[00:46] apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/yt85n.png [00:46] for you <3 [00:48] JontheEchidna: broken looking muon? [00:48] or is that a fix to something? [00:49] Riddell: that's showing the new progress throbber that shows up when the Muon Software Center is starting up [00:49] before it'd just sit like that for ~ a second while it loaded stuff [00:49] with no indication that it was working [00:50] lovely [00:51] JontheEchidna: threaded or split up in process method? [00:51] threaded using QtConcurrent/QFuture, makes it super-easy [00:51] dude you're elite [00:52] I've done very little threaded stuff, s-c-printer-kde is about the only one I think [00:53] All you have to do with QFuture is set up a QFuture object that will hold the results of your asynchronous function, connect it's finished() signal to a slot, then run your asynchronous function with QtConcurrent [00:55] it's all so much simpler than the java stuff I got (badly) taught at uni [00:55] here's the diff if you're curious: http://commits.kde.org/muon/2524feb991b59435b766a0a7c03ed56931333385 [00:56] I turned the init() method into a non-classed function, then I pass a function pointer to init along w/ the function parameters to QtConcurrent::run [00:57] My future watcher tells me when QtConcurrent has finished it's thread running my init function, and I get my nice QVector filled with apps [00:58] very handy for multithreading sorting [00:58] JontheEchidna: what are your initial impressions of apol's qml interface? [00:58] or creating large lists of objects [00:59] Riddell: I like it, but I'm not an expert with mobile UI's (not that I'm an expert with desktop ones) so I don't know what judgements I could make in that regard [00:59] What I'd really like to see is a set of style guidelines from KDE for mobile UI's, and QML UI's on the desktop [00:59] it seems that right now there's a bit of a "roll your own" thing going on [00:59] I guess this will become a more prominent issue when Qt/KDE5 roll around [01:00] when everything goes QML [01:00] * jalcine thinks JontheEchidna is, in fact, an elite, lol [01:00] :P [01:02] Should be addressed as soon as possible. [01:02] The sooner it happens, however, the more people that might want to use QML. [01:02] Riddell: I've been working w/ apol to work on UI warts as they become apparent, the UI is still very new and still does some funky stuff. I do like it in general, though. [01:03] I plan on keeping the classic QWidget Muon Software Center around until KDE5, and keeping the QML Installer for the "Active" flavour until that time. [01:03] (Active is the current hip word for mobile, right?) [01:06] Lol, could be [01:06] Riddell: We could do a UI review at UDS to get some input from the wider Kubuntu Contributor community, if we could work out a way for that to be done remotely. [01:24] JontheEchidna: yes please add to wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSQSeries [01:38] hmm kmix keeps crashing suddenly === emma is now known as em === jalcine is now known as Guest87532 === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [06:38] Riddell: yep. same here === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [07:52] Morning all, just tried to do a upgrade to precise from oneiric, got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897481/ [07:53] (i left it on overnight and just woke up to that :( ) [08:30] sigh. cant seem to get past that error and dont want to turn my PC off before I get it sorted :( [09:38] new Thunderbird update has the bug where the tooltips are Black text on very dark background. using KDE 4.8.1. with ubuntu 11.10 [09:47] georgelappies_: you can change tooltip background color in system settings to workaround this bug [09:49] schnelle: thanks, will do so. Where would one look to find the cause of this bug? is it coming from the oxygen-gtk gtk theme engine? [09:54] georgelappies_: I really don't know where bug is. I had this bug in chrome. Now the bug is present with firefox too [09:56] schnelle: you using the oxygen-gtk plugin as well? If I change my style to Raleigh for gtk the bug is gone but all gtk apps look fugly [09:58] georgelappies_: yes. probably it is oxygen-gtk bug. [10:03] Riddell: can Kubuntu use lighter tooltip background color by default? tooltip background color which works well with dark(black) and light(white) text [10:04] that way we can workaround bugs with tooltip like we had in libreoffice in oneiric [10:05] now in oneiric i have this tooltip bug with chrome and firefox, so i had to change tooltip background color [10:17] the 'Chrome' colour scheme works well as the tooltip colour is a light blue [10:19] ok the pool on ubuntu forums doesn't work [10:19] poll [10:25] i guess i have a solution for this [10:25] a fork [10:26] or something like that === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:48] right, so got the update to precise done, after a few shenanigans [14:21] hi all [14:52] Riddell, heya [14:57] quiet here today ..especially for a saturday [14:59] heya BluesKaj [14:59] rbelem, hey [15:00] BluesKaj, currently i only have this time for kubuntu :-( [15:00] BluesKaj, probably people a getting a little bit of fresh air :-D [15:01] busy guy eh , rbelem ...not so here ...being retired etc [15:02] yeah, spring is on it's way here , altho it's cloudy and dreary today [15:03] BluesKaj, yeah... you know... job, 1yr baby boy, family, new house [15:03] BluesKaj, r u retired already? [15:04] rbelem: I forgot you had a kid :) [15:04] :-D [15:04] jussi, you have two, right? [15:04] nope [15:04] just Elodi, 10 weeks old [15:05] jussi, awesome! first son! that's great [15:05] rbelem: Elodi is a girl ;) [15:05] jussi, i thought you had more, i dont know why o.O [15:06] rbelem, congrats jussi :) [15:06] jussi, what is the female form of son? [15:06] s/form/word/ [15:06] rbelem meant: "jussi, what is the female word of son?" [15:06] daughter [15:07] :-) [15:08] jussi, i want a baby girl also :-), but my wife says that she only wants one child :-( [15:08] aawww [15:09] jussi, how is she going? [15:09] rbelem, yes , i've been retired for a while ...linux became my hobby besides music and audio , after retirement [15:09] rbelem: just fine, sleeping right now [15:11] BluesKaj, nice :-) [15:11] BluesKaj, what have you been doing? [15:12] jussi, girls usually sleeps better than boys [15:12] jussi, mine didnt like very much to sleep [15:13] jussi, my wife and me had a really bad sleep nights during the first six months [15:14] BluesKaj, in the linux world :-) [15:14] rbelem: so you werent pulling a rodrigo much then ? :P [15:14] jussi, that's totally true [15:15] I know the feeling [15:15] rbelem, learning and helping ppl with kubuntu mostly [15:15] jussi, even today... i have to wake every @6am to take him to the baby school and then go to work [15:18] rbelem, baby school ? how old is he ? [15:19] BluesKaj, 1yr and 3months old [15:21] BluesKaj: "daycare" [15:21] i have to leave for a while [15:22] * rbelem was trying to backport kwin patch from master to 4.8.1 [15:37] jussi, yeah we used to pay for in home daycare , but these were usually just other young mothers === georgelappies is now known as 17SAAUE4G [16:07] hi rbelem === v is now known as vorian [17:01] wendar: ping [17:01] wendar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537566 << Best to have a look at this :) [17:01] shadeslayer: hi [17:01] okay [17:02] I can't figure out how to get root and CWM though [17:02] one of the commands fails .. no idea how to proceed atm [17:02] I got root before [17:03] oh, how? [17:04] http://androidroot.mobi/2011/11/14/introducing-razorclaw-v1/ [17:05] ah, I can't use that anymore ... [17:05] doesn't work ... [17:05] it worked for me [17:06] on sbk2 [17:06] where I hit a wall was finding any images that worked [17:06] (that wasn't even trying to run natively) [17:06] yeah, the tool came out after the fix for that exploit was already pushed to my device -.- [17:07] ah, bummer [17:07] it can't be flashed back to factory standard? [17:07] Not that I know of [17:07] lilstevie knows the SBKv2 key but he can't tell it to us [17:07] yeah, that's fair [17:08] we should bring him to the next UDS so he can unlock all our devices (without telling us what the sbk is) ;) [17:08] hehehe [17:09] He also says that there's no need for the SBK [17:09] how so? [17:10] No idea, I'll pastebin the discussion [17:10] that you can flash without it? [17:10] or that ASUS doesn't really need to use it? (i.e. it doesn't help them) [17:11] wendar: http://paste.kde.org/445706/ [17:11] line 26 [17:12] ah, okay [17:12] so, it's not really "native" [17:12] this is the loopback device method [17:13] yeah [17:13] it's still running ubuntu as a "guest" on top of android [17:13] damnit ASUS .. I hate you [17:13] yep [17:13] actually wait [17:13] but then, really if I got it working that far I'd be pretty happy [17:13] wendar: isn't it native? [17:13] you're flashing the boot.img to the partition [17:13] well, "native" would be entirely wiping android and replacing it with ubuntu [17:13] and then mounting a image as a loopback [17:14] ah [17:14] that way [17:14] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537566 < Is what you want then [17:14] yeah, so boot.img is just an extra file inside the ordinary android filesystem [17:14] and then you load that on the loopback device [17:14] removes android from what I understand [17:14] yup, that's exactly what I've been looking for [17:15] thanks for the link :) [17:15] :) [17:15] I away visiting my son this weekend, but will try it when I get back home [17:15] * shadeslayer goes back to figuring out how to get root [17:15] have fun :D [17:15] will let you know how far I get [17:15] awesome [17:15] * wendar cackles gleefully :) [17:46] BBL [18:37] rbelem: ping [18:38] shadeslayer, pong [18:38] Riddell, heya [18:38] rbelem: does precise have all the latest plasma active packages? [18:39] or did you hide stuff in other PPA's ? :P [18:39] shadeslayer, :-D [18:39] * shadeslayer is very close to getting ubuntu on his transformer [18:39] shadeslayer, everything is in the repos [18:39] awesome [18:40] shadeslayer, there are just a few adjustments that need to be done [18:40] ok, I'll first have to get the rootfs updated ;) [18:40] shadeslayer, :-) [18:41] * shadeslayer has to first make his own image for the transformer [18:42] shadeslayer, will you use linaro tools or will you create it using chroot? [18:43] not sure, I'm looking at this right now : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476835 [18:43] * shadeslayer is very excited [18:44] finally mananged to get CWM on the transformer, just need to flash the appropriate bits now [18:46] transformer? [18:47] yus [18:48] Riddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_Pad_Transformer [18:49] ah, ARM laptop? [18:49] ARM tablet [18:49] which has a dock ... [19:06] Riddell: can I get a EC2 for 30 minutes or so? My connection is stretched to the limit [19:07] I need to make a Plasma Active image for my transformer [19:21] shadeslayer: hi [19:21] \o [19:22] loading [19:22] thanks! [19:23] shadeslayer: ubuntu@ec2-174-129-178-18.compute-1.amazonaws.com [19:27] :D [19:31] rbelem: plasma-active should pull in everything that is required right? [19:32] shadeslayer, kubuntu-active should pull everything [19:32] ah ok [19:32] rbelem: E: Couldn't find these debs: kubuntu-active 0.o [19:33] on ports.ubuntu.com [19:33] Riddell, do we have active packages in ports.ubuntu.com? [19:35] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-active-meta/1.6 << Looks like it [19:36] o.O [19:40] ah, maybe debootstrap is only checking main [19:42] thar we go [19:43] rbelem: sure [20:13] apol: I think I might have broken the QML installer with this commit, but I'm not sure why my changes would have broken it: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/muon/repository/revisions/2524feb991b59435b766a0a7c03ed56931333385 [20:13] it doesn't show apps anymore :( [20:21] ugh xD [20:21] JontheEchidna: ok, don't worry I'll look into it on monday [20:22] cool, thanks [20:22] * apol g2g [20:22] enjoy the weeKend [20:22] you too [20:38] omg [20:39] atleast I'm in initramfs [20:39] :P [20:39] rbelem: Riddell ^ [20:55] Riddell, i finished to backport the mgraesslin kwin patch for kwin active [20:55] rbelem: does it work? [20:56] rbelem: what's it do? [20:56] * Riddell out [20:56] mgraesslin, i did not tested yet [20:56] Riddell, https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104299/diff/#index_header [20:56] my current machine is too slow to build [20:57] Riddell, do you have a faster machine :-D [20:59] i think i will have to build on my machine :'( [21:01] Riddell, mgraesslin, here is the patch http://paste.kde.org/445868/ backported from master to 4.8.1 :-) [21:02] rbelem: remove those for fade and fadedesktop [21:03] mgraesslin, taking a quick look. do you think it is ok? [21:03] mgraesslin, oki :-) [21:04] and I think you have to adjust the CMakeLists.txt inside tabbox [21:07] mgraesslin, there is no CMakeLists.txt there [21:08] well the files are installed from $somewhere [21:08] I think it's in the main CMakeLists.tx [21:08] t [21:09] found it [21:09] would this be the right place to ask about muon in 12.04 saying 'your package system is broken' and muon exiting, checking the error it says 'you are holding broken backages' [21:10] JontheEchidna, ^ :-D [21:11] I think that's a bit more of a user support question, your apt is broken [21:12] can't muon be a bit more cooperative and suggest a way how to resolve that? [21:12] that message comes from apt itself, and apt doesn't really have that functionality [21:13] * yofel was thinking of aptitude [21:13] but yeah, apt itself doesn't [21:13] yeah, aptitude does a bunch of additional dependency handling that I think it would be a mistake to try to do [21:14] because then suddenly weird behaviors become your bug :P [21:14] JontheEchidna: this is a 24hour old fresh install. only muon has been used. i would love to know how and what broke the package system [21:14] mgraesslin, here is the tabbox part http://paste.kde.org/445886/ [21:14] rbelem: yeah looks ok [21:15] Whiskey`Wonka: check your apt history and logs [21:15] yofel: what would i be looking for? there were no issues till now, trying to get network manager installed correctly [21:16] check the term.log in /var/log/apt/ for any errors (start at the bottom) [21:17] it should come installed correctly? [21:17] Hey there, the Kubuntu docs still need some love, so I'm going to continue working on them. Darkwing, do you prefer Windows or Windows? [21:18] Also, I notice that "file system" and "filesystem" are both used in various places in the documentation. Is there a preference for one over the other? [21:18] yofel: mmm nothing at the very end, but greping the file for error does have a few, all 3 are -> Unable to open directory /usr/lib/gio/modules: [21:19] google says its a known issue [21:19] Whiskey`Wonka: that doesn't say much without the context, and let's move to #kubuntu [21:19] or #ubuntu+1 rather [21:20] yofel: im in +1 [21:21] mgraesslin, it built kwinactive and kwinactive_gles [21:21] mgraesslin, is it expected? [21:22] mgraesslin, hum... and it generated the kwin_gles.shell and kwin.shell [21:23] rbelem: poke [21:23] * rbelem jumps [21:23] shadeslayer, :-) [21:23] rbelem: I want to create my own boot.img [21:23] using abootimg [21:23] do you have any experience in that field? [21:24] since tegra is not a OMAP platform I can't just use the intrid from the OMAP platform [21:25] shadeslayer, hum... i just generated from linaro tools [21:25] shadeslayer, but will you use another kernel? [21:26] another kernel? as in? [21:26] the current one isn't booting [21:26] I get dropped to initramfs [21:26] because it can't find the necessary modules [21:26] shadeslayer, hum... i see [21:27] shadeslayer, do you have an idea of which modules are? [21:27] nope [21:28] I get a bunch of these errors : FATAL error. could not load /lib/modules/2.6.36/4/modules.dep [21:28] shadeslayer, do you have the kernel from the xda thread? [21:29] nope [21:29] rbelem: if you have both gl and gles it will of course build two binaries [21:30] mgraesslin, nice :-) [21:30] and I have no idea what "kwin.shell" is [21:31] mgraesslin, this is the contents http://paste.kde.org/445898/ [21:33] yofel, heya :-D [21:36] rbelem: hey [21:37] yofel, do you have time to take a look in that funky debian/rules? [21:37] :-D [21:37] rbelem: did you try it out? [21:37] yofel, not yet [21:38] yofel, but i think it will not work as expected [21:40] I've never tried to build a package with 2 different patch sets yet, so I'm not quite sure how to do this either :/ [21:40] hum... [21:41] i'm so stupid [21:41] yofel, i think we can have only one patch set [21:42] I would say so [21:42] unless you figure out how to tell dh to patch, conf, build, inst, unpatch, patch, conf, build, inst the package [21:43] yofel, to enable the changes that i need we just have to pass a build parameter [21:43] well that's doable [21:43] * rbelem kicks himself [21:45] thanks yofel :-) [21:46] I don't think I helped much ^^ [22:26] OMFG [22:26] I did it [22:26] it's booting \o/ [22:27] yofel, hum... i just realized that there is one kubuntu active specific patch for kde-workspace [22:27] rbelem: the problem was a bad intrid [22:27] I just swapped it with a new one and voila [22:27] shadeslayer, awesome :-D [22:28] shadeslayer, is it running kubuntu active already? [22:28] rbelem: the rootfs is resizing w [22:28] will take a bit of time [22:28] probably 25 minutes or so [22:28] and then it'll boot into oneiric [22:29] For precise I'll need to compile the kernel myself since we don't have kernels for nvidia tegra [22:29] oh, I'll help wendar out a bit and give her the correct kernel blog [22:29] shadeslayer, why not? linaro dropped tegra support? [22:29] afaik they only have OMAP4 devices no? [22:30] shadeslayer, usually they compile stuff to work on all armv7 devices [22:30] hmm ... will try it out tomorrow then [22:31] it's 4 AM here [22:31] just want to fall into bed and sleep [22:31] shadeslayer, the problem would be kernel drivers [22:32] shadeslayer, ouch [22:32] hmmmm [22:32] I do have the driver sources [22:32] somewhere in this messy dir structure [22:33] ehehehe [22:33] :-) [22:35] sigh [22:35] still resizing [22:36] * shadeslayer writes documentation meanwhile [22:36] shadeslayer, what is the sdcard speed? [22:36] rbelem: it's on a eMMC [22:43] wendar: Ubuntu on your transformer in 10 easy steps : http://paste.kde.org/445916/ [22:44] sweet! can't wait to try it :) [22:45] yep, I can't wait for the resizing to finish :P [22:45] we also need to figure out how to get kernel support for the tegra 2 in the archives [22:46] a couple of things that need to be fixed here and there, will work on that tomorrow [22:48] and it's still resizing ... sigh ... how long will this take!!! [22:54] hmm ... i see a x ... [22:58] Riddell, ping [23:05] rbelem: do you know what binary needs to be executed to bring up a virtual keyboard in ubuntu? [23:05] anything will do [23:07] heh, nvm [23:09] shadeslayer, you will need the pkg plasma-active-keyboardcontainer [23:09] nope, wanted the ubuntu one [23:09] it's called onboard [23:10] shadeslayer, hum... never heard [23:10] http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-1110s-default-virtual-keyboard-onboard-096-released-exciting-new-features [23:11] shadeslayer, hum... nice [23:12] :) [23:35] rbelem: hi [23:35] Riddell, heya :-) [23:36] shadeslayer: ec2 machine can go? [23:37] Riddell, can we move kde-window-manager-common qml, desktop, svg files to kde-window-manager-data? [23:37] Riddell, then we will have kde-window-manager-common and kde-window-manager-active-common [23:37] and kde-window-manager-data [23:38] rbelem: -data to be used by both kwin and kwinactive? [23:38] Riddell, yup [23:38] sure [23:39] sweet [23:39] Riddell, i will make the changes, then i will ping you [23:41] rbelem: I'm probably going to bed soon so send an e-mail to kubuntu-devel list [23:41] Riddell, do you have a fast machine that i could use to build stuff? [23:41] rbelem: I can set up an ec2 [23:41] Riddell, how fast is an ec2? === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [23:43] rbelem: how fast do you want? [23:44] rbelem: ubuntu@ec2-23-20-187-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com [23:45] Riddell, that's good :-D [23:46] Riddell, a xeon is much faster than my 3yrs old core2duo :-D [23:46] Riddell, thanks [23:48] rbelem: please shut down when you've finished sudo poweroff -n -f [23:48] Riddell, oki [23:49] * rbelem wants to hug Riddell so bad [23:50] :-D [23:50] lucky me :) === jalcine_ is now known as Guest21090 [23:50] lol