/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/24/#juju.txt

SpamapSbkerensa: ^^ Well done! :)00:00
bkerensalol00:02
bkerensaSpamapS: Does that mean it passes muster?00:02
SpamapSbkerensa: yes, it also means it will be regularly tested by our automated testing system00:03
SpamapSbkerensa: and when the built in backend charm store is out, it will be available as 'juju deploy subway' (without a local copy)00:04
bkerensaSpamapS: Good stuff well I hope to make improvements on it in the future including upstart job handling and eventually a upgrade hook (if the author continues to add features)00:05
SpamapSbkerensa: fantastic00:05
SpamapSbkerensa: to make sure you have the latest, do 'bzr pull --remember lp:charms/subway'00:06
bkerensaSpamapS: :P I dont get to be maintainer of my charm? :P00:07
SpamapSbkerensa: after you push your changes into your own branch (lp:~bkerensa/charms/oneiric/subway/trunk) you can propose them for merging into the official charm with 'bzr lp-propose'00:07
SpamapSbkerensa: you can be the maintainer if you want. You just have to become a member of charmers... which is really easy.. you just ask, and 2 of us +1 you ;)00:08
SpamapSbkerensa: the trade off is, you are expected to also do charm reviews and bug triage. :)00:08
bkerensauhh maybe after 12.04 release :P I am far to busy atm :)00:09
SpamapSbkerensa: we do it this way so that we can be sure that the charms are always up to date.00:09
SpamapSbkerensa: also your version of the charm will be available in the store at cs:~bkerensa/subway00:10
bkerensanice00:10
bkerensais this store web-based or does it ship in a gui or something?00:10
SpamapSbkerensa: we just want to keep the default set extremely high quality.. which means you have to seek our sponsorship for changes, or commit to being a full "charmer"00:10
SpamapSbkerensa: the store is just a backend service right now. Its undergoing live deployment right now.00:11
SpamapSbkerensa: notice if you type 'juju deploy subway' right now you get a DNS error ...00:11
bkerensaSpamapS: ahh yeah00:11
SpamapSbkerensa: there's also a readonly charm browser here http://charms.kapilt.com/~bkerensa/oneiric/subway00:12
bkerensaSpamapS: pretty neat browser00:14
SpamapShazmat: ^^ another fan of your work. :)00:15
hazmatSpamapS, its also available now at jujucharms.com00:31
hazmatSpamapS, just put that together today after a request jcastro00:31
SpamapSsweeeeeet00:32
SpamapShrm..00:34
SpamapSthere seems to be a bug in "broken" hooks00:34
hazmatSpamapS, ?00:34
SpamapShttp://paste.ubuntu.com/897196/00:34
SpamapSthats while inside db-relation-broken00:35
SpamapShappens not in debug-hooks as well00:35
hazmatSpamapS, what version?00:35
hazmatwe put a broken hook context into place00:35
SpamapSii  juju                    0.5+bzr494-1juju4~oneir next generation service orchestration system00:35
hazmatugh00:35
hazmatoh.. that is the departed hook context00:35
SpamapShazmat: breaks the mysql charm in an interesting way :-/00:35
hazmatSpamapS, so what would you expect it to tell you00:36
hazmatSpamapS, the relation has been broken, its not coming back00:36
hazmatthere are effectively no members of the other side00:36
hazmatso relation-list returns what?00:36
SpamapShazmat: I was using it to hack around bug #79104200:36
_mup_Bug #791042: *-relation-broken has no way to identify which remote service is being broken <juju:Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/791042 >00:36
hazmatSpamapS, ah so you wanted to get the remote service name..00:37
SpamapSright, I'm sure there are other ways to do what I want, which is to note that it is broken so the next time around certain things happen00:37
hazmathmm. we're doing some work right now to get relation-ids attached to relations.. and a relation-ids command.. to do relation cli api from any hook..00:37
SpamapSI can probably just use more predictable usernames, and remove the username.. and that will achieve what I want.00:37
hazmatthat would still be available in a broken context, but its rather bespoke as a resource identifier00:38
SpamapShazmat: as long as its the same during joined/changed/departed and broken :)00:38
hazmatit would be00:38
SpamapSI can use it as the username/pass00:38
hazmatit would look like db:4200:38
SpamapSwell not the pass00:38
SpamapSbut the username00:38
SpamapShazmat: so relation-list is just not allowed in broken?00:39
SpamapShazmat: also I still get '{}' when using juju-log in the local provider. Did we ever figure that out?00:40
hazmatSpamapS, yeah.. i did a have quick look at that one.. but its low on priority list to fix00:41
hazmatSpamapS, i think it should just return an empty list if invoked during broken00:42
hazmatits debatable00:42
hazmatits effectively useless then, and at least the error informs somewhat00:42
hazmatSpamapS, re juju-log its effectively printing its return value.. re the {}00:43
SpamapSah00:43
hazmatanyways.. family time.. ttyl00:44
SpamapShazmat: have a good weekend!00:44
hazmatSpamapS, you too!00:44
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_mup_juju/relation-ids-command r501 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com01:29
_mup_Fixed tests01:29
_mup_juju/relation-id-option r499 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com01:35
_mup_Merge upstream01:35
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_mup_juju/relation-ids-command r502 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com02:47
_mup_JUJU_RELATION default02:47
_mup_juju/relation-id r493 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com03:03
_mup_Rework internal relation id parsing03:03
_mup_juju/relation-hook-context r500 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com03:05
_mup_Docstrings03:05
_mup_juju/relation-id r494 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com03:06
_mup_Merged trunk03:06
_mup_juju/relation-hook-context r501 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com03:06
_mup_Merged upstream03:06
_mup_juju/relation-ids-command r503 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com03:07
_mup_Merged upstream03:07
_mup_juju/relation-ids-command r504 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com03:10
_mup_Docstring03:10
_mup_Bug #963640 was filed: Implement external relation id support <juju:In Progress> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/963640 >03:23
_mup_Bug #963642 was filed: Implement child relation hook context with lookup by relation id <juju:In Progress by jimbaker> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/963642 >03:24
_mup_Bug #963643 was filed: Implement relation-ids hook command <juju:In Progress> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/963643 >03:26
* SpamapS pokes at the mysql charm06:19
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hazmatjimbaker, rock the house09:55
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_mup_Bug #963931 was filed: possibly non-deterministic test juju.unit.tests.test_lifecycle.UnitRelationLifecycleTest.test_join_hook_error <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/963931 >14:36
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arashbmI'm trying to set up a local provider, How much time should it spend on 'Creating master container...' on a decent hardware but a slow connection? Is it trying to download something?17:32
arashbmHow can I find out whats going in inside lxc when juju debug-log says 'Creating master container...'?18:38
SpamapSdoh.. I just discovered help2man21:16
SpamapSand it works perfectly w/ argparse generated output21:16
* SpamapS does a little dance21:16
SpamapSyay, manpages for juju!21:16
imbrandonnice21:20
jelmer\o/21:20
* imbrandon is still trying to fight with it on OSX21:20
imbrandonok gas station , brb21:20
imbrandonSpamapS: btw mentioned you in my blogpost , didnt think youd mind given the context21:20
SpamapSimbrandon: we're all public figures. :)21:23
imbrandonSpamapS: haha true22:17
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imbrandonSpamapS: wanna know something else about nginx that makes it even more of a magic wand, and as i thought of it is gonna make a good case for a _only_ nginx charm23:33
imbrandonSpamapS: #       server {23:33
imbrandon#               listen     localhost:110;23:33
imbrandon#               protocol   pop3;23:33
imbrandon#               proxy      on;23:33
imbrandon#       }:)23:34
imbrandon:)23:34
imbrandonit speaks more than just http{,s} heh23:34
imbrandonoften overlooked , but if you already knew my bad :)23:35
marcoceppiimbrandon: epic23:45
marcoceppiholy crap, just thinking about that actually23:45
imbrandonmarcoceppi: heh23:51
imbrandonyea23:51
imbrandonits kinda epic and hard to wrap head arround all at once23:52
imbrandontakes a bit to sink in23:52
imbrandonbut its not an after thought either, its fully suported and from the begning was there23:52
imbrandonbrb afk a min23:52

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