| jalcine | For the curious: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fedora-16-gnome-3-review,3155-28.html | 03:11 |
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| snadge | umm.. the latest 5.8 update or whatever.. is that known to be broken? | 07:52 |
| snadge | i get a desktop with icons on it | 08:00 |
| snadge | but no launcher or panel.. and i cant click on anything | 08:00 |
| snadge | so im drinking moonshine to cope with the pain | 08:00 |
| snadge | naw not really im using unity2d ;) | 08:01 |
| MCR1 | Hi. Since the last Compiz update I am experiencing mad flickering all the time on my Intel GMA HD4500. Is there a workaround for this already ? | 09:49 |
| MCR1 | I tried disabling all additional plugins - no effect. | 09:49 |
| MCR1 | I tried changing workaround options, turning all of them on and off - no effect. | 09:50 |
| MCR1 | I purged xorg edgers PPA (although I am on Intel and it never made problems) - no effect. | 09:50 |
| MCR1 | Unity 5.8 now starts again here at least, but with that flickering it is impossible to do anything productive or passive (I could listen to music without problems though :P) | 09:53 |
| MCR1 | it looks like every redraw anywhere on screen causes Compiz to clear and redraw the whole screen, so if I close everything the flickering will be triggered each second, because of the clock which updates :-/ | 09:55 |
| MCR1 | removing Unity and starting just with Compiz does not make the flicker disappear, so I am quite sure the problem has something to do with the last Compiz update on Precise 12.04. | 09:57 |
| MCR1 | Anyone here who can help with that ^^ ? | 10:28 |
| MCR1 | It is getting really annoying ;) - need new eyes soon :P | 10:29 |
| MCR1 | I cannot file a compiz bug with "ubuntu-bug compiz" ? | 10:29 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, ping | 11:43 |
| mhr3 | pong | 11:44 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, how are you? | 11:44 |
| mhr3 | hungry :) | 11:44 |
| njin | hello, have you tracked the unity bug of tody's update ? | 11:44 |
| mhr3 | and just woke up :P | 11:45 |
| davidcalle | Hehe :P there is an issue with the rb scope, a fresh install creates album art in a place we are not looking at. | 11:45 |
| mhr3 | oh, where is that? | 11:46 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, it's some weird tdb database, here is the Python to extract the right file names http://paste.ubuntu.com/897693/ | 11:46 |
| njin | bug 963815 | 11:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 963815 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Session don't start after update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/963815 | 11:47 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, really dirty, but it works, I couldn't find my way inside this db so I kind of bruteforced it | 11:47 |
| mhr3 | i've never seen such db | 11:48 |
| mhr3 | dunno what parses it | 11:48 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, me neither, and there is very few doc about it | 11:49 |
| mhr3 | davidcalle, maybe it would be easier to patch rb to fallback to the old methods? | 11:50 |
| mhr3 | this is pretty crazy, it has like 5 different methods of doing it | 11:51 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, hmm the "easy" way would be to translate my dirty hack into 5 lines of Vala :P But yeah... Patching rb... :/ | 11:52 |
| mhr3 | as i said i have no idea what parses such db, whether it has vala bindings etc... so can't really help | 11:58 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, Ok, anyway I'll try to find someone who knows about it, here is what the db looks like inside : http://paste.ubuntu.com/897714/ the file name is in the value, between "tfile" and "ssrctype" | 12:03 |
| mhr3 | clearly the rb people will know something about it | 12:04 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, yeah... On the other hand, a simple cat also makes the db parsable (with a lot of garbage, but the values are here). | 12:06 |
| * mhr3 pretends he didn't see that last line :P | 12:07 | |
| davidcalle | mhr3, yeah, lets cat the db... 0 :-) | 12:10 |
| davidcalle | Anyway, I got to go, it's sunny and I'm going for a picnic, have a nice day ;-) | 12:11 |
| MCR1 | Submitted a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/963872 | 12:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 963872 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Precise 12.04: experiencing mad flickering after the most recent Compiz update to version 0.9.7.2" [Undecided,New] | 12:55 |
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| njin | hggdh hello are you i ? | 16:07 |
| njin | in? | 16:07 |
| hggdh | njin: yes, I am, for the moment | 16:07 |
| njin | hggdh, great help me with bug 962949 what is ? | 16:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 962949 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Buttons on the right in live session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/962949 | 16:08 |
| njin | hggdh don't look at the testcase, now it cames at the first boot of a fresh live session | 16:09 |
| njin | comes | 16:09 |
| hggdh | njin: I have no clue. But I think this is, then, unity 5.8, and there are reports of weird behaviour on it | 16:10 |
| njin | hggdh, ok I assign to unity then ? | 16:10 |
| hggdh | I think compiz is also good now | 16:12 |
| njin | ok thanks a lot | 16:12 |
| hggdh | welcome | 16:12 |
| lvillani | Hi, is anyone else having problems with unity-lens-applications since the update to 5.8.0-0ubuntu1 (precise)? | 18:11 |
| lvillani | In particular, nothing is showing up in the dash. Indeed the only thing that seems to work is alt+f2 so I may as well have some other issue... | 18:12 |
| cjohnston | lvillani: I have the same issue | 20:39 |
| cjohnston | I was just coming in here to ask | 20:39 |
| cjohnston | It is the weekend, so there may not be anyone around tho | 20:39 |
| lvillani | glad I'm not alone, then | 20:40 |
| cjohnston | lvillani: I havent looked for a bug, but if you will file one I'll mark it confirmed | 20:41 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, did you have problems with appmenus not working and the wrong font being used throughout the desktop, too? | 20:42 |
| lvillani | had to nuke ~/.gconf ~/.gnome2* and ~/.config/dconf to "restore" the desktop | 20:43 |
| cjohnston | not that I'm aware of | 20:43 |
| lvillani | not sure if these are related but happened in the timeframe I updated unity | 20:43 |
| lvillani | bad luck, I'm gettings timeout errors on bugs.launchpad.net | 20:46 |
| cjohnston | I was a bit ago on lp too | 20:46 |
| lvillani | Reporting bug. | 20:51 |
| lvillani | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/964146 | 20:58 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 964146 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "Application lens is empty since the update to 5.8.0" [Undecided,New] | 20:58 |
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| lvillani | cjohnston, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/964146 | 21:24 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 964146 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "Application lens is empty since the update to 5.8.0" [Undecided,New] | 21:24 |
| cjohnston | ty lvillani | 21:26 |
| mhr3 | lvillani, did you try logging out and back in? | 21:29 |
| lvillani | mhr3, yes, but I can try again if you wish | 21:31 |
| mhr3 | you have strangely few lenses | 21:31 |
| lvillani | yes, I only have unity-lens-applications installed | 21:31 |
| lvillani | (don't ask me why, it's a long story :-)) | 21:34 |
| lvillani | oh, hey, maybe i found what the issue is | 21:35 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, do you have zeitgeist installed? | 21:35 |
| cjohnston | yes | 21:37 |
| cjohnston | zeitgeist kills my laptop daily.. mem goes up to > 50% | 21:37 |
| lvillani | mhh, interesting, I hadn't it installed but found references of it in the lens source code | 21:38 |
| lvillani | so, I installed it, ran setsid unity and boom, it works | 21:38 |
| lvillani | I have no idea what "fixed" it, though | 21:42 |
| cjohnston | hrm.. I wonder if the mem issue is why mine breaks | 21:43 |
| jo-erlend_ | no doubt, Unity 5.8 is the most buggy version in a _long_ while. Both of them :) | 21:45 |
| jo-erlend_ | I can't see anything :) | 21:47 |
| jo-erlend_ | http://ubuntuone.com/1W7Br7jVWwI1nvbbktRLhI | 21:47 |
| jo-erlend_ | brb | 21:49 |
| lvillani | yup, it's definitely zeitgeist | 21:49 |
| ccooke | Damn. Internet connection is playing up, so it's going to take ages to update to see if the bug I'm observing is current. | 21:50 |
| lvillani | Looks like either unity or unity-lens-applications is lacking a package dependency on zeitgeist | 21:51 |
| lvillani | aha, here it is: on my system I have soft-dependency installation disabled | 21:54 |
| lvillani | so: unity-lens-applications depends on libzeitgeist which /recommends/ zeitgeist-core OR zeitgeist | 21:55 |
| lvillani | which isn't being installed on my system | 21:55 |
| lvillani | since the zeitgeist daemon is not running (not installed) the lens doesn't work. | 21:55 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, are zeitgeist-daemon and zeitgeist-fts running on your system? | 21:59 |
| cjohnston | I see zeitgeist-datah | 22:01 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, no -daemon or -fts? | 22:02 |
| cjohnston | I don't see it in top, but at the same time it scrolls off the screen | 22:05 |
| cjohnston | is there another way to check? | 22:05 |
| lvillani | ps aux | grep zeitgeist | 22:05 |
| cjohnston | chris 1852 0.0 0.0 400160 3956 ? Sl 16:00 0:00 zeitgeist-datahub | 22:06 |
| cjohnston | chris 3167 0.0 0.0 9380 888 pts/1 S+ 18:06 0:00 grep --color=auto zeitgeist | 22:06 |
| lvillani | what about | 22:06 |
| lvillani | apt-cache policy zeitgeist-core | grep 'Installed' | 22:06 |
| cjohnston | Installed: 0.8.99~beta1-1 | 22:07 |
| lvillani | mhh, so, it is installed but it's not running (AFAIK) | 22:07 |
| lvillani | hold on, let me try something... | 22:09 |
| cjohnston | fwiw, this is on two machines for me | 22:09 |
| lvillani | kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/lib/unity-lens-applications/unity-applications-daemon` | 22:10 |
| lvillani | then, try to open the dash and write something, it should spawn a new unity-applications-daemon | 22:11 |
| lvillani | on my system it spawn a new zeitgeist-daemon too | 22:11 |
| lvillani | *spawns | 22:11 |
| lvillani | (if it's not running) | 22:12 |
| cjohnston | still no results | 22:13 |
| lvillani | mhhh | 22:14 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, maybe you could try to delete/move ~/.local/share/zeitgeist | 22:15 |
| lvillani | then make sure that no zeitgeist background process is running | 22:15 |
| lvillani | and killing unity-applications-daemon again | 22:15 |
| lvillani | the writing something in the dash, in my experience this brings unity-applications-daemon back, which in turn *should* start the zeitgeist daemons. | 22:16 |
| cjohnston | workaround | 22:16 |
| lvillani | ? | 22:17 |
| cjohnston | that worked.. | 22:17 |
| cjohnston | so we have a workaround | 22:17 |
| lvillani | yep | 22:17 |
| lvillani | in my case the zeitgeist daemon wasn't running at all | 22:17 |
| lvillani | in your case it wasn't running, probably due to a corrupt database. | 22:18 |
| lvillani | i.e.: it was unable to start | 22:18 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, now you could try to move your old zeitgeist data back, killing and restarting the daemons and check ~/.xsession-errors | 22:19 |
| lvillani | but this is a blind guess, I have *no* idea where zeitgeist writes its log files... | 22:19 |
| cjohnston | oddly enough, after moving it back, and killing it | 22:20 |
| cjohnston | it still works | 22:20 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, did you also kill the zeitgeist daemons? | 22:22 |
| cjohnston | yup | 22:23 |
| cjohnston | wait.. i used the kill command above | 22:23 |
| lvillani | ah, so you killed unity-applications-daemon only | 22:23 |
| cjohnston | I marked the bug high based upon: Renders essential features or functionality of the application or dependencies broken or ineffective and Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users (estimated) | 22:23 |
| lvillani | let's try this | 22:24 |
| lvillani | kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon` | 22:24 |
| lvillani | kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/lib/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-fts` | 22:24 |
| lvillani | (I don't know the command for zeitgeist-datahub, I don't have it installed) | 22:25 |
| lvillani | kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/lib/unity-lens-applications/unity-applications-daemon` | 22:25 |
| lvillani | then move your backup copy of the zeitgeist database back to its place | 22:25 |
| lvillani | then let unity restart unity-applications-daemon | 22:25 |
| cjohnston | now it doesnt work | 22:27 |
| lvillani | if it doesn't work again, then I think it is safe to assume that you have a corrupted database which prevents zeitgeist-daemon to start | 22:27 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, I think you should file a separate bug report for that and attach a copy of your zeitgeist database (provided it does not contain sensitive information) | 22:27 |
| lvillani | since our issues are different | 22:27 |
| cjohnston | ** WARNING **: zeitgeist-datahub.vala:224: Unable to get name "org.gnome.zeitgeist.datahub" on the bus! | 22:28 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, that shouldn't be a problem (I think), since you didn't kill zeitgeist-datahub before, either | 22:28 |
| mhr3 | cjohnston, so you kept a backup of your db and if you use that zg doesn't start? | 22:31 |
| cjohnston | correct | 22:31 |
| * mhr3 is zg upstream and would like to know what's going on here | 22:31 | |
| mhr3 | any errors from zeitgeist-daemon ? | 22:32 |
| cjohnston | mhr3: yes | 22:32 |
| cjohnston | where would I look mhr3 | 22:32 |
| mhr3 | just run `zeitgeist-daemon --replace --log-level=debug` | 22:33 |
| cjohnston | [22:34:19.790262 DEBUG] utils.vala:58: DATA_PATH = /home/chris/.local/share/zeitgeist | 22:34 |
| cjohnston | [22:34:19.790351 DEBUG] utils.vala:77: DATABASE_FILE_PATH = /home/chris/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite | 22:34 |
| mhr3 | pastebin is your friend | 22:35 |
| lvillani | (: | 22:35 |
| cjohnston | its only two lines | 22:35 |
| mhr3 | oh? | 22:35 |
| cjohnston | ya.. thats all I got | 22:35 |
| mhr3 | wtf | 22:35 |
| mhr3 | so it seems like it hangs trying to open the db | 22:36 |
| mhr3 | your db must be "interesting" | 22:36 |
| mhr3 | how big is it? | 22:37 |
| cjohnston | mhr3: since your in the know on zg.. are you aware of any issues where zg runs away with all of my ram? | 22:37 |
| mhr3 | zg doesn't, fts does | 22:37 |
| mhr3 | cjohnston, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/928324 ? | 22:38 |
| ubot5 | Error: ubuntu bug 928324 not found | 22:38 |
| cjohnston | is there a bug on that? | 22:38 |
| cjohnston | must be private | 22:38 |
| cjohnston | 1 sec | 22:38 |
| mhr3 | oh.. right | 22:38 |
| mhr3 | sorry | 22:38 |
| cjohnston | mhr3: I just got unity-lens-video crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon exited with status 1 | 22:38 |
| cjohnston | mhr3: yes... I don't know though that its fts.. I just kill the pid and move on | 22:39 |
| mhr3 | oh so it at least return an error code | 22:39 |
| cjohnston | because it makes my system inoperable | 22:39 |
| cjohnston | i got a ubuntu-bug popup and it wants me to report a bug in LP | 22:39 |
| cjohnston | but its against unity-lens-video | 22:39 |
| mhr3 | cjohnston, well if zg itself is using lots of mem than something is terribly wrong, it should be around ~5 mb all the time | 22:40 |
| mhr3 | fts on the other hand has a xapian index, and that has some memory issues apparently :( | 22:40 |
| cjohnston | ill have to look into it mhr3 next time it happens | 22:41 |
| cjohnston | I normally am stuck having to ssh in to kill the pid | 22:41 |
| mhr3 | but the error code is interesting | 22:41 |
| cjohnston | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-video/+bug/964201 | 22:41 |
| ubot5 | Error: ubuntu bug 964201 not found | 22:42 |
| cjohnston | its private | 22:42 |
| mhr3 | wow, it must be super-private, i can't see it :P | 22:43 |
| cjohnston | probably because its against ubuntu.. I'm bug control or whatever its called, so i can see alot of stuff | 22:49 |
| cjohnston | if i subscribe you would that let you ahve access? | 22:49 |
| cjohnston | 7 | 22:49 |
| cjohnston | uggh | 22:49 |
| mhr3 | yea, i'm bug-control too :) | 22:50 |
| mhr3 | clearly that's not enough :) | 22:51 |
| mhr3 | ok now it worked | 22:51 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, can you lower the importance of bug 964146 ? | 22:51 |
| cjohnston | g2g.. dinner.. bbiaf | 22:51 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 964146 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "[workaround] Application lens is empty since the update to 5.8.0" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964146 | 22:52 |
| cjohnston | to? | 22:52 |
| lvillani | it shouldn't happen on a default installation since weak-dependencies are installed by APT by default, IIRC | 22:52 |
| cjohnston | bbiaf, dinner | 22:52 |
| mhr3 | sadly there's nothing interesting there, no logs :( | 22:52 |
| lvillani | cjohnston, don't know.. "Normal", maybe or even low | 22:52 |
| lvillani | I think it's pretty uncommon to disable installation of weak dependencies | 22:53 |
| * lvillani is a control freak... | 22:53 | |
| mhr3 | cjohnston, any chance you could open a bug against zeitgeist with your activity.sqlite from the backup that causes the problem? | 22:55 |
| cjohnston | mhr3: lp.net/zeitgeist? | 23:06 |
| cjohnston | do you mind looking through it real quick and then letting me remove ie? | 23:18 |
| cjohnston | uggh | 23:18 |
| mhr3 | cjohnston, holy crap, that's huge | 23:28 |
| mhr3 | cjohnston, are you using u1 a lot? | 23:28 |
| cjohnston | i was | 23:28 |
| cjohnston | i moved most of my stuff off of it | 23:28 |
| mhr3 | i think the u1 dataprovider is kinda screwed up, but let me look at it first | 23:29 |
| cjohnston | I blame Aq | 23:32 |
| mhr3 | 50% of the uris in there are uids from u1 :( | 23:33 |
| mhr3 | it shouldn't log those at all | 23:33 |
| cjohnston | is that how it tells if they are in sync or not? | 23:34 |
| * davidcalle wakes up | 23:38 | |
| davidcalle | Video lens bug, hmm, did I screw up something? | 23:38 |
| davidcalle | Oh, nope :) | 23:39 |
| cjohnston | davidcalle: ty very much for fixing my video lens bug | 23:40 |
| davidcalle | cjohnston, which one? | 23:40 |
| cjohnston | Chris's Stuff | 23:41 |
| cjohnston | the ' causing errors | 23:41 |
| davidcalle | cjohnston, oh right :) It was me being silly. | 23:42 |
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| cjohnston | your sillyness caused me headaches :-P | 23:43 |
| davidcalle | Hehe | 23:43 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, is "Zeitgeist not installed" really a use case that lenses should support? What do the other lenses do, stay silent? | 23:45 |
| mhr3 | davidcalle, they dont really work in that case... which is a bug obviously :) | 23:46 |
| mhr3 | bug in a library though... lenses will work once that is fixed | 23:47 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, why doesn't Zeitgeist have a hard dependency on Unity, by the way? | 23:48 |
| Daekdroom | Isn't that the other way around? | 23:48 |
| davidcalle | Right :) | 23:48 |
| mhr3 | well, i dont have strong opinion either way | 23:49 |
| mhr3 | once i fix the bug in the library i'll be happy | 23:50 |
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| mhr3 | cjohnston, btw feel free to remove it | 23:58 |
| cjohnston | ty | 23:58 |
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