| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 06:24 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:36 |
| Kilos | later | 06:54 |
| kbmonkey | morning o/ | 08:19 |
| Kilos | yay xubuntu getting better slowly. synaptic can at least see archives now | 08:28 |
| kbmonkey | hi Kilos | 08:29 |
| kbmonkey | yay you making it work oom! | 08:30 |
| Kilos | hiya kbmonkey . yeah slowly but what a job | 08:30 |
| Kilos | still no sound in xchat. *sigh | 08:30 |
| Kilos | pidgin freecell vlc all got sound but nothing in xchat | 08:31 |
| Kilos | and all settings in preferences same as on maverick | 08:32 |
| Kilos | hi dLimit drussell drubin | 08:33 |
| kbmonkey | when I tried xubuntu I also noticed that Kilos, I was surprised they would include xchat when it did not integrate properly | 08:42 |
| Kilos | yeah crazy hey , and i rely on sound so eye doesnt have to keep running around all over | 08:43 |
| kbmonkey | kilos go into xchat settings -> preferences, sound section | 08:46 |
| Kilos | ok! | 08:47 |
| Kilos | was normally in alerts to get sound going | 08:48 |
| kbmonkey | then try selecting a sound file and use the 'play' button to see if it works | 08:48 |
| kbmonkey | um I think the event you want is "channel msg highlight" | 08:49 |
| kbmonkey | i think... | 08:49 |
| Kilos | lol selected a mp3 and plays sends out mush | 08:50 |
| kbmonkey | garbled? | 08:50 |
| kbmonkey | but it makes sound | 08:51 |
| Kilos | ya like a tv off channel | 08:51 |
| kbmonkey | maybe it needs a .wav file | 08:51 |
| kbmonkey | but use it. if it works (makes a sound like you expect) | 08:51 |
| kbmonkey | we can just get you to find a nicer sound :) | 08:51 |
| Kilos | haha maybe i can record a loud hey on fone and use that | 08:52 |
| Kilos | i stop it again | 08:53 |
| Kilos | how do - | 08:53 |
| Kilos | sjoe that was bad i think it played the mush till song was finished | 08:55 |
| kbmonkey | he he. | 08:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:55 |
| Kilos | where do i find that "channel msg highlight" | 08:56 |
| Kilos | thats highlighting not sound | 08:56 |
| kbmonkey | in that event list in preferences | 08:56 |
| kbmonkey | where you chose that sound | 08:56 |
| Kilos | ok i try again | 08:57 |
| Kilos | tried to close xchat to stop the noise | 08:57 |
| Kilos | whew | 08:57 |
| Kilos | forgot one can turn speaker volume down | 08:58 |
| kbmonkey | :P | 08:58 |
| Kilos | is it not some kinda plugin missing in xchat | 09:05 |
| Kilos | or a lib file | 09:06 |
| kbmonkey | sound works right? | 09:07 |
| kbmonkey | so maybe the xchat default sounds cant befoundon kde | 09:07 |
| Kilos | xfce | 09:07 |
| kbmonkey | yes xfce | 09:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:08 |
| Kilos | yeah even freecell sound works | 09:08 |
| Kilos | it just needs to be pointed to where the bloep sound is | 09:09 |
| Kilos | xchat i mean | 09:09 |
| kbmonkey | yes, i think that is allyou need to do | 09:09 |
| kbmonkey | i wonderif you can generate a bloep sound andsave it to wav file | 09:09 |
| Kilos | where does one find the file that make the beep when you make mistakes | 09:10 |
| kbmonkey | ? no clue | 09:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:10 |
| Kilos | maybe bin or something | 09:11 |
| Kilos | i go look in everything | 09:11 |
| kbmonkey | /usr/share/sound | 09:11 |
| Kilos | maybe this is relevant. it doesnt play a login or boot sound either | 09:12 |
| Kilos | ok i go see | 09:12 |
| Kilos | ty | 09:12 |
| kbmonkey | there is a program called beep | 09:12 |
| kbmonkey | it is 25kilobytes | 09:12 |
| kbmonkey | but i think it beeps the pcspeaker | 09:12 |
| Kilos | ok ty i will try that | 09:13 |
| kbmonkey | best to finda sound sample | 09:13 |
| Kilos | maybe i can look in maverick if there are any xchat sound files in /usr/share/sounds | 09:18 |
| Kilos | here i find funny front left centre sounds fo alsa | 09:18 |
| Kilos | some chick speaks them to you | 09:19 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:19 |
| Kilos | ah found the pidgin sounds there in purple folder | 09:20 |
| Kilos | maybe it some sounds missing in that sexy file of xchat | 09:22 |
| kbmonkey | ah yes good idea! choose a pidgin sound | 09:23 |
| kbmonkey | they both IM apps after all | 09:23 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:23 |
| Kilos | just looking through all lib files in synaptic. | 09:26 |
| kbmonkey | battery is going flat, be back later Kilos | 09:33 |
| kbmonkey | o/ | 09:33 |
| Kilos | toods kbmonkey | 09:33 |
| kbmonkey | hope you find a soundand it works! | 09:33 |
| Kilos | lol ty | 09:34 |
| kbmonkey | im using irssi on a shell, so i dont get any notification :p | 09:34 |
| Kilos | eish | 09:34 |
| Kerbero | internetz, we have it again | 10:45 |
| Kerbero | o symmetria was also offline | 10:48 |
| Kerbero | must have been a very bad internet outage | 10:48 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 11:29 |
| kbmonkey | howdy o/ | 11:33 |
| magespawn | jey kbmonkey | 11:40 |
| magespawn | hey even | 11:40 |
| kbmonkey | how goes it? did any python lately? | 11:42 |
| kbmonkey | ever tried: import this | 11:43 |
| magespawn | no not really been working on a couple of laptop | 11:43 |
| kbmonkey | oh wow its Saturday. huh, :p | 11:45 |
| psydroid | hi magespawn | 11:45 |
| psydroid | hi kbmonkey | 11:45 |
| magespawn | hi psydroid | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | been studying crypto and probability theory | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | hi psydroid | 11:45 |
| magespawn | okay then so light reading | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | check www.coursera.org | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | free courses from universiteis | 11:46 |
| magespawn | nice, MIT has got a similar thing going, this is from their website | 11:47 |
| kbmonkey | want to have a go on the google appengine, they have python too | 11:47 |
| magespawn | http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm | 11:50 |
| kbmonkey | can't watch videos though, so learning by the subtitles. so it's a bit tricky to | 11:50 |
| kbmonkey | understand what the transcriptions say :p | 11:50 |
| magespawn | why can you not watch the videos? | 11:51 |
| kbmonkey | on very limited bandwidth | 11:51 |
| magespawn | ahh | 11:52 |
| kbmonkey | which is irnoic, as the site is trying to promote free education in 3rd world countries | 11:53 |
| magespawn | lack of understanding of the problems | 11:53 |
| magespawn | have you heard of Khan Academy? | 11:54 |
| kbmonkey | if we can get those vids on the local bandwidth | 11:54 |
| kbmonkey | yes I have, thx for reminding me about that! | 11:55 |
| magespawn | maybe get them mirrored on a local sever? | 11:55 |
| magespawn | server | 11:55 |
| kbmonkey | think i'll do that! | 11:56 |
| magespawn | how? how does that work? | 11:56 |
| kbmonkey | haven't done any Khan courses yet | 11:57 |
| magespawn | i was refering to the "think i'll do that" part, which i assumed was refering to the mirror idea | 11:58 |
| kbmonkey | now to find what includes telkom local bandwidth... | 11:59 |
| magespawn | any locally hosted site | 12:00 |
| kbmonkey | google app engine even has irc bot libraries :) | 12:03 |
| magespawn | sounds cool | 12:30 |
| magespawn | kbmonkey what would you do with it? any ideas? | 12:36 |
| magespawn | brb | 12:41 |
| magespawn | strange my bot does not want to join the room | 12:43 |
| magespawn | server seems to be running fine, just no bot | 12:45 |
| kbmonkey | damn, i just killed my network on the desktop :/ | 13:01 |
| kbmonkey | this room? your bot self hosted? | 13:02 |
| kbmonkey | what bot is this magespawn? :) | 13:04 |
| magespawn | yup gc or gc_ | 13:05 |
| kbmonkey | wrote a mxit bot for word games once, like to implement that again in python+irc | 13:07 |
| magespawn | that would be cool , maybe we could do it together,i am have off see you later | 13:09 |
| kbmonkey | cool, laters! | 13:10 |
| kbmonkey | that will be fun... | 13:10 |
| kodez | afternoon to all | 13:27 |
| kbmonkey | hi kodez | 13:30 |
| kodez | hi kbmonkey, how are you? | 13:31 |
| kbmonkey | good and you? | 13:34 |
| kbmonkey | i just borked my wifi on the desktop :/ oops | 13:34 |
| kodez | i am in good spirit and shape. i am just trying to understand JavaSript Objects. | 13:37 |
| kodez | kbmonkey: are you an engineer? | 13:38 |
| kbmonkey | mechanical or software kodez ? | 13:43 |
| kbmonkey | I can do some electronics, mostly coding | 13:43 |
| Tonberry | the engineer is a spy! | 13:43 |
| kbmonkey | lol! | 13:44 |
| * Banlam needs to play moar tf2 | 13:44 | |
| Tonberry | indeed | 13:44 |
| kodez | now i know why your wifi is broken. only hackers, engineers and scientists are capable of breaking and fixing. | 13:45 |
| kodez | lol | 13:46 |
| Banlam | i used to break things | 13:46 |
| Banlam | i still do, but I used to | 13:46 |
| kodez | when is programming been discussed here? | 13:47 |
| Banlam | whenever you can get other people to talk about it | 13:47 |
| kbmonkey | yay fixed :) using wicd connection manager | 13:49 |
| kodez | i wish we can have a standard agenda to discuss programming | 13:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee time | 13:58 |
| Maaz | It is always coffee time! | 13:58 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 13:58 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 13:58 | |
| Kilos | hey kbmonkey Kerbero superfly and others | 14:01 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 14:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 14:02 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 14:02 |
| * Banlam also wants coffee | 14:03 | |
| Kilos | lol | 14:05 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee for banlam | 14:05 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sorry... | 14:05 |
| Kilos | gccoffee on | 14:06 |
| Kilos | grrr | 14:06 |
| * Banlam walks to the kettle | 14:06 | |
| Kilos | no gc | 14:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:07 |
| Kilos | sorry | 14:07 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 14:15 |
| Kilos | oh my lost again | 14:22 |
| Kilos | lo plustwo | 14:22 |
| not_found | I now realize I am logged in twice :/ | 14:22 |
| nlsthzn | better | 14:23 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 14:24 |
| nlsthzn | Hi uncle Kilos | 14:24 |
| Kilos | oh you the not found guy. methunk it was plustwo | 14:25 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 14:26 |
| nlsthzn | it was I | 14:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:27 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, did you try xubuntu | 14:28 |
| Kilos | with xchat default | 14:29 |
| Kilos | natty | 14:29 |
| nlsthzn | I played with 11.10 a while back... not with 11.04 however | 14:29 |
| nlsthzn | Why? Having issues? | 14:29 |
| Kilos | xchat has no sound alerts no matter what i do in prefs alerts | 14:29 |
| nlsthzn | Ah | 14:29 |
| Kilos | and also no login sound\ | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | I have had the issue with all versions of XChat | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | So what I started to do was to install mplayer... | 14:30 |
| nlsthzn | and in the preferences for alerts specify to use an external application and enter mplayer | 14:30 |
| Kilos | wow i have only had smiles with xchat once i learned how to do the settings in prefs | 14:31 |
| nlsthzn | preferenses -> Chatting -> Sound | 14:31 |
| nlsthzn | switch to External program and type in mplayer... then I choose the sound effects for msg highlight and private message.. | 14:32 |
| Kilos | lol i tried using the pidgin sounds found in /usr/share/sounds and while in there if i push play then there is sound but nothing once closed | 14:32 |
| Kilos | ok lemme go to xubuntu and try that | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | if that doesn't work then I suspect something wrong with the alsa mixer... maybe something muted | 14:33 |
| Kilos | hasnt xubuntu got a login sound either | 14:33 |
| Kilos | been checking for 3 or more days | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | I am not sure.. can't remember | 14:33 |
| Kilos | maybe that external app will work | 14:36 |
| Kilos | rebooting to xubuntu | 14:36 |
| Kilos | be good | 14:36 |
| nlsthzn | bai | 14:36 |
| Kilos | hehe small old drives have one advantage, you can hear it working | 14:41 |
| nlsthzn | I loved the sound of the older HDD... | 14:45 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:45 |
| nlsthzn | always made me think I am doing something when I could hear it | 14:45 |
| nlsthzn | now all I hear is wooooosssshhhh! from all the fans :p | 14:46 |
| Kilos | yes im the same | 14:46 |
| Kilos | oh my. installed mplayer and its making pidgin send/receive sounds | 14:46 |
| nlsthzn | weird :p | 14:46 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:46 |
| Kilos | i had told it to use them before | 14:47 |
| Kilos | so thats whats missing. xchat not connected to any player | 14:47 |
| nlsthzn | Now the day when I understand somthing like that or how to troubleshoot the correlation I will feel I am starting to understand this silly operating system | 14:47 |
| Kilos | so weird. always before my xchat didnt have and probs with sound. from 9.10 | 14:48 |
| Kilos | but they were all ubuntu | 14:48 |
| Kilos | looks like the xfce designers are all deaf so they dont worry about it | 14:49 |
| nlsthzn | I have had the same issues even in Ubuntu | 14:49 |
| nlsthzn | .. in the last few releases in any case | 14:49 |
| Kilos | after maverick hey? | 14:50 |
| nlsthzn | can't be sure... can't remember the first time I tried setting up xchat and using IRC | 14:51 |
| Kilos | whats news there nlsthzn | 14:51 |
| nlsthzn | Not to much uncle Kilos... was supposed to start day shift today... | 14:51 |
| Kilos | they still done nothing | 14:52 |
| nlsthzn | will hear tomorrow (start of the week) | 14:52 |
| Kilos | did you fone work and tell them the prob? | 14:52 |
| nlsthzn | Oh the work is well aware :p | 14:52 |
| Kilos | we pray for you lad | 14:53 |
| nlsthzn | :) thanks uncle Kilos ... I don't think it is that bad yet but I will never say no to some help from above | 14:54 |
| Kilos | good we ask superfly to also add you | 14:54 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 14:58 |
| Kilos | hi | 15:00 |
| Kilos | stupid thing dont play sound when nick mentioned all your messages go bing bong | 15:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:01 |
| Kilos | brbr | 15:03 |
| Kilos | gc, coffee on | 15:44 |
| * gc starts grinding coffee | 15:44 | |
| Kilos | gc, wb | 15:44 |
| gc | Kilos: What? | 15:44 |
| Kilos | stupid bot | 15:44 |
| gc | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 15:48 |
| Kilos | gc thanks | 15:49 |
| gc | Kilos: not at all | 15:49 |
| kbmonkey | kodez: what programming are you into? | 16:29 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 16:30 |
| psydroid | oh, he left | 16:30 |
| kodez | i'm currently learning C++, Python, Java and JavaScript | 16:30 |
| psydroid | half an hour ago too | 16:30 |
| psydroid | hi kodez | 16:31 |
| kodez | hi psydroid | 16:31 |
| kodez | how are you today? | 16:31 |
| psydroid | I am fine, thank you. and you? | 16:31 |
| kodez | guys, if i want to run Ubuntu server as my desktop. what challenges will it give me? | 16:32 |
| psydroid | I need to learn PHP and JavaScript too | 16:32 |
| psydroid | how would you use that as a desktop? | 16:32 |
| kodez | psydroid: i am in good shape and spirit. just challenged by JavaScript | 16:32 |
| psydroid | using the command line? | 16:33 |
| psydroid | kodez, so am I, especially when it comes to AJAX stuff | 16:33 |
| kodez | i had not yet decided which desktop UI to install | 16:33 |
| kodez | i am struggling with <select> statements. i can't make the right connections | 16:35 |
| psydroid | have you tried asking in ##javascript? | 16:37 |
| Tonberry | that sounds more like an html issue... | 16:37 |
| Tonberry | depending entirely on what you are doing anyway... | 16:37 |
| kbmonkey | of all languages I've done, I find Python refreshing | 16:39 |
| psydroid | for what reason? | 16:39 |
| kbmonkey | kodez: desktop and server use the same base. differences are server does not install X (Gnome,KDE) by default | 16:40 |
| kbmonkey | and server installs hosting services like MySQL, PHHP etc | 16:40 |
| kodez | psydroid: not yet | 16:41 |
| kodez | kbmonkey: does the server support other desktop applications? like gimp, chess, etc | 16:50 |
| kbmonkey | yes it does kodez | 16:52 |
| kbmonkey | you just have to install all of the X stuff yourself | 16:52 |
| kbmonkey | ie gnome-desktop | 16:52 |
| kbmonkey | what reason do you want the server for though? | 16:53 |
| kbmonkey | if you plan to use it like a desktop, rather install desktop | 16:53 |
| kodez | kbmonkey: ty. i am planning to use a server on my laptop and pc in order to benefit in the LTS services | 16:53 |
| kbmonkey | okay | 16:54 |
| kbmonkey | you'll find you'll probably upgrade your OS before the standard support period is over ;) | 16:54 |
| kodez | that's exactly what i want to run away from | 16:55 |
| Tonberry | if you use a server install and install a desktop env on top of that | 16:58 |
| Tonberry | then you have exactly the same support period as a desktop install of the same ubuntu version | 16:59 |
| inetpro | kodez: there's absolutely no point in installing a server release on a laptop if you are planning to use it as a desktop with a GUI interface | 17:01 |
| inetpro | a server release is meant to have no GUI, it's a waste of precious resources | 17:02 |
| Tonberry | and the longer support period is for the server bits as far as I know | 17:02 |
| kbmonkey | if you have issues with that, you could run debian sid. but that is more unstable, give or take | 17:03 |
| kodez | my intention is to run a server on my pc and because i have a limited access to internet, i think it will be better to use one system in both | 17:05 |
| inetpro | kodez: adding gnome-desktop with all it's dependancies makes it into a desktop similar to the desktop release | 17:31 |
| inetpro | and on top of that you end up with more than just that | 17:32 |
| inetpro | you end up with stuff that is installed as part of the server release which would not have been installed on the desktop | 17:32 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro kodez and others | 17:34 |
| inetpro | hello Kilos | 17:34 |
| kodez | hi kilos | 17:34 |
| kodez | does the gnome 2 works well with ubuntu 11.10? | 17:35 |
| inetpro | kodez: if you want a lightweight system then ubuntu is the wrong choice because ubuntu is up front with development and things change at a rapid pace | 17:36 |
| tumbleweed | kodez: gnome 2 is gone in 11.10 | 17:37 |
| tumbleweed | there's gnome 3 fallback mode, which is like gnome 2, but is not gnome 2 | 17:38 |
| Kilos | hmm | 17:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wat hmm jy so? | 17:44 |
| Kilos | im not the only one | 17:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: obviously | 17:44 |
| Kilos | looked at doing gnome on xubuntu but its 145m downloads | 17:44 |
| kodez | i want the option to connect to server in unity, how can i do that? | 17:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: if you put gnome on xubuntu you are defeating the purpose of xubuntu | 17:45 |
| Kilos | but then it would be understandable inetpro | 17:46 |
| Kilos | like xchat wasnt even pointed at a media player | 17:46 |
| Kilos | had to install mplayer and tell xchat what sound files to go find | 17:47 |
| Kilos | now i got and xchat that bing bongs like pidgin | 17:47 |
| Kilos | xubuntu doesnt just work. you do | 17:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: pidgin is dependant on gtk stuffs | 17:49 |
| inetpro | it's built for gnome on gnome | 17:50 |
| Kilos | i only pointed the xchat settings to certain purple files. the .wav ones | 17:50 |
| Kilos | i dunno where to find xchat own bloep file | 17:50 |
| Kilos | but xubuntu is smoothing out slowly. even the shutdown button shuts down now not reboots all the time | 17:52 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 17:53 |
| inetpro | according to wikipedia Xfce is based on the GTK+ 2 toolkit (the same as GNOME 2.x) | 17:53 |
| Kilos | is that good? | 17:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm just verifying whether I was talking nonsense or not | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lol\ | 17:55 |
| Kilos | are you still using unity inetpro ? | 17:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: to be honest, yes | 17:56 |
| inetpro | on my laptop yes but not at the office | 17:56 |
| Kilos | you getting used to it now? | 17:56 |
| Kilos | old kubuntu at the office? | 17:57 |
| inetpro | gwibber just irritaets the heck out of me | 17:57 |
| inetpro | irritates* | 17:57 |
| Kilos | lol one of the first things i remove | 17:57 |
| inetpro | I like choqok on kde but it aint working so nicely on gnome | 18:00 |
| Kilos | choqok? | 18:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's a twitter client on the kde desktop | 18:01 |
| Kilos | oh | 18:01 |
| Kilos | ty | 18:02 |
| kodez | in a client/server network, how can i configure user accounts to be accessed in any computer in the network? where can i learn more about this? | 18:02 |
| inetpro | kodez: what is a client/server network? | 18:04 |
| kodez | a network where two or more computers are connected | 18:04 |
| Kilos | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html | 18:05 |
| inetpro | hmm... all the computers in the intertubes are somehow connected with each other | 18:05 |
| inetpro | Maaz: ftp | 18:07 |
| Maaz | Dump FTP! http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp see also: FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie | 18:07 |
| Kilos | inetpro, gtwitter | 18:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wth is gtwitter? | 18:09 |
| Kilos | gTwitter is a client for posting and fetching updates to the | 18:09 |
| Kilos | twitter service. | 18:09 |
| Kilos | in the repos on mqaverick. dunno about later releases | 18:10 |
| Kilos | *maverick | 18:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:10 |
| Kilos | aptitude install gtwitter | 18:10 |
| inetpro | nothing here | 18:11 |
| Kilos | what release are you on of gnome | 18:11 |
| inetpro | Oneiric | 18:11 |
| Kilos | is a universe package on maverick | 18:12 |
| Kilos | how are you doing gnome there | 18:12 |
| Kilos | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas | 18:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment | 18:13 |
| Kilos | oh so gnome still hidden in there | 18:14 |
| confluency | Unity isn't part of GNOME. The GNOME equivalent is gnome-shell. | 18:15 |
| Kilos | ah ty confluency you been very quiet this year | 18:16 |
| confluency | GNOME is still under there, but it can be pretty hard to see. | 18:16 |
| confluency | :) | 18:16 |
| Kilos | are you also unitied | 18:17 |
| confluency | You can switch to a more traditional-looking GNOME interface if you don't like Unity. | 18:17 |
| confluency | No, I've been using Fluxbox for years, so what Ubuntu does to the default desktop environment doesn't affect me. :) | 18:17 |
| Kilos | oh ya i tried gnome classic with natty but it gave lotsa probs | 18:17 |
| confluency | AFAIK you need to tweak some things and maybe install some packages, but unfortunately I don't know the details (I haven't done it myself). | 18:18 |
| confluency | Ah, I think in the latest distros Classic isn't installed by default. | 18:20 |
| inetpro | great thing about Linux is that you have a lot of choice | 18:22 |
| Kilos | yeah but not nice to lose something like maverick that works so well | 18:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you win some, you lose some | 18:29 |
| Kilos | hehe no man thats not nice | 18:29 |
| inetpro | unfortunately competition is tough out there and developers can't be everywhere | 18:30 |
| inetpro | developers tend to go with the latest and greatest | 18:30 |
| Kilos | when ian comes with his external dvd writer i will run remastersys so i can use maverick for a long time still | 18:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: eventually it will die | 18:31 |
| Kilos | hopefully after me | 18:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: luckily we don't live in caves any more | 18:33 |
| Kilos | i will use xubuntu as well but will keep maverick going | 18:33 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:33 |
| Kilos | ek sal maaz se om jou te vloek | 18:33 |
| Kilos | just really wish ubuntu would configure debdelta | 18:35 |
| Kilos | or that other word | 18:35 |
| Kilos | ag something | 18:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the problem is not with Ubuntu | 18:36 |
| Kilos | ya they need to get a server fo debdelta i think tumbleweed said | 18:37 |
| inetpro | the problem is our high costs of communication in South Africa | 18:37 |
| Kilos | i agree but debdelta is the answer for that | 18:37 |
| tumbleweed | it'll certainly help | 18:38 |
| Kilos | save from 50% to 80% of downloads | 18:38 |
| tumbleweed | but in general, prices are going down and caps are going up | 18:38 |
| tumbleweed | and some ISPs (e.g. webafrica) provide free access to ubuntu mirrors | 18:38 |
| inetpro | I agree that it will help | 18:38 |
| Kilos | our prob is the mobile suppliers i think | 18:39 |
| magespawn | Evening all | 18:40 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:40 |
| inetpro | sadly the rest of the world is taking high speed connectiosn for granted and they don't consider us | 18:40 |
| inetpro | so we'll have to build it for ourselves | 18:40 |
| Kilos | yeah they dont know what its like here | 18:40 |
| inetpro | connections* | 18:41 |
| tumbleweed | there are other parts of the world that are also pretty bad | 18:41 |
| tumbleweed | and our mobile connectivity is some of the cheapest in the world | 18:41 |
| tumbleweed | it'd be inconceivable to use 3g as your primary connection in most countries | 18:41 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: most or many? | 18:42 |
| tumbleweed | probably most | 18:42 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:42 |
| magespawn | I thought ours was one.of the most expensive | 18:42 |
| Kilos | the word is integrate | 18:44 |
| Tonberry | mobile internet not | 18:45 |
| Kilos | with debdelta mobile would be bearable | 18:46 |
| Kilos | its just updates that kill one | 18:46 |
| Kilos | learned some more about boot-repair. is you use one drive to repair a second drive you first have to boot from second drive and start boot-repair there and once going pull power from first drive or you get grub> at boot | 18:49 |
| magespawn | Is anyone here part of a WUG? | 18:49 |
| magespawn | Kilos you going to be boot-repair go to guy just now | 18:50 |
| Kilos | lol @mage | 18:51 |
| Kilos | there is a way to get them on irc magespawn . dunno if i still have it saved somewhere | 18:52 |
| magespawn | Get what, Kilos? | 18:52 |
| Kilos | http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23ptawug&net=WugNet | 18:52 |
| Kilos | wrong one | 18:53 |
| Kilos | http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_3 | 18:53 |
| Kilos | they were quite helpful when i went there over a year ago | 18:54 |
| magespawn | ty | 18:55 |
| Kilos | yw | 18:56 |
| Kilos | they got all the info about necessary equipment and all | 18:56 |
| magespawn | had a look at the website and wiki and such. | 18:57 |
| Kilos | would be good to get a wug going on the north coast | 18:59 |
| Kilos | they even offered to download ubuntu stuff for me if i got connected to them | 19:00 |
| magespawn | Yes do not know how much use it will be up here though, not many people | 19:00 |
| Kilos | there must be some with uncapped internet access | 19:01 |
| Kilos | you can look at all holiday makers to the north coast once it covers wide enough | 19:01 |
| magespawn | I was thinking of letting people connect to mine for flat fee | 19:01 |
| magespawn | The internet not the wig | 19:01 |
| magespawn | Wug | 19:02 |
| Kilos | they most likely will | 19:02 |
| Kilos | lol you can get them to paypall you | 19:02 |
| Kilos | thousands of freestaters and vaalies go down every year | 19:03 |
| Kilos | those with kids in holiday season and without kids year round | 19:03 |
| Kilos | one can even setup internet cafes in the game reserves and favourite fishing beaches | 19:04 |
| magespawn | ** Closing link: (unknown@41.8.105.116) [Z-Lined: Abuse] | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ? | 19:05 |
| magespawn | Just got that from the irc channel | 19:05 |
| magespawn | Now I am banned | 19:06 |
| Kilos | did you swear at them | 19:06 |
| magespawn | Did not even log on | 19:06 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:06 |
| Kilos | maybe because you didnt greet them | 19:07 |
| Kilos | or they thought you are a spy | 19:08 |
| magespawn | Did not get the chance to greet them, any way they give an email address to send the error to, which I just did. | 19:11 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:12 |
| magespawn | okay that was strange, any who. | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | gc: coffee on | 19:16 |
| * gc puts the kettle on | 19:16 | |
| kbmonkey | yey | 19:16 |
| Kilos | gc, coffee please | 19:17 |
| gc | Kilos: Sure | 19:17 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos: did you find a bleepin sound for your xchat? | 19:18 |
| Kilos | neil helped and said i gotta install mplayer and ten tell sounds where to find sound files | 19:19 |
| Kilos | so my xchat sounds like pidgin | 19:19 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 19:19 |
| Kilos | mplayer is needed because it doesnt see vlc etc automatically | 19:19 |
| kbmonkey | well i found xchat uses aplay for sound, so you select a wav, mp3 or ogg will just output white noise | 19:20 |
| gc | Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos! | 19:20 |
| Kilos | gc, thanks | 19:20 |
| gc | Kilos: my pleasure | 19:20 |
| kbmonkey | gc: thanks! | 19:20 |
| gc | no probs, kbmonkey | 19:20 |
| Kilos | haha its a pleasure for me | 19:20 |
| Kilos | but it still doesnt make sound on nick said only on channel messages | 19:21 |
| Kilos | will investigate more tomorrow and/or next week | 19:22 |
| kbmonkey | you set a sound to one other of those events | 19:24 |
| Kilos | i have them all ticked but nick said dont work | 19:24 |
| kbmonkey | "channel msg hilight" | 19:24 |
| Kilos | thats the important one if you not near pc | 19:25 |
| Kilos | i did that one too | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | no no the alerts section, you must set the sound under "sounds" | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | there are no "ticks" for where i mean | 19:26 |
| kbmonkey | those are called checkboxes btw :) | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ya i did channel mesasage highlight and 2 or three others | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ty | 19:26 |
| kbmonkey | it uses aplay. if kde does not have aplay you could set an alternative? | 19:27 |
| kbmonkey | why does my head hurt? :/ | 19:27 |
| Kilos | ah you sharing | 19:28 |
| Kilos | not lekker hey | 19:28 |
| Kilos | xfce | 19:28 |
| kbmonkey | lol why do I keep thinking you are on kde :p | 19:29 |
| Kilos | maybe aplay isnt installed either | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | it hurts on the outside not inside | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | like i hit it really hard, but i know i never hit it | 19:29 |
| Kilos | stop pulling your hair out | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | and the pain shoots into the eyes when i move around too fast. ha ha yes i'll try | 19:29 |
| Kilos | im sure i have made most of the guys half bald already | 19:30 |
| Kilos | if you stand up fast do you get dizzy | 19:30 |
| Kilos | after lying down a while that is | 19:31 |
| kbmonkey | that always happens. its fun | 19:31 |
| kbmonkey | but its not usually sore | 19:32 |
| Kilos | have your bp checked at a chemist | 19:32 |
| Kilos | used to be free | 19:32 |
| Kilos | most likely low if i member right | 19:34 |
| Kilos | if it is dont take pills eat salt | 19:34 |
| inetpro | damn! | 19:36 |
| Kilos | what?? | 19:36 |
| * inetpro just realised why I've been using way to much bandwidth | 19:36 | |
| Kilos | tell!! | 19:36 |
| inetpro | I never installed flashblock on Firefox | 19:37 |
| * inetpro hates flash | 19:37 | |
| Banlam | unlucky | 19:37 |
| Kilos | and you connection is too fast | 19:37 |
| Kilos | will waste lots | 19:37 |
| Kilos | inetpro, did you get gTwitter | 19:38 |
| Kilos | find? | 19:38 |
| inetpro | some of the flash stuffs that displays automagically when opening certain websites is simply irresistible | 19:40 |
| inetpro | once you see it you want to watch it | 19:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no I don't want anything that is not in the repos | 19:41 |
| Kilos | see if you have Turpial | 19:41 |
| inetpro | if it's not in the repositories it is not good enough | 19:42 |
| Kilos | or open synaptic and type twitter in the little search window | 19:42 |
| inetpro | Kilos: turpial is useless | 19:42 |
| inetpro | compared to choqok | 19:42 |
| Kilos | even if choqok isnt working | 19:42 |
| Kilos | thats like what is the best car | 19:43 |
| Kilos | the one the goes | 19:43 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, you ok? | 19:45 |
| magespawn | Mz | 19:50 |
| Kilos | huh | 19:50 |
| magespawn | Typo | 19:57 |
| Kilos | inetpro, twitter in pidgin or you dont use that anymore | 19:58 |
| Kilos | magespawn, typo for what | 19:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you really want me to loose my sanity? | 19:59 |
| Kilos | lol thats why mine is switched off most of the time | 19:59 |
| magespawn | Wrong screen and wrong device | 19:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:00 |
| Kilos | twitter in pidgin is like fb in pidgin | 20:00 |
| magespawn | did not know you could do fb in pidgin | 20:01 |
| kbmonkey | yes im still alive Kilos | 20:02 |
| kbmonkey | wifi is bad, slow and unstable.. | 20:02 |
| Kilos | have your blood pressure checked | 20:02 |
| inetpro | Twitter and FB integration with IM is madness unless you only have very few friends | 20:02 |
| kbmonkey | i had the round of tests done 2 weeks ago Kilos, all is okay :] | 20:04 |
| Kilos | whew | 20:04 |
| inetpro | oh and unless those few friends only talk or update their status once in a blue moon | 20:05 |
| Kilos | lol ya inetpro drove me nuts too | 20:05 |
| kbmonkey | lol! | 20:08 |
| Symmetria | Rebuild Progress on Device at Enclosure 48, Slot 13 Completed 52% in 644 Minutes. | 20:23 |
| Symmetria | *snore* | 20:23 |
| Symmetria | I hate rebuilding raid arrays | 20:23 |
| Symmetria | especially insanely large ones | 20:23 |
| magespawn | That's 10 or 11 hours | 20:26 |
| magespawn | I am off, later all. | 20:28 |
| Kilos | toods magespawn sleep tight | 20:28 |
| Kilos | i go catch so zzzz's to. night all. sleep tight | 20:30 |
| kbmonkey | gc: tell kilos and magespawn goodnight | 20:34 |
| gc | kbmonkey: Yessir | 20:34 |
| opensauce | Good Evening PPL :) | 21:37 |
| kbmonkey | gc: tell magespawn a greeter bot may be handy if it sees newcomers enter in dead rooms. we miss them and they leave after 3 minutes. idea? | 22:02 |
| gc | kbmonkey: Done | 22:02 |
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