[00:32] <UnknownFork> Is there an Xubuntu wubi installer? (Not that I like Windows, but I just need to run Windows applications, and I don't like Wine.)
[00:36] <UnknownFork> Is there?
[04:28] <gry> what does the 'open with...' dialog use to populate the list?
[04:42] <twilson_> hey! How do I setup dual monitors so that one screen extends the other rather than cloning the other
[04:44] <twilson_> running 11.10 using Xfce, clean install, intel chipset graphics, second monitor is running hdmi, first is dvi...
[04:45] <twilson_> I tried apt-get install nvidia-settings but that causes both screens to go black after a restart just before I log in
[04:45] <twilson_> had to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get the screens back again
[04:45] <twilson_> surely this should be straight-forward
[05:04] <well_laid_lawn> twilson_: there's a gui for that in the settings manager
[05:04] <twilson_> you mean Settings Manager > Display? I can't find any option to not clone the screens
[05:05] <twilson_> my options are Use this output; Resolution; Refresh Rate; Rotation; Reflection
[05:06] <well_laid_lawn> twilson_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62681/how-do-i-setup-dual-monitors-in-xfce
[05:07] <twilson_> cheers
[05:07] <well_laid_lawn> or use arandr
[05:12] <twilson_> bbl
[05:15] <twilson_> arandr worked
[05:15] <twilson_> thanks
[05:19] <beata> Do any y'all have recommendation of a particular theme set to begin, to learn to customise/create new themes?
[06:16] <hety> hello everyone
[06:17] <hety> is there any way to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 ? or i have to reinstall from cd?
[06:21] <psycho_oreos> !12.04| hety
[06:21] <gry> psycho_oreos, do you happen to see / know an answer to question I asked here few hours ago?
[06:22] <hety> ow :)
[06:22] <psycho_oreos> gry, just saw your question in my chat buffer, I'm afraid I don't have a clue on that
[06:22] <psycho_oreos> gry, curiously, the gnome documentation won't cover that? or maybe even asking in #gnome for example?
[06:23] <gry> oh, sorry. I'm using xfce. I didn't check gnome docs yet
[06:23] <psycho_oreos> hmm maybe even xfce support channel as well, now that I realise where I am lmao
[06:23] <gry> :-)
[07:59] <beata> This is probably only silly, but I will offer the clock dockapp display of day-tenths and smaller units.
[12:41] <lewis1711> xubuntu uses the xfwm4 window manager, right?
[12:42] <lewis1711> ok I try and kill xfwm4 and it starts up again straight away
[12:43] <oxicarus> guys when i april do you think 12.04 will flip its daylight view? =D
[12:43] <oxicarus> beginning / end?
[12:47] <lewis1711> okay I am at settings -> session and startup, how exactly do I add things here? i see no button. also can't change restart style, though it is displayed
[12:49] <lewis1711> the only thing I can do is quite program
[12:49] <holstein> lewis1711: quite?... what is "restart style" ?
[12:51] <TVasEyes> holstein: 'restart style' right-most column in Session tab.
[12:55] <holstein> TVasEyes: cool.. what does it mean/do though?
[12:56] <TVasEyes> is a status indicator I think, never had cause to look into chaging the values.
[12:57] <TVasEyes> good question by lewis1711 though, it would be nice to know where to prevent the wm from re-starting automatically.
[13:01] <pleia2> oxicarus: release date is april 26: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[13:01] <pleia2> (if that's what you mean)
[13:04] <oxicarus> nice pleia2 thnx
[13:04] <oxicarus> the famous unmute-volume-using-keyboard-quickkey-bug will prolly be solved, right?
[13:05] <pleia2> oxicarus: hopefully :) the devs have been actively testing it this past week
[13:05] <oxicarus> sweet, sounds promising, to say the least :>
[13:22] <knome> oxicarus, yes, that should be fixed in beta2
[13:22] <oxicarus> knome: nice going on the input there, thanks alot :) oh, i can barely wait for all the exciting news, and the lts not to speak of.
[13:22] <oxicarus> awesome! i really love 'buntu!
[13:23] <knome> thanks for the praise
[15:09] <xubuntu536> Hey, guys. I'm installing Xubuntu as my first linux OS ever as I heard its very user friendly.
[15:11] <xubuntu536> Seems like everyone here is AFKing, lol.
[15:11] <holstein> xubuntu536: is this your first time here? .. its not really a social channel.. try #xubuntu-offtopic for chat
[15:12] <xubuntu536> Yes it is my first time here. Sorry for the trouble.
[15:12] <genii-around> xubuntu536: If you have support questions this would be the right place to ask those
[17:40] <OMG> hi guys!
[17:41] <OMG> can anyone help me? i want my xubuntu to show mounted devices on the desktop. it shows usb-mounts but no devices mounted via fstab (mountpoint is /media/xyz)
[17:41] <OMG> how can i fix this?
[17:43] <GridCube> OMG: it wont show them
[17:43] <GridCube> you can add shortcuts to them
[17:43] <TVasEyes> OMG: remove entries from fstab.  (different mechanisms used)
[17:43] <OMG> hm. nautilus does. no possibility to change that behaviour?
[17:43] <GridCube> no
[17:43] <GridCube> xfce doesnt use nautilus
[17:44] <OMG> but it also does not show mounted samba shares
[17:44] <GridCube> no, it wont
[17:44] <OMG> hm. ok.
[17:46] <OMG> bookmarking and tree-view is also not possible in thunar
[17:46] <OMG> i mean same time
[17:46] <ochosi> sure it is
[17:46] <ochosi> oh right
[17:46] <ochosi> yeah, it's either or
[17:46] <OMG> hehe
[17:47] <OMG> so there is no way to "simulate" the nautilus behaviour at least
[17:47] <TVasEyes> OMG:  have a look at ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[17:47] <GridCube> OMG: press ctrl-t on thunar to get treeview
[17:47] <GridCube> :/
[17:48] <OMG> TVasEyes: yes. checked that. but id like to have treeview + shown bookmarks.
[17:49] <TVasEyes> oh, missed the 'at hte same time' bit. sorry.
[17:50] <OMG> :)
[17:50] <OMG> ok.. so there is no super-cool-magic-linux-use-the-terminal-type-something-and-it-works-way except usind nautilus? :D
[17:51] <OMG> then.. how can i set nautilus to manage the desktop?
[17:52] <TVasEyes> OMG: using Thunar here, I'm out..
[17:52] <Sysi> OMG: should do that by default.
[17:52] <Sysi> gconf-editor or gnome-tweak-tool
[17:54] <OMG> yes it does, but i have to start it manually and it has to be started otherwise the desktop falls back to default
[17:54] <OMG> i found out that i have to start nautilus -n &
[17:54] <Sysi> remove xfdesktop from session in session&startup settings
[17:54] <OMG> but where do i set this to be done on startup?
[17:55] <Sysi> you can also set autostarts commands there (settings manager -> session and startup)
[17:56] <Sysi> you probably should remove old saved sessions with "rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions"
[17:57] <OMG> ah ok
[17:57] <OMG> i think i managed it
[17:57] <OMG> hm..
[17:59] <OMG> it does not show any symbols hehe
[18:01] <z0ttel> hiho
[18:01] <z0ttel> I'd like to switch to xubuntu and was wondering about the ifupdown support
[18:01] <OMG> ok, thanks a lot guys il try to restrat
[18:01] <z0ttel> are there any known problems when switching from the nm-applet to ifupdown?
[18:03] <knome> z0ttel, switch from where?
[18:03] <knome> z0ttel, in that regard, xubuntu should be the same as ubuntu
[18:03] <z0ttel> okay - then I'll have a look at ubuntu users :)
[18:03] <z0ttel> merci
[18:03] <knome> np
[18:10] <z0ttel> no specific documentation found - I'll just test it in a vm -.-
[18:48] <CellTech> Blckberry will no longer mount for mass storage
[18:50] <holstein> CellTech: did you upgrade the blackberry? did you upgrade ubuntu? when did it break? why? are there any messages? do you see it if you open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l" ??
[18:50] <CellTech> No updates, no break, no messages, does charge. Let me try that terminal real fast, and lsusb doesn't see it either
[18:50] <CellTech> brb
[18:52] <CellTech> Not sure what I'm looking for in fdisk -l
[18:52] <holstein> CellTech: you are looking for the mass storage device
[18:53] <holstein> its either there or its not
[18:53] <holstein> i would try another USB port
[18:53] <holstein> i would look at the bb config as well
[18:53] <CellTech> hmm. Could it just be a missing driver?
[18:53] <holstein> i doubt it
[18:53] <CellTech> I did gtkorphan my system recently
[18:53] <holstein> if you changed nothing
[18:54] <holstein> well, thats what i would look at.. what you changed
[18:54] <holstein> i would boot up a live CD and make sure the hardware is working
[18:54] <holstein> i would think about making another user account and testing from there
[18:55] <CellTech> Would libimobile work?
[18:55] <holstein> i would take the BB to another machine
[18:55] <holstein> CellTech: i dont have a BB
[18:55] <CellTech> It sucks cause in a couple days I'm gonna have a Nokia Lumia windows phone
[18:56] <holstein> then the live CD will let you transfer assuming its a config issue
[18:58] <CellTech> Gotta make one
[19:34] <xubuntu830> sdfsdf
[19:34] <xubuntu830> hello???
[19:41] <Guest42780> hello
[20:20] <Artemis3> has anyone here upgraded to 12.04?
[20:34] <pimperle> how can i make the network-manager's popups notifications respect the timeout setting in xfce4-notifyd-settings?
[20:35] <pimperle> i've set it to 2 seconds, but the network connectivity popups won't fade away but stay there till i manually close them
[20:35] <pimperle> which part of the configuration might i have to delete, to get back to default settings?
[20:38] <DinoMuffin> Hello, is there a way to get xrandr to use dual monitors with different resolutions in a non-mirrored setup?
[20:39] <DinoMuffin> I'm trying to use a 1680x1050 DVI monitor with a old CRT
[20:40] <beata1> I may be having the same issue with notifications. Good point to set the timeout low while poking at it.
[20:42] <DinoMuffin> :/
[20:44] <beata1> pimperle: The update notifier also causes a non-timeout notification on this system, on default settings. Wait... it DID time out, but after about 30 seconds, while I was busy entering this reply.
[20:46] <Sysi> DinoMuffin: should work, arandr is nice GUI for xrandr
[20:47] <DinoMuffin> Sysi:  well, when I try 'xrandr --output CRT1 --left-of DFP1' it returns:
[20:47] <DinoMuffin> xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1680x1680 (desired size 2704x1050)
[20:51] <Sysi> well that's problem with your graphics card, what model is it?
[20:53] <DinoMuffin> Radeon HD 5870
[20:53] <DinoMuffin> It works fine under windows
[20:56] <beata1> ... 'xrandr: screen cannot be largen than' ... I'm sure I've seen that phrase crop up before. Alas, I know not where. Had a search not turn up anything helpful?
[20:57] <DinoMuffin> Well, I'm not sure what exactly is happening. I know the max supported resolution on the card is 2560 x 1600
[20:58] <DinoMuffin> and it's complaining about going to 2704x1050
[20:58] <DinoMuffin> But that still doesn't make much sense to me, seeing how windows can somehow do it.
[21:00] <beata1> I'm afraid I don't know any more, but hopefully there will be someone who will.
[21:01] <DinoMuffin> thanks anyways
[21:08] <DinoMuffin> I think I might of found the problem. One forum suggests changing the 'Virtual' variable in xorg.conf
[21:08] <DinoMuffin> then applying the xrandr configuration
[21:09] <well_laid_lawn> see what the X log says is the max available
[21:09] <well_laid_lawn> you might need to change drivers
[21:09] <Sysi> I think you should use propriatary driver and then something different config tool
[21:10] <DinoMuffin> hm
[21:12] <DinoMuffin> Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 43  vert.: 27 ?
[21:16] <DinoMuffin> Oh, well there are a lot of lines that say '(width too large for virtual size)' for anything over 1680x1050
[21:16] <DinoMuffin> probably is a driver problem then
[21:31] <onurxserver> !op
[21:31] <Myrtti> whut?
[21:32] <Myrtti> grrr
[21:42] <pimperle> beata1: are you on a fresh install? is this the default setting to show those nofitications for longer than 30 seconds
[23:27] <xubuntu748> alguem do brasil?
[23:40] <GridCube> !br | xubuntu748
[23:42] <xubuntu748> ubottu: thanks