[01:24] <Linatux> Hi guys - anyone have problems with KDM on oneric? KDM starts, but never get logon screen & console dies. Can ssh in, kill KDM & restart - all good. Tried lots of suggestions from forums but nothing seems help.
[01:28] <Linatux> tried gdm, xdm, lightdm - all seem to have the same problem
[01:31] <Linatux> nomodeset, radeon.nomodeset, latest ATI drivers, disable KMS, sleeps in kdm.conf.....
[01:39] <DarthFrog> Linatux: I was/am having something similar happening to me, in both Precise and Oneiric, though not at KDM.  I've just removed the fglrx driver and gone back to the radeon driver.  So far, so good.  <knock on wooden head>
[01:44] <Linatux> DarthFrog: That didn't seem to help for me, though I've changed quite a few other settings since then. It seems I have to start KDM, kill it then restart it before everything works. Alternatively, just startx works fine - OK for me, but a tad confusing for others in the household.
[03:00] <CryptoAlien> Hello?
[03:05] <CryptoAlien> anyone home?
[03:06] <bazhang> yes
[03:06] <CryptoAlien> bazhang: How are ya man!
[03:14] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know where network-manager keeps its configs? id like to move them between two computers
[03:18] <CryptoAlien> try /etc/init.d ?
[03:27] <jalcine> @pilot in
[03:38] <Whiskey`Wonka> CryptoAlien: well the script that runs it is there, not the saved configs
[04:03] <artao> Wacom Intuos 2 pen tablets. any help here gettin it set up correctly?
[04:49] <deer3212> my system goes to standby after 20 sec....after today update...help
[04:51] <deer3212> sorry...after 30 sec
[04:51] <deer3212> stand by or sleep....I checked the power setting and nothing is checked.
[06:37] <KRF> when trying to run "aptitude full-upgrade" i always get this: http://pastebin.com/BYPestEj - what are lines 19ff trying to tell me here?
[06:38] <KRF> with apt-get upgrade it suggests to upgrade just a subset of the packages and seems to ignore others
[07:04] <vibhav> Can Ubuntu Software Center run on Kubuntu?
[07:12] <jalcine_> YEah
[07:12] <jalcine_> *yeah
[07:13] <jalcine_> I used on there for quite some time.
[07:40] <shainp> NickServ identify 38yb2c4y
[07:43] <bazhang> shainp, /
[07:45] <shainp> Yeah. Sorry, I'm a bit new to IRC.
[08:52] <Guest32864> hi guys, anyone know how to modify device notifier so that when I plug in generic mp3 player I have the option to open amarok?
[09:28] <corverse> hi everyone
[09:31] <brenty> whats up?
[09:32] <brenty> wish i could add a working trash shortcut to the desktop folder view that shows empty or full. other than a widget placed over it
[09:37] <brenty> perhaps a show trash folder check box in folder view settings for your desktop folder widget???
[09:43] <Peace-> brenty: wait
[09:43] <brenty> http://tinypic.com/r/14ay4o2/5
[09:44] <brenty> i made a url link to location trash:/   but it would be nice to have it show empty when it is...
[09:44] <Peace-> brenty: you need to reload
[09:44] <Peace-> brenty: i guess f5
[09:45] <brenty> that link is what my desktop look like :)
[09:46] <Peace-> brenty: but here when i delete it reload the folder http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/24/plasma-desktopwv1807.png
[09:49] <brenty> ah ok. i didnt mean delete it from the desktop. i meant a working trash icon that shows if its empty or filled with something.  i know that there is the trash plasma widget. just wish a url link to the trash folders icon could change and show if its empty.
[09:51] <Peace-> brenty: trash plasma widget IS an icon
[09:51] <Peace-> so this is a bitching issue
[10:03] <brenty> yeah a url link to trash placed in the desktop folder is a plain link like any other... be nice if the icon changed to reflect empty or full,, i guess i could position the trash widget just right over where i want it :(
[10:05] <Peace-> brenty: plasma widget does that
[10:05] <Peace-> so...
[10:08] <brenty> right but a trash widget placed on top of the desktop folder widget looks sloppy.  a url link to trash in desktop looks nice and fits with the rest of the things there.
[10:09] <Peace-> brenty: get a life
[10:09] <Peace-> an icon sloppy
[10:09] <Peace-> mah
[10:10] <brenty> your right.
[10:12] <brenty> good news is after updates stuff doesnt stick in my task bar when closed. and bluetooth tethering with my blckberry works now..
[10:13] <brenty> apps open and close super fast. and the nintendo emulator fce ultra doesnt skip...
[10:16] <brenty> http://tinypic.com/r/sysdgm/5
[12:16] <uoou> hello, can I get a little help with the beta? I'm doing an apt-get upgrade and getting errors relating to a package called either openssl or libssl1
[12:18] <uoou> in fact, the error seems to be preventing me from installing anything at all
[12:24] <rork> uoou: you can find help for 12.04 beta in #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <uoou> thanks rork
[12:29] <uoou> (sorted it anyway)
[12:49] <TheOneRing_> hi does wubi work on windows8? I want to test it on my tablet
[12:55] <soroush> test
[13:31] <TheOneRing> looks like its working quite nice
[13:33] <TheOneRing> hopefully i get the buildin wlan working, a usb wlan dongle on a tablet is quite unhandy
[13:47] <TheOneRing> now i added the plasma active ppa hm ill need a touch keyboard
[14:17] <gabrielegualco> hi all, i'm in troubles with amd dual graphics on kde. yesterday night color definition changed in bad
[14:19] <gabrielegualco> i tried glxgears for test, but nothing changed, still desktop with few colors
[14:19] <gabrielegualco> anyone can help?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> hi all
[14:38] <corverse> Hello Linux adict
[14:40] <corverse> alskdjf
[14:40] <corverse> hello test mic
[14:40] <BluesKaj> corverse,  do you have a question ?
[14:41] <corverse> yes i have, in fact many questions
[14:41] <BluesKaj> one at a time then
[14:42] <corverse> blueskaj, i wanna know if i can run kubuntu alone without ubuntu? coz right now im using Kubuntu as workspace under ubuntu 11.10.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> kubuntu and ubuntu are defined by their desktop environments and default apps
[14:45] <corverse> so? is it possible?
[14:45] <corverse> anyway, i am a newbie in linux
[14:45] <Sentynel> corverse: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing other than the desktop environment
[14:46] <BluesKaj> in other words kubuntu is based on  ubuntu , but uses a different desktop environment called KDE which in turn uses the kubuntu-desktop as it's default
[14:47] <corverse> okay got it sentynel and blueskaj..thanks 2 u guyz...anyway i love using kubuntu than ubuntu...kubuntu has great features and effects..luv it
[14:49] <BluesKaj> corverse,  good to hear :)
[14:51] <corverse> another thing is, i installed xbmc and i want to update it to its latest version but i don't how and i don't even know what version i had installed...how can i know the version of xbmc?
[14:52] <Sentynel> how did you install xmbc?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> corverse,  open a terminal , apt-cache policy xbmc
[14:52] <Sentynel> assuming it was via the ppa, yes, apt-cache policy
[14:53] <corverse> i found it guyz...its Xbmc 11.0 RC2
[14:53] <Sentynel> to update installed software, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:53] <corverse> yes sentynel...via ppa
[14:55] <corverse> i want to know more about Kubuntu/ubuntu..i have to explore this new OS..i like this compare to windows 7...windows 7 is so boring
[14:56] <BluesKaj> kubuntu has been around for 7-8 yrs , in various stages of development
[14:57] <corverse> guyz please help me with this...why i can't make update on the system?  it says proper authorization was not provided...but in Ubuntu its working fine.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> you have to provide the password after the command
[15:13] <corverse> Blueskaj, there's dialog box asking for password..
[15:13] <corverse> there's no dialog box asking for password
[15:14] <BluesKaj> corverse, using the terminal or package manager ?
[15:15] <corverse> yes the Moun Update Manager, only OK button nothing else
[15:19] <BluesKaj> corverse,  i was referring to the commands for the terminal that Sentynel gave you, above.
[15:19] <savio> can anyone tell me why can't ubuntu have VLC 2.0.1
[15:21] <BluesKaj> corverse,  unfortuntely you have to use the terminal/konsole to update and upgrade in order to bring in the fixes for muon so it runs properly
[15:21] <corverse> so, there's no way to fix this moun package manager?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> savio,  is it available in the repos , if not then it's not ready for default usage
[15:22] <savio> can source will work
[15:23] <savio> BluesKaj: repos only contain vlc 1.1.6 something
[15:23] <BluesKaj> corverse, yes open a terminal, copy and paste this into it, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:24] <corverse> thanks blueskaj
[15:25] <BluesKaj> savio,  vlc 2.0.0.4 works fine here , on 12.04 and kde 4.8.1
[15:25] <savio> BluesKaj: i'm using ubuntu 10.04 with 3.2.6
[15:26] <BluesKaj> vlc, 2.0.0.4 is the source default
[15:26] <savio> BluesKaj: so by installing i think there will no any bug
[15:28] <BluesKaj> savio, which KDE version ?
[15:28] <savio> 4.5.3
[15:28] <BluesKaj> savio,  you should be fine
[15:29] <savio> BluesKaj: i having doubt why this people keep vlc 2.0.1 into repos for ubuntu 10.04
[15:30] <BluesKaj> savio,  don't think it's 2.0.1 , it's robly 2.0.0.1
[15:30] <BluesKaj> probly
[15:31] <BluesKaj> the latest default vlc in the repos is 2.0.0.4 akaik
[15:31] <BluesKaj> as far as I know
[15:32] <savio> no it's 2.0.1
[15:32] <savio> i just download that package
[15:32] <savio> and for ubuntu 10.04 there is only 1.1.6
[15:32] <savio> no more update
[15:33] <savio> mention on vlc site
[15:36] <BluesKaj> savio, open your package manager and chck what the vlc default version is there, not on the vlc site
[15:40] <BluesKaj> to be safe you should run the defsault version that's ion your kubuntu version repository , not a development version that hasn't been tested thoroughly on your distro version
[15:40] <BluesKaj> savio, ^
[15:41] <savio> BluesKaj: what should probably happen if i use other version than repos
[15:41] <BluesKaj> crashes etc
[15:43] <savio> BluesKaj: what you suggest should i try it
[15:45] <BluesKaj> savio,  try 2.0.1 ? That's your call. Don't know why you would want VLC 's  options and functions changes very little from one version to another
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Don't know why you would want to ,..
[15:48] <savio> just for trying something new
[15:50]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[16:21] <TheOneRing> hm I added the plasma active ppa, installed plasma-active and kubuntu-active-settings
[16:21] <TheOneRing> after loging in I see  the new splash screen but then the it looks like plasma active crashes or something like that
[16:22] <TheOneRing> I can only see the aplications started from my kdesession
[16:22] <TheOneRing> hm  and no virtual keyboard
[16:28] <TheOneRing> any ideas?
[16:28] <lordievader> do you still see your panel?
[16:29] <TheOneRing> only a black screen with some applications open
[16:29] <ste_> ciao
[16:29] <TheOneRing> did I miss to install a essential plasma active package?
[16:30] <lordievader> hmm, i had a similair problem earlier today, updated my system and all i got when i logged on was a wallpaper. fixed it by renaming the .kde folder to .kde-old and rebooting.
[16:30] <TheOneRing> hm ok 'll try it
[16:30] <lordievader> this will reset everything... seemed the old settings where not compatible with the update.
[16:30] <ste_> !list
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ste_,  why do you think this is a file sharingh channell, who sent you here?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> sick of these italian guys thinking kubuntu is file sharing
[16:33] <TheOneRing> lordievader: how to get a touch keyboard?
[16:33] <ste_> scusa,ho sbagliato applicazione,facevo multi tasking
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !it
[16:34] <TheOneRing> hm still a black screen after moving .kde
[16:35] <lordievader> TheOneRing: hmm not sure, i want to look it up but it seems my panel crashed...
[16:35] <lordievader> TheOneRing: sorry
[16:37] <TheOneRing> ^^
[16:37] <TheOneRing> at least I can login via ssh now so for updates I can try it withou the usb hub :P
[16:37] <lordievader> TheOneRing: the command for a virtual keyboard is: kvkbd
[16:38] <TheOneRing> hm sounds like I need a usb keyboard to start the virtual :P
[16:38] <lordievader> TheOneRing: or use the ssh
[16:39] <lordievader> TheOneRing: using "export DISPLAY=:0", with that you can launch applications that require a screen.
[16:39] <TheOneRing> ah nice
[16:39] <TheOneRing> good to know
[16:39] <TheOneRing> ok so if plasma active crashed it there a way to start it without calling startactive? something like plasma-desktop?
[16:40] <lordievader> not to my knowlege, but then again i have not used kde all too much... perhaps some one else here knows?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> lordievader, TheOneRing , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469243
[16:51] <TheOneRing> not exactly what I need
[16:51] <TheOneRing> I havend removed any panels
[16:51] <TheOneRing> I just dont have any
[16:52] <lordievader> my setup works quite, eh, well. not as stable as i am used to, but perhaps that is me..
[16:53] <lordievader> TheOneRing: still no fix? have you tried going back to the older version of plasma?
[16:55] <TheOneRing> plasma desktop works
[16:55] <BluesKaj> TheOneRing,  right click on the desktop choose "add panel"
[16:55] <TheOneRing> I have no desktop
[16:55] <TheOneRing> when I login with plasma active
[17:00] <BluesKaj> why this plasma active anyway ..what are the advantages over a normal panel , TheOneRing?
[17:01] <TheOneRing> its a tablet and the normal navigation items dont support touch
[17:02] <TheOneRing> only okular
[17:03] <lordievader> ah so that is why you needed the virtual keyboard. but wait a minute you are running kubuntu on a tablet, nice!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> TheOneRing,  ok, maybe ppl should indicate that a tablet is the device in question . We don't get many questions about them here
[17:05] <licensed> omg! mp3 player suggestion: qmmp!! cool
[17:05] <BluesKaj> but I imagine we will be with the proliferation them on the market
[17:05] <licensed> for audacious fans
[17:06] <TheOneRing> lordievader: I even installed it with wubi on windows8 on the normal windows partition
[17:06] <TheOneRing> because grub doesnt support touch jet I had to do it this way to be able to dual boot
[17:06] <lordievader> TheOneRing: what kind of a tablet is it?
[17:06] <TheOneRing> dell latitude st
[17:07] <TheOneRing> x86
[17:07] <lordievader> looking quite nice, just like a small pc
[17:07] <BluesKaj> no mp3s here licensed ..with the space we have on devices these days, compression isn't really required , but old habits are hard to break :)
[17:08] <licensed> BluesKaj, hahahaha do u use wav or flac?
[17:08] <TheOneRing> just tested https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing/UsingMtview and I really have all the touchpoints,  because of missing win8 drivers its the first time I really have multi touch ;)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> licensed,  wav
[17:08] <licensed> BluesKaj, flac > wav, not?
[17:08] <licensed> BluesKaj, i like mp3.. it's same quality than wav
[17:09] <BluesKaj> flac is lodssles , but it's still a layer of processing
[17:09] <BluesKaj> licensed,  no it is not the same quality as wav
[17:09] <licensed> i use my hd space with important things.. documentary, e-books
[17:09] <licensed> BluesKaj, how can i hear differences about quality?
[17:09] <licensed> i have to buy a good offboard soundcard?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> play a wav file with a lot of instrumentation in it , then listen to the mush it turns into with mp3 compression , especially at rates lower then 256
[17:12] <BluesKaj> than
[17:15] <Sentynel> make sure you don't know which format it's playing though, or your opinions will be influenced by your preconceptions (blind test)
[17:21] <BluesKaj> decent soundcrds , speakers and headphones will show the lack of clarity with mp3 etc ...but even a crappy recording won't sound good no matter how good the equipment
[17:32] <Sentynel> in properly executed blind tests, there's no significant observed difference between uncompressed audio and mp3 or similar codecs above about 192-256kbps, though the exact point it becomes impossible to tell varies between individuals and codecs
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Sentynel,  yeah sure ... not the music tho , right ...gawd ..what a bunch of BS that is ..take a looka t the data loss .. preceptual dpesn't mean the listener is enjoying the music ...it's critical listening
[17:39] <BluesKaj> I'm not against mp3 ..i just think it's no longer necessary , if available I prefer wav , or even analog for that matter
[17:40] <alesan> hi, is it possible to disinstall dolphin?
[17:40] <Sentynel> BluesKaj: test for yourself - take the same files in wav format and encoded, let's say to 320kbps vbr mp3, as you've obviously got good audio kit and good ears, then write a script that plays them at random, without telling you which is which. write down quality comments and whether you think it's mp3 or wav for each one, and then have the script tell you which is which, and tell me how accurate you are
[17:40] <BluesKaj> alesan, not without removing the kubuntu-desktop
[17:44] <BluesKaj> Sentynel,  go ahead be my guest ...i knowall about doube lind listening tests ,they put the lstener into work mode , unable to enjoy the music ..to me those tests lack validity ..the best test would be that the listener doesn't know that it's a test :)
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Sentynel,  write script yourself btw :)
[17:45] <BluesKaj> err double blind
[17:46] <BluesKaj> anyway , time to go shopping for a chainsaw ...now that's gonna be good for the hearing
[17:46] <Sentynel> BluesKaj: how do you propose to collect data without the listener knowing it's a test?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:47] <Sentynel> seems to me that if you can't tell the difference you can't tell the difference, but if you can propose a method for testing that I'm all ears
[17:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You have a court hearing?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> like i said be my guest, Sentynel , write a script
[17:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech,  no the chainsaw is hard on the ears , is what i meant
[17:48] <BluesKaj> later
[17:48] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok that's more reassuring :)
[17:51] <licensed> BluesKaj, Sentynel oh thank you i will to try blind test (with my sister help)
[17:51] <licensed> btw.. qmmp plays your wav files too =D it's great player for audacious fans on kde
[17:51] <licensed> and i'm sorry for my bad english
[17:53] <em> how do i tell which version of kubuntu i have?
[17:54] <Sentynel> em: in terminal, cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:54] <em> thanks
[17:54] <DaSkreech> em: lsb_release -a
[17:56] <em> My friend is having strange problems when he scrolls the window in an application his computer slows down too much.
[17:56] <em> synergizm: ^
[17:56] <synergizm> hey guys im running kubuntu 11.10 and im trying to get drracket running. the software works but whenever im scrolling inside the code xorg's cpu usage jumps to 100% and everything gets laggy. i got a gforce 8600gt if that helps
[17:56] <synergizm> em: :p
[17:56] <em> Does anyone have any ideas ?
[17:59] <DaSkreech> What driver are you using?
[18:00] <synergizm> 173.14.30
[18:01] <DaSkreech> synergizm: That's from nvidia ?
[18:02] <synergizm> yes afaik... it was automaticaly installed from the beginning
[18:02] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[18:04] <synergizm> sorry im rly new to linux... isnt there supposed to be an entry for my videocard in xorg.conf?
[18:05] <DaSkreech> brb. Try turning off Video effects and then see if that affects the scrolling
[18:05] <DaSkreech> synergizm: in general you don't have a xorg.conf but the nvidia drivers will create one for you
[18:05] <em> synergizm: go to system settings > desktop effects and try clicking on 'suspend desktop effects'
[18:06] <synergizm> DaSkreech: yeah but in xorg.conf is nothing about videocard etc... :s
[18:07] <em> synergizm: you installed the propreitary driver for your card?
[18:07] <DaSkreech> afaisk it was always installed
[18:10] <synergizm> em: disabling effects doesnt help
[18:10] <em> DaSkreech: what does the 's' in afaisk mean?
[18:10] <DaSkreech> as far as synergizm knows
[18:10] <em> oh
[18:11] <synergizm> :)
[18:11] <em> propreitary drivers don't come already installed in Kubuntu do they?
[18:11] <em> synergizm: did you check to see if there are propreitary drivers for your card?
[18:11] <DaSkreech> not unless you specify that when you are installing
[18:12] <DaSkreech> bb
[18:12] <synergizm> i was asked if i wanted non opensource software installed
[18:12] <DaSkreech> brb
[18:12] <DaSkreech> and you said yes :)
[18:12] <synergizm> yap ^^
[18:17] <synergizm> damn this sux i need a running drracket for my study
[18:18] <synergizm> looks like i have to boot up win again :/
[18:21] <Sentynel> synergizm: it may just be that racket's drawing library is slow on linux, in which case there's probably not very much you can do, if you're locket into racket
[18:21] <Sentynel> *locked
[18:22] <synergizm> Sentynel: that shouldnt be the case since there are ppl using it without problems
[18:23] <Sentynel> hm
[18:29] <Sentynel> BluesKaj, licensed: I put together a quick listening test script: http://pastebin.com/990jAbKY should be fairly obvious how it works; you might want to change the playcmd at the top; it expects a single shell glob for each file path (e.g. ~/listeningtest/*.mp3) and assumes everything it's been given is really an audio file without checking
[18:29] <em> Sentynel: that's not the problem because I have kubuntu 11.04 (he has 11.10) and I'm also running Drracket. No problems.
[18:30] <Sentynel> em: different graphics cards though?
[18:30] <Sentynel> I'm just downloading racket to test on my system, as I'm on 11.10 with an nvidia card
[18:32] <licensed> Sentynel, hahaha you make this right now?
[18:32] <Sentynel> licensed: yup
[18:32] <licensed> hahaha cool
[18:34] <em> Sentynel: awesome thanks.
[18:34] <licensed> Sentynel, but it's good to test with same song both quality
[18:34] <em> Sentynel: yes we have different cards
[18:34] <licensed> and i didn't have good soundcard.. just motherboard onboard
[18:35] <Sentynel> licensed: well, I'd suggest getting the high quality files, then encoding them into mp3 to compare against, and giving it the relevant paths
[18:35] <Sentynel> rather than using separate files for each
[18:35] <licensed> yes good!
[18:35] <licensed> great idea
[18:36] <synergizm> now i installed it using sh skript and when i start it i get the following error: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:36] <Sentynel> synergizm: my guess is you've installed the 32 bit version on a 64 bit system, and it's trying to link against 64 bit system libraries
[18:38] <synergizm> Sentynel: true but this wasnt the problem before, was it? earlier i used the package manager, didnt get this error and therefore think it installed the 64 bit version
[18:38] <Sentynel> synergizm: the package manager will install the correct packages
[18:40] <Sentynel> synergizm, em: okay, it's the source view in the drracket window that's lagging, right?
[18:40] <synergizm> yap
[18:40] <synergizm> typing sth or scrolling makes my xorg use 100% cpu
[18:41] <synergizm> btw wich one would be the right one for me? http://pre.racket-lang.org/installers/
[18:41] <Sentynel> I doubt installing a non-packaged version will help you
[18:41] <Sentynel> and it's not lagging for me
[18:41] <synergizm> arghhhhh
[18:42] <synergizm> i edited my xorg.conf to get my additional mouse buttons working
[18:42] <synergizm> might that have sth todo with this?
[18:43] <Sentynel> unlikely, but you can test
[18:43] <Sentynel> which gtk style are you using?
[18:43] <Sentynel> (system settings > application appearance > gtk+ appearance)
[18:44] <synergizm> oxygen-gtk
[18:44] <himito> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120324113203AA6WpBJ <- ¿?
[18:44] <Sentynel> hrm
[18:44] <Sentynel> what nvidia driver version? (apt-cache policy nvidia-settings)
[18:45] <synergizm>  Installed: 280.13-0ubuntu2
[18:45] <Sentynel> hmm, okay, there's a difference
[18:45] <Sentynel> I'm on 295.33
[18:46] <synergizm> how do i update it?
[18:46] <synergizm> sorry again for being such a noob :/
[18:46] <savio> my openGL is not working
[18:46] <Sentynel> synergizm: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates add this ppa and update/upgrade
[18:49] <synergizm> Sentynel: If you are uprading from one release to another with this PPA activated, please install the ppa-purge package and use it to downgrade everything in here beforehand. sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates will do it.  More info: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[18:49] <synergizm> hmm? :)
[18:49] <Sentynel> synergizm: when you come to update to 12.04 you'll probably need to run that command before doing the update
[18:50] <synergizm> k so just go ahead then?
[18:50] <Sentynel> yeah
[18:51]  * DasKreech hugs synergizm 
[18:52] <DasKreech> Hmm think that the scandisk is stuck
[18:52] <DasKreech> The entries processed hasn't updated in 10 minutes
[18:52] <synergizm> Sentynel: done now i have to restart x?
[18:52] <Sentynel> synergizm: yes
[18:52] <synergizm> command? :)
[18:53] <Sentynel> restarting the system's the easiest, but you can also log out and then use the restart x option from the dropdown on the login screen
[18:54] <synergizm> allright so brb and thx so far :)
[18:59] <synergizm> Sentynel: Installed: 295.33-0ubuntu1~oneiric~xup1  ...still same lags though :/
[19:00] <Sentynel> gah =/
[19:01] <synergizm> my xorg still looks the same though
[19:02] <DasKreech> what is the output of lsmod ?
[19:02] <synergizm> the whole thing?
[19:04] <DasKreech> yes
[19:04] <DasKreech> !pastebin
[19:05] <synergizm> http://pastebin.com/H9msn964
[19:06] <DasKreech> well yyou are definitely using the official driver
[19:06] <DasKreech> !nvidia
[19:08] <synergizm> damn im kinda thinking it has sth todo with the syntax highlighting
[19:08] <synergizm> okay it doesnt
[19:10] <DasKreech> Guest73563: Don't IRC as root
[19:10] <DasKreech> synergizm: Dont think it does ;) Did you try turning off the desktop effects?
[19:11] <synergizm> u mean with alt+shift+f12? i tried that
[19:11] <DasKreech> ok
[19:17] <synergizm> DasKreech: u think installing gnome and running it there would help?
[19:19] <DasKreech> synergizm: running what?
[19:20] <synergizm> drracket
[19:23] <synergizm> brb
[19:25] <DasKreech> ok
[19:33] <ludlow> anyone alive?
[19:34] <synergizm> well either this works out or i wont be able to boot kubuntu anymore we'll see ^^
[19:35] <ludlow> question: How does one update video card drivers ?
[19:35] <ludlow> I have the nvidia.run package but it requires to be running in a shell environment and now xwindows.
[19:36] <Sentynel> ludlow: you don't want to use nvidia's installers, you'll break things
[19:36] <ludlow> Sentynel, You know a way to update the drivers?
[19:36] <Sentynel> this ppa has updated graphics drivers in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[19:37] <ludlow> Sentynel,  ok I will try.  thanks
[19:38] <ludlow> Sentynel, do you know the ppa address?
[19:38] <synergizm> ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[19:38] <ludlow> Sy thanks
[19:39] <synergizm> look under "adding this ppa to your system
[19:39] <ludlow> synergizm, I did and just clicked on update.
[19:40] <doda1> hi folks
[19:41] <ludlow> only update I got was for savage s3 lol
[19:41] <doda1> when installing kubuntu, i had problems with choosing my country, how can i test it again without installing ?
[19:43] <synergizm> ludlow: first sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates 2nd: sudo apt-get update  3rd: search for nvidia in the package manager und choose update (incaste it sais updateable:
[19:44] <Sentynel> synergizm, ludlow: just do sudo apt-get upgrade rather than opening the package manager on the 3rd step
[19:44] <Sentynel> or possibly dist-upgrade
[19:44] <ludlow> Sentynel, I did that
[19:45] <DasKreech> doda1: what would you like to test?
[19:47] <doda1> DasKreech: the kubuntu installer, the country sellection didn't include macedonia or i couldn't find it
[19:47] <ludlow> whats the serach command for apt-get?
[19:47] <doda1> the closest thing was serbia region
[19:47] <doda1> apt-cache search
[19:48] <Sentynel> ludlow: what ubuntu version are you on?
[19:48] <ludlow> kubuntu
[19:48] <ludlow> 11.10
[19:48] <Sentynel> and you ran sudo apt-get update after adding the ppa?
[19:48] <ludlow> Sentynel, yes
[19:48] <ludlow> yes
[19:49] <Sentynel> were you actually using the nvidia drivers to start with..?
[19:49] <Sentynel> the package is nvidia-current
[19:49] <Sentynel> if it's not offering updates, it's probably not installed to start with
[19:49] <ludlow> I'm not using the nvidia drivers right now. usually in ubuntu it will notify and let you know to upgrade if want to
[19:50] <ludlow> I thimnk I'm using the novueu or whatever they called drivers right now
[19:50] <Sentynel> the program for that is jockey-kde, but it's easier just to install the nvidia-current package (that's all jockey will do)
[19:52] <DasKreech> doda1: Ah Umm well if you have the time you can make a Virtual machine. But just booting up with the CD in the drive should get you the installer again
[19:54] <ludlow> I just did apt-get install nvidia*  :)
[19:54] <ludlow> doh!
[19:55] <doda1> DasKreech: yeah but the as far as i can remember the country selection is after the partitioning
[19:55] <DasKreech> Not as far as I remember
[19:56] <doda1> mhm
[19:56] <doda1> i will try thanks
[19:57] <ludlow> let me reboot to see what damage I did :)
[20:00] <ludlow> perfecto! :)
[20:02] <DasKreech> ludlow: Perfect damage! Excellent!
[20:02] <ludlow> DasKreech,  works fine so far
[20:06] <DasKreech> doda1: Ok :)
[21:08] <lordievader> hey
[21:09] <doda1> hi
[21:10] <lordievader> how are you?
[21:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> not well
[21:11] <lordievader> how come?
[21:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> muon on 12.04
[21:11] <lordievader> a disaster?
[21:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> in fact, all of 12.04 is feeling very very rough edged
[21:12] <Whiskey`Wonka> well, muon is saying 'your package system is broken'
[21:12] <Whiskey`Wonka> it will crash, say it installed some package, but it didnt have time
[21:12] <lordievader> I love those errors.
[21:12] <Whiskey`Wonka> reload it, and oh look package is installed but it doesnt /work/ right
[21:12] <lordievader> and installing it through apt-get?
[21:12] <Whiskey`Wonka> force reinstall the package, and as long as muon doesnt crash again, its ok
[21:13] <Whiskey`Wonka> on this install i have not touched apt-get or aptitude
[21:13] <Whiskey`Wonka> this is a fresh install btw
[21:13] <Whiskey`Wonka> 24 hours old
[21:13] <Whiskey`Wonka> and its poor enough to make me leave kubuntu
[21:14] <lordievader> is 12.04 in beta now btw? I had a ubuntu alpha a few weeks ago, was quite buggy, but then what do you expect...
[21:14] <szal> report bugs, report bugs, report bugs.. that's what pre-releases are for ^^
[21:15] <szal> and discussion in #ubuntu+1 please :)
[21:15] <lordievader> I believe I did in most cases.
[21:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> really whats the point of this channel if not for kubuntu issues?
[21:16] <szal> Whiskey`Wonka: yes, for the officially released versions
[21:17] <Whiskey`Wonka> szal: i see
[21:18] <szal> as of now, that includes 11.10, 11.04, 10.10, 10.04 LTS, and 8.04 LTS (the latter only for server use)
[21:19] <Whiskey`Wonka> huh i thought i read that 12.04 LTS was out, and dl'd the isntaller, crazy me
[21:20] <szal> Whiskey`Wonka: why do you think it says 'Beta' on the tag?
[21:20] <Whiskey`Wonka> szal: casue its release, ahahah
[21:20] <lordievader> April 26th it should be released
[21:21] <szal> 5 days later, and they can rename it to 12.05 :P
[21:22] <DasKreech> Whiskey`Wonka: Muon has an issue that you can work around by updating it through apt-get
[21:22] <lordievader> lol
[21:23] <Whiskey`Wonka> DasKreech: as everyone has been saying, ubuntu+1, and ill do that
[21:23] <DasKreech> Whiskey`Wonka: Yep. Also expect +1 releases to be horribly horribly broken
[21:24] <DasKreech> that way if they boot at all you'll be happy and surprised ^_^
[21:24] <DasKreech> I'd also say don't expect stable releases to actually be stable till 2 weeks on
[21:24] <DasKreech> almost the same as the wait till Sp1 mentatlity in the Windows world
[21:25] <Whiskey`Wonka> DasKreech: yea, im getting that. 9 and 10 were not (quite) that bad
[21:25] <Whiskey`Wonka> 11 and 12 sure are
[21:26] <lordievader> the alpha was quite stable, i figured it would do almost nothing, but it was as i said quite stable
[21:26] <lordievader> sure lots of programs seemed to crash without any reason but hey, it's an alpha.
[21:26] <Whiskey`Wonka> hehe
[21:28] <DasKreech> Whiskey`Wonka: well you are also welcome to stay on 10 releases for another 2 or so years
[21:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> DasKreech: no, im not =)
[21:30] <DasKreech> Whiskey`Wonka: My apologies. You are free to stay on the the 10 releases for another 2 years
[21:31] <Whiskey`Wonka> hahha
[21:38] <DasKreech> :-)_
[21:43] <DasKreech> Hi k0s
[21:45] <ScottyK> I'm currently running Kubuntu 11.10, if I wanted to take the plunge now and install 12.04, how do I trigger the update?
[21:46] <Sentynel> ScottyK: sudo do-release-upgrade -d tells it to update to a development release
[21:46] <ScottyK> Sentynel - Thanks.
[22:11] <Pikos> hi
[22:12] <Pikos> I'd like to turn off samba on my laptop (KUBUNTU) do you know how to?
[22:39] <DasKreech> Pikos: service samba stop
[22:43] <ludlow> yo
[22:52] <DasKreech> ludlow: yo
[23:48] <nancy--> how to know how much bandwidth is used in amazons ec2 cloud. i cant find any docs help or on google  ?
[23:50] <Riddell> nancy--: run byobu
[23:50] <Riddell> you're more likely to get a useful answer in a server support channel, this is a desktop support channel
[23:51] <DasKreech> Riddell,nancy: Didn't quite understand that request?
[23:53] <nancy--> Riddell,  where is the bandwidth stated there.?
[23:55] <Riddell> nancy--: I'm not sure, it has various monitors on the bottom of the screen
[23:55] <Riddell> but ask in a server channel to find out (and let me know I'm curious)
[23:55] <DasKreech> nancy--: try #ubuntu-server
[23:56] <nancy--> none for bandwidth. and whats the last moniter for?
[23:57] <Sentynel> in the panel at the bottom of byobu, the left-most items in the display on the right are ^upbandwidth kbps vdownbandwith kbps (on a pink background)
[23:57] <Sentynel> they only appear if you're currently using measurable amounts of bandwith
[23:58] <Sentynel> if you're after historical/aggregate rather than instantaneous results, the usage reports section of the aws console will tell you