[03:11] For the curious: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fedora-16-gnome-3-review,3155-28.html === jalcine is now known as Guest87532 === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [07:52] umm.. the latest 5.8 update or whatever.. is that known to be broken? [08:00] i get a desktop with icons on it [08:00] but no launcher or panel.. and i cant click on anything [08:00] so im drinking moonshine to cope with the pain [08:01] naw not really im using unity2d ;) [09:49] Hi. Since the last Compiz update I am experiencing mad flickering all the time on my Intel GMA HD4500. Is there a workaround for this already ? [09:49] I tried disabling all additional plugins - no effect. [09:50] I tried changing workaround options, turning all of them on and off - no effect. [09:50] I purged xorg edgers PPA (although I am on Intel and it never made problems) - no effect. [09:53] Unity 5.8 now starts again here at least, but with that flickering it is impossible to do anything productive or passive (I could listen to music without problems though :P) [09:55] it looks like every redraw anywhere on screen causes Compiz to clear and redraw the whole screen, so if I close everything the flickering will be triggered each second, because of the clock which updates :-/ [09:57] removing Unity and starting just with Compiz does not make the flicker disappear, so I am quite sure the problem has something to do with the last Compiz update on Precise 12.04. [10:28] Anyone here who can help with that ^^ ? [10:29] It is getting really annoying ;) - need new eyes soon :P [10:29] I cannot file a compiz bug with "ubuntu-bug compiz" ? [11:43] mhr3, ping [11:44] pong [11:44] mhr3, how are you? [11:44] hungry :) [11:44] hello, have you tracked the unity bug of tody's update ? [11:45] and just woke up :P [11:45] Hehe :P there is an issue with the rb scope, a fresh install creates album art in a place we are not looking at. [11:46] oh, where is that? [11:46] mhr3, it's some weird tdb database, here is the Python to extract the right file names http://paste.ubuntu.com/897693/ [11:47] bug 963815 [11:47] Launchpad bug 963815 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Session don't start after update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/963815 [11:47] mhr3, really dirty, but it works, I couldn't find my way inside this db so I kind of bruteforced it [11:48] i've never seen such db [11:48] dunno what parses it [11:49] mhr3, me neither, and there is very few doc about it [11:50] davidcalle, maybe it would be easier to patch rb to fallback to the old methods? [11:51] this is pretty crazy, it has like 5 different methods of doing it [11:52] mhr3, hmm the "easy" way would be to translate my dirty hack into 5 lines of Vala :P But yeah... Patching rb... :/ [11:58] as i said i have no idea what parses such db, whether it has vala bindings etc... so can't really help [12:03] mhr3, Ok, anyway I'll try to find someone who knows about it, here is what the db looks like inside : http://paste.ubuntu.com/897714/ the file name is in the value, between "tfile" and "ssrctype" [12:04] clearly the rb people will know something about it [12:06] mhr3, yeah... On the other hand, a simple cat also makes the db parsable (with a lot of garbage, but the values are here). [12:07] * mhr3 pretends he didn't see that last line :P [12:10] mhr3, yeah, lets cat the db... 0 :-) [12:11] Anyway, I got to go, it's sunny and I'm going for a picnic, have a nice day ;-) [12:55] Submitted a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/963872 [12:55] Ubuntu bug 963872 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Precise 12.04: experiencing mad flickering after the most recent Compiz update to version 0.9.7.2" [Undecided,New] === yofel_ is now known as yofel === absolutezero is now known as Guest31726 [16:07] hggdh hello are you i ? [16:07] in? [16:07] njin: yes, I am, for the moment [16:08] hggdh, great help me with bug 962949 what is ? [16:08] Launchpad bug 962949 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Buttons on the right in live session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/962949 [16:09] hggdh don't look at the testcase, now it cames at the first boot of a fresh live session [16:09] comes [16:10] njin: I have no clue. But I think this is, then, unity 5.8, and there are reports of weird behaviour on it [16:10] hggdh, ok I assign to unity then ? [16:12] I think compiz is also good now [16:12] ok thanks a lot [16:12] welcome [18:11] Hi, is anyone else having problems with unity-lens-applications since the update to 5.8.0-0ubuntu1 (precise)? [18:12] In particular, nothing is showing up in the dash. Indeed the only thing that seems to work is alt+f2 so I may as well have some other issue... [20:39] lvillani: I have the same issue [20:39] I was just coming in here to ask [20:39] It is the weekend, so there may not be anyone around tho [20:40] glad I'm not alone, then [20:41] lvillani: I havent looked for a bug, but if you will file one I'll mark it confirmed [20:42] cjohnston, did you have problems with appmenus not working and the wrong font being used throughout the desktop, too? [20:43] had to nuke ~/.gconf ~/.gnome2* and ~/.config/dconf to "restore" the desktop [20:43] not that I'm aware of [20:43] not sure if these are related but happened in the timeframe I updated unity [20:46] bad luck, I'm gettings timeout errors on bugs.launchpad.net [20:46] I was a bit ago on lp too [20:51] Reporting bug. [20:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/964146 [20:58] Ubuntu bug 964146 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "Application lens is empty since the update to 5.8.0" [Undecided,New] === me4oslav_ is now known as 17SAAUHJF [21:24] cjohnston, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/964146 [21:24] Ubuntu bug 964146 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "Application lens is empty since the update to 5.8.0" [Undecided,New] [21:26] ty lvillani [21:29] lvillani, did you try logging out and back in? [21:31] mhr3, yes, but I can try again if you wish [21:31] you have strangely few lenses [21:31] yes, I only have unity-lens-applications installed [21:34] (don't ask me why, it's a long story :-)) [21:35] oh, hey, maybe i found what the issue is [21:35] cjohnston, do you have zeitgeist installed? [21:37] yes [21:37] zeitgeist kills my laptop daily.. mem goes up to > 50% [21:38] mhh, interesting, I hadn't it installed but found references of it in the lens source code [21:38] so, I installed it, ran setsid unity and boom, it works [21:42] I have no idea what "fixed" it, though [21:43] hrm.. I wonder if the mem issue is why mine breaks [21:45] no doubt, Unity 5.8 is the most buggy version in a _long_ while. Both of them :) [21:47] I can't see anything :) [21:47] http://ubuntuone.com/1W7Br7jVWwI1nvbbktRLhI [21:49] brb [21:49] yup, it's definitely zeitgeist [21:50] Damn. Internet connection is playing up, so it's going to take ages to update to see if the bug I'm observing is current. [21:51] Looks like either unity or unity-lens-applications is lacking a package dependency on zeitgeist [21:54] aha, here it is: on my system I have soft-dependency installation disabled [21:55] so: unity-lens-applications depends on libzeitgeist which /recommends/ zeitgeist-core OR zeitgeist [21:55] which isn't being installed on my system [21:55] since the zeitgeist daemon is not running (not installed) the lens doesn't work. [21:59] cjohnston, are zeitgeist-daemon and zeitgeist-fts running on your system? [22:01] I see zeitgeist-datah [22:02] cjohnston, no -daemon or -fts? [22:05] I don't see it in top, but at the same time it scrolls off the screen [22:05] is there another way to check? [22:05] ps aux | grep zeitgeist [22:06] chris 1852 0.0 0.0 400160 3956 ? Sl 16:00 0:00 zeitgeist-datahub [22:06] chris 3167 0.0 0.0 9380 888 pts/1 S+ 18:06 0:00 grep --color=auto zeitgeist [22:06] what about [22:06] apt-cache policy zeitgeist-core | grep 'Installed' [22:07] Installed: 0.8.99~beta1-1 [22:07] mhh, so, it is installed but it's not running (AFAIK) [22:09] hold on, let me try something... [22:09] fwiw, this is on two machines for me [22:10] kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/lib/unity-lens-applications/unity-applications-daemon` [22:11] then, try to open the dash and write something, it should spawn a new unity-applications-daemon [22:11] on my system it spawn a new zeitgeist-daemon too [22:11] *spawns [22:12] (if it's not running) [22:13] still no results [22:14] mhhh [22:15] cjohnston, maybe you could try to delete/move ~/.local/share/zeitgeist [22:15] then make sure that no zeitgeist background process is running [22:15] and killing unity-applications-daemon again [22:16] the writing something in the dash, in my experience this brings unity-applications-daemon back, which in turn *should* start the zeitgeist daemons. [22:16] workaround [22:17] ? [22:17] that worked.. [22:17] so we have a workaround [22:17] yep [22:17] in my case the zeitgeist daemon wasn't running at all [22:18] in your case it wasn't running, probably due to a corrupt database. [22:18] i.e.: it was unable to start [22:19] cjohnston, now you could try to move your old zeitgeist data back, killing and restarting the daemons and check ~/.xsession-errors [22:19] but this is a blind guess, I have *no* idea where zeitgeist writes its log files... [22:20] oddly enough, after moving it back, and killing it [22:20] it still works [22:22] cjohnston, did you also kill the zeitgeist daemons? [22:23] yup [22:23] wait.. i used the kill command above [22:23] ah, so you killed unity-applications-daemon only [22:23] I marked the bug high based upon: Renders essential features or functionality of the application or dependencies broken or ineffective and Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users (estimated) [22:24] let's try this [22:24] kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon` [22:24] kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/lib/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-fts` [22:25] (I don't know the command for zeitgeist-datahub, I don't have it installed) [22:25] kill -s TERM `pidof /usr/lib/unity-lens-applications/unity-applications-daemon` [22:25] then move your backup copy of the zeitgeist database back to its place [22:25] then let unity restart unity-applications-daemon [22:27] now it doesnt work [22:27] if it doesn't work again, then I think it is safe to assume that you have a corrupted database which prevents zeitgeist-daemon to start [22:27] cjohnston, I think you should file a separate bug report for that and attach a copy of your zeitgeist database (provided it does not contain sensitive information) [22:27] since our issues are different [22:28] ** WARNING **: zeitgeist-datahub.vala:224: Unable to get name "org.gnome.zeitgeist.datahub" on the bus! [22:28] cjohnston, that shouldn't be a problem (I think), since you didn't kill zeitgeist-datahub before, either [22:31] cjohnston, so you kept a backup of your db and if you use that zg doesn't start? [22:31] correct [22:31] * mhr3 is zg upstream and would like to know what's going on here [22:32] any errors from zeitgeist-daemon ? [22:32] mhr3: yes [22:32] where would I look mhr3 [22:33] just run `zeitgeist-daemon --replace --log-level=debug` [22:34] [22:34:19.790262 DEBUG] utils.vala:58: DATA_PATH = /home/chris/.local/share/zeitgeist [22:34] [22:34:19.790351 DEBUG] utils.vala:77: DATABASE_FILE_PATH = /home/chris/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite [22:35] pastebin is your friend [22:35] (: [22:35] its only two lines [22:35] oh? [22:35] ya.. thats all I got [22:35] wtf [22:36] so it seems like it hangs trying to open the db [22:36] your db must be "interesting" [22:37] how big is it? [22:37] mhr3: since your in the know on zg.. are you aware of any issues where zg runs away with all of my ram? [22:37] zg doesn't, fts does [22:38] cjohnston, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/928324 ? [22:38] Error: ubuntu bug 928324 not found [22:38] is there a bug on that? [22:38] must be private [22:38] 1 sec [22:38] oh.. right [22:38] sorry [22:38] mhr3: I just got unity-lens-video crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon exited with status 1 [22:39] mhr3: yes... I don't know though that its fts.. I just kill the pid and move on [22:39] oh so it at least return an error code [22:39] because it makes my system inoperable [22:39] i got a ubuntu-bug popup and it wants me to report a bug in LP [22:39] but its against unity-lens-video [22:40] cjohnston, well if zg itself is using lots of mem than something is terribly wrong, it should be around ~5 mb all the time [22:40] fts on the other hand has a xapian index, and that has some memory issues apparently :( [22:41] ill have to look into it mhr3 next time it happens [22:41] I normally am stuck having to ssh in to kill the pid [22:41] but the error code is interesting [22:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-video/+bug/964201 [22:42] Error: ubuntu bug 964201 not found [22:42] its private [22:43] wow, it must be super-private, i can't see it :P [22:49] probably because its against ubuntu.. I'm bug control or whatever its called, so i can see alot of stuff [22:49] if i subscribe you would that let you ahve access? [22:49] 7 [22:49] uggh [22:50] yea, i'm bug-control too :) [22:51] clearly that's not enough :) [22:51] ok now it worked [22:51] cjohnston, can you lower the importance of bug 964146 ? [22:51] g2g.. dinner.. bbiaf [22:52] Launchpad bug 964146 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "[workaround] Application lens is empty since the update to 5.8.0" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964146 [22:52] to? [22:52] it shouldn't happen on a default installation since weak-dependencies are installed by APT by default, IIRC [22:52] bbiaf, dinner [22:52] sadly there's nothing interesting there, no logs :( [22:52] cjohnston, don't know.. "Normal", maybe or even low [22:53] I think it's pretty uncommon to disable installation of weak dependencies [22:53] * lvillani is a control freak... [22:55] cjohnston, any chance you could open a bug against zeitgeist with your activity.sqlite from the backup that causes the problem? [23:06] mhr3: lp.net/zeitgeist? [23:18] do you mind looking through it real quick and then letting me remove ie? [23:18] uggh [23:28] cjohnston, holy crap, that's huge [23:28] cjohnston, are you using u1 a lot? [23:28] i was [23:28] i moved most of my stuff off of it [23:29] i think the u1 dataprovider is kinda screwed up, but let me look at it first [23:32] I blame Aq [23:33] 50% of the uris in there are uids from u1 :( [23:33] it shouldn't log those at all [23:34] is that how it tells if they are in sync or not? [23:38] * davidcalle wakes up [23:38] Video lens bug, hmm, did I screw up something? [23:39] Oh, nope :) [23:40] davidcalle: ty very much for fixing my video lens bug [23:40] cjohnston, which one? [23:41] Chris's Stuff [23:41] the ' causing errors [23:42] cjohnston, oh right :) It was me being silly. === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [23:43] your sillyness caused me headaches :-P [23:43] Hehe [23:45] mhr3, is "Zeitgeist not installed" really a use case that lenses should support? What do the other lenses do, stay silent? [23:46] davidcalle, they dont really work in that case... which is a bug obviously :) [23:47] bug in a library though... lenses will work once that is fixed [23:48] mhr3, why doesn't Zeitgeist have a hard dependency on Unity, by the way? [23:48] Isn't that the other way around? [23:48] Right :) [23:49] well, i dont have strong opinion either way [23:50] once i fix the bug in the library i'll be happy === jalcine_ is now known as Guest21090 [23:58] cjohnston, btw feel free to remove it [23:58] ty