11:13] <LjL> it_: no, it's a link. it's to be opened in a browser.
[11:14] <ikonia> it_:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:15] <it_> ok ikonia
[11:16] <hammommah> how do i list availiable dislplays so i can launch seperate x session?
[11:17] <hammommah> ie startx :0
[11:19] <stimpie> My ubuntu machine has attempted to login to my domain controller with the username 'ABORT' does anyone know what could cause this?
[11:22] <aboudreault> hmm... my start-stop-daemon command seems to always return 0, event if the process has been started..
[11:23] <geirha> aboudreault: 0 means success
[11:23] <aboudreault> geirha, yeah, but calling with --test, how can know if the process is already running, thought --test what for that
[11:25] <aboudreault> geirha, I was trying to *not* do a simple if [ -e $PIDFILE ]. I suppose that start-stop-daemon doesn't only check that file but also if the pid is still alive
[11:25] <talalala> hi
[11:26] <geirha> aboudreault: If you provide it with the pidfile, I'd assume so, yes.
[11:30] <regedarek> Hi, is any a/b test to change block of html code in views ??
[11:30] <ogex> heloo anyone know how to read epub file on linux ?
[11:31] <LjL> ogex: Calibre or Okular or FBReader
[11:35] <ogex> LjL, thanx
[11:41] <beanbipper> I'm running ubuntu on a low-powered VPS. I was wondering about setting up a windowed environment, but my vps is probably too puny to run the full ubuntu-desktop. Is it possible to set up a more basic windowed environment without installing the full ubuntu-desktop?
[11:45] <szal> beanbipper: you don't want a GUI on a server
[11:46] <beanbipper> szal: it's not really a server, it's just something I'm playing around with
[11:46] <beanbipper> szal: it's serving a few files but nothing really important. It would be interesting if it were possible to set up a gui
[11:49] <Oer> beanbipper, i would go for openbox >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[11:49] <julia_still_> i have ubuntu 10.10 as my operating system . i am using my college wifi to upload files ... when i use filezilla i get this error ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server .. i guess its due to the two different ip addresses assigned to my computer by the college server .. any one pls suggest how to solve this problem vivekpandey1991 is online now Report Post       Edit/Delete Message
[11:50] <beanbipper> Oer: thanks. will that work nicely with VNC?
[11:50] <Oer> beanbipper, sure
[11:50] <beanbipper> oer, thanks, I'll try that then
[11:51] <Oer> beanbipper, other choice would be Xubuntu of Lubuntu
[11:51] <julia_still_> i have ubuntu 10.10 as my operating system . i am using my college wifi to upload files ... when i use filezilla i get this error ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server .. i guess its due to the two different ip addresses assigned to my computer by the college server .. any one pls suggest how to solve this problem
[11:52] <ikonia> julia_still_: what server are you connecting to ?
[11:52] <julia_still_> ikonia : an ftp server .. ftp.navriti.com
[11:52] <ikonia> julia_still_: I suspect it's your college blocking ftp from being sent
[11:53] <julia_still_> ikonia: how to bypass that?
[11:53] <ikonia> julia_still_: my first step would be to contact the wifi admin and ask if ftp to the public internet is allowed
[11:53] <ikonia> julia_still_: you don't bypass it
[11:53] <julia_still_> ikonia :  so how should i upload the file?
[11:54] <ikonia> julia_still_: you contact your wifi admin team and ask them if ftp is allowed to the public internet, that is your first step
[11:54] <Pumpkin-> beanbipper: you may be interested in X forwarding individual applications rather than running a desktop environment
[11:54] <rileyp> julia_still_: dont use teh uni's wifi and use a broadband dongle
[11:54] <beanbipper> Pumpkin: is that very much more complicated to set up?
[11:55] <rileyp> julia_still_:  tether to your iphone perhaps
[11:55] <julia_still_> ikonia : its not easy to contact them .. and they dont generally entertain queries from students
[11:55] <ikonia> julia_still_: then you need to find another ISP
[11:55] <ikonia> julia_still_: as rileyp a 3g dongle, an internet cafe etc
[11:55] <ikonia> julia_still_: however, I would try to contact them to confirm if ftp is allowed or not as if it is, your problem will be solved straight away
[11:55] <julia_still_> rileyp : the problem is that dongle is giving a very low speed and it will take around 18 hours to upload
[11:55] <dubaco> Hello how do i wipe a single partition and update grub?
[11:56] <ikonia> dubaco: do you play to put something else onto that partition or do you just want it blank ?
[11:56] <julia_still_> ikonia : is there no way to check ftp is allowed or not frm my own machine?
[11:56] <rileyp> julia_still_: The uni wont change their settings so you can upload a file they have a policy
[11:56] <ikonia> julia_still_: ftp to something on the internet that you know works, if it responds, it's allowed
[11:57] <julia_still_> ikonia : for example/
[11:57] <julia_still_> ?
[11:57] <ikonia> julia_still_: just tested ftp.navriti.com
[11:58] <ikonia> julia_still_: it works - so you are probably being blocked by your wifi provider
[11:58] <Dulak> Time for a vpn.
[11:58] <julia_still_> ikonia : but i can access that from my bowser
[11:58] <LjL> ikonia, julia_still_: maybe it just needs passive mode?
[11:58] <ikonia> julia_still_: that is http
[11:58] <ikonia> LjL: not for connection refused
[11:58] <rileyp> julia_still_:  if its a big file then you really need a hard wire connection to upload from thats the way big files are transfered wifi is a second best
[11:58] <ikonia> LjL: you'd get a time out on transfer if passive mode was neededd
[11:58] <LjL> i see
[11:58] <julia_still_> LjL : how to set a passive mode?
[11:58] <ikonia> LjL: the initial port 21 connection should still be fine
[11:59] <rexor> How much stable is beta of 12.04 ? Can I use it on desktop environment?
[11:59] <LjL> julia_still_: depends on the client, but apparently that's not the issue anyway
[11:59] <ikonia> julia_still_: you're not getting any connection from the ftp server right ?
[11:59] <ikonia> (that's how I understood it)
[11:59] <julia_still_> rileyp : my college wifi gives a speed around 1 MB/s .. so thats sufficient if i make it work
[12:00] <Dulak> You get a year free on a micro instance if you sign up for AWS.  I use exactly that for a vpn that lets me get around any blocked port.
[12:00] <julia_still_> ikonia : no not when i use wifi.. i get this error ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server  ... but i can using my dongle
[12:00] <ikonia> julia_still_: ok, so that's going to be wifi blocking you,
[12:01] <ikonia> LjL: that makes sense, no initial port 21 connect, so passive won't make a difference
[12:01] <julia_still_> ikonia : is there no way out?
[12:01] <ikonia> julia_still_: the best way is a.) contact your wifi admin b.) find another source, internet cafe for example to upload
[12:02] <monohedron> julia_still_, ikonia why dont you just do a "telnet ftp.navriti.com 21"to se whether there is a connection
[12:02] <monohedron> even see
[12:02] <ikonia> monohedron: because he's just tested it with ftp
[12:02] <ikonia> monohedron: which is a dumb connection to port 21
[12:02] <ikonia> monohedron: I know the server is running as I can connect to it
[12:02] <monohedron> ikonia, sorry your highness
[12:03] <ikonia> monohedron: no need for that, I'm just explaining why I'm not telling him to telnet
[12:03] <gemi> i use Backtrack, i am on right channel.. because i guess bt5r1 and ubuntu is probally from 1 unti
[12:03] <ikonia> gemi: no
[12:03] <ikonia> gemi: use #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[12:03] <gemi> :(
[12:03] <gemi> ok than
[12:03] <monohedron> ikonia, 21 is ftp
[12:04] <ikonia> monohedron: yes, I know
[12:04] <julia_still_> ikonia: ok there is another way.. i can compress the file in zip format and then upload the file ... i takes less time .. is it possible that i extract the zip file on that server ?
[12:04] <monohedron> and it gives you a very verbose output that will tell you exactly, withour any guessing, what the score is
[12:04] <ikonia> monohedron: I'm not guessing
[12:04] <ikonia> monohedron: I've connected to the server, so I know ftp is running
[12:04] <monohedron> no playing around till you get to some point
[12:04] <ikonia> it's a pure-ftpd server, running private seperation with TLS enabled
[12:05] <monohedron> we know that you can connect but not julia
[12:05] <ikonia> monohedron: yes, because it's being blocked
[12:05] <monohedron> which would have been apparent in a bout 5 seconds with "telnet ftp.navriti.com 21"
[12:05] <ikonia> monohedron: it was apparant in 5 seconds after ftp
[12:05] <monohedron> without chasing any other dubious ways
[12:06] <ikonia> that's why I said straight away "it's blocked"
[12:06] <monohedron> yes my oracle
[12:06] <monohedron> like said apologies
[12:06] <julia_still_> ikonia ?
[12:06] <ikonia> julia_still_: you can try to compress the file sure
[12:06] <ikonia> julia_still_: depends what data is in the file as to how well it will compress
[12:07] <julia_still_> i downoaded the zip file from net.. its a cms
[12:07] <julia_still_> ikonia
[12:07] <ikonia> julia_still_: if it's a zip, it's already compressed
[12:08]  * dr_willis wonders what a 'cms' is
[12:09] <julia_still_> ikonia : yes .. so what i am asking is ... is there any way to decompress it ,once i upload it to the server ?
[12:09] <ikonia> content managment system
[12:09] <julia_still_> dr_willis  : content management system
[12:09] <ikonia> julia_still_: sure, use "unzip"
[12:09] <julia_still_> ikonia : i am using ubuntu not windows
[12:09] <dr_willis> !info unzip
[12:10] <dr_willis> !info unp
[12:10] <aseptilena> How to add text from a file to another file in specific line and column? Anyone knows?
[12:11] <julia_still_> dr_willis : but how do i unzip the zip file on the server . i dont have physical access to it
[12:11] <dr_willis> aseptilena:  i recall some old skool command line apps like cut and paste, and col. I recall doing somthing  in a specific col under unix like 30 yrs ago. :)
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> Wow, dr_willis is old. :-)
[12:12] <dr_willis> Yep.
[12:13] <scena> Good morning. Has anyone experienced issues installing Ubuntu Server 11.10 32bit on VMWare Server 2.0.2? Whenever I Try to do the install I get the install kicked off and then I just get a purple screen. It looks almost like its tripping up around the time it tries to set up the network/IP6
[12:13] <scena> The desktop version seems to go in OK.
[12:13] <dr_willis> aseptilena:  vi and geany also have 'vertical selection' of blocks. other text editors may also.
[12:16] <scena> yeah; right after it tries to set up DHCP with IPv6 I get a purple screen and it just sits there.
[12:17] <dr_willis> i dident evben think the server install used the splash stuff.
[12:17] <scena> dr_w: its all text based, but yeah
[12:17] <dr_willis> so i dont see how its purple. :) with the ubuntu .... animation?
[12:17] <dr_willis> or just purpleish?
[12:18] <scena> dr_w: lol. no the backgroung is.
[12:18] <sambagirl> morning when you are burning a cd/dvd it offers you all the time to burn the image or to burn the data contents of some such language. if you have an iso which one do you select to be able to boot and install from the newly burned media? i keep getting mixed up with it.
[12:18] <scena> terminals can have color.
[12:18] <scena> yup
[12:18] <scena> its something to do with the network set up & IPv6.
[12:19] <scena> if i cancel the network "autoconfiguration" and attempt it manually? i can install the OS.
[12:19] <scena> bingo, made it to the partitioner.
[12:19] <dr_willis> not sure whats in the server installer.. seems weird the desktop works. but not the server installer.
[12:20] <scena> dr_w: yeah i know. that's wat I said. although, with Ubuntu (not the alternate CD) its attempting to boot the live OS. the alternate isntaller might experience the same problem as it uses the text based instller as well.
[12:21] <dr_willis> guess the 2 could be using differnt network manager tools/defaults
[12:21] <scena> dr_w: quite possible.
[12:21] <dr_willis> or could be some quirk with  the vm nic settings.
[12:21] <scena> dr_w: yeah; since its done virtually i hadn't ruled that out either
[12:22] <dr_willis> i know vbox can emulate like 4 differnt types of nics.
[12:22] <scena> dr_w: i loved vbox. though Vyatta *really* doesn't like its hypervisor
[12:22] <dr_willis> I thought there was premade virtual-appliances for  ubuntu for vmware also. saves some time.
[12:22] <dr_willis> i havent messed with them in ages.
[12:23] <scena> dr_w: well if this actually launches, it'll be in either VMWare Server 2.0.x or ESXi
[12:23] <scena> personally, i just like being able to build the OS from scratch so I know whats there.
[12:37] <sambagirl> i have a new 64 bit laptop i want to use the 64 bit version but it says AMD and when i tried to burn the CONTENTS of the image it failed. so there is no intel 64 bit version?
[12:38] <n4dsp> quit
[12:38] <n4dsp> exit
[12:38] <Gblue> sambagirl
[12:38] <Gblue> go to #ubuntu-support
[12:39] <sambagirl> what Gblue
[12:39] <Gblue> wait
[12:39] <sambagirl> i am not asking for support i am asking a simple question
[12:39] <lewis1711> how do I get the name of the currently running window manager?
[12:39] <Gblue> yeah
[12:39] <sambagirl> ubuntu-support
[12:39] <Gblue> First: SEARCH ON GOOGLE
[12:39] <sambagirl> well what is this?
[12:39] <sambagirl> your an idiot Gblue
[12:39] <Gblue> Second: WRITE A MAIL
[12:40] <Gblue> Third: ASK HERE
[12:40] <szal> Gblue: says who?
[12:40] <Gblue> i
[12:40] <Gblue> me
[12:40] <Myrtti> Gblue: this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[12:40] <szal> then stfu, kthxbye
[12:41] <Gblue> yeah
[12:41] <Gblue> but
[12:41] <Gblue> no one answers
[12:41] <Myrtti> everyone please calm down
[12:41] <Myrtti> szal: you really should know better than use that acronym
[12:41] <szal> Myrtti: some people don't understand it any other way ;)
[12:42] <Myrtti> szal: not good enough.
[12:42]  * Gblue sneezes in Myrtti's face
[12:42] <Gblue> ew
[12:42] <Gblue> nnscript
[12:42] <Gblue> xD
[12:42] <FloodBot1> Gblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <kenny__> hello
[12:42] <Gblue> Hm, you're right
[12:42] <Gblue> xD
[12:42] <savage> hi
[12:42] <kenny__> :(
[12:42] <kenny__> hi
[12:42] <Myrtti> Gblue: this isn't a social channel, please limit the flooding to somewhere else.
[12:43] <Gblue> flood
[12:43] <Gblue> flood
[12:43] <Gblue> flood
[12:43] <Gblue> flood
[12:43] <Gblue> flood
[12:43] <FloodBot1> Gblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <Gblue> flood
[12:43] <savage> :D
[12:44] <savage> ninja ops ftw
[12:44] <lewis1711> SO ANYWAY
[12:44] <sharif> help
[12:44] <sharif> plzzz
[12:44] <Myrtti> sharif: you haven't asked a question yet
[12:44] <szal> sharif: (1) use proper English; (2) with what?
[12:44] <sharif> ok
[12:44] <savage> sharif: if your house is on fire you should call the fire department
[12:45] <sharif> ayaa
[12:45] <sharif> yaa
[12:45] <sharif> bro
[12:45] <szal> sharif: (3) all on ONE line, if possible
[12:45] <sharif> but me simple englis talking ok
[12:45] <neo1691> hi everyone.. I have configured gwibber with twitter and facebook, i have set up evolution mail, with gmail, calendars etc, yet i dont get any bubble notifications. I only get notifications of gtalk
[12:45] <neo1691> please help
[12:45] <SilfenX> hello - just installed Ubuntu 11 with untiy desktop and have an nvidia gfx card. after login I have a vertical grey rectangle on the left of the screen a top menu bar with a gear and an envelpe etc but rest of desktop is white and nothing shows when I select it from the top menu bar. Anything I can do to resolve this?
[12:45] <sipior> sharif: that's fine. go ahead with your question.
[12:46] <sharif> me ubuntu user
[12:46] <Gblue> flood
[12:46] <sharif> but simple new user
[12:46] <Gblue> flood
[12:46] <Myrtti> Gblue: stop it.
[12:47] <Gblue> flood
[12:47] <Gblue> flood
[12:47] <Gblue> yeah
[12:47] <Gblue> it's a script
[12:47] <FloodBot1> Gblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:47] <Gblue> how do i unset a timer?
[12:47] <metalfan_> hi
[12:47] <Gblue> flood
[12:47] <sharif> unity 2d but theme not use
[12:47] <metalfan_> is it safe to upgrade von 9.10 to the latest ubuntu or can it lead to problems?
[12:47] <Gblue> how do i unset a timer in mIRC?
[12:47] <Gblue> flood
[12:48] <Gblue> flood
[12:48] <sipior> Gblue: you get kicked from the channel, and the problem solves itself.
[12:48] <szal> !eolupgrade | metalfan_
[12:48] <szal> dang
[12:48] <sharif> hyy
[12:48] <szal> !karmic | metalfan_
[12:48] <pangolin> !eol | szal metalfan_
[12:49] <metalfan_> szal the first !eolugrade did not show me anything
[12:49] <szal> pangolin: yeah, was looking for the 2nd one
[12:49] <sharif> hlw
[12:49] <sharif> :'(
[12:50] <szal> sharif: how about you ask a question finally? and again, all on ONE line, if possible
[12:50] <sipior> sharif: is there another language you're more comfortable with? another channel might make things a bit easier for you.
[12:51] <szal> !en | sharif
[12:51] <sharif> yaaa bro
[12:51] <SilfenX> hello - just installed Ubuntu 11 with untiy desktop but when I log in everything is white. with a grey vertical rectangle on the left.Is this a known issue that might have a solution? Pretty useless with an OS showing you a white square that doesnt even say 'ompfh' when you poke it
[12:52] <metalfan_> szal  thx
[12:52] <sharif>  just installed Ubuntu 11 with untiy desktop but when I log in everything is white
[12:55] <SilfenX> yeah, read on the ubuntu forums about someone having a similar issue that resolved it by changing to an older gfx driver but how can I do that if nothing goes on on the screen after login?
[12:55] <sipior> SilfenX: you could get to a console via "ctrl-alt-F1" (and then alt-F7 to get back)
[12:56] <SilfenX> oh, I need to try that then
[12:56] <szal> SilfenX: what gfx hardware?
[12:57] <SilfenX> gffx 7800
[12:57] <szal> not known for shader bugs w/ current drivers *scratches head*
[12:58] <pg345> does anyone know how to setup printers from a preseed file?
[13:00] <SilfenX> ok, I m at a console/terminal but I m at loss trying  to figure out what to type to roll back/degrade/upgrade or whatever, the gfx card driver at the prompt.
[13:01] <szal> SilfenX: what driver is it using atm? -> lspci -k <- look for the line that identifies your gfx card
[13:01] <SilfenX> does this issue manifest when using the 3d desktop? maybe I could force a switch over to 2d from terminal?
[13:03] <neo1691> gwibber is not showing any notifications!! :-(
[13:05] <SilfenX> oops, mustve changed out the gfx card, the diagnostic output of lspci -k says it s a gffx 5700, NV36.2 rev a1
[13:08] <lhk> hi
[13:08] <cryptotheslow> hi lhk
[13:09] <lhk> i know that its possible to install ubuntu on an ARM tablet. Where can I check what packages are available on an ARM system ?
[13:09] <lhk> will I be able to program on a tablet ? gcc, ...
[13:10] <wm_eddie> If it's ubuntu running on the tablet then yes, you should be able to install build-essentials and program to your hearts content.
[13:12] <lhk> wm_eddie       this sounds good. I wonder though if native programs will be troublesome. Where will I see the influence of the architecture ?
[13:13] <wm_eddie> If you take care to write your programs in standard C, or C++ and take care of Endian issues it shouldn't matter.
[13:13] <wm_eddie> If you use something like Python or Ruby then it shouldn't matter.
[13:14] <wm_eddie> I don't know if there's an ARM OpenJDK package though...
[13:14] <negev> hi, i wanted to install ubuntu on my 13" macbook air (latest gen). followed the guide to create a bootable usb stick, all well and good, but i can't seem to repartition my disk to make space for it.  i already have windows 7 bootcamp'd, and the osx partition is encrypted for work reasons. i installed refit but that didn't seem to make any difference.  is there no way to repartition without decryption the boot volume?
[13:15] <lhk> wm_eddie      yep that's all I need ;)
[13:16] <ktwo> hi, is bluemon used as default bt manager in ubuntu 11.10? what was it before that?
[13:16] <ktwo> because i have only problems with that but i remember that before it was different
[13:18] <musabojang> how are you
[13:19] <SilfenX> I managed to fix the issue with the white screen. I ctrl+alt+f1 to terminal, then did 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current', rebooted and voila! desktop is showing finally!
[13:19] <Gblue> SilfenX
[13:19] <Gblue> have you gui?
[13:19] <Gblue> of ubuntu
[13:21] <rizal> hay..
[13:22] <aviator> hi
[13:23] <rizal> stststst....
[13:24] <jn_> arr anyone know how to adjust the interval for the values in my x axe in a libreoffice diagram? ><
[13:24] <ktwo> hi, is blueman used as default bt manager in ubuntu 11.10. what was it before that? i have only problems with it
[13:24] <SilfenX> Gblue: yes, I have. Why?
[13:25] <Gblue> well
[13:25] <Gblue> because
[13:25] <Gblue> you can do with gui software updates
[13:25] <Gblue> and then it will install the drivers of your nvidia card too
[13:25] <SilfenX> aha, ok thanks
[13:26] <Gblue> justfuckinggoogleit.com
[13:26] <Gblue> :d
[13:26] <ktwo> i wonder why ubuntu bundled a piece of software which is obviously buggy as hell :|
[13:26] <Gblue> bwah, ktwo
[13:26] <waxstone> !language | Gblue
[13:26] <Gblue> ?
[13:26] <Gblue> why?
[13:26] <Gblue> i'm english
[13:26] <Gblue> ?
[13:26] <FloodBot1> Gblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <Gblue> oh
[13:27] <Gblue> okay, i understand
[13:27] <Gblue> !language
[13:27] <Gblue> !help
[13:27] <waxstone> !ops
[13:27] <Gblue> !info
[13:27] <ikonia> Gblue: stop
[13:27] <_313hummer> we got a spammer in here
[13:28] <_313hummer> and now he's gone
[13:28] <matheus> hello guys
[13:28] <_313hummer> h
[13:28] <_313hummer> hi
[13:28] <_313hummer> how do i request an admin to kick Gblue?
[13:28] <matheus> i have a question about ftp
[13:29] <waxstone> !ask | hi matheus
[13:31] <matheus> i have a folder in my server, i need to give permissions to users, permission write or permission read
[13:31] <llutz_> !permissions | matheus
[13:32] <sat> facing problem in connecting to wireless network in ubuntu 11.10
[13:33] <matheus> i think my case is not simple
[13:34] <cryptotheslow> matheus, what is the actual problem and what ftp server are you using?
[13:34] <szal> cryptotheslow: where did he say 'FTP'?
 i have a question about ftp
[13:34] <cryptotheslow> scroll back :P
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> matheus, You might find this useful: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/chmodcal2.shtml
[13:36] <matheus> i have to give permission of read to user which don't is owner from folder
[13:37] <myz_> exit
[13:37] <matheus> i have to give permission to folder: o+rx
[13:38] <matheus> but this user "read" can't access to folder by ftp
[13:38] <cryptotheslow> does the folder itself have read permission for that user?
[13:39] <ribot> hi
[13:39] <waxstone> matheus: you have to R_X chmod the folder as well
[13:39] <ribot> it seems that when nano open files it reads them in utf-8, how can i open and read one file in latin?
[13:40] <matheus> i have to give permission to read for others users there is not on the group
[13:41] <waxstone> matheus, 755 the folder
[13:41] <matheus> waxstone, i did
[13:42] <waxstone> matheus, and what about the files?
[13:42] <CircleCode> Hi, is there a way to add custom commands in preffered apps?
[13:42] <CircleCode> (for gnome 3)
[13:43] <matheus> the files inherit permissions of the folder
[13:43] <waxstone> matheus, have you confirmed that with ls -l ?
[13:44] <matheus> yes
[13:44] <rams_pandu> Hi all, I have accidentally formatted the whole hard disk while installing ubuntu. Windows 7 was the os before. Do I have a chance of recovering the data lost during ubuntu installation??
[13:45] <matheus> if the User is not the same group as the owner of the folder it can not access ftp
[13:46] <matheus> the User "read" must be the same group or with more permissions than the creator of the folder
[13:46] <ljt> rams_pandu: somewhat unlikely to recover the partition, but you stand a decent chance at recovering some if not most of the data
[13:46] <cryptotheslow> matheus, what ftp server? proftpd, pureftpd etc.? You may find the users need to be in an "ftp" group as defined by your ftp server config.
[13:46] <ljt> whatever hasn't been written over
[13:47] <rams_pandu> ljt, can you please tell me how can I recover the data?
[13:47] <ljt> rams_pandu: check out photorec
[13:48] <matheus> i do no how to see what my ftp server
[13:49] <cryptotheslow> matheus, maybe > ps aux | grep ftp <  will shed some light on that
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> rams_pandu, Testdisk is another data recovery tool.
[13:50] <ljt> rams_pandu: also what Sidewinder1 said - testdisk & photorec are bundled together
[13:51] <rams_pandu> Sidewinder1, yeah, i am currently downloading that
[13:51] <ljt> but if you've installed over the top, I doubt testdisk would be able to recover the partition but it's certainly worth a try
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> rams_pandu, Good luck! Fortunately I've never had to use it. :)
[13:56] <matheus> cryptotheslow, i can't find what my server ftp
[13:57] <llutz_> matheus: "sudo lsof -i :21"
[13:58] <JVolt> hello guys, Do you know when we will get that new features about dual screens? (I'm most interested about that one to fix the mouse pause between screens)
[13:58] <matheus> xinetd  19396 root    5u  IPv6 12211985       TCP *:ftp (LISTEN)
[13:59] <llutz_> matheus: and now check your xinetd.conf what service it runs
[14:00] <matheus> is empty
[14:01] <matheus> it require xinetd.d folder
[14:01] <llutz_> matheus: who administrates that server? ask him what/how he installed/runs
[14:04] <cryptotheslow> matheus, if the files are correctly permissioned world readable yet users cannot read them then logically it is the ftp server configuration stopping them. So as llutz_ suggests speak with the sysadmin and ask if those users need adding to a particular group or something.
[14:04] <fernando_> hello I want to know if there is an application for defragmenting a partition I have for windows xp
[14:05] <_Marcus> fernando_: This is Ubuntu support, not Windows. Try ##windows
[14:05] <fernando_> I have to defragment from linux because of the files not being in use
[14:05] <SocaLinux> hello, can i run LTS on 12.04 destro?
[14:06] <JVolt> I'm already using 12.04 daily
[14:06] <ikonia> SocaLinux: is it an x86 compatible machine ?
[14:06] <SocaLinux> yes
[14:07] <_Marcus> fernando_: I know for a fact(because I use it) that Windows XP has a built-in defragmentation program. You can run it fine on Windows XP and it will reach everything. If you don't want to use that program, then fine, I won't stop you, but this is Ubuntu support, not Windows XP.
[14:07] <JVolt> There's just one thing not so good... I'm using dual screens and it's hard to move the mouse pointer between the screens
[14:08] <rojanu> What would happen when Installer is asked to encrypt an existing home partition? would it damage existing data?
[14:08] <LjL> _Marcus, sorry but, defragmenting even a Windows partition *from Ubuntu* is a legitimate question for here i think... that it isn't really possible is the answer, but
[14:09] <ratcheer> LjL: I agree.
[14:09] <_Marcus> LjL: Oh, my bad, sorry
[14:09] <matheus> the ftp server stop the user witch not is the group of owner from to folder
[14:09] <JVolt> Do anyone know where can i get informed about when a new feature will be released?
[14:10] <JVolt> I'm talking about 12.04 version*
[14:10] <waxstone> !12.04 | JVolt
[14:10] <fernando_> _marcus I want to be able to defragment a hd without going to windows I have some harddrives that were from a windows instalation but their windows is not longer working I want to know if a same or better defragmenter is available for ubuntu 10
[14:11] <JVolt> thanks waxstone
[14:11] <llutz_> fernando_: there is no such program
[14:11] <fernando_> linux doesn't need defragmenting I get
[14:12] <llutz_> fernando_: it does, but ntfs is not supported very well
[14:12] <llutz_> fernando_: ntfs is not a linux/unix-fs
[14:12] <ljt> fernando_: there is no defragmenter in ubuntu at all (even for windows partitions), I don't think one exists (i've been in a similar situation before)
[14:14] <LjL> ljt: a defragmenter should be back again for ext4 in Precise, but certainly not for NTFS
[14:14] <fernando_> llutz, if it need defragmenting how do I defragment a linux partition then
[14:14] <llutz_> !find e4defrag precise
[14:14] <ljt> LjL: right.. interesting, thanks for letting me know
[14:14] <fernando_> not that I want to try it on a ntfs partition
[14:15] <ikonia> LjL: they put the ext defragger back in ?
[14:15] <fernando_> my ubutun rans fast
 my ftp server is PROftpD
[14:15] <llutz_> fernando_: either use e4defrag or do it like generations of linux users did: copy your whole fs onto a new one
[14:15] <dlentz> yes, i'm running precise right now and e4defrag is installed
[14:16] <fernando_> what's precise
[14:16] <llutz_> ikonia: < ubottu> File e4defrag found in e2fsprogs
[14:16] <llutz_> fernando_: ubuntu-12.04
[14:16] <LjL> ikonia, ljt: wait no, i'm sorry, this "defragmenter" is only used with extent-based files, it doesn't really defragment the filesystem
[14:16] <fernando_> I don't think I have updated my ubuntu to the new one
[14:17] <ratcheer> fernando_: It's not time, yet.
[14:17] <rams_pandu> Sidewinder1, It says, I need to have a equal storage device to store the recovered data. But I have formatted whole of the hard drive and installed ubuntu in it. So can you tell me how can I proceed further?
[14:18] <rams_pandu> ljt, , It says, I need to have a equal storage device to store the recovered data. But I have formatted whole of the hard drive and installed ubuntu in it. So can you tell me how can I proceed further?
[14:19] <douglaslucas> Hi, I'm having trouble with Bluetooth. Ocelot on a MacBook Pro7,1, apple wireless keyboard and wireless trackpad. I installed the newest blueman but still the same problem: the bluetooth setup device process sees the device, but only for an instant or two (it goes away, comes back, goes away) and the device powers off quickly. the devices were working under OS X, have new batteries, etc.
[14:19] <dlentz> LjL, e4defrag can handle an entire partition
[14:20] <LjL> oh
[14:20] <LjL> well then i guess maybe yes the defraggter is back :P
[14:21] <ljt> rams_pandu: so you have the wiped disk, you run your recovery software on it which will scan the whole disk for patterns that look like files. you can't recover the data to the same disk otherwise it might overwrite the lost data you're trying to recover
[14:22] <ljt> rams_pandu: you need to save the recovered data to another drive/remote computer/wherever, so long as it's not on the same disk
[14:22] <matheus> join #plesk
[14:23] <SocaLinux> guys i was talking about Linux Terminal Server and not Long Term support LOL
[14:24] <SocaLinux> the question is can i run Terminal Server on 12.04 and would i be able to access office form the thin clients?
[14:26] <waxstone> SocaLinux,  is this possible presently with 11.10 or Ubuntu server?
[14:28] <stercor> How/where do I set my email password in evolution?
[14:33] <haux> When I enable Dual Graphics through the AMD Catalyst Control Center, ubuntu freezes up at the load screen. Does anyone have any idea as to why?
[14:34] <JVolt> That happens with me too
[14:34] <haux> I presume you haven't found a fix for that.
[14:34] <JVolt> I just don't install the AMD driver
[14:35] <JVolt> yes... i gave up lol
[14:35] <haux> But without the AMD driver, the graphics card cannot work?
[14:36] <JVolt> I'm not from support (I'm just an user) dont believe me
[14:36] <JVolt> Well,when you install the Ubuntu it comes with a default driver right? I'm using that one
[14:36] <haux> Ah
[14:36] <fernando_> I want to know something
[14:36] <haux> Well, at that rate, I can just keep dual graphicss disabled.
[14:36] <haux> in ubuntu..
[14:37] <haux> works perfectly in windows
[14:37] <JVolt> when you say dual graphics, do you talk about dual cards or dual screens?
[14:38] <JVolt> I don't use AMD crossfire... I just use dual screens
[14:38] <haux> I have an AMD A8-3870 APU with an ASUS Radeon 6700
[14:38] <haux> So there's a integrated gpu in the processor, and a separate video card.
[14:39] <haux> AMD calls this "Dual Graphics", not really crossfire
[14:39] <JVolt> and do you want use both? APU and the off card? I'm right?
[14:39] <JVolt> hm
[14:39] <haux> yup
[14:39] <haux> It works in Windows... just causes me problems in Ubuntu
[14:39] <JVolt> sry for wasting your time.. I cant' help you =/
[14:39] <haux> Yeah that's fine. Seems kind of quiet in here right now
[14:40] <haux> Will ask again later
[14:40] <JVolt> kk =]
[14:40] <mao> can tcpdump print outcome using special format?
[14:41] <gabebug> I got a security alert for a server running natty about CVE-2011-3192 - https://launchpad.net/bugs/cve/CVE-2011-3192 only seems to list oneiric as fixed. i thought security issues got back ported for the last 2 years of releases?
[14:41] <haux> JVolt, I actually have to enable some Dual Monitor thing in the BIOS for both to work at once. Which is kind of interesting since you say your dual monitor setup doesn't work
[14:41] <fernando_> I want to find out how much free space I have for my home folder witch is in another partition and / I can read root has 7.8GB and home says 3.8 I want to know if the 7.8 includes the 3.8 or they're dfferent
[14:42] <ratcheer> witch?
[14:42] <JVolt> haux, using the default driver it works... But using the AMD driver dont
[14:43] <haux> Yeah, unfortunately I don't think the default graphics will support both gpu's working at once..
[14:43] <haux> I assume
[14:43] <haux> er
[14:43] <haux> *Default drivers
[14:43] <fernando_> which
[14:44] <JVolt> I think so too, probably your case won't work using the default driver. You right
[14:44] <ratcheer> fernando_: Sorry
[14:44] <fernando_> other folders say unknown on freespace
[14:45] <marc__> can anybody tell me what room i could find an ubuntu developer for hire?
[14:47] <mernilio> test
[14:47] <mernilio> ahh, no invites here. Thanks buddies! :-)
[14:47] <dlentz> !ping | mernilio
[14:47] <mernilio> i'd rather had a real woman ping me...
[14:48] <ikonia> ok, so returning to the topic of Ubuntu support.....
[14:48] <mernilio> some fat fetichist..
[14:48] <sipior> mernilio: "awkward"
[14:48] <Xabster> when running update manager it says "this would require updates from unauthorized sources" - how do I allow this?
[14:48] <_Marcus> I think ikonia was nudging at something
[14:49] <gabebug> can anyone confirm if natty should intact still be receiving security updates?
[14:49] <cryptotheslow> matheus, on a default proftpd install the group "ftpuser" is setup. Does that group on your server?
[14:49] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[14:49] <dlentz> natty is supported until october
[14:49] <sandGorgon> hi guys - what is the commandline to set switcher to compiz static switcher instead of the unity switcher ? I 'm using these for deployment to several machines
[14:50] <gabebug> is this a scenario where is hold be adding an 'also affects distribution' on the launchpad bug for the cve?
[14:50] <mernilio> btw: hi everybody. My name is mernilio, im from sweden. Unfortunally banned from slackware.. (and kde) <-- why, i dont know? I hope we can be friends and that i can be of help.
[14:51] <fernando_> what's the dash on ubuntu I'm using 10.04
[14:51] <curiousx> mernilio: welcome =)
[14:51] <sinkosy>  /server irc.oltreirc.net
[14:51] <mernilio> curiousx: thank you very much! :-)
[14:51] <_Marcus> mernilio: Welcome! This is Ubuntu support chat, so just remember to stay on topic
[14:52] <mernilio> _Marcus: of course!
[14:53] <sinkosy>  /server irc.oltreirc.net
[14:53] <ikonia> sinkosy: lose the space before /server
[14:54] <mernilio> sipior: "you can check you any time you like, but you can never leave" <-- name the song?
[14:54] <cillo842> i have same question as stercor where do you put email password in evolution
[14:54] <waxstone> SocaLinux,  just came across this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[14:55] <lewis1711> how can you set terminals to be 256 colors? I set 'export TERM="xterm-256color"' in .bashrc
[14:55] <drounse> how do you get to the bios when a computer wont allow you to go to bios and immediatly boots hard drive
[14:56] <ioio>  /server irc.oltreirc.net
[14:57] <waxstone> drounse,  normally you have to press a function key as boot starts
[14:57] <drounse> waxstone, i cant figure it out i keep booting into LILO
[14:58] <drounse> waxstone, nevermind i just reset the bios
[14:58] <waxstone> drounse, k
[14:58] <curiousx> drounse: i have a solution wait me a minute
[14:59] <monohedron> drounse, what HW manufacturer
[14:59] <drounse> monohedron winfast
[14:59] <drounse> curiousx i got it
[14:59] <fernando_> ubuntu software center says I have startup disk creator gtk but I can't find it on the list of applications can someone tell me where's its icon is
[15:00] <JPierreD> hello, anyone online?
[15:00] <curiousx> drounse: take a look at this: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[15:01] <JPierreD> seems so
[15:01] <mskazmii> how do I install Zimbra client desktop on ubuntu 11.10?
[15:01] <curiousx> oh! maybe i don understand very well =P
[15:01] <drounse> curiousx i just pulled out the battery and put the jumpers in the "clear" setting
[15:01] <JPierreD> could have any of the recent updates have broken my ubuntu?
[15:01] <fernando_> anybody knows where can I find startup disk creator
[15:02] <xangua> fernando_: usb creator
[15:02] <xangua> ubuntu staruo disk, or somehting like that
[15:02] <fernando_> the website says startup disk creator
[15:02] <dlentz> JPierreD, how broken are we talking?
[15:02] <ioio>  /server irc.oltreirc.net
[15:02] <ioio>  \server irc.oltreirc.net
[15:02] <curiousx> ok, Plop boot manager is for bios that can not boot using USB drives
[15:02] <OU818> does anyone havea shell with insomnia24/7?
[15:02] <pangolin> _Marcus, ping
[15:03] <_Marcus> hi
[15:03] <pangolin> hmm
[15:03] <pangolin> let me check this out
[15:03] <JPierreD> let me see, dlentz, doesn't load the OS, and among the last lines are "Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init." and "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg."
[15:03] <dlentz> have you tried an older kernel?
[15:04] <JPierreD> hmm, I thought the owner of this laptop would have
[15:04] <JPierreD> I'll do that
[15:04] <Guest13665> hey.. so I'm trying to ssh into my server, and I entered the wrong password a few times, and it seems to have blocked me.  any way I can fix this problem?
[15:05] <wgas> Guest13665:  What client are you using to ssh in?
[15:05] <ljt> Guest52051: also, did you set this server up?
[15:05] <wgas> ljt: Looks like he went :(
[15:05] <ljt> oops
[15:05] <ljt> wrong guest
[15:06] <ljt> Guest52051: sorry ignore
[15:06] <JPierreD> Kernel panic - not syncing sounds so bad :/
[15:06] <ljt> wgas: ah I wouldn't know heh - I filter joins and quits
[15:06] <dlentz> JPierreD, that was with the older kernel?
[15:06] <JPierreD> I'm very noobish, so bear with me
[15:07] <JPierreD> I'm testing the options in the begining
[15:07] <JPierreD> the different kernels
[15:07] <wgas> ljt: i should do that, there are many more joins and quits that actual chat!
[15:07] <monohedron> drounse, did yuo get into your bios yet?
[15:07] <JPierreD> 2.6.35-32-generic, plus 30, 22, 21 don't yet
[15:08] <JPierreD> don't work
[15:08] <dlentz> wgas, but then you could end up tlalking to someone who isn't there (and wouldn't that look foolish? :P )
[15:08] <mneptok> dlentz: tab-complete solves that
[15:08] <JPierreD> nor 31, yes, dlentz, didn't work with any of those options, though haven't tried them in recovery mode, only the 32
[15:09] <wgas> dlentz:  hahahaha :ljt :P
[15:09] <JPierreD> amIdoingitrite?
[15:09] <ljt> wgas: it was the best thing I ever did. now I just see nice chat without distractions
[15:09] <ljt> wgas: you're not using irssi are you?
[15:09] <dlentz> JPierreD, yes, i thought maybe a kernel update was respionsible, but it seems you have bigger issues
[15:09] <JPierreD> :/
[15:10] <wgas> ljt: I am useing quassel server and client
[15:10] <JPierreD> any suggestions? attempting to reinstall ubuntu via a penis drive?
[15:10] <monohedron> drounse, if not a friend just said he has to press and hold DEL before powering on
[15:10] <rebe> penis drive ?
[15:10] <JPierreD> pen drive :P
[15:10] <compdoc> lol
[15:10] <drounse> monohedron yes, i reset the motherboard, but now the computer keeps over heating, it doesnt have a cpu fan only a  heatsink
[15:10] <wgas> JPierreD: would be a intesting methord
[15:11] <JPierreD> well, it's a shame losing everything on the HD
[15:11]  * dlentz isn't sticking his "pen drive" in anything electrical
[15:11] <JPierreD> smart move
[15:11] <dlentz> JPierreD, i'm sure you can get the data off
[15:11] <JPierreD> though I hear some people have a fetish for it
[15:12] <wgas> JPierreD:  Do you have access to another machine you could just use that to get the data off
[15:12] <JPierreD> yep, to this one
[15:12] <JPierreD> which is different from the one having seizures :P
[15:12] <wgas> Mount the hhd on another computer and copy the data off?
[15:13] <dlentz> maverick support ends next month, so it's good you're upgrading/reinstalling
[15:13] <JPierreD> hmm... ok, will check how to do that, and attempt to, thanks
[15:14] <ikonia-test> test
[15:16] <Guest92118> ciaoooooooo
[15:16] <Guest92118> !list
[15:16] <Guest92118> ciao
[15:16] <mskazmii> Does any one know how do I install Zimbra Desktop Client on Ubuntu 11.10?
[15:17] <Seveas> !zimbra
[15:17] <Seveas> ah boo, ubottu doesn't know
[15:17] <ikonia> it maybe lagging
[15:17] <ikonia> it's not been on good form
[15:17] <drounse> on a power supply is the number showing the amount of volts
[15:17] <dlentz> mskazmii, basic proecedure is here (though filenames might be slightly different) http://crenk.com/2011/04/09/how-to-install-zimbra-desktop-in-ubuntu/
[15:18] <genii-around> drounse: That might be a better question for the ##hardware channel
[15:19] <mskazmii> dlentz thanks for the answer but I tried this and at the end where it needs to create shortcut it give me permission denied error
[15:19] <stuk_gen> hi all, i use command gunzip myfile butnow i don't know where the file are extract! what is the default folder?
[15:19] <helmut_> hi
[15:19] <jrib> stuk_gen: same directory
[15:20] <stuk_gen> mmm i don't view anything
[15:20] <jrib> stuk_gen: what file is this?  Where did you get?  What is it for?
[15:20] <dlentz> mskazmii, put 'sudo'' in fornt of the command?
[15:21] <stuk_gen> lol found it rename the file from bz to img
[15:21] <stuk_gen> and i don't see the difference -.-
[15:21] <stuk_gen> thanks
[15:22] <stuk_gen> ok another question how can i know where is the /dev/names of a sd card inserted?
[15:22] <imbezol> stuk_gen: "mount" should tell you
[15:23] <imbezol> stuk_gen: they're using in /media
[15:23] <imbezol> stuk_gen: er, usually in /media
[15:23] <sweb> how to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv
[15:23] <ljt> stuk_gen: or sudo blkid
[15:23] <stuk_gen> i found its /dev/mmcblk0
[15:23] <stuk_gen> but i cant use cd /dev/mmcblk0
[15:24] <ljt> stuk_gen: you need to mount it
[15:24] <stuk_gen> ooh ok i try
[15:24] <imbezol> stuk_gen: that's because that's a device.. you have to "cd" to the directory where that device gets mounted
[15:25] <mskazmii> dlentz I tried with sudo it worked but after pressing enter when zimbra try to open it just stays with hour glass and nothing happens
[15:27] <dlentz> i've never used zimbra, but does it output anything to terminal?
[15:28] <ljt> stuk_gen: if it's been mounted automatically, as imbezol said it'll probably be somewhere in /media/device_name
[15:29] <stuk_gen> ok i'm trying
[15:29] <schnuffle> dlentz: it has log files that you can check
[15:30] <ljt> stuk_gen: otherwise do something like sudo mkdir /mnt/sdcard && sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard
[15:34] <Ella025> hola
[15:34] <schnuffle> !es | Ella025
[15:35] <Ella025> [schnuffle] tenx
[15:35] <Ella025> no spech inglish
[15:35] <schnuffle> your welcome
[15:35] <Ella025> adios
[15:35] <Ella025> o..
[15:35] <Ella025> bye bye
[15:38] <fernando_> stay
[15:39] <smw> Hi all. I am on natty and I am trying to load precise onto a usb stick. I tried using usb-creator-gtk but it keeps hanging. Has anyone had experience with this?
[15:40] <mneptok> smw: #ubuntu+1 with any questions about 12.04
[15:40] <curiousx> smw: try: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:41] <smw> thanks curiousx
[15:41] <schnuffle> smw: Not with precise, but with other distris. In the end I moved to multisystem http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ which does a nice job and can host multiple OS
[15:41] <smw> mneptok, I do not believe the question is about 12.04 :-P
[15:41] <sl33k_> how could I block websites using the cmd line?
[15:41] <curiousx> your welcome
[15:41] <smw> schnuffle, thanks
[15:41] <schnuffle> sl33k_:  with iptables
[15:41] <mneptok> smw: asking anything about Precise Pangolin is reserved for #u+1
[15:42] <pangolin> #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <smw> mneptok, the question is about installing on a usb, not precise :-P
[15:42] <pangolin> mneptok, there is a #u+1 but is for something else
[15:43] <mneptok> this is not a discussion. use #ubuntu+1 for *anything* related to 12.04.
[15:43] <llutz_> smw: simply "cat file.iso >/dev/sdX   "
[15:44] <smw> llutz_, that works? Sweet.
[15:44] <smw> llutz_, I will reformat later
[15:44] <smw> llutz_, I already wiped my 500GB usb hard drive for this
[15:44] <sl33k_> thanks schnuffle
[15:45] <schnuffle> sl33k_: your welcome
[15:46] <sl33k_> is there any way to remove the unwanted kernel versions from dual-boot?
[15:46] <ikonia> sl33k_: just remove them using the package manager
[15:46] <schnuffle> sl33k_: just uninstall the kernel versions you don't need. Or you can drop them from the grub menu if you want to keep them installed
[15:47] <schnuffle> sl33k_: be sure you keep the running kernel
[15:47] <Kyshtynbai> Hi everyone! I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with Gnome 2. From time to time, after exiting a full-screen application (wine game for example) I get a total mess of applets up in the upper panel. How do I make a backup of panel preferences in order to restore it after I have such an error again? Now I have to reset panel and kill all gnome-panel and than restore all my application launchers manually.
[15:47] <sl33k_> ikonia: from synaptic?
[15:47] <ikonia> sl33k_: yes, if you like that package manager
[15:48] <sl33k_> cool, thanks for the help!
[15:53] <smw> llutz, dd worked perfectly, thanks
[15:54] <smw> llutz, nope... never mind. It failed to detect and mount the cdrom drive XD
[15:58] <smw> llutz, ah, does not work with the alternative cd
[15:58] <WormDrink> hi
[15:59] <WormDrink> when creating a dpkg - how do I control permissions and ownership of files placed in it
[15:59] <WormDrink> if you say permissions are read from files I'm going to freak out here
[15:59] <sweb> how can i completely remove package and all decencies during installation
[16:00] <chroot> hi, dose ubuntu support voice control?
[16:00] <schnuffle> WormDrink: Just a guess: postinstallation script
[16:00] <WormDrink> schnuffle, that seems like a hack
[16:00] <WormDrink> but ok
[16:00] <WormDrink> I will accept it
[16:00] <schnuffle> WormDrink: Wait I'll check for a better way. Did it some time ago
[16:00] <smw> WormDrink, no, you do not need post installation scripts
[16:01] <smw> WormDrink, I do not know how, but there is a better way :-P
[16:01] <WormDrink> smw, the man pages doesnt seem to know about one
[16:01] <WormDrink> I think schnuffle might be right
[16:02] <Caifas1> Hello guys, is there a way to remove write access usb devices? I need my usbs to work but I cant have ppl removing data from my pcs, so I need to remove their access to this
[16:03] <jrib> Caifas1: yes (though how to do it has changed and I have no idea what the right way to do it now is).  Look into: udev rules, policykit, and try to figure out if there's some new daemon on the block mounting them...
[16:03] <jrib> Caifas1: I'm assuming your usbs are formatted as vfat or ntfs by the way.  If that's not the case, please let me know
[16:03] <fernando_> I dont' like the ubuntu 11.10 gui
[16:03] <jrib> !nounity | fernando_
[16:04] <jrib> fernando_: use a different one :)
[16:04] <fernando_> I don't think is too user friendly
[16:04] <schnuffle> WormDrink: Okay, the files get installed with the same permissions they have after compiling. You can change thjat in the rules file with dh_fixperms
[16:05] <Caifas1> jrib: well, I have to think my user have any kind of formated pen drivers, I can't let them remove info from the company :P
[16:05] <jrib> Caifas1: ah I see.  I thought you were making some usb storage available and didn't want them modified
[16:06] <hazamonzo> Hey folks Is there a quick way of videobin... ing a recording rom my desktop?
[16:06] <schnuffle> WormDrink: dh_fixperms is part of debhelper. It will adjust permissions and owner but automatically: http://man.he.net/man1/dh_fixperms
[16:06] <hazamonzo> instead of using youtube and all that
[16:06] <jrib> Caifas1: I think what you ask is hard...
[16:07] <Caifas1> jrib: Well... only remove usb device for storage is good also, I just need usb to use mouse/keyboard and that should do for now hehe
[16:07] <WormDrink> schnuffle, thanks
[16:07] <llutz_> Caifas1: just remove users from plugdev-group to deny USB access completly
[16:07] <schnuffle> WormDrink:  your welcome
[16:08] <Caifas1> llutz_: they will still be able to use usb mouse/keyboard
[16:08] <Caifas1> ?
[16:08] <llutz_> Caifas1: iirc yes (not sure)
[16:08] <jrib> Caifas1: okay, I think you can still just mount with "ro" option.  But you need to find where.  My guess and initial try would be udev rule
[16:09] <Caifas1> jjrib: I'll take a look, ty
[16:10] <Caifas1> llutz_: I'll take a look on your options also, thx :D
[16:10] <smw> llutz_, turns out your method did not work with the alternative cd. I am trying the desktop one.
[16:11] <schnuffle> Caifas1: You can create a udev rule that mounts drive on usb read only
[16:11] <jrs> quit
[16:11] <llutz_> smw: since 11.10 all *buntu iso are hybrid-iso, that should have worked
[16:12] <jrs> /quit
[16:12] <batousai> how can i scroll horizontally in tmux?
[16:12] <smw> llutz_, it started to boot, but the debian installer was unhappy
[16:13] <moska> who can tell me where is the directory of mailx ?
[16:14] <llutz_> moska: i already told you yesterday
[16:16] <thomasd> ok two things. #1 FK gnome #2 why isn't flash working
[16:18] <ChristianAdamski> Hey, when using Rhythmbox to copy a song to a mp3-player, my library structure settings are completly ignored. Instead some other (default?) structure is used. Help?
[16:18] <moska> llutz: i forget it...
[16:19] <moska> llutz: please tell me again, thank you
[16:20] <llutz_> moska: it looks at /var/mail/<username> by default, change that by setting "QMAIL_DIR=/home/whoever/Maildir/"
[16:21] <moska> llutz: thx, but i use getmail and msmtp ,
[16:22] <llutz_> moska: and why do you ask about mailx?
[16:22] <doda1> hi folks, when i installed ubuntu i mounted two windows partitions, everything works fine but when i added a new admin user via the user interface some groups wheren't added to the new user and i couldn't open the disks until adding the user in the groups
[16:23] <llutz_> moska: i'd suggest again, you read the documentation for the stuff you use to get a basic idea about it
[16:23] <moska> llutz: i like the
[16:23] <paradizelost> hey guys, what's a good manager for the LAMP stack on a ubuntu server install?
[16:23] <paradizelost> looking for virtual hosts configuration mainly
[16:24] <moska> llutz: i see ,
[16:24] <schnuffle> paradizelost: If you want to manage a whole Server with Email I can suggest Froxlor http://froxlor.org
[16:25] <Lichte> I'm using 12.04 to help test, but I'm wondering how to get the bookmark button back on Firefox; anyone know ??
[16:25] <zykotic10> Lichte: reask in #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <Lichte> thanks zykotic10
[16:26] <schnuffle> Caifas1: HAve you found your solution?
[16:27] <Caifas1> I was looking for you solution of making udev rules, but I never worked with this part, so I'm looking for a way to make the rules hehe
[16:28] <schnuffle> Caifas1: This could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[16:28] <Caifas1> schnuffle: Ty
[16:29] <schnuffle> Caifas1: Your rule will look like: BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd?1", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0204", SYMLINK+="usbstick", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/mount-readonly"
[16:30] <llutz_> Caifas1: schnuffle why mounting ro? just deny all access to usb-storage. Why should people use private usb-drives in a company?
[16:31] <schnuffle> Caifas1: Of course the idVendor shouldn't be set as you want the rule to work for all usb sticks
[16:31] <JPierreD> aaand it worked
[16:31] <rofocale_> wenas
[16:31] <schnuffle> llutz_: Because he wants to have his customers to be able to use the stick e.g. read from it but nor write
[16:31] <rofocale_> alguien sabe algun programita para ver quien consume
[16:31] <rofocale_> mas ancho de banda en una red local ?
[16:32] <Caifas1> llutz_: I want my users to be able to bring their music and stuff but remove their ability to take stuff from the company  to home
[16:32] <llutz_> weird company...
[16:32] <schnuffle> !es | rofocale_
[16:32] <Caifas1> :D
[16:33] <Dulak> Sounds like amazon AWS,  you bring your data in, but it never leaves!
[16:33] <schnuffle> llutz_: If that is wierd to you, then most companies I have experience with are wierd :)
[16:33] <rofocale_> ubottu: sorry me confundi de canal tienes razon
[16:33] <rofocale_> im sorry
[16:34] <DJones> !es | rofocale_
[16:34] <llutz_> schnuffle: well we just refuse any usb-access here and it works. if one wants to hear music, he has to use the radio. ;) we cannot allow anyone to use private drives here
[16:35] <Dulak> I'd bet money I could get data out in under a minute.
[16:35] <schnuffle> llutz_: Of course the better solution
[16:35] <ziyadb> I'm looking for an MS-Paint clone for Ubuntu.
[16:36] <llutz_> Dulak: you're a hero. thats not the point
[16:36] <Dulak> 'We restrict you from taking out data, but you can get data out in under a minute.'  Exactly how is that not the point?
[16:37] <llutz_> Dulak: "we restrict using private usb-drives"  slightly differet
[16:37] <ziyadb> MS-Paint clone? Anyone?
[16:37] <DJones> !paint | ziyadb
[16:37] <schnuffle> ziyad: Krita
[16:37] <jrib> ziyadb: gpaint, tuxpaint, there are more
[16:37] <DJones> Grrs, ziyadb sorry, I thought there was a factoid for that
[16:38] <Dulak> llutz_: and my point was that restriction does not accomplish the goal of restricting the data from walking out the door.
[16:38] <schnuffle> ziyad: I use Paint.NET on wondpws and the best fit except gimp was Krita for me
[16:38] <VCoolio> also grafx2
[16:38] <kaspir> I'm having a problem connecting with remote desktop viewer between 2 11.10 systems. I can find each computer on the network, and can connect but all I get is a blank screen and not even the password prompt
[16:39] <llutz_> Dulak: they just won't use this way.
[16:39] <jrib> Dulak: I think in this case, Caifas1 just cares how to restrict writing to usb.  Whether he has other measures in place to accomplish his end-goal isn't really relevant; #ubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate for discussion about circumvention of such a policy
[16:39] <ziyadb> schnuffle: Krita, thanks, I'll have a look. Is GNOME paint any good?
[16:39] <mskazmii_> Can someone please help me to install Zimbra Desktop Client on ubuntu 11.10 in private chat?
[16:40] <schnuffle> ziyad: for me it had not enough features but the same counts for MS Paint
[16:40] <Dulak> llutz_: yes, which means it's a meaningless restriction.  It makes execs feel good, but does not in any way restrict the theft of data, it just makes someone feel more secure.  It is in no way more secure than allowing usb drives.
[16:40] <llutz_> Dulak: if that is the only restriction, you were right.
[16:40] <mskazmii_> Can someone please help me to install Zimbra Desktop Client on ubuntu 11.10 in private chat?
[16:40] <schnuffle> Dulak: Of course it restricts data theft. Theft from people that take an occasion
[16:40] <kaspir> Could somebody give me a hand in connecting to another computer with remote desktop viewer plz
[16:41] <mskazmii_> Can someone please help me to install Zimbra Desktop Client on ubuntu 11.10 in private chat?
[16:43] <schnuffle> kaspir: do you use 3D effects. There's a statement that that can cause the desktop to show without any action possibler
[16:43] <mskazmii_> Can someone please help me to install Zimbra Desktop Client on ubuntu 11.10 in private chat?
[16:43] <Oer> mskazmii_, maybe this page is any help >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/83945/how-do-i-install-zimbra-desktop
[16:44] <mskazmii_> Oef I tried that but I get an error at the end
[16:44] <schnuffle> mskazmii_: what error?
[16:45] <mintman_> mskazmii_: Its a tar zip file
[16:46] <kaspir> schnuffle: No I don't. It just connected finally but it took a good 10 minutes for the password prompt to come up, only after it said there was a connection error and it said the connection was closed
[16:46] <schnuffle> kaspir: you use vino?
[16:46] <alo21> hi all
[16:47] <alo21> could someone telle me how to became a great ubuntu user?
[16:47] <mskazmii_> mintman can I send you the error or the complete code I have in terminal?
[16:47] <kaspir> schnuffle: yes
[16:47] <ljt> alo21: practice
[16:47] <schnuffle> alo21: a lot of practise
[16:47] <ljt> schnuffle: oh snap
[16:47] <mintman_> mskazmii_: go ahead
[16:47] <alo21> ljt: schnuffle how?
[16:48] <jrib> alo21: (like everything else in life)
[16:48] <Pelo> anyone know a video tag editor ? hopefully that allows mass edit
[16:48] <mskazmii_> mintman mkazmi@ubuntu:~$ cd /home/mkazmi/Desktop/zdesktop/zdesktop_7_1_4_ga_b11273_linux_i686
[16:48] <mskazmii_> mkazmi@ubuntu:~/Desktop/zdesktop/zdesktop_7_1_4_ga_b11273_linux_i686$ sudo ./install.pl
[16:48] <mskazmii_> [sudo] password for mkazmi:
[16:48] <mskazmii_> Welcome to Zimbra Desktop setup wizard. This will install Zimbra Desktop on your computer.
[16:48] <mskazmii_> ------------------------------
[16:48] <FloodBot1> mskazmii_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <mskazmii_> Press enter to continue:
[16:48] <schnuffle> alo21: first start using it and then start reading docs.
[16:49] <alo21> schnuffle: i am using ubuntu since 2008
[16:49] <mintman_> mskazmii_: ur going to get kicked for flooding the site! DO A paste bin
[16:50] <Kk2> im using ubuntu with xmonad *_* in love with this distro
[16:50] <schnuffle> alo21: so what do you want to learn
[16:50] <ljt> alo21: use it a lot, find something you want to change or learn about, use google to find tutorials or manuals
[16:52] <smw> what is the shortcut to open the dash?
[16:53] <schnuffle> kaspir: I've no setup to check your problem, but have you already checked the logs to see what could be the problem
[16:53] <alo21> schnuffle: I do not know... Command Line
[16:54] <auronandace> !terminal | alo21
[16:54] <mintman_> mskazmii_: So what is the problem?
[16:54] <schnuffle> alo21: Okay then you should start to learn that http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html http://linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial
[16:55] <auronandace> alo21: the guys in #bash will be able to help too
[16:56] <schnuffle> alo21: and it's always good to follow a goal. For example write a smal script that does a backup triggered by cron .....
[16:56] <RyanD> what is a command to remove all permissions for all users via setfacl for a recursive folder?
[16:56] <RyanD> setfacl -R then what?
[16:58] <schnuffle> RyanD: Yes the -R will change acl recursivly
[16:58] <gandhijee_> hey, how can i get dual monitors working with optimius stuff from nvidia?
[16:58] <RyanD> yes
[16:58] <RyanD> i know that
[16:58] <gandhijee_> i really don't even care about the nvidia stuff, i just want to use my second monitor....
[16:58] <RyanD> but then what is the following command to remove them for all users?
[16:58] <RyanD> IE, i want to remove read/write/execute access for all users
[16:58] <carl-eric> gandhijee_, in my case (on a dell laptop) I deactivated optimus in the bios and installed nvidia-current drivers
[16:59] <RyanD> (doing a disaster training exercise with my team today and I'm trying to get tricky)
[16:59] <schnuffle> RyanD: its -b or --remove-all
[17:00] <alo21> auronandace: schnuffle is helpful knowing C?
[17:00] <carl-eric> gandhijee_, then you also have to use nvidia-settings instead of the "Display" settings
[17:00] <RyanD> schnuffle:
[17:00] <RyanD> so i'm trying to remove them inside of /var/www/html
[17:00] <schnuffle> RyanD: which leaves only the default owner/group/other permission which you can drop with chmod -R 000
[17:00] <auronandace> alo21: depends what you are doing. knowing a programming language is always a good thing
[17:00] <RyanD> so i'd do sudo setfacl -R /var/www/html --remove-all
[17:00] <RyanD> ?
[17:01] <[Si]> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee is for optimus if you want the battery life
[17:01] <RyanD> thanks a ton for your help :).
[17:01] <schnuffle> RyanD: setfacl -R  --remove-all /var/www/html
[17:01] <schnuffle> your welcome
[17:02] <ljt> alo21: learning C if you're new to programming would be a rather steep learning curve
[17:02] <alex____1> 3
[17:02] <smw> what is the shortcut to open the dash?
[17:02] <schnuffle> alo21: I would start with python. C has a rather steep learning curve
[17:03] <auronandace> alo21: if your aim is just to be proficient at using ubuntu then you don't need to learn a programming language
[17:03] <smw> schnuffle, only because people learn python first :-P
[17:04] <alo21> ok
[17:04] <schnuffle> smw: :), from python to c is much easier then from php or java
[17:04] <ljt> smw: hold super key?
[17:04] <smw> ljt, I want to open the place where I type in the program name
[17:05] <smw> to replace gnome-do
[17:05] <schnuffle> smw: Alt+F2
[17:05] <Dulak> C has a defensive coding culture that is not required in other languages, so it makes it much harder to code well in, compared to higher level languages.  malloc and pointers being the glaring examples.
[17:05] <ljt> smw: tap super key, or alt-f2
[17:05] <alo21> auronandace: ljt schnuffle ok... so your advice is to change something in ubuntu...
[17:05] <twright> smw: Not true; programming in a in a higher level languages is intrinsically more natural / expressive
[17:05] <`Korvin> Hey, I can't get my sound to work over headphones
[17:05] <alo21> and practice with this OS
[17:05] <smw> ljt, any way to change it from alt f2?
[17:05] <ljt> smw: to another key combination?
[17:05] <smw> yes
[17:06] <auronandace> alo21: you haven't really told us what you want, you need to be more precise than "i want to be good at ubuntu"
[17:06] <ljt> smw: yes no doubt *checks*
[17:06] <alo21> auronandace: right...
[17:06] <schnuffle> alo21: I got all my knowledge by crahsing and rebuilding my system. Even today I started get bored when my system just runs :)
[17:07] <alo21> schnuffle: ahaha :)
[17:07] <auronandace> alo21: a vm is a great practise ground for testing things
[17:08] <alo21> auronandace: I would have more confidance
[17:08] <ljt> smw: I think you'd have to install CCSM
[17:08] <auronandace> alo21: confidence in what?
[17:08] <alo21> auronandace: in general...
[17:09] <alo21> editing ubuntu
[17:09] <ljt> auronandace: in not causing damage and createing problems for him/herself I'm guessing
[17:09] <auronandace> alo21: are you having trouble using a particular desktop environment?
[17:09] <techhelp> Is there an elegant way to extract /a from /a/b/c?  I can only think of using sed.
[17:09] <alo21> auronandace: no... Now I am using unity.
[17:09] <techhelp> a can be any length
[17:10] <ljt> smw: search for compizconfig settings manager in software centre & install it
[17:10] <smw> ljt, ok
[17:10] <schnuffle> techhelp: regexp with sed awk or some perl/python/bash foo
[17:10] <smw> !ccsm
[17:10] <auronandace> alo21: editing how? unity isn't very configurable
[17:10] <guilherme66> Someone is Xiphos Bible software user?
[17:10] <auronandace> alo21: need help installing software?
[17:11] <guilherme66> ?
[17:11] <ljt> smw: when in ccsm, search for unity, the option to edit the hotkey is very obvious
[17:11] <alo21> auronandace: i would edit not only graphic
[17:11] <kjs> Can you guys let me know what is the top domain for this google search ?  http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=linuxmoz&pws=0
[17:11] <smw> ljt, thanks
[17:11] <heoa> How can I get Cairo -pkg (required to run FastRWeb pkg in R)?
[17:12] <auronandace> alo21: i don't understand what you mean by that
[17:12] <heoa> I have already installed all libcairo -pkgs `$sudo apt-get install libcairo*` but still complaining that I do not have the pkg but I would like to know what the pkg is, some image thing apparently...
[17:12] <auronandace> kjs: that isn't ubuntu related
[17:13] <kjs> auronandace: sure, but I often help out in here and the forums :)
[17:13] <alexim> on ubuntu 11.10, i'd like to copy an ext4 disk (/dev/xvdb1) to another smaller ext4 disk (/dev/xvdb2)....what's the brute-force way to do this? i've got plenty of backups, so if either disk is wiped out i don't care
[17:13] <mskazmii_> will
[17:14] <auronandace> kjs: this channel is for ubuntu support issues
[17:14] <alo21> auronandace: have you ever loved being good using ubuntu?
[17:15] <auronandace> alo21: i like using linux in general, ubuntu isn't a specific skillset
[17:16] <schnuffle> alexim: the brut force would be dd but as the second disk is smaller that won't work. I would go for rsync
[17:16] <carl-eric> Is there a way to override GTK3 color settings in Unity? gtkrc-2.0 doesn't work anymore, obviously, and I'd really like to have sane tooltip colors.
[17:16] <alo21> auronandace: what do you mean with "I like using Linux" ?
[17:17] <auronandace> alo21: linux is the kernel, the core of the operating system, ubuntu is just one linux distribution that uses linux at its core
[17:18] <auronandace> alo21: there are many similarities and differences in all linux distributions
[17:18] <dysoco|laptop> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 Beta, I want to Install Cinnamon: So I added the following PPA: "ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable", the problem is, that I do "apt-get update", and then when I do "apt-get install cinnamon", it can't find the package... any ideas ?
[17:19] <alexim> schnuffle: thanks
[17:19] <Nach0z> dysoco|laptop: try apt-cache search cinnamon
[17:19] <ljt> alexim: is the amount of data in xvdb1 more than the capacity of xvdb2?
[17:19] <aldo|2> hello first time in ubuntu, nice !!! but so much prob with the battery thing on loading... happy to be here !
[17:20] <alexim> ljt: nope, xvdb1 will definitely fit in xvdb2
[17:20] <dysoco|laptop> Nach0z, I already did, but it doesn't find anything... might the PPA be OffLine ?
[17:20] <Nach0z> it might be... or, the PPA might not have updated to 12.04 yet
[17:20] <Fyodorovna> !precise | dysoco|laptop
[17:20] <dysoco|laptop> OK, thanks
[17:21] <JelloPop> aldo|2: battery?
[17:22] <ljt> alexim: alexim if you want to copy the whole filesystem, I'd suggest using something like partclone
[17:22] <ljt> alexim: unlike dd, it only copies the data
[17:22] <schnuffle> ljt: +1
[17:23] <alexim> ljt: ah, that sounds like exactly what i want, thanks!
[17:23] <ljt> alexim: you can use the -b (--dev-to-dev) flag
[17:24] <alo21> auronandace: well...
[17:24] <auronandace> alo21: well what?
[17:24] <felipe_Brz> if I want a user to be given owner rights on a directory, does that user need to have access to all directories above the target directory?
[17:24] <JelloPop> ljt: is partclone a part of Nortons Ghost??
[17:25] <felipe_Brz> i mean if a user is not the owner of /directoryA, can he be the owner of directoryA/directoryB ?
[17:25] <ljt> alexim: you might want to shrink the fs first if possible
[17:25] <alo21> auronandace: how can I learn about linux kernel?
[17:25] <schnuffle> felipe_Brz: he needs exec rights to trafers the dir tree
[17:25] <ljt> JelloPop: no, but it works in a similar way
[17:26] <ljt> JelloPop: in fact I went from using norton ghost to partclone
[17:26] <schnuffle> felipe_Brz: If that is not possible you can symlink the dir to a place he has access to
[17:26] <auronandace> alo21: what do you want to learn? internals? take a look at the kernelnewbies website or the lkml
[17:26] <JelloPop> ljt: can Clonezilla back up the whole dirve?
[17:26] <felipe_Brz> hmm thanks... schnuffle
[17:26] <ljt> JelloPop: yes
[17:26] <test_> ubuntu
[17:27] <test_> im going to use.... ubuntu ?
[17:27] <ljt> JelloPop: it can also save the whole drive as separate partitions
[17:27] <llutz_> felipe_Brz: he can
[17:27] <alo21> auronandace: for the beginners
[17:27] <JelloPop> ljt: why is this not the recommended way to save system for recovery in linux??
[17:27] <felipe_Brz> where is the file where all usernames and password are stores?
[17:27] <felipe_Brz> llutz ah thanks i think i got it
[17:28] <schnuffle> felipe_Brz: /etc/&passwd and /etc/shadow
[17:28] <ljt> JelloPop: I have no idea, I swear by it
[17:28] <auronandace> alo21: kernelnewbies is as beginner friendly as i can think of, to get acquainted with the internals of the kernel
[17:28] <auronandace> alo21: i'm not sure what exactly it is you want to learn
[17:29] <ljt> JelloPop: but
[17:29] <JelloPop> ljt: was only the second time someone mentioned this product just never really did a google search till now.. I guess I will have to start recommending this to users...
[17:30] <ljt> JelloPop: when I say save as partitions, it's sometimes easier in case you just want to extract one of the partitions
[17:31] <schnuffle> JelloPop: Really Clonzilla is a really kown tool
[17:31] <ljt> JelloPop: it's a very cool piece of software, I used it to clone a disk image to 10+ machines simultaneously via ethernet
[17:32] <alexim> ljt: indeed, partclone warned about the size difference, but after shrinking xvdb1 down, it worked perfectly. thanks again
[17:32] <JelloPop> ljt: did that with Nortons Ghost ,but is was more disk image to 100 machines had problems
[17:33] <ljt> JelloPop: I had no problems - it was done via multicast. The only limit is your infrastructure
[17:33] <ljt> alexim: glad I could help :)
[17:35] <JelloPop> ljt: just see so many noobs lose date such as music and such... I usually just back up /home and get all debian packages and reload system this may be a life saver when I do one of my Distro Hops next time :). I distro hope about 7 times a year..
[17:37] <ljt> JelloPop: get bored quickly?
[17:38] <lisa1> .
[17:39] <schnuffle> JelloPop: For distro hopping I recommend using a usb stick with multiboot or xboot. I have always a 32GB stick with about 10 linux distros + Windows
[17:40] <lisa1> Ubuntu 11.10 64bit fresh install getting error on boot( no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key )
[17:40] <gandhijee_> carl-eric, which model do you have?  i don't seem to have that option in my bios....  and i had the nvidia stuff running i think... just kept telling me i had to run nvidia-xconfig
[17:40] <gandhijee_> carl-eric, but i don't seem to have that software
[17:40] <schnuffle> lisa1: installed grub to the wrong place?
[17:41] <Kyshtynbai> Hi everyone! I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with Gnome 2. From time to time, after exiting a full-screen application (wine game for example) I get a total mess of applets up in the upper panel. How do I make a backup of panel preferences in order to restore it after I have such an error again? Now I have to reset panel and kill all gnome-panel and than restore all my application launchers manually.
[17:41] <carl-eric> gandhijee_, I'm using a Dell Latitude E6520
[17:41] <dr_willis> gandhijee_:  its included with the nvidia drivers pacakte i belive. run it from the terminal
[17:41] <carl-eric> gandhijee_, the correct name for the settings tool is nvidia-settings
[17:42] <carl-eric> gandhijee_, *not* nvidia-xconfig
[17:42] <Strav> Hi. I'm trying to compile and install a patched vanilla kernel (2.6.36.2 + grsecurity) with module support disabled (hence everything is part of a "monolithic" kernel). The host system is ubuntu 10.04, is there anything I should know to make this work? I succeeded installing it with the stack config, some basic options and modules enabled, but if I try to disable the modules, it seems I get a kernel panic. Any howto I could refer for
[17:42] <Strav> installing a kernel with no modules?
[17:42] <dr_willis> I belive nvidia-xconfig used to be a name of the NON-X/Non-GUI config tool.. while nvidia-settings IS the GUI/X app..
[17:43] <dr_willis> Strav:  dare we ask why you are not using modules?
[17:43] <dr_willis> !kernel
[17:44] <Strav> dr_willis: I don't the details, but I've read it's a good security practice to limit/void the possiblity to load a modified kernel module.
[17:45] <Strav> dr_willis: "I don't know the details ..."
[17:45] <Lucho35>  Hi, I'm installing ubuntu server and I'm having some problems doing update. All it seems that Argentina servers are not working quite well. 
[17:46] <Lucho35>  may someone tell me how may I change the servers from the command line? 
[17:46] <dr_willis> Strav:  i seem recall there being reasons for perfering modules. like module options at load time, and reduceing the kernel size..  but ive not had to mess with the kernel in ages.. I think your good practice..may be leaning towards the paranoid. :)
[17:46] <auronandace> Strav: do you expect a modified kernel module to be loaded without your knowledge?
[17:47] <dr_willis> auronandace:  :)  i was wondering about that also...
[17:48] <dr_willis> sounds like somthing for #kernel perhaps?
[17:48] <alessio> hi all
[17:48] <alessio> anyone can help me please??
[17:48] <alessio> I have some problems with gnome 3 shell
[17:48] <alessio> and the menu icons
[17:48] <auronandace> Strav: if you are maintaining the machine and installing updates (including kernel ones) then you should know all the modules being loaded
[17:49] <dr_willis> no need to hit enter every 4 words alessio
[17:49] <gandhijee_> ohhh
[17:49] <Strav> auronandace: as I said, I'm not fully aware of the details of this security issue, but can't someone who have root privilege can replace a kernel module with a modified one and instore some quite hard to trace security concern in your system?
[17:49] <alessio> ok I'm sorry dr-willis...There's any italian here??
[17:49] <gandhijee_> thanks carl-eric and dr_willis
[17:49] <test_> q
[17:50] <auronandace> Strav: and how do they gain root access and dynamically load the kernel module without you noticing?
[17:50] <alessio> I try to speak english...Anyone know how to move the menu's icons?? I tried to use gconf, ubuntu tweak and gnome tweak tool but nothing =(
[17:51] <schnuffle> !it | alessio
[17:51] <genii-around> Lucho35: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file with admin rights, change the URLs there, save it and do sudo apt-get update. A list of mirrors is here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors  ..you find which URL name to use in the sources.list by clicking on it's name
[17:53] <majoo> can i pause package donwload
[17:55] <Echmeyer> t
[17:55] <soreau> majoo: You can just abort the download. It should automatically save what's already downloaded
[17:55] <majoo> thanx
[17:57] <Strav> auronandace: how should I notice each and every exploit there's around? (my server once got compromised from a roundcube (php webmail) exploit for which there was no patch at the time), I only noticed it when their stuff began to run (100% cpu usage alerts and stuff).
[17:58] <kaspir> Could somebody give me a hand in setting up network sharing between 2 machines
[17:59] <auronandace> Strav: disabling all kernel modules sounds overkill to me
[17:59] <blez> I'm running ubuntu 10.10 in vmware
[17:59] <Strav> auronandace: the thing is, I have to setup a small cluster that requires near 100% uptime. If I read the "securing debian" manual and they say: a good way to ensure that no low level code is run without your knowledge is to use a kernel compiled without module support, I guess it's not a bad thing to want to try it out.
[17:59] <blez> I can't run my desktop composition
[18:00] <auronandace> Strav: for a server wouldn't that mean that any change you make to your kernel you would have to suffer downtime to recompile?
[18:00] <blez> anyone know how to enable it?
[18:00] <Strav> auronandace: well the thing is, aside from disabling module support in the kernel options, I haven't seen a way to only enable the loading of a certain set of modules except perhaps by explicitly blacklisting the rest of them.
[18:01] <dlentz> blez, you mean compositing?
[18:01] <schnuffle> Strav: for apache there s mod_security and selinux or apparmor can help a lot as well. It wont fix the existing bugs but restricts what can be done
[18:01] <rhizmoe> it would be cool if update manager let you uninstall things from its interface. "uninstall this thing i never use but needs an update"
[18:01] <blez> dlentz yes
[18:02] <dlentz> rhizmoe, that's what synaptic is for (and why i don't use update-mangler)
[18:02] <Datz> Hi, ever since the last kernel update, my video driver I use isn't working. I'm on 10.04, and I can only get video if I boot to low graphics mode. The kernel that I'm on is 2.6.32-40, but the previous kernels don't work now to correct the problem.
[18:02] <oxidizer> jjf
[18:02] <auronandace> Strav: from a security standpoint, yes disabling module support would prevent that from being an attack vector, but any updates to your kernel will force downtime on you
[18:02] <mobiusstripper> hi all, i have a machine with an onboard intel card and an nvidia card for cuda development. I would like to use the onboard card for display, but X would not start GLX extension with the nvidia card plugged in so...no compositing effects.
[18:02] <dlentz> blez, i think you need ubuntu 12.04 and recent vmware to get 3d
[18:02] <mobiusstripper> is it possible to tell X to just use the intel card?
[18:02] <rhizmoe> dlentz: right, but does synaptic do updates too?
[18:02] <blez> aha
[18:02] <oxidizer> OOps
[18:02] <rhizmoe> Strav: the phrase you want to search for is "static kernel"
[18:03] <blez> can I run 12 with Gnome?
[18:03] <auronandace> Strav: i guess you just have to weigh up the likelyhood of it being exploited with the negative effects of downtime
[18:03] <Strav> auronandace: yes I considered this, and actually I don't exactly know what's the best way to deal with this: are there many kernel security updates?
[18:03] <schnuffle> Strav: And for servers its a good idea to disable udev
[18:03] <oxidizer> Hi
[18:03] <dlentz> blez: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2ODM
[18:04] <Strav> rhizmoe: thanks :)
[18:04] <blez> dlentz but does 10.10 have composition by default outside vmware?
[18:04] <dlentz> rhizmoe, yes, synaptic does upgrades
[18:04] <schnuffle> Strav: Quite some. But for the purpose of 100% availibilty you will have to check every security bulletin to see if the problem affects you
[18:05] <dlentz> iirc, 10.10 has desktop effects enabled by default if supported
[18:05] <blez> that's cool.
[18:05] <blez> I wanna do an app that uses them. Is that the same for other popular distros?
[18:06] <Datz> Ok, so when I boot I get (EE) No supported AMD display adapters werefount, No Devices detected.
[18:06] <Guest50552> hiya
[18:06] <blez> last time I uses linux was before it has those fancy things :)
[18:07] <Datz> fancy pants GUI?
[18:07] <Guest50552> hello everu 1
[18:07] <auronandace> blez: just so you know, 10.10 is eol next month
[18:07] <Datz> nevermind I figured it out as much as I need to.
[18:08] <blez> auronandace what's eol?
[18:08] <Strav> schnuffle: well, I hope it won't come to this. I'm not looking forward to recompiling the kernel each time there's a security alert, the grsecurity patches don't play well with every kernel versions. Hopefully I could put the whole thing behind a vpn.
[18:08] <auronandace> !eol | blez
[18:08] <blez> aha
[18:08] <rhizmoe> dlentz: thanks
[18:10] <blez> dlentz is ubuntu 12 stable?
[18:10] <schnuffle> Strav: Normally you don' switch kernel versions. F.e. Centos 5 has still and old kernel
[18:10] <blez> looks like 11.10 is the last stable version
[18:10] <auronandace> blez: should be when it is released
[18:10] <dougmencken> hi
[18:13] <Strav> rhizmoe: You know if there are know issues with using a static kernel underneath a standard ubuntu install (10.04 in this very case)?
[18:13] <sidash> :q
[18:14] <auronandace> Strav: if you aren't using the default kernel from the ubuntu repos then we can't support you
[18:15] <neohashi> Every time I update the linux kernel (ubuntu 10.04) my nvidia driver gets snuffed.. so I have to install the driver again in order to get opengl running? can I somehow avoid this issue?
[18:15] <Strav> auronandace: yea I'm not asking officially though...
[18:15] <Diaz> Hello. Anyone got a second to help me? :)
[18:15] <auronandace> Strav: ah, sorry
[18:16] <neohashi> btw.. I use the NVIDIA installer since I want support for 3.* opengl context
[18:16] <auronandace> Diaz: depends on your problem
[18:16] <lisa1> Ubuntu 11.10 64bit fresh install getting error on boot( no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key )
[18:16] <dysun> #swift
[18:17] <JelloPop> schnuffle: thanks srry stepped away from computer.. Yes have 8 gig stick want 16 gig stick to run Multiboot on I use Multipass right now.. I know yumi.exe does multipass for u. I want to learn setup for windows.exe apps
[18:17] <Diaz> auronandace: Well.. I'm trying to install mediawiki on apache2.. Put it all in the www folder, but when I go to the location in my browser, as the guide tells me to, it prompts me to download the file, instead of showing me the setup thingie its supposed to show me
[18:17] <multipass> i feel used
[18:18] <paolo> ciao
[18:18] <JelloPop> multipass: why would u name ur self after an app?
[18:18] <multipass> JelloPop: it's time you google multipass
[18:18] <auronandace> Diaz: ah, sorry, beyond my expertise
[18:19] <Diaz> auronadance: Well, thanks anyways :)
[18:19] <JelloPop> multipass: hak5.org there is a multipass episode
[18:20] <JelloPop> multipass: here u go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY4uBcN593M
[18:20] <Diaz> So anyone else able to help me? When I try to run a setup thing for a "program" (multiwiki) in apache2, it only prompts me to download the file, and dosent show me the setup stuff
[18:21] <multipass> JelloPop: neat, but its no http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV_eGm1qgGs
[18:21] <wonderman> hi, can someone tell me how i can assign function buttons in ubuntu? got a new laptop, and most of them work apart from screen brightness
[18:22] <Diaz> Anyone able to help me? :)
[18:22] <Mommy> hi, guys!
[18:23] <Guest64964> Can I practice my english here?
[18:23] <kaspir> Im having trouble setting up a shared network between two linux machines. I've done all the necessary set up to my knowledge but I'm still not getting any connections between the two
[18:23] <dougmencken> Guest64964: only afroamerican dialect :)
[18:23] <Guest64964> I had been masturbating before my mom came.
[18:24] <Guest64964> past perfectprogressive
[18:24] <Guest64964> =)
[18:24] <Guest64964> Am I right?
[18:24] <dougmencken> sounds wierd
[18:25] <Diaz> Anyone got the time to help me out? :)
[18:25] <dougmencken> Diaz: the question?
[18:25] <genii-around> Guest64964: This area is for people needing help with their Ubuntu.
[18:25] <kaspir> can somebody plz help me with file sharing, is there a package I'm missing or a setting i don't know about
[18:25] <dougmencken> kaspir: apt-get install ssh scp
[18:26] <Diaz> dougmencken: Trying to install some "program" (multiwiki) on an apache2 server, got all the files in the right place, but when I go to the file location, as the guide tells me to (localhost/multiwiki), it only prompts me to download the file, and dosent show me the setup thingie its supposed to show
[18:26] <kaspir> dougmenken: unable to locate
[18:27] <JelloPop> multipass: Srry, cant decide which multipass is better ,but ur says ur married to corben Dallas mine just loads distros... I think I will stick with my multipass..
[18:27] <dougmencken> Diaz: home for apache2?
[18:27] <multipass> JelloPop: lol.
[18:27] <Diaz> dougmencken: I'm sorry, what?
[18:27] <dougmencken> Diaz: actually, ask on #httpd
[18:28] <rhizmoe> Strav: the best way is to try on an unused box. i'm sure there are some default bits in 10.10 that might depend on modules, but i don't know for sure or which ones.
[18:28] <Diaz> dougmencken: somewhy I can't talk in that channel
[18:28] <dougmencken> Diaz: try to register your nick with nickserv
[18:29] <schnuffle> Diaz: you miss the php module or perl or whatever runs multiwiki
[18:29] <nadiyama> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 11.10 in a new laptop and I want to create a new NTFS partition (a separate partition) but Gparted can't create NTFS partitions, any clue?
[18:29] <Diaz> Schuffle: I did install PHP..
[18:30] <schnuffle> Diaz: How? and did you make sure its acctivated e.d. a2enmod php5?
[18:30] <Diaz> schnuffle: What? I really have no idea what you just said.. :)
[18:30] <kaspir> somebody plz help with file sharing. I've tried samba and ssh and neither has made a difference. Just keep getting the same errors
[18:32] <schnuffle> Diaz:  Okay apache2 can server php with the php module or with fastcgi. To use the apache2 php module you need to install libapache2-mod-php5
[18:32] <nadiyama> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 11.10 in a new laptop and I want to create a new NTFS partition (a separate partition) but Gparted can't create NTFS partitions, any clue?
[18:33] <Diaz> schnuffle: Right, got that installed now
[18:33] <schnuffle> Diaz: okay now place a info.php in /var/www with  <? phpinfo() ?> in it and call localhost/info.php
[18:33] <Guest64964> had applescript ported on Linux platform?
[18:34] <escott> nadiyama, why not just ask windows to create the partition?
[18:34] <nadiyama> escott: It can?
[18:35] <Diaz> schnuffle: Done
[18:35] <schnuffle> Diaz:  And? what do you see?
[18:35] <escott> nadiyama, ?? not sure how to answer that. of course windows can create ntfs partitions. if it couldn't that would be very very strange
[18:35] <Diaz> schnuffle: When I go to the file thingie?
[18:36] <Diaz> schnuffle: Prompts me to download it
[18:36] <schnuffle> Diaz: Yes http://localhost/info.php. Be sure to restart the server after having installed the module
[18:36] <Diaz> schnuffle: ah..:P
[18:36] <nadiyama> escott: I mean, I didn't know Windows has partition tools.
[18:37] <TheSimkin> you guys are so helpful
[18:37] <TheSimkin> nadiyama: what partition tools does windows have??
[18:37] <caB00T> I went Synaptic Package Manager -> Typed in "gnome-device-manager" And then got gpe-appmanager, I mark it for install, it gives me the menu with some things and a "mark" button, I click on it, and get: "gpe-appmanager: Depends: gpe-confg but it won't be installed. Any ideas?
[18:37] <TheSimkin> all i've seen is the disk manager
[18:37] <Diaz> schnuffle: I see loads of info about PHP
[18:37] <TheSimkin> and it sucks
[18:37] <Diaz> schnuffle: System info, etc etc etc
[18:37] <escott> nadiyama, ok your problem is the partitioning not the creation of the fs. windows does have partitioning tools, but for now just create an empty partition (don't specify an fs) and then you can make the ntfs filesystem on it in windows
[18:37] <schnuffle> Diaz: That means php works, now try your wiki install
[18:38] <Diaz> schnuffle: AAAND it works.. Thanks a lot!
[18:38] <nadiyama> Yep I did it with gparted, but when I wanted to create a new one, there was no option for ntfs.
[18:38] <Diaz> schnuffle: Thank you so so much!
[18:38] <CellTech> Blackberry Bold will no longer 'mount' for mass storage
[18:39] <schnuffle> Diaz: your welcome. Just some more tips. I its a public facing server, better use fastcgi, suexec and shuhosin
[18:39] <Diaz> schnuffle: You lost me again :)
[18:40] <schnuffle> Diaz: :) Is your server accessible on the internet?
[18:40] <Diaz> schnuffle: Yeah, but it dosent recive a huge ammount of traffic
[18:41] <schnuffle> Diaz: Its less about traffic more about security. The php module runs under the same user then the apache server. Fastcgi can seperate the web server process and the php process and suexec and shuhosin are security enhancements
[18:42] <el_ruso> Hi, my usb drives are not mounted automatically, how can i fix it? (ubuntu 11.10)
[18:43] <Diaz> schnuffle: Right.. Complicated install?
[18:43] <fernando_> Hello I want a video editor for my ubuntu 10.04 so I can burn mp4 files to dvd
[18:43] <el_ruso> fernando_: try with devede
[18:44] <fernando_> is that a ful application
[18:44] <escott> fernando_, also look at pitivi
[18:44] <schnuffle> Diaz: Not really, but it can be tricky, if file rights and paths are wrong it will not work. But there should be plenty of howtos
[18:44] <soreau> fernando_: Try devede. It can do a title screen and encode most formats to burn to dvd
[18:44] <el_ruso> fernando_: correct! it creates everything you need to run a dvd on dvd player
[18:45] <CellTech> Missing drivers to mount blackberry mass storage
[18:45] <L3top> I need a less complicated way to ping for available upgrades other than apt-get upgrade /no.
[18:45] <Diaz> schnuffle: RIght, I will look into it. What did you call them again? :)
[18:45] <L3top> in fact... when sshing in there is a record of avail come to think of it
[18:45] <schnuffle> Diaz: fastcgi, suexec, shuhosin
[18:46] <Diaz> schnuffle: Thanks! :)
[18:46] <jn_> Libreoffice question: How can I show my data below my graph like this guys is doing: http://imgur.com/JbIXl
[18:47] <el_ruso> My USB doesn't mount automatically, how can i fix it? (i use Ubuntu 11.10)
[18:47] <schnuffle> el_ruso: have you udev running?
[18:48] <soreau> jn_: Maybe try #openoffice.org
[18:48] <el_ruso> schnuffle: aparently no :(
[18:48] <jn_> ty
[18:49] <schnuffle> el_ruso: check it to be sure
[18:50] <el_ruso> schnuffle: how can i check it up?
[18:50] <schnuffle> el_ruso: ps aux | grep udev
[18:51] <escott> el_ruso, also check if "plugdev" is listed in `groups` and if there is an entry for this usb in /etc/fstab
[18:52] <el_ruso> schnuffle: is running
[18:53] <el_ruso> escott: my fstab only have my 3 partitions /,/home and /swap
[18:53] <caB00T> Ok so I found out that the gnome-device-manager is discontinued, any equivalent you guys reccomend?
[18:53] <Fishmeistercod> Um... Hello? I need some help getting started. ^^;;
[18:54] <el_ruso> schnuffle: udevd is running
[18:55] <caB00T> I would in other words like to have a Device Manager (window) equivalent?
[18:55] <schnuffle> el_ruso: check if usbmount is installed
[18:56] <Fishmeistercod> Pretty much, I followed all the instructions on the website, used the USB Manager to put the Ubuntu setup on my flash, and tried booting from it. I waited, and waited, half an hour later, still just a black screen. I re-installed to try again, but same result. D:
[18:57] <schnuffle> Fishmeistercod: which tool did you use?
[18:57] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | Fishmeistercod
[18:57] <el_ruso> schnuffle: it works, appreciate it
[18:57] <Fishmeistercod> Cool, thanks. I'll try that now. :>
[18:57] <caB00T> Nothing? :\
[18:57] <el_ruso> schnuffle: thank you! | escott thank you too
[18:57] <Fishmeistercod> I used Universal USB Installer, by the way.
[18:57] <schnuffle> el_ruso: what did you change between it fails and it works?
[18:58] <Fyodorovna> Fishmeistercod, you can also try the alternative for a text install.
[18:58] <el_ruso> schnuffle: i installed usbmount
[18:58] <dlentz> sbkpzix1
[18:58] <schnuffle> el_ruso: okay then have a good time
[18:58] <dlentz> oops, sorry
[18:58] <nukke> X
[18:58] <el_ruso> schnuffle: you too! thanks alot
[18:59] <Fishmeistercod> Okay, so I took a look at the page, but there's a small problem. I don't even get to the Ubuntu splash screen. As soon as I tell it to boot from USB, it derps to the black screen. :|
[19:00] <Fyodorovna> Fishmeistercod, did you look at the nomodeset link?
[19:00] <Fishmeistercod> Or did I miss something important on the page? ^^:;
[19:00] <Fyodorovna> Fishmeistercod, tap the shift to get to the early gui hit f6 tick nomodeset.
[19:01] <Fishmeistercod> Okay, cool. I'll go try that now. :>
[19:01] <bcurtiswx> caB00T, ask your question in here and someone will be able to answer it soon :)
[19:02] <schnuffle> !anyone | bcurtiswx
[19:02] <nukke> i have a question about window managers. i was reading a how-to guide on xmonad and it mentioned that it can run on top of gnome.
[19:02] <schnuffle> bcurtiswx: sorry
[19:02] <caB00T> @bcurtiswx tnx
[19:02] <nukke> how does that work? i thought it was a standalone manager
[19:02] <bcurtiswx> schnuffle, lol, np :)
[19:03] <caB00T> The gnome-device-manager is discontinued, I am using 11.10 with Gnome installed, I need a reccomendation on what to use instead? I am a total newb switching from Windows (hopefully)?
[19:04] <schnuffle> caB00T: what has the device manager to do for you?
[19:04] <dlentz> gnome-device-manager just gave system info, terminal commands (lshw, lscpi, dmidecode, etc. are better for this)
[19:07] <caB00T> I am following a book, "Begining Ubuntu Linux" by Keir Thommas and Andy Chanelle, and this chapter is obv outdated, just don't want to skip stuff.
[19:07] <caB00T> If you guys think it's unimportant it's great, just need some feedback.
[19:07] <savid> What is required for a user to be able to chown/chgrp a file or directory?  Does the user always have to be root to chown/chgrp?
[19:07] <caB00T> It was suppose to act like the Device Manager from Windows.
[19:08] <schnuffle> caB00T: as dlentz stated, better use command line tools or tr to learn them
[19:08] <JelloPop> jn_:looked at it copyed chart to write and inserted table below and edited it....
[19:08] <schnuffle> try
[19:08] <genii-around> savid: You can chown if you already are the user or group which owns them
[19:08] <savid> genii-around,  do I have to be the owner of that file?
[19:09] <caB00T> Alright, will do. I do plan on going as deep as possible, just don't wanna make gaps, they tend to hurt later on. )
[19:09] <genii-around> savid: Yes
[19:09] <caB00T> :)
[19:09] <escott> savid, the concern is "chown to root" attacks so if it would be chowning to something you don't control that will be disallowed
[19:10] <caB00T> One more thing, I installed the Gnome package cuz I prefer it over the new one in 11.10, but it does not load by default, so far I've been logging out and changing, how do I make it default?
[19:10] <schnuffle> caB00T: especially because the whole driver story is different from windows. UNder windows every hardware has a cd with drivers. in linux the drivers come with the distribution
[19:10] <caB00T> Mhm, alright.
[19:10] <schnuffle> caB00T: you mean you have autologin enabled?
[19:11] <caB00T> Yes.
[19:11] <User47> can i get some help in here ?
[19:11] <escott> !help | User47
[19:11] <schnuffle> caB00T: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1734015
[19:12] <caB00T> Thank you schnuffle!
[19:12] <schnuffle> caB00T: your welcome
[19:14] <JelloPop> User47: yes u can get help here?
[19:14] <jdmshiz> Can i get a recommendation on a website that has cool themes or another site that shows u how to customize the ubuntu theme
[19:14] <mehdi> hey guys my firefox version is 11 an i use ubuntu 11.10 64bit when i open 5 tabs its not responding what shoudl i do to make performance better?
[19:14] <User47> i can't install systems on my virtual machine (in virtualbox), i tried tu use a .vdi preinstalled hdd , no way too , any idea ?
[19:15] <escott> !details | User47
[19:16] <MrHanjra1> !pong
[19:16] <caB00T> @User47, you make a new virtual machine, select Ubuntu, and download the .iso cd from their website. Insert the virtual drive and install it like on a fresh mashine.
[19:16] <JelloPop> escott: u all right there using a virtualbox?
[19:16] <caB00T> You put the disc in on settings->storage and there's an add disc icon.
[19:16] <schnuffle> mehdi: any uncommon plugins?
[19:17] <JelloPop> User47: are u using windows or Ubuntu? for the virtualbox
[19:17] <Ramiel> why can't apt find this version?  sudo apt-get install pidgin=1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2~P20120323
[19:17] <mehdi> schnuffle,  no just installed firebug and downthemall
[19:17] <MrHanjra1> User47: as in host | grep JelloPop's post :P
[19:17] <schnuffle> mehdi: then check if you have the same problem after you disbaled both
[19:18] <xangua> Ramiel: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[19:18] <xangua> nothing else
[19:18] <Scott_Z> Where can I get newbie help with WINE?
[19:18] <Ramiel> why can't apt find this version?  sudo apt-get install pidgin=1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2~P20120323, I've added ppa:renatosilva/ppa and apt-get updated and
[19:18] <auronandace> !wine | Scott_Z
[19:19] <schnuffle> Ramiel: just install pidgin wihtout verion, it should grab the newest version
[19:19] <JelloPop> Ramiel: third party ppa are not trusted ppa's by ubuntu
[19:19] <caB00T> How do I edit .conf files? I can't seem to be able to rewrite after making changes?
[19:19] <Ramiel> schnuffle: what makes you think I want the newest not an specific version?
[19:19] <schnuffle> caB00T: that means you nedd root rights to open it. So use sudo or gtksu
[19:20] <pspba> Olá pessoal
[19:20] <caB00T> Alright, will do my best to decode what you said! :p
[19:20] <pspba> sou novo na area
[19:20] <schnuffle> Ramiel: my guess was that one uses a ppa only to get newer versions
[19:20] <Fyodorovna> !es | pspba
[19:20] <Ramiel> JelloPop: thanks... but I can't understand how it answers the question, sorry. Besides, I'm the author of the patch, and I trust myself
[19:20] <oCean> !br | pspba
[19:20] <xangua> Fyodorovna: it's portuguese
[19:20] <User47> i'm running 12.04 64bits, i want to run Sql server so i need xp but it dosen't work in Virtualbox 4.1.10 , & when i use a previousely installed vdi image the system run very slowly , no way to use it
[19:20] <jdmshiz> Can i get a recommendation on a website that has cool themes
[19:20] <xangua> !pangolin | User47
[19:21] <oCean> User47: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[19:21] <pspba> gracias
[19:21] <Ramiel> schnuffle: it's a patched version of mine
[19:22] <schnuffle> Ramiel: then I would search for pidgin and see if maybe the name is different then the you think
[19:22] <JelloPop> Ramiel: how posted the ppa u?  You sure u have the right kernel for the version of pidgin??
[19:22] <User47> i know all that , i tried it even in Oneirc it dosen't work too
[19:22] <JelloPop> how = who
[19:22] <oCean> User47: nvm, if you are currently running 12.04, it's offtopic for this channel. Maybe try #vbox
[19:23] <MrHanjrah> rules to be followed anyhow
[19:23] <schnuffle> User47: have you a CPU with virt extensions? If so I would use KVM
[19:23] <Ramiel> schnuffle: apt-cache search? it returns the main pidgin package and an undesided version from the ppa...
[19:23] <User47> oCean i have 4 pc s , i 'm running 4 different versions of Linux , it dosen't work anywhere
[19:24] <oCean> User47: exactly my point, it is not an ubuntu issue. Ask in #vbox
[19:24] <Ramiel> schnuffle: maybe it's a bug with the ppa system because...
[19:25] <Ramiel> schnuffle: I have the ~P20120315 published but it's technically superseded by already deleted dash versions
[19:25] <User47> schnuffle: i have a sandy bridge i5 cpu with intel virtualisation
[19:25] <Hans_Henrik> any1 know what package i need? or what i need to do? trying to compile a program (a TFS-otserv), and on linking i get the error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysql
[19:25] <Socket-> an intel xeon can run: precise-server-amd64.iso right?
[19:25] <schnuffle> Ramiel: what gives apt-cache showpkg pidgin?
[19:25] <Ramiel> schnuffle: or maybe it's not available because only i386 build is finished (maybe I should wait for amd64, I mean)
[19:26] <schnuffle> Ramiel: okay
[19:26] <Ramiel> schnuffle: a sec...
[19:27] <schnuffle> Ramiel: otherwise you could try to use the -t switch to tell apt to use the ppa
[19:29] <Ramiel> schnuffle: showpkg shows the same versions as search: 1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2 (main) and 1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2-P20120315 (undesired)
[19:30] <animalitos_> guys can anyone help me how to install loic in ubuntu 10.10????
[19:31] <schnuffle> Ramiel: that is not the same as you stated: pidgin=1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2~P20120323  you see the ~ insttaead of the -?
[19:32] <schnuffle> Ramiel: so maybe its just a typo
[19:32] <Ramiel> schnuffle: correct, that's not the same, you see also the different day?
[19:33] <Ramiel> schnuffle: it's reasonable to have '-20120315' as latest package in the ppa and hence to have it shown in apt-cache search and such...
[19:33] <schnuffle> Ramiel: so what happens when you try to install  sudo apt-get install pidgin=1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2-P20120315
[19:33] <rub> hello
[19:33] <Ramiel> schnuffle: (because it wasn't completely deleted yet from ppa, it takes 7 days)
[19:35] <Ramiel> schnuffle: the real problem is how to make it find that 'older' version (it will change from 'older' to 'unique' as far as the 7 days pass on)
[19:35] <animalitos_> guys can anyone help me how to install loic in ubuntu 10.10????
[19:35] <animalitos_> guys can anyone help me how to install loic in ubuntu 10.10????
[19:35] <animalitos_> guys can anyone help me how to install loic in ubuntu 10.10????
[19:35] <FloodBot1> animalitos_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <physically_fit> haha
[19:35] <physically_fit> alimalitos
[19:35] <animalitos_> what
[19:35] <Ramiel> schnuffle: I don't want to install the dash version
[19:36] <_Marcus> animalitos_: No need to spam, just ask once
[19:36] <_Marcus> Use Mono to run the exe file
[19:37] <_Marcus> Install Mono then, in terminal, type "mono loic.exe". Make sure that you are in the same directory as it though(so if it's ~/loic.exe, you should be in ~)
[19:37] <almoxarife> loic should not discussed, for a whole lot of reasons
[19:38] <_Marcus> almoxarife: Why?
[19:38] <schnuffle> Ramiel: so apparently im not really getting your problem
[19:38] <almoxarife> ddos!
[19:38] <_Marcus> It can also be used as a tool for other things
[19:38] <almoxarife> _Marcus: I doubt it
[19:41] <Hans_Henrik> if i really, really, really want the process to die, should i use SIGKILL or SIGTERM ? (or something else?)
[19:41] <dig> hi, how can i reinstall ubuntu's generic kernel?
[19:41] <almoxarife> Hans_Henrik: pkill works for me everytime
[19:41] <Ramiel> schnuffle: as you can see here, the package is published (although superseded): https://launchpad.net/~renatosilva/+archive/ppa/+packages
[19:42] <Ramiel> schnuffle: hence apt-get install package=that-version should work, but it's not working
[19:42] <schnuffle> Ramiel: i see, but i must admit im no ppa expert
[19:43] <JelloPop> Ramiel: I would suggest running arch linux for beta testing to purge package and reinstall with aur
[19:43] <MrHanjrah> Hans_Henrik: killing a process, close it, really killing it use killall, rally really killing it use killall -a (pid)
[19:43] <Bzerker> hello?
[19:43] <almoxarife> JelloPop: synaptic will 'downgrade' a package and its in ubuntu, with a gui even as evil as that is
[19:43] <Bzerker> sorry, bye!
[19:44] <Bzerker> quit
[19:44] <Hans_Henrik> MrHanjrah: used killall , nothing happend, proccess still alive. used killall -w -g    and killall never returned and no output.
[19:44] <almoxarife> Hans_Henrik: what process and who owns it?
[19:44] <Hans_Henrik> MrHanjrah: according to ayecee #linux  : sigkill is the signal of last resort
[19:45] <Hans_Henrik> almoxarife: right now doesnt matter, root is killing it
[19:45] <MrHanjrah> Hans_Henrik: what process you are trying to kisll anyway
[19:45] <schnuffle> to really kill somethin use kill -p <pid>
[19:45] <Hans_Henrik> MrHanjrah: a process with gdb (deugger) attached.
[19:45] <schnuffle> sorry kill -9
[19:45] <Hans_Henrik> MrHanjrah: (TFS otserv, but should not be significant)
[19:45] <MrHanjrah> Hans_Henrik: schnuffle says it all :
[19:45] <MrHanjrah> :)
[19:45] <tck8> is it possible to rate limit for apache based on the user agent?
[19:46] <Hans_Henrik> tck8: ask #httpd
[19:47] <tck8> it looks like it's moderated.. i can't send text there
[19:47] <schnuffle> tck8: it is but as Hans_Henrik said better ask  #httpd
[19:49] <schnuffle> tck8: is your nick registered?
[19:49] <tck8> oh that's probably why
[19:49] <_Marcus> tck8: To talk in #httpd, you have to register your nick. Ask #freenode for help doing so if you are having trouble with it
[19:49] <webnet> anyone know if gnome 2.26 is still in the repositories?
[19:49] <almoxarife> tck8: http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/blocking-bots-based-on-useragent <-- look at that
[19:50] <MrHanjrah> freenode does not allow posting i channels if the nick isnt registered :/
[19:50] <MrHanjrah> s/i /in
[19:50] <webnet> hasnt been used since 9.04 i think...
[19:50] <flamen> webnet me lees
[19:50] <_Marcus> almoxarife: That has nothing to do with it
[19:50] <webnet> flamen, ??
[19:51] <flamen> no se
[19:51] <almoxarife> _Marcus: perhaps you can assist tck9
[19:51] <flamen> eso ponia
[19:51] <_Marcus> almoxarife: People already have.
[19:51] <pangolin> !es | flamen
[19:51] <webnet> flamen, english plz?
[19:52] <webnet> hmm i wonder if this would work... !info gnome-2.26
[19:52] <flamen> yo lo que quiero saber como instalar los plugins de gyachi me los pide pero tengo ubuntu 11.04 y ya me e bajado un mazo de la pagina que pone y nada
[19:52] <webnet> !info gnome-2.26
[19:53] <webnet> ok cool so its not in oneric is it in maverick's repo?
[19:53] <Mene-Mene> I was initially set as an Administrator, so I set myself to a standard account, now it's asking for a root password, but I don't remember setting a root password.
[19:53] <auronandace> webnet: why do you need that version?
[19:53] <almoxarife> !es
[19:53] <webnet> retheming of the login screen auronandace
[19:53] <schnuffle> Mene-Mene:  use sudo, if your user has the proper rights you can become root only knowing your own password
[19:54] <webnet> its not supported (to my knowledge ) after that version of gnome
[19:54] <schnuffle> Mene-Mene: per default the root account is disabled
[19:54] <flamen> si
[19:54] <flamen> si este canal
[19:54] <flamen> es español
[19:54] <Ramiel> schnuffle: good news... it started to find the version after amd64 build...
[19:54] <flamen> es lo ke yo hago
[19:54] <oCean> flamen: /join #ubuntu-e
[19:54] <almoxarife> !es
[19:54] <webnet> !en | flamen
[19:54] <mschulz> @Mene-Mene: try "su passwd root" while on the shell. If you've never set a root password it should ask for your user pw and then allow you to set root pw
[19:54] <auronandace> webnet: so you want to retheme gdm?
[19:54] <flamen> pero no ahy mas canales ?
[19:54] <webnet> auronandace,  yessir
[19:54] <schnuffle> Ramiel: perfect at least the time  i wasted for you solved the problem :)
[19:54] <Ramiel> schnuffle: that is, it seems we have to wait all builds to finish before having the version available
[19:54] <oCean> flamen: please stop
[19:55] <pangolin> flamen, Escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[19:55] <webnet> !es | flamen
[19:55] <auronandace> !info gdm | webnet
[19:55] <oCean> webnet: that's enough
[19:55] <Ramiel> schnuffle: thanks anyway
[19:55] <webnet> oCean,  okie dokie
[19:55] <Mene-Mene> thanks, problem solved.
[19:55] <schnuffle> Ramiel: it is me that learned something
[19:55] <caB00T> If I can't (or don't know how to) use sudo in command line, since I need to edit a .config file, can I log in as root or something?
[19:56] <schnuffle> Mene-Mene: your welcome
[19:56] <webnet> auronandace, cool thanks
[19:56] <pangolin> caB00T, sudo nano filename
[19:56] <schnuffle> caB00T: the root account  disabled
[19:57] <caB00T> Alright, will dig to what sudo nano is.
[19:57] <JelloPop> almoxarife: I read up on packagename=version I guess it can be done ... not my cup of tea... still would come down to testers platform..
[19:57] <Ramiel> schnuffle: no real "knowledge" but me too
[19:57] <schnuffle> caB00T: or type: gksu gedit /path/to/conffile
[19:57] <auronandace> webnet: 11.04 is the last release with gnome2.* available
[19:57] <pangolin> caB00T, nano is a text editor, sudo lets you run it with administrator privileges
[19:58] <almoxarife> caB00T: what schnuffle said, gui is good
[19:58] <caB00T> Aaaa, alright, alright... Tnx guys, a lot. :)
[19:58] <schnuffle> caB00T: we have to thank, its not often that people are trying to learn
[19:59] <caB00T> Great attitude... I'm sure u'll be seeing more of me. )
[19:59] <caB00T> :)
[19:59] <almoxarife> JelloPop: what are you trying to do?
[20:00] <JelloPop> almoxarife: just watching and learning :)
[20:00] <almoxarife> JelloPop: cool
[20:00] <piritos> if i got 8.04 server edition, do i have updates for firefox?
[20:00] <sacarlson> piritos: 8.04 is at end of life not sure where to find updates
[20:01] <pangolin> !eol | piritos
[20:01] <piritos> its still supported
[20:01] <piritos> 2013-04
[20:01] <_Marcus> piritos: Look at the topic
[20:02] <auronandace> !info firefox hardy | piritos
[20:02] <JelloPop> almoxarife: I am using xmonad? Have u ever installed the xmonbar? I have dmenu installed and dont see a need for xmonbar?
[20:02] <cancelled06> hi
[20:02] <_Marcus> Hi cancelled06
[20:02] <piritos> is it the latest from the 3.x branch?
[20:03] <cancelled06> i want to ask
[20:03] <swick> hey, how to fix this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/949606) kind of bug? i just want a starting point... ;)
[20:03] <almoxarife> JelloPop: can't say I have heard of it, can't help you
[20:03] <JelloPop> almoxarife: ok
[20:03] <cancelled06> how to crack wpa with ubuntu?
[20:03] <cancelled06> ?
[20:04] <schnuffle> cancelled06: thats not a suport question
[20:04] <cancelled06> thanks
[20:04] <cancelled06> but i need thid
[20:04] <_Tristan> Is there a way I can install ubuntu to an external harddrive from ubuntu without using a flash drive or cd?
[20:04] <cancelled06> this
[20:04] <JelloPop> cancelled06: that is known as hacking not supporting u doing illegal actions ,but yes I know how and I dont preform it... its illegal
[20:04] <cancelled06> cd
[20:05] <_Marcus> JelloPop: Correction, it's known as cracking.
[20:05] <cancelled06> i know with backtrack but i dont know with ubuntu
[20:05] <cancelled06> it is so different?
[20:05] <_Marcus> cancelled06: I don't know if this can be used on Ubuntu, but try aircrack
[20:05] <almoxarife> cancelled06: there you go, use backtrack
[20:05] <cancelled06> i using spoonwpa
[20:06] <_Marcus> cancelled06: Aircrack-ng
[20:06] <timea817> HI i need help, im trying to install lubuntu mini, but during installation it asked me to choose an ubuntu mirror. I tried with a lot of country it offered in the list, but it keeps giving me error msg. What should i do?
[20:06] <JelloPop> _Marcus: yes, need rainbow tables aircrack us backtrack for that
[20:06] <_Marcus> tima817: Are you connected to the Internet on that machine?
[20:06] <timea817> Yes
[20:06] <cancelled06> where is
[20:06] <Hans_Henrik> timea817: and what happens when you: ping google.com
[20:06] <Hans_Henrik> ?
[20:07] <_Marcus> Hans_Henrik: He is in the installer, how is he supposed to do that?
[20:07] <timea817> I cant ping it im installing the os
[20:07] <escott> timea817, ctrl-alt-f1 over to a terminal
[20:07] <Hans_Henrik> _Marcus: good question.. i would guess theres a hotkey for opening a console (like in windows7/vista setup its f11 )
[20:08] <timea817> Im a noob, i have no idea about that
[20:08] <ThatGuy85> howdy all
[20:08] <kpow> any1 knows what kernel 12.04 is currently using?
[20:09] <escott> !precise | kpow
[20:09] <guntbert> kpow: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:09] <timea817> I just need a workin mirror
[20:09] <kpow> ok thanks
[20:09] <enchilado> Linux
[20:09] <almoxarife> timea817: try the option "US server"
[20:10] <Hans_Henrik> timea817: what happens when you press Ctrl + Alt + T
[20:10] <almoxarife> kpow: 3.2-20?
[20:10] <_Marcus> kpow: You should ask #ubuntu+1
[20:10] <enchilado> Let's all tell him.
[20:10] <enchilado> I don't think enough people have.
[20:10] <enchilado> kpow: try #ubuntu+1
[20:10] <_Marcus> enchilado: I was going to tell him that again >:(
[20:11] <pangolin> enchilado, _Marcus  adding noise to the channel is not helpful
[20:11] <almoxarife> kpow: linux-image-3.2.0-20-generic
[20:11] <timea817> Ctrl alt t takes me to main menu
[20:12] <Hans_Henrik> k, then i dont know
[20:12] <JelloPop> timea817: what system?
[20:12] <enchilado> pangolin: sorry
[20:12] <_Marcus> pangolin: Sorry
[20:12] <people> quit
[20:13] <JelloPop> timea817: I thought it was just one of function keys above
[20:13] <kpow> any1 has any experience on dell laptop with the beta? im using the currently preinstalled 11.04 and thinking to upgrade to the beta
[20:13] <timea817> Pentium 3 248mb ram, 700mhz
[20:13] <kpow> oops wrong channel
[20:13] <kpow> :-)
[20:13] <Hans_Henrik> timea817: cool specs!
[20:14] <helmcken> Hello! Am attempting to do dual install of Ubuntu version 10.04-desk-amd64-LTS and Win 7 to my new FragBox home computer. Unit already has Win 7-64bit installed and running smoothly. Have full back-up USB memory stick with all original software and configs. Have successfully downloaded Ubuntu .iso and burned to disc. Have checked download with md5 hash sums. Verified burn afterwards. Have used disc in machine and will read disc correct
[20:14] <helmcken> ly. Will reboot and have selected check/verify disc integrity from Ubuntu menu and reported disc is okay. However, whether I select "Try first with no changes" or go straight to full install, it always does the "Try first" anyways and builds the Ubuntu desktop. To be clear, I successfully arrive at a proper Ubuntu desktop, but only in the temporary, trial mode. When I select Install, Ubuntu goes sudo and asks for administrator password
[20:14] <helmcken> ! I've never set a password and do not know what to do! Sometimes, an error message from Ubuntu reads: Failed to run /usr/bin/ubiquity 'gtk_ul' as user root.(with more text ending in Contact the system administrator.) Well, that IS me! The only thing possible is to remove disk from machine and reboot. Machine rebuilds smoothly in Win 7 with no ill effects. What to do, please?
[20:14] <FloodBot1> helmcken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <jdmshiz> Hey currently am trying to install a theme, when i extract themes into my .themes folder it won't show up in my advance setting GTK+ appearence tab. Any help please
[20:15] <alazare619> hmm new to weechat anyone know how to switch between channels im on crunchbang and ubuntu how do i go back to crunchbang
[20:15] <jdmshiz> alazare619: /join #channel?
[20:16] <alazare619> i figured it out its alt plus arrow key left/right
[20:16] <alazare619> first time using a curses based client
[20:16] <jdmshiz> lol
[20:16] <JelloPop> timea817: did u figure it out?
[20:16] <timea817> No
[20:16] <jdmshiz> Hey currently am trying to install a theme, when i extract themes into my .themes folder it won't show up in my advance setting GTK+ appearence tab. Any help please
[20:16] <timea817> None of the aervers seem to work
[20:16] <Hans_Henrik> helmcken: probably no password (just press enter), and use sudo
[20:17] <scottj> how to set fonts and colors from gnome-appearance-properties w/o using gnome-settings-daemon? is there a file for these?
[20:17] <_Marcus> jdmshiz: You just said that about 1 minute ago. No need to say it again so quickly
[20:17] <almoxarife> timea817: its your network connection
[20:17] <JelloPop> timea817: there was ctrl + shift +f1 , crtl + shift + esc ... some will reboot system u may have to do trial and error
[20:17] <jdmshiz> _marcus: rgr that
[20:17] <_Marcus> rgr?
[20:17] <jdmshiz> roger haha
[20:18] <_Marcus> Oh
[20:18] <JelloPop> timea817: didn't give brand there are different combos for other systems...
[20:18] <timea817> Ok thanks for all your help i try that and if doesnt work just give up.
[20:19] <JelloPop> timea817: what??
[20:19] <JelloPop> timea817: what is model? I run this down
[20:19] <igor_> hello
[20:19] <almoxarife> timea817: what kind of network connection you using?
[20:19] <helmcken> to Has_Henrik: thanks! Have tried pressing enter while leaving blank. Doesn't work. Just generates error message I pasted.
[20:20] <timea817> Cable one
[20:20] <ThatGuy85> Hello, hello, hello
[20:20] <guntbert> JelloPop: I think you are talking to the wrong person - timea817 has a problem reaching an ubuntu mirror
[20:20] <ThatGuy85> igor hello
[20:20] <almoxarife> timea817: the same one you are using to chat?
[20:20] <JelloPop> timea817: never mind
[20:20] <ThatGuy85> smc hello
[20:20] <timea817> No, i use my phone to chat
[20:20] <almoxarife> phone?
[20:21] <timea817> Yes
[20:21] <ThatGuy85> Fringe howdy
[20:21] <guntbert> ThatGuy85:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:21] <JelloPop> timea817: who at&t, sprint who??
[20:21] <ThatGuy85> dkim welcome
[20:21] <timea817> Telenor
[20:21] <ThatGuy85> Yeah, Im a bit new to this
[20:21] <guntbert> !who | timea817
[20:22] <JelloPop> timea817: is the a baby bell company?
[20:22] <smw> Is there any way to use the gnome shell extension website in ubuntu?
[20:22] <ThatGuy85> Gunbert, particularly one issue.
[20:22] <fsdf> jmk
[20:22] <guntbert> ThatGuy85: please don't greet *everyone* - there are 1600+ people here :)
[20:22] <timea817> !tab ubottu thx for the info
[20:22] <fsdf> ohrly
[20:22] <JelloPop> timea817: never mind that is Norway!
[20:22] <fsdf> ur just
[20:23] <fsdf> a botto
[20:23] <guntbert> !tab | ThatGuy85
[20:23] <ThatGuy85> I think every one should get a welcome once and a while :)
[20:23] <helmcken> To Has_Henrik: Thanks! Have already tried leaving blank but machine generates error message I mentioned. Also will NOT allow me to bring up terminal. What to do?
[20:23] <JelloPop> timea817: Different Telecommunications from usa
[20:23] <guntbert> ThatGuy85: too many people here for socialities - keep to support please
[20:23] <jdmshiz> Hey currently am trying to install a theme, when i extract themes into my .themes folder it won't show up in my advance setting GTK+ appearence tab. Any help please
[20:23] <timea817> !tab JelloPop its a hungarian mobile service
[20:23] <ThatGuy85> Awesome, good to know ubottu
[20:24] <ThatGuy85> Will do, thank you
[20:24] <_Marcus> In case people don't understand: Ubottu != human. Ubottu isn't a human.
[20:24] <ThatGuy85> hahahaha
[20:24] <almoxarife> timea817: I don't believe your network connection is working properly, choosing 'US server' should work, 'main server' also, neither working tells me the issue is with your network connection
[20:25] <guntbert> timea817: you got that wrong, you can use the <tab> key to autocomplete nicknames
[20:25] <Benxyzzy> du -h --max-depth=1 only lists the size of directories in the current working directory, not files. How do I list both with du ?
[20:26] <ThatGuy85> All of the files on my system, when looking at the File properties show the "Size on Disk" to be roughly 8X larger than the "Total Size of Files"
[20:26] <taglass> Benxyzzy,  -a, --all
[20:26] <taglass>               write counts for all files, not just directories
[20:26] <timea817> My network connection worked properly on my sisters pc, the us server isnt working either
[20:26] <almoxarife> Benxyzzy: nautilus is broke?
[20:26] <Benxyzzy> taglass: Thanks, pefect
[20:26] <escott> ThatGuy85, lots of things can throw file size computations off. what filesystem is it on?
[20:26] <almoxarife> timea817: I don't believe your network connection is working properly, choosing 'US server' should work, 'main server' also, neither working tells me the issue is with your network connection
[20:27] <timea817> Btw im on phone i dont have tab key sorry
[20:27] <ThatGuy85> Ubuntu 11.11, what ever the latest major release
[20:27] <ThatGuy85> I am running a Lubuntu enviroment though
[20:28] <almoxarife> ThatGuy85: who you talking to?
[20:28] <ThatGuy85> Escott: The newest as of last week
[20:29] <ThatGuy85> almoxarife: sorry about the prefacing
[20:29] <alexim> in /etc/ssh, is there a relationship between ssh_host_dsa_key, ssh_host_rsa_key, and ssh_host_ecdsa_key files? in other words, can i replace one of them and leave the other two alone?
[20:29] <alazare619> exit
[20:30] <guntbert> alexim: they are independend
[20:30] <alexim> guntbert: great, thanks
[20:30] <john_doe_jr> Crossover software installs windows software on a Mac but I'd like to know how
[20:31] <john_doe_jr> any ideas?
[20:31] <ThatGuy85> escott: Is this a known issue? and how can I tell whether its the fault of the program reading the disk, the file system or the files themselves
[20:31] <_Marcus> john_doe_jr: What does this have to do with UBuntu?
[20:31] <_Marcus> Ubuntu*
[20:31] <escott> ThatGuy85, if you would answer my question i might be able to answer yours
[20:31] <dsfe345> What is the recommended way to get Flash on Ubuntu 11.10 64bit?
[20:31] <dsfe345> I found http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/flash-ubuntu-64-install-easily-1110/ but I'm not seeing the 64bit version in USC
[20:31] <shockingbehavur> i have a problem with the dm1105n dvb-s card loading it into memory and setting it up. I am running ubuntu lucid lynx. I have tried building v4l-dvb drivers and others through the use of the linuxtv.org website. What i'm asking is: is there an easy approach to get the card recognized not as a ethernet controller but a multimedia controller.
[20:32] <pangolin> john_doe_jr, try #crossover
[20:32] <meerkats> To any spotify users: is there any way to get rid of the ads?
[20:32] <pangolin> meerkats, try asking spotify
[20:32] <meerkats> or, any linux frontend that does that?
[20:32] <pangolin> meerkats, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[20:32] <svensk_a1> meerkats: pay for a premium account
[20:32] <meerkats> pangolin, in freenode?
[20:33] <pangolin> meerkats, check the website and see what support options they offer
[20:33] <ThatGuy85> escott: I am running Ubuntu 11.10
[20:33] <Strav> Hi. From a discussion I had here, I'm pondering the options I have to setup a secure basis on a server that would require near constant uptime. My initial plan, was to use a custom static kernel patched with grsecurity, pax and v-servers (for running each service in it's own virtual env). So far so good, but when it comes to 0-day exploits, this means each time I'll have to get the patch, struggle to apply it on my not very up-to-date
[20:33] <Strav> kernel (since the v-server + grsec do not apply to every kernel version), compile and install the image on the server. So it makes me wonder: 1. is there a ppa that's concerned with keeping kernel images patched for the latest vulnerabilities and that includes: a minimal set of modules and of course, grsec + pax + v-servers enabled? 2. if not, what you guys think is the most secure option?
[20:33] <escott> ThatGuy85, I never asked you that? Why do you keep telling me that? What kind of filesystem is this?
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> Hey, anyone know of a way to get xrandr to use dual monitors with different resolutions? I can only do a mirrored setup currently.
[20:34] <caB00T> I know what it does, but can anyone tell me what GKSU stands for?
[20:34] <ThatGuy85> escott: Sorry, heheheh. ext4
[20:35] <hcuongvn> quit
[20:35] <escott> Strav, if you want security you disable modules. talking about a "minimal set of modules" is rather stupid
[20:35] <escott> ThatGuy85, ok are the files sparse? (having gaps in the middle which are all zeros) are you using some kind of overlay filesystem -- such as encrypted $HOME?
[20:36] <ThatGuy85> escott: +
[20:36] <Strav> escott: you are right, this is why I spoke about a static kernel (modules disabled) as my initial plan. When I said minimal set of modules, what I really meant is a minimal set of features (compiled in the kernel, not as modules).
[20:36] <ThatGuy85> escott: How would I tell? I am a still a bit new to this
[20:36] <Gaflana16> Hi all!
[20:37] <escott> ThatGuy85, well for one did you click on the "encrypt the home directory option during the install?"
[20:37] <Gaflana16> Who here?
[20:38] <guntbert> Gaflana16: 1600+ people :-))  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:38] <escott> Strav, there won't be a ppa of static kernels specific to your hardware, but you could start with vanilla and just keep your .config around
[20:38] <Gaflana16> guntbert, lol sure hi
[20:38] <ThatGuy85> escott: .... to be honest, I don't remember. It is possible
[20:38] <weox> hello , guy's  , i install ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3 (no unity -2d ) and it is awesome , but i have 1 small problem , i want disable top left edge-area ?? how i can do that ?
[20:38] <Gaflana16> Can i install Ubuntu on devices?
[20:39] <ThatGuy85>  escott: How would I verify?
[20:39] <Gaflana16> Can i install Ubuntu on my vibrator?
[20:39] <Strav> escott: this is what I'm actually doing. But my concern is: if I am I better to stick with a grsec enabled static kernel or to simply use the stock ones from ubuntu
[20:39] <guntbert> Gaflana16: stop that
[20:39] <Strav> arhg
[20:39] <__Alex_> Gaflana16: You can install it on Tablets, with hacked firmware to be able to boot anything other than android
[20:40] <guntbert> __Alex_: he is gone
[20:40] <tom3p> how do i save session in Ubuntu 10.04? the cmd 'gnome-session-save' does not work( open apps not reopened on reboot )
[20:40] <Strav> escott: this is what I'm actually doing. But my concern is: if I'm not to immediately apply the latest security patches on the kernel, I am I better to stick with a grsec enabled static kernel or to simply use the stock ones from ubuntu?
[20:41] <__Alex_> I hate when people ask a question and flee. :annoyedFace:
[20:41] <MrPopinjay> Is there a way to search for a package in the terminal with apt get?
[20:41] <escott> !paste | ThatGuy85 send the output of mount
[20:41] <pangolin> MrPopinjay, apt-cache search
[20:41] <MrPopinjay> Thank you
[20:43] <caliboy> hello
[20:43] <escott> Strav, i would think you should just use the stock modular kernel and then disable features so that you only have the modules you want. module loading should really only be triggered by local actions anyways
[20:43] <caliboy> hello
[20:43] <hexacode> hey you guys. my new laptop doesnt have the option to add restricted driver for my video card....every time i used ubuntu in the past it asked me so that i can turn my graphics card on but now it wont show. so how do i get my nvidia driver working on ubuntu
[20:43] <ThatGuy85> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/896950/
[20:43] <caliboy> i had a question on my wireless network
[20:44] <guntbert> !ask | caliboy
[20:44] <ThatGuy85> escott: I hope that helps
[20:44] <zykotic10> hexacode: is this a intel/nvidia hybrid?
[20:45] <hexacode> nvidia with cuda nvidia geforce 520 m
[20:45] <escott> ThatGuy85, that would seem to eliminate the possibility of an encrypted overlay which leaves hard links or sparse files as an explanation
[20:46] <Strav> escott: this is an option, but I wondering if it's worth not having grsec (especially in the case where grsec would protect you against a whole class of attacks that the security patches only later address).
[20:46] <zykotic10> hexacode: perhaps this will help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1934964
[20:46] <caliboy> I installed my broadcom STA wireless driver and when i click the network thing at the top bar it doesnt even show wireless network.
[20:46] <escott> Strav, I'm not familiar enough with grsec to be able to advise
[20:46] <hexacode> thanks . takin a look now
[20:47] <caliboy> so i tried manually typing the wireless network in and it doesnt connect
[20:47] <raynerd> guys, I`ve been told to make a copy of the grub setup list by typing this in terminal (I`m a linux noob)   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst.   but the file that opens is empty and doesn`t contain what it says it should.. any thoughts.
[20:47] <ThatGuy85> escott: Using "Disk Usage Analyzer" only two directories showed to have hard links
[20:47] <guntbert> !enter > caliboy
[20:48] <ThatGuy85> escott: Furthermore, both of the hardlinked directories seem to be empty
[20:48] <caliboy> asd
[20:48] <ThatGuy85> escott:  "appear" to be empty
[20:48] <caliboy> what do you mean enter
[20:49] <caliboy> Can you guys please help me? Nobody here is responding to me
[20:49] <mitraa> what up
[20:49] <escott> raynerd, thats an old set of instructions
[20:49] <mirko1> raynerd:  it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg on recent Ubuntu which uses Grub2
[20:49] <raynerd> ohhh :(
[20:50] <caliboy> hello
[20:50] <caliboy> ?
[20:50] <caliboy> ?
[20:50] <caliboy> ?
[20:50] <FloodBot1> caliboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <raynerd> damn, I wonder then if this entire instruction set will be wrong
[20:50] <Strav> escott: np. :)
[20:50] <taglass>  !patience | caliboy
[20:50] <raynerd> thanks for the info mirko... now do I go ahead or not is the question! thanks again
[20:50] <escott> ThatGuy85, you would have to be more specific about what folders. what are their names and paths?
[20:51] <ThatGuy85> escott: Oddly enough, Disk Usage Analyzer shows my available drive space at (909.1GB). While the System tab under System Monitor shows the available disk space at (800.9GB)
[20:51] <caliboy> what do you people mean by dont press the enter button as puncuation
[20:51] <mirko1> raynerd:  probably not. a lot has changed regarding the grub config from v1 to v2. what are you trying to do? link to the instructions?
[20:51] <ThatGuy85> escott: bin and sbin
[20:51] <__Alex_> caliboy: It means, if you want to say something, say it on a single line.
[20:51] <raynerd> mirko1: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=2
[20:52] <ThatGuy85> escott:  are the two that are marked to contain harlinks
[20:52] <escott> ThatGuy85, you have close to a TB of free space, why do you care how big /bin and /sbin are?
[20:52] <caliboy> __Alex_: So only ask a question once?
[20:52] <raynerd> mirko1: for one reason or another, I must have windows Xp as an option on this PC. But I have linux all setup for linuxcnc/emc2 and so although the easiest way would be to put on xp and then reinstal linux, i don`t want to lose my current linux setup.
[20:53] <ThatGuy85> escott: I don't
[20:53] <ThatGuy85> escott: Those are not the issue
[20:53] <__Alex_> caliboy: No, it means ask your question(s) at one line, instead of 5-10 lines
[20:53] <BetaTester> Hi guys
[20:53] <BetaTester> what's up with ubuntu lately
[20:54] <ThatGuy85> escott: ALL of the files on my file system appear on the disk 8x larger than they actually are
[20:54] <mitraa> linux sucks
[20:54] <BetaTester> oh hey mitra
[20:54] <BetaTester> i just posted on the group
[20:54] <BetaTester> i think you can guess who i am
[20:54] <__Alex_> mitraa: Then try FreeBSD, or Solaris
[20:54] <mirko1> raynerd:  nope, that's obsolte info. actually you shouldn't need anything like this anymore. after reinstalling windows you an easily reinsall the bootmanager. however, i use a somewhat advanced method (dd and stuff), so better somebdy else answers how to simply reinstall grub
[20:54] <taglass> ThatGuy85, I suspect you will find your answer here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte
[20:54] <mitraa> i have no idea
[20:54] <caliboy> __Alex_: Ok so can you help me with connecting to wireless?
[20:54] <BetaTester> it's the creator of the platform :D
[20:55] <mitraa> im just gonna create my own os
[20:55] <BetaTester> He will
[20:55] <__Alex_> caliboy: Me? nope. I don't know anything about wireless
[20:55] <BetaTester> he has to if he wants to pass
[20:55] <ThatGuy85> taglass: Thats not it. I know my units, thank you though
[20:55] <caliboy> __Alex_: Ok i guess ill find someone else
[20:55] <taglass> ThatGuy85, Are you sure one program isn't showing base 2 and one isn't showing base `10?
[20:56] <caliboy> How do you connect to wireless on ubuntu 11.10
[20:56] <raynerd> mikro1: would you advise me then to just put the windows CD in and install then worry about recovering linux? Also, do I need to make space for the windows install or will it automatically keep linux there providing I don`t choose to format the drive?
[20:56] <macisawesome> damn macs are awesome
[20:56] <macisawesome> linux sucks soo much
[20:56] <savant> Hi all. I'm having a weird issue on some of my systems where typing a | (pipe) character results in ø. The character seems to work fine, except it's obviously not a pipe character as expected.
[20:57] <oCean> macisawesome: please stop that nonsense
[20:57] <__Alex_> mitraa: Not to underestimate you, comrade, but do you have the sufficient Computer knoladge to put togeather a full OS? Or will it end up as a terrible buggy attempt like the Hurd?
[20:57] <DJones> !paint | ziyadb /whois macisawesome
[20:57] <oCean> BetaTester: do you have a support question? Chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:57] <savant> Running "env|grep LANG" results in "LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
[20:57] <zykotic10> macisawesome: troll elsewhere
[20:57] <macisawesome> lol I was kidding
[20:57] <escott> ThatGuy85, can you run the following "head -c 10K /dev/urandom > test.random; ls -l test.random; du -b test.random"
[20:57] <macisawesome> Im running on ubuntu now
[20:57] <macisawesome> xubuntu to be exact
[20:57] <caliboy> Can someone help me with wireless network?
[20:58] <ljt> caliboy: yes, if you stop asking
[20:58] <__Alex_> I'm running MacOS 10.4 on my G5
[20:58] <mirko1> raynerd:  yes, if you can live with a moment without linux? ;-) regarding the space. you DO need  to make space, windows does not shrink the partition for you. be careful at that step not to overwrite your ubuntu partition. regarding grub, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[20:58] <savant> Has anyone ever experienced this issue, where certain keys seem to be remapped? I'm running 10.10 on these instances.
[20:58] <caliboy> ljt: So you can help me!!!
[20:58] <raynerd> mirko1: you have helped a lot...can you please just tell me, how do I "make space" for windows so it won`t kill my linux partition?
[20:59] <__Alex_> !tell caliboy about patience
[20:59] <savant> hmmm seems as though it was something in my ssh terminal. Nevermind all, carry on. macsrule!
[20:59] <ljt> caliboy: noone here is obliged to help you, we do so in our spare time
[21:00] <_RED_> well can I get some help I tried using Wubi didn't work but now Im stuck with and Ubuntu entry on windows boot loader (there was 2 but uninstalling wubi removed it) and I want to know how to remove it
[21:00] <mirko1> raynerd: do you already have a partition which you could delete?
[21:00] <ljt> caliboy: but i'll give it a go please do the following
[21:00] <ThatGuy85> escott:  http://imagebin.org/204888 This shows my concerns.
[21:00] <raynerd> no, I just have a very big partician that linux is sat on.
[21:00] <caliboy> ljt: Ok
[21:00] <raynerd> partition**
[21:01] <__Alex_> _RED_: If i remember correctly, on XP, you need to edit your /boot.ini file. But they removed that in Vista
[21:01] <__Alex_> iirc
[21:01] <_RED_> Im in 7 _Alex_
[21:01] <Aserercoff> Hi! Apparently I have a big problem, but I don't know how to solve it. There is not enough information on Internet. I have a 2 teras hard disk. I want to install W7 and Ubuntu 11.10 on it. The problem is that it is GPT.
[21:01] <Aserercoff> I have just installed W7, but Ubuntu does not recognize it.
[21:02] <_RED_> and raynerd don't touch the ubuntu parition since its 5 paritions made into one via use of logical partition
[21:02] <ljt> caliboy: pastebin the outputs of lspci, lsusb, lsmod, sudo lshw, dmesg | tail -300
[21:02] <Aserercoff> I open Gparted and it says that the disk is clean.
[21:02] <escott> Aserercoff, W7 will not boot bios+gpt only efi+gpt
[21:02] <caliboy> ljt: Im sorry i dont know what you mean by that
[21:02] <Aserercoff> escott, so... what must I do?
[21:02] <rogst> _RED_: There is a special windows tool to modify the boot loader
[21:02] <_RED_> and _alex_ I tried instlaling ubuntu once wubi crashed half way rebooted installed again worked rebooted had 2 entried and neither worked, uninstalled but still got one entry
[21:03] <raynerd> _RED: what do you mean, I can`t split the ext4 linux partician to make way for windows?
[21:03] <ThatGuy85> escott: http://imagebin.org/204889 here is a highlighted version
[21:03] <escott> Aserercoff, well is this a bios system?
[21:03] <_RED_> and what is it rogst?
[21:03] <rogst> _RED_: BCDEDIT
[21:03] <escott> ThatGuy85, you are not being helpful. please run the commands I sent you
[21:03] <Aserercoff> escott, mmm, yes, I have a bios if it is what do you mean.
[21:03] <mirko1> raynerd: is what _RED_ said true? if yes, I cannot help, otherwise  you have to use gparted to split the partition. *carefully* note that, while gparted is pretty save today, there is still a risk, better make backups
[21:03] <__Alex_> Aserercoff: Go to fdisk in terminal, and make a classic MBR disk label. I can't believe linux folks haven't implimented GPT support.
[21:03] <ljt> caliboy: ok one step at a time, you can upload text to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:03] <_RED_> raynerd Ubuntu has 2-3 ext4 paritions for stuff 1 swap and 1 other i think and there all mad into one logical one
[21:03] <_RED_> made*
[21:03] <ljt> caliboy: i need you to run some commands and pastebin them
[21:04] <caliboy> ljt: ok
[21:04] <ljt> the output will help me see whats going on
[21:04] <escott> Aserercoff, if you have a bios system and managed to boot windows then you must be using mbr not gpt partitions. its possible you have an out of sync hybrid and you should use gdisk to fix it up
[21:04] <caliboy> where do i run them? At the website
[21:04] <zykotic10> __Alex_: gnu/linux via parted does support non-MBR, fdisk = only MBR
[21:04] <Aserercoff> __Alex_, can you tell me how to make a «classic MBR disk label», please? I mean, what must I write on the console?
[21:04] <ljt> caliboy: press ctrl-alt-t
[21:04] <_RED_> and thanks rogst
[21:05] <__Alex_> Aserercoff: sudo fdisk /dev/sdX; in there, press the o key
[21:05] <escott> __Alex_, saying linux hasn't implemented GPT is absolutely and totally false. linux was one of the first systems to support gpt
[21:05] <caliboy> ok im in the terminal
[21:05] <caliboy> ljt: Ok im in the terminal
[21:05] <cpinheiro> There's a way to use 2 monitors on ubuntu 11.10 with some kind of fast switch between them? I have to go to nvidia settings everytime i want to change
[21:05] <mirko1> _RED_: your terms are a little confusing. they aren't made into logical partitions, they are just "combined" into one directory tree (so to say).
[21:05] <Aserercoff> escott, when I try to install W7, and I have previously make some partitions on live cd with gparted, it tell me that it can't be intalled in a GPT drive, so I must erase all to install it.
[21:05] <raynerd> _Red_  & Mikro1:  I`m not really into this so please take it easy on me. I`m looking at gparted now and I see 4 partitions: unallocated-1MiB, ext4 on dev/sda1   - 183GB, extended dev/sda1  2.2Gig and linux swap dev/sda5.
[21:05] <gandhijee_> kk
[21:05] <raynerd> So I can`t split the big ext4?
[21:06] <ljt> caliboy: i'll type out a command then you just paste it in to that terminal ok - just a sec
[21:06] <caliboy> ljt: ok
[21:06] <_RED_> mirko1 they're 5 5 logical paritions
[21:06] <_RED_> so you cant really edit them
[21:07] <Aserercoff> __Alex_, I have tried « sudo fdisk /dev/sdX» from sd0 to sd5. Allways it tell me that that partition does not exist.
[21:07] <escott> Aserercoff, right. if you must have gpt then you have to go to a hybrid layout, but 2TiB should fit withing bios so that might be easier
[21:07] <Aserercoff> escott, I am all ears.
[21:07] <zykotic10> Aserercoff: there are no such drive sd0 -> sd5, the first drive would be sda, with partition numbers following
[21:07] <raynerd> _Red_: so am I screwed then?
[21:07] <mirko1> _RED_: he could shrink the 183GB partition with gparted.
[21:07] <ThatGuy85> escott:  I ras the bash script
[21:07] <cpinheiro> There's a way to use 2 monitors on ubuntu 11.10 with some kind of fast switch between them? I have to go to nvidia settings everytime i want to change
[21:08] <ThatGuy85> escott: *ran
[21:08] <escott> ThatGuy85, and what did it say?
[21:08] <escott> Aserercoff, hybrids are fragile annoying things to work with. its much easier to just use mbr
[21:08] <ThatGuy85> escott: -rw-rw-r-- 1 "username" "username" 10240 2012-03-23 16:07 test.random
[21:08] <ThatGuy85> 10240	test.random
 <mirko1>  I have tried before and it fucked up badly so I recomend he backs up all his data and what not installs windows and formate every thing then IN WINDOWS shrink the windows parition
[21:09] <escott> ThatGuy85, ok so those files are exactly the size that would be expected
[21:09] <Aserercoff> zykotic10, ups, sorry, it is true. sda1 exist. I have pressed o. Ok, what do you want to know from this information?
[21:09] <Aserercoff> escott, mbr? Ok. How?
[21:09] <caliboy> ljt: you almost ready?
[21:09] <raynerd> humm, OK
[21:09] <raynerd> fair enough, so the advice is basically to install windows with a fresh format and then put linux back on?
[21:10] <zykotic10> Aserercoff: that you have 1 drive with 1 partition...
[21:10] <_RED_> raynerd yes because of how Ubuntu does its paritions Mint its a bit easier
[21:10] <escott> ThatGuy85, it might just be a permissions issue if you have lots of large files that you cannot access. the filesystem should notice that the space is not available, but it might not appear to the disk utility. you could try running the disk utility as root
[21:10] <escott> Aserercoff, at this point what do you have installed/what do you need to preserve?
[21:11] <Aserercoff> zykotic10, yes, that is correct.
[21:11] <Aserercoff> escott, I don't need to preserver anything. I have W7 and Ubuntu 11.10 on DVDs. This is a new HD.
[21:12] <Aserercoff> I don't know if this will help, but the hard disk is: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA3 64MB
[21:12] <escott> Aserercoff, in that case boot the livecd and "sudo apt-get install gdisk" run gdisk and delete the gpt partiton just to be sure its gone, install windows and let it create an mbr partition then install ubuntu
[21:12] <ratcheer> Aserercoff: Nice drive!
[21:12] <escott> Aserercoff, also thats a 4k drive so make sure your partitions are 4k aligned
[21:13] <caliboy> ljt: you still there???
[21:13] <Aserercoff> ratcheer, thanks, €115.
[21:13] <remoteCTRL> hi guys!
[21:14] <Aserercoff> escott, I am on live cd now, because W7 does not conect to internet (not a big problem, I only want to use it for games)
[21:14] <ThatGuy85> escott: running sudo baobab atm
[21:14] <Aserercoff> escott, I'll do what you said.
[21:14] <venik212> my wireless (ipw2200) quits frequently.  How do I restart it?  Thinkad t43p, lubuntu 11.10
[21:15] <ljt> caliboy: yeah sorry almost done
[21:15] <remoteCTRL> i am currently on a clean and fresh install of kubuntu and when trying to connect a bluetoothmouse and a keyboard i keep getting these rather pesky errors stating "input service connection timeout". can you please tell me what to do with that?
[21:15] <caliboy> ljt: Its cool just tell me when your ready
[21:15] <escott> !gksudo | ThatGuy85
[21:16] <Aserercoff> escott, just a questions, when I erase GPT, will I be able to talk here? Or the PC will reboot automaticly?
[21:16] <ThatGuy85> escott: Disk Usage Analyzer shows the exact same values as before
[21:16] <escott> Aserercoff, it should not affect the livecd at all
[21:16] <ThatGuy85> escott: Duely noted, I will be more cautious in the future
[21:17] <escott> ThatGuy85, so where is baobob saying all this space is being used
[21:17] <Aserercoff> escott, ok, I am on «sudo gdisk». It ask me for «device filename». How I know the name of my hard disk?
[21:17] <escott> Aserercoff, probably sda but you can use the disk utilty to identify the device file /dev/sdX
[21:18] <ThatGuy85> escott:  baobob is, as far as I can tell, showing numbers that are close to what they should be.
[21:19] <ThatGuy85> escott: 88% of the files are in Home
[21:20] <Aserercoff> escott, I typed «/dev/sda». It tell: MBR: MBR only
[21:20] <Aserercoff>   BSD: not present
[21:20] <Aserercoff>   APM: not present
[21:20] <Aserercoff>   GPT: present
[21:20] <Jon--> I have a command like this: cat file | grep -f stringhere. each string is of the form: xxx14 or xxx214 (for example). I don't want grep to match xxx141 when it sees xxx14 in the list. What is the easiest way to do this?
[21:20] <escott> ThatGuy85, its probably just some special files like /proc/kcore confusing nautilus
[21:20] <Aserercoff> escott, you were right, It is a hybrid!
[21:21] <Aserercoff> escott, ok, I must choose. Should I use option 1?: Found valid MBR and GPT. Which do you want to use?
[21:21] <Aserercoff>  1 - MBR
[21:21] <Aserercoff>  2 - GPT
[21:21] <Aserercoff>  3 - Create blank GPT
[21:21] <FloodBot1> Aserercoff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:21] <ratcheer> Aserercoff: Hybrid BIOS?
[21:21] <escott> Aserercoff, cause they shipped it as a hybrid but windows installed mbr and was too stupid to clear out the gpt. why do things correctly when you can just puke over everyones disks and leave them to a screwed up system in the future
[21:22] <escott> Aserercoff, rather they shipped as a gpt and then windows added the mbr
[21:22] <escott> Aserercoff, in any case your best option is probably MBR
[21:23] <Aserercoff> escott, that is why I don't like to use W7, but you know, videogames... Ok, I will chose 1
[21:23] <ThatGuy85> escott: for example DUA and the Folder properties, of the same folder: DUA shows the folder to be the exact same size as Folder Properties "Total Size of Files"
[21:23] <ljt> caliboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897002/
[21:23] <caliboy> ljt: go to that website and then what?
[21:23] <ljt> caliboy: copy that text and paste it into the console
[21:24] <ThatGuy85> escott: Folder properties also shows the "Size on disk" to be 8x larger
[21:24] <caliboy> even the numbers?
[21:24] <caliboy> ljt: even the numbers?
[21:24] <ljt> caliboy: no - you should be able to just select the commands
[21:24] <ljt> from output to sudo lshw
[21:25] <caliboy> ljt: Wait tell me what to do on this code thing one step at a time please
[21:25] <escott> ThatGuy85, it sounds like nautilus is just wrong
[21:25] <ThatGuy85> escott: If this is a nautilus issue, who/where should I go to figure this out?
[21:25] <Aserercoff> escott, I typed 1, but it don't seems to do anything. It only show: «Command (? for help):» Should I use «X 1»?
[21:26] <escott> Aserercoff, there are some advanced options which should allow you to delete the gpt information
[21:26] <escott> Aserercoff, its been a while since i've used it either "h" or "?" should list the command options
[21:26] <ljt> caliboy: so just copy the code on the page I sent you - not including the numbers
[21:26] <ThatGuy85> escott: In your opinion, is this an issue that will cause problems in the future
[21:26] <ljt> highlight it, right click and copy
[21:26] <caliboy> ljt: all of them at once?
[21:26] <Aserercoff> escott, yeah, ? told me that D is for delete. But, how to write MBR?
[21:27] <ljt> caliboy: yes, all of them, frop "output=" all the way down to "sudo lshw"
[21:27] <ljt> *from
[21:27] <ThatGuy85> escott: for instance, when the files combined size on disk passes the total file capacity of the file system
[21:27] <ljt> caliboy: then right click on the background of the terminal, and click paste
[21:28] <caliboy> ljt: k one sec
[21:28] <Myrtti> Aserercoff: it's a bot.
[21:29] <caliboy> ljt: it says a bunch of stuff
[21:29] <Aserercoff> Myrtti, thanks :D
[21:29] <ljt> caliboy: don't worry about what it says - we'll get to that in a minute
[21:29] <trishxo> any familar with vmware or virtualbox??
[21:30] <ljt> caliboy: it will ask you to enter your password so you can run a command as admin
[21:30] <caliboy> ljt: so now what\
[21:30] <caliboy> ljt: ya the sudo password
[21:30] <ljt> yup, cool
[21:30] <ljt> OK
[21:31] <ljt> check your desktop - there should be a file called hardware_info.txt
[21:31] <caliboy> ya i see it
[21:31] <caliboy> ljt: ya i see it
[21:31] <Loshki> Can someone point me to an easy-to-use DLNA server? I want to to be able to watch video files stored on my 10.04 LTS server on my TV?
[21:31] <ljt> caliboy: open it, paste the contents into paste.ubuntu.com
[21:32] <trishxo> anyone familiar with vmware or virualbox?
[21:32] <mirko1>  Jon--: too few information, what should happen with xxx142, should only two digits match, should matches depend on previous lines (awk job) etc.;   -f stringhere makes no sense, -f is used to specify a pattern containing file; also read about UUOC .
[21:32] <ljt> trishxo: me
[21:32] <ljt> trishxo: vbox
[21:32] <caliboy> ljt: k one sec
[21:32] <trishxo> ljt: do u know how to run android os?
[21:32] <primeras> hi all. Good evening. Where is the Ubuntu Server bug list
[21:33] <_RED_> try the FTP server primeras
[21:33] <_RED_> or the dev irc
[21:33] <Loshki> primeras: does this have what you want? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[21:33] <trishxo> ljt: like a android vdi?
[21:34] <auronandace> !launchpad | primeras
[21:34] <Aserercoff> I want to save a backup of GPT before delete it. I insert the pen but it does not open, also it does not show on the unity sidebar. There is any command on console to open a pen?
[21:34] <primeras> sorry my english isn't very well. I know Launchpad. But I look "just" Ubuntu-Server bug list
[21:34] <Aserercoff> *pendrive
[21:34] <ljt> caliboy: once you've done that put the link on here
[21:34] <caliboy> ljt: ok the website is http://paste.ubuntu.com/897017/
[21:35] <primeras> I think..
[21:35] <primeras> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server
[21:35] <macer1> Hi
[21:35] <macer1> I have a small problem, after installing openjdk-7-jdk there isn't option to open jar file with java in GNOME.
[21:35] <macer1> but java/javac on console works
[21:35] <caliboy> ljt: did you get it?
[21:36] <ljt> trishxo: never done it - check this though androidspin.com/2011/01/24/howto-install-android-x86-2-2-in-virtualbox/
[21:36] <ljt> caliboy: yeah thanks
[21:36] <caliboy> ljt: did you get it?
[21:36] <caliboy> ljt: ok
[21:37] <caliboy> ljt: so now what
[21:37] <Aserercoff> escott, should I «write table to disk and exit» or «delete a partition» or «create a new empty GUID partition table (GPT)» to delete GPT?
[21:37] <macer1> hmm
[21:37] <macer1> looks like #943172
[21:37] <Sanal-PC> hi
[21:37] <macer1> bug #943172
[21:38] <trishxo> ljt: sweet thx
[21:38] <escott> Aserercoff, you don't want to create a new GPT you want to delete the one that is already there. i think you can find that option in the advanced menu
[21:38] <caliboy> ljt: so now what?
[21:39] <escott> Aserercoff, if you want to !paste the menu options then i can tell you what you want, but i dont remember what they are off hand
[21:39] <ljt> caliboy: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:39] <caliboy> ljt: 11.10
[21:40] <highflyer> Guys, need a help. I want to reinstall kubuntu. How to do that? Thanks!
[21:40] <Aserercoff> escott, here is the help: http://pastebin.com/jZSLUfDf
[21:40] <highflyer> oneiric 11.10
[21:40] <highflyer> thanks!
[21:41] <escott> Aserercoff, try x then h again to see the extra help options
[21:41] <caliboy> ljt: why?
[21:42] <ljt> caliboy: because the course of action may differ depending on the version you're running
[21:42] <mirko1> anybody knows about the Asus USB-N10  WLAN dongle on 10.04 64bit? It's a  Realtek 8192SU chip. i've found hints that say neither the realtek nor the dkms driver work on 64bit.
[21:42] <Aserercoff> escott, Yeah! I think that we want this «zap (destroy) GPT data structures and exit», aren't we?
[21:42] <escott> Aserercoff, yes
[21:42] <caliboy> ljt: Ok so do you know how to fix it?
[21:43] <Aserercoff> escott, ok, it says «GPT data structures destroyed! You may now partition the disk using fdisk or other utilities.»
[21:43] <escott> Aserercoff, you might be unable to access a small amount of disk space at the end of the disk because of using mbr, but its much better than having a screwed up hybrid (which can totally hose your system)
[21:44] <Aserercoff> escott, It is 2 teras, I can stand up to 100 megas of disk space.
[21:44] <Aserercoff> escott, under that it says: «Blank out MBR? (Y/N):». I'll chose N. Am I correct?
[21:45] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Is anyone here involved with the OMGUbuntu site?
[21:46] <escott> Aserercoff, doesn't really matter, just install windows as usual telling it to use the entire disk, and it will create a new mbr table, and then you can use the livecd to resize the ntfs down and install ubuntu
[21:47] <Aserercoff> escott, ok. So this conversation should end because I need to reboot and use W7's DVD. Thanks for your time and help.
[21:47] <ThatGuy85> escott: Thank you. With your help I figured out my issue. Thank you very very much. Lubuntu uses PCManFM 0.9.9 by default (which is where the confusion stems). Checking the files again in Nautilus, everything is as it should be. Thanks again for your time, patience and wisdom.
[21:47] <GhostConn> for some reason I started my computer today after updates lastnght and in my grub boot loader I now have a option called   " previous versions"  I only have ubuntu,mint 12 & win7 on tripple boot
[21:48] <GhostConn> how could another version just appear ???
[21:48] <ThatGuy85> escott: FWIW: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1008193#p1008193 details an exact copy of my issue
[21:48] <ThatGuy85> escott: Thanks again for everything
[21:48] <mirko1> GhostConn:  updated kernel?
[21:48] <Aserercoff> escott, hey, wait! I chose N and it says «MBR is unchanged. You may need to delete an EFI GPT (0xEE) partition with fdisk or another tool.» Does that mean that GPT still there?
[21:49] <GhostConn> so you mean because i updated it updated the kernel so i now have two versions of ubuntu lol?
[21:50] <escott> Aserercoff, no. this is some complicated technical stuff that doesn't really matter because your intention is to blow away all the partitions anyways. there is a special parititon type to be used only in hybrids and that is still listed in your mbr, but there are no gpt structures anymore they have been zeroed out
[21:50] <sambagirl> evening. i just installed 11.04 i believe and i can't seem to locate anything. i just installed chrome and downloaded something and i have no idea where chrome is or where i downloaded the app. is there an option to change the view to one more familiar for me?
[21:50] <GhostConn> why would it make two versions ? would that not take up allot more space on my hdd?
[21:50] <escott> Aserercoff, if windows were very poorly written this could cause the installer to crash, but it shouldn't matter
[21:51] <sambagirl> oh i figured it out it has a dash home
[21:51] <Aserercoff> escott, ok, I would come back then. Thanks, again, for your services.
[21:51] <dlentz> GhostConn, previous versions = previous kernels
[21:51] <escott> ThatGuy85, ahhh so lightweight = additional bugs then
[21:51] <dlentz> you can remove old kernels after you boot into the new one
[21:51] <mirko1> GhostConn: no, i mean that you might have now two kernels and it shows two entries for each kernel. that wouldn't make two ubuntu versions.  are there multiple vmlinuz file /boot?
[21:53] <jorn> heyho, i'm just upgrading a virtual private server from 8.04 to 10.04 LTS... the problem is that during the upgrade grub is meant to be updated, but it complains:
[21:53] <jorn> update-grub
[21:53] <jorn> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[21:53] <human1101> Hi, i am having trouble with ubuntu under vmware using kernal 2.6.17-12-generic getting error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format
[21:53] <GhostConn> nope the only options i have a linux mint 12 & recovery mode,windows 7, ubuntu 11:10 & recovery mode   and last but not least my new option previous versions ... inside the previous version is ubuntu also
[21:54] <sambagirl> how do i find the serverlets?
[21:55] <dlentz> GhostConn, so what is the issue?
[21:55] <ThatGuy85> escott: In this case, that truth be true
[21:56] <GhostConn> i was just wondering if i now hard two identical copies of ubuntu installed ? or is that just an option to run ubuntu with the old kernel
[21:56] <sambagirl> how do you hide the little panel on the left?
[21:56] <GhostConn> have**
[21:57] <dlentz> GhostConn, it's just two kernel versions, and you can remove the older one(s) if it bothers you
[21:57] <mirko1> GhostConn:  exactly
[21:58] <human1101> is anybody able to help with the problem i am having?
[21:58] <GhostConn> thanks guys no it dose not bother me at all.. I was just wondering why all the sudden it was there lol, i thought it somehow made a complete new install of ubuntu
[21:58] <dlentz> depends on the problem..
[21:58] <human1101> Hi, i am having trouble with ubuntu under vmware using kernal 2.6.17-12-generic getting error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format
[21:58] <sambagirl> how do you set the properties for the panel that is on your left side????
[21:58] <GhostConn> thanks for explaining to me guys
[21:59] <calsinking> ljt: OMG IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKYOU SO MUCH MAN I REALLY APPRETIATE IT!!!!!!!
[21:59] <UbuntuServerNewb> Does anybody know how to setup a domain name on my server?
[22:00] <sambagirl> i'll just go back to 10.10 cause i cant get any help here and  it's a waste of time
[22:00] <sambagirl> later
[22:00] <human1101> so no answer to the problem does that mean that nobody knows? or am i missing some edicate to asking?
[22:01] <GhostConn> sambagirl what do you need
[22:01] <dlentz> she's ogne..
[22:01] <GhostConn> lol oh well
[22:01] <GhostConn> impatient
[22:01] <dlentz> i don't use unity, but i could have told her to use gnome classic..
[22:01] <_SudoFox> svn.json-rpc.org is down
[22:02] <escott> human1101, we need more details. you get this when?
[22:02] <human1101> when i try to boot the o/s
[22:03] <GhostConn> human1101 ???
[22:03] <dlentz> human1101, it could be a 32/64-bit issue
[22:03] <synesp> libcurl4-gnutls-dev   libcurl4-nss-dev      libcurl4-openssl-dev
[22:03] <synesp> whats the difference between these 3 packages?
[22:03] <synesp> and what should I be using?
[22:04] <human1101> on load of ubuntu 11.10 in vmware workstation 8 it says error 13, invalid or unsupported executable format
[22:04] <human1101> press any key to continue...
[22:04] <escott> synesp, gnutls, nss or openssl :) it shouldn't really matter and you probably have all three installed anyways
[22:04] <drumblue> synesp: that depends what you're trying to do :) what are you needing it for?
[22:04] <synesp> I'm building a PHP extension that requires curl.h
[22:04] <human1101> then when i do that it gives me a choice of kernal, the newest kernal goes back to that screen\
[22:04] <synesp> so I went to go install the dev packages for curl and theres 3
[22:05] <human1101> the other one seems to load then hangs on usb hub
[22:05] <escott> human1101, likely a setup error in the vmware virtualized hardware. check that the virtual hardware matches the installed os
[22:05] <human1101> any idea how i can check that?
[22:06] <GhostConn> why use vmware lol i really dont understand why not just dual boot without with headache and frustration of the buggy software
[22:06] <synesp> drumblue: I'm building a PHP extension that requires curl.h, so I went to go install the dev packages for curl and theres 3
[22:06] <synesp> and whoever said install all 3, you can't they conflict eachother
[22:06] <drumblue> synesp: then I'm guessing your program is using SSL of some kind, as those three packages are all related? I'd install all three, if I were you. They are all useful
[22:06] <drumblue> synesp: do they? why?
[22:06] <synesp> hm, im getting conflict errors
[22:06] <synesp> wtf
[22:06] <synesp> haha
[22:06] <GhostConn> lol
[22:06] <escott> synesp, you can only link to one of them. it shouldn't matter which
[22:07] <escott> synesp, there is the outside chance you encounter some buggy server which has some odd config and refuses to talk with the other in which case you change your electino
[22:07]  * drumblue skulks away and admits while trying to be useful, he was being dumb too... ;-)
[22:07] <human1101> because i use adobe packages to for designing and require the use of the ubuntu operating system for the dev, until now i have had no problems with vmware and have been using it for about 2 years
[22:07] <synesp> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcurl4-gnutls-dev : Conflicts: libcurl-dev  libcurl nss-dev : Conflicts: libcurl-dev  libcurl4-openssl-dev : Conflicts: libcurl-dev
[22:07] <synesp> I can only install one
[22:07] <macer1> synesp: use libcurl or libcurl4
[22:07] <macer1> exactly
[22:08] <ubuntuServer404> How to setup a domain on Ubuntu server?
[22:08] <GhostConn> uninstall all you're vmware packages and reinstall them
[22:08] <dlentz> human1101, ar you trying to install a 32-bit or 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[22:08] <synesp> heres the answer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6080152/libcurl-kubuntu-11-04
[22:08] <synesp> first answer
[22:09] <llamahawk> ubuntuServer404 there is a very informative documentation for all server needs
[22:09] <synesp> i wouldnt need to install all 3..
[22:10] <llamahawk> ubuntuServer404 its on the ubuntu site
[22:10] <human1101> its a 64bit version and its allready installed
[22:10] <dlentz> synesp, there are differences, but you probably won't care: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_TLS_Implementations
[22:10] <_SudoFox> -------- Hey, can I cut in? ---------------
[22:10] <human1101> i have been using it for about 6 months
[22:10] <escott> !ask | _SudoFox
[22:10] <dlentz> human1101, i see
[22:10] <synesp> dlentz: yes just got to this page
[22:11] <human1101> what do you see?
[22:11] <_SudoFox> huh.
[22:11] <human1101> oh and the other thing is it is a fresh install of vmware
[22:12] <dlentz> i meant that i see that this isn't the first time you're booting it
[22:12] <_SudoFox> Hey, svn.json-rpc.org is down. I can't download my program. What should I do?
[22:12] <human1101> i tried to use the boot_repair_disk.iso wich loaded fine but when i tried to resore grub to the legacy version it told me to close all software packaging windows
[22:13] <human1101> wich there were none open
[22:13] <escott> _SudoFox, wait until svn.json-rpc.org is up? how is this an ubuntu question?
[22:13] <human1101> ah ok
[22:13] <_SudoFox> (awkward.) (Now I've been off-topic-reprimanded  on two channels.
[22:13] <llamahawk> _SudoFox probably cuz u were off topic
[22:14] <auronandace> _SudoFox: perhaps you should start reading the topics
[22:14] <_SudoFox> You don't say, llamahawk?
[22:14] <_SudoFox> ;P
[22:14] <llamahawk> lol
[22:14] <caB00T> lol
[22:15] <_SudoFox> I was under the impression that the server was important, and that a bunch of people would say something along the lines of, "What? That's terrible! Better contact the admin, quick!" etc, etc
[22:15] <Gasseus> I'm experiencing a bug with the alternate install disk that whenever it tries to start partitioning, it flops... is there any way to get around this?
[22:16] <human1101> all my dev server and things are setup in this ubuntu install
[22:16] <human1101> i have allready spent a few days trying to get it to work again
[22:17] <human1101> i have a vmware log file but i can't make heads or tails of it
[22:17] <_SudoFox>  /join json
[22:17] <_SudoFox> huh?
[22:17] <caB00T> Drop the " ". :p
[22:18] <_SudoFox> er, it's not supposed to do that... #json
[22:18] <_SudoFox> There we go!
[22:18] <escott> Gasseus, does it say anything when it flops?
[22:18] <Gasseus> escott: no. It says "detecting disks", once that bar fills up, it goes to a blank blue screen and the cd drive indicator turns off.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> human1101: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:19] <human1101> is there a way you can install ubuntu over itself, like you can with windows?
[22:19] <_Tristan> Hello. I have ubuntu 11.10 and 10.10 for dual booty purposes on my drive, but grub only notices 11.10. How can I draw it's attention to 10.10?
[22:19] <computer_> how do i share my wifi internet connection from my computer? something like virtualrouter?
[22:19] <human1101> and keep the files and things
[22:19] <escott> Gasseus, have you tried booting to the livecd instead of the installer and using gparted to see if you can manipulate the disk partitions
[22:19] <escott> !ics | computer_
[22:20] <Gasseus> escott the livecd won't run on this machine.
[22:20] <computer_> isnt there like a simple app for it?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> human1101: Yes, but basically only user files, those in /home/, will be preserved.
[22:20] <escott> human1101, i think the installer has a preserve home option, but back up your vm image first
[22:21] <auronandace> _Tristan: sudo grub-update (or update-grub, never remember which way it is), also 10.10 will be end-of-life next month
[22:21] <animalitos_> guys anyhelp for install loic inmy ubuntu
[22:21] <pangolin> animalitos_, no.
[22:21] <Fyodorovna> Tristam, try sudo update-grub in 11.10
[22:21] <escott> Gasseus, and how does the livecd fail?
[22:21] <Gasseus> animalitos_: Hacking isn't the subject of this channel
[22:21] <human1101> ok ill give it a go and get back to yaas
[22:21] <Gasseus> escott: not enough ram (1 gb, always complains about ram)
[22:22] <escott> !alternate | Gasseus
[22:22] <Gasseus> escott: ... I AM using the alternate
[22:23] <Gasseus> That's my problem however
[22:23] <Gasseus> it won't partition.
[22:23] <pangolin> Gasseus, you could try the server install and then install whatever GUI you want on it.
[22:23] <escott> Gasseus, you should be able to get to a console maybe ctrl-alt-f2 and use fdisk from there to verify that it can partition
[22:24] <Gasseus> escott: mmk... rebooting I'll try that out.
[22:24] <human1101> it says the partition table is missing
[22:25] <human1101> maybe thats the problem i am having
[22:25] <mrfunk> Hello, im having trouble connecting to my router, the error is "activation of network connection failed"
[22:25] <Jordan_U> human1101: What is "saying" this and what is the exact error message?
[22:25] <mirko1> computer_:  don't know what virtual router is, but the Firestarter GUI to Linux' internal firewall makes it eary to enable internet-connection-sharing
[22:27] <human1101> in the install window under something else, it has /dev/sda and an option to create a new partition table and if i just go to install now it says there is no root file system defined, please correct this at the partitioning menu
[22:28] <macer1> Anyone in Bug Control here?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> human1101: Did you actually select the option to create a new partition table? That might have whiped out all of the data currently on the disk (as it should have warned you rather clearly).
[22:29] <mrfunk> Hello, im having trouble connecting to my router, the error is "activation of network connection failed" is there anything i can do?
[22:29] <Gasseus> escott I tried, its busybox, and fdisk isn't available.
[22:30] <human1101> i did that after the error i just mentioned, i have a backup of the vmware image
[22:30] <Jordan_U> !who | human1101
[22:30] <_SudoFox> or use /msg nick messagehere
[22:31] <Jordan_U> !pm | _SudoFox
[22:31] <escott> Gasseus, im not too familiar with the debian installer so you might (a) verify the md5sum (b) try a cli rescue cd to verify the hardware is operating correctly
[22:31] <_SudoFox> If you
[22:31] <_SudoFox> oops, hold on
[22:32] <_SudoFox> If you're talking to someone, it's sorta implied that you have their consent to talk to them.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> human1101: You are not explaining things very clearly at all. What is the *first* error message you saw, please explain what lead up to that error message and quote it exactly (using quotation marks to make it more clear).
[22:32] <Jordan_U> _SudoFox: Not via private message, no.
[22:42] <Guest94549> penis
[22:43] <_SudoFox> (socially awkward moment)
[22:43] <pp7> (red faced)
[22:43] <_SudoFox> This isn't the place to play the p**** game.
[22:43] <_SudoFox> But yes, that's how you play the game.
[22:44] <pp7> join irc --> say "penis" --> wait for comments??
[22:44] <_SudoFox> (for those who have no idea what I'm talking about, the p**** game is where you say that word at an awkward moment
[22:46] <ew> _SudoFox: scabzzzz is bad at it
[22:47] <_SudoFox> Let's take this elsewhere please.
[22:47] <pangolin> _SudoFox, pp7 this game you were speaking of is off topic.
[22:47] <_SudoFox> This is a chatroom for Ubuntu, not a college cammpus.
[22:47] <_SudoFox> pangolin Yes, I know.
[22:48] <ew> _SudoFox: that explains the silence
[22:48] <SBC33> _SudoFox - There is an offtopic channel for.. other things.
[22:57] <caB00T> I am reading this book that is underlining the importance of safely removing storage devices like, a lot.
[22:57] <caB00T> What is the worst case scenario  and how often does it happen?
[22:58] <macer1> caB00T: depends
[22:58] <macer1> :>
[22:59] <escott> caB00T, complete loss of data would be the worst case, usually if you wait at least a few seconds between trying to move files onto the usb and removing (and the usb lights are inactive) nothing bad will happen
[22:59] <caB00T> Figured it'd be something like that... Tnx. :)
[23:00] <hmmm> mitra?
[23:00] <hmmm> aaaaaa
[23:01] <zykotic10> caB00T: 9 times out of 10 it's probably fine, but it's always dumb to remove a device that's mounted (why take the risk?)
[23:02] <bonks> Does ubuntu have a feature to "reset to factory"?
[23:02] <caB00T> Laziness prolly... :p Ofc, u are right, but wanted to check if there's some greater danger under Linux, same old though.
[23:02] <caB00T> :)
[23:02] <zykotic10> bonks: reinstall
[23:02] <Epyoch> Why is it whenever I am attempting to install Ubuntu 11.10 from a usb on this computer...it shows the ubuntu splash screen, my video card fan speed goes to max (vid card is amd radeon hd 6800 series), then monitor shuts off and goes to standby mode?
[23:03] <zykotic10> !nomodeset | Epyoch
[23:03] <bonks> zykotic10: I don't have physical access right now
[23:04] <zykotic10> bonks: then "no"
[23:11] <Scott_Z> what software should I install to play a store bought DVD?
[23:12] <ceres> google.com
[23:12] <DJones> !dvd | Scott_Z
[23:13] <mirko1> !dvd
[23:14] <ceres> clear
[23:18] <mirko1> stupid, OT question (am a mailinglist/usenet not an IRC person): if i enter !dvd or other ! commands do they enter the channel?
[23:18] <buttscicles> yes
[23:19] <escott> mirko1, yes, but you can pm ubottu
[23:19] <mirko1> ok, thanks,
[23:23] <aguitel> how to run gnome 2.x in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[23:24] <hank3three3chat> just log out, and just above the loge n box is a wheel click on that and choose gnome 2
[23:25] <xangua> aguitel gnome2 is no longer maintained by gnome foundation
[23:26] <aguitel> xangua, i know but all people don't like gnome 3
[23:26] <triscuit> gmp,e 3 is better than unity in my opinion
[23:27] <triscuit> gnome*
[23:27] <aguitel> gnome 3 ,unity are same shi....t
[23:27] <heizmann> Hi, question under Lucid :) to save the config of the gnome-desktop, what I need to save ? /home/$USER/.gconf/* ? /home/$USER.gconfd/* ? both :) ?
[23:27] <xangua> !language | aguitel
[23:28] <aguitel> xangua, sorry
[23:28] <heizmann> Hi, question under Lucid :) to save the config of the gnome-desktop, what I need to save ? /home/$USER/.gconf/* ? /home/$USER/.gconfd/* ? both :) ? (sorry: "/" missed...)
[23:29] <aguitel> there is "mate" fork of gnome 2.x ,but i don't know if it work fine
[23:29] <air00> unity is nice, i really like the fact that in 12.04 the shortcuts picture is included by default in unity 3d (just press and hold super key)
[23:30] <air00> you press and hold super and see all important shortcuts.. sleek :D
[23:33] <mirko1> heizmann: not entirely sure what .gconfd/session_data  is for (dynamic run-time session data?), but AFAIK the whole configuration happens in .gconf.
[23:34] <yumyum> hey how do i set up my no-ip.com on my ssh server im real confused
[23:35] <jdmshiz> Hello having trouble installing my ati driver, it says error & to check my jockey file
[23:36] <yumyum> hey how do i set up my no-ip.com for my ssh server im on the site but dont know how to add my public ip address so that i can use a hostname even when the ip changes on my ssh server
[23:37] <mirko1> yumyum:  your ssh server is most probably behind a router so you have to configure the dynamic IP there (please do not set up a public accessible server on your own if you don't know what you're doing)
[23:38] <haux> When I enable "Dual Graphics" (sort of like crossfire) in AMD's Catalyst Control Center, Ubuntu freezes at the loading screen.
[23:38] <haux> Any ideas as to what might be going on?
[23:39] <yumyum> all i want is when my public ip address changes at my house (ssh server) that i can connect back to it even though that public ip changes
[23:39] <yumyum> dyndns.org doesnt do it for free no more
[23:42] <biosink> Argentina
[23:42] <yumyum> nobodyh has any idea?
[23:43] <escott> yumyum, i think dyndns still offers a free service but not from dyndns.com
[23:44] <mirko1> yumyum: what is your exact network structure? do you have a router or just a plain modem? if you have a router, then your router has the public IP and needs to be configured for dynamic IP services.
[23:48] <Pe0ple> quit
[23:50] <wickedwiccan> anyone have any idea how to clear up this error when i do sudo apt-get update
[23:50] <wickedwiccan> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EA8F35793D8809A
[23:51] <itaylor57> !precise | wickedwiccan
[23:53] <ubuntu__> lol
[23:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:56] <rileyp> snap..... I mean split
[23:59] <happyface> :D