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axisysI appended this end of the `quiet -- ' priority=critical locale=en_US url=http://bit.ly/uinstall. using standard 10.04 lts 64bit image00:00
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axisyshow do I check if it got an IP from busybox?00:02
axisysdmesg shows eth0 is ready 100 full00:02
axisyscat /var/log/syslog gave lots of info00:03
axisysnm00:03
axisysthat bit.ly was redirected to https.. no wonder why it was failing00:13
Smaughey all, to allow the webserver to write a directory, what should I chnage the permissions/ownership/group?  (ie which user is my webserver user - I am using apache2, but it is not obivous from the list of users00:25
bob921Is there a canonical way to manage wireless connections on ubuntu-server, or should I just write a wpa_supplicant.conf and run that on startup?00:28
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bob921Ah, looks like I should use /etc/network/interfaces. Reading manpage now.00:30
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tyleri've got a home server w/wireless using wpasupplicant, but sometimes my network connection goes down03:36
tyleris there some way i can get it automatically reconnected?03:36
tylerthe router itself goes down, i mean03:36
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ehndenvm, i'll use a bash script with crontab03:43
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mumixamanyone know of a way to get the serial #/ID for a harddrive that has failed and the system does not see it anymore?04:47
lifelessshould be on a label on it04:49
mumixamon the disk itself?04:49
mumixamive got disk that has failed, but id like to know which one04:50
mumixamim looking for something to link the /dev name to a serial #04:51
mumixamand i cant check udev becasue the disk is 'desynced'04:51
mumixami guess my best bet it check the neighboring drives serials and compile a list next time at boot04:57
blendedbychrisI halted my do-package-upgrade … can i resume it somehow >.<05:24
blendedbychris?05:24
blendedbychrisor just run the upgrade process from natty ro oneric again05:26
blendedbychristo05:26
taipresdoes lighttpd really have bad memory leaks?06:19
taipresthat they apparently haven't fixed all this time?06:19
uvirtbotNew bug: #963696 in lxc (universe) "ubuntu template should enable security pocket" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96369606:35
hallynjjohansen: aa_change_onexec() still giving me EPERM when aa_change_profile works...08:48
hallyn(just fyi - going to bed.  may file bug later)08:48
hallyneh, what the heck, will file bug now08:49
emptinessI am trying to follow the guide on installing openLDAP on ubuntu server, but when I try and ldapadd the frontend.ldif, I get an error stating "no global superior knowledge" when adding the group entry at the end of the example. anybody experienced this?13:17
emptinessnvm, figured it out13:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #962046 in python-boto "EC2 metadata retrieval fails with spaces in a resource name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96204616:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #962401 in quantum (universe) "quantum-server package description-en typo" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96240117:21
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Sam23947Hi, I have some questions regarding mailserver and SMTP replay. Is this the right place to ask?17:58
ikoniaif you're running it on ubuntu, sure18:01
Sam23947I do. 10.1018:02
JanC10.10 only has 18 months of support, so you can ask questions for one more month...  ;)18:03
Sam23947I'm following this tutorial: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/18:03
JanCbut please go on (your question probably isn't version-dependent)18:03
Sam23947He states: Next you need to decide whether to send all outgoing mail via another SMTP server,18:04
Sam23947# or put it an accessible smtp server relayhost = smtp.yourisp.com18:04
remix_tjok what's the problem?18:04
remix_tj:-)18:04
Sam23947so I came cross this: http://darrynvt.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/setup-sendmail-notifications-for-gmail-smtp/#comment-2818:04
Sam23947and im wondering if i can just put googles SMTP server there and it will work18:05
Sam23947or if there is a better solution18:05
Sam23947caus eim worried about spamfilters since the mailserver is for a onlinestore18:05
JanCSam23947: is this a server at home or a server/VPS hosted somewhere?18:05
Sam23947VPS18:06
remix_tjdo you really need a relayhost?18:06
JanCthen you can send mail yourself18:06
JanCthe relayhost is often needed when you are on DSL or cable because ISPs tend to block outgoing SMTP traffic...18:06
Sam23947idk, i have no experince with mail servers. I basicaly need an mailadress with my domain name from which i can send and receive mails and they should not get caught uop by spamfilters18:07
Sam23947mails send via sendmail all land in smpamfolder atm18:09
JanCSam23947: I have a VPS and use no relayhost and (except for, very exceptionally, some stupid mailmasters that don't know the SMTP specs) my mail never gets blocked18:09
JanCSam23947: land in who's spamfolder?18:10
Sam23947receipient18:10
Sam23947hotmail, gmail, yahoomail, etc18:11
JanCSam23947: all recipients using 1 mail provider, or using multiple?18:11
JanCheh18:11
JanCSam23947: does the "from:"-domain have any restrictions about what mailserver mails can originate?18:13
Sam23947not that im aware of18:13
Sam23947as he writes: "Sending email directly from the MTA (mail transfer agent) on one’s server is now considered to be faux pas. Unless you’ve got that machine configured within DNS (MX record, reverse lookup, etc), it’d likely fail most basic spam checks at the destination mail server. "18:14
seekwillSam23947: You should outsource that18:14
JanCeh18:14
JanCseekwill: why?18:14
Sam23947crossed my mind18:14
seekwillBecause email is serious business these days, with the amount of spam and abuse out there18:15
seekwillIt's not the same as any other service18:15
seekwill(http, etc)18:15
JanCSam23947: configuring MX records is a good idea, of course, otherwise you won't be able to receive mail back...18:15
Sam23947how much would u estimate for setting it up if i use one of those freelancer sites?18:15
emptinesssomeone familiar with scrambled samba SID in phpldapadmin?18:16
seekwill"Sending email directly from the MTA (mail transfer agent) on one’s server is now considered to be faux pas" <-- doesn't make sense18:16
JanCseekwill: I admin a couple of servers in my free time, and even without a fancy config mail still works the same as 10 years ago...18:16
emptiness(not scrambled, but showing code instead of the SID digits)18:16
seekwillJanC: ok :)18:16
JanCseekwill: of course if you want to do fancy things, you need to configure it correctly (but that was true in 2000 too)18:17
Sam23947only want to send and receive mails without getting caught in spam, ont know if thats fancy but its certainly all rather confusing for a noob like me, so idk if i should continue frustrating myself another few days with this or outsource it18:18
seekwillManaging a mail server is difficult, and for most people, better to be outsourced. Google Apps does it for free/cheap18:18
JanCsomething that is true: if you send mail from your own server, make sure random people can't send mail that way18:18
seekwillSam23947: Managing a mailserver is not a "setup and forget" service18:19
JanCe.g.: don't allow forum memebers to contact each other via mail  :P18:19
Sam23947so what do you recon?18:19
JanC(via a mail form)18:19
JanCSam23947: if you only want to send mail for specific purposes, I would just use local postfix18:20
JanCsite-specific18:20
seekwillSam23947: Google Apps hosts mail for free. Rackspace charges $2/month or something. That's usually a better solution :)18:21
Sam23947its for a webstore, order confirmations and support emails are the primary reason18:21
seekwillSam23947: I would highly recommend outsourcing email then, since it is obviously important in your use case. If you don't outsource, you'll want to read up and study about how email works.18:22
JanCSam23947: I won't expect too much problems with handling it yourself then, but if you don't want to learn/handle mail-specific issues, outsourcing is an option, of course18:22
jjohansenhallyn: yeah sorry, there was a build failure (sorted out post freeze) on the beta2 upload and a revert and some patches didn't make it in.  There will be another upload as soon as the freeze lifts18:23
JanCI won't recommend Google though (seen too much stupidity over there already :P )18:23
seekwillIf this is for a business, something like sendgrid is probably what you want18:24
Sam23947ok thank you guys, been very helpful. I'll chk out sendgrid18:25
JanCit's possible that the VPS hosting company has its own mail solutions too18:26
Sam23947they dont18:26
helpme555hello all18:26
helpme555how I can chnage folder permission (exp: chwon command) and that permission should be also for the new files add in the future18:29
blendedbychriscan one go from release to lts?19:32
blendedbychrisi just need some new packages real quick and was going to upgrade my current lts to "normal" for until lts is released19:32
pmatulisblendedbychris: you mean upgrade from a non-lts to an lts?19:32
blendedbychrisyea say i was on ocelot or something19:33
blendedbychrisoneric19:33
blendedbychrishangin out there until lts 12 is released19:33
pmatulisblendedbychris: not quite sure what you're saying.  you want to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 (under development)?19:34
blendedbychrisyea but upgraded 11.10 to 12.04 once it's stable19:35
blendedbychrisupgrade*19:35
blendedbychrisany reason why i couldn't do that?19:35
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pmatulisblendedbychris: just wait until 12.04 is released, then upgrade19:35
blendedbychrisi need a package in 11.10 heh19:36
blendedbychrisis going from 11.10 to 12.04 lts a supported upgrade path19:36
blendedbychris?19:36
pmatulisblendedbychris: what do you mean by 'supported'?19:37
pmatulisblendedbychris: whether it is supposed to work properly?19:37
blendedbychrisyes?19:37
pmatulisblendedbychris: sure19:37
hggdhyes, it is: Lucid -> Precise and Oneiric -> Precise are supported19:37
blendedbychrisokie doke thanks19:38
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blendedbychrisif i'm upgraded from lucid to maverick and get "While scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the upgrade was found. This can happen if you run a internal mirror or if the mirror information is out of date."19:49
blendedbychrisi'm using a mirror… but should i just put the ubuntu repos in my sources.list?19:49
blendedbychrisofficial*19:49
hggdhyou can. Or you can update your mirrors ;-)19:59
hallynjjohansen: stgraber: the re-push of apparmor upload is a prereq (well, sort of, there *is* a workaround, but...) for fixing the edubuntu builds20:53
hallynjjohansen: stgraber: so should the apparmor upload happen now (before freeze lifts)?20:54
socializerhello20:54
hallynif need be, i guess i can just mount proc myself in the code and do the proper fix after freeze...20:54
socializercan someone get me a link to the install instructions for jircii install instructions20:55
hallynjircii?  sorry not heard of it20:56
stgraberhallyn: if jjohansen can get a fixed apparmor uploaded on Monday, we should be fine for beta2. If later then it'll become a problem as it affects all images and requires re-testing of all of them21:01
stgraber(we're currently frozen but we don't have a beta2-candidate yet, so bugfixes uploaded until then should be allowed through pretty easily as long as they look sane)21:01
hallynstgraber: if I manually mount /proc, should I then umount it, or do your containers not care?21:13
stgraberhallyn: the current code should work either way. I think it'd be best not to have people expect /proc to be mounted for them though21:17
hallynok i'll umount it if i mounted it, thanks21:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #964164 in txaws (universe) "Need manpages for installed binaries" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96416421:41
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nancy--how to know how much bandwidth is used in amazons ec2 cloud. i cant find any docs help or on google  ?23:48
Martynnancy-- : ??23:55
Martynnancy-- : Your usage report is in your AWS user section23:55
Martynnancy-- : Although if you want to gather other statistics, you're going to need to manage MRTG or Cactus yourself, and monitor each host23:56
nancy--Martyn,  are they free?23:57
nancy-- how to get them?23:57
Martynnancy--: Ah, you don't have much experience with this I take it then...23:58
Martynnancy--: The tools you need are free (both beer and speech)23:58
Martynbut installing and setting them up isn't purely trivial ...23:59
Martynwhat kind of information are you looking for?23:59
MartynBecause your -total- aggregate used bandwidth is trivially found in the Amazon Web Services console, under your account23:59

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