[00:00] <happyface> How do I change the icon theme for the upper right icons? (volume, wifi, bluetooth, etc)
[00:01] <zyzhang> nick zyzhang
[00:03] <hiexpo> hola all
[00:06] <mirko1> happyface: they are not in a seperate theme, you have to copy the  whole current icon theme to your $HOME/.icons directory, identify the icons used, and replace them with what you want to have.
[00:09] <Djangosoul> is someone ale to help me because those fools at puppy ant
[00:09] <Djangosoul> ant
[00:09] <Djangosoul> cant
[00:09] <Djangosoul> damn c key
[00:11] <happyface> mirko1: thanks! I messed those up on this machine awhile ago (havnet used it since) and forgot how I did it.
[00:12] <Zoaruki> installing wireless drivers can be a real headache :/
[00:13] <mirko1> Djangosoul: yes, we can help you reparing your lawn mower. seriously, just ask your question, we might or might not be able to help. and please don't insult other people who try to help you
[00:20] <Hemebond> Does anyone know of a good article on how to hibernate to swap file in Ubuntu 11.10?
[00:20] <Zoaruki> is there anybody with knowledge about ndiswrapper?
[00:22] <modelo_> hola
[00:22] <Zoaruki> modelo_: es un canal en ingles
[00:22] <dlentz> Zoaruki, i used to use it
[00:23] <modelo_> what
[00:23] <Roasted> Random question - is wine a memory hog?
[00:23] <Roasted> I'm running teamviewer and this rig is eating up 1.5 GB. I got to wondering if teamviewer (which uses wine) is eating it all up
[00:23] <modelo_> where are you from?
[00:23] <Zoaruki> modelo_: it's just i thought you were going to start talking in spanish as hola means hello :p
[00:24] <modelo_> zoaruki you are woman'
[00:24] <Zoaruki> dlentz: it's just i can't get connected to the network
[00:25] <Zoaruki> dlentz: it's kinda hard (and long) to explain here, and that's why I created a thread in the forums
[00:25] <dlentz> okay, so you have the driver installed and lspci/lshw shows ndiswrapper as the wireless driver?
[00:25] <mirko1> Roasted: mabe teamviewer, maybe wine, impossible to tell withoug more info. if it's wine, it's a bug and you should report it. btw. teamviewer has AFAIK also a linux version
[00:25] <dlentz> Zoaruki, well, linky linky
[00:25] <Zoaruki> dlentz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1945815
[00:25] <Zoaruki> dlentz: see if you can do something :p
[00:26] <Roasted> mirko1, the "linux version" comes packaged with wine.
[00:26] <Zoaruki> modelo_: no, i'm not.
[00:26] <Zoaruki> modelo_: why do you ask? lol
[00:26] <bob921> tify 32167
[00:26] <OmegaApex> hy
[00:27] <modelo_> you sister lol zauriki?
[00:27] <OmegaApex> I love Ubuntu!!!
[00:27] <mirko1> Roasted: ah, ok, didn't realized that, I suggest you report to the wine folks.
[00:27] <modelo_> i'm sorry, see you to morrow
[00:27] <Roasted> Hm, this makes no sense. System monitor says this rig is only eating 275 MB of RAM, yet free -m in terminal says Mem:          2001        761       1240 for total/used/free
[00:27] <Roasted> I guess teamviewer/wine isnt a hog at all after all...
[00:28] <Zoaruki> modelo_: i don't know what you are talking about D:
[00:29] <dlentz> Zoaruki, so you have a broadcom and there's no native linux driver? what kind of broadcom?
[00:30] <Zoaruki> dlentz, 802.11g
[00:31] <dlentz> i was referring to the model number (like bcm4313)
[00:31] <mirko1> Roasted: free shows the memory usage including internal buffers and caches. look at the -/+ buffers/cache:  line
[00:33] <Roasted> mirko1, oh... http://i.imgur.com/8Mvbw.png
[00:33] <Roasted> mirko1, so the 288 underneath the 783 is what I need to look at?
[00:33] <Seveas> Roasted, yeah
[00:33] <Roasted> oh, well imagine that.
[00:33] <Roasted> thanks Seveas and mirko1 !
[00:33] <Seveas> "Mem" = in used by programs and the filesystem cache
[00:34] <Seveas> "+/- buffers" = just programs
[00:34] <Roasted> so system monitor only reports buffers/cache?
[00:35] <Zoaruki_> my connection reseted o.o
[00:35] <Seveas> Roasted, it reports onlt values from that line (which means everything except buffers/cache)
[00:36] <dlentz> Zoaruki, i was aasking for model number of wireless chipset (lspci should show it)
[00:37] <Roasted> Seveas, I'm not seeing how I have identical numbers in system monitors and buffers/cache (free -m) if system monitor shows everything EXCEPT buffers/cache
[00:37] <Roasted> Seveas, then again I never knew there was a difference. I always just assumed system monitor showed everything.
[00:38] <Seveas> Roasted, the line says +/- buffers/cache. It means "all memory used not in buffers/cache"
[00:38] <Seveas> yes, this should be clearer :)
[00:38] <Seveas> Roasted, drop the filesystem caches (this is safe) to confitm
[00:38] <Seveas> echo 2 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[00:38] <dlentz> Roasted, it's a very common error, so you're not the only one that finds it unintuitive
[00:49] <DoomCucumber> hoi
[00:50] <gonyere> so, i have a question about which vs of ubuntu i should be downloading
[00:51] <Matr|x> how do i got repo file to remove some index
[00:51] <Matr|x> ?
[00:51] <gonyere> i have an intel core i5 system, which I think came w/ win 7 64 bit(I never booted it - I just wiped it an installed ubuntu)
[00:52] <gonyere> so which do i download? AMD64 or i386?
[00:52] <Matr|x> AMD64
[00:52] <Matr|x> :)
[00:52] <SBC33> AND64 = 64 bit i486 = 32 bit
[00:52] <SBC33> err i386
[00:52] <gonyere> thats what i thought
[00:52] <Matr|x> :)
[00:53] <gonyere> i've tried both an had them hang
[00:53] <gonyere> so now i'm gonna try the alternative cd, an see how that goes :)
[00:53] <gonyere> but its gonna take all night, so i'd rather not download it a 4th time :P
[00:55] <Astidcrisse>  gasp
[00:55] <Roasted> Seveas, sorry, had to step away.
[00:56] <Roasted> Seveas, so, long story short, point blank. If I want to see the EXACT memory usage that is reported by system monitor, am I looking at buffers/cache?
[00:56] <Guest83371> gitiuztuzo
[00:56] <Roasted> Seveas, I almost would have to be, as on 3 different linux systems I just checked, system monitor's RAM usage is identical to -/+ buffers/cache.
[00:58] <Scott_Z> I need to shrink my windows in order to install ubuntu. I remember about parted from a long time ago. is there a windows version to do this? please treat me as a newbie.
[00:59] <SBC33> NO Scott. Boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD. The version of Gparted that runs during install can do that for you.
[01:00] <Scott_Z> sbc33, i have tried that but there does not seem to be a provision to shrink my windows partition. I do not have a backup so I am really scared about doing this.
[01:00] <Roasted> Scott_Z, gparted is as good as you can get with partitioning utilities. I'd easily trust it with my life over anything that Windows has to offer.
[01:00] <Roasted> Scott_Z, then, back your stuff up. Everybody should have their data backed up, regardless.
[01:00] <Roasted> Scott_Z, only takes 1 hard drive to tank to completely ruin your day/week
[01:00] <mirko1> Roasted: yes, the system monitor shows the actual memory usage of the programs, just like free's -/+ buffer ... line. the buffers and the cache are dynamically increased/decreased by the kernel and they basically consume all free RAM available, so they are not a meaningful value to measure the memory consumption of the programs
[01:01] <SBC33> In Gparted, you have to click on your Windows partition, then click the "Change" button.
[01:01] <Scott_Z> i am booted up on my live cd right now. can I do it from here?
[01:01] <Roasted> Scott_Z, yes, open gparted. its in the live cd.
[01:01] <Scott_Z> I know. i know.
[01:01] <gonyere> idk, i have an ancient vs of parition magic that works like a charm :)
[01:01] <SBC33> Yes. Restart it and go far enough into the install procedire that Gparted comes up.
[01:01] <gonyere> its on floppies :p
[01:02] <Scott_Z> found gparted. will give it a try. thanks for all the help
[01:04] <Scott_Z> I have about 100gig free. any recommendation on sizes for swap drives and such. I figured about 50 gig total.
[01:06] <mirko1> Scott_Z: depends on how you plan to use the system, just an extremely rough guideline: 10-30 GB for /, 0.5 - 1 times the size of your RAM (the more RAM, the less swap), all the rest for /home
[01:07] <Scott_Z> sounds like a good place to start. thanks
[01:10] <Red_X> anyone here want to help a new ubuntu user?
[01:10] <dlentz> Red_X, ask away
[01:10] <Red_X> ok so im having wifi issues im on a dell =/
[01:11] <Red_X> i instaled what i thought would fix it a sta firmware thing and well im lost
[01:11] <dlentz> have you checked for 'additional drivers'?
[01:11] <Red_X> yes
[01:12] <Red_X> its there, but i cant get it to be used i ran something in terminal earler it said wifi was hard and soft blocked
[01:12] <dlentz> did you try to unnlock it with rfkill?
[01:12] <Red_X> no, idk what that command is
[01:13] <dlentz> iirc, the command is: sudo rfkill unblock all
[01:14] <Red_X> i just ran it it asked sudo pass entered it and it did nothing was it sopose to do anything
[01:17] <dlentz> see if "rfkill list all" still shows it blocked
[01:18] <codeshah> I want to run a shell command multiple times, each time passing in a variable from a return list of another command
[01:18] <codeshah> how can I do this?
[01:18] <Red_X> ok
[01:18] <codeshah> so command 1 returns a few values… each on a different line…
[01:18] <codeshah> and want to run command 2 passing those in, those many times
[01:19] <Red_X> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[01:19] <Red_X> 	Soft blocked: yes
[01:19] <Red_X> 	Hard blocked: yes
[01:23] <dlentz> Red_X, not really sure what to tell you about the hard block (there's no wireless switch on your laptop, right?)
[01:23] <Red_X> no not that i can find i bought it off craigslist not to long ago
[01:24] <Red_X> well there is something on the right im going to play with it never thought of that...thanks =]
[01:24] <Red_X> ugh that turns the bluetooth light on lol
[01:25] <SBC33> Red, a suggestion, when you have some time - Google the laptop's model number and ubuntu, see if you get any suggestions.
[01:25] <Red_X> thanks
[01:25] <mirko1>  codeshah: probably xargs or process substitution, ie.:  "command1 | xargs command2" or "command2 $(command1)"
[01:26] <SBC33> I wish we had the solution, but we don't know a;ll.
[01:26] <codeshah> mirko1: thanks the second one is not working since I have to pass in one at a time
[01:27] <ksbalaji> Hello friends! On updating I get ufw -WARN is world writable! Hw to correct this please?
[01:27] <Red_X> its all good im a idiot sometimes
[01:27] <Red_X> there is multipal threads that pop up on php boards
[01:27] <Red_X> same comuter same issue marked solved
[01:27] <Red_X> <3 you guys
[01:27] <mirko1> codeshah: then it's xargs "command1 | xargs -n1 command2" or a for loop
[01:27] <codeshah> thanks
[01:27] <SBC33> Well, seeing it marked solved is encouraging.
[01:27] <Red_X> is there any good rooms to idel/talk in on this network im normaly a lurker on gamesurge
[01:27] <codeshah> mirko1: that seems to be working
[01:28] <SBC33> You can lurk here, I think. I do.
[01:28] <haux> Long story short, I can't get into x. I need to re-install fglrx from the command prompt. Problem: when I access the command prompt from the recovery option in grub, it will not mount /var (located on another partition). I also cannot mount it manually because it does not detect /dev/sdb4. Therefore, I cannot sudo apt-get install fglrx. What are my options to get /var mounted?
[01:29] <Ovizu> How do i optimize a new display?
[01:29] <Ovizu> my docks disappeared and the screen looks abit misplace
[01:29] <Ovizu> misplaced
[01:29] <Ovizu> how do you bring back the original side navigation dock?
[01:30] <SBC33> How did you get it to disappear?
[01:30] <OmegaApex> :))
[01:30] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, system>preferences>monitor
[01:30] <phillijw> Hi best friends! How can I open a second xterm?
[01:31] <Ovizu> ksbalaji,  where is that?
[01:31] <SBC33> I ended up getting sick of Unity, and falling back to Gnome's UI.
[01:31] <haux> No suggestions for my issue?
[01:32] <SBC33> No idea here Haux, but I'm still new.
[01:32] <haux> Alright
[01:32] <gonyere> do a full install
[01:32] <Ovizu> ksbalaji,  where is that exactly?
[01:32] <haux> This channel has been slow today.
[01:33] <ksbalaji> Oh! all lost? someone else could help. I do it by selecting from top panel.
[01:33] <S0C7> I'm having a problem with evolution.  It's not sending mail.  It receives OK.
[01:33] <dlentz> haux, why does it not see sdb4? does fdisk see it>?
[01:33] <SBC33> Ovizu, in the upper left hand, where it says Applications, left click. Then click System, then, System Settings. Click Monitor in the program that comes up.
[01:34] <phillijw> seriously, why do I have to ask how to open a 2nd xterm window? this is nauseating
[01:34] <Ovizu> i dont have APplications on the top left
[01:34] <haux> dlentz, I don't have the slightest idea. I didn't check fdisk.
[01:34] <Ovizu> I have file Edit View GO BOokmarks Help
[01:34] <haux> I guess I can go back and check it
[01:35] <SBC33> No menu item that looks like an orange-ish circle either?
[01:35] <S0C7> phillijw: Do you have a toolbar?
[01:36] <phillijw> S0C7: I have the default setup for ubuntu 11
[01:36] <Ovizu> I got an APplications Menu And a Shortcuts Menu
[01:36] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, do you have a special key between alt and ctrl? pressing it may help.
[01:36] <S0C7> That's the release I'm on. We'll get this thing solved.
[01:36] <Ovizu> yes but nothing happens ksbalaji
[01:36] <SBC33> Good. Is "System Tools" under "Applications"
[01:37] <SBC33> ?
[01:37] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, go to edit and close it.
[01:37] <S0C7> Do you have a toolbar?  It has icons for programs that you use.
[01:37] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, wait!
[01:37] <S0C7> phillijw: ^
[01:37] <phillijw> S0C7: on the left? yeah
[01:37] <Ovizu> hold on let me upload
[01:37] <S0C7> Is there one with a >_ in a black square box?
[01:38] <S0C7> If so, right click on it.
[01:38] <phillijw> S0C7: yepper
[01:38] <Ovizu> http://s17.postimage.org/relgwvmu5/Screenshot_at_2012_03_24_03_37_33.png
[01:38] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, probably are you on full screen on some app?
[01:39] <Ovizu> screen is not optimized for proper resolution
[01:39] <Ovizu> i dont actually see eveyrhing in that picture
[01:40] <Ovizu> its a resolution problem i think
[01:40] <Ovizu> how do i optimize the resolution?
[01:40] <S0C7> phillijw: Did you right click on the icon?  There should be a box with 4 options.  The top one is "New Terminal"  Click on that one.
[01:40] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, if you move pointer to top you may get the top panel wherein you see System to click.
[01:41] <phillijw> S0C7: thats not an option. I only have 3
[01:41] <Ovizu> ksbalaji,  it doesnt say system at the top
[01:42] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, can open a terminal box?
[01:42] <Ovizu> yes
[01:42] <S0C7> phillijw: OK...Go to the top icon, the one that's like a Ubunto logo.
[01:42] <S0C7> phillijw: It's Dash Home
[01:43] <Ovizu> ksbalaji,  yes i can
[01:44] <Ovizu> ksbalaji, what do I do?
[01:44] <S0C7> phillijw: Click on it.  I'm looking for the icon to start a terminal.
[01:44] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, sudo gnome-display-properties
[01:45] <Ovizu> ksbalaji, command not found
[01:45] <Soloco> hello
[01:45] <phillijw> S0C7: I can find xterm but not sure what to do with it
[01:45] <S0C7> phillijw: Click on "More Apps" and select All.  The all is in the upper right hand corner.
[01:46] <Ovizu> how do i optimize screen resolution?
[01:46] <dlentz> phillijw, alt+F2, then run bash?
[01:46] <S0C7> phillijw: Then you're not familiar with the command-line interface (CLI)?
[01:46] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, may be you miss spelt? try keying tab after keying a few letters like gno <tab> you get auto fill.
[01:47] <S0C7> phillijw: Believe me, you can do more with a command-line interface than the GUI :-)
[01:47] <phillijw> S0C7: oh, I am. Do you know how I can launch a term from the toolbar instead of going through the menus?
[01:47] <phillijw> the "new term" thing you described is actually what I would like
[01:48] <S0C7> phillijw: Drag and drop the xterm icon from the Dash Home to your tool bar.
[01:48] <dlentz> Ovizu, pastebin your /var/log/XOrg.0.log if this doesn't help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[01:48] <S0C7> phillijw: ...I hope this works...
[01:48] <Ovizu> ksbalaji,  i dont have that command the closest one is gnome-dictionary
[01:49] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, can u apt-get that?
[01:49] <S0C7> phillijw: You may get it after the drag and drop...I hope so.
[01:49] <Ovizu> meaning?
[01:49] <dlentz> phillijw, if you find unity frustrating, try xfce/xubuntu
[01:49] <phillijw> S0C7: doesnt work... oh well, not the biggest deal in the world. I can figure this out later
[01:50] <phillijw> dlentz: I used to use xfce and liked it. It's been a while though
[01:50] <S0C7> phillijw: k
[01:50] <Ovizu> dlentz,  http://pastebin.com/fpFFqGfr
[01:50] <S0C7> phillijw: I believe you're spun around and pointed in the right direction.
[01:50] <Ovizu> here is my /var/log/XOrg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/fpFFqGfr
[01:51] <phillijw> S0C7: thanks
[01:51] <dlentz> Ovizu, what resolution are you tring for?
[01:51] <Ovizu> dlentz, one that works..
[01:51] <Ovizu> and looks good
[01:52] <Ovizu> How do I restore ubuntu's original sidebar
[01:52] <Ovizu> the dock
[01:53] <dlentz> Ovizu, do you have a crt monitor?
[01:53] <Ovizu> no
[01:53] <dlentz> do you know what your monitor's native resolution is?
[01:54] <Ovizu> i think 1024*768
[01:54] <Ovizu> looks good on windows
[01:55] <S0C7> I can't get evolution to send mail to gmail.  Thunderbird works, and I duplicated its settings...at least I believe I did.
[01:55] <Ovizu> how do I restore the original side dock though?
[01:55] <Ovizu> the one on the left side
[01:56] <PatrickC> ok.. my GUI crashed, I'm in the cmd line via ctrl+alt+f1.. how to I reboot the gui?
[01:56] <PatrickC> without rebooting the system
[01:56] <dlentz> Ovizu, your log is using 1024 768. so what's the issue?
[01:56] <S0C7> Does IMAP handle both sending and receiving?
[01:56] <dlentz> PatrickC, sudo service lightdm restart
[01:56] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, try sudo gnome-panel
[01:56] <Ovizu> dont have panel either
[01:57] <PatrickC> S0C7: I think IMAP uses SMTP for sending
[01:57] <PatrickC> thanks dlentz!
[01:57] <gp5st> how can i move a logfile and have the program recreate it and write to the new one so that i can compress the old one?
[01:57] <S0C7> PatrickC: That's what I thought.
[01:57] <ksbalaji> Ovizu, if in a terminal if you type gnome-panel and enter, what happens?
[01:58] <Ahiles> hi
[01:58] <S0C7> PatrickC: But it just sits there, sending, and sending, and sending.  When I cancel it, it cancels, and cancels, and cancels.  kill -9 gets its attention.
[01:59] <PatrickC> S0C7: I'm probably not the best person to ask about that.. sorry
[01:59] <PatrickC> hmm.. I hate java.. can never get it to work in chromium...
[01:59] <S0C7> PatrickC: k.  Thanks.  I appreciate the help.
[01:59] <PatrickC> np
[02:00] <itaylor57> PatrickC, i use the oracle java plugin in chromium
[02:00] <Strav> Hi. I'm trying to install a 2.6.36 kernel compiled without module support on ubuntu 10.04 and I'm having a few issues. First, update-initramfs complains that it cannot find the modules in /lib/modules/myKernel which is normal since I don't have any modules; mkdir mykernelversion works around this. Then however, after having updated grub, I'm getting kernel panics. So, anyone familiar with module-less kernel installs on ubuntu?
[02:00] <PatrickC> itaylor57, i cant get that one to work
[02:01] <PatrickC> it always complanes that it is out of date
[02:01] <S0C7> PatrickC: I'd prefer to believe that Java's problems are not related to its ownership by Oracls.
[02:01] <PatrickC> so i tried to install openjdk7, and then the iced tea plugin, and chromium is still having a cow
[02:01] <ksbalaji>  On updating I get ufw -WARN is world writable! Hw to correct this please?
[02:02] <PatrickC> so.. i hate to do it, but im installing Chrome :/
[02:02] <phillijw> why do you hate to do it?
[02:03] <PatrickC> i prefer to use Chromium
[02:03] <PatrickC> and not Chrome
[02:03] <phillijw> is one a fork of the other?
[02:04] <PatrickC> Chrome is google, Chromium is the open-source alternative to Chrome
[02:05] <collinjsimpson> Chromium is an element in the periodic table that doesn't obey standard electron orbital rules.
[02:05] <collinjsimpson> Just if you wanted to know.
[02:05] <PatrickC> lol
[02:06] <xangua> phillijw: PatrickC Chromium is the open source web browser project from which Google Chrome draws its source code
[02:08] <PatrickC> which came first, chrome or chromium?
[02:09] <dorin> goodevening people, !! anybody can help me with my nvidia?
[02:13] <PatrickC> hmm... chrome cant detect the version of java on my computer
[02:14] <phn> where did u install java from?
[02:15] <PatrickC> cmd line
[02:15] <PatrickC> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre openjdk-7-jre
[02:15] <PatrickC> then ubuntu software center for icedtea
[02:15] <econnell> so i'm having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1688505
[02:15] <phn> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:16] <phn> what does this say?
[02:16] <econnell> i'd love to report a bug, but the backtraces are going to be useless for anyone involved
[02:17] <PatrickC> phn, http://pastebin.com/CcnG46pE
[02:17] <econnell> on 11.10 and 12.04beta, i have the same problem.. the nvidia drivers crash X
[02:17] <econnell> i *think* i tried 11.04 as well, with the same problem
[02:17] <econnell> is there any way that i can report a bug with useful information on this issue?
[02:18] <econnell> 10.04 works perfectly btw
[02:18] <phn> purge remove the installed packages and follow these instructions http://superuser.com/questions/353983/how-do-i-install-the-sun-java-sdk-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneric
[02:18] <phn> worked great for me
[02:19] <PatrickC> ok, well.. how do i purge remove them? :)
[02:19] <meadhikari> Hey, What is the keyboard shortcut to make a window "Always on Top"
[02:19]  * PatrickC is still new to ubuntu
[02:19] <jdmshiz> Having trouble to gnome working properly. When I log into gnome the top dock is seems blurry, pixels & text all messed up. Is this a common problem?
[02:19] <phn> sudo apt-get --purge remove
[02:19] <phn> and the names of the packages
[02:22] <ameta> morning all
[02:22] <PatrickC> hello ameta
[02:23] <PatrickC> i have to say, i like installing things much more in ubuntu
[02:23] <PatrickC> but i do still like windows for some things
[02:24] <ameta> any someone can help me,,,i have something problem,i can't use theme shell,,any solution
[02:25] <ameta> http://goo.gl/qy9M3
[02:28] <PatrickC> phn, when i visit this page http://javatester.org/version.html it still does not show me what the version of java im running is
[02:29] <phn> what does java --version say?
[02:30] <PatrickC> patrick@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ java -version
[02:30] <PatrickC> java version "1.6.0_26"
[02:30] <PatrickC> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
[02:30] <PatrickC> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
[02:30] <FloodBot1> PatrickC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:30] <PatrickC> crap.. nopaste lol
[02:30] <PatrickC> well, it says that :P
[02:30] <Xero00> hello all
[02:30] <PatrickC> hey Xero00
[02:31] <Xero00> i have a laptop that refuses to cooperate lol
[02:31] <PatrickC> lol
[02:31] <PatrickC> i have one of those right now..
[02:31] <Xero00> well i have 3 toshibas
[02:31] <PatrickC> mine is gateway
[02:31] <PatrickC> but it isnt liking java
[02:31] <PatrickC> or ubuntu
[02:31] <PatrickC> or me lol
[02:31] <Xero00> the netbook which i'm currently using runs BT5
[02:31] <phn> Patrick did u try another browser?
[02:31] <phn> restart chrome?
[02:32] <PatrickC> phn, no.. i did restart chromium though
[02:32] <Xero00> my other 17" runs lucid
[02:32] <phn> it's weird because chrome is supposed to have built-in java
[02:32] <Xero00> and this new one will not load any of the above lol
[02:32] <Xero00> ^^
[02:32] <Xero00> what do u have goin on pat?
[02:32] <PatrickC> cant get java to work for me
[02:33] <Xero00> like at all?
[02:33] <Xero00> install or
[02:33] <phn> did u remove openjdk7?
[02:33] <phn> you don't need both sun vm and openjdk
[02:34] <PatrickC> i removed openjdk7 with sudo apt-get --purge remove openjdk-7-jre
[02:34] <PatrickC> i have restarted both chromium and chrome, as well as went to about:plugins and enabled both the icedtea plugin and the official java one
[02:34] <phn> also run sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[02:34] <phn> well don't enable both
[02:35] <phn> duh
[02:35] <PatrickC> heh.. u might have a point there lol
[02:35] <phn> and don't install everything
[02:35] <phn> just the necessary packages
[02:36] <PatrickC> nope.. i disabled the icedtea plugin, restarted, and ran sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[02:36] <PatrickC> no go still
[02:36] <PatrickC> hmm...
[02:36] <PatrickC> could it be in running 1.6.0_26 when 1.6.0_37 is the latest?
[02:36] <phn> are you on 11.10?
[02:37] <PatrickC> 1.6.0_32*
[02:37] <PatrickC> yes
[02:37] <phn> i'm running 0_23 and it's all good
[02:37] <PatrickC> hmm.. we arent running the same versions
[02:38] <Xero00> ga hthis laptop is about to meet the wall
[02:38] <PatrickC> Xero00, im with u
[02:38] <PatrickC> they havent met in a long time...
[02:38] <PatrickC> lol
[02:38] <Xero00> more like the windows disk in the garage but still
[02:38] <phn> actually it's 0_30
[02:38] <phn> but still
[02:38] <PatrickC> i just need to reboot to get to windows 7 or 8
[02:38] <phn> should be the same
[02:38] <Xero00> would be nice to have all the machines in the house on some form of 'buntu
[02:38] <PatrickC> phn, yeah... this is really odd
[02:39] <phn> dunno, make sure you installed it correctly from the ppa
[02:39] <PatrickC> how would i check?
[02:39] <phn> sorry i can't help you more
[02:39]  * PatrickC thinks its time to reboot to windows for now
[02:39] <itaylor57> PatrickC, 26 is the latest available via ppa
[02:39] <PatrickC> itaylor57, ok..
[02:40] <PatrickC> well, the thing is no matter what i try and do it wont work
[02:40] <phn> have you tried running a jar?
[02:40] <PatrickC> nope
[02:40] <phn> see if it works at all?
[02:40] <PatrickC> dont have any downloaded to check it with.. lemme try one
[02:40] <phn> minecraft
[02:40] <jiltdil> Pardon me!  I am asking a off topic question. Please suggest me some good laptop under  50k. Is toshiba better or i should go for Dell XPS series or any other please suggest. Thanks
[02:41] <Xero00> all i own are otshibas
[02:41] <PatrickC> jiltdil, u can buy just about any laptop under $50,000 lol
[02:41] <Xero00> but this latest one is really grinding my gears lol
[02:41] <phn> http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4625/fcpvu.jpg
[02:42] <xangua> !ot | phn jiltdil
[02:42] <PatrickC> phn, java -jar ran my jarfile perfectly
[02:42] <phn> then your problem must be with the plugins
[02:43] <PatrickC> thats what im thinking
[02:43] <phn> try removing them and leaving icedtea
[02:43] <PatrickC> i have a friend who works at Canonical, ill talk to him later
[02:43] <u-max> PatrickC, really? How's the pay and work schedule there?
[02:43] <PatrickC> u-max, not sure.. hes just an internet friend, but ive known him for over a year :)
[02:44] <u-max> Well that's pretty cool.
[02:44] <PatrickC> really cool guy. he helped me on a few of my mobile apps that i build
[02:45] <PatrickC> phn, removed the sun-java6-plugin and left icedtea and still a nogo
[02:46] <PatrickC> im gonna reboot to windows for now and fix this later. i have some websites i need to use that are java :/
[02:46] <PatrickC> thanks for the help itaylor57 and phn
[02:47] <jdmshiz> Having problems with gnome graphics on the top dock. Is it a common problem?
[02:48] <u-max> Sweet FSM, there's a lot of join/quit spam.
[02:50] <phn> patrick this is my list of java related packages
[02:50] <phn> http://pastebin.com/Z86kL10t
[02:50] <phn> check to see if anything is missing from your system
[02:52]  * u-max gets the fuck out
[02:56] <phn> jdmshiz: try xfce
[02:57] <escott> jdmshiz, ive seen it with ati's drivers
[02:58] <jdmshiz> escott: Yeah i'm running an ati video card...
[02:58] <jdmshiz> phn: I'll look up xfce right now and see how it looks
[02:58] <jdmshiz> phn: its another shell right? or a fix? lol..
[02:59] <escott> jdmshiz, it would go away with radeonhd driver instead of fglrx. maybe also the next iteration of the drivers will work correctly
[02:59] <phn> it's a window manager like gnome
[03:00] <jdmshiz> escott: Are you saying to install a radeonHD graphics driver? I'm running a laptop so I don't have any idea on how to change the video card.
[03:00] <jdmshiz> escott: It works the same?
[03:00] <jdmshiz> phn: thanks ill check it out right now
[03:01] <escott> jdmshiz, radeonhd is the open source driver. the problem is with the fglrx driver (installed through jockey)
[03:01] <jdmshiz> excott: Ahh yes.. an error occurs brining up a jockey file when i try install my ati update. Thanks will look into the radeon driver
[03:04] <uglyoldbob> I think my usb mouse is having problems. Sometimes single clicking acts just like double clicking. Double-clicking might end up in a quadruple click.
[03:04] <uglyoldbob> Is this bad hardware or a strange software setting?
[03:04] <jdmshiz> escott: didn't realize radeon & ati were the same company hahah xD
[03:05] <escott> jdmshiz, technically ati is not a company anymore
[03:10] <collinjsimpson> Where's a good place to mount a second hard drive?
[03:12] <rmrf> collinjsimpson: /mnt/xxx?
[03:12] <PyramidHe> uglyoldbob, if it happens sometimes, it's totally hardware
[03:12] <collinjsimpson> rmrf, Ok thanks. Derp.
[03:12] <uglyoldbob> where might i "debounce" my mouse clicks?
[03:13] <desrt> uglyoldbob: i don't think that's possible
[03:13] <ome> How do you set the window focuse mode (sloopy,hover,click) under gnome3 ?
[03:13] <desrt> ome: install gnome-tweak-tool
[03:13] <PsychoX75> hi... Is there any FTP servers in ubuntu which handles it's own table of users/rights? Separately from Ubuntu?
[03:14] <desrt> under "Windows" section there is "Window focus mode"
[03:15] <ome> desrt: cheers.
[03:15] <ome> I had change it a while ago and could rembmer to change it again.
[03:16] <ome> PsychoX75: not sure, but filezilla I think does it.
[03:16] <mattperry> can someone help me understand how to use a script quoted in an ubuntuforums post:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1273762
[03:16] <stbasil> Has anyone had success using VGA output to a monitor with ubuntu 10 or 11 on a netbook like an acer aspire one? Mine does not work properly
[03:18] <ome> stbasil: how is it not working properly ?
[03:18] <ome> cause it could be something irrelvent to your hardware.
[03:18] <stbasil> ome: displays diagonal bars of the screen in a skewed fashion. I did the same in windows partition and it was fine
[03:19] <escott> stbasil, its a modeline issue
[03:19] <mattperry> trying to batch convert .cbr to .cbz...can anyone help?
[03:19] <stbasil> escott: elaborate please
[03:20] <meadhikari> Hey, What is the keyboard shortcut to make a window "Always on Top"
[03:20] <PsychoX75> Ome: Filezilla has a server?!? I thought only the in windows it has a server. I couldn't find any server-options under it's settings.
[03:20] <escott> stbasil, make sure you are connecting directly vga-vga and not through some kind of adapter, otherwise you have to manually create your modeline
[03:21] <uglyoldbob> so btnx appears to do what i need, just not sure how to set it up to work right
[03:21] <deppy_> I just install lubuntu on a aspire 5315 and it is over heating how to fix this problem. Or how do i updte the firmware
[03:21] <stbasil> escott: it is vga-vga, a single cabel, port to port. i dont know what a modeline is though
[03:22] <escott> stbasil, would it make a difference if i called it a wizzywig? you have a bad modeline. thats your problem
[03:22] <deppy_> anyone knows
[03:23] <ome> PsychoX75: Ah, now that I check it, its windows only as you know.
[03:24] <escott> stbasil, if you were going dvi-dvi you would be in better shape because you would be sure to get edid information
[03:24] <PsychoX75> okay
[03:25] <stbasil> escott: not knowing what a wizzywig is prevents me from knowing how to fix it. and i do not have a dvi port to use
[03:25] <PsychoX75> so i have to assume that it's standard that FTP servers check the user-list of Ubuntu?  damn!
[03:26] <escott> stbasil, you are going to have to look some of this up on your own. i can only tell you what is wrong, you will have to experiment to get the solution. when you are searching search for modelines and modeline generators. ignore stuff related to the kernel boot parameters (which is a new modeline issue but not your modeline issue)
[03:27] <stbasil> escott: so basically stick to windows. got it.
[03:28] <mattperry> can someone explain how to use a script quoted in ubuntuforums?
[03:29] <schnuffle> mattperry: what script?
[03:31] <ome> PsychoX75: not really, I am sure there is some that doesn't.
[03:31] <mattperry> schnuffle: at bottom of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1273762
[03:32] <schnuffle> mattperry: you open an editor, paste the conntend in it, make the file executable, run it
[03:33] <geek0091> im drooling right now
[03:33] <ome> PsychoX75: http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/README.MySQL
[03:34] <bazhang> !ot | geek0091
[03:35] <PsychoX75> ome: neat... tx
[03:35] <ome> no problem.
[03:36] <mattperry> schnuffle:tried to run in the folder with my .cbr files and nothing happens
[03:36] <escott> mattperry, just run the lines of the script one by one and see what each does
[03:37] <schnuffle> it must be called with a filename as parameter
[03:37] <ome> mattperry: duh. I think you even don't need the script.
[03:38] <ome> run `cbr2cbz *.cbr` in the directory from a terminal and you should be fine.
[03:38] <schnuffle> that wont work
[03:39] <ome> schnuffle: why not ?
[03:40] <schnuffle> because it will not convert every file one after another, it wille first unrar all files and the packe all together
[03:41] <wastrel> convert what now?
[03:43] <mattperry> tried "for a in *.cbr;do cbr2cbz "$a";done" and get cbr2cbz command not found
[03:43] <schnuffle> do saved the script under the name cbr2cbz? is the script in the actual directory?
[03:43] <escott> mattperry, you need to have the cbr2cbz script in your $PATH or in your current working directory
[03:44] <share> !precise
[03:46] <mattperry> schnuffle: saved script as cbr2cbz in same folder as the .cbr files I want to convert
[03:46] <schnuffle> and did a chmod +x cbr2cbz?
[03:46] <mattperry> yes
[03:47] <schnuffle> then try  for a in *.cbr;do ./cbr2cbz "$a";done"
[03:47] <schnuffle> then try  for a in *.cbr;do ./cbr2cbz "$a";done
 that was the ticket...don't know why I didn't think about that...thanks
[03:49] <schnuffle> your welcome
[03:50] <collinjsimpson> Anyone know why
[03:50] <collinjsimpson> *Anyone know why I'm getting permission denied for certain entries in fstab when I do 'mount -a'
[03:51] <schnuffle> collinjsimpson: check the permissions of the mount point
[03:51] <collinjsimpson> the mount point is u+rwx
[03:51] <collinjsimpson> schnuffle, the mount point is u+rwx
[03:52] <schnuffle> and which user is it? do you execute mount as root?
[03:52] <collinjsimpson> schnuffle, Yes. I'm mounting as root.
[03:55] <escoler> ola
[03:55] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: what type of file system is it that has the mount problem?  ntfs?
[03:56] <collinjsimpson> I'm mounting is as 'fuse'.
[03:56] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, I'm mounting it as 'fuse'.
[03:56] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: I"m not sure fuse is a file system type is it ext4?
[03:57] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, I understand that 'fuse' is not a filesystem, but it's specified in 'bindfs' documentation for shared privileges.
[03:58] <cmcintosh> im trying to setup an eclipse see2 uv150 external usb video card, anyone got suggestions on configuring it for xwindows
[03:58] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: so you don't know what file system type your trying to mount in fuse?
[03:59] <leftyfb> Anyone know how to re-enable the hightlight-to-copy-to-clipboard?
[03:59] <CellTech> BlackBerry Bold 9000 will no longer mount as mass storage device after I orphaned my system. What might I have to reinstall to make this pda device of mine mount again before my orphaned package removal?
[03:59] <escott> collinjsimpson, most of the time you dont want to mount a fuse device as root anyways
[03:59] <wastrel> leftyfb: that's disabled?
[03:59] <leftyfb> in 12.04 it is
[04:00] <wastrel> leftyfb: it's called the x select buffer, that may help your searches
[04:00] <cmcintosh> im using ubuntu 11.10
[04:00] <wastrel> gross if it's gone
[04:00] <collinjsimpson> escott, I'm using shared directories. I need it to automatically mount.
[04:00] <escott> leftyfb, i doubt its gone but increasing applications seem to ignore the select buffer
[04:00] <leftyfb> wastrel: very
[04:02] <leftyfb> oh wait
[04:02] <leftyfb> looks like it's not gone
[04:02] <leftyfb> it was synergy that was breaking the highlighting
[04:05] <dj> my flash is givin problem
[04:05] <Guest73091> in chromium
[04:05] <leftyfb> how so?
[04:06] <dj__> if i install anythng from sofware centre it show no internet connection
[04:06] <leftyfb> what does that havve to fo with flash in chromium?
[04:06] <bazhang> dj__, how is that related to flash
[04:06] <dj__> i have to prob;ems
[04:07] <bazhang> dj__, so install from the terminal
[04:07] <dj__> and i cnt install gnash coz of that prblm
[04:07] <bazhang> dj__, dont install gnash, ever
[04:07] <dj__> but i wnt to fix that sofware centre problem
[04:07] <dj__> how do i fix it
[04:07] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: from this link you can see ntfs-3g is supported in fuse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS-3G  if it's an nfts file system best use ntfs-3g seems ntfs defaults to read only
[04:07] <arlink> i have a script here /usr/lib/node_modules and i want tell it the location of this folder /home/ubuntu/discoverpost/node_modules/jade . how can i do that?
[04:07] <bazhang> dj__, one problem at a time
[04:08] <dj__> ok i am sorry
[04:08] <dj__> first problem is software centre
[04:08] <escott> collinjsimpson, the problem with using ntfs-3g mounted is as root is that the umask will have to be made wide open, because ntfs does not support linux permissions
[04:09] <bazhang> dj__, sudo apt-get update   and sudo apt-get upgrade   from the terminal; pastebin any errors for those two commands to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <bazhang> dj__, do NOT paste in the channel.
[04:09] <morebeer> If a program outputs to the screen (and hangs), but the output cannot be piped, redirected to a file, what is going on?
[04:10] <wastrel> morebeer: sounds like it may be waiting for keyboard input
[04:10] <dh___> yoooo
[04:10] <morebeer> All I can do is ^C
[04:10] <Nach0z> morebeer: the output may be on stderr instead of stdout
[04:10] <morebeer> and I miss a screen full of info; I tried doing 2>&1 but the same thing happens
[04:10] <morebeer> because that's what I was thinking
[04:11] <collinjsimpson> escott, sacarlson, I figured out that I needed to add the 'bindfs#' prefix to my fstab entries in order for them to mount correctly. I'll read up on the links you sent, as they look useful.
[04:11] <Nach0z> try doing 2>test.txt or something
[04:11] <GhostConn> can someone help me out hear? I have created a live cd with opensuse and it boots no problem but the Boot Options setting to run the live cd is blank?
[04:11] <GhostConn> what would i type there to make it run
[04:11] <bazhang> GhostConn, suse? why are you asking here
[04:12] <bazhang> GhostConn, #suse NOT here
[04:12] <dj__> hey i have chrome browser and i hve adobe flash browser . .how do i authenticate sites to use my webcam and mic
[04:12] <morebeer> Nach0z: same thing happens, and test.txt is empty
[04:12] <GhostConn> i have no where else to ask and there's allot of intelligent people within this community, I do apologize
[04:12] <bazhang> dj__, we were dealing with your software center problems. one problem at a time
[04:13] <jeremiah_> Is it possible to put the tool bar on the bottom in 11.10 like  a mac?
[04:13] <bazhang> GhostConn, sure you have somewhere to ask, the suse channel
[04:13] <dj__> actually that is geting upgrade
[04:13] <bazhang> GhostConn, /join #suse
[04:13] <GhostConn> THANKS :)
[04:13] <bazhang> dj__, give us the errors on that. lets deal with one problem at a time
[04:14] <dj__> its still 3% completed it ll take time . .so i thought to ask about it
[04:14] <Nach0z> hm...
[04:14] <Nach0z> I have no ide a<__>
[04:15] <dj__> using terminal i can do but not using software centre
[04:15] <jeremiah_> Is it possible to put the tool bar on the bottom in 11.10 like  a mac?
[04:19] <morebeer> Nach0z: The program (shell script) is using printf to send the output, does that change anything?
[04:20] <GhostConn> thers not a single person on the suse channel lol
[04:21] <bazhang> GhostConn, yes there is.
[04:21] <bazhang> GhostConn, /join #suse , your issue is offtopic here
[04:22] <jeremiah_> Is it possible to put the tool bar on the bottom in 11.10 like  a mac?
[04:23] <bazhang> jeremiah_, I've seen some links on the internet to do that
[04:23] <flipside> I am having problems with Firefox. How do I virus scan my computer?
[04:23] <jeremiah_> bazhang,  I havent seen any
[04:24] <leftyfb> flipside: if you're running ubuntu, you don't have a virus
[04:24] <bazhang> flipside, you dont need to
[04:24] <flipside> Are you sure. Why is firefox showing me crazy things?
[04:24] <Xero> midget porn urls usually do that
[04:25] <Guest15913> ...sorry had to.... was too easy
[04:25] <flipside> http://goo.gl/7DfMS
[04:25] <flipside> dont know how to fix this!!!
[04:25] <flipside> I need to get into CNN
[04:25] <morebeer> chkrootkit
[04:25] <flipside> ?
[04:25] <Guest15913> sounds like it
[04:25] <leftyfb> jeremiah_: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/102233/ubuntuX.png  you mean like that?
[04:26] <bazhang> Guest15913, that is not welcome here. dont repeat it
[04:26] <bazhang> !guidelines > Guest15913
[04:26] <Guest15913> gotcha
[04:26] <Guest15913> just tryin to drop some humor
[04:26] <bazhang> leftyfb, no he's gone.
[04:26] <jeremiah_> leftyfb,  Ya exactly
[04:27] <bazhang> Guest15913, thats the wrong place for it, and its not funny
[04:27] <pi3ch> After removal of U1 WebUI, I cannot sync my notes with Tomdriod!
[04:27] <leftyfb> jeremiah_: I disabled Unity, removed the bottom panel and installed avant-window-navigator from the software center
[04:27] <pi3ch> Tomdrioid authentication: "The connection to the server has failed, please check that the address you entered is correct"
[04:27] <Guest15913> jeremiah can you ping google's DNS directly?
[04:27] <flipside> I think my IRC is acting up too??
[04:28] <jeremiah_> leftyfb,  I am new to 11.10 how do i remove unity?
[04:28] <[[thufir]]> trying to install ctags:  https://gist.github.com/2177836  fails
[04:28] <bazhang> flipside, thats enough.
[04:28] <Guest15913> errr flip i mean
[04:28] <Guest15913> jeremiah theres a good tutorial on it on google
[04:28] <leftyfb> jeremiah_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[04:28] <leftyfb> oh wait
[04:28] <bazhang> !notunity | jeremiah_
[04:28] <leftyfb> hold on
[04:28] <leftyfb> oh
[04:28] <leftyfb> that'll do it too :)
[04:29] <testing> Hi
[04:29] <testing> Is anyone there?
[04:29] <bazhang> testing, yes
[04:29] <leftyfb> nope
[04:29] <leftyfb> only 1371 of us
[04:29] <Guest15913> so how do i identify
[04:29] <bazhang> !register | Guest15913
[04:29] <Guest15913> !register
[04:29] <flipside> bazhang I'm not sure what you mean? All I want to do is get my browser working. I have kids and now they can not use this computer.
[04:30] <bazhang> Guest15913, /join #freenode for that
[04:30] <morebeer> Hurry, he has kids
[04:30] <morebeer> Fix the CNN
[04:30] <scientes> i cant figure out how ubuntuone gets into the gnome system settings
[04:30] <bazhang> flipside, see your PM
[04:30] <scientes> i downloaded the source of ubuntuone-control-panel and i cant find it in there
[04:30] <Guest15913> flip open terminal
[04:30] <bazhang> scientes, try asking in #ubuntuone ?
[04:31] <Guest15913> do ping 8.8.8.8
[04:31] <jeremiah_> One more question, is 12.04 out yet?
[04:31] <flipside> bazhang It just says "hi"
[04:31] <mariandi> list
[04:31] <leftyfb> jeremiah_: no
[04:31] <leftyfb> jeremiah_: April 26th
[04:31] <bazhang> jeremiah_, not until april no
[04:31] <leftyfb> it's in beta 2 right now
[04:31] <jeremiah_> AWWWW
[04:31] <scientes> bazhang, i'm just trying to add my own widget to gnome system settings
[04:31] <leftyfb> you can try it now .. just don't rely on it until it's released
[04:31] <scientes> its not really related to them, but i didn't get any help in #gnome
[04:32] <tempest> ROFL that url was freaking funny.
[04:34] <faryshta> does ubuntu 11.10 support nVidia geforce 8400gs
[04:34] <faryshta> ??
[04:34] <bazhang> faryshta, should do
[04:35] <bazhang> faryshta, check jockey
[04:35] <faryshta> bazhang, whos jockey?
[04:35] <bazhang> faryshta, jockey-gtk
[04:35] <tempest> sup flipside . Do you have any plugins or anything like that in FF?
[04:35] <jonnyXer0> there we go
[04:36] <flipside> tempest How do I know if I have them.
[04:36] <jonnyXer0> firefox tools>add-ons
[04:37] <tempest> flipside omg, Tools -> add-on look for stuff your kids might have added.
[04:37] <jonnyXer0> i missed it flip , did you try to ping the google server
[04:37] <flipside> jonnyXer0 no just when I try the site www.cnn.com I get sent to another site.
[04:37] <faryshta> bazhang, the graphic card is not in my computers, I am seeking if I can install ubuntu on a friends notebook.
[04:38] <jonnyXer0> try to ping the server via terminal
[04:38] <bazhang> faryshta, try a live cd
[04:38] <ooiiooo> what advantages does ubuntu 64-bit have over 32-bit with pae kernel and the other way around? is there a real world performance difference?
[04:38] <jonnyXer0> that will give you a better idea as to where the problem lies
[04:38] <tempest> flipside check your host file
[04:38] <jonnyXer0> some machines wont run 32 and vice versa
[04:38] <collinjsimpson> Does anyone know if 'bindfs' can mount *files* as a filesystem?
[04:39] <jonnyXer0> tempest -thats why i wanted him to ping ;p
[04:39] <jonnyXer0> its rare though
[04:39] <flipside> jonnyXer0 How would I do that ?
[04:39] <jonnyXer0> open terminal
[04:39] <flipside> kk
[04:39] <Hilikus> is it possible to fill up an external harddrive with ISO's o bootable disks and boot from one of them?
[04:39] <jonnyXer0> type ping 8.8.8.8
[04:40] <bazhang> Hilikus, sure, using grub2
[04:40] <jonnyXer0> and see if you get a return
[04:40] <flipside> kk 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=47.5 ms
[04:40] <bazhang> !grub2 | Hilikus check this guide
[04:40] <jonnyXer0> good close that window
[04:40] <flipside> kk
[04:40] <hydrox24> collinjsimpson: what file do you need to mount? If you can use the mount command then just add the "-o loop" option to it.
[04:41] <ooiiooo> if my machine can handle both, which do I pick? ubuntu's download page has a "recommended" behind 32-bit. does this apply to 64-bit machines aswell?
[04:41] <bazhang> ooiiooo, 64
[04:41] <collinjsimpson> hydrox24, I'm mounting a file as a filesystem with 'bindfs' to be able to set quotas for users in shared directories.
[04:41] <jonnyXer0> which buntu are you running flip
[04:41] <ooiiooo> kk, thanks
[04:42] <collinjsimpson> hydrox24, A normal 'mount' doesn't let me share directories.
[04:42] <jonnyXer0> he might have a proxy add
[04:43] <jonnyXer0> dont know off hand of anythin that will do that on buntu though
[04:43] <flipside> jonnyXer0 the newest one.
[04:43] <lsmagalhaes> Hello... I was trying to install JDK7 in my Ubuntu 12.04 (sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk -y --fix-missing), but there's an error =S http://pastebin.com/DsAN2Q6e
[04:43] <jonnyXer0> 11.4
[04:43] <flipside> Yeah
[04:43] <flipside> 04
[04:43] <jonnyXer0> kk let me remember ...
[04:43] <jonnyXer0> i only ran it for a week or so lol
[04:44] <jonnyXer0> does your apt-get still work?
[04:45] <jonnyXer0> or your software center?
[04:45] <flipside> jonnyXer0 I just tried it and a bunch of stuff when by. I had to put in my pw though.
[04:45] <flipside> jonnyXer0 yes they seem to work.
[04:46] <jonnyXer0> hmm that is odd
[04:46] <jonnyXer0> a proxy should affect your apt-get as well
[04:46] <jonnyXer0> but leme dbl check that
[04:47] <flipside> my name seems weird though. It says pwnt@Babylon: my name is not pwnt
[04:47] <hydrox24> lsmagalhaes: go to ubuntu+1 for support for the next version of ubuntu ( in this case 12.04)
[04:47] <jonnyXer0> ok....thats not a good sign
[04:47] <flipside> sry a little B not a big one
[04:47] <flipside> jonnyXer0 what does that mean?
[04:47] <jonnyXer0> sounds like a rootkit
[04:47] <flipside> jonnyXer0 can I fix it?
[04:47] <jonnyXer0> yep
[04:48] <flipside> nice to hear.
[04:48] <jonnyXer0> how old are your kids?
[04:48] <flipside> 8 and 14
[04:48] <bazhang> jonnyXer0, thats not on topic, nor germane
[04:48] <jonnyXer0> the one thing alot of people dont consider is the human factor
[04:48] <flipside> they know a lot more about computers then I do.
[04:49] <jonnyXer0> helps me determine if his problem is from within or without
[04:49] <jonnyXer0> allrighty
[04:49] <flipside> jonnyXer0 they are not angles to be honest. The stuff showing up on my computer is something they would think is funny.
[04:50] <jonnyXer0> do you have seperate logins?
[04:50] <flipside> jonnyXer0 yes but they know my login too
[04:51] <jonnyXer0> well i'll give you an option here, it seems you're probably not too savvy
[04:51] <jonnyXer0> so we can go round this a bit and take a few hours
[04:51] <jonnyXer0> or you could just restore the system with a install CD in < an hour
[04:52] <tempest> flipside just beat your kids ass untill they fix your computer. No way this just happened! Go get em now!
[04:52] <bazhang> tempest, watch the language and stay on topic.
[04:52] <jonnyXer0> i'm willing to help you with either
[04:52] <tempest> Sry all mighty bazhang. Spite me not with your glory and power!
[04:53] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: in this tutorial on edquota I don't see them using fuse in fstab,  did you read anything like this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-journaled-quota-on-debian-lenny
[04:53] <jonnyXer0> it helps me to not want to throw my problematic laptop against the wall
[04:53] <jonnyXer0> hopefully a 64 bit install will help with its problematic chipset
[04:54] <jonnyXer0> flip u still around?
[04:54] <SubstreamAI> is there a keyboard short cut to restart the X server: alt - sys req - k
[04:54] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, I need shared directories, not individual / group quotas. I'm using bindfs to provide sharing features without creating groups for each set of users.
[04:54] <flipside> jonnyXer0 jonney thx for trying to help me out here. Not going to "beat my kids" but I am going to have a little talk with them and find out if they did something.
[04:54] <SubstreamAI> I read that replaces ctr - alt - backspace
[04:54] <geek0091> 64 bit install will only work on 64 bit arch., not with chipset issues
[04:54] <jonnyXer0> it is
[04:54] <jonnyXer0> its the cpu/gpu amd chip
[04:54] <SubstreamAI> but when I tried it, all it did was log me out
[04:54] <jonnyXer0> i've read that 32 gets kinda sluggy on em
[04:55] <jonnyXer0> flip
[04:55] <flipside> yeah
[04:55] <geek0091> why not install the right kernal for the right processor?
[04:55] <jonnyXer0> go into the uinty search and type proxy
[04:55] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, 'bindfs' allows me to explicitly define permissions for all users on a filesystem. Also, all users in a bindfs filesystem have the same permissions. It's much more stable than 'quota tools' for what I need.
[04:55] <jonnyXer0> geek i'm still a bit of a neophyte for that ;p
[04:56] <mezzaluna> might depend on what kind of 64bit system. 32 bit works fine on an athlon64
[04:56] <geek0091> lmao, all good. I just cant stand seeing a 32-bit on a 64 optimized system, makes no d--- sense.
[04:56] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: so maybe your looking at something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1460472
[04:56] <jonnyXer0> yeah i'm droppin 64 on it ;p
[04:56] <flipside> jonnyXer0 OK think I found a proxy thing in FF
[04:56] <geek0091> thank you, personally
[04:56] <jonnyXer0> does it have any entries?
[04:57] <jonnyXer0> if it does get rid of them
[04:57] <flipside> Yes it does.
[04:57] <mobius999> greetings
[04:57] <mobius999> there is a thing which is worrying me :)
[04:57] <mobius999> it appears there is a program called "zeitgeist" running on my linux computer :)
[04:58] <mobius999> and apparently it is on all new linux machines
[04:58] <jonnyXer0> or just click no proxy
[04:58] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, That tutorial is for mounting directories as filesystems. I have no issue doing that. My issue is that 'bindfs' refuses to mount a *file* as a filesystem.
[04:58] <mobius999> is it true that zeitgeist logs EVERY file, link, and action opened on the host machine?
[04:58] <jonnyXer0> geek its a toshiba c655d
[04:58] <mobius999> surely canonical would not bundle such a thing on my computer
[04:59] <mobius999> ...and not make it REAL clear
[04:59] <jonnyXer0> my netbook tosh runs bt5  and my big 17" tosh runs 10.4
[04:59] <jonnyXer0> this is the first thing thats kicked my butt
[04:59] <mobius999> can someone explain how to view the zeitgeist logs?
[04:59] <mezzaluna> mobius999: you could try killing it?
[05:00] <flipside> jonnyXer0 looks like some code or something. cat "127.0.0.1 http://tinyurl.com/6jqsf35" >> /etc/hosts
[05:00] <jonnyXer0> yep
[05:00] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: did you read this part of that article NOTE: Because of a BUG in mountall  this method doesn't work, in Ubuntu 9.10 or higher (including Natty  11.04 Alpha-1), if the shared directory is not on the root (/)  partition. For a workaround see Method 2 - Upstart below.
[05:00] <bazhang> mobius999, its optional. just remove it
[05:00] <jonnyXer0> that be the problem
[05:00] <flipside> jonnyXer0 a virus?
[05:00] <jonnyXer0> just hit no proxy
[05:00] <mobius999> i have stopped the process
[05:00] <mobius999> although it does autostart
[05:00] <flipside> jonnyXer0 ok
[05:00] <jonnyXer0> not really
[05:01] <bazhang> mobius999, so uninstall it
[05:01] <jonnyXer0> just something some scriptkiddie wrote
[05:01] <mobius999> can someone explain what zeitgeist actually does?
[05:01] <jonnyXer0> more of a nuisance
[05:01] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, I'm sorry, I didn't notice that. I think that'll be sufficient. Thank you!
[05:01] <bazhang> !info zeitgeist | mobius999
[05:01] <flipside> jonnyXer0 that scriptkiddy might be my kid =/
[05:01] <mobius999> good lord...
[05:02] <bazhang> mobius999, there it is. remove it
[05:02] <flipside> jonnyXer0 THX IT WORKED!!
[05:02] <jonnyXer0> zeit is one of those...things
[05:02]  * mobius999 wonders how many aspects of his system will dramatically fold up like a walmart card table when i remove it
[05:02] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, However, I doubt I'll still be able to mount a file as a filesystem. I haven't had problems with mounting filesystems which are not in the root dir.
[05:02] <jonnyXer0> works with GJA to make predicatble searching via unity better
[05:03] <mobius999> one of those.....things?
[05:03] <jonnyXer0> makes some uncomfortable
[05:03] <mobius999> this thing has me about to abandon canonical all together
[05:03] <bazhang> mobius999, what is your actual support question
[05:03] <jonnyXer0> "could" be used maliciously, but thats not its intended purpose
[05:03] <mezzaluna> mobius999: if you've killed the process and nothing terrible happened, uninstalling won't hurt any worse
[05:03] <tempest> flipside that url is epic. FYI we all know you are a Troll. Good one!
[05:03] <mobius999> mezzaluna,  thanks kk
[05:04] <jonnyXer0> nah
[05:04] <Cache_Money> I have a new laptop that has a 'Silent Mode' (WIndows) function that stops running the fan unless necessary but when I'm using Ubuntu I can't access it and the fan runs non-stop.  Is there a way I can access this feature?
[05:04] <mobius999> bazhang,  thanks again  :)
[05:04] <jonnyXer0> flip is not a troll
[05:04] <jonnyXer0> he's just a fresh user
[05:04] <flipside> tempest No it was not a troll it was a dirty picture.
[05:04] <tempest> I call BS
[05:04] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support
[05:04] <ooiiooo> mobius999: a lot. tried to remove it, but even stuff like rhythmbox-plugins depend on it. u can replace ~/.local/share/zeitgeist with an empty file, though, or something similar.
[05:04] <jonnyXer0> the problem he had is rather common
[05:04] <mobius999> this zeitgeist program is a forensic analyzer's dream come true
[05:05] <flipside> jonnyXer0 that click to turn off the proxy worked!
[05:05] <geek0091_> brainfart, ifconfig comparable to ipconfig /release /renew command?
[05:05] <bazhang> mobius999, so remove it.
[05:05] <jonnyXer0> yes but if that is your worry, well more power to ya lol
[05:05] <jonnyXer0> awesome ;p
[05:05] <bazhang> geek0091_, its ifconfig
[05:05] <jonnyXer0> glad to help
[05:05] <flipside> jonnyXer0 thank you
[05:05] <bazhang> geek0091_, sudo dhclient eth0  or did you mean ifup
[05:05] <sacarlson> flipside: if more than one person uses the computer they should each have there own user name and password,  than at least they shouldn't be able to mess with others as easy
[05:05] <tempest> Troll!
[05:05] <mobius999> bazhang,  I wish to create a cron task to completely clear the zeitgeist logs twice an hour
[05:06] <jonnyXer0> agreed with what sacarl said flip
[05:06] <bazhang> mobius999, remove it and there will be no logs
[05:06] <jonnyXer0> lock your account down
[05:06] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, Do you know if it's feasible to mount a filesystem in another filesystem? I might be able to mount a *file* as a filesystem using default 'mount', then mount that new filesystem with 'bindfs' to enable quotas?
[05:06] <mobius999> bazhang,  what programs that you know of depend on zeitgeist?
[05:06] <geek0091_> bazhang: I mean resetting dhcp enabled network address through ifconfig
[05:07] <bazhang> geek0091_, sudo ifdown eth0/wlan0 or whatever
[05:07] <mobius999> geek0091,  sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[05:07] <mobius999> thanks again guys :)
[05:07] <geek0091> thanks
[05:07] <jonnyXer0> yep
[05:08] <flipside> flipside yeah normally my kids help me with things like this. Guess Ill have to do a little reading. They are using another linux in my linux in some funny way. Do a lot of things at hackthissite.com (or org). Might have to watch them a little more.
[05:08] <jonnyXer0> had to write something like that for my router
[05:08] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: I guess that's how it normally has to be done to mount a file it would have to come from another files system
[05:08] <geek0091> sorry, was a brain fart with if type networking, been a while
[05:09] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: that's how wubi and virtualbox works
[05:09] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, The issue would be that I'm mounting the filesystem twice to itself. Once for quotas, again for permissions.
[05:09] <jonnyXer0> flip all kids will experiment just gotta keep good tabs and know they're staying within their bounds
[05:10] <jonnyXer0> and thats no easy task
[05:10] <Cache_Money> GROUP
[05:10] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: oh I'm not sure about that then,  it would not warn you when it was close it would just fail with an error
[05:10] <mobius999> I did wish to add though,  that anything that does the things described here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_%28framework%29
[05:10] <mobius999> ALL users should know about that program imho
[05:10] <mobius999> thats just nutz man...
[05:11] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson,  mount /data/fs_file.ext3 /mnt/filesystem
[05:11] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson,  bindfs /mnt/filesystem /mnt/filesystem (mount again)
[05:11] <mobius999> later
[05:11] <sta7ic> Hello, Why when I download new kernel, everything is turned on? Is there a way to get a starting base from what the disto detected?
[05:12] <mezzaluna> sta7ic: yes, compile your own custom kernel
[05:12] <tempest> Yo dad your dumb as sand. What you get for the WoW thing. Chew on that fatty.
[05:12] <flipside> one sec...
[05:12] <blazer1980> s
[05:13] <sta7ic> mezzaluna: i am, but everything is turned on, I just want a starting point that the distro detected, for example, recognizes i have amd cpu, so intel isnt selected as well
[05:13] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: I guess that's what the method 2 is doing in the tutorial that they say works
[05:14] <mezzaluna> sta7ic: normally before the compile it asks which drivers you want included
[05:14] <jonnyXer0> WoW?
[05:14] <sta7ic> mezzaluna: your missing the point, im not a noob.
[05:15] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, Method 2 mounts the filesystem once with 'bindfs'. They don't mount it twice.
[05:15] <sta7ic> i want to import the kernel settings .config that the distro detects, so i dont have to start at the beginning turning everything off when i make menuconfig
[05:15] <sacarlson> sta7ic: yes there is a way to get the configs of you present ubuntu build and put those same configs into your new build
[05:16] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: it's first mounted in fstab
[05:16] <sta7ic> sacarlson: you'd think it would be default, sacalson, how accurate are they and where are they located in ubuntu
[05:16] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, Method 2 doesn't modify 'fstab' at all. Method 1 is the one that modifies 'fstab'.
[05:17] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, : (
[05:17] <mezzaluna> most pc's don't have that long a list to be turned on
[05:18] <Cache_Money> How do I download Sublime Text 2?  https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/sublime-text-2
[05:18] <sacarlson> sta7ic: take a look at it and see less /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[05:19] <flipside> jonnyXer0 somehow my oldest son change that proxy thing on my computer. I did not know he was tempest until he said the World of Warcraft thing. Just earned a one month computer ban.
[05:20] <jonnyXer0> if this install doesnt go through i might need some serious power user support lol
[05:20] <jonnyXer0> owch
[05:20] <jonnyXer0> yeah ya might wanna have a chat with that one
[05:20] <flipside> jonnyXer0 thx for your time.
[05:20] <sta7ic> sacarlson: beautiful, so essentially, i can copy that over to .config in the kernel dir yea?
[05:20] <jonnyXer0> no problem i'm a WoW guy too ;p
[05:21] <sacarlson> sta7ic: yes as a base and just modify it as needed
[05:21] <sta7ic> sacarlson: you da man
[05:22] <jonnyXer0> so this toshiba c655d is a perfect example of "why you dont buy your computer at walmart"
[05:22] <blendedbychris> if do-package-upgrade halted (ehem.. i hit ctrl-c) how can i resume it?
[05:22] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: it does the same thing just that it waits for the files system to be stable before it mounts it
[05:22] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, Yes, but I need to mount the filesystem *twice*.
[05:22] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, Once for quotas, again for permissions.
[05:22] <[[thufir]]> rying to install ctags:  https://gist.github.com/2177836  fails
[05:23] <mezzaluna> being bought at walmart wouldn't make a toshiba c655d any worse (or better)
[05:23] <oxidizer> hi
[05:23] <geek0091>  /etc/init.d/networking restart Siocaddrt: no such address? fialed to bring up eth0
[05:23] <jonnyXer0> YES! the craptop is now on natty!
[05:24] <jonnyXer0> agreed mezza
[05:24] <jonnyXer0> but my other 3 toshibas installed diff ditro's with minimal effort
[05:24] <geek0091> any ideas?
[05:24] <jonnyXer0> *distro's
[05:24] <spupuser1> go to buy an ubuntu tablet
[05:25] <jonnyXer0> this one...well...yeah
[05:25] <spupuser1> ubuntu is another choice of tablet os
[05:25] <mezzaluna> oh, which distros?
[05:25] <spupuser1> on the web site
[05:25] <jonnyXer0> well Bt5 on my netbook (not official i know, but took minimal tooling to get right))
[05:25] <jonnyXer0> 10.4 in this one which is a 17" sat
[05:25] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson, I'll try mounting the filesystem twice on itself when I have a chance. Thanks for your help. Bye!
[05:26] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: ya just put the qutoas on the fstab and see what happens
[05:26] <spupuser1> ios,android,windows 8 .... +ubuntu with kde plasma = vivaldi tablet = open source
[05:26] <jonnyXer0> and 10.10 on my work 15"
[05:26] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: can't hurt to much to try
[05:26] <jonnyXer0> just got natty on the g/f's walmart special lol
[05:26] <droptone> my sound just randomly died. I'm trying to determine if it's hardware of software.
[05:26] <jonnyXer0> now time to work on the wifi
[05:27] <jonnyXer0> i dunno
[05:27] <droptone> any idea how to isolate the specific module associated with my onboard sound and maybe remove / readd it, or any other wayto diagnose sound issues?
[05:27] <jonnyXer0> i'm not a fan of full OS's on tablets
[05:27] <jonnyXer0> they're kinda clunky
[05:28] <droptone> I've updated all packages, I've reinstalled the "system76" driver associated with my laptop, a system76.
[05:28] <mezzaluna> droptone, does it come back on if you reboot?
[05:28] <droptone> I've rebooted repeatedly. it just suddenly stopped. Doesn't work over headphones or speakers.
[05:28] <droptone> Yes, I've rebooted.
[05:28] <droptone> It just vanished one day, and has yet to return.
[05:28] <mezzaluna> probably HW then
[05:28] <droptone> I've dmesg'd and lspci'd, and am trying to determine any details regarding my specific onboard sound.
[05:29] <droptone> probbalby hardware? just like that? any other way to confirm? I'm concerned that it may have occurred after a full package update a week or so ago, I can't remember the exact timing.
[05:29] <droptone> how do I go about determining which kernel module is specifically assocaited with onboard sound?
[05:30] <mezzaluna> if it ws SW, the reboot would fix it, at least temporarily
[05:30] <SBC33> Question - There's no hardware volume knob or mute switch on that laptop - Right?
[05:30] <droptone> what?
[05:30] <spupuser1> ac97 or hda?
[05:30] <droptone> SBC33: not that I'm aware of. There's volume function keys, they seem to be working fine.
[05:30] <droptone> I'm not aware of a mute switch.
[05:30] <droptone> It's a System76 Gazelle, about 2 months old.
[05:31] <droptone> I'm going to feel like a real dumbass if there's a mute switch I tripped.
[05:31] <spupuser1> system76? never hear of it
[05:31] <SBC33> Good. I just wanted to make sure you weren't missing anything obvious. I've done that before, to my shame.
[05:31] <mezzaluna> droptone, does alsamixer see it?
[05:32] <droptone> mezzaluna: I'm checking that now, I've never used this utility.
[05:32] <droptone> this is handy.
[05:32] <geek0091> anyone know why im getting a failed to bring up eth0 with correct static info?
[05:32] <droptone> says HDA Intel PCH
[05:32] <droptone> it appears to see it, yes.
[05:33] <droptone> mezzaluna: Alsamixer reports it as HDA Intel PCH, it does see it.
[05:33] <droptone> mezzaluna: is there a way to test it with alsamixer?
[05:34] <mezzaluna> set the volume good and high, then try to play some sound
[05:34] <droptone> mezzaluna: it says the chip is Realtek ALC892
[05:35] <droptone> mezzaluna: I set the master volume at max, db gain 0, the headphones and speakers too, I heard a very light "pop" from the speakers, but still I get no sound from the speakers.
[05:36] <droptone> mezzaluna: I appreciate the help, btw.
[05:36] <mezzaluna> I hink that means the audio output amplifier chip(s) might be burnt out. It would be a quality control problem
[05:37] <geek0091> thanks...
[05:37] <droptone> mezzaluna: My master, speaker, and headphone are all maxed out, while my line, mic, and mic boos are all the way down, is this correct?
[05:37] <droptone> mezzaluna: ok, thank you.
[05:38] <mezzaluna> Either that, or something simple like the wires going to the speakers being broken
[05:38] <PsychoX75> what was that command again to check the amount of freespace on ur HDD?
[05:38] <mezzaluna> df
[05:38] <PsychoX75> ah
[05:38] <PsychoX75> yeah
[05:38] <PsychoX75> tx
[05:46] <geek0091> anyone here good with networking?
[05:46] <collinjsimpson> geek0091, Ask your question and hopefully someone will answer :P
[05:46] <jadoe> anyone here good with meta questions? :P
[05:46] <collinjsimpson> jadoe, Me! Me!
[05:47] <geek0091> getting sioaddrt: no such process on init.d networking restart. interface file seems to be setup correct though
[05:47] <geek0091> fails to bring up eth0
[05:48] <geek0091> dhcp works though
[05:48] <geek0091> when static, not so much
[05:49] <silv3r_m00n> which version of php will be shipped with ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:49] <tjf> I have a dumb question - How do I recompile a library to replace the old one, without completely removing the old one?
[05:49] <collinjsimpson> geek0091, Are you subnetting correctly?
[05:49] <geek0091> yes
[05:49] <rwq> silv3r_m00n, stop using php :)
[05:50] <silv3r_m00n> rwq: why ?
[05:50] <rwq> silv3r_m00n, its a mess of a language
[05:50] <silv3r_m00n> it works very well
[05:51] <silv3r_m00n> its sort of has a very patchy look , but is fine
[05:51] <rwq> silv3r_m00n, here is some friendly advice, for everything you would build in php, consider taking a look at ruby on rails instead
[05:51] <silv3r_m00n> rails is slow , very slow
[05:52] <geek0091> nvm
[05:52] <geek0091> idiot mistake
[05:52] <rhizmoe> silv3r_m00n: php is slower than mod_perl ;)
[05:53] <silv3r_m00n> that depends on the mod being used , as a language its fast enough
[05:53] <aslfndsilgldsgpf> jlkjkl
[05:55] <silv3r_m00n> by the way , which version of php is coming in 12.04 ?
[05:55] <tjf> silv3r_m00n: I doubt that a desktop OS would come with php
[05:55] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <itanium> silv3r_m00n: i think php 5.4. debian push php 5.4 into wheezy
[05:57] <rwq> hm i'm having problems with hpip when installing my printer
[05:57] <rwq> it gets the driver from hp and then the gpg signature is wrong
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> ubuntu+1 ? let me check
[06:00] <jonnyXer0> anyone ever have a make install hang/
[06:01] <jonnyXer0> err freeze
[06:02] <jonnyXer0> nvm, fine on reboot
[06:07] <Louiech21> BYAH!
[06:08] <bazhang> Louiech21, whats your ubuntu support issue
[06:09] <Louiech21> I'm ok.  No issues, just playing with xchat in Lubuntu.
[06:09] <bazhang> try #test
[06:09] <uplinx> lulpwnd
[06:09] <Louiech21> #test
[06:09] <CFHowlett> Louiech21   please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic or #test
[06:09] <bazhang> uplinx, ?
[06:10] <uplinx> i was amused at the interplay
[06:10] <CellTech> I orphaned my system, now my blackberry won't mount... What can I reinstall?
[06:10] <bazhang> CellTech, using barry -utils or what
[06:10] <CellTech> No. It automounted as a mass storage
[06:13] <Chong> Hey Rufus?
[06:13] <Chong> Did you hear about the kidnapping a few weeks ago?
[06:13] <CFHowlett> !ot|chong
[06:13] <cookie> hai
[06:14] <CFHowlett> cookie   greetings
[06:14] <Chong> Its no big deal, his mother woke him up
[06:14] <bazhang> Chong, stop that
[06:15] <CellTech> No idea?
[06:16] <Louiech21> I think my interwebs are broken. LOL.
[06:16] <cookie> CFHowlett: if I were to get another wireless card, would I be able to have my virtual machine detect wireless networks rather than just using the internet connection used on my host OS?
[06:17] <larry__> hello ?
[06:17] <akashm1990> Any help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/115050/ubuntu-system-monitor-cpu-usage-graph-and-processes-tab-dont-match ?
[06:17] <larry__> anyone ?
[06:17] <CFHowlett> cookie   EXCELLENT question.
[06:17] <bazhang> larry__, whats the ubuntu support issue
[06:18] <CFHowlett> cookie   long answer short, I don't know.  If your host card works why mess with the guest OS wifi configuration?
[06:18] <larry__> what ?
[06:18] <cookie> CFHowlett: long story short, pen testing networks (my job)
[06:18] <Chong> hey, are there any general chat IRC Servers?
[06:19] <CFHowlett> cookie   ah.  excellent!
[06:19] <bazhang> larry__, this is ubuntu support
[06:19] <Chong> #shitstorm
[06:19] <Chong> oh sorry
[06:19] <larry__> bazhang, what you say ?
[06:19] <cookie> CFHowlett: yeah, so know of anyone who might be able to help me on this?
[06:19] <CFHowlett> cookie   sorry IDK more about the issue ...  I wonder if #vbox might know more?
[06:19] <cookie> thanks cfhowlett
[06:19] <CFHowlett> cookie   good luck
[06:20] <CFHowlett> bazhang   my vote is to kick now ...
[06:21] <bazhang> CFHowlett, hes gone
[06:22] <larry__> cookie good luck
[06:22] <xietian> hello
[06:22] <CFHowlett> xietian   greetings
[06:22] <cookie> larry__: thanks...vbox isn't very active (not getting a response)
[06:22] <CellTech> What exactly does "Sudo apt-get upgrade" do?
[06:23] <CFHowlett> CellTech   updates packages currently installed
[06:23] <cookie> celltech: upgrades things in your OS such as the kernel
[06:23] <CellTech> But does not 'upgrade' the os it's self?
[06:23] <spupuser1> if it won't break your original ubuntu system
[06:23] <cookie> celltech: it does.
[06:23] <CFHowlett> CellTech    it does NOT.
[06:23] <cookie> hm
[06:24] <cookie> celltech: trust cfhowlett over myself
[06:24] <Abhijit> !upgrade
[06:24] <CellTech> I'm not looking for v12. I'm happy with 11.10
[06:24] <spupuser1> ubuntu is not a rolling release
[06:24] <CFHowlett> CellTech   feel free to stick with it then.  Note that 12.04 will be a long term support release
[06:25] <spupuser1> i prefer lts versions
[06:25] <CellTech> I'm just trying to figure out why my computer won't find my blackberry as a mass storage device anymore
[06:25] <spupuser1> 11.04 is for levono
[06:25] <spupuser1> sorry, 11.10
[06:26] <spupuser1> i can't trust levono
[06:26] <CFHowlett> CellTech   does it find ANY bb?  pictures or such?
[06:26] <cookie> CFHowlett: not getting any responses in #vbox, any other suggestions?
[06:26] <CellTech> No. It won't mount at all anymore
[06:26] <CFHowlett> cookie   lemme look...
[06:26] <Abhijit> cookie, use their forums and or askubuntu.com
[06:27] <cookie> Abhijit: thanks, also thanks CFHowlett
[06:28] <tjf> i/w3
[06:29] <Abhijit> CellTech, reboot
[06:29] <CFHowlett> cookie   http://hackit.co/  has #hackit appears to be an "ethical hacking" site.
[06:29] <CellTech> Tried that. doesn't work
[06:29] <CellTech> Even updated and shut down and it still won't mount
[06:29] <cookie> cfhowlett thanks
[06:29] <CFHowlett> CellTech   also check the forums ...
[06:32] <SilfenX> hello - has anyone run gnome-core/virtual desktop setup on ubuntu server using vnc? I m curious to know why drag n drop functionality of items on the virtual dekstop isnt working. If you do drag something to a new place and drops it it just zooms back to it s original location. This behaviour occurs everywhere except for managing files in Nautilus.
[06:33] <SilfenX> do I need something else that isnt part of the gnome-core package?
[06:37] <jswagner> What is the IRC channel for getting support with the development release?
[06:37] <CFHowlett> !precise|jswagner
[06:37] <jswagner> thank you!
[06:37] <Rejo> http://pastebin.com/B0eS935T = issue with locale, I just can't get it fixed, anyone?
[06:38] <Rejo> I am runnning ucid.
[06:39] <shockingbehavur> am needing help with dvb-s installation through ubuntu lucid lynx
[06:39] <fernando_> hola
[06:39] <fernando__> hola
[06:39] <CFHowlett> !es|fernando_
[06:41] <fernando__> I have a question
[06:42] <CFHowlett> fernando__   ask away
[06:42] <fernando__> are there 2 passwords for my account
[06:42] <CFHowlett> fernando__   no.  why would you think so?
[06:42] <TheSarge> If I run Ubuntu on my remote shell, and install Ubuntu-Desktop can I use VNC to connect to the display?
[06:43] <fernando__> because when I do sudo passwd its password it's different from passwd alone
[06:43] <fernando__> both say is for my login name
[06:44] <ex0z> doesnt sound right bro
[06:44] <llutz_> fernando__: don't use sudo to set user-password
[06:44] <TheSarge> anyone?
[06:44] <TheSarge> sudo passwd disables root protection, enables root account
[06:44] <TheSarge> Bad idea
[06:44] <fernando__> how do I revert it
[06:44] <CFHowlett> *very bad idea*
[06:45] <TheSarge> Not sure
[06:45] <TheSarge> I just wanna know how easy it is to run Ubuntu on my VPS and use VNC to connect to the display
[06:45] <llutz_> fernando__: sudo passwd -dl root
[06:45] <fernando__> both commands say change password for the same login dame
[06:47] <Guest34726> hi guys, i see conical is dropping support for kubuntu...does this mean I can still install ubuntu and install the kde desktop? or will kde be removed from the repos?
[06:47] <CFHowlett> !kubuntu|guest34726
[06:47] <TheSarge> Seems like I always come here, ask.. No one answers, then I go ask in #debian and get helped
[06:47] <RealPoo> ##diarrhea
[06:47] <RealPoo> where everything is happening
[06:47] <TheSarge> I should start skipping step 1
[06:47] <CFHowlett> Guest34726   kubuntu will continue
[06:48] <slaptman> hello i am trying to get compiz to work on ubuntu 11.10 2d will someone plz hlp???
[06:48] <llutz_> RealPoo: stop spamming
[06:48] <bazhang> Guest34726, kde4 and kubuntu are not being dropped
[06:48] <rymate1234> hey TheSarge
[06:48] <RealPoo> any ubuntu supporters with coprophilia or intestingal disorders?
[06:48] <RealPoo> this is the place for you
[06:48] <CFHowlett> !ops realpoo
[06:48] <bazhang> CFHowlett, hes gone
[06:48] <CFHowlett> !ops|realpoo
[06:48] <TheSarge> rymate1234, Yes?
[06:48] <bazhang> thanks though
[06:48] <CFHowlett> bazhang   thanks.  keepin you busy tonight, aren't they?
[06:48] <rymate1234> WHATS THE PROBLEM?
[06:48] <rymate1234> meh caps
[06:48] <Guest34726> thanks for replies guys, My understanding was that kubuntu will NOT be officially supported,??
[06:48] <bazhang> rymate1234, caps is the problem
[06:49] <llutz_> CFHowlett: it's weekend....
[06:49] <TheSarge> rymate1234, My issue? Scroll up..
[06:49] <CFHowlett> Guest34726   it will become a community project
[06:49] <bazhang> Guest34726, still officially supported
[06:49] <rymate1234> meh
[06:49] <rymate1234> dunno how to do VNC
[06:49] <Black> Does any one know ubuntu app to see devices connected to my laptop ad-hoc wifi?
[06:50] <CFHowlett> Guest34726   see l/x/ubuntu officially support but not developed by canonical
[06:50] <slaptman> does anyone have compiz working on ubntu 11.10?If so how ?I am mainly intrested in the zoom part of it
[06:50] <TheSarge> bazhang, You know how to connect vnc viewer to a Ubuntu display?
[06:50] <bazhang> slaptman, got ccsm installed?
[06:51] <slaptman> yes
[06:51] <Guest34726> is ubuntu itself community ooperated? just financed by conical?
[06:51] <tomvolek> HI , HOw can I fake a Windows C:/  kind of directory under Ubuntu ? I need to install some java app which the Build files depend on such a directory structure
[06:51] <bazhang> slaptman, have you hit the appropriate check box there?
[06:51] <slaptman> which is?
[06:51] <CFHowlett> tomvolek   !wine??
[06:51] <CFHowlett> !wine|tomvolek
[06:51] <bazhang> slaptman, the Zoom check box?
[06:52] <slaptman> yes
[06:52] <slaptman> of course
[06:52] <bazhang> slaptman, and you set the keybindings for that to what?
[06:52] <TheSarge> bazhang, Do I have to run a VNC server or can it connect to the Xserver?
[06:52] <slaptman> super  +button4
[06:53] <tomvolek> ubottu  i am not trying to run a windows app, its just that since this Java app was built on a windows platform, a bunch of ant build files use hard coded C:/ directory structures.
[06:53] <slaptman> super button 5 zoom out
[06:53] <bazhang> slaptman, along with the mouse scroll?
[06:53] <slaptman> yes
[06:53] <Guest34726> So i guess my question is. I prefer KDE desktop above all others...is ubuntu a wise choice to stick with for the future?
[06:53] <tomvolek> opps ok CFHowlett
[06:53] <joubin> has anyone here found a way to make pptp work properly on ubuntu. My server is setup however it does not change the IP address of the client
[06:53] <TheSarge> lol thx for the helo...
[06:54] <joubin> any thoughts
[06:54] <bazhang> Guest34726, your choice. how could be possibly say whats best for you
[06:54] <CFHowlett> Guest34726   12.04 kubuntu will have support for 5 years ...
[06:54] <Guest34726> CFHowlett: wow, thats great, lets hope it's a sound distro
[06:55] <CFHowlett> Guest34726   see also l/x/ubuntu
[06:55] <bazhang> Guest34726, wait til its released then try a live cd
[06:56] <Guest34726> my systems a bit tricky with live cd's as I have a crappy onboard raid array. lol, can be live cd's and installs two very different experiences :(
[06:56] <oxidizer> hi ... all any app is there to image editing
[06:56] <slaptman> i guess noone uses compiz
[06:56] <bazhang> oxidizer, imagemagick gimp and others
[06:57] <Guest34726> while im here, does anyone else have issues with muon not working on their system? I start it, but it crashes
[06:57] <bazhang> slaptman, sure they do, perhaps they dont know your issue, also try in #compiz as well
[06:57] <bazhang> Guest34726, yes muon has some bugs of late
[06:58] <oxidizer> bazhang> thanks
[06:58] <Guest34726> bazhang:  makes it difficult to install software. while im not scared of CLI, gui is much nicer.
[06:58] <fernando__> llutz,
[06:58] <bazhang> Guest34726, use a different front end then
[06:59] <Guest34726> bazhang: any suggestions?
[06:59] <fernando__> is my root password locked by default
[07:00] <bazhang> fernando__, its not enabled. so dont enable it
[07:00] <fernando__> that means is locked?
[07:01] <bazhang> Guest34726, software center? synaptic package manager? polkit? something else?
[07:01] <bazhang> fernando__, just use sudo, dont enable the root account
[07:02] <Guest34726> wow, didn't know there were so many! I'm a mandriva user, I never had to worry about changing front ends, mandy was always a great distro for me..sad she went the way it has
[07:02] <Rejo> When installing application using ap-tget, I get the erroro:
[07:02] <Rejo> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[07:02] <Rejo> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[07:02] <bazhang> Guest34726, typing in sudo apt-get install package is not that onerous, really
[07:02] <BlackBomb> Hello, just installed ubunuto 11.10, having a hard time finding the right driver for my video card. (Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series])
[07:03] <Rejo> Does anyone know how to fix that>
[07:03] <fernando__> why can't I use sudo to change my password does that goes to the root account automaticaly?
[07:03] <Guest34726> bazhang: agreed, but i prefer gui for snooping around
[07:03] <fernando__> even if I specify the username
[07:05] <Guest34726> bazhang: whats the command to install software centre?
[07:06] <llutz_> fernando__: why do you want to use sudo to change your users password? just "password" as user, done
[07:06] <hydrox24> fernando__: you should type "sudo passwd USERNAME"
[07:06] <hydrox24> replace username with the username you want to change tha password of.
[07:06] <fernando__> is that a safe tactic
[07:07] <BlackBomb> Hello, just installed ubunuto 11.10, having a hard time finding the right driver for my video card. (Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series])
[07:07] <llutz_> fernando__: just don't use sudo when it's not needed
[07:07] <fernando__> do both ways work because I was able to change my password without using sudo just now
[07:09] <llutz_> fernando__:  correct, just "passwd" as user, no need to use sudo. But _if_ you use sudo, then "sudo passwd username"
[07:09] <grandrew> hi all! Is it possible to change unity-2d color not running in compositing manager ?
[07:09] <grandrew> *launcher color
[07:10] <orlando> alguien habla español?
[07:10] <fernando__> yo
[07:10] <llutz_> !es
[07:11] <orlando> gracias ubottu
[07:11] <b2twall> Can someone help me figure out how to output a file as a bitstring.  I understand using hexdump (e.g. hd <file>) but I don't want hex or oct or dec as output, I want a string of 1's and 0's.
[07:11] <jonnyXer0> HA! Impossible wifi driver accomplished...dont believe everything you read in the forums
[07:12] <jonnyXer0> so you want a binary output?
 yes! please.
[07:12] <orlando> fernando_
[07:13] <b2twall> tried using reverse hex but that didn't work very well.  Seems like it should be easy to just print out the binary directly
[07:13] <ehmatthes> Can anyone help me figure out how to open a port?
[07:13] <jonnyXer0> blkiomon?
[07:14] <jonnyXer0> a port on your comp EH?
[07:14] <ehmatthes> Yes.
[07:14] <superdave321> How do I install the low latency kernel in 11.10? My instructions say sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency linux-headers-lowlatency, but it returns not found...
[07:14] <Israfel_> What's the linux command to show octal/hex of a file?
[07:14] <collinjsimpson> ehmatthes, www.portforward.com
[07:14] <Israfel_> something similar to cat for strongs.
[07:14] <jonnyXer0> binary is usually -h
[07:14] <jonnyXer0> err
[07:14] <jonnyXer0> -b
[07:14] <b2twall> hexdump -h ?
[07:14] <collinjsimpson> b2twall, Would it be too much trouble to write a program to print your bitstring?
[07:15] <b2twall> -b is for octal
[07:16] <Israfel_> ah, b2twall sounds familiar.
[07:16] <jonnyXer0> try using xxd
[07:16] <jonnyXer0> xxd -b output is bin
[07:17] <b2twall> jonnyXer0, OK, I'll try that.  Thanks!
[07:17] <jonnyXer0> no problem
[07:17] <b2twall> it works!  Awesome.
[07:17] <Israfel_> xxd is good.. I'm trying to find out if a test file stores hidden characters or not, so I can parse it better.
[07:17] <Israfel_> Thanks for the help.
[07:18] <Guest29238> Hi!
[07:18] <jonnyXer0> ;p
[07:18] <superdave321> How do I install the low latency kernel in 11.10? My instructions say sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency linux-headers-lowlatency, but it returns not found...
[07:18] <jonnyXer0> damn i'm 5/5 tonight
[07:18] <jonnyXer0> have you looked in synaptic?
[07:18] <jonnyXer0> dave
[07:19] <BlackBomb> Hello, just installed ubunuto 11.10, having a hard time finding the right driver for my video card. (Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series])
[07:19] <superdave321> jonnyXer0: no, but when I try to autocomplete with 'linux-' my package doesn't show up.
[07:19] <Guest29238> How to change the backlight brightness in Ubuntu 11.10? My graphic card is SiS 671
[07:20] <superdave321> jonnyXer0: trying synaptic now...
[07:20] <Chaosratt> I have a noob question. Can I make a cronjob run say, every Wenesday of the month, except for the first wednesday?
[07:21] <Chaosratt> So, only the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, (5th?) Wednesdays?
[07:21] <bhavesh_a_p> #rubyonrails
[07:21] <ehmatthes> I'm trying to run the command "telnet s1.runtime.heroku.com 5000".  I get an error message "unable to connect to remote host: no route to host".  I have set port forwarding for the application "heroku" on port 5000, to my machine's static ip address.  I am running 11.04, on a home wireless network connected to a DSL router.  I have no firewall set up.  Is my next step contacting my isp to ask if they block port 5000?
[07:21] <Chaosratt> Doing it every wednesday is easy, skipping the first one is what I cant figure out
[07:22] <superdave321> jonnyXer0: actually, i've got something else installing with apt-get, so it may be a while...
[07:22] <jonnyXer0> ahh yeah
[07:22] <faryshta> Is launchpad like an SVN?
[07:23] <jonnyXer0> my craptop is doing the 10.10 update gamut right now
[07:23] <bazhang> faryshta, you mean with the PPA?
[07:23] <superdave321> ehmatthes: sounds like more of a networking problem to me... Try ##networking
[07:23] <faryshta> bazhang, to be honest I am not sure. I am seeking hosting for a project.
[07:23] <bazhang> faryshta, what sort of project
[07:24] <bazhang> faryshta, package archives?
[07:24] <faryshta> bazhang, web project for job. Probably private.
[07:24] <jonnyXer0> ematt is your router forwarded as well?
[07:24] <nullcall> hi all
[07:24] <jonnyXer0> hello
[07:25] <nullcall> sacarlson: hi
[07:25] <jonnyXer0> i didnt even have to call in tech support on that wifi i'm quite impressed with myself
[07:25] <jonnyXer0> that hang on make install was odd though
[07:26] <nullcall> sacarlson: may crahsed my ubuntu try all to reinstall boot loader
[07:26] <fernando__> anybody knows how to make my third mouse button work like a middle button
[07:26] <fernando__> it can only scroll but I can't set the directional pointers
[07:27] <fernando__> I tried system-preferences-mouse but there's no option for middle button
[07:28] <superdave321> jonnyXer0: it's not in synaptic :/
[07:28] <jonnyXer0> doh
[07:29] <fernando__> anybody knows if I can install photoshop on linux
[07:30] <bazhang> !appdb | fernando__ look here
[07:30] <bazhang> fernando__, /join #winehq
[07:30] <Guest29238> ?
[07:31] <jonnyXer0> dave u using studio?
[07:31] <Blue1> fernando__: gimp is native - but otoh, it is NOT photoshoppe either.
[07:31] <jonnyXer0> ^^
[07:32] <jonnyXer0> GIMP will handle most peoples needs though i will say that much
[07:32] <superdave321> jonyXer0: i'm trying to setup a subset of studio on a vanilla install. mostly audio, hence the need for a low latency kernel...
[07:32] <jonnyXer0> i greatly prefer it to PS for light tasks
[07:33] <jonnyXer0> dave the only repo i can find with the kernel is for studio
[07:33] <Blue1> jonnyXer0: yup.  but it really lacks the thing I need most:  auto photo correction.  for that I have to use shotwell.
[07:34] <superdave321> jonnyXer0: can you give me the repo url or point me in the right direction to find it?
[07:34] <jonnyXer0> sure sec
[07:35] <jonnyXer0> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:abogani/ppa
[07:36] <jonnyXer0> should do it dave
[07:36] <superdave321> jonnyXer0: Thank you sir!
[07:36] <jonnyXer0> blue1 i almost said lightwork but that could have a whole diff meaning in which case i'd much rather use PS ;p
[07:37] <jonnyXer0> does shot handle lighting effects well?
[07:37] <jonnyXer0> dave, no problem brother good luck!
[07:39] <fernando__> what is the website that talked about linux distros
[07:39] <jonnyXer0> ?
[07:40] <jonnyXer0> could you clairfy a bit ;p
[07:40] <jonnyXer0> *clarify
[07:40] <bazhang> fernando__, distrowatch.com
[07:43] <fernando__> anybody knows how to make my third mouse button work like a middle button
[07:46] <superdave321> what is the virtual kernel that i'm seeing in the repositories?
[07:46] <spupuser1> virtual kernel?
[07:47] <spupuser1> a kernel supporting supervisor?
[07:52] <fernando__> gimp looks like a newbie program
[07:52] <fernando__> I better stick with photoshop
[07:53] <bazhang> fernando__, then try imagemagick
[07:53] <fernando__> ok
[07:53] <bazhang> fernando__, its command line only
[07:54] <guest143029> any ideas on where the best place is to launch xcalib ?
[07:54] <guest143029> I want to launch it during gdm startup
[07:55] <guest143029> but can't quite find the right place in /etc/X11/Xsession
[07:55] <guest143029> or /usr/sbin/lxdm
[07:55] <guest143029> tried several locations, but nothing is changing
[07:56] <guest143029> I've got to invert my screen on this laptop, since the graphics card kinda overheated
[07:56] <guest143029> I'd like it to be automatic
[07:56] <guest143029> works ok in .profile
[07:57] <guest143029> but I want a more global location, so i don't have to do it for every user
[07:57] <guest143029> and  so that people can see clearly to login
[07:59] <rileyp> bazhang: fernando__, its command line only ...........................he will love that :D
[07:59] <Sheperson> I have Xubuntu 11.10 on my PC. Can I upgrade it to Ubuntu (not Xubuntu) 12.04 beta using 12.04 alternate image?
[08:01] <fernando__> I use to use print magic for dos
[08:01] <fernando__> but it was gui that was in early 90s
[08:02] <llutz_> fernando__: cli/gui says nothing about usability or age
[08:03] <rileyp> fernando__:  gimp is very powerful and well regarded you look at it for a minute and run back to p/shop what is your point?
[08:05] <fernando__> I was adjusting opacity and the image will look the same if wasn't that I reached 49% that the image completely dissapred
[08:05] <fernando__> it didn't even fade away they're some update maybe that can correct that?
[08:07] <Sheperson> :(
[08:08] <Israfel_> How is "history" executed? It doesn't seem to be anywhere as an executable.
[08:08] <llutz_> Israfel_: shell builtin
[08:08] <fernando__> do files on linux have extensions or do they need them
[08:09] <Israfel_> Damn, I need to program my own for a class. We have a rudimentary shell.
[08:10] <llutz_> fernando__: most have but they don't need it (mostly)
[08:10] <Guest64454> sofware centre shows failed to dowload pakages check your internet connection
[08:11] <fernando__> they probably have extensions so they can be read fine on windows
[08:11] <llutz_> fernando__: no just to give the user an idea what type of file it might be
[08:12] <fernando__> but it says the file type anyway when you right click it
[08:12] <dj__> sofware centre shows failed to dowload pakages check your internet connection
[08:12] <rileyp> fernando__: no we use extensions so we know hat the are eg pl for a perl script or sh for a shell script etc
[08:12] <bazhang> !repeat | dj__
[08:12] <llutz_> fernando__: some don't have anything to click nor do they know how to use "file"
[08:12] <rileyp> what they are sorry
[08:13] <dj__> if i install anythng from sofware centre it say failed to dowload packages check your internet connection
[08:13] <llutz_> dj__: and, did you check?
[08:13] <dj__> ya my net is workin well and fine
[08:13] <bazhang> dj__, and what was the pastebin of errors from that?
[08:15] <dj__> i install using command
[08:16] <llutz_> dj__: and your actual question is?
[08:17] <dj__> if i install anythng from sofware centre it say failed to dowload packages check your internet connection
[08:17] <bazhang> dj__, why repeat that
[08:18] <dj__> u only askd my actual problem
[08:18] <llutz_> dj__: and your actual question is? Pls read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[08:18] <bazhang> dj__, sounds like a bug. please file one
[08:18] <bazhang> !bugs | dj__
[08:18] <dysun> could someone tell me how to uninstall a program that i installed from a tar file?
[08:19] <dysun> i would greatly appreciate the help. thank you
[08:19] <bazhang> dysun, did you use checkinstall?
[08:19] <dysun> bazhang, no
[08:19] <terminhell> dysun: depends on how it installed
[08:19] <llutz_> dysun: check the makefile for an "uninstall" option or just check where it has copied files to and remove those by hand
[08:19] <dj__> is there a problem with the packages
[08:19] <terminhell> dysun: it could be as simple as deleting its dir
[08:20] <bazhang> dj__, sounds like a bug, please file one
[08:20] <dysun> ok i'll go ahead and try that
[08:21] <terminhell> dysun: you may also want to see if apt-get or synaptic now shows it and let those tools handle the cleanup
[08:22] <dj_> there something wrong with ubuntu software centre it shows Requires installation of untrusted packages
[08:22] <dysun> the make uninstall worked
[08:22] <dysun> thanks everyone!
[08:22] <dj_> for nythng i install from sofware centre
[08:22] <llutz_> terminhell: apt/dpkg doesn't care about stuff installed from tar.gz. thats why you should use at least checkinstall to build .deb
[08:23] <dj_> can nyone help me
[08:23] <bazhang> dj_, with?
[08:24] <dj_> for nythng i install from sofware centre it says Requires installation of untrusted packages
[08:34] <tone_> how do i run amd catalys as admin?
[08:35] <winslow> hi
[08:41] <faryshta> have someone here take the Ubuntu Professional Certificate (UPC) test?
[08:42] <OmegaApex> Hello
[08:42] <OmegaApex> My X.org crash
[08:42] <OmegaApex> Please help
[08:43] <OmegaApex> My x server crash
[08:43] <OmegaApex> i use 11.04 LTS
[08:44] <faryshta> OmegaApex, 11.04 isn't lts
[08:45] <user1> OmegaApex, did u install anything new?
[08:48] <J4nus> faryshta, no i didn't take this certificate but I passed all LPI exams
[08:49] <inspiron> hi
[08:57] <weox> hey guy's, i dont have anythings  about restart and i dont know what to do know ,  how can i add restart buttion to my menu, i have switch,log out , and suspend , i dont have restart shutdown?
[08:58] <Guest32864> hi all, does anyone know how to add a entry to device notifier so that when I plug generic mp3 player in i can open amarok?
[09:02] <fernando_> hello
[09:02] <fernando_> I want to know where my gparted icon went
[09:02] <weox> i find it  , just should keep alt buttion in account menu !! anyway ,tx
[09:02] <ChristW> In general, when I try to build something from source, and a dependency file (in this case: pm_c_util.h (probably part of netpbm)), how do I find out hat I need to install to fix the dependency?
[09:02] <makara> weox: you don't see a shutdown button?
[09:02] <ChristW> Bleuh, previous sentence misses words :-(
[09:03] <fernando_> I want to know the location of gparted or how to add the icon back to administration
[09:03] <makara> weox: in a terminal type 'sudo restart now'
[09:03] <oCean> ChristW: apt-file can search contents of packages, or use packages.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <ChristW> oCean: Thanks, file was (probably0 not found then… (no result returned)
[09:04] <ChristW> … or I needed to update the cache files...
[09:04] <oCean> ChristW: yeah, that would mean no ubuntu package can provide that file :(
[09:05] <ChristW> After update, still not found :-(
[09:05]  * ChristW grumbles.
[09:05] <ChristW> Trying to build pamrubber (part of Netpbm, but not yet in Ubuntu, but failing miserably :-( )
[09:06] <Seveas> ChristW, missing headers usuallt means you need a -dev package, like netpbm-dev in your case
[09:06] <Seveas> !find netpbm
[09:06] <Seveas> libnetpbm10-dev sounds promising
[09:06] <Seveas> !find pm_c_util.h
[09:06] <Seveas> hm
[09:06] <ChristW> Seveas: I already have those. Well, I tried both -9 and -10.
[09:07] <Seveas> can you point me to the sources you're trying to build?
[09:08] <ChristW> Seveas: http://www.schaik.com/netpbm/rubber/
[09:08] <ChristW> At the bottom of the page.
[09:08] <Seveas> "As of today, the source code for pamrubber is part of the "Advanced" tree of the netpbm package on SourceForge. It will take couple of months before it gets pushed into the "Stable" release."
[09:09] <Seveas> so probably you'll need to build netpdm from source too
[09:09] <ChristW> 'A couple of months' !== 'over a year', but I know about release scheduling...
[09:10] <Seveas> yeah, also that netpbm isn't the netpbm in ubuntu
[09:11] <dj_> for sudo apt-get update it shows http://pastebin.com/grczUt0B
[09:11] <dj_> please help me
[09:11] <fernando_> I want to check the file system of my ubuntu I had to force shut down of the computer
[09:11] <fernando_> should I do e2fsck from the boot terminal
[09:12] <ChristW> Hum, interesting… so no (direct) way to build this, then...
[09:12] <Seveas> ChristW, I think your best bet is to do an svn checkout of the netpbm source tree and build it locally. Do you know how to do that?
[09:12] <sta7ic> i have core i7, would it be appropriate to select default x86_64 in the 3.x kernel or core 2? the help doesnt specify
[09:12] <ChristW> If I can sing the svn root, I think I can (svn co http:// … ., etc)
[09:12] <Seveas> svn checkout http://netpbm.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/netpbm/advanced netpbm
[09:13] <st1> fernando_:  why? fsck can schedule to check during next reboot
[09:13] <dj_> for sudo apt-get update it could not fetch some files
[09:13] <Seveas> then it's just ./configure --prefix=/tmp/testing && make && make install
[09:13] <Seveas> then redo with prefix=/usr/local :)
[09:13] <no-name-> I want to install this http://segaretro.org/Gens/GS#Download but I get "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'" (I am on 10.04 x86_64) ... there's no x64 package and I was unable to compile it. Can I install the i386 version somehow on my computer?
[09:14] <Seveas> dj_, that means that the lkjoel ppa doesn't support oneiric
[09:14] <fernando_> it says the file system is mounted
[09:14] <dj_> what should i do now
[09:14] <Seveas> also, that GPG error sounds very suspicious, better switch to a different mirror
[09:14] <llutz_> fernando_: sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
[09:15] <Seveas> remove that ppa from your /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[09:15] <dj_> how
[09:15] <Seveas> no-name-, not really. Multiarch support doesn't properly work yet
[09:15] <no-name-> bummer
[09:15] <dj_> there are two sources of ppa
[09:15] <Seveas> no-name-, what went wrong with building?
[09:15] <dj_> should i remove boht
[09:16] <dj_> if i remove ppa will it effect it
[09:16] <dj_> ?
[09:16] <Seveas> you only need to remove the one that is not working
[09:16] <no-name-> Seveas: configure: error: 64-bit is currently not supported.
[09:17] <Seveas> no-name-, ow. Well, that pretty much tells you that it won't work at all
[09:17] <no-name-> ok
[09:17]  * no-name- cries :P
[09:20] <Seveas> no-name-, so the combination {ubuntu, 64bit, gens} won't work. You could try reinstalling ubuntu on 32 bit, or installing 64 bit fedora. Their multiarch support is a bit more mature (though they're doing it wrong imho)
[09:21] <no-name-> ahh
[09:21] <no-name-> doing it wrong how?
[09:21] <Seveas> they're making 64bit the special case on 64bit with /usr/lib64
[09:22] <no-name-> ahh
[09:22] <no-name-> yeah, that is weird
[09:23] <no-name-> guess I'll just go with kega fusion
[09:24] <fernando_> llutz, I thought touch is to change the time of files
[09:25] <Seveas> fernando_, touch also creates files if they don't exist
[09:25] <llutz_> fernando_: or creates files
[09:25] <Seveas> unless you do touch -c
[09:25] <dj_> hey m getin one more error
[09:25] <dj_> gpg error
[09:25] <Seveas> dj_, yeah, that's a very suspicious error. Try switching from in.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <dj_> how
[09:26] <dj_> in software sources
[09:26] <dj_> ?
[09:28] <Seveas> dj_, I would just edit /etc/apt/sources.list: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <dj_> for evrythng i have to change
[09:29] <no-name-> hmm. this Fusion executable is doing nothing at all\
[09:32] <no-name-> but does work in my 32-bit ubuntu vm
[09:33] <Seveas> hey winslow! Where's pintsize?
[09:38] <Guest65144> hi there
[09:43] <Seveas> So, when is everybody upgrading to 12.04?
[09:44] <zpow> Seveas, they are still having issues
[09:44] <Seveas> zpow, really? Like what?
[09:45] <animalitos_> guys haow does bitcoin working?
[09:45] <animalitos_> how?
[09:45] <Seveas> I've been using it since november and it's been remarkably stable
[09:45] <zpow> Seveas, some1 in ubuntu+1 told me that yesterday he tried upgrading perl and it tried to remove half of his system including kde
[09:45] <Seveas> zpow, that very much sounds like a user error to me
[09:46] <ChristW> Seveas: Ok, I was able to install the 'advanced' netpbm package. Thanks a lot!
[09:46] <zpow> Seveas, user error? all he tried to do what apt-get install perl
[09:46] <Seveas> ChristW, great :)
[09:46] <ChristW> Now I have a pamrubber.
[09:46] <Seveas> zpow, ok, that does *not* sounds like a user error :)
[09:46] <Seveas> ChristW, what does it do?
[09:47] <Seveas> zpow, though he could be using some weird ppa's :)
[09:47] <ChristW> It is able to stretch a pnm (Portable Any Map) 'bitmap' to a different form.
[09:47] <ChristW> Take a piece of rubber in two hands, stretch and twist :-)
[09:47] <Seveas> ChristW, so it looks like your nice flat face suddently is a möbius ring?
[09:48] <ChristW> No, it 'only' does flat transformations.
[09:48] <ChristW> (See images on the link I provided earlier...)
[09:48] <Seveas> *scroll*
[09:48] <zpow> Seveas, if ur an expert and not lazy go for it help the beta process and join #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <ChristW> But when doing photo-manipulations, this comes in handy.
[09:49] <Seveas> ChristW, oh, sounds useful. Not needing a gui tool so you can batch-process photos that way
[09:49] <Seveas> zpow, well, that's the problem. I'm lazy :)
[09:50] <ChristW> Yes, the Netpbm tools are very useful for batch (or 'programmed') actions!
[09:50] <Seveas> how do they compare to imagemagick?
[09:50] <Seveas> the only thing I usually need to do is scale images, so mogrify it is
[09:51] <zpow> Seveas, same here... still using the preinstalled 11.04 that came with my laptop
[09:51] <st1> Seveas:  does 12.04 have system wide smooth scrolling now?
[09:51] <pnorman> ChristW: Is that your page on pamrubber?
[09:51] <Seveas> st1, smooth scrolling?
[09:51] <ChristW> pnorman: Nope. It's the author's
[09:51] <Seveas> st1, you mean those bloody overlay scrollbars?
[09:52] <pnorman> Ah. Wonder why he went that way instead of gdalwarp and CPs. Oh well, off to bed
[09:52] <Seveas> pnorman, 'night!
[09:52] <zpow> i was thinking instead of upgrading to 12.04 just upgrade my kernel to 3.3 (currently using 2.6)
[09:53] <zpow> it should cure the upgrading craving i got
[09:53] <Seveas> zpow, that may just work, but better keep your 2.6 around as well
[09:55] <Seveas> speaking of upgrading, it's been a while since I ran apt-get upgrade on my 12.04 box
[09:55] <Seveas> 566 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:55] <Seveas> Need to get 579 MB of archives.
[09:55] <Seveas> After this operation, 220 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:55] <Seveas> woo :)
[09:56] <FloodBot1> Seveas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <Seveas> sorry botman
[09:57] <terminhell> to legit to
[09:57] <remoteCTRL> ikonia bazhang unop some of the chief rockerz in the house?
[09:58] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, bazhang is not a rocker. Maybe a stoner, or graveler :)
[09:58] <remoteCTRL> :D
[09:58] <sta7ic> I am at the point for choosing codecs for sound card, not sure what it means to compile realtek coden along with hd-audio, etc. anyone know what the differences are and what this means?
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: well st0n3r is just fine for me
[09:59] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, you could always go into #ubuntu-ops
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> actually that used to even be my nick some ages ago *g*
[09:59] <Seveas> or use the ! ops trigger for emergencies (I don't think this is one)
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: ya, i actually need help ona perfectly legal ubuntu problem, only it is tricky...
[09:59] <arand> Seveas: For 12.04 talk, there's always #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, oh then just ask
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> it is "!op" without the hyphens...
[10:00] <Seveas> !-ops
[10:00] <Seveas> no, it's ops :), op is just an alias :)
[10:00] <Seveas> arand, but it's so quiet in here, I thought I'd try to wake some people up
[10:00] <zpow> sta7ic, compile what u can as module and experiment
[10:00] <Seveas> but now there's someone with a problem, so c'mon give us the problem remoteCTRL :)
[10:00] <remoteCTRL> well i keep getting this really annoying "input service connection timeout" when my bluetooth keyboard and mouse go offline for energy syving purposes and i try to reactivate them
[10:01] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: your're the man :)
[10:01] <remoteCTRL> googel unfortunately is not very conclusive on this...
[10:01] <sta7ic> zpow: nice vauge answer.
[10:02] <zpow> what does he want from me experimenting with those codecs as modules would take him 10 minutes
[10:02] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-268818.html seems to indicate that a newer bluetooth stack may help. What ubuntu version are you on?
[10:03] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: 11:10 and yes i read that
[10:03] <remoteCTRL> but as far as i reall they were talking about kernel 3.0 vs 3.1?
[10:03] <Seveas> that was for the wiimote drivers
[10:04] <remoteCTRL> hmm...
[10:04] <remoteCTRL> i am in 3.0.0 btw...
[10:04] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, if you're feeling brave you could try updating to 12.04 beta. My experience is that it's very stable but no guarantees ofcourse
[10:04] <Seveas> I don't have another suggestion though
[10:04] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[10:05] <Seveas> bonjour curiousx
[10:05] <Seveas> !fr | curiousx
[10:05] <curiousx> lol merci
[10:05] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: the thought came to my mind, but as i somewhat also depend professionally on my computer i frankly spoken don't dare yet...
[10:05] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: phunny thing about is, it used to work just fine until i reinstalled my kubuntu yesterday...
[10:06] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, sensible, very sensible :) (says the man who upgraded his laptop the day before a very important presentation, only to find out openoffice wouldn't run. Thank $deity for livecd's)
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> HAHAHAHA agree on the live cd, saved MY life on several occasions...
[10:07] <zpow> Seveas, buy a dell u'll get a recovery partition with ubuntu :-)
[10:07] <Seveas> yeah. Sitting in a hotel room with no wifi and no working openoffice does make you kinda queesy :)
[10:08] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: mhm or having your boss destroy his distro for the fifth time (no idea how, he wouldnt tell) and wanting from you to recover his data...
[10:09] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, fortunately my boss is not that dumb :)
[10:09] <remoteCTRL> or reinstalling win on the other partition and having therefore no more grub in the mbr, etc, etc, etc...
[10:09] <Seveas> (he only loses everyones mail)
[10:09] <oCean> let's move the discussion back to support please, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <Seveas> oCean, there's no support going on at the moment
[10:09] <zpow> remoteCTRL, tell him to buy central storage and store his data over the net
[10:09] <w98ue98u> I've looked at all the commands for ecryptfs-recover-private and mount-private, yet this process isn't working. The process I want is: I have the 32 character (name of what this is) for my private home, I have to change the users passwd, and then recover and rewrap the wrapped-passphrase
[10:09] <oCean> Seveas: so? chit chat is still in -offtopic, not here
[10:09] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: well... he's a university professor, so not precisely dumb... i dunno :D
[10:09] <Seveas> if there is, we're right on top. Oh look there's a question :)
[10:10] <w98ue98u> so from booting into recovery mode, and running passwd user, what steps? right now it fails as recovery is a readonly system
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> QUESTIONALERT!! QUESTIONALERT!!
[10:10] <oCean> remoteCTRL: pleaes don't
[10:10] <Seveas> w98ue98u, to make it read-write: mount -o remount,rw /
[10:10] <oCean> please*
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> oCean: APOLOGIES..
[10:11] <Seveas> w98ue98u, and please stand by. I know Kees Cook wrote some good artivles about ecryptfs, trying to find them now
[10:11] <mazhar> hi
[10:11] <mazhar> how u
[10:11] <flamen> wevones
[10:11] <flamen> kajakaj
[10:11] <mazhar> buntu is better then window
[10:11] <mazhar> please give me detail ?
[10:12] <zpow> ofcourse its better it comes with perl preinstalled
[10:12] <w98ue98u> Seveas: it says success, private data mounted read only at /tmp/yaddayaddda yet when i go there it has the same README as /home/user
[10:12] <remoteCTRL> mazhar will be pleased to talk to you about this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <mazhar> what is perl, a programming language
[10:13] <remoteCTRL> mazhar: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and press enter;)
[10:14] <bet0x> There is an way to use ubuntu without that ugly Gnome 3?
[10:14] <StevenR> overnight something happened to the DVB hardware and it appears to have killed all USB functionality. How do I restart the USB subsystems so I get my keyboard back?
[10:14] <w98ue98u> What is the process for recovering an ecrypted home, after you need to change the passwd (unknown) of a user? Of course have the 32 char key.
[10:14] <StevenR> bet0x: yes, use kubuntu or xubuntu or another DE/WM
[10:14] <bet0x> Gnome2 not supported anymore?
[10:14] <StevenR> bet0x: you don't have to reinstall to switch
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: it is not gnome4 but unity it ships with per default
[10:14] <bet0x> coz i really dont like the new stuff
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: there are several alternatives, like KDE Xfce and some more
[10:15] <bet0x> took me 4 years to get an entire school to use Linux
[10:15] <bet0x> now with this new version i dont want to recompile all the things my self, im kinda tired of this...
[10:15] <bet0x> KDE is like the same thing..
[10:15] <bet0x> do you know if anyone is supporting old gnome versions?
[10:16] <oCean> bet0x: gnome2 is dead, you could give xfce a try, which is similar to gnome2 interface
[10:16] <Seveas> rats, where did w98something go
[10:16] <bet0x> i was thinking on that
[10:16] <Seveas> I just found the ingo
[10:16] <Seveas> info*
[10:16] <bet0x> but i do teach linux on an small school for poor kids, i assemble a couple of computers, over 40
[10:16] <bet0x> running all an old ubuntu with gnome2
[10:17] <Seveas> bet0x, you could try linux mint and their gnome-3-fork-that-looks-like-gnome-2
[10:17] <bet0x> gnome3 is like an very big change for them
[10:17] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: xfce has basically almost the same look and feel and feature
[10:17] <Seveas> but in general: the world keeps moving, you can't expect things not to change. Look at windows or mac, they change all the time too.
[10:17] <bet0x> remoteCTRL i considered that.. well xfce will be, time to mod it to looks like gnome :/
[10:17] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: other than that; mint linux, which is an ubuntu fork has an own desktop named mate which is based on gnome2
[10:18] <bet0x> Seveas moving forward doesnt mean "good" always ;)
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: out of my experience only dumb whiners complain because the colour of the window decorator is slightly different. imho no need to customize much
[10:18] <Seveas> bet0x, I hear you :)
[10:19] <bet0x> remoteCTRL im talking about kids, i got my own LFS
[10:19] <sasy> ciao!
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: i unfortunately have to agree with him, i for example cannot stand the unity desktop...
[10:19] <bet0x> dun use ubuntu, i did an install so they can learn in a easy way
[10:19] <sasy> !list
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: so least worries there, kidfs adapt within the minute;)
[10:20] <bet0x> remoteCTRL yep
[10:20] <Seveas> remoteCTRL, in 12.04 it's usable
[10:20] <new2net> How do I remove gdomap?
[10:20] <Seveas> in 11.04 it made me puke
[10:20] <bet0x> remoteCTRL well time to move them to XFCE! :D
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> Seveas: made me cry...
[10:20] <bet0x> a shame users can really choose from version to version
[10:20] <oCean> Seveas, remoteCTRL the support channel cando without the unity rants, thanks
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> bet0x: if you cannot befreind with kde, which in my opinion is the best available desktop at the moment, i guess so...
[10:21] <bet0x> debian with their old "stable" versions does support gnome2 but i didnt wanted to leave ubuntu
[10:21] <curiousx> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:banshee-team/ppa
[10:21] <curiousx> sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <remoteCTRL> oCean: and i can do without you policing me every two minutes, you know? do you have an alias gnea, huh?
[10:21] <curiousx> ups
[10:21] <bet0x> remoteCTRL i do like several desktops, for my own computer i use e17, in the inside an self compiled LFS
[10:21] <curiousx> sry was a mistake =P
[10:21] <oCean> remoteCTRL: not at all. If you wish to discuss channel policy, please /join #ubuntu-ops
[10:22] <bet0x> oCean policy?
[10:22] <bet0x> we can talk about if we like or not?
[10:22] <StevenR> bet0x: if you want xfce, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is what you need
[10:22] <curiousx> bet0x: anf gnome-fallback or some like that ?
[10:22] <remoteCTRL> oCean: i do definitely NOT, but i do wish you to leave me alone, i have no need for you critizisin me
[10:22] <eu92e> process for changing password with encrypted home (old password not known).
[10:23] <Oer> remoteCTRL, please stop it.
[10:23] <Seveas> hey eu92e
[10:23] <eu92e> Seveas: hey again
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> Oer: so oCean needs backup now in harrassing me?
[10:23] <Seveas> eu92e, I was wrong and it wasn't Kees who blooged about ecryptf, it was dustin
[10:23] <oCean> bet0x: policy as in channel guidelines
[10:23] <oCean> !guielines > bet0x
[10:23] <oCean> err
[10:23] <eu92e> Seveas: so, I tried recover-private for /home/user, it asks for MOUNT password, but always mounts it the same (i.e. nothing visible) but I can access the .Private and see the wrapped-passphrase file
[10:24] <oCean> !guidelines > bet0x
[10:24] <curiousx> bet0x: there are also another distro apart of Debian wich support gnome 2 its name is Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
[10:24] <Seveas> eu92e, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory should help, as should some artivles on http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/
[10:24] <eu92e> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[10:24] <Seveas> eu92e, I'm afraid I can be of no further help as I've never done this myself
[10:24] <bet0x> curiousx thanks!
[10:24] <eu92e> already read that Seveas but it doesn't work. ok. thanks
[10:24] <ehsansn> Hi I have synaptic and its list is empty and when I click on reload it crashes
[10:24] <curiousx> np
[10:24] <Seveas> eu92e, can I pm you?
[10:24] <bet0x> oCean see how easy was, curiousx did an proper answer to my question! :D no need guidelines, need support :]
[10:25] <eu92e> Seveas: of course
[10:25] <flamen> buenas animalitos
[10:26] <bet0x> curiousx Ubuntu Ultimate Edition has support on this channel or has an separated channel?
[10:26] <curiousx> idk =(
[10:26] <curiousx> but in ubuntu-es dosent support it =(
[10:26] <Myrtti> bet0x: it's not supported here.
[10:26] <bet0x> okey
[10:26] <StevenR> bet0x: I'd give xubuntu-desktop a try :)  (no need to reinstall)
[10:27] <bet0x> Myrtti i will google my self! thanks
[10:27] <bet0x> Myrtti can i pm u for another reason, need ask something related to FN
[10:27] <curiousx> but they have theirs own channel as wll
[10:27] <curiousx> well
[10:28] <bet0x> curiousx thanks for your time, i will G about Ubuntu Ultimate Edition!
[10:28] <curiousx> bet0x: this is kinda OT but... http://ultimateedition.info/
[10:28] <Myrtti> bet0x: of course.
[10:28] <Oer> ehsansn, maybe answer #7 is any help to remove defect lists & build new >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10780434&postcount=7
[10:30] <bet0x> Seveas gnome-fallback will do the job with gnome-shell! i will do an testing of that mix!
[10:31] <mario_> halooo
[10:31] <hank3three3chat> shot in the dark here, but have you tried updating your graphics card?
[10:31] <Scott_Z> what command do i use to look up the pid of a running program? It seems my firefox is "already running" and I have to kill it to restart it.
[10:31] <llutz_> Scott_Z: pgrep firefox
[10:32] <rileyp> Scott_Z: killall firefox-bin
[10:32] <rileyp> or .bin
[10:32] <llutz_> Scott_Z: "pkill firefox" To skip the pid-finding
[10:33] <Scott_Z> p
[10:33] <Scott_Z> none of the suggestions worked. any others?
[10:34] <Seveas> killall -9 firefox
[10:34] <curiousx> bet0x: take a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQXKrH46wI
[10:34] <Seveas> -9 means "kill it with fire, don't give it a chance"
[10:34] <vilmar> password
[10:34] <llutz_> Scott_Z: pgrep firefox         was empty? would mean, no firefox-process running at all
[10:35] <Scott_Z> it says "firefox: no process found"
[10:35] <curiousx> bet0x: http://goo.gl/DIqjN  source link: http://goo.gl/HndeC
[10:35] <Seveas> Scott_Z, that means it isn't running.
[10:35] <Seveas> Scott_Z, how about killall -9 firefox-bin (older versions were named that)
[10:36] <sivapvarma> can any one tell me how to enable local services on bluetooth in ubuntu 11.10
[10:36] <Scott_Z> when i try to start firefox I get "Firefox is already running, but not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."
[10:36] <sivapvarma> i need to share internet from my PC to my nokia phone
[10:36] <Scott_Z> I have already tryied the restart. any ideas?
[10:36] <bet0x> oCean that links must be added to your bot!
[10:37] <Oer> Scott_Z, you can try remove ~/.mozilla
[10:37] <sivapvarma> how to access blueman's local services in ubuntu 11.10
[10:37] <Seveas> Oer, Scott_Z: don't do that
[10:37] <Seveas> it removes all extensions and bookmarks too
[10:37] <sivapvarma> I have installed version 1.22 on ubuntu 11.10
[10:37] <oCean> bet0x: what are you talking about?
[10:37] <vilmar> http://www.randyblue.com/frontpage?mpa3=102618|1|1|0|0|0|1344756
[10:37] <bet0x> oCean http://goo.gl/DIqjN  source link: http://goo.gl/HndeC
[10:37] <Seveas> Scott_Z, you'll need to remove ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock -- that's the lockfile it looks for
[10:38] <bet0x> oCean to get gnome2 like on ubuntu without downgrade the distro nor change of distro!
[10:38] <curiousx> Scott_Z: i didnt see your question can you repeat it?
[10:38] <curiousx> oh! excuse me ill go up =P
[10:40] <curiousx> Scott_Z:
[10:40] <Scott_Z> firefox wont start says it is already started.
[10:40] <Seveas> Scott_Z, you'll need to remove ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock -- that's the lockfile it looks for
[10:40] <sivapvarma> how to access blueman's local services in ubuntu 11.10
[10:40] <Scott_Z> looking for the lock file but cant seem to find it.
[10:40] <oCean> bet0x: no, it will not be added to the bot since it is unofficial, not supported and likely to break things
[10:40] <sivapvarma> I want to share internet over bluetooth
[10:41] <bet0x> oCean packages on ubuntu, approbed by ubuntu, aren't official?
[10:42] <Oer> bet0x, packages are, method is not. Depencies are likely to break things up.
[10:43] <curiousx> bet0x: i just wanted to show ya that in ubuntu 12.04 we will be able to run the clasic gnome =P
[10:43] <bet0x> curiousx yep, thanks for the help all of you!
[10:44] <Scott_Z> i found a dir named lock and removed the only file in it but that did not work either
[10:45] <curiousx> Scott_Z: do ya want to taste this ? http://i.imgur.com/KhVcU.png  http://i.imgur.com/zYGBD.png ?
[10:45] <rileyp> Scott_Z:  just reboot and save yourself the pain
[10:46] <Scott_Z> i have rebooted. thats the problem
[10:47] <rileyp> Scott_Z:  remove firefox and reinstall it  Ive never seen firefox do that
[10:48] <sivapvarma> how to access local services options of blueman in ubuntu 11.10
[10:48] <Scott_Z> thats what i am trying now
[10:49] <llutz_> Scott_Z: find ~/.mozilla -name ".parentlock" -delete
[10:51] <hm_> hi, does anybody here have ideas about configuring proxy servers?
[10:53] <aleale97> Hi everyone... Problems¿
[10:54] <sivapvarma> how to access local services options of blueman in ubuntu 11.10
[10:55] <Prabz> Hi, I'm trying to run apt-get update. However I'm getting this sort of error: Have searched various forums but unable to find a solution W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric InRelease: File /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_ubuntu-mozilla-security_ppa_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_InRelease doesn't start with a clearsigned message
[10:55] <Awolf> Any suggestion on any software that would help create a customized Ubuntu installation?
[10:57] <hank3three3chat> does anybody know if wacom pen and touch works on 11.10 and if so is it out of the box, or are there instructions to get it working
[10:59] <curiousx> Prabz: run this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897649/
[11:00] <pangolin> !gpgerror
[11:00] <pangolin> !pgp
[11:00] <hm_> Hi, I have mentioned my problem in the pastebin. Please have a look and let me know. This is about wireless devices and proxy server configuration. http://pastebin.com/2NbwvRbt
[11:01] <Prabz> curiousx: I have the signature installed. but now it gives GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 Launchpad PPA for Mozilla Team
[11:02] <weijie> hello
[11:02] <curiousx> did you run the script ?
[11:02] <weijie> ok
[11:03] <sacarlson> awolf: there are a few ways this is just one of them https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:03] <curiousx> weijie: aloha
[11:04] <Prabz> curiousx: yes, I did
[11:04] <curiousx> so now try, sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <remoteCTRL> hm_: i cannot quite see how this question is ubuntu related, do you have some ubuntu derivate running on your wtr54?
[11:05] <Prabz> The entire error is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897655/
[11:05] <weijie> i'am china,so english is bad
[11:05] <remoteCTRL> !sn
[11:05] <Prabz> curiousx: The entire listing is http://paste.ubuntu.com/897655/
[11:05] <yetone> 我知道你是中国人！
[11:05] <curiousx> ok
[11:05] <weijie> 你怎么知道的？
[11:05] <yetone> 你的名字
[11:06] <yetone> 明显是拼音
[11:06] <FloodBot1> yetone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <weijie> haha
[11:06] <yetone> 我來自中華民國
[11:06] <weijie> 明白
[11:06] <weijie> 台湾的
[11:07] <yetone> 歡迎中華人民共和國的公民
[11:07] <Myrtti> !cn | yetone, weijie
[11:07] <weijie> yetone
[11:07] <curiousx> Prabz: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo apt-get update
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> !cn | weijie | yetone
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> gosh
[11:08] <weijie> 3k u
[11:08] <curiousx> and paste the update again, it ill have some error but removing them from the "software-properties-gtk" will be solved
[11:09] <Prabz> curiousx: ok..
[11:09] <remoteCTRL> can you please help me remove my "input service connection timeout" issue when trying to use a bluetooth keyboard?
[11:10] <Xeneth_> remoteCTRL: Just from that, it sounds like it's unable to connect to the keyboad Via bluetooth.
[11:11] <remoteCTRL> the other way arround, the keyboard and the  mouse appear "paired" but when attemting to actually connect them the above error appears in the information tray
[11:12] <Prabz> curiousx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897663/
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> Xeneth_: i have therefore heard for the first time that there is such a thing. an "input service"
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> strange thing is, it was working until i reinstalled kubuntu yesterday
[11:13] <Guest72321> ciao
[11:13] <Guest72321> !lista
[11:13] <g0th> hi, how do I add additional desktops, I use ubuntu oneiric with unity
[11:13] <Xeneth_> remoteCTRL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothInputDevices
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> g0th: for example sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:13] <g0th> I already installed that one
[11:13] <g0th> it is broken
[11:14] <g0th> originally I used kubuntu
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> g0th: xfce4?
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> gnome?
[11:14] <g0th> I have gnome-desktop
[11:14] <g0th> I said unity
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> Xeneth_: thanks, i will have a lokk at it
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> g0th: sounds like xface is the only alternative then?
[11:15] <g0th> ?
[11:15] <g0th> xface?
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> xfce4
[11:15] <g0th> I don't understand
[11:15] <g0th> alternative?
[11:16] <g0th> my question is: how do I add additional desktops in unity
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> Xeneth_: do you think i should give a "manual" installation a shot instead of the "automagic" onboard means?
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> g0th: OH, i see
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> :D
[11:16] <ryannathans> hmm... I created an iSCSI target. I created a ZFS mounted at /tank that I want to use for iSCSI. How does one allocate this for use? I only seem to be able to allocate image files. I want to use the entire /tank drive (4TB)
[11:16] <g0th> I tried using ccsm
[11:17] <g0th> but no changes there had any effect
[11:17] <curiousx> Prabz: sudo software-properties-gtk   and go to "other softwares" locate  the line correspond with "wine" and "mozilla"
[11:17] <g0th> my horizontal virtual size is 8
[11:17] <Xeneth_> remoteCTRL: Not sure.  I did a quick search for "input service" and that's what came up.  It looks to be mainly focused on older OS's, but may give an Idea as to what to try/look for.
[11:17] <g0th> but I have only 6 desktops
[11:17] <curiousx> and remove them
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> g0th: i was just about to suggest exactly that, i dont know of any other way...
[11:18] <g0th> where is it stored in gconf?
[11:18] <g0th> maybe I need to change it manually
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> Xeneth_: hmmm...
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> g0th: soory but i have currently no gnome installed i couldnt tell...
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> was there not a search option in the gconf editor?
[11:19] <Prabz> curiousx: done.
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> look for virtual desktop
[11:20] <curiousx> Prabz: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:20] <Prabz> g0th: In ccsm go to general settings, desktops. make vertical size as 1 and horizontal as 8, since you so desire.
[11:20] <ryannathans> hmm... I created an iSCSI target. I created a ZFS mounted at /tank that I want to use for iSCSI. How does one allocate this for use? I only seem to be able to allocate image files. I want to use the entire /tank drive (4TB)
[11:20] <g0th> Prabz: it doesn't change anything
[11:21] <Prabz> curiousx: updating
[11:21] <curiousx> its everything ok?
[11:21] <g0th> Prabz: .gconf/apps/compizconfig-1/profiles/unity/general/screen0/options/%gconf.xml <- this file still has 6 desktops everywhere, i changed them to 8
[11:21] <g0th> how do I make "unity" apply this?
[11:22] <Prabz> curiousx: Its still running. I'm behind a proxy so it takes longer
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> g0th: from your description this sounds like you should file  a bugreport ..?
[11:23] <Prabz> g0th: I'm not sure how. But I'm sure unity uses dconf rather than gconf
[11:24] <sivapvarma> how to open local services  window in blueman in ubuntu 11.10
[11:24] <sivapvarma> I ahve installed version 1.22
[11:24] <g0th> I don't know what dconf/gconf is and who uses what
[11:24] <g0th> dconf is not really installed
[11:25] <sivapvarma> I know a way that works with gnome 2 indicators
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> Prabz: g0th the dconf question is answered here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91403/when-to-use-gconf-vs-dconf
[11:26] <g0th> thx
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> g0th: says there "As a rule of thumb, check dconf first and if what you're looking for isn't there, try gconf." so Prabz is right! dconf-editor it is!
[11:27] <g0th> but in my case dconf is not even installed
[11:27] <ryannathans> hmm... I created an iSCSI target. I created a ZFS mounted at /tank that I want to use for iSCSI. How does one allocate this for use? I only seem to be able to allocate image files. I want to use the entire /tank drive (4TB)
[11:27] <g0th> so nothing uses dconf
[11:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm. I thought the dconf editor was not installed by default but things in 11.10+ uses dconf
[11:27] <Prabz> curiousx: now update works. But somehow I do need those repositories that were deleted..
[11:28] <curiousx> so re install it
[11:28] <Prabz> g0th: it isn't really a choice presented to the application that it will revert to gconf in absence of dconf.. Dconf-editor isn't installed by default. try installing
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> g0th: it says there: everything that comes from GNOME - uses dconf (if anything). Almost everything else that is available uses gconf," so that implies that also unity uses dconf
[11:29] <angs> what does "export a pin" mean?
[11:29] <curiousx> wine: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine ; sudo apt-get update...
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> or the other way arround -.-
[11:29] <g0th> yeah but I'm telling you I don't have dconf installed
[11:29] <g0th> so nothing uses dconf in my case
[11:30] <curiousx> and what ever PPA mozilla you want
[11:30] <Prabz> g0th: try
[11:30] <g0th> ouff
[11:30] <g0th> ok
[11:30] <angs> j c++
[11:30] <g0th> but can you promise me that it won't mess up my system?
[11:30] <remoteCTRL> g0th: install it and give it a shot, as it is already broken, what can you do, double break it...?
[11:30] <g0th> because there are two competing systems?
[11:30] <g0th> kde is broken
[11:30] <hank3three3chat> anybody know how to get a wacom table working on 11.10? plugged it in, but its not working
[11:30] <g0th> gnome-desktop is not
[11:31] <ryannathans> Do I NEED to use a logical volume for iSCSI?
[11:31] <g0th> I just don't know how to change the number of desktops
[11:31] <g0th> how do I do that with dconf?
[11:31] <curiousx> for example:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable ; sudo apt-get update...
[11:31] <Prabz> curiousx: thing is I did just add mozilla package and it shot up the error
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> g0th: yes you do but it isnt working as far as i understood you?
[11:31] <Dr_willis> g0th,  depends on if you are using unity, gnome-shell, or fallback.
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: unity it is for him
[11:32] <curiousx> as you like if you dont want to add mozilla's PPA so: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-trunk/
[11:32] <remoteCTRL> g0th: you can of course always try and reinstall KDE
[11:32] <g0th> I already tried that
[11:32] <g0th> it is a bug in the update system probably
[11:32] <g0th> I tried for several days
[11:33] <remoteCTRL> did you only remove it or did you PURGE it?
[11:33] <g0th> in the end someone suggested that I just try gnome-desktop
[11:33] <g0th> that worked
[11:33] <curiousx> there is the night version. firefox 14: im runing right now: http://i.imgur.com/zYGBD.png  http://i.imgur.com/KhVcU.png
[11:33] <g0th> it is still here
[11:33] <g0th> I just don't login with it
[11:33] <remoteCTRL> g0th: days? you'd have reinstalled it in half an hour...? as a last resort?
[11:33] <g0th> Dr_willis: unity
[11:33] <Dr_willis> ccsm tool - general tab. should have a setting for unity i belive is how i normally change it.
[11:33] <g0th> remoteCTRL: I tried for days to get my kde desktop working
[11:34] <remoteCTRL> Dr_willis: he did that, only it isnt taking affect
[11:34] <Prabz> curiousx: It gives up a hash sum mismatch error
[11:34] <g0th> remoteCTRL: reinstall didn't work
[11:34] <remoteCTRL> g0th: once again, did you REMOVE it or did you PURGE it?
[11:34] <g0th> remove what?
[11:34] <g0th> I didn't remove kde-desktop
[11:34] <daviddoria> I want to make a shortcut key that shuts down the computer. is that possible?
[11:34] <curiousx> paste it
[11:34] <Prabz> curiousx: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_ubuntu-wine_ppa_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[11:34] <remoteCTRL> g0th: the difference being that in the first case you keep the config files, which most probably brings you back to sqaure one
[11:35] <g0th> ah you mean when reinstalling
[11:35] <Prabz> daviddoria: sure, but you'll need to enter your password everytime
[11:35] <g0th> yeah I purged and reinstalled etc
[11:35] <g0th> still broken
[11:35] <g0th> I tried for days
[11:35] <remoteCTRL> g0th: so do that for a try. just purge it off the system and reinstall it. in my experience it tends to work again then
[11:35] <g0th> it is fubar
[11:35] <Prabz> just create a .desktop file and point it to "gksu shutdown -h 0"
[11:35] <g0th> remoteCTRL: I just told you
[11:35] <daviddoria> Prabz, Hm that's annoying. The whole reason I want this is because I have a computer that doesn't always have a monitor, so I just want to press a key and turn it off without any interaction
[11:35] <g0th> remoteCTRL: I will not walk that path again and waste another week
[11:35] <remoteCTRL> so why dont you give a fresh install a shot? it appears that your system is messed up on several fronts?
[11:36] <angs> what does this command do " echo 38 > /sys/class/gpio/export  "?
[11:36] <g0th> yeah thats the best
[11:36] <g0th> but I don't have time
[11:36] <g0th> and gnome works very well
[11:36] <g0th> I just want to change the number of desktops
[11:36] <g0th> from 6 to 8 or 10
[11:36] <curiousx> mmm... remove it from: software-properties-gtk
[11:36] <jrib> daviddoria: why don't you use the powerbutton for that?
[11:36] <remoteCTRL> angs: it writes the number 38 to the file /sys/class/gpio/export
[11:36] <daviddoria> jrib, it doesn't seem to do anything when I press the power button
[11:37] <Prabz> daviddoria: reason is only a process in superuser mode can give shutdown command
[11:37] <curiousx> idk whats happening =(
[11:37] <remoteCTRL> g0th: dude, installing takes 20 minutes, custoizing another 2 that saves days in your case?
[11:37] <g0th> how do I reload unity/compiz?
[11:37] <Xeneth_> angs: "echo 38" prints echo on the screen  ">" sends it to a file  "/sys/class/gpio/export" is the file it's sent to
[11:37] <jrib> daviddoria: does the computer run X?+
[11:37] <Dr_willis> and in 11.10+ i belive .gconf/apps/compizconfig-1 has changed.  i saw it mentioned at the webupd8 blog site. Also if you are using Unity2d its differnt
[11:37] <daviddoria> jrib,  yea it's a normal kde environment
[11:37] <Xeneth_> angs: err prints "38"
[11:37] <g0th> remoteCTRL: to get to the point where I am now it took me around 5 months
[11:37] <jrib> daviddoria: you should modify /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh (I think)
[11:37] <Prabz> curiousx: could it be due to the fact I'm behind a proxy?
[11:37] <daviddoria> ok i'll look at that, thanks
[11:38] <g0th> remoteCTRL: so fresh install would work in 1-2 days I guess, but then everything needs to be setup again
[11:38] <angs> Xeneth_: what does "export a pin" means?
[11:38] <g0th> remoteCTRL: also I would need to carefully create backups of all needed stuff first
[11:38] <jrib> daviddoria: without X running, I think it will initiate a shutdown (see last line), but if X is running it prompts the user (see previous lines)
[11:38] <remoteCTRL> g0th: 1-2 days??? are you doing a netinstall via gsm??
[11:38] <g0th> remoteCTRL: the main issue is that my home directory is encrypted
[11:38] <g0th> if I could "unencrypt it"
[11:38] <remoteCTRL> g0th: no issue at all
[11:38] <g0th> I could just reinstall the system and mount my original home
[11:39] <Prabz> g0th: Why do you need a backup. Don't you have your home directory on a separate partition?
[11:39] <g0th> yeah but it is encrypted
[11:39] <remoteCTRL> g0th: since your gnome desktop does work just append an external hard disk, copy all of your home dir, reinstall, copy back
[11:39] <daviddoria> jrib, oh cool, so I could just move that last line to the top if i always want it to just shutdown. will i have the "you're not root" problem?
[11:39] <g0th> that's 2 TB
[11:39] <Xeneth_> angs: That one I am not sure
[11:39] <curiousx> idk
[11:40] <g0th> "just ..."
[11:40] <remoteCTRL> g0th: if you were clever enuff to partition your system to have an own home partition you can of course also do that
[11:40] <angs> Xeneth_, remoteCTRL: thank you
[11:40] <g0th> can I "uncencrypt" my home?
[11:40] <g0th> it is only causing me problems
[11:40] <jrib> daviddoria: you can probably just move the line near the top, yes (and you should comment the rest of it).  You won't have the "you're not root" problem because the program that monitors for this button press runs as root I believe
[11:40] <remoteCTRL> g0th: so it takes 2 hours, so? better than wasting days on kde??
[11:40] <curiousx> oh! if you try to install it and if the proxy is a cache proxy it possible
[11:40] <remoteCTRL> g0th: nope you cannot
[11:40] <g0th> remoteCTRL: you have no idea what you're talking about
[11:41] <remoteCTRL> g0th: same with encrypting, all data are being overwritten
[11:41] <g0th> remoteCTRL: I know from a lot of experience that this _will_ take time, _A LOT_ of time
[11:41] <g0th> I already did similar things in the bast
[11:41] <g0th> past
[11:41] <daviddoria> jrib, brb going to try it :)
[11:41] <g0th> it all seems simple and fast but in the end it takes sooo much time
[11:41] <remoteCTRL> g0th: well i do that for a profession...
[11:41] <Prabz> curiousx: still doesn't work :-/
[11:41] <g0th> how do I restart compiz/unity?
[11:41] <g0th> remotCTRL: ok, so you should know
[11:42] <g0th> remoteCTRL, sry
[11:42] <curiousx> do an update and paste it
[11:42] <remoteCTRL> g0th: thats waht im saying:)
[11:42] <g0th> ok, so you see that it takes too much time :)
[11:42] <ryannathans> What's the best way to create a 'drive' for use as a iSCSI target? I have /tank mounted and wish to use that, however, I am told that /etc/iet/ietd.conf only allows images or drives in /dev/. I can't find my /tank in /dev/
[11:42] <trijntje> what is the best way to create an image of a harddisk? I usualy use dd, but I would like something with error checking
[11:43] <remoteCTRL> g0th: you nkow what? it really depends on what hardware you're using.
[11:43] <Xeneth_> ryannathans: I think you can type "mount" and it will show your mounts
[11:43] <remoteCTRL> g0th: i could tell you one very quick fix, but it involves spending money...
[11:43] <g0th> hmm, how?
[11:43] <Xeneth_> ryannathans: That way you can see the device that is mounted at /tank
[11:43] <g0th> buy external 3TB drive, copy home, reinstall, create unencrypted home, copy back?
[11:43] <Dr_willis> trijntje,  ddrescue for failing hardware, or fsarchiver
[11:44] <abruski> is there any way to run ubuntu-bug in terminal without GUI
[11:44] <remoteCTRL> g0th: insert a second harddisk, install ubuntu there and use the other harddisk as home partition
[11:44] <curiousx> also if you can clean the proxy's cache, do it
[11:44] <g0th> I plan to do something like this
[11:44] <g0th> with SSD for my main system
[11:44] <g0th> this is the long term goal
[11:44] <curiousx> becouse your sistem is going to download the package in the proxy
[11:44] <ryannathans> Xeneth_: thanks
[11:44] <daviddoria> jrib, so right now I press the power button and nothing at all happens
[11:44] <curiousx> W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_ubuntu-wine_ppa_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_main_source_Sources   Hash Sum mismatch
[11:44] <g0th> for now I'm too busy to do anything and I need my system
[11:44] <remoteCTRL> g0th: o yourself the favour and buy a fast 72GB solid state disk! ;)
[11:44] <curiousx> unps sry
[11:44] <g0th> yeah :)
[11:45] <daviddoria> isn't it supposed to popup the shutdown menu or something?
[11:45] <remoteCTRL> g0th: exactly!
[11:45] <g0th> how do I restart compiz/unity?
[11:45] <trijntje> Dr_willis: thanks, I'll look into those
[11:45] <g0th> I made some gconf changes that might help
[11:45] <g0th> so I would like to "apply" them
[11:45] <ryannathans> Xeneth_: 'sudo mount' doesn't display what's device /tank is. It doesn't even display tank. Tank is a mounted ZFS.
[11:45] <remoteCTRL> g0th: compiz --replace
[11:45] <ryannathans> Xeneth_: I want to create an iSCSI target 'drive' on /tank without using images
[11:46] <remoteCTRL> g0th: or just log out and in again
[11:46] <g0th> compiz isn't running
[11:46] <g0th> ok I try that
[11:46] <g0th> somehow compiz is used or ccsm even though it isn't running
[11:46] <remoteCTRL> unity? always
[11:47] <Xeneth_> ryannathans: Then it's not a mount, but simply a directory.  In that case, you may make a symbolic link if needed, but not 100% on what you are trying to do.
[11:47] <Dr_willis> unity3d uses compiz, unity2d does not.
[11:47] <Prabz> curiousx: the same error
[11:47] <remoteCTRL> g0th: what Dr_willis said
[11:47] <g0th> but it still uses the ccsm settings?
[11:48] <curiousx> paste it
[11:48] <curiousx> all the update
[11:48] <remoteCTRL> because it IS compiz in unity 3d
[11:48] <g0th> I mean unity-2d
[11:48] <Dr_willis> ccsm is making changes to the dconf things that compiz reads.. so yes..
[11:48] <g0th> it seems to be using a lot of settings from ccsm
[11:48] <g0th> hmm
[11:48] <g0th> but I don't have dconf installed?
[11:48] <Prabz> curiousx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897701/
[11:49]  * g0th is confused
[11:49] <ryannathans> Xeneth_: I am trying to follow a guide to set up iSCSI. /tank has the free space 4TB. My OS drive is 60GB. /tank is a ZFS (very similar to raid-5). 'mount' hasn't mounted /tank.
[11:49] <remoteCTRL> g0th: from what i have understood not per default
[11:49] <remoteCTRL> g0th: dont worry that happens to the best of us :D
[11:49] <Medjai>  I'm having an issue after an update last night on 12.04. I can no longer see anything after the login screen
[11:49] <curiousx> well much better than the begining =P
[11:49] <Medjai> has anyone run into this?
[11:50] <jrib> !12.04 | Medjai
[11:50] <remoteCTRL> Medjai: do you still have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?   if so try renaming it to xor.conf.bak and login again
[11:50] <curiousx> so remove thar PPA with: software-properties-gtk
[11:50] <g0th> so dconf is used without the package dconf beeeing installed?
[11:50] <Dr_willis> unity2d has its own set of tweaking tools i belive. I never bother with unity2d
[11:50] <Prabz> curiousx: well.. problem with wine?
[11:50] <rileyp> Medjai try ctrl alt and f1
[11:50] <curiousx> and you can try maybe the beta PPA if exists =P
[11:50] <Medjai> i can get to the terminal
[11:50] <Medjai> that's not the issue
[11:50] <daviddoria> jrib, strange, it didn't do anything with the default, but when I commented everything but the last line it works like a charm
[11:50] <daviddoria> thanks for the help!
[11:51] <jrib> daviddoria: no problem
[11:51] <remoteCTRL> g0th: enter dpkg -l "*dconf*" to a terminal and you will see that it is very installed...;)
[11:51] <g0th> I try to login again now
[11:51] <Medjai> remoteCTRL: you maybe right i noticed there was an update for the xorg package yesterday
[11:51] <pangolin> Medjai, support for 12.04 in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:51] <curiousx> or in other way just doble click in wine.deb, or if you like compile (i dont thin so =P) then compil it :D
[11:51] <sivapvarma> how to share internet over bluetooth to my android phone in ubuntu 11.10
[11:51] <g0th> just libdconf
[11:51] <rileyp> then have a look at  /etc/X11/xorg.conf or just remove it and the make new one
[11:51] <curiousx> think*
[11:51] <sivapvarma> how to share internet over bluetooth to my android phone in ubuntu 11.10
[11:51] <remoteCTRL> g0th: that obviously dioes the job...
[11:51] <sivapvarma> how to share internet over bluetooth to my android phone in ubuntu 11.10
[11:52] <Prabz> curiousx: I have a compiled version.. But I like things in order..
[11:52] <sivapvarma> how to share internet over bluetooth to my android phone in ubuntu 11.10
[11:52] <curiousx> so do something, ill helpya enough sorry
[11:52] <remoteCTRL> Medjai: enter ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf that tells you whether you still have one
[11:52] <sivapvarma> i have installed blueman
[11:52] <sivapvarma> but i am not getting any
[11:52] <sivapvarma> localservices option
[11:52] <curiousx> if anyone help ya im living =P
[11:52] <pangolin> remoteCTRL, Please use #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[11:52] <sivapvarma> to enable NAP
[11:53] <remoteCTRL> pangolin: aye!
[11:53] <pangolin> Thank you
[11:53] <sivapvarma> please help me
[11:53] <remoteCTRL> pangolin: thank your for making me aware
[11:53] <Medjai> lets talk there remore
[11:53] <Medjai> remoteCTRL:
[11:53] <Prabz> curiousx: Thanks
[11:53] <curiousx> i mean i helped ya*
[11:53] <rileyp> sivapvarma: its normal to use wifi to connect your phone to the net
[11:54] <rileyp> not BT never done it I cant help sorry
[11:54] <g0th> I try relogin now
[11:54] <g0th> thx
[11:54] <curiousx> cya
[11:55] <sivapvarma>  i dont have wifi in my pc
[11:55] <sivapvarma> rileyp: I dont have wifi in my PC
[11:55] <sivapvarma> so I have to go with bluetooth
[11:55] <sec_> http://ta-vietnamtravel.com can anyone access this site?
[11:55] <rileyp> sivapvarma:  what do you hope to do? pair your phone with your desktop via bt and get it on the net?
[11:56] <sivapvarma> rileyp: yeah right
[11:57] <sivapvarma> I have a wired connection to my PC
[11:57] <g0th> re
[11:57] <g0th> still 6 desktops
[11:57] <rileyp> sivapvarma: its normal to use a  broafband wifi router modem and have everything connect via it
[11:57] <g0th> how do I change that with dconf?
[11:57] <remoteCTRL> sec_: allthough it is a question for the #ubuntu-offtopic, yes i can
[11:58] <sivapvarma> rileyp: http://blog.larsstrand.org/2009/04/sharing-internet-connection-over.html  it seems to have a solultion
[11:58] <remoteCTRL> g0th: frankly spoken no idea...
[11:58] <Prabz> g0th: what session are you using? unity-2d or unity or gnome3?
[11:58] <sec_> remoteCTRL: thanks.
[11:58] <sivapvarma> rileyp: but it couldnot find that window in ubuntu 11.10
[11:59] <remoteCTRL> sec_: np
[11:59] <g0th> unity-2d
[11:59] <g0th> there was some reason for using 2d instead of 3d, I forgot
[11:59] <Prabz> g0th: that would be graphic card
[11:59] <g0th> some other reason, anyway
[12:00] <sivapvarma> rileyp: one way of getting there is right clicking  on gnome-applet and find that window
[12:00] <gry> sec_, any problem with it, error msg?
[12:00] <sivapvarma> rileyp: but i cannot open gnome-applet in ubuntu 11.10
[12:00] <Prabz> g0th: start over, with a new, blank profile in compiz
[12:00] <g0th> hmm
[12:00] <g0th> in that case I prefer to stay on 6 desktops for now
[12:00] <Xeneth_> ryannathans: Sorry, over my head.  I do know that mount will show mounts rather it's done with mount of fstab, you would need to make /tank it's own partition for it to be mounted.  Other then that, I cannot help.
[12:01] <rileyp> sivapvarma:  i use xfce4 so I cant help  i think dr_willis might be able to help
[12:01] <Prabz> lol
[12:01] <sec_> gry: no, just want to see how that page load
[12:01] <ryannathans> Xeneth_: I worked it out ;) I needed to create a ZFS drive from that 'tank' and that showed up in /dev/zd0 and I worked from there.
[12:01] <Prabz> remoteCTRL: g0th decides to stay on 6 desktops. Problem solved. Lol
[12:01] <ryannathans> thanks
[12:02] <rileyp> how to find this gui in 11.04?  http://blog.larsstrand.org/2009/04/sharing-internet-connection-over.html  it seems to have a solultion
[12:02] <g0th> I don't wanna risk to change anything
[12:02] <remoteCTRL> Prabz: g0th LMAO!
[12:02] <sivapvarma> dr_willis: how can I run gnome-applet  in ubuntu 11.10
[12:02] <g0th> if I do it might open the gates to hell
[12:02] <remoteCTRL> g0th: ya i am currently browsing dconf-editor, i am not finding it there...
[12:02] <g0th> and I need to fix a myriad of things
[12:03] <remoteCTRL> g0th: ... your coice dude...:)
[12:03] <dr_willis1> gotta work on my wireless networking some day. getting major lag
[12:05] <g0th> well reseting also doesn't find the source of the issue it is like giving up and starting from scratch ^^
[12:05] <g0th> like on windows -> something is not working -> just reinstall windows
[12:07] <pangolin> g0th, unfortunately sometimes that is the best and only option
[12:08] <remoteCTRL> g0th: agree with pangolin, if you're not a real bug-terrier, its not worth the effort...
[12:08] <bibi23> hi, I always have permission issues when I developp, I can't edit or delete files created by apache and the opposite too. I've added myself in the www-data group but nothing changed, I always have to do chmod -R 777 on my website folder to fix this, what is the clean solution to avoid that?
[12:09] <jrib> bibi23: make apache write the files with group write permissions
[12:09] <g0th> agree
[12:09] <g0th> but it is also risky
[12:10] <remoteCTRL> g0th: in how far?
[12:10] <g0th> it might cause other unexpected problems
[12:10] <remoteCTRL> g0th: like?
[12:10] <remoteCTRL> :D
[12:10] <g0th> "unexpected"
[12:10] <bibi23> jrib: how can I do that?
[12:10] <g0th> just because a reset is "supposed" to work does not mean it will
[12:10] <remoteCTRL> g0th: well... how did forrest gum say? "life's a box of pralinees..." :D
[12:11] <jrib> bibi23: don't know; probably in apache's init script
[12:11] <g0th> e.g.
[12:11] <g0th> just upgrading ubuntu causes buggy behaviour already
[12:11] <jrib> ...
[12:11] <remoteCTRL> g0th: from my experience out of several years of systems administration it will most likely be ok!
[12:11] <g0th> even though it is supposed to be the same as installing a new version from the start
[12:11] <g0th> I have the opposite experience
[12:12] <remoteCTRL> g0th: no it is NOT the same! not at all!
[12:12] <g0th> yes, I know ^^
[12:12] <g0th> but it "should" be the same
[12:13] <etz> Hello all
[12:13] <jrib> g0th: it is "basically the same"
[12:13] <remoteCTRL> g0th: it cannot be the same! if you wich i can explain to you why, but if so in another channel :)
[12:13] <etz> Is there a new version yet?
[12:13] <jrib> etz: not released yet
[12:13] <etz> When
[12:13] <Prabz> g0th: it should not be the same.. when upgrading you already have a ton of software that might create problems in the newer version
[12:13] <bibi23> jrib: I find out something in /etc/apache2/envvars => export APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data , I think it should be configured here?
[12:14] <bibi23> but there is nothing related to write permissions
[12:14] <jrib> bibi23: that's what google suggests , yes (using that file)
[12:14] <remoteCTRL> etz: 26. of april i believe
[12:14] <g0th> Prabz: well problematic software should be removed by the package system
[12:14] <etz> Thanks
[12:14] <jrib> bibi23: you just add the umask to the end
[12:14] <g0th> Prabz: the point is the package system is not "bug free"
[12:14] <etz> What is the name of it?
[12:15] <g0th> so installing old version, then upgrade is not the same as installing the new version
[12:15] <remoteCTRL> etz: precise pangolin
[12:15] <remoteCTRL> g0th: nope it is definitely not
[12:15] <etz> Pangolin?
[12:15] <g0th> my system is quite old, so all those "bugs" pile up
[12:16] <g0th> and it develops its own "life"
[12:16] <bibi23> jrib: I don't really know I should set up the umask, could you please give me an example?
[12:16] <remoteCTRL> g0th: i hear you...
[12:16] <g0th> so it becomes fragile to any kind of change
[12:16] <g0th> especially "radical resets"
[12:16] <remoteCTRL> g0th: -> offtopic;)
[12:17] <Prabz> g0th: if you want stability, use debian :)
[12:17] <g0th> I'm in offtopic ^^
[12:17] <jrib> bibi23: you understand how umask works?  Think of umask as a "mask", it subtracts permissions away.  So if you want files to have 775 permissions, you would set "umask 002".  If you wanted 770 permissions, you would set "umask 007".  The default umask is 022.
[12:17] <Jaxxy> Could somebody help me? D:
[12:17] <g0th> Prabz: yeah, there it was a bit more reliable in that aspect
[12:17] <jrib> !ask | Jaxxy
[12:18] <Jaxxy> Oh, sorry.
[12:18] <bibi23> jrib: ok I get it, so I think I'd like umask 002
[12:18] <jrib> bibi23: probably, yes
[12:18] <etz> 🐭🏩✈
[12:19] <bibi23> is it 'export umask=002' at the end of the file?
[12:19] <jrib> bibi23: just "umask 002" at the bottom
[12:20] <Jaxxy> I want to remove Ubuntu 11.10 with my Vista recovery disks, usually I'd put the first disk in, shut my computer off and power it on after about 30 seconds. But when I boot it up the recovery process starts, but then it just hangs there doing nothing; is there any way I can fix this?
[12:20] <remoteCTRL> g0th: are you? i cant see you there..?
[12:20] <bibi23> jrib: oj thanks I'm trying it
[12:21] <pangolin> etz, please don't post useless stuff in here
[12:22] <g0th> finally I solved my issue
[12:22] <g0th> I was running metacity I just realized
[12:22] <remoteCTRL> g0th: you did??
[12:22] <g0th> unity-2d with metacity
[12:22] <rileyp> goth rather  than upgrading   system i do a clean install on another partition and copy the home folder and move across to it when its all ready to go so I have no down time and gives me time to sort out any new kernel issues I may encounter.
[12:22] <remoteCTRL> geeez... so now you got your 8 desktops??
[12:22] <g0th> yes
[12:23] <remoteCTRL> unfreakingbelievable!!
[12:23] <g0th> by changing gconf settings with gconf-editor for apps/metacity
[12:23] <g0th> :)
[12:23] <g0th> dconf has no metacity entry
[12:23] <remoteCTRL> g0th: well as soon as you do it right all of a sudden all works, huh? :D
[12:23] <g0th> the key issue was realizing that I was running metacity
[12:24] <Jaxxy>  I want to remove Ubuntu 11.10 with my Vista recovery disks, usually I'd put the first disk in, shut my computer off and power it on after about 30 seconds. But when I boot it up the recovery process starts, but then it just hangs there doing nothing; is there any way I can fix this?
[12:24] <g0th> I thought unity-2d was a window manager on its own
[12:24] <remoteCTRL> g0th: i do understand that :D
[12:24] <g0th> or using compiz
[12:24] <rwq> hello ubuntu lovers
[12:24] <jrib> Jaxxy: this is a ##windows question
[12:24] <g0th> all this seems a bit confusing
[12:24] <g0th> there is gnome, unity, compiz, metacity, dconf, gconf
[12:24] <rwq> do you know if i can use the windows bootloader to run ubuntu?
[12:24] <Jaxxy> D: Oh, sorry.
[12:24] <rwq> the win7 bootloader even
[12:25] <remoteCTRL> rwq: no you cannot
[12:25] <spupuser1> i won't use wubi and unetbootin
[12:25] <rwq> really?  boo
[12:25] <g0th> it feels so much better with 8 desktops :)
[12:25] <remoteCTRL> rwq: the other way around: grub or lilo can perfectly fire up your windows
[12:25] <spupuser1> i won't use lili too
[12:25] <remoteCTRL> g0th: glad you're happy dude! :)
[12:25] <g0th> like if you can finally breath :)
[12:25] <rwq> remoteCTRL, that would work too of course, but the window bootloader can run virtual pc machines so thats nice
[12:26] <rwq> i was hoping to leverage that, but i need my ubuntu
[12:26] <remoteCTRL> rwq: it can??
[12:26] <rwq> yeah  .vhd files
[12:26] <remoteCTRL> rwq: then i see no reason why there should not be a ubuntu in that virtual machine?
[12:26]  * rwq waves with a copy of "Configuring Win7"
[12:27] <remoteCTRL> rwq:  :D cherishing the fresh flow of air!
[12:27] <sacarlson> rwq: you can run ubuntu in virtualbox in windows
[12:27] <spupuser1> i don't think ubuntu can live in a .vhd file
[12:27] <remoteCTRL> rwq: or better use wubi in windows
[12:27] <spupuser1> it's a microsoft format
[12:28] <spupuser1> steve ballmer said: linux is a cancer
[12:28] <remoteCTRL> spupuser1: but it is probably only a container, in which you perform a clean install...?
[12:28] <remoteCTRL> spupuser1: ok i am not gonna comment on what ballmer is...
[12:29] <spupuser1> i think that vhd is designed for running windows vms in windows
[12:29] <spupuser1> vmdk is better
[12:29] <rwq> gonna try doing a ubuntu vhd, i'll report back
[12:30] <remoteCTRL> spupuser1: so how does the windows get into the virtual machine? mostly by installation, right? IF i can install  freshly, why not another OS? wouldn't that be the purpose of virtual machines amongst others?
[12:30] <remoteCTRL> rwq: please do, i would really like to learn whether it owrked!
[12:30] <rileyp> rwq the procedure is create a partition and install windows then grab a usb or cd and install ubuntu if it asks whre to install grub say sda.  Thats it you will be greeted with a grub menu offering ubuntu or windows
[12:31] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: rwq or if desired i can also provide an instruction how to get grub to boot both when you installed it the opther way around...
[12:31] <spych102> is there a single window mode for empathy? it's almost as bad as using the GIMP.
[12:31] <rileyp> rwq windows isnt smart enough to detect ubuntu so no you cannot use a windows boot menu to choose ubuntu
[12:32] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: the question was about virtual machines that the windows bootloader can apparently fire up
[12:33] <rileyp> I didnt see anything about virtual machines my bad sorry
[12:33] <dorin> goodmorning!! anybody can help me to find  "horizsync" and vertirefresh of my monitor? i looked google and the instructon book but i didnt find it
[12:33] <rwq> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHD_(file_format)#Native_VHD_Boot
[12:34] <rwq> searching for "linux" on that page.. 0 hits. haha pathetic
[12:34] <dorin> its a f&u fdh 19882w
[12:35] <remoteCTRL> rwq: although i am not a fan of ms i have to admit that is one heck of a feature...
[12:36] <remoteCTRL> rwq: here's what i know: you can install redhat enterprize linux on windows server2008 so that implies, if this is the same tehcnology, as stated in this article, that it will also work with win7 enterprise nad ultimate
[12:36] <rileyp> dorin you could drop to a tty and kill your gdm and then X -verbose 6 > ~/xlog.txt 2>&1 this will put all your edid data into a file
[12:36] <baconbacon123> Hello
[12:36] <remoteCTRL> rwq: if it works with redhat, i can see no reason, why it wouldnt with ubuntu
[12:37] <baconbacon123> Everytime i open libreiffice on kde my screen fuchs up
[12:37] <rileyp> dorin or look in /var/logs/xorg
[12:37] <dorin> rileyp! im trying to optimize my resolution because nvidia driver allows maximum 640x??, i tryed this my it does not work
[12:38] <rileyp> dorin http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=54685
[12:38] <rwq> remoteCTRL, http://www.vmlite.com/appliances/ubuntu-910-readme.html
[12:39] <dorin> thank you rileyp.. i ll try it
[12:39] <rwq> grrr no that wasn't what i was thinking of
[12:39] <baconbacon123> Hello plum
[12:40] <Guest47019> hi
[12:40] <MrTAToad> Hello
[12:40] <quackers> o/ all
[12:40] <Guest47019> im looking for more information about the zeitgeist thing
[12:40] <MrTAToad> Is there a free application that can package an executable + media without the need for source code
[12:40] <rileyp> dorin you can also use xrandr to find out info about your monitor
[12:40] <remoteCTRL> rwq: reads promising?
[12:41] <baconbacon123> Gcc?
[12:41] <baconbacon123> Wait nm
[12:41] <baconbacon123> Hello ede
[12:41] <Guest47019> test nick
[12:42] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: like a deb file?
[12:42] <rileyp> dorin this guide is better http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=70068
[12:42] <Guest47019> test
[12:42] <MrTAToad> Yes
[12:42] <rileyp> you may need curl installed for teh script to run but ist very easy and makes an uber xorg.conf
[12:42] <remoteCTRL> Guest47019: have a look at this: http://gnomejournal.org/article/70/an-introduction-to-gnome-zeitgeist
[12:42] <MrTAToad> Tried to do it manually, but the Ubuntu team want the source code. - which, whilst possible, would be meaningless
[12:43] <baconbacon123> Hello guest47019
[12:43] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: the deb package can be a program that doesn't require compile such as python
[12:43] <baconbacon123> Why wud it be pointless
[12:43] <MrTAToad> because there is no linux application that can handle the source code
[12:44] <Guest47019> test nick
[12:44] <baconbacon123> Ohhhh
[12:44] <MrTAToad> Thus wouldn't be able to re-compile it
[12:44] <Guest47019> test nick
[12:44] <MrTAToad> Hence I just want to package the executable + media
[12:44] <remoteCTRL> Guest47019: please type into your prompt /nick yourDesiredNick
[12:45] <MrTAToad> And deal with all the "interesting" bits that are needed
[12:45] <msch> hi, if i set up a new ubuntu desktop with 12.04 beta right now, will i be able to aptitude upgrade to 12.04 final?
[12:45] <zpow> can any1 tell me what are the advantages ubuntu has over debian?
[12:45] <MrTAToad> Doing it manually was horrendous
[12:45] <baconbacon123> No it never works
[12:45] <Guest47019> i did /nick plum 5 times now
[12:45] <arand> MrTAToad: Where is it going to be placed?
[12:45] <remoteCTRL> msch no need to it is basically the same
[12:45] <MrTAToad> Whereever executables are placed :)
[12:45] <arand> MrTAToad: PPA? Just used by you privately? Ubuntu archives?
[12:45] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: you could still make a deb file and setup your own repository to distribute
[12:45] <msch> remoteCTRL: yeah, but whatever changes there will be will come via apt right?
[12:46] <remoteCTRL> zpow: it is way more modern, debian is focused on stability, where ubuntuy is focused on usability
[12:46] <MrTAToad> I would hope to get it into the Ubuntu Marketplace
[12:46] <remoteCTRL> msch exactly
[12:46] <msch> remoteCTRL: thanks
[12:46] <baconbacon123> U have to get it in the repos first which is hard
[12:46] <remoteCTRL> msch my pleasure
[12:47] <opdo> hi
[12:47] <remoteCTRL> Guest47019: give it up then :)
[12:47] <MrTAToad> Shame it can't be as easy as Android...
[12:47] <quackers> o/ opdo
[12:47] <Guest47019> what is the zeitgeist main function? what's the use for logging all events?
[12:47] <arand> MrTAToad: Using dh_install with .install file(s) should be simple enough.
[12:47] <remoteCTRL> Guest47019: i just pasted a link for you a little further up, did you see it?
[12:48] <dorin> curl "http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=bU1QFQ3c" | tr -d \\r > nvidia.sh
[12:48] <dorin> sorry, error
[12:48] <opdo> where i see video online how install debian linux step by step?
[12:48] <dr_willis1> Guest47019:  you can generate graphs and history logs of what work you have been working on. and monitor what apps are most used
[12:48] <Oer> opdo debian or ubuntu ?
[12:48] <baconbacon123> U cant just hold on and hope it works it never has der me
[12:48] <zpow> opdo, #debian i guess
[12:49] <MrTAToad> Does it require the source code in order to build the package ?
[12:49] <remoteCTRL> opdo: although this is not a debian help channel: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=install+debian&search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=
[12:49] <Guest47019> @remoteCTRL ok im reading the link
[12:49] <remoteCTRL> Guest47019: enjoy!
[12:50] <Guest47019> ubuntu was good enough without the zeitgeist
[12:50] <dr_willis1> Guest47019:  pointless statement.
[12:50] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: for security to be distributed in the ubuntu repository I would think the source code must be presented,  I would be surprized that android wouldn't be the same
[12:50] <arand> MrTAToad: No, though I'm hesitant to recoomend not including source instead of working on getting the source to buid correctly on Ubuntu ;)
[12:51] <dr_willis1> Guest47019:  disable it if you dont want the feature.
[12:51] <MrTAToad> As I said previously, supplying the source could would be pointless
[12:51] <MrTAToad> Android just takes the executable + media in one package - simples :)
[12:52] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: android as in java code?  that's already the source
[12:52] <MrTAToad> No, using C++
[12:52] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: ubuntu has c++ compilers no problem
[12:52] <MrTAToad> Well C++ and Java
[12:52] <arand> MrTAToad: Is it a proprietary application?
[12:52] <MrTAToad> My android stuff ? Not really, no
[12:53] <remoteCTRL> i am looking to fix my pesky "input service connection timeout" problem when trying to attach my bluetooth mouse and keyboard, any help highly appreciated!
[12:54] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: we even have android development tools in ubuntu that compile c++, so the code can be compiled on ubuntu
[12:54] <MrTAToad> Yes, but I use GLBasic to compile to multiple platforms - unfortunately there is no GLBasic Linux version so it has to be compiled on Windows, for Linux
[12:55] <MrTAToad> Result is just the executable and any media required
[12:55] <MrTAToad> Therefore the only thing to package is executable and media
[12:55] <rwq> is that something like phonegap?
[12:55] <MrTAToad> Is what ?
[12:55] <rwq> glbasic
[12:56] <MrTAToad> Dont know, never heard of phonegap
[12:56] <MrTAToad> Its a multi-platform programming system : Windows, Linux, Mac, Android, Palm, Windows CE, Pandora, GP2X
[12:56] <MrTAToad> And hopefully the Raspberry Pi when it comes out
[12:57] <arand> MrTAToad: Unless that is fixed, it likely won't be accepted in Ubuntu, you can easily make a purely-content package of your own though.
[12:57] <MrTAToad> Shame really - looks like I'll have to stick with other marketplaces then
[12:57] <dr_willis1> raspberry pi can run android or linux..
[12:58] <MrTAToad> Maybe, but only Linux is supported
[13:00] <dr_willis1> The comercial/'for purchase' would not require the source to be included.
[13:01] <spupuser1> don't buy raspberry pi. it's too big
[13:01] <MrTAToad> That would be possible - but would like to do a demo version as well
[13:01] <spupuser1> there is better one. it's called 'cotton candy'
[13:01] <spupuser1> it's smaller and faster
[13:01] <UrB> for a comparable price too
[13:02] <spupuser1> search 'cotton candy' on youtube
[13:02] <spupuser1> don't buy raspberry pi, its arm soc is too weak
[13:03] <spych102> spupeser1: but you can't buy either a raspberry pi or a cotton candy yet
[13:03] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: it apears your glbasic just compiles it basic code into c++,  all you would have to distribute is the c++ out of your glbasic to publish in ubuntu
[13:03] <dr_willis1> spupuser1:  and the cost differance is.. $35  vs $200....
[13:03] <spupuser1> yeah, chinese made mistakes
[13:03] <spupuser1> they are delayed
[13:03] <MrTAToad> Which may not work if it requires compiling
[13:04] <UrB> spupuser1: define "too big" and "too weak" - those seem to lack "for activity / use x" ending
[13:04] <spupuser1> the price is not a problem for me
[13:04] <spych102> what about a beagle bone
[13:04] <spych102> at least you can buy one now
[13:04] <MrTAToad> Besides it means extracting all the source fiules from the temporary directory
[13:04] <MrTAToad> files
[13:04] <spupuser1> you can even buy a 'plug computer' -- arm also
[13:05] <sacarlson> MrTAToad: I told you we have c++ compilers and as I see in this wiki that's how it's done anyway for mac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLBasic
[13:05] <ahmadalza> Title: GLBasic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[13:05] <spupuser1> if you have more money, buy a google tv or apple tv -- they are arm htpcs also
[13:06] <spych102> spupuser1: are there any linaro supported plug computers?
[13:06] <MrTAToad> With Mac, a project is created to which contains all the source files - whereby its all compiled in XCode
[13:06] <spupuser1> a lot
[13:06] <phillijw> Hello best friends. I'm having trouble getting wifi to work. THe driver appears to be installed but I dont see any networks
[13:07] <spupuser1> a google tv or apple tv is much faster and they are arm-based
[13:07] <spupuser1> if you can hack them
[13:07] <spupuser1> this is my survey
[13:07] <MrTAToad> Yes, but you can't carry a TV around with you...
[13:08] <spupuser1> such as, apple tv + xmbc
[13:08] <weox> hello, i have simple problem . i change my vga from nvidia to ATI , my quastion is , realy i need to reinstall ubuntu or just change my driver ??
[13:08] <arand> sacarlson: I'm guessing that if glbasic is the source-source code, distributing the c++ generated version of it wouldn't fly, since that code's likely not something you'd want to actually use..
[13:08] <weox> hello, i have simple problem . i change my vga from nvidia to ATI , my quastion is , realy i need to reinstall ubuntu or just change my driver ??
[13:08] <weox> anybody can help me ?? this is important for me !!
[13:09] <ratcheer> weox:  Just uninstall your old driver, install the new one, and reboot.
[13:09] <spupuser1> using mesa
[13:09] <dr_willis1> weox:  change driver..
[13:09] <spupuser1> and you don't need to bother this problem
[13:09] <weox> ratcheer : tx very much
[13:09] <MrTAToad> Plus finding the correct files would be a problem as they are just numbered
[13:10] <weox> !!
[13:10] <ahmadalza> weox: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
[13:10] <spupuser1> in ubuntu, my pc is fast enough with vesa+mesa
[13:11] <spupuser1> flash video is ok
[13:12] <helpanoob> with ubuntu 11.10 i am not feeling the lay of the land is there anyway to make look like and act like 10.10?
[13:12] <bazhang> !notunity | helpanoob
[13:12] <ahmadalza> bazhang: Error: "notunity" is not a valid command.
[13:12] <MrTAToad> Thanks for the help!  What I'll probably do it zip it all up and then send it to HappyPenguin
[13:12] <bazhang> ahmadalza, hi
[13:12] <ahmadalza> bazhang: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
[13:12] <sacarlson> arand: MrTAToad: I guess it wouldn't hurt to distribute both the glbasic and the c++ code,  but the c++ code I would think in ubuntu distrubution would require compile one the secured ubuntu compilers to prevent tampering.
[13:13] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: you have no idea how much i was looking forward to seeing you! :)
[13:13] <phillijw> broadcom sucks
[13:13] <phillijw> how do I get this dang wireless to work?
[13:13] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: can you maybe help me with my "connection to the input service timed out" problem, when attempting to connect a bluetooth input device, please?
[13:13] <MrTAToad> Wouldn't know what would happen if GCC tries to compile the C++ code...
[13:13] <MrTAToad> Well, must go now...
[13:13] <MrTAToad> Bye
[13:14] <ampharos> SDL apps flicker like crazy on my desktop, Xorg uses VESA drivers, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[13:15] <arand> sacarlson: I'd say the lack of an open-source compiler would make the app in effect closed-source.
[13:16] <sacarlson> arand: it sounds like it's just a cross compiler glbasic to c++,  it shows it's compatible with standard c++ compilers in the wiki
[13:17] <dr_willis1> ampharos:  and yoru video card is what exactly?
[13:18] <arand> sacarlson: Yes, but the c++ code is not likely human-readable, so it wouldn't be built from source, right?
[13:18] <ampharos> Barely a graphics card under Linux. SiS Mirage 3+ - I need to use the VESA driver to get proper video playback.
[13:19] <sacarlson> arand: the glbasic would be readable and someone could confirm the c++ code was derived from the source and the c++ would still compile on the secured compilers
[13:19] <ampharos> Until I get a PCIe graphics card, I'm stuck with this POS
[13:20] <rileyp> ampharos: Barely a graphics card  SiS Mirage 3+............lol how old is it?
[13:20] <rileyp> 10 years?
[13:20] <ampharos> 2006
[13:20] <arand> sacarlson: YOu wouldn't be able to make changes and recompile it, which is one of the basic freedoms.
[13:21] <ampharos> My old ATI from 1998 has far better compatbility and at least I got acceleration!
[13:21] <sacarlson> arand: why wouldn't you be able to change it?  you might need to buy the tools to compile a different version but it's still open source
[13:21] <remoteCTRL> phillijw: whats the error?
[13:23] <phillijw> remoteCTRL: ha, i think it works now. Had to install fwcutter
[13:23] <phillijw> switching devices to test it out
[13:25] <angs> what does "~" mean on "root@beagle:~# " ?
[13:25] <rileyp> ~ means the home dir
[13:26] <phillijw> neato
[13:26] <itaylor57> angs, you shouldn't be root
[13:26] <rileyp> so it would mean /home/root/
[13:26] <angs> what does "/" mean on "root@beagle:/# " ?
[13:26] <llutz> roots home usually is /root not /home/root
[13:27] <itaylor57> angs, it means you are in the "root" dir of the filesystem /
[13:27] <angs> ok, thank you very much
[13:28] <IHateHavingToReg> If someone says "site configuration" file in the context of Apache2 on Ubuntu, what file are they exactly referring to?
[13:28] <llutz> IHateHavingToReg: /etc/apache2/sites-available/site.conf
[13:28] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks
[13:29] <IHateHavingToReg> is it normal for that file to be empty?
[13:29] <llutz> IHateHavingToReg: replace "site" with your actual site-name or default.conf
[13:30] <pocketcookies> I'm trying to compile some code that uses libcurl but when I do "pkg-config --cflags libcurl" or "curl-config --cflags" I get no output.  How do I get libcurl to output the include directory?
[13:30] <llutz> erm, just "site" or "default", without .conf, sry
[13:30] <collinjsimpson> Does anyone know if mounting a filesystem twice is ok?
[13:31] <IHateHavingToReg> ah ok, it was under default
[13:31] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks
[13:31] <Erealz> how do you mount a drive on a remote pc?
[13:31] <llutz> collinjsimpson: why do you want this? better to use bind-mounts  (imho)
[13:32] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: I don't think your really mounting it twice your just mounting a files system from within another file system
[13:33] <remoteCTRL> collinjsimpson: nope, you can basically mount it as often as you like
[13:34] <remoteCTRL> llutz: isnt it only possible with bind mounts..?
[13:34] <llutz> remoteCTRL: no
[13:35] <remoteCTRL> llutz: mhm i just saw..
[13:36] <phillijw> what are some must have apps to install on a fresh install of ubuntu?
[13:36] <phillijw> I have git, irssi, chromium, ...
[13:37] <remoteCTRL> phillijw: in my humble opinion adobe reader is all you need in addition, and maybe pidgin instead of empathy
[13:37] <sacarlson> phillijw: java?
[13:37] <arand> phillijw: That's completely up to you, it's too general a question.
[13:39] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson: Nice to see you again, haha. I tried mounting it twice and it works great. However, that requires me to put two entries in fstab for every shared directory I create.
[13:39] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: cool never hurts to try
[13:39] <collinjsimpson> sacarlson: I just don't know if it's good practice, though I don't see any alternative.
[13:40] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: lets see a copy of your fstab file then pastebinit
[13:40] <llutz> collinjsimpson: why do you need something mounted twice? use "mount --bind"
[13:40] <remoteCTRL> collinjsimpson: why exactly are you doing itactually?
[13:40] <prashant_123456> can i install frontech e-cam jil-2237 on ubuntu???
[13:41] <remoteCTRL> prashant_123456: have a look here: http://linuxhcl.com/
[13:41] <collinjsimpson> llutz, remoteCTRL: I need to set up quotas for shared directories.
[13:41] <remoteCTRL> collinjsimpson: so?
[13:41] <llutz> collinjsimpson: and?
[13:42] <remoteCTRL> collinjsimpson: i mean; i am not quite following yet?
[13:42] <collinjsimpson> llutz, remoteCTRL: I can't use 'quota tools' for quotas on shared directories, so I'm mounting a 50MB file as a filesystem. I then mount that filesystem again using 'bindfs' to allow it to be shared.
[13:43] <sacarlson> collinjsimpson: show them the fstab so llutz, remoteCTRL and others might have a better idea of your actions and desires
[13:43] <llutz> collinjsimpson: /something/already/mounted /newmountpoint none bind,userquota,grpquota 0 0
[13:43] <remoteCTRL> what llutz said!
[13:43] <collinjsimpson> llutz: quota tools does not accomplish what I need. Quotas don't apply to directories mounted with bindfs.
[13:44] <remoteCTRL> beats me...
[13:44] <llutz> collinjsimpson: oops, then i was wrong, sry
[13:46] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, there is no need for the editorial comments. please keep chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , thanks
[13:47] <deadbeef> guys i've just got a netbook with an intel atom n570, what's the best version to install ? is ia64 ok ?
[13:47] <deadbeef> or it's simply i386 ?
[13:47] <bazhang> deadbeef, the i386
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> gosh...
[13:47] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, ?
[13:47] <deadbeef> bazhang: is there a list online somewhere ?
[13:47] <deadbeef> i'm not into those thing
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> bazhang while you're here could you help me with a bluetooth issue, pls?
[13:48] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, please address the channel with your issue, if someone knows, they will answer
[13:48] <remoteCTRL> i keep getting these "connection to the input service timed out" messages when attempting to connect an already paired bluetooth input device
[13:48] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: that i have been doing...
[13:49] <remoteCTRL> ok, i can see you guys don't like me today, i guess ill come back onother day :/
[13:50] <phillijw> each time I reboot I have to modprobe b43 (wireless driver)... why?
[13:50] <rileyp> remoteCTRL: fireaway
[13:50] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: sorry i dunno what that means?
[13:50] <rileyp> buetooth issue please
[13:51] <remoteCTRL> riley oh! :) i keep getting these "connection to the input service timed out" messages when attempting to connect an already paired bluetooth input devic
[13:51] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know when ubuntu 11.04 support stop for updates is it sometime this year?
[13:51] <remoteCTRL> perlsyntax: zwo years support for regular releases and from pangolin on five years for lts versions
[13:52] <rileyp> remoteCTRL: if its already connected ehy are you trying to connect to it again?
[13:52] <cmcintosh> hey gang anyone have any luck getting the sisusb working with ubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:52] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: i should probably mention that this used to work just fine, but since i reinstalled kubuntu yesterday i keep getting this...
[13:52] <perlsyntax> So 11.04 suport end in oct if i am right
[13:53] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: it turns off if you dont use it for a while, which is useful to save battery, but then normally, when i hit any key, i heard the hdd rattling for a moment and then it was back online
[13:53] <perlsyntax> thanks
[13:53] <Sidewinder1> perlsyntax, 10/2012, yes.
[13:54] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: that is not happening anymore, and if i attempt to cconnect it manually by clicking the BT icon in the tray and then hitting the keyboard and clicking "connect" i get the above error
[13:55] <collinjsimpson> llutz, remoteCTRL: Sorry, my client crashed. Thanks for the help. I just wasn't sure if mounting a filesystem to another filesystem was taboo : )
[13:56] <remoteCTRL> collinjsimpson: my pleasure
[13:56] <rileyp> remoteCTRL: So do you need to set a setting somewhere  for it to auto pair? perhaps with teh upgrade this setting has been lost
[13:56] <cmcintosh> :/
[13:57] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: no upgrade. after upgrade to 11.10 it worked, but i had to RE install for reasons i'd rather not mention *g*
[13:58] <cmcintosh> arg
[13:58] <dbugger> hey guys. What happened to the "emblems" tab in nautilus? Its gone!
[13:59] <remoteCTRL> or actually i can mention it: i had to reinstall win and then i wasnt able to reinstall grub on the completely crypted hdd although i was able to open it with cryptsetup  luksOpen grub_install always gave me an error, that the header metadata of the lvm volume were not consistent with the checksum...
[13:59] <cmcintosh> how can you find out if ubuntu is aware of a usb device that is plugged in?
[13:59] <bazhang> cmcintosh, check dmesg ?
[13:59] <remoteCTRL> cmcintosh: lsusb
[14:00] <cmcintosh> k cool
[14:00] <cmcintosh> so it sees the sisusbvga
[14:00] <cmcintosh> seeing this what looks like an error? [  885.770091] sisusbvga: Unknown symbol usb_free_urb (err -22)
[14:00] <cmcintosh> [  885.770120] sisusbvga: disagrees about version of symbol usb_submit_urb
[14:01] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  so your home dir has some encrpted files on it that should not be and your bt program is having issues with it
[14:01] <dorin> hello, i had a problem with nvidia driver (max resolution 640x480)
[14:02] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: erm... nope :D
[14:02] <rileyp> dorin how did you go?
[14:02] <dorin> rileyp! i used the script from here
[14:02] <dorin> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=70068
[14:02] <rileyp> dorin try xrandr shoould giv eyou a list of display modes
[14:03] <dsnyders> !sha1sum
[14:03] <dorin> my screen now is 1360x768 as i setted it but i can see only 640x480,
[14:04] <rileyp> dorin is it a pc screen or a tv?
[14:04] <dorin> it looksl ike zoomed - i have to move in the screen by puting the mouse on the egde of screen
[14:04] <dorin> tv
[14:04] <cmcintosh> is there a way to find out where the config file is for x11
[14:04] <rileyp> in tv setting you may need to set it to auto adjust screen res
[14:05] <cmcintosh> i know of the one in /etc/X11
[14:05] <cmcintosh> but is there one that can be set specfic for a user?
[14:05] <rileyp> or turn tv on /off and see what happens
[14:05] <bazhang> cmcintosh, its not there anymore, though you can create one and it will be followed
[14:05] <dorin> auto adjust goes on 640x480 and does not allow me to change...
[14:05] <rileyp> dorin  tv setting you may need to set it to auto adjust screen res
[14:05] <cmcintosh> bazhang, where is it stored now?
[14:06] <rileyp> cmcintosh:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:07] <dorin> ripeyp! how can i auto adjust ?
[14:07] <rileyp> dorin are you using vga ?
[14:07] <dorin> rileyp! yes
[14:07] <das3q2> Linux sucksguys
[14:07] <IHateHavingToReg> I am trying to enable mod_perl on my Apache2 server with Ubuntu. When I did a simple "Hello, world!"; perl script, it throws back a 500 Internal Server Error. The logs state "[Sat Mar 24 07:02:20 2012] [error] [client 98.92.15.181] failed to resolve handler `Apache::Registry': Can't locate Apache/Registry.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1
[14:07] <IHateHavingToReg> /usr$" however I am using ModPerl::Registry and not Apache::Registry in the sites-available/default file. I've restarted the server and everything so I'm not sure why it thinks it should be using Apache::Registry. Any suggestions?
[14:08] <rileyp> das3q2:  no you wan to suck us now go away
[14:08] <cmcintosh> thanks
[14:08] <das3q2> but Linux sucks, end of story
[14:08] <pangolin> !guidelines > rileyp
[14:08] <cmcintosh> just trying to figure out how to get x11 to start using this usbvga dongle so i can have a triple head
[14:09] <bazhang> das3q2, wrong channel
[14:09] <das3q2> it still does
[14:09] <cmcintosh> is there a way to restart x without restarting ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:09] <cmcintosh> tried ctrl+alt backspace
[14:09] <rileyp> dorin:  so you have a good xorg.conf made by the nvidia.sh script?
[14:10] <dorin> rileyp: yes
[14:10] <bastidrazor> cmcintosh: just log out then back in.
[14:10] <cmcintosh> k
[14:10] <rileyp> and nvidia installed and operating and a screen res set of 1360x768
[14:10] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: you might be more successful in #httpd
[14:11] <dorin> rileyp, its default was 640x??? and i put panning this resolution
[14:11] <dorin> :/
[14:11] <IHateHavingToReg> remoteCTRL: thanks
[14:11] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: there is ieven a #perl
[14:11] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: np!
[14:11] <IHateHavingToReg> oh i'm banned because some fat fuck was talking shit to me like 4 months ago, lol
[14:11] <IHateHavingToReg> oh well
[14:12] <rileyp> dorin when you type xrandr in a terminal which res has teh * beside it
[14:12] <FloodBot1> IHateHavingToReg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <dorin> from nvidia xserver
[14:12] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: please mind you language
[14:12] <pangolin> !language | IHateHavingToReg
[14:12] <IHateHavingToReg> remoteCTRL: oh, i don't mind my language. Thanks for the concern tho
[14:12] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I have an ISO file and a sha1 value.  How do I make a sha1 check file?
[14:12] <bazhang> IHateHavingToReg, pardon?
[14:12] <rileyp> dorin mine is like this 1920x1080      60.0     24.0     50.0*
[14:12] <IHateHavingToReg> bazhang: huh?
[14:12] <dorin> minimum 320 x 240, current 1280 x 960, maximum 1280 x 960
[14:12] <dorin> default connected 1280x960+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[14:13] <pangolin> IHateHavingToReg, Don't swear in here or you will be banned.
[14:13] <bazhang> IHateHavingToReg, no cursing here
[14:13] <rileyp> meaning its running 1920x1080 at 50 hz
[14:13] <cmcintosh> k
[14:13] <cmcintosh> hmm
[14:13] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks for your concern, but like i said, i don't mind my language
[14:13] <cmcintosh> so ubuntu sees the usbvga device
[14:13] <cmcintosh> but cant seem to get xwindows to use it
[14:13] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: youre banned in #httpd, is that for a reason?
[14:13] <dorin> (i changed it to 1280 )
[14:13] <IHateHavingToReg> uhhhh
[14:13] <IHateHavingToReg> wow
[14:13] <cmcintosh> i also have a nvidia primary display
[14:13] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: youre banned in #httpd, is that for a reason?
[14:14] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, lets stay on topic please
[14:14] <pangolin> remoteCTRL, it doesn't concern #ubuntu
[14:14] <IHateHavingToReg> remoteCTRL: yes, i just explained the reason to you
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: to you also want to shut the #ubuntu door behind you? if not so take the admins for serious pls
[14:14] <piasta> Hello, is it gtk3 faster than gtk2? It appears like my applications are spawning faster in 11.10 compared to 10.04
[14:14] <rileyp> dorin type xrandr and post it up please the line with the *
[14:14] <IHateHavingToReg> remoteCTRL: english pls? can you translate that to english?
[14:14] <IHateHavingToReg> Although I will point out that this matter has already been settled; you are dragging it out
[14:15] <dorin> rileyp! 1280x960       50.0*
[14:15] <cmcintosh> IHateHavingToReg, stop being disruptive
[14:15] <remoteCTRL> IHateHavingToReg: ok , here we go: if the admins ask you to stop sweariing do so otherwise you wont be asking questins in here anymore either
[14:16] <rileyp> so it only support 12080x960 at 50 hz?
[14:16] <piasta> rileyp, that's some widescreen
[14:16] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log  see what results on your usb display there
[14:17] <rileyp> piasta 3m x 1.7 high  on my wall
[14:17] <dorin> rileyp, no... i saw all the resolutions that monitor supports from the instruction book and i tryed some of them... but it was the same
[14:17] <rileyp> piasta:  laying on couch
[14:17] <rileyp> dorin you can change res using xrandr as well
[14:17] <cmcintosh> [    29.651] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for sisusb
[14:17] <dorin> the whole screen resolution was setting up only, but i can see only a part of it...
[14:17] <rileyp> its a good way to test
[14:18] <cmcintosh> [    31.229] (II) UnloadModule: "sisusb"
[14:18] <cmcintosh> [    31.229] (II) Unloading sisusb
[14:19] <rileyp> dorin: my sharp tv remote has a button under the flip lid dot for dot
[14:19] <dorin> no no, rileyp! i think that the current res is ok... the problem is that i see only a part of screen (like zoomed screen)
[14:19] <cmcintosh> i also have a nvidia geforce video card on the laptop, that is using the nvidia-settings app to configure it, and using TwinView for my laptop / 1 external display
[14:19] <DexterF> hi
[14:19] <cmcintosh> not sure if that is a part of it
[14:19] <piasta> rileyp, oh I see typo
[14:19] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: he has a high relolution in a low resolution pane
[14:19] <remoteCTRL> dorin: is that nvidia?
[14:20] <cmcintosh> http://pastebin.com/3Ts3BehK
[14:20] <DexterF> I need a gameport for a game, I have a soundcard with GP around but I already have a better soundcard, but without GP. now - how can I make ubuntu not use the old soundcard *at all*but its gameport?
[14:20] <cmcintosh> do i need to add the usbvga to use twinview as well?
[14:21] <dorin> remotectrl! yes nvidia FX 5700
[14:21] <rileyp> remoteCTRL: yeah I get that  and he needs to change a setting in his tv I think so it detects the correct res
[14:21] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: (ww) is just a warning any (EE) ?
[14:21] <remoteCTRL> you got nvidia xserver sttings open?
[14:21] <cmcintosh> posted whole log here
[14:21] <remoteCTRL> dorin?
[14:21] <cmcintosh> http://pastebin.com/3Ts3BehK
[14:21] <cmcintosh> just noticed something though
[14:21] <dorin> remotectrl! yes?
[14:22] <cmcintosh> on my system it is called sisusbvga and the driver it looked for is just sisusb
[14:22] <remoteCTRL> then navigate to x disoplay configuration
[14:22] <remoteCTRL> dorin: click "advanced" there
[14:22] <dorin> where is disoplay conf?
[14:23] <cmcintosh> back again
[14:23] <remoteCTRL> dorin you should now see a "Panning" option, if you have something like 640*480 in there correct it to the proper values
[14:23] <cmcintosh> not workin so far
[14:23] <remoteCTRL> dorin: x display conf
[14:23] <dorin> wow, ok remotectrl! i optimized from there to 1280x..
[14:23] <remoteCTRL> dorin: working for you now?
[14:24] <dorin> remotecrtl before that i could use only 640x4?? , after that i have 1280x7??
[14:25] <remoteCTRL> dorin: i dont understand the question?
[14:25] <remoteCTRL> does it work now?
[14:25] <dorin> remotectrl!but i see only a part of the screen, ( my screen looksl ike zoomed in
[14:25] <rileyp> dorin it maybe in nv setting under dfp0-tv brand name gpu scaling method centred or stretched and force full gpu scaling
[14:25] <rileyp> what is your native res on that page
[14:25] <remoteCTRL> dorin: i do understand that, did you understand what i wrote how to fix it?
[14:26] <dorin> remotectrl i understood but i have done this already
[14:26] <remoteCTRL> dorin: oh i did not know that, sorry...
[14:26] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: did you modify your x config file?  if so can we see that also pastebinit ?
[14:27] <rileyp> dorin force full gpu scaling?
[14:27] <dorin> remotectrl! no, how?
[14:28] <weox> hello , i install ati driver , but i have issue , the taskbar , menu bar (in gnome) , everything is a ugly ... and not currect
[14:28] <remoteCTRL> dorin: huh?
[14:28] <dorin> rileyp, i can see only 640x480, and if i want for example to close the window i have to put my mouse on the upper edge to move it
[14:28] <rileyp> dorin: it maybe in nv x server settings under dfp0-tv brand name gpu scaling method centred or stretched and force full gpu scaling.
[14:28] <dorin> remotectrl, how to force it?
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> weox: there is a bug report for that, if i only could find it...
[14:29] <piasta> Hello, is it gtk3 faster than gtk2? It appears like my applications are spawning faster in 11.10 compared to 10.04
[14:29] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: this is all I found as a reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB2VGA  so I assume you have a customized xorg.conf something like this?
[14:29] <rileyp> dorin what res is your tv running? and what type of tv is it
[14:29] <piasta> what is faster in 11.10?
[14:29] <remoteCTRL> dorin: either you insert the values in nvidia xserver sttings or you use xrandr
[14:29] <rileyp> dorin and model
[14:30] <injureddeer> http://paste.debian.net/160838/ - 18 line will work?
[14:30] <rileyp> piasta nothing 10.04 best o/s in years imho
[14:30] <RoboCydeAnon> im trying to boot from the flash, but i do not know how. Instructions say to re-boot afetr I have downloaded the programs. I followed the instructions for download to a T. What do I do next?
[14:30] <cmcintosh> yea thats what im trying
[14:31] <efe443> Can I ask a question?
[14:31] <dorin> rileyp! its a f&u fdh19882w
[14:31] <RoboCydeAnon> im on a windows 7 pc.
[14:31] <remoteCTRL> !ask efe443
[14:31] <efe443> Why is Ubuntu so slow?
[14:31] <RoboCydeAnon> Can any one explain this to me?
[14:31] <remoteCTRL> !ask | efe443
[14:32] <sacarlson> RoboCydeAnon: what resource do you have to install the iso file to your usb flash?  windows system?   linux?  what link are you using as a reference?
[14:32] <efe443> It lags when I move windoes
[14:32] <efe443> windows*
[14:32] <rileyp> dorin sorry f and U ??? they dont sell them in australia brand name?
[14:32] <remoteCTRL> efe443: in comparison to what?
[14:32] <efe443> To MS Windows
[14:32] <cmcintosh> ugh
[14:32] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I have an ISO file and a sha1 value.  I tried placing the sha1 value into a file, but I got an error.  I tried using the sha1sum to create the file, subtituting the sha1 value I have, and then doing a sha1sum --check, but I still get the error: no properly formatted SHA1 checksum lines found.  How do I do a sha1sum check?
[14:32] <remoteCTRL> efe443: seriously doubt that...
[14:32] <cmcintosh> for all the security of ubuntu what i would not give for some more of the ease of window
[14:32] <RoboCydeAnon> windows 7.
[14:33] <remoteCTRL> efe443: have you installed your graphics driver yet?
[14:33] <rileyp> dorin greek?
[14:33] <dorin> rileyp! yes!
[14:33] <krishna_> Hi. I have ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop. Starting few hours back, every time I login my admin account with the right password, it just comes back to the same screen after a blink of black screen with commands running. This problem came out of nowhere. Did no install. No update. No software removal.
[14:33] <efe443> Yeah. It lags with the Open source driver. Even with the Closed one
[14:33] <RoboCydeAnon> I want to boot from the flash until I am ready and comfortable to partition it in...
[14:34] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: meaning that your x-server is crashing, have a look into /var/log/xorg.log.0 and look out for the error
[14:34] <remoteCTRL> efe443: what hardware?
[14:34] <efe443> Amd 5750 GFX card
[14:34] <rileyp> dorin so what res does teh tv say its doing ? ie press teh vga button and it should come up on screen ?
[14:34] <efe443> Phenom X II
[14:35] <remoteCTRL> RoboCydeAnon: i would liek to help you but i am having difficulties comprehending your problem?
[14:35] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Now I'm using my fedora 16 which I installed after this crash happened. Is it possible to do that from here?
[14:35] <cmcintosh> i think my error has to do with this
[14:35] <cmcintosh> [  869.860991] sisusbvga: disagrees about version of symbol usb_alloc_urb
[14:35] <cmcintosh> [  869.861000] sisusbvga: Unknown symbol usb_alloc_urb (err -22)
[14:35] <cmcintosh> [  869.861009] sisusbvga: disagrees about version of symbol usb_free_urb
[14:35] <cmcintosh> [  869.861014] sisusbvga: Unknown symbol usb_free_urb (err -22)
[14:35] <FloodBot1> cmcintosh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:35] <cmcintosh> [  869.861081] sisusbvga: disagrees about version of symbol usb_submit_urb
[14:35] <sacarlson> dsnyders: sha1sum will just return a finger print number that you should see matches the number of the distribution docs
[14:35] <dorin> rileyp! i didnt understood the last one
[14:35] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: if you installed it side by side and not over the ubntu installatin you can sure do that
[14:36] <dsnyders> sacarlson, You mean I have to manually check one long hex string against another?
[14:36] <remoteCTRL> efe443: in that case there is something wrong with your installation, with that hardware nothing is supposed to lag
[14:36] <rileyp> orin so what resolution  does the tv say its doing ? ie press teh vga button and it should come up on screen ?
[14:36] <sacarlson> dsnyders: you can just with your eyes see the first 4 leters match that would be good enuf
[14:36] <RoboCydeAnon> ok, I went to umbuntu site, was given an option to download and boot from a flash. I downloaded the program pendriver, as recommended, followed all of the instructions on the site for a windows pc. Was told to re-boot and ubuntu would show as an option to launch, that doesnt happen....
[14:37] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Fedora 16 is in another partition..  Where shall I look for that file in root drive of Ubuntu 10.10?
[14:37] <dsnyders> sacarlson, What is the --check option for, then?
[14:37] <dorin> rileyp! vga button?
[14:37] <rileyp> dorin so what resolution  does the tv say its doing ?     Press the av button and it should come up on screen ?
[14:37] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Sorry, you mentioned it already. Going to find it now.
[14:37] <remoteCTRL> RoboCydeAnon: you need to enable boot from usb or change your boot device priority in your system's bios
[14:37] <sacarlson> dsnyders: I'm not sure do a man sha1sum to see details
[14:38] <RoboCydeAnon> How?
[14:38] <dorin> rileyp! its 640x480
[14:38] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: sure, you will most probably see a second harddrive in your file manager, just navigate to that one and look for /var/log/xorg.log.0
[14:38] <rileyp> dorin perhaps that is teh max res the tv can do? but it seems unlikely
[14:38] <dsnyders> sacarlson, the man file just says that it verifies the file against a checksum in the file.  It doesn't say how to create the file.
[14:39] <RoboCydeAnon> I followed these instructions http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download
[14:39] <sacarlson> RoboCydeAnon: the link you used would be of value,  maybe your bios needs to be setup to boot from usb as first choice
[14:39] <istevenmon> hi guys i need help getting grub to work on my system, when installing i think i skiped the boot configuration and now i get the grub command interface and cant start any of my systems :( i booted from a live cd and checked the /dev/sda4 where my linux was installed and the /boot/grub./grub.cfg has all the configuration
[14:39] <remoteCTRL> RoboCydeAnon: usually the key to enter the bios during boottime is either F2 or Del, sometimes it is also F10
[14:39] <remoteCTRL> or even ESC
[14:39] <cmcintosh> sacarlson,
[14:39] <RoboCydeAnon> and thats at start up correct?
[14:39] <dorin> rileyp, i dont htink so, the instr.book has lots
[14:39] <RoboCydeAnon> cause if thats all i am missing, i feel silly...
[14:39] <cmcintosh> sacarlson, does those errors look understandable to you?
[14:40] <dorin> the last one is 1920x1200
[14:40] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/897875/  This has the contents of that file. Could you please take a look?
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> RoboCydeAnon, If you're new to ubuntu, I'm not sure that you want Server; perhaps desktop would be better.
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> exactly, as soon as you see anthing at all on your screen after turning your computer on, you alternately hit the F2 and the del keys, then you navigat to "boot" and set the boot priority there
[14:40] <rileyp> dorin pastebin the edid data of the tv please or your etc/x11/xorg.conf please
[14:40] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: I'm not sure an uknown symbol would be catistrofic
[14:40] <remoteCTRL> RoboCydeAnon: alternately many mainboards support pressing F8 during bootime in order to have a menu for what disk to boot from
[14:41] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: sure, gimme a sec
[14:41] <Dulak> dsnyders: it's simply the sha sum followed by a space, and the full name of the file,  each file has it's own line.  It's the output of sha1sum redirected to a file, to make it easier to verify multiple files at once quickly.  It's actually faster for a single file to manually verify the sums match.
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> RoboCydeAnon, Server has no GUI, unless you install it afterward.
[14:41] <RoboCydeAnon> ok, i will play with it. Thank you all. If i have issues, I will ask again. Thank you!
[14:41] <jimi_c> does the standard install DVD support network installs? I'm trying to pxe a system with the auto url=http:// syntax, but when the system loads it looks like a standard install
[14:41] <dorin> rileyp! http://pastebin.com/DCeFakHJ
[14:42] <cmcintosh> k
[14:42] <jimi_c> the one i'm using is 10.10, which is a little out of date, but i figured it should work since 10.4 is LTS
[14:42] <cmcintosh> no clue how to fix that
[14:42] <jimi_c> i don't see any requests on the web server to get the url i'm passing in
[14:43] <jimi_c> but when i switch to an alternate console and cat /proc/cmdline I see the proper options are set
[14:43] <dsnyders> Dulak, sacarlson,  I see my mistake.  I was doing sha1sum isofile --check sha1sumfile.  All I needed to do is sha1sum --check sha1sumfile.
[14:43] <cmcintosh> when i try insmod i get this insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/3.0.0-13-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/sisusbvga/sisusbvga.ko': -1 Invalid parameters
[14:43] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: very nasty, i cannot find any clue whatsoever in there...
[14:44] <for> forhott
[14:44] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: what does ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf return?
[14:45] <Whitebird> Got a little git problem
[14:45] <Whitebird> When i commit to master using tortoisegit, get the following error: http://i.imgur.com/l8Qze.png
[14:45] <sacarlson> dsnyders: seems you still need the isofile in there someplace
[14:45] <cmcintosh> this is lame
[14:45] <sacarlson> dsnyders: sha1sum isofile ;   number pops out
[14:46] <cmcintosh> something like this usbvga should work out of the box, as it does on windows/mac.  the driver is in the system and updated to the latest but give unclear errors on how to get it working
[14:46] <rileyp> dorin could you please pastebin the output of xrandr all of it please
[14:46] <dsnyders> sacarlson, the lines in sha1sumfile are of the format:  hashvalue filename<br>
[14:46] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: somehow I missed seeing your xorg.conf file in pastebin ?
[14:46] <rileyp> your xorg.conf looks good
[14:47] <cmcintosh> http://pastebin.com/vYqfRSmg
[14:47] <dorin> rileyp! http://pastebin.com/CR34DAqa
[14:47] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: From my Dolphin file manager in Fedora 16, I tried to see for that file under /etc/X11 in my root of ubuntu 10.10.  But Can't find that file.  But there is one file called "xorg.conf.failsafe" ..   I tried to start failsafe mode an hour before from recovery menu on boot screen.
[14:47] <sacarlson> dsnyders: cool that sounds like it works then
[14:47] <cmcintosh> sacarlson, really appreciate the help
[14:47] <dsnyders> Dulak, sacarlson, works now.  Download was good.  Thanks.
[14:47] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Or you meant that I should run that command in Fedora 16 Konsole?!
[14:50] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Shall I restart into ubuntu 10.10
[14:50] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: ok I found the xorg.conf  I wish you would have labled it for me to find
[14:50] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Shall I restart into ubuntu 10.10's recovery mode  Netroot and try that command again?
[14:51] <cmcintosh> its labeled sisusbvga
[14:51] <cmcintosh> at the bottom
[14:51] <cmcintosh> sorry
[14:51] <rileyp> dorin in your xorg.conf under section screen it says  Modes      "1920x1080_60"
[14:51] <dorin> rileyp! in nvidia x server says "resolution=640x480" panning 1280x960... id allows me to change the resolution only to 320x
[14:52] <caB00T> Hello everyone, new day new things to learn! :p
[14:52] <remoteCTRL> krishna wait
[14:52] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: are u still there?
[14:53] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Yes, I am,
[14:53] <dorin> rileyp i putted panning on 640x480. im gonna restart
[14:53] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: shouldnt that read "1920x1080@60" instead of "1920x1080_60"?
[14:54] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: i only wanted to know if you still had the file, often it is causing problems, but apparently it is not there anymore in your case
[14:54] <DexterF> dorin: prob with nvidia? refresh rates, modi?
[14:54] <n4dsp> I have a radio connected to /dev/ttyUSB0 and it's working well. But when I connect my Nikon camera to a usb port next to the one in use the camera will export the pics to the computer but the radio usb function stops. It is conflicting. So how can I find if they are both using the same port number?
[14:54] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: I found something different than the reference at this line  Option         "Xinerama" "0"
[14:55] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: does that xinerama mode work on your other screen?
[14:55] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Okay... Now, could you tell me what I should do next?
[14:55] <cmcintosh> yes
[14:55] <cmcintosh> i think thats how it is doing the external and laptop monitor
[14:56] <caB00T> How do I put gnome onto default with auto login? I have it installed.
[14:56] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: might try remove or comment the line just for grins on both this and the original two screens
[14:56] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  he has 2 "screen" sections one which is irreleveant that beingthe 1920x180 one
[14:56] <rileyp> sorry 1920x1080
[14:56] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: still trying to figure out, gimme another oment please
[14:57] <rileyp> and no the _ are used to define differing frequencies at same res
[14:57] <cmcintosh> ok
[14:57] <cmcintosh> how about the TwinView thing?
[14:57] <sacarlson> cmcintosh: maybe even try just one screen with the siusb just to see if the card works at all
[14:57] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: i meant there is a_ there there should be a @ i havent looked at the pastebin, just from what you wrote in here...
[14:57] <cmcintosh> it is only one screen on it
[14:57] <caB00T> I have Ubuntu 11.10, and have installed gnome. How do I set it to default on login? I have auto log in on.
[14:57] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: Just wanted to tell you this info :  I tried login my accound in the command line in "netroot" option of recovery mode at bootscreen and I tried entering the only x related command I know :  startx and it didn't do anything except showing a text output? Is it supposed to that or start the gui?
[14:57] <cmcintosh> thats the issue is the screen is not coming up on that device
[14:57] <cmcintosh> the other two is the built in nvidia card
[14:58] <cmcintosh> let me relog and try that
[14:58] <zorbama> Hello
[14:58] <dorin> rileyp! now i use 640x480 only
[14:58] <dorin> i cant see whole windows
[14:58] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: i dunno what a "netroot" option is?
[14:59] <zorbama> I need help with input method switching
[14:59] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: and yes starx is supposed to start your gui
[14:59] <scott_z> is the an equivilent to the windows 'start/all programs' so that I can find programs that I have installed and run them?
[14:59] <zorbama> Anybody knows something about that?
[14:59] <rileyp> dorin have you seen teh tv do resolution > 640x480 using a dvd or bluray
[14:59] <caB00T> I have Ubuntu 11.10, and have installed gnome. How do I set it to default on login? I have auto log in on.
[14:59] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: I think netroot option in recovery mode gives a root terminal with internet connection....
[14:59] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: maybe have a try with "sudo xinit gdm"
[15:00] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: or lightdm, depending on what youre using...
[15:00] <dorin> rileyp! in windows with 12x7?? res it works..
[15:00] <dorin> *1200
[15:00] <remoteCTRL> krishna_: i see
[15:00] <boairc> anybody has 3 monitors with 3d acceleration enabled and all monitors working as a single screen?
[15:00] <zorbama> caB00T: You should log out, click on the gear icon on the right of the login box, pick GNOME and log in. It should then log you in to GNOME every time
[15:01] <rileyp> dorin your xorg.conf is not correct as it has in 1920x1080
[15:01] <g105b> How do I install Sun's Java SDK? At the moment I have the open jdk installed - am I likely to get conflicts?
[15:01] <caB00T> Tried zorbama but it doesn't work, even edited some .conf file yest to find it is same old today. Found something online, hopefully it'll do the trick.
[15:02] <rileyp> dorin and 2 screen sections its normal to have 1 screen section if you use 1 screen
[15:02] <zorbama> caB00T: I see. Good luck
[15:02] <gvo> g105b: what version of ubuntu?
[15:02] <dorin> rileyp! can u help me correct it... im not good using terminal
[15:02] <krishna_> remoteCTRL: ubuntu 10.10 has gdm only?  Isn't this lightdm in newer ubuntu versions?  Now, I am going to restart into ubuntu 10.10 recovery mode and run that command..
[15:02] <dorin> i know only how to open it with nano
[15:03] <zorbama> I have a problem with switching input methods: the windows use the currently selected layout, ignoring the setting I picked for it (use default layout for each new window), and the indicator shows the wrong languages most of the time. What can I do?
[15:03] <g105b> gvo: I'm in 11.10
[15:04] <scott_z> is the an equivilent to the windows 'start/all programs' so that I can find programs that I have installed and run them?
[15:04] <gvo> g105b: I don't think the ubuntu repositories have Oracle's java any longer.  You'll have to go to the Oracle site and download.
[15:04] <g105b> gvo: will I have to purge the open jdk?
[15:05] <gvo> g105b: Put it in /usr/local or somewhere other than /usr/bin and you won't have a conflict.
[15:05] <remoteCTRL> g105b: that is a fact, oracle changed the license in a way that oems and alike cannot ship it anymore...
[15:05] <dorin> rileyp! i run in terminal sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf and it opens me a clear file...
[15:05] <gvo> g105b: no but you will have to adjust your path to use it.
[15:05] <thomas001> hi, i try to boot ubuntu 11.10 from a usb stick, but the boot hangs right after (or within) kernel bootup...i see a kernel backtrace which may be related to nouveau, but not as very last message...what's wrong here?
[15:05] <caB00T> Solved, if anyone needs, to put gnome as default auto log in (11.10) need to do: "sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-shell"
[15:06] <spupuser1> you need some hacks to run ubuntu on an ufd smoothly
[15:06] <spupuser1> may the force be with you
[15:07] <rcmaehl> Okay, I have Windows 7 64-bit, is it possible to run my linux distro that is installed on my HDD in VirtualBox as if I had booted to it?
[15:07] <remoteCTRL> dorin: then you misspelled it
[15:07] <rileyp> dorin replace with this http://pastebin.com/BXGZrdLm
[15:07] <caB00T> Don't think so rcmaehl.
[15:07] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, I am now in my Ubuntu 10.10's gui using that command..  Partial success .. Since I have my AWN working, Conky working. But no icons on Desktop. No title bar on windows.
[15:07] <gvo> remoteCTRL: He might not have an xorg.conf
[15:07] <rcmaehl> :| Well atleast I'm able to access my Linux Partitions on Windows
[15:08] <remoteCTRL> gvo: considering the history of his problem, yes he does...:)
[15:08] <gvo> remoteCTRL: OK
[15:08] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: well that is already something
[15:08] <zorbama> I have a problem with switching input methods: the windows use the currently selected layout, ignoring the setting I picked for it (use default layout for each new window), and the indicator shows the wrong languages most of the time. What can I do?
[15:08] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: what does the command ls -l /home/yourhomedir/.ICEAuthority return?
[15:08] <drounse> if i disable dhcp on a wireless router and plug it into another router with dhcp enabled will it extend the signal?
[15:08] <n4dsp>  I have a radio connected to /dev/ttyUSB0 and it's working well. But when I connect my Nikon camera to a usb port next to the one in use the camera will export the pics to the computer but the radio usb function stops. It is conflicting. So how can I find if they are both using the same port number?
[15:09] <remoteCTRL> krishna or better ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[15:09] <caB00T> What is the best IRC client for Linux?
[15:09] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, ls -l /home/krishna/.ICEAuthority says ls: cannot access /home/krishna/.ICEAuthority: No such file or directory
[15:09] <gvo> n4dsp: I suspect your radio software is not working correctly.
[15:10] <dorin> rileyp! when i save it it says that "error-there not exists this file"
[15:10] <rileyp> dorin you can restart gdm with alt +printscreen+k
[15:10] <gvo> n4dsp: what do you mean by "port number"?
[15:10] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: that explains why you do not see any of the icvons etc
[15:10] <n4dsp> dont know
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> caB00T, What are you using now?
[15:10] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: does not explain why it isnt being created, which it should be if it isnt there...
[15:11] <rileyp> dorin you need to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:11] <caB00T> I am having Ubuntu in Virtual Box while learning it, now mIRC from Windows.
[15:11] <n4dsp> if my radio is using /dev/ttyUSB0 then could the camera when plugged in be using the same one and has taken that USB0 over?
[15:11] <n4dsp> how do I find what /dev my camera is using?
[15:11] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, I didn't delete it.. I never installed or removed any software recently. This problem just came out of nowhere.
[15:11] <dorin> rileyp! i opened it with vi... its ok
[15:11] <Sidewinder1> caB00T, I use X-Chat.
[15:11] <rileyp> if there is nothing there then that is your problem
[15:11] <gvo> n4dsp: dmesg | tail -21
[15:11] <Sidewinder1> !best
[15:12] <caB00T> Ok, thanks! :)
[15:12] <Sidewinder1> NP
[15:12] <n4dsp> will check. thanks
[15:12] <dorin> i have to change the "modes-1980x1080?
[15:12] <jamesbeebop> Can someone point me to a system test / evaluator that will tell me if I can use compiz?  I have it enabled, but, for instance, Expo doesn't work.  At least, doesn't seem to do anything.
[15:12] <drounse> !BestBot
[15:12] <gvo> n4dsp: after you plug it in of course.
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: well somehow your .ICEauthority file went missing and it should be created on login if not there. cannot tell you why it doesnt do it...
[15:12] <scott_z> is the an equivilent to the windows 'start/all programs' so that I can find programs that I have installed and run them?
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> maybe try and login normally now?
[15:12] <rileyp> dorin i gave you a link to a pastebin which i fixed
[15:12] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Ok, I will. Wait 2 minutes please!
[15:13] <gvo> n4dsp: R u john?
[15:13] <n4dsp> yes
[15:13] <spupuser1> john rambo or john maclean?
[15:13] <gvo> :)  Figured that was your call.  Tack a k4 in front of my nick.
[15:14] <rileyp> dorin: i have to change the "modes-1980x1080? no that is wrong it needs to be 1280x920_50
[15:15] <rileyp> dorin you need to do some reading iv had enough its bedtime for me sorry we didnt sort it
[15:15] <hayer> Python n00b here - can anyone help me out with this error? http://pastebin.com/qY9UUrK4
[15:15] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: have a nice nap!
[15:16] <caB00T_> So it works. :p
[15:16] <rileyp> remoteCTRL:  wil do its 2 am in the morning here
[15:16] <rileyp> night
[15:16] <remoteCTRL> rileyp: night!
[15:17] <spupuser1> there is a band called 2pm
[15:17] <remoteCTRL> hayer: i suggest you take your concern here: #python
[15:17] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Works!  I mean, I logged in after a restart "the usual way" .. But it doesn't have icons on desktop and title bar. I ran "compiz --replace" in terminal and got my compiz visual effects back. But no icons eventhough the files are there in my
[15:17] <Krishna_> home
[15:18] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, "compiz --replace" enabled the title bar too. But no icons on desktop!  :(
[15:18] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: you will probably still not have the .ICEAuthority file, is your homedir actually read and writable by your user?
[15:19] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, my account is the only admin account in the ubuntu 10.10.  So it should be read/writable, correct?
[15:19] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: just to be sure, do the following sudo chown -R krishna:krishna /home/krishna
[15:19] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: not if for some reason you have for example some messup with the userIDs in /etc/passwd...
[15:20] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: after hte chown command login again
[15:20] <zorbama> I have a problem with switching input methods: the windows use the currently selected layout, ignoring the setting I picked for it (use default layout for each new window), and the indicator shows the wrong languages most of the time. What can I do?
[15:21] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, is that command supposed to take longtime?!
[15:21] <jmoreira81> I need to change directories permission only not affecting files for my public/ directory. anyone?
[15:22] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: depends on how many files you ogt in that directory, normally not longer than a few seconds? (or even fragments of a second)
[15:23] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, I have about 12 gb in /home/krishna.
[15:23] <spupuser1> 12gb of porn?
[15:23] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: then it might take a few seconds...
[15:24] <drounse> spupuser1 thats nothing i have a tb lol jk
[15:24] <Krishna_> spupuser1, No.. ;-)
[15:24] <rizal> hay...
[15:24] <spupuser1> lol
[15:24] <guest-InGqrM>  i am looking for username  for os01    i am runnig as gust
[15:24] <Oer> spupuser1, please keep your funny comments to yourself. you are not helpfull.
[15:24] <rizal> some ne helping me!!!
[15:25] <drounse> rizal whats your problem
[15:25] <remoteCTRL> !ask >> rizal
[15:25] <remoteCTRL>  !ask > rizal
[15:25] <drounse> !ask | rizal
[15:25] <rizal> i dont play my wifi
[15:25] <guest-InGqrM> i ma looking for a  user name for   os01  can you help me
[15:26] <drounse> rizal can you clearify what you mean?
[15:26] <Oer> guest-InGqrM, how could we know a username?
[15:26] <drounse> clarify*
[15:26] <user> Hello, I have a bit of an issue
[15:26] <drounse> !ask |user
[15:26] <scott_z> I have created a link on my desktop to run a program. when i click on it, it askes me if i want to run it. It will run but how do I bypass that dialog box and have the program run just by clicking?
[15:27] <dorin> rileyp! nothing happens... i have to disable my driver
[15:27] <drounse> scott_z is it asking to run as root?
[15:27] <remoteCTRL> scott_z: give it an executable flag with chmod +x nameofthething
[15:27] <rizal> i have problem in my wifi
[15:28] <rizal> just dont support in my linux
[15:28] <user> I have ubuntu 8.04 on an acer aspire laptop and I don't know how to install the correct wireless drivers
[15:28] <drounse> remoteCTRL if i use "sudo chmod +x whatever"
[15:28] <dorin> it said me that my driver not support the resolution
[15:28] <remoteCTRL> scott_z: oh, a link, please consider my answer void...
[15:28] <dorin> so it runned 640 :/
[15:28] <drounse> remoteCTRL will it make me need to use sudo?
[15:28] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, The command has ended with a few errors..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/897933/  Is that fine? Shall I try restarting to login my admin account?
[15:29] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Could you please take a look into that paste?
[15:29] <scott_z> drounse: no, it says 'programname' is an executable text file. and my options are 'run in terminal' , 'display','cancel', and 'run'. I click on run and it is fine but i want to not have to click on anything, I want it to just run.
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> drounse: Krishna_ sure, sec
[15:30] <drounse> scott_z hmmm im not sure then :/
[15:30] <guest-InGqrM> oke how do i login  as admin is 0s 01 by  anno
[15:30] <scott_z> anyone else?
[15:30] <caB00T> Anyone can help me with a VritualBox thing maybe? :\
[15:30] <user> my network controller is Atheros Communications Inc. (Foxconn International, Inc.)
[15:30] <remoteCTRL> drounse depends on the umask and for whom you make it executable, has nothing to with wether u use sudo or not...
[15:31] <pangolin> caB00T, #virtualbox can
[15:31] <user> that's all the info I have.
[15:31] <caB00T> Ah, sweet, tnx.
[15:31] <drounse> remoteCTRL oh ok thank you
[15:31] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: the first line of your paste is prefectly ok, the I/O errors do net look to good...
[15:32] <Star_Light> http://ideone.com/hDTR5
[15:32] <Star_Light> :/
[15:32] <Star_Light> I thought that the output would be -> Hello
[15:32] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: this CAN be an indicator that your harddisk is failing...
[15:32] <Star_Light> the body of loop is only the if right?
[15:32] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: or simply that something is not quite as it should be in your operating system, gimme another sec
[15:33] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, how do I check the health of my harddisk?  :(
[15:33] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Okay.
[15:34] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: smartctl does that on the commandline
[15:34] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: and in your system settings there should be a disk tool i believe its name was...?
[15:35] <user> Is there a channel for 8.04 support or is this the only one?
[15:35] <remoteCTRL> user only one
[15:35] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Disk tool?   I have one partition editor called "gparted".
[15:36] <user> Is there somewhere else I can go then? I've already looked at the forums and nothing on there worked for me.
[15:36] <bhavesh> I just installed GNOME 3 extension to change activities button icon, I downloaded it from http://www.fpmurphy.com/gnome-shell-extensions/ now that button works only when I click on it but not when I hover my mouse. How can I solve this?
[15:36] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: nope, not what i meant
[15:36] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: i am unsure whether that was already there in 10.10...
[15:36] <angs> what is the use of " . " before / = "./" ?
[15:37] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL,  Menu > Admin > Disk Utility
[15:37] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, this one?
[15:37] <kubav> hi. how to disable annoying backup reminder?
[15:37] <angs> is it for executing a file?
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: precisely!
[15:38] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, And that "disk utility" says "Disk is Healthy"
[15:38] <bhavesh> I tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/86889/how-to-disable-mouse-hover-at-top-left-corner-on-activities-action and found out those lines are already uncommented. (even in the new extension)
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: there is a button smart-something
[15:39] <kubav> sry -> ubuntu 11.10: how to disable backup reminder?
[15:39] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: first of all good for you, second not good *g*
[15:39] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: your hdd is ok then but your system isn't
[15:40] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, "g" ?!
[15:40] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: that is a grin, which might not be appropriate considering, htat youre in pain...
[15:41] <rizal> someone helping me!!!!
[15:41] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: i am sorry but i am slightly out of ideas, i dunno how to fix I/O errors on the home partition...
[15:41] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, :D  It's fine. Shall I try restarting my computer to see if login works?
[15:41] <remoteCTRL> rizal: what is your language?
[15:41] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: you can of course do that but i doubt that it will help... maybe a fresh install...?
[15:42] <rizal> indonesia
[15:42] <rizal> ...
[15:42] <rizal> ..
[15:43] <remoteCTRL> !id
[15:43] <remoteCTRL> erm... what just happened??
[15:44] <pangolin> mini networking issue on the side of freenode
[15:44] <pangolin> things will settle
[15:44] <remoteCTRL> i see...
[15:45] <kubav> ubuntu 11.10: how to disable annoying backup reminder?
[15:46] <g0tmi1k> kubav: Backup ?
[15:46] <kubav> g0tmi1k: yes
[15:46] <g0tmi1k> kubav: By doing a backup...
[15:46] <deicon> :P
[15:47] <remoteCTRL> deicon?
[15:47]  * Star_Light :p
[15:47] <kubav> g0tmi1k: i don't  want any backups. it's some kind of default 11.10 service
[15:47] <deicon> what
[15:48] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, the login now works (!) .. But no icons on desktop. And the booting time was too slow than usual.
[15:48] <deicon> i want ask sometink
[15:48] <deicon> somethink
[15:48] <kubav> g0tmi1k: i want to disable this backup thing forever.
[15:48] <remoteCTRL> !ask
[15:48] <g0tmi1k> apt-get remove backup
[15:48] <deicon> i have windows 7 and linux
[15:48] <deicon> i had 2 partitions
[15:49] <g0tmi1k> deicon: but you use OSX.
[15:49] <deicon> wait
[15:49] <deicon> to finish
[15:49] <Oer> kubak, there is no standard backup service reminder. you must have used backup and set the schedule.
[15:49] <g0tmi1k> no
[15:49] <remoteCTRL> deicon: congratulations, first step to removing windows :)
[15:49] <deicon> i had 2 partitions of my hdd
[15:49] <deicon> i had backtrack and ubuntu
[15:49] <deicon> i ve removed backtrack and i installed windows 7
[15:50] <remoteCTRL> i already sense the question :)
[15:50] <deicon> but now i believe that grub deleted so i cant dual boot
[15:50] <Oer> kubak open back=up and set automatic backup to off
[15:50] <deicon> i dont have the option to choose
[15:50] <remoteCTRL> deicon: correct
[15:50] <deicon> i used bcd
[15:50] <deicon> but i need some help
[15:50] <kubav> g0tmi1k: so there is no tick box instead? do i really need to remove whole service?
[15:50] <remoteCTRL> deicon: bcd?
[15:50] <deicon> remoteCTRL :yes
[15:50] <deicon> easybcd
[15:50] <angs> what is the use of cat command`
[15:50] <remoteCTRL> deicon: what is it?
[15:50] <Oer> kubak open back-up and set automatic backup to off
[15:51] <deicon> remoteCTRL : helping me for the grub
[15:51] <deicon> remoteCTRL :if i find it somewhere idk
[15:51] <deicon> :
[15:51] <remoteCTRL> deicon: i just googled it..
[15:51] <deicon> remoteCTRL :anyway can you help me to fix that
[15:52] <deicon> remoteCTRL :idk know what to google exactly
[15:52] <remoteCTRL> deicon: do the following: either use easybcd or supergrub disk to boot your ubuntu installation
[15:52] <gfc> ah
[15:52] <kubav> Oer: there is only "connect to ubuntu one" form pop up. there are no settings available.
[15:52] <deicon> remoteCTRL:yeah i have the bcd.but idk what to do
[15:52] <deicon> remoteCTRL:google restore grub via bcd?
[15:53] <Oer> deicon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[15:53] <remoteCTRL> after that execute two simple commands: sudo grub-install /dev/sda while sda being your first harddisk, if you have more and are booting from another disk than the first one you will have to adapt the command. then execute update-grub
[15:53] <deicon> remoteCTRL:i dont have the option to start ubunt
[15:53] <deicon> ubuntu
[15:53] <angs> what is the meaning of this command "cat /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/uart1_txd" ?
[15:53] <deicon> remoteCTRL: iam using windows 7 right now
[15:53] <deicon> Oer: copy that
[15:54] <remoteCTRL> deicon: you can either use a live cd to boot ubuntu or supergrub disk
[15:54] <gfc> what
[15:54] <remoteCTRL> deicon: or what Oer said...
[15:54] <pangolin> angs, basically it means read that file and print it on the screen
[15:54] <deicon> remoteCTRL: so i can only install grub from linux?
[15:54] <deicon> remoteCTRL: with the commands?
[15:55] <angs> pangolin: thank you
[15:55] <pangolin> welcome
[15:55] <happyface> how can I turn vsync off with bumblebee/nvidia optimus? (or is there a bumblebee support channel?)
[15:55] <remoteCTRL> deicon if third party means fail to do so i recommend to do it manually of course...
[15:55] <deicon> remoteCTRL: hm
[15:55] <deicon> remoteCTRL: k
[15:55] <gfc> what
[15:55] <Oer> happyface, yes join #Bumblebee & see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:55] <angs> what is the command on ubuntu to calculate the checksum of a file?
[15:55] <remoteCTRL> deicon: it is not hard to do, just the above two commands
[15:56] <deicon> remoteCTRL: yeah but i wanted to do this via windows
[15:56] <happyface> Oer: tyvm
[15:56] <remoteCTRL> deicon: no way...;)
[15:56] <deicon> remoteCTRL:i dont have the cd right
[15:56] <deicon> remoteCTRL:so i must wait a bnit
[15:56] <deicon> remoteCTRL:so i must wait a bit
[15:56] <deicon> remoteCTRL:thats why
[15:57] <remoteCTRL> deicon: sorry for that dude, but that is way-to-go
[15:57] <remoteCTRL> if you are on win currently just download supergrub disks i has only a few mb, and burn it
[15:58] <remoteCTRL> or put it on a usb drive, or whatever:)
[16:01] <kubav> sry, thx
[16:04] <peter>   
[16:06] <angs> what does this command do "sudo chown -R `whoami` /usr/local/angstrom"
[16:07] <Nach0z> angs: it makes `whoami` the owner of /usr/local/angstrom and all subdirectories and files
[16:07] <Nach0z> but you don't necessarily need the `s around the name
[16:07] <zykotic10> Nach0z: lol - not quite, whoami would become the username
[16:08] <zykotic10> Nach0z: `` is used to run an external command sorta thing
[16:08] <remoteCTRL> Nach0z: angs quite, but not precisely: the `whoami` in the command gives out your username and replaces it with it
[16:08] <llutz> angs: doesn't your teacher want _you_ to do the homework, not us?
[16:08] <angs> it is not a HW, http://wiki.buglabs.net/index.php/Software:Toolchain
[16:08] <angs> I am following instructions here and I wonder what does it mean
[16:08] <angs> that command
[16:09] <angs> thank you for the answers
[16:09] <remoteCTRL> np
[16:11] <Nach0z> oh
[16:11] <Nach0z> huh
[16:11] <Nach0z> didn't know you could sub in a command that way remoteCTRL / zykotic10
[16:11] <Nach0z> thought you had to do that via $(command)
[16:11] <Nach0z> like, kill -9 $(pidof java)
[16:11] <zykotic10> Nach0z: that's actually the old way - you should be using $(command) these days
[16:12] <Nach0z> alright, so i'm not crazy then. woo.
[16:12] <remoteCTRL> Nach0z: the $ thing is reading out an environment variable normally i never saw that before :D
[16:12] <remoteCTRL> now we all learned something new *g*
[16:12] <Nach0z> lol yup
[16:12] <tjf> How do I  go about recompiling OpenSSL to replace the current version without removing the current one?
[16:12] <Nach0z> except zykotic10
[16:12] <tjf> because removing the current one will also remove some other very important pckages
[16:13] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, thanks for your help.  I, at least, can move all my files in my encrypted home directory to other partitions if I want to reinstall ubuntu.
[16:13] <rizal> hay
[16:13] <rizal> someone helping me!!!
[16:13] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: my pleasure! :)
[16:13] <remoteCTRL> !id | riza
[16:14] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, one last question : any tip on how to enable desktop icons?!
[16:14] <remoteCTRL> tjf: actually shouldn't you be using gnutls instead of openssl?
[16:14] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: not if you cannot restore the .ICEAuthority, and just to make it clear: this is a major issue, do NOT ignore it!
[16:15] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, how do I make a iceauthority file?
[16:15] <itaylor57> tjf, install it to /usr/local/bin
[16:15] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: as described before, ifg it is not there it is being created automatically on login
[16:15] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: it cannot be created due to severe filesystem errors
[16:16] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, yes.  File system check on my /home may fix it?
[16:16] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Shall I boot into fedora 16 and do file system check on /home partition of ubuntu?
[16:16] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: i doubt it, jou have INPUT/OUTPUT errors, as stated previously that is an indicator that something is severely going wrong
[16:17] <tjf> remoteCTRL: should I?
[16:17] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: nothing to joke about, do IMMEDIATELY backup all data that are dear to you!
[16:18] <remoteCTRL> tjf: from what i know openssl has been replaced by gnutls, yes
[16:18] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, in Gconfeditor>apps>nautilus> Show desktop key is disabled. And I can't enable it!  Got this gconf location in an askubuntu page
[16:18] <tjf> remoteCTRL: openssl just released 1.x the other day, iirc.
[16:18] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, okay, to start doing a backup!
[16:18] <remoteCTRL> at least that is so if you try to create a certificate authority
[16:18] <itaylor57> !info openssl
[16:19] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Gconfeditor>apps>nautilus>preferences> show desktop key, that is.
[16:19] <aking1012> hi all
[16:19] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: the showdesktop thing minimizes all of your open applications, that has nothing to do with your missing icons
[16:19] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Haha! Ok!   The name has just made me think that way!
[16:19] <rizal> ....
[16:20] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: well wishful thinking...:)
[16:20] <remoteCTRL> rizal?
[16:20] <remoteCTRL> !id | rizal
[16:21] <Niya> I'm trying to set a buddy icon in empathy (for AIM) and, after I select an image, it isn't accepted.  (The default blank thing remains)
[16:21] <tjf> remoteCTRL: nodejs seems to think that I need openssl
[16:21] <tjf>   nodejs-dev: Depends: libssl-dev (>= 0.9.8) but it is not going to be installed
[16:22] <Niya> How do I fix that? o.o
[16:23] <remoteCTRL> tjf: i am sorry dude but i am on thin ice and therefore better shut up :)
[16:26] <tjf> remoteCTRL: hehe, okay
[16:27] <roasted> Anybody good with rsync? Curious how I can set up an exclude list. Is it just --exclude-from=/path/to/exclude/list?
[16:27] <remoteCTRL> tjf: i can only tell you this much: i have created a selfsigned certificate recently and when i attempted to create the CA Authority i ran in to loads of error messages. the fix was to use gnutls instead of openssl...
[16:28] <OneFix> I'm having problems with 12.04 ... my keyboard and mouse stopped working in x11
[16:28] <wylde> !precise | OneFix
[16:29] <OneFix> anyone know how to fix this?
[16:29] <tjf> remoteCTRL: I should probably ask in #ubuntu-server, not here...
[16:29] <remoteCTRL> roasted: -C, --cvs-exclude
[16:30] <remoteCTRL> roasted: or: -f, --filter=RULE        This option allows you to add rules to selectively exclude certain files from the list of files to be transferred
[16:31] <remoteCTRL> roasted: or --exclude=PATTERN   or: --exclude-from=FILE
[16:31] <roasted> remoteCTRL: I just want to set up a list so I can clean up my command. That way instead of having 20 --exclude's I can have 20 items in a file, and reference the file in my command.
[16:32] <remoteCTRL> roasted: well man rsync confirms that what you mentioned is one possible way to acchieve that
[16:32] <roasted> remoteCTRL: yes, I've been in man rsync. But I'm not sure why my command isn't working. Hence why I was asking for further clarification on it.
[16:32] <injureddeer> CREATE TABLE psadpol( id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT, PRIMARY KEY(id), network text, as text, description text);
[16:32] <injureddeer> what is wrong/
[16:32] <roasted> Anybody good with rsync? Curious how I can set up an exclude list. Is it just --exclude-from=/path/to/exclude/list?
[16:33] <remoteCTRL> roasted: different situation:what exactly isnt working? does it do nothing owr what happens?
[16:33] <Fyodorovna> !rsync
[16:34] <roasted> remoteCTRL: the output errors out on a specific item because I don't have permissions to it. So I excluded it, but it's still erroring out
[16:34] <Medjai> does anyone know how to edit the keyboard shortcuts overlay when you hold down the super button?
[16:34] <roasted> Fyodorovna: yes, yes, we know.
[16:34] <Fyodorovna> roasted, pardon?
[16:34] <roasted> remoteCTRL: for some reason it's still "included" in the command.
[16:34] <remoteCTRL> roasted: try instead of the path to the file to use a simple "-" which will prompt you for the files to omit, and see what happens then?
[16:35] <roasted> remoteCTRL: yes, but then I have to exclude 20 items. that negates the point.
[16:36] <remoteCTRL> roasted: do it only for ONE and see what happens
[16:36] <roasted> remoteCTRL: it works if I do it individually. It does not work if I use the exclude list. that's why I'm asking for clarification on... the exclude list...
[16:36] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, my ubuntu is going very unresponsive as the time increases!  Didn't expect this to happen. The disk is healthy as disk utility said.  The ubuntu os worked fine till 7 hours ago. And this problem came out of nowhere... I only thought such problems arising out of nothing in the *other* os :(
[16:37] <harry__> how come i am not able to join the ##java channel?
[16:37] <remoteCTRL> roasted: no need to be neither impatient nor cynical dude, if you want me to stop trying to help you just say the word...
[16:37] <roasted> remoteCTRL: I'm simply saying, what you're suggesting I've already done. I feel as though I stressed that several times.
[16:37] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: it is hard to tell per remote diagnosis what is causing your issue.
[16:37] <ksbalaji> starting some apps freezes 10.4.
[16:38] <caB00T> Anyone shared a folder in VirtualBox having Ubuntu as guest?
[16:38] <roasted> remoteCTRL: I just need clarification with the exclude list. Not individual items. Just the exclude list.
[16:38] <xangua> !register | some channel need to you be registered harry__
[16:38] <ksbalaji> For instance, starting gparted freezes everything. I have to press restart button! any explanation please?
[16:39] <Guest28140> bonjour
[16:39] <remoteCTRL> roasted: you said you didnt want to write 20 exclude patterns in one commandline, well i was under the impression that writing something to a command line is something different thyn to be prompted for it, but since you seem to know better i will take myself out of the equasion, maxybe you can annoy somebody else...
[16:39] <Guest28140> hello
[16:39] <harry__> Thanks much xangua
[16:39] <harry__> and ubottu..thanks
[16:40] <roasted> remoteCTRL: That sounds best. After all, I'm looking for clarification on the matter, which would suggest I would need to talk to somebody with more experience. Thanks for your time.
[16:40] <aking1012> @ksbalaji - gparted does not universally freeze 10.04 - it's unique to your box
[16:40] <kexsteve> hello, when I type in vbeinfo in the console it said command not found. How do I fix it?
[16:40] <sepoki> which processor is better for LINUX - AMD FX-8120 or i5-2500
[16:40] <remoteCTRL> roasted: maybe you also need a session with a psychologist on your anger issues? please dont talk to me any further
[16:40] <ksbalaji> aking1012, not only gparted, even update-manager does it. But any explanation please?
[16:41] <roasted> remoteCTRL: lol. You're taking it a bit too far for this channel my friend. Once again, just looking for some help on the issue. As I said, thanks for your time. :D
[16:41] <roasted> remoteCTRL: have a good day bro
[16:41] <roasted> Anybody good with rsync? Curious how I can set up an exclude list. Is it just --exclude-from=/path/to/exclude/list?
[16:41] <jrib> roasted: yes.
[16:41] <aking1012> @ksbalaji - I don't have an explanation beyond 'works for me'
[16:41] <Oer> ksbalaji, freesing or unresponsive for a few seconds ? i noticed this with softwarecentre too, it is fixed in 12.04
[16:42] <szal> free sing? ;)
[16:42] <roasted> hey there jrib. you've used exclude lists?
[16:42] <jrib> roasted: ask your actual question please
[16:42] <Oer> szal c/freezing
[16:42] <Fyodorovna> ksbalaji, this a fresh install or one now not working
[16:42] <ksbalaji> Some apps to do with administrative jobs freeze the PC. Oer, I have to restart the PC. No amount of waiting solves.
[16:42] <roasted> jrib: well, I kind of did in my initial question. Is it just --exclude-from=/path/to/exclude/list?
[16:42] <jrib> roasted and remoteCTRL: I missed the beginning of the discussion and don't care who started it but keep in mind we're here to help out one another (and helpers are volunteering their free time) so try to be more friendly/last sarcastic
[16:42] <jrib> roasted: I answered that
[16:43] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, I thank you for helping me till now!
[16:43] <roasted> jrib: easily understood. :D
[16:43] <roasted> jrib: oh, I thought your "yes" was simply saying you had experience with it.
[16:43] <remoteCTRL> jrib: that is exactly what i was trying to explain to the man
[16:43] <ksbalaji> Fyodorovna, I regularly upgrade from hardy.
[16:43] <jrib> remoteCTRL: yes, I believe that's the proper syntax for a file with a list of paths to exclude
[16:43] <ksbalaji> now I have 10.4
[16:43] <Fyodorovna> ksbalaji, you did a eol update when?
[16:44] <jrib> roasted: yes, I believe that's the proper syntax for a file with a list of paths to exclude
[16:44] <remoteCTRL> jrib:  heres what i wrote further up: (05:37:16 PM) remoteCTRL: roasted: no need to be neither impatient nor cynical dude, if you want me to stop trying to help you just say the word...
[16:44] <remoteCTRL> jrib: it is roasted whoi seeks help, buzt thank you!
[16:44] <ksbalaji> Fyodorovna, I only upgrade to LTS right from gutsy.
[16:44] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: my pleasure!
[16:45] <Fyodorovna> ksbalaji, you're not making sense.
[16:45] <roasted> jrib: aint working :(
[16:45] <kexsteve> "vbeinfo: command not found" any idea of how to fix it?
[16:45] <ksbalaji> Fyodorovna, ? :(
[16:45] <harry7491> Cannot join #java (Channel is invite only). getting this message???
[16:45] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: which command?
[16:45] <kexsteve> vbeinfo
[16:45] <Oer> !register | harry7491
[16:45] <jrib> roasted: pastebin your command, the contents of the exclude file, the full output of the command, and a brief description of what exactly isn't working
[16:46] <Oer> harry7491, this is also needed for #java
[16:46] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: what is it supposet to do and where have you got it from?
[16:47] <Krishna_> !logs > Krishna_
[16:47] <ksbalaji> Fyodorovna, my update-manager does the job of updating regularly. This freezing problem exists for the past 2 months only.
[16:48] <Fyodorovna> ksbalaji, yupgrades rather then a fresh install.ou mentioned upgrades from end of life releases, I suspect yor problem lies in doing
[16:49] <Fyodorovna> ksbalaji, you mention upgrades from end of life releases I suspect you problem is there.
[16:50] <kexsteve> remoteCTRL, it supposes to show all the available graphic resolution that works for grub and the splash.
[16:50] <ksbalaji> Fyodorovna, You suggest that I install fresh? - That would be a very big job for me. I do not even know how many apps I have installed to tune my PC.
[16:50] <jrib> !clone | ksbalaji
[16:50] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: and you got this information from?
[16:51] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, I'm sorry to point out a mistake. But you told me "ls -l /home/krishna/.ICEAuthority" but the  A on Authority is a lowercase one.. I just found out that file in my home directory.. Can you please give me a command to do *something* on that file?
[16:51] <jrib> ksbalaji: (if you care to go the fresh install root)
[16:51] <ksbalaji> jrib ! Thanks for the info
[16:51] <ksbalaji> after so many days ! thanks again jrib.
[16:51] <injureddeer> someone have nmap?
[16:52] <jrib> injureddeer: nmap is in ubuntu's repositories if you want to have it :)
[16:52] <injureddeer> i know but i need someone to test my IDS
[16:52] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, that command now says "-rw------- 1 krishna krishna 178628 2012-03-24 21:16 /home/krishna/.ICEauthority"
[16:52] <injureddeer> jrib: can u scan my?
[16:52] <jrib> injureddeer: no, that's not really on-topic here either
[16:52] <kexsteve> remoteCTRL, in '/etc/default/grub'
[16:52] <injureddeer> :(
[16:52] <zorbama> Hello0
[16:52] <injureddeer> this is ubuntu ids
[16:53] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: i did?? i am sorry, but then i still am out of ideas on how to correct INPUT/OUTPUT errors on the file system. or in other words: that unfortunately does not change anything about the trouble you're in...
[16:53] <jrib> roasted: I'm stepping out for a bit but if you pastebin that information, it will make it easier for others to help
[16:53] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: one moment please
[16:54] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, Okay.. May I know if the output of that command - the expected one?
[16:55] <milord80> !list
[16:56] <asarch> !upgrade
[16:56] <injureddeer> !anal
[16:56] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: highly interesting indeed!
[16:56]  * tjf glares
[16:56] <milord80> !games
[16:56] <Belial`> how come gnome-shell has been antialiasing over unity? is this is an issue with metacity or compiz?
[16:57] <Belial`> been=better
[16:57] <paperke67>  /msg ubottu !alis
[16:57] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: you do have the correct output now but you are still having INPUT/OUTPUT ERRORS!! please dnt be mad at me, krishna but i am frankly spoken getting a little tired of repeating this
[16:57] <milord80> !lis
[16:58] <milord80> !lista
[16:58] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' what could they mean by "real grub"?
[16:59] <injureddeer> someone have nmap and can scan me?
[17:00] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, No no, I did understand when you first told me one hour ago that there were I/O errors.  I am just having a tiny bit of hope on getting it fixed somehow.... Sorry!
[17:00] <Oer> injureddeer, not the propper channel for your request.
[17:00] <injureddeer> what will be propper?
[17:00] <bobweaver> injureddeer, why ? this is a ubuntu related chatroom for support is this for support ?
[17:00] <injureddeer> i think nothing is propper when someone use ubuntu
[17:00] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: which is a valid desire, but i am under the impression that you're a little bit in denial...:)
[17:00] <injureddeer> ._.
[17:00] <injureddeer> bobweaver: support for iptables rules?
[17:01] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: it is a command for the grub2 prompt
[17:01] <blez`> hello
[17:02] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL, because I can't leave my ubuntu 10.10 to any newer ubuntu because I don't prefer unity nor gnome3.  And all the customizations I have applied over the course of time, I just love them so much!   :(
[17:02] <blez`> can I get the old "Applications" button on Unity?
[17:02] <Devilz> hi everyone.
[17:02] <StevenR> Krishna_: use xfce (xubuntu-desktop) or something else?
[17:02] <blez`> or at least remove the shortcuts button
[17:02] <Devilz> can anyone plz help me i am not able to use my ubuntu
[17:03] <remoteCTRL> kexsteve: Resolutions available to GRUB 2 can be displayed by typing vbeinfo in the GRUB 2 command line. The command line is accessed by typing "c" when the main GRUB 2 menu screen is displayed.
[17:03] <Krishna_> remoteCTRL,  "Denial" is the word. Since I never thought such a problem could arise out of nowhere in a Gnu-Linux Distro like in ** !  Sorry!
[17:03] <kexsteve> oic~
[17:03] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: i perfectly understand you, yet still...
[17:03] <diespeed> hi
[17:03] <milord80> !list
[17:04] <Devilz> when i select ubuntu then it tries to load for few secs then i see a multicolored screen and nothing happens after that
[17:04] <Fyodorovna> Devilz, this a live cd or a install?
[17:04] <Devilz> a wubi install
[17:05] <Fyodorovna> Devilz, a fresh wubi install?
[17:05] <remoteCTRL> Krishna_: well you would not believe what i thought was not possible, yet still linux problems are to 95% better repairable than *** problems, and with the rest 5% youre just as *** with *** ...
[17:05] <reasearcher123> I have removed password by enabling Login without a password. But now I want to set password.What can I do?
[17:05] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | Devilz
[17:05] <Devilz> i installed it about 2 months ago donlt knwo whether i should say it a fresh one or not
[17:06] <Fyodorovna> Devilz, wubi is not for longterm installs basically you might consider a regular dualboot.
[17:06] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: several possibilities: either you type passwd into a command prompt or u use the systems user-manager
[17:07] <Devilz> oh ok didn;t know that. but is there any way i can save the ubuntu data anyhow?! its realy imp for me
[17:07] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: when I use command prompt it asks for earlier password which does not exist at all
[17:07] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: of course it does
[17:08] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: The what password do I enter. I dont have any
[17:08] <Fyodorovna> Devilz, possibly you will probably get more specific help on the ubuntu forums though.
[17:08] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: what do you mean by "does not exist at all"?
[17:08] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: I have set no password for that username
[17:08] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: for what account are you trying to change the password?
[17:08] <Devilz> is the link given by ubottu useful for my case?
[17:09] <remoteCTRL> then switch to a use4r that has administrative privileges and enter passwd username
[17:09] <Fyodorovna> Devilz, you might get it fixed there, then you can transfer the wubi to a partition.
[17:09] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: the account using which I logged in automatically.Its adminsitratiove privileges
[17:09] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: look. just because you are not prompted for the password during boot time does not mean that there is no password set
[17:10] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: ok.Let me try that
[17:10] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: of course you set a password at some point, percisely during installation, and that one is still valid
[17:10] <multiHYP> hi all
[17:10] <multiHYP> how can i install jetty 8 on 11.10?
[17:11] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: sudo apt-get install jetty
[17:11] <multiHYP> that would be jetty 6
[17:11] <multiHYP> the whole setting has been drastically changed, so i have jetty 8 locally and would be nice if i can install the same version on the server
[17:12] <remoteCTRL> i see...
[17:12] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: It says Authentication required to change user data.When I enter the password which was created at the time of system installation, it says authentication failure
[17:12] <remoteCTRL> so what about downloading and installing it manually?
[17:12] <reasearcher123> remoteCTRL: ??
[17:12] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: that is too bad :D
[17:13] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: i was talking to multiHYP
[17:13] <bobweaver> multiHYP, you have tried http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/
[17:13] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: how manage-able would that be? could i remove it if necessary + the dependencies as easily as it is with auto remove?
[17:13] <reasearcher123> ok
[17:13] <multiHYP> bobweaver: i know, but i haven't
[17:13] <multiHYP> :s
[17:13] <remoteCTRL> remoteCTRL: if you doint have any clue about your passwords there is actually only one thing that comes to my min spontaneously, and that is to boot via live cd and manually remove the hash for the password in /etc/shadow
[17:14] <superdave321> My pcmcia wifi adapter needs reinstalling the driver in ndiswrapper each time i reboot. what can i do to keep it from deinstalling it?
[17:14] <caB00T> vbox
[17:14] <caB00T> Sorry, mt.
[17:14] <reasearcher123> ok
[17:14] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: in what form is it being distributed? are there .deb packages? if so the removal is just as easy as the installation IF the libraries are yet compatible
[17:14] <multiHYP> bobweaver: i wish ubuntu had something like brew
[17:14] <multiHYP> yes remoteCTRL
[17:15] <multiHYP> never used .deb packages
[17:15] <remoteCTRL> reasearcher123: if you doint have any clue about your passwords there is actually only one thing that comes to my min spontaneously, and that is to boot via live cd and manually remove the hash for the password in /etc/shadow
[17:15] <bobweaver> !dpkg | multiHYP
[17:15] <remoteCTRL> gosh, that was too much for him :D
[17:16] <multiHYP> bobweaver: i barely know ubuntu and am scared of debian :)
[17:16] <bobweaver> lol yeah I hear that ubuntu uses alot of debians stuff
[17:16] <multiHYP> inter-dependency issues that might arise...
[17:16] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: never mind i would not know how bobweaver's comment would help you ...
[17:16] <multiHYP> otherwise i would replicate and manually install all packages i use under brew (os x) on the ubuntu server
[17:17] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: ya that is exactly what i meant by "if the libraries are compatible yet"...
[17:17] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: got a link to their site for me?
[17:17] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: how can i make sure of that?
[17:17] <bobweaver> it is not that hard all you do is a : dpkg -i <name of package in terminal >   if you get error fix
[17:17] <multiHYP> bobweaver mentioned it, i had it too: http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/8.1.1.v20120215/
[17:18] <Fanshawe> Guys: PiTiVi (the video editing software) has no codecs. I can't import anything to it, and upon a search for packages that have the codecs, nothing appears.
[17:18] <Fanshawe> what's going on?
[17:18] <mobius999> Hey guys, I was wondering: If I post a log file output to pastebin, would someone be willing to look at it and explain a few things to me? I'm trying to determine if my computer has been compromised by some unauthorized user
[17:18] <mobius999> I'm relatively new to canonical, and I have many questions
[17:18] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: simple enuff: if it is a deb package and it is not compatible every installer will cry out loud and clearly that it isnt
[17:19] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: ok on thir homepage there is a link for debian distros
[17:19] <StevenR> mobius999: aye, throw it up there, I'm sure someone will take a look
[17:19] <mobius999> StevenR,  thanks mate
[17:19] <multiHYP> http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/8.0.4.v20111024/ <- this is the exact version i have on os x, how can i install it on the ubuntu server?
[17:20] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: looking at this: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Debian+Packages not at all?
[17:20] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: OH, wait a second before you let ,me jump to conlusions:)
[17:21] <multiHYP> no remoteCTRL, you keep looking at version 6
[17:21] <multiHYP> i need version 8
[17:21] <multiHYP> they don't promote is even officially
[17:21] <multiHYP> it weird
[17:21] <DexterF> can one blacklist a sound card's sound modules and still have the gameport?
[17:21] <rawfodog> a bunch of stuff in my home directory got deleted. I was wondering if there were log files in ubuntu to help me check into why this happened ?
[17:21] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: i was following links on their page and i was jumping to conclusions, gimme a sec pls
[17:22] <multiHYP> yes the link me and bobweaver shared is found via google search. code house doesn't promote it officially, i don't know why
[17:22] <caB00T> When I see usr/bin , is usr my "user name" or just what it is?
[17:23] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: if i try to open this http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/8.0.4.v20111024/jetty-deb-8.0.4.v20111024.deb with software-center i get a clear install button, so there should not be any compat probs
[17:23] <multiHYP> caB00T: generic usr
[17:23] <multiHYP> caB00T: you are under /home/yourusername
[17:23] <caB00T> So /usr/bin/ always is the usr folder from system?
[17:23] <multiHYP> yes
[17:23] <mobius999> http://pastebin.com/GP1sscck
[17:24] <wollw> I'm trying to write a udev rule to run a script when I plug my usb keyboard in and I'm having some trouble.  I'm probably doing something stupid but I can't seem to figure this out.  From what I understand this /should/ work but I'm obviously doing something wrong: http://pastie.org/3661392
[17:24] <caB00T> Alright, and do I have to write the last backslash? Or is /usr/bin enough?
[17:24] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: i have an ssh terminal only, no nice buttons :)
[17:24] <mobius999> Thats a log file,  what interests me most there are references to a program called "snort"
[17:24] <multiHYP> caB00T: depends
[17:24] <caB00T> But is considered a good practice then to do it? To put the last / always?
[17:25] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: in that case you wget http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/8.0.4.v20111024/jetty-deb-8.0.4.v20111024.deb and then sudo dpkg -i jetty-deb-8.0.4.v20111024.deb install it
[17:25] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: i know apt-get very well, via terminal, but no idea how debian package manager works
[17:25] <mobius999> I was doing some basic privacy hardening on my personal laptop, and was horrified to learn about zeitgeist and all that,  and so I continued on to determine if canonical happened to bundle any other spyware with ubuntu
[17:25] <multiHYP> ok
[17:25] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: no worries about dependencies or interoperability between this and my other apt-get installations?
[17:25] <mobius999> every file i ever opened since i oiwned my computer
[17:25] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  there are a couple of packages that you might want to look at
[17:25] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: no need to know anything furhter, download it with the wget command above, install it with the dpkg -i command above
[17:25] <mobius999> every photo i ever looked at
[17:26] <mobius999> even messages in irc were recored
[17:26] <bobweaver> on touse links that is
[17:26] <mobius999> by default
[17:26] <mobius999> and it's all hidden
[17:26] <llutz> mobius999: why do you run snort if you don't know what it is/how to read the logs?
[17:26] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: nope, and if so the package manager lets you know so. that is the sense of a package manager (amongst others)
[17:27] <multiHYP> nice, thanks remoteCTRL
[17:28] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: my pleasure!
[17:29] <remoteCTRL> mobius999: inform yourself about zeitgeist here: http://gnomejournal.org/article/70/an-introduction-to-gnome-zeitgeist and then please stop insulting its developers by calling it spyware.
[17:29] <remoteCTRL> mobius999: second: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[17:29] <Astus> Guys, can I update an persistent USB, reboot and expect for it to work?
[17:30] <Astus> *flash drive
[17:30] <remoteCTRL> Astus: well if it is persistent you got your answer there already, dont you?
[17:31] <Astus> remoteCTRL: Wow. Thanks for the answer.
[17:31] <Fyodorovna> Astus, possibly, but a persistent gets full and can not be cleaned.
[17:32] <mobius999> remoteCTRL,  thanks for that, all is well now with the world.... what was I thinking?   I should just install a keylogger and while I'm at  it,  post my root password right here for ya....
[17:32] <mobius999> remoteCTRL,   if your not here to help,  then leave me alone
[17:32] <llutz> mobius999: stop trolling pls
[17:33] <multiHYP> one little issue remoteCTRL: http://pastebin.com/38wmTE62
[17:34] <mobius999> so like I was saying,   The keystroke recorder called zeitgeist,  which records everything the user does while remaining very well hidden in the background is a bit troubling to me.... I  find it interesting that a program which does the same EXACT thing in Windows is called a virus....do it in *nix and it's an honorable thing
[17:34] <multiHYP> i did that once with sudo and once as a root
[17:35] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  1st error cp: cannot stat `/opt/jetty/bin/jetty.sh': No such file or directory    need to get that file also
[17:35] <bobweaver> and put it there
[17:35] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: have you by any means installed jetty-hightide-javadoc before jetts itself??
[17:35] <multiHYP> no
[17:35] <mobius999> but yeah,  I have a few bitcoin for anyone willing to help
[17:35] <multiHYP> i had jetty 6 via apt-get that i removed and purged
[17:35] <mobius999> just holler
[17:35] <remoteCTRL> ok, then lets start with the happy debugging session:D
[17:35] <multiHYP> bobweaver: but this supposed to be part of installation, i don't have it
[17:36] <multiHYP> ok
[17:36] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: do sudo updatedb && sudo locate jetty.sh
[17:36] <bobweaver> it is saying that it can not find that file so no you do not have it or it is not in the right place
[17:37] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: ok not output
[17:37] <bobweaver> sudo find -name  jetty*
[17:37] <bobweaver> no
[17:37] <multiHYP> bobweaver: yes, so presumably errors because of installation fail
[17:37] <bobweaver> sudo find / -name  jetty*
[17:37] <bobweaver> there you go
[17:37] <bobweaver> ^^
[17:38] <multiHYP> yes, there are some copies but in other places
[17:38] <multiHYP> did i just mess up my server?
[17:38] <bobweaver> no the find command is used to find things
[17:38] <remoteCTRL> whut?? find found it and locate did NOT?!?
[17:38] <multiHYP> its under /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and so on
[17:38] <bobweaver> remoteCTRL,  locate is not as powerful so to say
[17:39] <multiHYP> yes, but i wanted to avoid a failed installation
[17:39] <bobweaver> multiHYP, please pastebin us the out put of the find command
[17:39] <bobweaver> !pastebin | multiHYP
[17:39] <multiHYP> now i have a semi install and cannot clean it up like with apt-get
[17:39] <remoteCTRL> bobweaver: i know find has a gazillion options, but until now i was of the impression, that locate does what is should, namely LOCATE,  though
[17:40] <bobweaver> multiHYP, to clean up with dpkg we use the -r option
[17:40] <multiHYP> http://pastebin.com/LpQzQ34W
[17:40] <bobweaver> dpkg -r <name of .deb >
[17:40] <remoteCTRL> WOW wait a second!
[17:40] <bobweaver> -r remove
[17:40] <remoteCTRL> why are we purging it already?
[17:40] <multiHYP> ok let me remove it and if it works cleanly start a new
[17:40] <remoteCTRL> install?
[17:40] <bobweaver> you have to uninstall the 1st one
[17:40] <remoteCTRL> what did i just miss?
[17:41] <remoteCTRL> the 6 version you mean?
[17:41] <multiHYP> sudo dpkg -r jetty says there is no package
[17:41] <bobweaver> that looks to be 6. something
[17:41] <multiHYP> no the failed 8th version
[17:41] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  where is the .deb package that you installed ?
[17:41] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: sudo apt-get purge jetty
[17:41] <bobweaver> or tried to that is
[17:42] <bobweaver> like the one you downloaded
[17:42] <multiHYP> here /home/multiHYP/jetty-deb-8.0.4.v20111024-javadoc.deb
[17:42] <JOHNYY> http://www.wix.com/jetomestil/hot-ass-collection VERY BEAUTIFUL TEENS LOVES TO SHOW HOT ASSES
[17:42] <hawkal> Does anyone know where I can find the evince config/ meta data file?
[17:42] <remoteCTRL> !ops please...
[17:42] <multiHYP> fails
[17:42] <log> !ops | JOHNYY
[17:42] <multiHYP> cannot get rid of version 6 remains and version 8 fails
[17:42] <multiHYP> what a mess
[17:43] <oxidizer> hi
[17:43] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  cd   <- in terminal then sudo dpkg -r jetty-d*
[17:44] <bobweaver> that will remove all trace of what tried to install
[17:44] <bobweaver> or will try I should say
[17:44] <multiHYP> no
[17:44] <bobweaver> what is output ?
[17:44] <multiHYP> almost nothing was removed, i use that find command to look for remains
[17:44] <bobweaver> oh
[17:44] <multiHYP> (Reading database ... 61088 files and directories currently installed.)
[17:44] <multiHYP> Removing jetty-hightide-javadoc ...
[17:44] <bobweaver> that is different
[17:44] <bobweaver> good then ^^
[17:45] <bobweaver> that is the right file
[17:45] <multiHYP> but i still have jetty under /var/lib/jetty and /etc/jetty and some others
[17:45] <bobweaver> multiHYP,   download this link http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/8.1.2.v20120308/jetty-deb-8.1.2.v20120308.deb
[17:45] <bobweaver> then put it under /opt/
[17:45] <remoteCTRL> that is because you removed jetty-d*
[17:46] <bobweaver> what :S
[17:46] <remoteCTRL> the reminiscenses
[17:46] <multiHYP> remoteCTRL: no
[17:46] <remoteCTRL> ok
[17:46] <multiHYP> i did jetty-d* jetty* jetty
[17:47] <remoteCTRL> mhm
[17:47] <bobweaver> did you DL the file I told you to and mv it to opt  ? multiHYP ?
[17:47] <multiHYP> yes
[17:47] <Caifas1> hello guys, how can i disable usb auto mount on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:47] <multiHYP> bobweaver: ^
[17:47] <bobweaver> good
[17:47] <bobweaver> same with this one http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/mortbay/jetty/dist/jetty-deb/8.1.2.v20120308/jetty-deb-8.1.2.v20120308-javadoc.deb
[17:48] <bobweaver> then make folder in opt called jetty and mv all into that folder
[17:48] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[17:49] <multiHYP> bobweaver: wait 1 sec
[17:49] <multiHYP> i am running a bit behind
[17:50] <bobweaver> multiHYP, please by all means take your time
[17:50] <multiHYP> bobweaver: remoteCTRL: i think i made a mistake and only tried to install the javadoc part. there are two .deb packages i noticed
[17:50] <blez> how to remove unity's shortcut icon
[17:50] <bobweaver> bingo
[17:50] <blez> on the top left?
[17:50] <bobweaver> that Is why I said to look at all the links
[17:50] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: *sigh* what i was talking about...
[17:51] <Marco> Hello,
[17:51] <Caifas1> remoteCTRL: this one dont work on ubuntu 11.04
[17:51] <superdave321> what is the terminal command that switches workspaces?
[17:51] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1: why not?
[17:51] <bobweaver> just like when installing a mainline kernel multiHYP  it is easy but you need 3 packages :-)
[17:51] <remoteCTRL> do you not find the path in gconf editor?
[17:51] <Caifas1> nautilus dont have those key for auto mount
[17:51] <multiHYP> whats a mainline kernel?
[17:52] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:52] <bobweaver> !mainline
[17:52] <multiHYP> oh wow
[17:53] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1: sec pls
[17:53] <abstrakt> so I have a really strange problem, and I can't find quite the same issue on the forums or on google
[17:53] <Caifas1> Ok
[17:53] <abstrakt> my sound works, but it doesn't...
[17:53] <abstrakt> lol, it's really weird, my sound works when I plug in my headphones, but not when I unplug them
[17:53] <remoteCTRL> abstrakt: that is indeed a bizzarre problem description
[17:53] <multiHYP> abstrakt: two separate settings?
[17:53] <abstrakt> however, my windows half of my dual boot plays sound fine
[17:53] <multiHYP> os x has different settings, automatically switches in the background
[17:54] <multiHYP> maybe yours is similar
[17:54] <abstrakt> multiHYP, sure, possibly... remoteCTRL yeah it's super strange... lemme tell you one more thing
[17:54] <abstrakt> so... it *used* to be for a while, that I could solve this problem (my speakers not playing sound) by simply plugging IN my headphones, and then unplugging them
[17:54] <abstrakt> and then my speakers would play
[17:54] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1: rightclick in to the editors window and click "new"
[17:55] <abstrakt> now, and I'm not sure what's changed... my headphones are all that works, AND, the behavior of my notifications has changed
[17:55] <Caifas1> remoteCTRL: ok
[17:55] <multiHYP> done and done, thank you bobweaver
[17:55] <multiHYP> first the main, then javadocs. sweet :)
[17:55] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1: then add media_automount as key and set it to false
[17:55] <abstrakt> it used to be that, when I plugged in my headphones, my system would bring up that little "growl" style notification telling me my sound is muted, then when I would unplug the headphones, that same growl popup would show up again, except telling me that my sound was on
[17:55] <multiHYP> dpkg is very attractive
[17:56] <abstrakt> i've read the Sound FAQ on ubutuforms or help.ubuntu or something
[17:56] <remoteCTRL> multiHYP: no problem :P
[17:56] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  dpkg is the backbone of apt
[17:56] <abstrakt> i went through all the troubleshooting steps, but nothign was or is ostensibly wrong with my device that I can tell
[17:56] <bobweaver> so to say well kinda
[17:56] <abstrakt> the kernel driver is loaded
[17:56] <abstrakt> i have /dev/dsp and I can pipe data to it
[17:56] <abstrakt> i just have this really odd behavior
[17:56] <abstrakt> I'm on XFCE, if that changes anything
[17:57] <abstrakt> has anyone heard of this and or does anyone have suggestions on where this problem could actually be?
[17:57] <multiHYP> now I'm going to find nginx and mongodb to install the latest versions manually via dpkg too :)
[17:58] <abstrakt> +1 for both of those :)
[17:58] <abstrakt> i need to learn how to package things
[17:58] <abstrakt> i've tried reading the packaging guide so many times, it's just really obtuse
[17:58] <abstrakt> but right now... I need my musics :(
[17:58] <remoteCTRL> abstrakt: i can only imagine that the audio setting for some reason that i dunno stay on the headphone jack and dont jump to the speakers jack, when you pull the plug, isnt there a setting for that in xfce?
[17:58] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  there is a ppa for nginx
[17:58] <abstrakt> remoteCTRL, possibly, I'm not sure where to find it
[17:59] <abstrakt> the sound settings are limited at best
[17:59] <abstrakt> so far as I've seen
[17:59] <multiHYP> yes, saw it somewhere have to find it again
[17:59] <bobweaver> multiHYP,  http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-11.10-ispconfig-3  with a good old webmin ?
[17:59] <remoteCTRL> abstrakt: i couldnt tell from the top of my head, i havent seen xface in a while...
[17:59] <bobweaver> instead of ispconfig ?
[17:59] <abstrakt> bobweaver, uhh, nginx has their own PPA i believe
[17:59] <abstrakt> BobSapp, have you checked the website?
[17:59] <abstrakt> they have instructions on how to get the latest from PPA
[17:59] <abstrakt> or at least they did within the past year
[17:59]  * bobweaver also likes openpanel 
[17:59] <multiHYP> hm its apache though
[18:00] <abstrakt> oooh, OSS web control panels?
[18:00] <abstrakt> i've been thinking about trying one
[18:00] <multiHYP> http://www.opscode.com/
[18:00] <bobweaver> sorry about that here you go http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-11.10-with-nginx-ispconfig-3
[18:00] <multiHYP> ^ seems very popular
[18:00] <abstrakt> mostly I need to be able to manage and run an email server and let users add their own email addresses
[18:00] <abstrakt> and not suck :P
[18:00]  * remoteCTRL goes to watch spartacus and lets bobweaver take over :) night everybody!
[18:00] <Caifas1> remoteCTRL: didn't work :(
[18:00] <abstrakt> so I can have i.e. rails/mongo/postgres
[18:01] <abstrakt> multiHYP, you mean chef?
[18:01] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1:  did you log out and login afterwards?
[18:01] <multiHYP> bobweaver: now we are talking!
[18:01] <abstrakt> multiHYP, not exactly a control panel
[18:01] <Marcappuccino> Is it possible to create a FAT32 Parition in Ubuntu Persistent USB that is Windows readable? If so how?
[18:01]  * bobweaver says you gotta love puppet 
[18:01] <weox> hello , how can i know which version of X.Org i am use ??
[18:01] <multiHYP> abstrakt: yes
[18:01] <Caifas1> remoteCTRL: yse
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[18:01] <abstrakt> except chef is better... of course ;)
[18:01] <remoteCTRL> Caifas1: out of ideas then, sry...
[18:02] <abstrakt> multiHYP, yeah I'm a fan of chef
[18:02] <Caifas1> np
[18:02] <bobweaver> puppet = http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet
[18:02] <abstrakt> i suppose I should just build a custom lightweight PHP frontend to a MySQL email Db or something
[18:02] <multiHYP> abstrakt: its well hard, i need to learn it though
[18:02] <abstrakt> sshouldn't take too long to do
[18:02] <multiHYP> saves a lot of time
[18:02] <abstrakt> then i could chef up systems with my custom email admin and I'd be golden
[18:03] <weox> hello , how can i know which version of X.Org i am use ??
[18:04] <pangolin> weox, run the command: apt-cache policy xorg
[18:04] <weox> pangolin : thanks very :D
[18:05] <pangolin> welcome
[18:05] <caB00T> What exactly is this thing that pops when typing directly onto desktop. It can not run applications?
[18:07] <blez> is there any task manager on ubuntu?
[18:07] <blez> preinstalled
[18:07] <gvo> blez top
[18:07] <blez> what
[18:07] <Belial`> blez, press the super key and type "system monitor"
[18:08] <abb80> st
[18:08] <ilia_> hello
[18:09] <caB00T> What exactly is this thing that pops when typing directly onto desktop. It can not run applications?  How is it called at least so I can read up on it?
[18:09] <anthony_> just installed the new xubuntu, and im having a hell of a time setting up dual displays
[18:09] <anonymous_> anmol
[18:10] <ilia_> i have dual displays. wasnt very hard
[18:10] <anthony_> i had it working for about 2 hours yesterday, but evidentally it didnt save or something
[18:10] <ilia_> I used the ati control center for my ndivia card
[18:11] <ilia_> how to suppress all the quit or joined notifications?
[18:11] <tshakur> need a good gurl who will be a total whore for me
[18:11] <tshakur> a/s/l every1
[18:12] <tshakur> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Lv-0S20ss
[18:12] <tshakur> rip 2pac
[18:12] <hawkal> how can i clear evince saved settings?
[18:13] <log> poor LjL
[18:13] <animalitos_> guys can someone help me to install loic in my ubuntu???
[18:13] <pangolin> animalitos_, second time I tell you in two days. NO
[18:13] <pangolin> animalitos_, you ask one more time and I will ban you
[18:14] <animalitos_> whats your problem???
[18:14] <pangolin> animalitos_, this is an Ubuntu support channel, not a hacker wannabe channel.
[18:15] <makara> when is Canonical going to fix the launcher search? You have to type in the exact name of the application otherwise it doesn't see it. Crazy! What's it been, like a year?
[18:15] <mangopearapples> Hi
[18:16] <mangopearapples> Can someone tell me how I can maximize a window and have the launcher stay on top?
[18:16] <us12>  cant type 2 letters, can anybdy help me please?
[18:16] <makara> Ubuntu Software centre search does it fine
[18:16] <log> mangopearapples: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:16] <pangolin> !ccsm | mangopearapples you can change the launcher settings with ccsm
[18:17] <log> mangopearapples: Then choose "Ubuntu Unity Plugin," and change the setting from there.
[18:17] <log> pangolin: Way to steal my thunder with a factoid. ;-P
[18:17] <makara> us12: i don't understand
[18:17] <mangopearapples> thanks log
[18:18] <log> mangopearapples: No problem.
[18:18] <makara> us12: 'o' and 'w'?
[18:18] <us12> makara: cant type 2 letters. in x-sessiоn. оnly in tty
[18:19] <us12> makara: о i
[18:19] <blez> can I have the unity dock on ubuntu classic?
[18:19] <log> blez: I don't believe so... What is the advantage of using Classic if you want the Unity dock?
[18:20] <blez> I don't like the upper-left button.
[18:20] <blez> on unity
[18:20] <blez> but I like the dock
[18:20] <pangolin> !cairo
[18:20] <log> !dock | blez
[18:20] <log> blez: You can try one of those.
[18:20] <us12> makara: any ideas what it is ?
[18:21] <bobweaver> !tyui
[18:21] <log> bobweaver: Hmm?
[18:21] <log> pangolin: !cairo-dock was deleted for some reason.
[18:21]  * log shrugs.
[18:21] <bad_alloc> Hi I'm trying to download drivers for my new epson stylus sx435w and i've found this site [1] where epson indirectly supplies linux drivers. Do I need to download the amd64.deb or the x86_64.rpm package? I'm on a 64 bit ubuntu 10.04 and uname says it's a x86_64 OS. I ask because I'm used to .deb. the .rpm seems unfitting. ([1] http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/download/lsb/epson-inkjet/escp/)
[18:21] <bobweaver> log just trying to get the bots attention to talk in private
[18:22] <log> !msgthebot | BobSapp
[18:22] <Ottuzzac> ciao a tutti
[18:22] <log> er
[18:22] <log> bobweaver: &
[18:22] <log> s/&/^/
[18:22] <log> !it | Ottuzzac
[18:22] <makara> us12: they're next to each other, so I would have blamed the keyboard. I don't know
[18:22] <bobweaver> Thanks log  o\
[18:22] <log> bobweaver: No problem.
[18:22] <bobweaver> o/ *
[18:23] <us12> makara: but in tty it wrk
[18:23] <mneptok> log: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2535439407_c804122635.jpg
[18:23] <us12> *tty2
[18:24] <log> mneptok: Okay...
[18:24] <makara> us12: some corrupt data on your harddrive perhaps
[18:26] <makara> us12: a gamma ray from Epsilon 5 came a dislodged a bit in the x-session binaries. Could be anything. Have you recently installed? Did you check the checksum of the installation CD?
[18:26] <helpme> hello
[18:26] <helpme> all
[18:26] <remeses> hi
[18:27] <us12> makara: use system a lоt оf time
[18:27] <us12> mre than 2 years
[18:27] <Elfe> Hi, I wanted to manually configure my network interfaces. I changed NetworkManager.conf to say managed=true. In the interfaces file my eth0 isn't mentioned but after a restart still up.
[18:27] <makara> us12: you have some sort of funky IME installed, for foreign languages?
[18:28] <jmoreira81> question: how do i change permissions on directories only not on files?
[18:28] <llutz> jmoreira81: chmod +whatuwant dir/
[18:28] <us12> makara: dnt knоw(
[18:29] <helpme> how I can chnage folder permission (exp: chwon command) and that permission should be also for the new files add in the future
[18:29] <us12> can  i check it anyway?
[18:30] <llutz> helpme: you need acl for this (man getfacl, man setfacl)
[18:30] <makara> us12: If you didn't put it there it wouldn't be there. I assume just type in English on standard qwerty keyboard. When did the trouble begin? That will help us narrow it down.
[18:30] <jmoreira81> llutz: i dont want to affect files… i need my public directory not to be visible, but the files have to be
[18:30] <llutz> jmoreira81: chmod +whatuwant dir/
[18:30] <bringadera> hi
[18:30] <llutz> jmoreira81: man chmod
[18:31] <jmoreira81> llutz: thanks
[18:32] <gr33n7007h> Elfe, /etc/network/interfaces edit that file
[18:32] <gandhijee_> so i still can't get my nvidia card working.  i when i run the nvidia-settings command as root, it tells me ot run the nvidia-xconfig
[18:33] <Elfe> gr33n7007h: I did, eth0 is still up using the same ip address I put into network manager. I wanted to disable eth0 and use a vlan interface instead. Can the vlan interface work without eth0?
[18:34] <us12> makara: sоrry i have nоw sо many time nоw, i hоpe fоr quik answer( thanks fоr yоur time!
[18:34] <gr33n7007h> Elfe, Yes
[18:35] <gandhijee_> anyone have any ideas?  its one of those nvidia optimus laptops.
[18:35] <makara> us12: no sweat
[18:35] <nujabes> gandhijee, have you checked the nvidia site for help?
[18:36] <Elfe> gr33n7007h: When I disconnect from eth0 and connect to eth0.10 connetion using the menubar icon, I can't ping the gateway anymore. Maybe the gateway is misonfigured? I can ping the gateway if connected through eth0. Eth0 and eth0.10 are on different subnets and the gateway has ip addresses and a vlan for eth0.10 too.
[18:38] <Elfe> I can ping the gateway by both its addresses now, but eth0 has to be connected. Also the router cannot see any clients on the new vlan, despite answering to pings form eth0.10
[18:38] <AcidRain> ok. since my software center wont allow me to install any application, nor remove. what is a good program that will give me stats on my computer?
[18:38] <AcidRain> such as cpu speed, temp, memory use
[18:39] <boroowa> hai
[18:39] <boroowa> i need asomehelp :)
[18:39] <gandhijee_> nujabes, they aren't linux friendly for this problem..
[18:40] <gandhijee_> besides, i am installing this from an ubuntu package.
[18:40] <boroowa> canyou tell me, what parameter mean:"ACPI temperature"
[18:40] <boroowa> ??
[18:41] <Elfe> gandhijee_: doesn't nvidia xconfig work?
[18:41] <Elfe> did you try the "standard" drivers?
[18:41] <gandhijee_> Elfe, its not installed on my system... i have nvidia-settings but no nvidia-xconfig....
[18:41] <anthony_> how would i go about keeping wine and wine files, and installing ubuntu 64 bit
[18:42] <nujabes> gandhijee, they do make drivers for ubuntu, so i was thinking they might have the drivers for you along with instructions
[18:42] <Elfe> gandhijee_: did you read the manual of you installed drivers
[18:42] <gandhijee_> Elfe, i've installed the nvidia drivers in the past from the ubuntu packages and have never had a problem.
[18:43] <Elfe> gandhijee_: I see, neither did I. This is a different machine here.
[18:43] <boroowa> HI :0
[18:43] <Elfe> boroowa: means some temperature, why?
[18:43] <AcidRain> what program does ubuntu have to get system temps?
[18:44] <nujabes> is it wrong to post links on here?
[18:44] <boroowa> because I have temp more than 70Cdeegres?
[18:44] <AcidRain> nujabes: depends on what link
[18:44] <smw> nujabes, depends on the reason.
[18:44] <llutz> helpme: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/ACL/linux-acl.html
[18:44] <AcidRain> boroowa: how do you find out your temps?
[18:44] <caB00T> Once I select how I want to view my folders, how do I "Apply to all folders"?
[18:44] <nujabes> gandhijee, http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/README/chapter-03.html
[18:44] <nujabes> sound like you can download it
[18:44] <smw> nujabes, links are ok if they are being used as tools to do something allowed on this channel (help or ask for help)
[18:44] <boroowa> from widget from conky\
[18:45] <boroowa> but
[18:45] <nujabes> thanks
[18:45] <AcidRain> boroowa: do you know any other programs that will do it? i want a continuous monitor on my temps
[18:45] <boroowa> command acpi  -t
[18:45] <AcidRain> boroowa: i looked at hardinfo, but it doesnt tell temps
[18:45] <boroowa> giveme
[18:45] <boroowa> aansver
[18:45] <boroowa> 76 degrees
[18:45] <boroowa> but
[18:45] <boroowa> it is proc temp
[18:46] <AcidRain> yeah thats what i want
[18:46] <caB00T> Once I select how I want to view my folders, how do I "Apply to all folders"?
[18:46] <AcidRain> well i wnat temps on everything
[18:46] <AcidRain> and i want a gui to do it
[18:46] <caB00T> I want everything to be a list?
[18:46] <AcidRain> i dont want to go to terminal everytime
[18:47] <Elfe> gr33n7007h: thanks, I'll look again, seems the virtual interface didn't survive a reboot
[18:48] <nujabes>  how well does linux run on an intel mac?
[18:48] <KyLE-MaClEoD> /Jong
[18:48] <ikonia> nujabes: just fine
[18:48] <KyLE-MaClEoD> /joing
[18:48] <ikonia> KyLE-MaClEoD: what's the issue ?
[18:49] <nujabes> ikonia, there's drivers for airport and what not?
[18:49] <[[thufir]]> to change the hostname, I just edit /etc/hosts and, it's not required, hostname? https://gist.github.com/2186508   the man page only increased my confusion.  I want the free (not real) FQDN of dur.bounceme.net   through no-ip.
[18:49] <KyLE-MaClEoD> how do I joing other channels
[18:49] <Elfe> boroowa: I don't understand, you think your cpu overheats?
[18:49] <ikonia> KyLE-MaClEoD: /join #channel
[18:49] <[[thufir]]> KyLE-MaClEoD: /join #foo
[18:49] <ikonia> nujabes: pretty solid I believe,
[18:49] <gvo> KyLE-MaClEoD: That depends on your irc client to some degree
[18:49] <KyLE-MaClEoD> /join #he
[18:49] <ikonia> KyLE-MaClEoD: so "/join #he"
[18:50] <KyLE-MaClEoD> not working
[18:50] <nujabes> ikonia, thanks
[18:50] <ikonia> KyLE-MaClEoD: it is if you don't put a space between the start of the line and /join
[18:50] <[[thufir]]> KyLE-MaClEoD: works for me.  I'm in #he.  it's empty
[18:50] <gvo> KyLE-MaClEoD: What irc client?
[18:50] <[[thufir]]> lol
[18:51] <Julien> hi
[18:51] <gvo> hola
[18:51] <smw> hola gvo
[18:52] <gvo> smw I was replying to Julien
[18:52] <[[thufir]]> what should the hosts look like for a FQDN?  it looks different from what I see on the google.
[18:52]  * smw realized that after speaking
[18:53] <anthony_> how could i remove my current flavor of xubuntu and get regular ubuntu 64bit under terminal, what would be the proper command
[18:54] <gvo> anthony_: are you running a 64 bit xubuntu now?
[18:54] <anthony_> yes
[18:54] <ikonia> install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[18:54] <nujabes> how do you learn what executable command you have via terminal?
[18:55] <gvo> nujabes ? do you mean what program is run when you select Applications/.../terminal??
[18:55] <smw> nujabes, are you asking how to know what commands you have available?
[18:55] <karamba> members of mayday - save the robots.mp3
[18:56] <nujabes> like i download clamav that runs via terminal, but i don't know all its commands
[18:56] <kaphe> hello, can i restart my ubuntu 10.04 after having manually deleted old initrd.img-VERSION files from /boot?
[18:56] <gvo> man clamav nujabes
[18:56] <anthony_> isnt there a way to just do it with a program or something
[18:57] <anthony_> im having a hard time, i just want plain ubuntu, nothing else
[18:57] <anthony_> 64bit
[18:57] <nujabes> gvo, thanks i've been have this kind of problem with a lot on program with out gui's
[18:57] <gvo> anthony_: Nope, see what ikonia said.
[18:57] <ikonia> anthony_: install "ubuntu-desktop" package
[18:57] <smw> nujabes, you are looking for its "options" or "flags"
[18:57] <smw> nujabes, that is what man pages are for :-)
[18:57] <nujabes> smw, i guess its option. idk what flags are
[18:58] <[[thufir]]> is this ok for a FQDN change to /etc/hosts to effect everything system wide correctly?  https://gist.github.com/2186508
[18:58] <anthony_> no such file or directory ikonia
[18:58] <ikonia> anthony_: there is
[18:58] <nujabes> smw, didn't come with a man page lol
[18:58] <ikonia> anthony_: the package is called "ubuntu-desktop" install it
[18:58] <smw> nujabes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:58] <ikonia> !info ubuntu-desktop
[18:58] <smw> nujabes, clamav -h?
[18:58] <anthony_> what is the command gksudo install doesnt do anything
[18:58]  * karamba slaps anthony_ around a bit with a large trout
[18:58] <smw> anthony_, I can not parse that sentence
[18:59] <ikonia> anthony_: before continuing any further I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com to learn how to do basics such as install packages
[18:59] <ikonia> karamba: please keep the silly actions/comments out of the channel please.
[18:59] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[18:59] <anthony_> amd 64
[18:59] <smw> yellow yellabs-r2
[18:59] <anthony_> is the 64bit version?
[18:59] <ikonia> anthony_: amd 64 ?
[18:59] <ikonia> anthony_: yes
[18:59] <yellabs-r2> is there an tool to view php sites on ubuntu
[19:00] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: web browser ?
[19:00] <nujabes> smw, ok so the command clam or clamav doesn't work after i installed the package clamav. so how can i find the executables?
[19:00] <yellabs-r2> hmm..
[19:00] <gvo> nujabes: dpkg -L clamav
[19:01] <smw> nujabes, dpkg --listfiles clamav
[19:01] <yellabs-r2> web browser does not open .php
[19:01] <smw> ah.. gvo beat me
[19:01] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: yes they do
[19:01] <Caifas> Hello, is there a way to change only root password without change first user password together?
[19:01] <nujabes> gvo, so just list the files and find it that way?
[19:01] <yellabs-r2> well, it promps for gedit
[19:01] <smw> yellabs-r2, you need to have a webserver.
[19:01] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: if you visit a website running php - the browser will open it
[19:01] <escott> !root | Caifas
[19:01] <gvo> nujabes that's what I do
[19:01] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: are you trying to open a local php file ?
[19:01] <yellabs-r2> yes
[19:01] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: ok - then you need a webserver to host it
[19:01] <smw> yellabs-r2, you need to setup a webserver
[19:01] <yellabs-r2> wordpress theme want to preview it
[19:01] <anonymous_> no
[19:02] <nujabes> gvo, so you do that everything you get a package without a gui?
[19:02] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: you can't just prevew that
[19:02] <ikonia> yellabs-r2: you need a proper full wordpress install to see it
[19:02] <gvo> nujabes no, just when I want to see what got installed where.
[19:02] <yellabs-r2> i was hoping i could, but okey, will need to fireup the server then
[19:02] <yellabs-r2> to bad.,..
[19:03] <smw> nujabes, it shows what files are attached to the package. Anything in /usr/bin is probably an executable.
[19:03] <yellabs-r2> ah well ...
[19:03] <yellabs-r2> thats life
[19:03] <nujabes> gvo, so do dpkg look for files with whatever name you give it?
[19:03] <nujabes> or the package?
[19:03] <smw> nujabes, the package
[19:03] <gvo> If it's installed.
[19:03] <yellabs-r2> well thanks for the moral support ...
[19:04] <kaphe> can i restart ubuntu 10.04 without problems after having manually deleted older initrd.img-VERSION files?
[19:04] <yellabs-r2> take care you all !
[19:04] <zykotic10> nujabes: "dpkg -l" is hand to get a list of what's currently installed
[19:04] <smw> kaphe, I would not try that...
[19:04] <gvo> nujabes: do a dpkg -l | grep clamav to see what's installed.
[19:04] <smw> kaphe, the answer is no.
[19:04] <gvo> nujabes: then do a dpkg -L xxx where xxx is the name of the package you want to examin.
[19:04] <nujabes> most things in usr/bin are executable right?
[19:04] <nujabes> thanks that's going to come in handy
[19:05] <escott> kaphe, if its old and you arent booting it then it should be fine, you can also delete them through dpkg by removing the particular old kernel versions
[19:05] <gvo> nujabes: No, most files are elsewhere but the executables are in /usr/bin/ nhormally
[19:05] <kaphe> smw: so what can i do ?
[19:05] <ggolin_> hey guys, is it possible to install oneiric using netboot from http? dont feel like setting dhcp/tftp :/
[19:05] <zykotic10> nujabes: using "echo $PATH" will show where bash is looking for programs
[19:05] <gvo> nujabes  take paticular notice of the file in the .../man/... directory.
[19:06] <gvo> nujabes: that will tell you want man pages are there
[19:06] <smw> kaphe, reinstall the kernel
[19:06] <kaphe> escott: shall i do this in addition?
[19:06] <nujabes> gvo, yeah i noticed that i'm about to check it out.
[19:06] <gvo> I can't spell to day.
[19:06] <escott> kaphe, removing through dpkg would be preferred
[19:06] <zykotic10> kaphe: you should be using apt-get to remove old kernels, not manually
[19:07] <nujabes> lol
[19:07] <gvo> nujabes: if you see man/man1/clambc.1.gz then try man clambc
[19:07] <smw> kaphe, perhaps sudo apt-get --reinstall linux-image-generic
[19:07] <smw> kaphe, assuming that is the kernel you use
[19:07] <smw> kaphe, but it is a meta package... not sure if it would really reinstall.
[19:08] <kaphe> smw: think so but i am quiet sure it were only older versions
[19:08] <smw> kaphe, what?
[19:08] <smw> kaphe, I thought you deleted all your initrds
[19:08] <v0lksman> anyone know how to update alternatives non-interactively?
[19:08] <kaphe> smw: no i kept the one with the highest version number
[19:08] <nujabes> gvo, yeah i see that. so "man" will open a file with the name after it?
[19:08] <v0lksman> IE I want to set vi as the default editor but update-alternatives requires interaction...I just want to script it
[19:09] <smw> kaphe, that was bad, but not a big problem
[19:09] <unda7v7erse> hi people, Ive big issue with my OS, problem with the network drivers : lan wifi bluetooth...I want to reinstall the original configuration, I've the .iso of my distribution mounted on a usb stick, some ideas?
[19:09] <gvo> nujabes:  That's an over simplication, but yes.
[19:09] <kaphe> smw: so restarting would be fine?
[19:09] <zykotic10> v0lksman: update-alternatives is system wide - once per-system would be fine
[19:09] <llutz> v0lksman: update-alternatives --set
[19:09] <smw> kaphe, next time, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-whatever-generic
[19:09] <nujabes> gvo, well for here it save a lot of room the chat lol
[19:10] <smw> kaphe, if you left the one with the highest number, yes
[19:10] <v0lksman> zykotic10: I know but I have many systems... :)
[19:10] <smw> kaphe, but some stuff still needs to be cleaned up
[19:10] <v0lksman> llutz: update-alternatives --set editor vim?
[19:10] <llutz> v0lksman: like that, yes. man update-alternatives
[19:10] <kaphe> smw: you mean trash?
[19:10] <smw> kaphe, I mean you need to uninstall the kernel packages that used those
[19:11] <smw> kaphe, to update grub
[19:12] <|Long|> on 11.10 where you turn on vnc remote client?
[19:12] <kaphe> smw: i was allready searching for them but found it a bit challinging with so many different versions
[19:13] <kaphe> smw: is it ok if i only keep the highest version too?
[19:14] <smw> kaphe, keeping only the highest kernel version is fine
[19:14] <Oer> kaphe, you must keep the highest (current) + 1 before that ( used to boot recovery )
[19:14] <smw> kaphe, the reason multiple ones are kept is because we learn from experience. A long time ago a kernel update (I think from debian) bricked computers ;-
[19:14] <smw> ;-)
[19:15] <Oer> kaphe, it will give you an error anyway
[19:15] <smw> kaphe, now they keep old ones in case new ones have errors
[19:15] <kaphe> oer: what kind of eror?
[19:15] <escott> kaphe, failure to boot or just bad hardware support
[19:15] <nujabes> smw, if i wanted to write a script so i don't have to run a program via terminal everytime. do i just write the bash script in a txt and save it?
[19:16] <_Marcus> nujabes: Start the first line with #!/bin/bash
[19:16] <escott> nujabes, use a shebang #!/bin/bash and chmod +x the file
[19:16] <_Marcus> nujabes: Then save it as whatever, but have .sh at the end. Then chmod +x it like escott said
[19:16] <smw> nujabes, everyone else pretty much answered :-)
[19:16] <Cache_Money> I'll buy someone a beer if they can help me with this problem: I have a new laptop with a 'Silent Mode' function - on Windows it shuts down the fan unless it's needed.  But it doesn't work on Ubuntu and the fan runs all the time.  How can I fix this?
[19:17] <kaphe> escott: you mean this is certain in my case?
[19:17] <nujabes> smw, lol
[19:17] <nujabes> so that will let me run the clamscan?
[19:17] <nujabes> once i save it
[19:17] <Cache_Money> I think I found a similar bug issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/samsung-tools/+bug/884686  And I have this laptop
[19:18] <Cache_Money> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+15.6%22+Series+7+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Silver/4708803.p?id=1218512740623&skuId=4708803&st=samsung%20laptop&cp=1&lp=5
[19:18] <smw> nujabes, read a blog post. Use google ;-)
[19:19] <nujabes> smw, okay okay
[19:19] <smw> nujabes, ask a question here after showing that you at least did a cursory google search ;-)
[19:19] <_Marcus> smw: If you aren't here to help, don't talk. Everything here can be looked up online. If everyone did that, this wouldn't be a support channel
[19:20] <istiaque> Hi,I am new user in ubntu ,so how i install ubntu theme?Please help me.
[19:20] <smw> nujabes, _Marcus I have been helping him. But now he is asking questions that are better answered by google. If he has issues finding information or understanding it, I would gladly answer his questions.
[19:21] <nujabes> hey i totally understand i agree with smw
[19:22] <robertzaccour> I found a bug I'm tryin to get around
[19:22] <Cache_Money> smw:  can you help me with my problem?  I did a Google search but I don't understand how to implement the solution
[19:22] <smw> Cache_Money, depends on the question
[19:22] <robertzaccour> I plugged my laptop into my pc and it doesn't display correctly. it does when I go into the display options but it shows the fullscreen on the tv and the audio stays on the laptop
[19:22] <escott> kaphe, maybe
[19:22] <robertzaccour> any suggestions?
[19:23] <Cache_Money> smw:  I have a new laptop with a 'Silent Mode' function - on Windows it shuts down the fan unless it's needed.  But it doesn't work on Ubuntu and the fan runs all the time.  How can I fix this?
[19:23] <Cache_Money> smw:  I think I found a description of the bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/samsung-tools/+bug/884686
[19:23] <smw> Cache_Money, yep, not my area of expertise ;-)
[19:23] <ikonia> Cache_Money: probably won't be able to fix it
[19:23] <robertzaccour> Is this distro specific or would I be wasting my time trying other distros to see if this issue still arises?
[19:24] <ikonia> robertzaccour: are you using hdmi ?
[19:24] <kaphe> escott: at least uninstalling the images with synaptic was fine
[19:24] <Cache_Money> ikonia:  why?  it looks like other people using Samsung were having trouble accessing other function buttons..
[19:24] <smw> nujabes, I need to go. Good luck :-)
[19:24] <robertzaccour> ikonia, yes, and it works perfectly in Windows
[19:24] <nujabes> smw, hey thanks man
[19:25] <nujabes> you've been a lot of help
[19:25] <ikonia> Cache_Money: so because other people are having the same problem you think it can be fixed ?
[19:25] <nujabes> and everyone else lol
[19:25] <robertzaccour> ikonia, do you know if this issue is distro specific?
[19:25] <ikonia> robertzaccour: won't be distro specific
[19:25] <istiaque> Can anybody help me? I need some ubuntu theme,& how can i install it?
[19:25] <robertzaccour> ikonia, is there a fix?
[19:25] <ikonia> robertzaccour: probably just need to set the output in alsamixer to go down hdmi,
[19:25] <escott> kaphe, in general you should always do things through dpkg/apt/synaptic rather than using "sudo rm"
[19:25] <robertzaccour> ikonia, do you know how?
[19:25] <gvo> robertzaccour: are you using hdmi ?
[19:26] <ikonia> robertzaccour: have a look in alsamixer
[19:26] <robertzaccour> gvo, not at the moment but I can plug it in and try.
[19:26] <Cache_Money> ikonia:  Someone posted a samsung-tools package to fix the problem  https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/archive/+packages  I'm just too much a a noob to figure out if it's helpful in my specific situation
[19:26] <gvo> VGA?
[19:26] <robertzaccour> ikonia, ok thanks, brb
[19:26] <ikonia> Cache_Money: try it then
[19:27] <gvo> ikonia: Am I wrong in thinking that only hdmi has audio too?
[19:27] <StepNjump> hi guys, how do I know if I have a firewall installed on my ubuntu workstation?
[19:27] <Cache_Money> ikonia:  I don't understand how.. that's why I'm here :/
[19:27] <tone_> can anybody tell me why the top bar of my windows has disappeared
[19:27] <ikonia> gvo: no you're correct
[19:27] <ikonia> Cache_Money: try the package see it improves your issue
[19:27] <gvo> StepNjump: iptables-list might help.
[19:28] <jack_sparrow> !firewall
[19:28] <gvo> ikonia: so if he's not using the hdmi, then he's not going to have audio.
[19:28] <ikonia> gvo: he said he was using hdmi when I asked
[19:28] <gvo> ikonia: He told me he wasn't.
[19:28] <gvo> :)
[19:28] <tone_> file:///home/tone/Desktop/desktop.png
[19:28] <ikonia> gvo: ????
[19:28] <tone_> can anybody help me with that
[19:28] <tenbill> I can't run ubuntu 12.04 on my acer At751H from a usb key,it's  a graphic card issue,any idea?tnx
[19:29] <tone_> its notice how the tops of my windows has disappeared
[19:29] <gvo> ikonia I quote:  robertzaccour	gvo, not at the moment but I can plug it in and try.
[19:29] <kaphe> tone: are you using compiz?
[19:29] <ikonia> gvo: ok, so he is using hdmi - just not at this moment while talking to us
[19:29] <gvo> I guess.
[19:29] <tenbill>  4tone_:you must restart your x.org
[19:29] <Aster> Anyone feel like helping me install this external step-by-step on Ubuntu? I've been trying all day to no avail. This is what I need: http://glsdk.sourceforge.net/docs/html/index.html
[19:30] <tone_> ah, well i have the span setup now
[19:30] <tone_> how do i restart xorg?
[19:30] <tenbill> reboot it-s better
[19:30] <tone_> k
[19:30] <thewanderer1> hi. is Gadu-Gadu broken today for anyone else on any communicator?
[19:32] <gvo> Aster how far have you gotten?
[19:32] <lonix> Whats the goto dhcp server now adays ?
[19:32] <ikonia> dhcp-server
[19:32] <ikonia> (product name)
[19:33] <KapnWilly> What is a good device manager for ubuntu 11.10? I have a video output card to go to my TV, and I need to get ubuntu to recognize it and install drivers.
[19:34] <tone_> well i restarted the computer and still no top on my windows
[19:34] <tone_> :(
[19:34] <tone_> and the span view is now cloned again
[19:35] <robertzaccour> ikonia, I'm back
[19:36] <kaphe> tone: try switching settings under "Appearance Peferences/Visual Effects"
[19:36] <robertzaccour> only problem now is full 1080p cuts off part of the outer edges of the screen so I'd have to lower the resolution to see the top panel and the Unity menu properly. I think Gnome 3 would be a better option. I'm gonna google how to install gnome 3 and remove unity brb
[19:38] <kpow> any1 has any experience with shorter battery time on laptop with kernel 3.x compared to 2.6?
[19:38] <__Alex_> kpow: Your battery is dieing out.
[19:39] <jack_sparrow> __Alex_, that is quite an assumption on your part
[19:40] <kpow> 2.6 uses around 1200mA and 3.x uses around 1500mA
[19:40] <the> anyone here?
[19:40] <Aster> gvo: I've built the libraries.
[19:41] <the> Anyone know if Ubuntu will work good with my Sony Vaio E-series laptop?
[19:41] <__Alex_> the: Propably, try it out. I see no problem why not
[19:42] <jack_sparrow> the it hates my older vaio, easy enough to try out
[19:42] <tone_> can anybody help me get the tops of my windows back , it would be much appreciated
[19:42] <mirko1> tone_: do you use compiz? what Ubuntu version?
[19:43] <gubbachops_> how do i get debian ?
[19:43] <tone_> im using xfce desktop enviornment
[19:43] <tone_> xubuntu
[19:43] <tone_> the new 64 bit one
[19:43] <kpow> gubbachops_, #debian
[19:43] <robertzaccour> tone any changes lately?
[19:44] <gubbachops_> do i type that in terminal or google?
[19:44] <pat123> the - i would just try the live cd if that work then u have your answer
[19:44] <jack_sparrow> gubbachops_, here
[19:44] <the> ahh ok
[19:44] <the> is there specific installers for laptops?
[19:44] <jack_sparrow> no
[19:44] <the> or its the same for desktops and laptops
[19:44] <gubbachops_> they sent me here
[19:44] <tone_> yeah last night, i was messing around with it for like 3 hours to get my ati catalyst to take the span view
[19:44] <pat123> no its the same my acer works fine
[19:45] <the> ah ok
[19:45] <tone_> the span finally works, and now my windows are missing the top part of the bar
[19:45] <tone_> i have a screeny of it
[19:45] <__Alex_> tone_: Something's wrong with xfwm4
[19:45] <the> thanks for info
[19:45] <belphegorr> hi
[19:45] <pat123> :-)
[19:45] <alexim> in past linuxes, i've been able to do "kill %1" to kill bash job 1....ubuntu doesn't seem to do the same, is there an analogue?
[19:46] <gubbachops_> #debian
[19:46] <gubbachops_> ah ha
[19:46] <tone_> whats xfwm4 __Alex_
[19:46] <escott> alexim, works fine here
[19:46] <jack_sparrow> gubbachops_, /join #debian
[19:46] <kpow> gubbachops_, they probably sent you here bcuz ubuntu is more user-friendly to beginners
[19:47] <noob_> Is there a major diffrence from 64bit and 32 bit?
[19:47] <noob_> because i can run 64 but it recommends 32
[19:47] <kpow> how much memory u got?
[19:47] <blendedbychris> why is it my sources.list keeps getting reverted?
[19:47] <noob_> 4gb ram
[19:47] <escott> noob_, go ahead and run 64bit then
[19:47] <gubbachops_> i know they brainy buggers
[19:48] <tone_> somebody pleaes help me fix this i cant see my windows man
[19:48] <tone_> or the top of the window
[19:48] <__Alex_> noob_: No, it's just that not all apps are ported to Ubuntu amd64. No big deal, you can run 32bit ones with linux32
[19:48] <tone_> for example, when i open terminal it appears in top left hand portion of the screen, and i can't move it cuz there is not a bar on top anymore
[19:48] <noob_> alright ales thanks for info
[19:48] <sikilpaake> how can i disable my had intel card?
[19:49] <noob_> alex*
[19:49] <istiaque> hi anybody help me how can more theme install in ubuntu?
[19:49] <mirko1> tone_: hit  ALT-F2, enter "xfwm4 --daemon --replace" without he quotes. does that help?
[19:49] <sikilpaake> how can i disable my *hda intel card?
[19:49] <escott> sikilpaake, blacklist the module
[19:49] <__Alex_> sikilpaake: Blacklist it?
[19:49] <tone_> his that a space
[19:50] <tone_> mirkol
[19:50] <__Alex_> sikilpaake: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[19:50] <sikilpaake> escott: yes, that's fabulous, but how do i blacklist it, then?
[19:50] <sikilpaake> __Alex_: oh, werd, thanks
[19:50] <mirko1> tone_:  don't understand
[19:51] <tone_> woot
[19:51] <tone_> mirkol
[19:51] <tone_> ur a genios
[19:51] <sikilpaake> __Alex_: its already blaclisted, but somehow i temporarily enabled it last night, how can i disable it again without rebooting?
[19:51] <sikilpaake> __Alex_: *blacklisted
[19:51] <escott> sikilpaake, rmmod the module
[19:51] <sikilpaake> escott: how?
[19:52] <gvo> man rmnod
[19:52] <__Alex_> sikilpaake: sudo modprobe -r modname
[19:52] <gvo> That too
[19:52] <escott> sikilpaake, sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel
[19:52] <sikilpaake> escott: werd, let me try that
[19:52] <MrHanjrah> or, rmmod modulename
[19:53] <mirko1> tone_: good, now close all windows, open the session settings and save the sesssion, otherwise the problem might be there again if you reboot
[19:55] <karamba> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXJbJeRxHo
[19:56] <sikilpaake> escott: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel:  "ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use" ..what gives?
[19:57] <escott> sikilpaake, its in use, you need to remove the modules that depend on it
[19:57] <MrHanjrah> karamba: ahhahah wtf
[19:57] <sikilpaake> escott: how can i figure that out?
[19:57] <escott> sikilpaake, lsmod
[19:57] <khat> hi all
[19:57] <tone_> mirkol, you solved my problem, thank you so much, but how the hell did you know how to do that?
[19:58] <MrHanjrah> tone_: experience :)
[19:58] <khat> any way to block all sites and allow only selected ones?
[19:58] <khat> currently blocked a lot in the hosts file, but it's kinda tedious
[19:58] <MrHanjrah> khat: /etc/hosts
[19:58] <blendedbychris> karamba: whoever comes up with that crap is messed up in the head
[19:58] <mirko1> tone_: right, comes with the time ;-)
[19:59] <tone_> damn mirkol, that was elite
[19:59] <tone_> thanks alot man
[19:59] <tone_> :D
[19:59] <escott> khat, you can setup an iptables to deny all traffic not through a proxy and then put your whitelist in the proxy
[19:59] <jack_sparrow> khat, are you wanting to block sites from your browser?  I had a good one for firefox in adons
[20:00] <khat> setup is a standalone laptop that an elderly person is to use for email and watching video on ustream
[20:00] <khat> someone else keeps going on all manner of sites (pr0n included)
[20:00] <khat> I blocked a helluva lot
[20:01] <khat> but want to just deny all and allow only gmail and ustream
[20:01] <jack_sparrow> khat,  which browser?
[20:01] <sikilpaake> escott: it says snd_hda_intel is is use by "2" ..who the heck is "2"?
[20:01] <khat> FF is the browser
[20:01] <khat> if I had a server setup I could block it with either a proxy or something like ipcop/pfsense/etc.......
[20:01] <khat> but I don't
[20:01] <sikilpaake> escott: is this "process 2"? is "2" the pid?
[20:01] <escott> sikilpaake, two characters to the right is your answer
[20:01] <jack_sparrow> sikilpaake, are you having trouble with video or sound, snd-hda is hidef sound
[20:02] <mmarc__> hello! Question: is there a fast way to find out which configure script options are used to build the gcc on ubuntu 11.10? TIA!
[20:02] <sikilpaake> escott: there is nothing two characters to the right
[20:02] <ikonia> mmarc__: lookin the package source file
[20:02] <escott> khat, keep in mind that physical access is root access, they can always just use their own livecd
[20:02] <Fodi69> hi, I have a strange bug, which logs me out without any visible reason, my unsaved changes are gone, and I have to log in again. how can I investigate, what is the error and/or which package generates it?
[20:02] <ikonia> mmarc__: why do you need the options ?
[20:02] <jack_sparrow> khat look at ff addons, they work great at my office
[20:02] <sikilpaake> escott: http://pastebin.com/pibeKvMF
[20:03] <mmarc__> konia: I'm build my own compiler variation and need to know what option to use to set the proper search paths for crti.o and crt1.o
[20:03] <escott> sikilpaake, ok hmmm not sure then usually the other modules that depend upon it appear there
[20:03] <sikilpaake> escott: could it be process 2?
[20:03] <mmarc__> ikonia: I'm build my own compiler variation and need to know what option to use to set the proper search paths for crti.o and crt1.o
[20:03] <ikonia> mmarc__: are you aware of the pitfalls and issues that can be caused by having your own compiler on the same machine as the ubuntu one ?
[20:03] <MrHanjrah> khat: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/181805-blocking-all-but-1-2-websites.html and http://forums.techguy.org/web-email/937208-solved-block-all-sites-except.html and http://techlaze.com/2011/10/block-all-websites-whitelist/ and http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/how-to-block-all-websites-except-2-a-667350/ and....oh well the list goes one :)
[20:03] <mithrop> hi here
[20:03] <escott> sikilpaake, no it means that two things are using it. not sure what those two things could be if they aren't modules
[20:04] <mmarc__> ikonia: I'm not using ubuntu one
[20:04] <sikilpaake> escott: programs?
[20:04] <sikilpaake> escott: i'm closing ff
[20:04] <MrHanjrah> s/one/on
[20:04] <khat> blocked near 100 so far
[20:04] <escott> sikilpaake, it might be counting open file descriptors on devices created by that moduel
[20:04] <jack_sparrow> khat most routers as well are easy to setup for that
[20:04] <ikonia> mmarc__: so why do you need the ubuntu compile options ?
[20:04] <sikilpaake> escott: f*** it, i'm rebooting
[20:04] <ikonia> sikilpaake: no need for that language
[20:05] <escott> sikilpaake, that was the correct answer :) figured you would get there eventually
[20:05] <sikilpaake> ikonia: i'm not allowed to say "frop"?
[20:05] <mmarc__> ikonia: I'd like to look how search paths are specified there and study from it. Could you please be more specific about looking into the source? I did apt-get source gcc, but no configure options are in there... As far as I can see.
[20:05] <ikonia> sikilpaake: look - you know that's not what you where saying, that's why you starred it out, please don't do it in future
[20:05] <sikilpaake> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frop
[20:05] <Fodi69> hi, I have a strange bug, which logs me out without any visible reason, my unsaved changes are gone, and I have to log in again. how can I investigate, what is the error and/or which package generates it?
[20:05] <sikilpaake> ikonia: gotcha ;) my bad
[20:05] <ikonia> mmarc__: they are in the control file
[20:06] <MrHanjrah> damnnn the F word is strictly prohibited here, although everyone use it in real life :P
[20:06] <ikonia> MrHanjrah: enough
[20:06] <jack_sparrow> not everyone
[20:06] <sikilpaake> escott: lol
[20:06] <sikilpaake> escott: yeah, its easier
[20:06] <MrHanjrah> ikonia: oopsie daisies, sorry
[20:07] <mmarc__> ikonia: this is not right, control files only contain descriptions. I think discussion is getting longer than I expect, you probably don't know exactly. Thanks, I'll search elsewhere.
[20:08] <ikonia> mmarc__: it should reference the options,
[20:08] <khat> thanks for the help all - will be back if I need more
[20:09] <rammyIRC> wat is the web server i can install
[20:10] <bastidrazor> rammyIRC: apache2
[20:11] <rammyIRC>  bastidrazor thx
[20:11] <madsj> how can I enable the logout button in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:11] <tone_> what is the command to scroll through the workspaces
[20:11] <tone_> the keyboard shortcut
[20:11] <madsj> it's not there, and google did not provide me with any useful help
[20:12] <rammyIRC> clicking alt
[20:13] <bastidrazor> tone_: ctrl alt arrow keys
[20:13] <nasa01> Hi, I am trying to package some software using dpkg-buildpackage.  I am getting the following error, "dpkg-buildpackage error: unable to determine source changed by".
[20:13] <__Alex_> tone_:CTRL+ALT+LEFT and CTRL+ALT+RIGHT iirc
[20:13] <tone_> thanks guys
[20:14] <nasa01> I assume this is a problem with my changelog file -- what in it should I be looking at?
[20:18] <Xabster> help a newbie out and tell me how I go to my mounted hard drive in filezilla?
[20:18] <katsrc> hey, whats the least system requirement for Ubuntu Pangolin?
[20:18] <Xabster> like, what folder on my filesystem corresponds to my mounted drive?
[20:18] <dubey> hello
[20:18] <xangua> katsrc: for pangolin go to #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <escott> Xabster, if you mounted a usb device or another non-standard volume you should find it in /media
[20:20] <cryptotheslow> Xabster, the >  mount  -l  < command will you what device is mounted where
[20:21] <khat> next question all - any way to pull log files from mikrotik, pfsense and ubiquiti?
[20:21] <khat> like get them all in a central location?
[20:21] <maxflax> hi, I wonder a little about wireless drivers.. I have turned on the STA driver but I don
[20:21] <weox> hello .. i download a executable file with .run format but i dont know how execute that file ,, when i double click on that , gedit open that , what should i do?
[20:21] <maxflax> hi, I wonder a little about wireless drivers.. I have turned on the STA driver but I dont think it´s using it
[20:22] <maxflax> lshw gives me driver=brcmsmac
[20:23] <ryjyd_> here's a wild question: how do I access hard drive firmware to make changes? Yes, I know the dangers and the risks, but if I have a program, that's usually a good pointer to a forum where I can educate myself
[20:23] <khat> @ weox - can't find a DEB file for what you want to install?
[20:24] <escott> ryjyd_, hdparm?
[20:24] <__Alex_> weox: In terminal. type: chmod +x filename.run
[20:24] <__Alex_> weox: And then: ./filename.run
[20:25] <chanko> HOLA
[20:25] <efraimmarcatto> hi
[20:26] <ryjyd_> escott, I think that might be it. reading now. thanks for the help
[20:26] <chanko> algun español
[20:26] <khat> I'm out all - thanks for all the help
[20:26] <chanko> ?
[20:26]  * khat bows and thanks all
[20:26] <LjL> !es | chanko
[20:32] <maxflax> My Broadcom STA driver isn't getting loaded eveb thou the restricted drivers says its up and running
[20:35] <pickelsss> How do I find all the file in a directory with a certain name? I can find all the directories by doing: find ./ -type d -name "specs" But I need to files in those dirs.
[20:35] <llutz> pickelsss: find ./ -type d -name "specs" |xargs ls -l
[20:36] <maxflax> whats the name of the broadcom wifi modules?
[20:37] <pickelsss> llutz, that also returns all the directories in those directories. Think I am more looking for something like: find ./ -type d -name "specs" | xargs find -name '*.coffee'
[20:39] <mirko1> pickelsss: find -type d -name "specs" | xargs -IDIR find DIR -type f
[20:40] <TheCyberShocker> Hey, was wondering if someone can help me, trying to mount my NTFS external hard drive to my Ubuntu Server, I get this message when I type sudo mount -a :)
[20:40] <TheCyberShocker> http://pastebin.com/1bFeGdVZ
[20:40] <mike> i need help
[20:40] <pickelsss> mirko1, that seems to work. Thanks man.
[20:41] <Guest14310> i need help
[20:41] <mirko1> TheCyberShocker: /dev/sdb is the whole physical disk, you need to give the partition number like /dev/sdb1
[20:41] <TheCyberShocker> Tried that also, but it says the directory is not found.
[20:41] <jack_sparrow> TheCyberShocker, each partition has a mount point
[20:42] <MrHanjrah> TheCyberShocker: plug out the device, plug it in again and do: dmesg | tail in terminal
[20:42] <TheCyberShocker> Ok one moment, it's 3 floors above me.
[20:43] <MrHanjrah> TheCyberShocker: ssh into it
[20:43] <blaustift> hi
[20:43] <ssfdre38> Guest14310, just say what you need help with
[20:43] <blaustift> Why can't I resize a window with mouse via Alt-Rightmouseclick + movement?! do I need to turn some special stuff on? (does that depend on unity2D/3D?)
[20:44] <TheCyberShocker> Yeh I am, but I meant the external HDD was not near me ;)
[20:44] <Jordan_U> TheCyberShocker: Please also pastebin your /etc/fstab.
[20:44] <Guest14310> i have an aasus eee pc surf model and it has a generic version of ubuntu 8.10 how do i upgrade
[20:44] <MrHanjrah> TheCyberShocker: and yes, what Jordan_U said :) would also help
[20:44] <ssfdre38> Guest14310, sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:44] <jack_sparrow> Guest14310, from 8 I would do a fresh install of 10.04
[20:45] <TheCyberShocker> http://pastebin.com/9cqpngxh
[20:45] <MrHanjrah> TheCyberShocker: its /dev/sdb5
[20:45] <TheCyberShocker> Ignore the "# /etc/fstab from command line:" it's just there to split the two commands up
[20:45] <research4oscar> I installed ununtu on an old old system, and just got ubuntu desktop working. If I want to setup my machine so that I can ftp into it. do i need to configure my wireless router or my ubuntu installation?
[20:46] <TheCyberShocker> Oh LOL ok let me try that
[20:46] <Guest14310> it says something about repositories
[20:46] <MrHanjrah> TheCyberShocker: sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/whatever/is/in/there
[20:46] <mirko1> TheCyberShocker: so sdb into sdb5 in fstab,a nd make sure /media/external exists
[20:46] <ssfdre38> research4oscar, did you install an FTP Deamon yet?
[20:46] <escott> TheCyberShocker, you probably dont want defaults on an ntfs-3g
[20:46] <escott> TheCyberShocker, at a minimum you want noexec,nosuid
[20:47] <TheCyberShocker> Oh ok, just followed a guide to tell me to use defaults or something. :) but yes it's mounted now, so that all worked.
[20:47] <research4oscar> is that the same as ope ssh server?
[20:48] <TheCyberShocker> Well looks like not all the files are there, oddly.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> TheCyberShocker: Device names can change, what is now "sdb" could be "sdc" another day. You should use UUIDs in your /etc/fstab
[20:48] <TheCyberShocker> How would I go about doing that Jordan_U? Still pretty new at this stuff.
[20:48] <jack_sparrow> !uuid
[20:49] <research4oscar> I ask because under the software to install i have basic ubuntu server, openssh server, lamp, ubuntu desktop.
[20:49] <mirko1> Jordan_U, TheCyberShocker: my personal opinion: use labels instead of UUIDs
[20:49] <ssfdre38> research4oscar, no just eater use pure-ftpd or proftpd and its apt-get install pure-ftpd or apt-get install proftpd
[20:49] <Jordan_U> !fstab | TheCyberShocker
[20:49] <maxflax>  What module name should I be looking for if I want to see if my broadcom wifi Prop is loaded? my card is a BCM43224
[20:49] <research4oscar> okay will do that now.
[20:49] <jack_sparrow> !bcm
[20:50] <Guest14310> i have an aasus eee pc surf model and it has a generic version of ubuntu 8.10 how do i upgrade
[20:50] <whoever> hi all is there a regex tester out there for the desktop ? kiki faild when i ran a test with a lazy operater
[20:50] <TheCyberShocker> My brain hurts xD
[20:50] <ssfdre38> Guest14310, as stated before it would just be better to do a fresh isntall and maybe the only way
[20:51] <ssfdre38> aden welcome to my world
[20:51] <Guest14310> how
[20:51] <xee> Hi, I would like to ask about an affordable internal sound card that provides better quality than built-in HD Audio and works well with linux
[20:51] <TheCyberShocker> Ha dan ;)
[20:51] <jack_sparrow> Guest14310, from 8 I would do a fresh install of 10.04
[20:51] <Guest14310> how
[20:51] <jack_sparrow> Guest14310, get a fresh cd
[20:51] <Jordan_U> whoever: What type of regex are you trying to test? While some syntax is common to all regular expression engines not all is.
[20:51] <Guest14310> i dont have a disk drive
[20:51] <ssfdre38> Guest14310, use a sd card to do it or a usb drive
[20:52] <jonnyXer0> soo does anyone have problems with transmission running at a crawl?
[20:52] <Guest14310> dont have that either
[20:52] <spacebug-> Guest14310: or wait a month for 12.04 LTS
[20:52] <Guest14310> huh?
[20:53] <whoever> Jordan_U: here is the line that faild in kiki \\s{2,10}.*?(?=\\s\\s|$ , its java  for the platform
[20:53] <mirko1> Guest14310:  without any drive, your best chance ist to upgrade tp 10.04 by opening a terminal window and run "sudo do-release-upgrade" (without the quotes).
[20:54] <Jordan_U> !eol | Guest14310 mirko1
[20:55] <jonnyXer0> What are you guys running for bittorrent, it is how i normally get distro's but transmission is not cooperating lol
[20:55] <mirko1> Jordan_U: 8.04 to 10.04 shoudl still be possible, no?
[20:56] <Oer> mirko1, yes, lts to lts
[20:56] <Guest14310> it says Failed Upgrade tool signature
[20:56] <Guest14310> Failed Upgrade tool
[20:56] <Guest14310> Done downloading
[20:56] <Guest14310> extracting 'jaunty.tar.gz'
[20:56] <Guest14310> Failed to extract
[20:56] <FloodBot1> Guest14310: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <Guest14310> Extracting the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> mirko1: Guest14310 currently has Ubuntu 8.10.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Guest14310
[20:57] <mirko1> Jordan_U: ouch! misreaded. nevermind.
[20:57] <Guest14310> what do i do not
[20:57] <Guest14310> now
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Guest14310: Can you borrow a flash drive? A fresh install is really the easiest solution if at all possible?
[20:58] <ssfdre38> Guest14310, you used more then 1 one to express your question on here and started to flood the channel
[20:58] <cespare> What's a reliable way to test a linux machine to see if it's Ubuntu? I've been looking at /etc/issue, but I'm not sure how much I can count on that
[20:58] <Guest14310> umm ok
[20:58] <ssfdre38> hey is there a php5-ftp install i can get for my php system from the distros
[20:58] <mirko1> cespare: lsb_release -a
[20:59] <jonnyXer0> or uname -a
[21:00] <mirko1> jonnyXer0: no, there's no quarantie that the kernel name contains *-Ubuntu
[21:00] <TheCyberShocker> Well thanks for your help all! :)
[21:00] <FAT_INDIAN> hello queers
[21:01] <SilverLion> FAT_INDIAN, hi there
[21:01] <FAT_INDIAN> HOW IS EVRYONE
[21:01] <FAT_INDIAN> tonight
[21:01] <FAT_INDIAN> on this lovely evenig
[21:01] <jonnyXer0> ah did not know that mirko i must be sheltered ;p
[21:04] <torpe> @archivebot: hi
[21:04] <cespare> mirko1: thanks
[21:06] <jonnyXer0> so total noob question
[21:06] <jonnyXer0> how do you do the "break" symbol
[21:06] <szal> ?
[21:07] <jonnyXer0> vertical line
[21:07] <jonnyXer0> i usually c/p it lol
[21:08] <Jordan_U> jonnyXer0: On a US English keyboard it's shift+ the key containing '\'.
[21:08] <szal> usually you have a key to the left of the z (or y, on QWERTZ keyboards), you press right Alt (or AltGr) plus that key & voilà
[21:08] <mirko1> jonnyXer0: it's called the pipe symbol, and how to enter depends on your keyboard layout
[21:09] <elspuddy> hi, im trying to install vnc on my ubuntu box trouble is when i try to vnc into my box it shows me my back ground pic but i got no bar at the top nore the dock thing on the left of the screen , my desktop rez is 1920x1080  same for my vnc settings ,
[21:09] <rocky_> hey guys im having a bit of a strange issue. i just installed the latst verson of ubuntu server, and im trying to install webmin. when i tried to install the dependancys i type "sudo aptitude install perl libnet-ssleay-perl openssl libauthen-pam-perl libpam-runtime libio-pty-perl libmd5-perl" and it says it cant find none of the packages
[21:09] <jonnyXer0> standard us qwerty but now i know its real name i can google ;p
[21:09] <jonnyXer0> tyvm
[21:11] <Jordan_U> !webmin | rocky_
[21:12] <jonnyXer0> got it, thanks guys
[21:12] <jonnyXer0> that will save me alot of time
[21:13] <sburwood1> Same question in the Ubuntu room as in the archos room .... aka I've an Archos tablet connected via usb port.  Not recognized and not mounted
[21:14] <rocky_> jordan_U ok thats good to know but i still cant install perl, it says it cant find the packages
[21:15] <Jordan_U> rocky_: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo aptitude install perl"?
[21:17] <Imagus> Hey
[21:17] <Imagus> I need help with Ubuntu 11.10, I cannot get my run dialog to pop up
[21:19] <rocky_> !pastebin
[21:19] <rocky_> jordan_U how do i pastebin ?
[21:19] <MrHanjrah> rocky_: use sprunge instead, www.sprunge.us
[21:19] <rocky_> mrhanjrah wrong site bro
[21:19] <imagus> Sorry I had disconnected. Any help on my problem.
[21:19] <MrHanjrah> http://sprunge.us/
[21:19] <MrHanjrah> ??
[21:20] <sburwood1> imagus: Didn't see your problem.  I've a problem with connecting an Archos tablet to my desktop computer running 11.10
[21:20] <imagus> I cant get my "run" screen to pop up.
[21:21] <sburwood1> imagus: Is something running that seems to have frozen?
[21:21] <imagus> nope nothing that is visible.
[21:22] <sburwood1> imagus: What were you doing just before and when the "run" menu stopped responding?
[21:22] <imagus> It didnt stop responding, I cant get it to start.
[21:24] <sburwood1> imagus: I am a sort of newbie at this, so I don't know what help I can be, but what version of Ubuntu are you running?  Or is it Windows that is giving you problems?
[21:24] <imagus> Ubuntu 11.10
[21:24] <i1> Hi,
[21:24] <mirko1> imagus: can't help with that unity stuff, but see http://askubuntu.com/questions/99679/cant-get-the-gnome-run-dialog-running-with-unity-on-11-10
[21:24] <Prabz> ubottu, !ask il
[21:25] <sburwood1> imagus: So you are running, like me, unity with the menu on the left side?
[21:25] <imagus> Yes.
[21:25] <caB00T> When I press ctrl+alt+1 to get the console, I get a small blue screen with vertical lines and uncomprehensable stuff, but not a crash, what's up with that? :)
[21:25] <rocky_> jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/898401/
[21:25] <caB00T> * ctrl+alt+F1 that is, sorry
[21:25] <Prabz> ubottu, !help il
[21:26] <Prabz> lol
[21:26] <i1> How Would You Be Able To Access The Themes Directory Folder, I've Recently Found It Where It Had Showed All Themes But Whenever I Try To Copy A Gnome Shell Theme Folder That Has Already Been Extracted It Gives Me An Error
[21:26] <Jordan_U> rocky_: OK. It looks like perl is installed fine then.
[21:26] <Prabz> il what kind of error
[21:26] <Frozen_byte> Hey anyone there? Ive got a strange problem with my hdd detection...
[21:26] <Prabz> i1, what kind of error
[21:26] <i1> That I Don't Have Permission To Be Copying That Folder Onto It. Yet I'm The Admin
[21:27] <i1> Or Something Similar To That
[21:27] <gandhijee_> hey, who can point me to good directions on getting a second monitor working with ubuntu 10.04 with hybrid graphics. its a dell L502x
[21:27] <Prabz> i1, well, try running your filebrowser in super user mode
[21:27] <khem_> anyone here have epxiernece with Samba under Ubuntu? I want to know if shares for logged in users are enabled by default (their homedirs), and how to create a share for a group of users to a specific folder?
[21:28] <mirko1> i1, or use the per-user theme directory $HOME/.theme
[21:28] <Prabz> i1, it won't let you copy to that folder... /usr/share
[21:28] <i1> Prabz How Would I Do That Again Not Very Experienced With Ubuntu 11.10
[21:28] <nujabes> I'm having a problem with ecryptfsd it made two private folder
[21:28] <research4oscar> I am trying to setup my ubuntu installation to be able to transfer files from the internet. I installed lamp and pure-ftpd.
[21:28] <i1> Yes Prabz
[21:28] <Prabz> i1, just copy to /home/<username>/.theme
[21:29] <research4oscar> what else might i need to configure on my ubuntu machine.  I am using a netgear router
[21:29] <mirko1> i1: .themes (sorry missed the s)
[21:29] <sburwood1> Do I need something specific to get my Ubuntu desktop to connect via usb with my Archos (Android) tablet??
[21:29] <rocky_> jordan_U ok what about this though http://paste.ubuntu.com/898405/
[21:29] <i1> I've Extracted The File To See The Folder But Whenever I Have To Copy It Doesn't Seem To Work.
[21:29] <Prabz> research4oscar, what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:30] <Prabz> i1, that's because you don't have permission for writing to the filesystem outside your home directory
[21:30] <i1> Okay, But How Would You Be Able To Then?
[21:30] <Frozen_byte> exit
[21:31] <research4oscar> i want to run a small website from my ubuntu installation.
[21:31] <research4oscar> I already have some files i would like to move.
[21:31] <research4oscar> from my laptop on to my new ubuntu/lamp installation.
[21:32] <Prabz> i1, you could use ".themes" folder in home folder itself. If you're in nautilus, press Ctrl+H to see it
[21:32] <mirko1> i1: by executing the extraction program (file-roller?) as root (the super user), but if you only want to install the theme for you, not for all users, just extract it into the directory /home/YOUR_USER_NAME/.themes
[21:32] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: what help do you need?
[21:32] <research4oscar> I also installed ubuntu desktop.
[21:32] <gantry> I think I need to reinstall the bluetooth and wireless network components, as mine stopped working when I did an update.  What are the components that I need to install?
[21:32] <research4oscar> I don't know how to transfer files from my laptop on to my ubuntu machine.
[21:33] <SilverLion> research4oscar, try dropbox ;)
[21:33] <Prabz> research4oscar, could you not use an external hard drive?
[21:33] <SilfenX> installed gnome-core and access it using vnc but desktop is extremely basic. I d like it to have a network manager for example so that I wouldnt have to rely on webmin to setup vpn etc. What should I add to gnome-core (not a regular desktop manager) to acheive this if possible?
[21:33] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: what system is your laptop running? windows?
[21:33] <research4oscar> yes.
[21:33] <SilfenX> seen there are something called core-extras but cant figure out what the metapackage name would be or indeed if it would solve my problem
[21:33] <marxjohnson> do you have SSH enabled on the ubuntu machine?
[21:34] <rocky_> Could anyone sugget a good alternative for webmin for my latest version of ubuntu ?
[21:34] <rocky_> suggest*
[21:34] <research4oscar> i do beleive i have ssh enabled.
[21:34] <marxjohnson> you can use WinSCP to copy files over ssh
[21:35] <research4oscar> okay i have winscp installed let me try transferring files.
[21:35] <Prabz> or plain old samba
[21:35] <hamed_shahien> hi every body when i create a database or a table in phpmyadmin i must choose charset and collation . could i make utf8_general_ci is a default value in creating database and tables????
[21:35] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: i don't know what credentials to use?
[21:36] <aifnord> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10, and in my previous install I had Alt+section (§) as a keybinding for starting a terminal, but in Unity/Compiz this key combination brings up some kind of overview-thingie similar to alt+tab (http://i44.tinypic.com/ol5rn.png)
[21:36] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: the same you use to log in
[21:36] <research4oscar> okay got it.
[21:36] <gantry> does anyone know which packages I need to re-install to get my wireless network working again?
[21:36] <aifnord> do any of you know what this monstrosity is called and how to disable it? i want alt+section for starting a terminal like I'm used to
[21:37] <BlackBomb> My desktop is a x86-based Intel, which ubuntu should i run? 64 or 32?
[21:37] <Prabz> aifnord, try disabling the keybinding in compiz
[21:37] <Oer> aifnord, ctrl + alt + T
[21:37] <rocky_> Could anyone suggest a good alternative for webmin for my latest version of ubuntu ?
[21:38] <Prabz> BlackBomb, what processor? If you've purchased it quite recently, 64 bit would also run
[21:38] <marxjohnson> BlackBomb: what processor does it have?
[21:38] <aifnord> Prabz: I'm trying to, but I can't find it anywhere
[21:38] <aifnord> Prabz: I figured if I knew what it was called I could google which plugin the binding is defined it
[21:38] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: how do i know if i have ssh enabled.  I did install openssh server along with lamp
[21:38] <aifnord> s/it/in/
[21:38] <BlackBomb> It has a Core (TM)2 Duo CPU E8500
[21:39] <BlackBomb> purchased about 2 1/2 years ago?
[21:39] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: if you install openssh it'll be enabled
[21:39] <MrHanjrah> rocky_: http://serverfault.com/questions/249973/what-is-a-good-alternative-to-webmin-for-dedicated-server-management or http://alternativeto.net/software/webmin/
[21:39] <Prabz> BlackBomb, C2Duo works with 64 bit
[21:39] <MrHanjrah> damn its 5 am o.0
[21:39] <Prabz> in fact, it is amd64 architecture
[21:40] <BlackBomb> awesome
[21:40] <MrHanjrah> nighty nite people
[21:40] <mirko1> BlackBomb: i still advice to use 32bit unless you a) know that there are working 64bit drivers for all your hardware and b) you don't need all the 16+ GB of RAM (or wherever the RAM limit for PAE was).
[21:40] <BlackBomb> Thanks
[21:40] <Prabz> aifnord, it's called unity application switcher
[21:40] <marxjohnson> you can double check by logging in and running sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[21:40] <SilfenX> does anyone know what I would need to install on top of gnome-core to be able to get a working GUI version of networkmanager?
[21:40] <hamed_shahien> i want to ask about mysql is any room talking about this ????
[21:40] <kantlivelong> anyone know why my sound gets messed up sometimes? like if i hit tab a few times in console it gets distorted
[21:40] <galamar> how can I get the name of one of the #backtrack-linux ops?
[21:41] <galamar> Hello. btw.
[21:41] <Prabz> SilfenX, tried networkmanager?
[21:41] <Cpudan80> /msg chanserv access #backtrack-linux list
[21:41] <kantlivelong> rocky_: learn the console and youll never need webmin :)
[21:41] <aifnord> Prabz: hmm, I've disabled "key to start the switcher" in the unity compiz plugin, how come it pops up anyway?
[21:41] <Prabz> SilfenX, nm-applet
[21:41] <SilfenX> Prabz: yes, but it wont show up in my virtual desktop (vnc)
[21:42] <kantlivelong> rocky_: but  cpanel is always nice.. not free tho
[21:42] <BlackBomb> mirkol: Yeah Im running 64 bit on my laptop and i seem to have a hard time getting my ATI graphics card working properly lol. I was told to run the open source driver
[21:42] <SilfenX> Prabz: I assume it ought to show up next to the clock, in the notification area?
[21:42] <galamar> thanks.
[21:42] <Prabz> SilfenX, yes, that's where
[21:43] <Prabz> aifnord, what exactly is your "section" key? what keyboard layout?
[21:44] <i1> Mirko1: Here's The Deal Okay, I've Downloaded The Theme From DeviantArt And Extracted The File That Was In My Downloads Then Tried To Copy The Folder Into The Usr/Share And Themes Folder But Says That I Can't Because I Don't Have Permissions To Create It Says That While Copying It To The Themes Folder.
[21:45] <aifnord> Prabz: it's the §-key (above tab and below escape on my keyboard), xev says the keysym is "section"
[21:45] <Prabz> i1, that's true. you will not have permission to create it there. instead copy it  in /home/.local/themes
[21:45] <mirko1> i1: please don't capitalze all words, makes your posts hard to read. post all down-case or in proper case if you have the patience.
[21:46] <rocky_> !vsftpd
[21:46] <i1> Mirko1: Okay no problem.
[21:46] <research4oscar> I created a helloworld file in my desktop ubuntu's public folder.  I can view the file from my laptop by hitting the internal ip address.  however when i connecting to the internal ip address using ipconfig, i get a time out error.
[21:46] <mirko1> now, you cannot write anything to /usr/share/* because you're not root (admin user is not the super user). as I said, extract  it into your personal .themes directory
[21:46] <research4oscar> I can see that openssh has been installed.
[21:46] <ccallahan> Well, I have a awkward situation. I just installed 11.10 with Wubi. I have a sound card that shows up in alsamixer, but Pulse does not see it.
[21:47] <ccallahan> Any thought on how to fix it?
[21:47] <i1> Prabz: Question? how would I be able to copy it in home/local/themes
[21:47] <Prabz> aifnord, Is your keyboard layout correct? Seems that your system is swapping "section"  and "TAB".
[21:47] <mirko1> i1: sorry, missed the i1: look at my last reply
[21:47] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: what do you mean by "connecting to the internal ip address using ipconfig"?
[21:48] <Prabz> I1, it's "/home/<username>/.local/themes
[21:48] <jack_sparrow> il remember the .local  is hidden
[21:48] <rocky_> ok i really dont understand why i cant install packages and i know this one exist because i did it yesterday on another machine some one please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/898437/
[21:48] <ccallahan> rocky_: Did you try running a "apt-get update"?
[21:49] <rocky_> no let me try
[21:49] <ccallahan> Once aptitude is done rebuilding the cache, try the apt-get again.
[21:49] <aifnord> Prabz: hmm, I think so, it seems to work fine and both tab and the "section" keys produce expected results when pressing them
[21:50] <ccallahan> as in, apt-get install vsftpd
[21:50] <i1> Prabz: Thanks for the help.
[21:50] <i1> Mirko1: Thanks too mirko
[21:50] <rocky_> ccallahan thanks ill let you know what happens
[21:50] <Prabz> i1, Glad to help
[21:50] <ccallahan> Anyways, anyone have a idea yet in my case?
[21:51] <rocky_> ccallahan omg thanks i was going fliping nutz
[21:51] <ccallahan> np
[21:53] <ccallahan> Wow. I don't think I have ever seen #ubuntu this quiet.
[21:53] <Seveas> ccallahan, sst, they might hear you
[21:53] <ccallahan> heh
[21:54] <jack_sparrow> ccallahan, the beauty of unity
[21:54] <jack_sparrow> it works so well no one needs help
[21:55] <Prabz> jack_sparrow, lol
[21:55] <Seveas> ccallahan, if pulse doesn't see your soundcard, maybe some other application is hogging it? Try fuser /dev/snd/*
[21:55] <research4oscar> any recommendations on some good reading to getting started with ubuntu environment for web development.  I found the following article: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[21:56] <SilfenX> Prabz: I ve tried installing network-manager via synaptic but it never shows up in the notification area. I have to start it from the system menu and it seem it s just an empty shell cust it shows no connections and whatever I add to it seem to have no effect what so ever
[21:56] <Seveas> research4oscar, install an httpd and whatever software you want to use as web framework
[21:56] <maxflax>  What module name should I be looking for if I want to see if my broadcom wifi Prop is loaded? my card is a BCM43224
[21:56] <maxflax>  What module name should I be looking for if I want to see if my broadcom wifi restricted is loaded? my card is a BCM43224
[21:56] <research4oscar> I have lamp installed along with bluefish ide.
[21:57] <Seveas> SilfenX, the thing in the notification area is not networkmanager, but nm-applet. Part of network-manager-gnome
[21:57] <Prabz> SilfenX, what version of ubuntu
[21:57] <SilfenX> lucid, 10.04
[21:57] <Prabz> SilfenX, See my earlier reply.. nm-applet
[21:57] <research4oscar> however i am new to setting up my port 80 and 22 to be able to transfer files from my laptop when I am not home using an ftp client.
[21:58] <ccallahan> Seveas: Assuming I am reading this right, no one is using the sound devices. I'm going to go ahead and pastebin it though just in case.
[21:58] <angs> what does this command do ". /usr/local/angstrom/arm/environment-setup"
[21:58] <SilfenX> oh, I ll tinker with that then see if anything changes - cheers
[21:58] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: are you trying to make the server accessible via the internet, not just your home LAN>
[21:58] <marxjohnson> ?
[21:59] <Seveas> angs the "." there means "read and execute this shell script in the current shell"
[21:59] <angs> Seveas: thank you
[21:59] <Seveas> angs, as if you would type all the commands in environment-setup directly
[21:59] <research4oscar> maxjohnshon: yes that would be ideal. but even it i can just get winscp working that would be okay for now.
[22:01] <ccallahan> Seveas: Here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/2131858
[22:01] <Seveas> ccallahan, yeah, something is using it
[22:01] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: Hold on, you seem to be asking about 2 completely different things, so let's take one at a time
[22:01] <Seveas> ccallahan, ps aux | grep 7539
[22:02] <ccallahan> Oh! That's a pid!
[22:02] <ccallahan> Okay
[22:02] <Seveas> yeah, it's a pid :)
[22:02] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: Your Ubuntu server and windows PC are within your home LAN, am I correct?
[22:02] <research4oscar> matxjohnson: sorry about that. lets start with just being able to transfer files from my windows laptop to my ubuntu desktop from within my LAN
[22:02] <marxjohnson> ok cool
[22:02] <research4oscar> yes.
[22:03] <ccallahan> The pid belongs to Pulse. Should I restart the service?
[22:03] <marxjohnson> do you have PuTTY on your windows box?
[22:03] <research4oscar> yes.
[22:03] <marxjohnson> can you log in to your Ubuntu box with PuTTY?
[22:03] <Seveas> ccallahan, given that it doesn't seem to do much now, thay may not be a bad idea
[22:03] <research4oscar> i'll try now.
[22:05] <ccallahan> I add "&" to the end of a command to daemonize it, right? (Sorry, been a year or two since I have used Linux)
[22:05] <SilfenX> woudl anyone why I get this message? "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/StartVNC.sh missing LSB information"
[22:05] <SilfenX> *know
[22:05] <Seveas> ccallahan, ehm, why not do /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart :)
[22:06] <Seveas> SilfenX, yeah, it's missing LSB headers. Look at the top of another file in /etc/init.d to see what they are
[22:06] <iZoz> www.alzubi.net
[22:06] <iZoz> www.alzubi.net/samasdood.html
[22:06] <iZoz> www.alzubi.net/openletter.html
[22:06] <iZoz> www.partyofthefree.org
[22:06] <FloodBot1> iZoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <ccallahan> Seveas: Says it's configured for per-user sessions.
[22:06] <Seveas> ccallahan, ehm, duh, yeah I'm stupid :)
[22:06] <research4oscar> marxJohnson: success!
[22:06] <research4oscar> I was able to login using putty.
[22:07] <Seveas> in that case the & trick works
[22:07] <mirko1> As a Ubuntu/Linux online supporter, I sooner or later have to get familar with the Gnome3 gnome-shell/Unity stuff (I actually don't want to, sigh and grump). Since both need 3D acceleration, I just can't run it in VBox. Any hints from people in a similar situation
[22:07] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: right, that means the SSH service is running, you should also be able to log in via  WinSCP using the same credentials
[22:09] <ccallahan> Seveas: There we go.
[22:09] <ccallahan> Now she is working
[22:09] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: i will try it again.
[22:10] <ccallahan> Now, do I need to file a ticket or should I wait to see if it does this again when I reboot?
[22:10] <Seveas> ccallahan, the latter.
[22:10] <ccallahan> I figured
[22:10] <ccallahan> Thanks!
[22:10] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: you are right. i had the ip address wrong.
[22:11] <research4oscar> I will try and transfer some files.
[22:13] <SilfenX> okay, this is my startvnc.sh script.( http://pastebin.com/4EhUaUJB ) Could someone tell me how it should look to avoid getting warnings about it not having proper LSB info?
[22:13] <jimi_c> I'm trying to netboot 11.10, and i'm specifying "auto url=http://..." but it's not trying to pull down the preseed at all. I've checked the url is right and I don't see any errors in my httpd log, anyone have any ideas?
[22:13] <williammanda> If a rules is created using gufw / ufw...is a iptables rule also created?
[22:13] <ccallahan> Seveas: Sorry to bother you again, but now it seems Pulse is not letting other devices access the audio stream. Everytime I start a Skype call, it says it can't capture the audio.
[22:14] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: i get a permission denied.  I got this same message when I created a file on my ubuntu desktop and tried moving it to my /var/www/
[22:14] <cuddylier> Hello
[22:14] <research4oscar> if i create the file using the command line using vi it creates my html/php with no problems
[22:15] <cuddylier> I have a problem with my account "Ryan", It has no permission to access the "home" folder or install any programs via sudo command
[22:15] <research4oscar> however if i create it on the desktop and try moving the files over to /var/www it gives me a permission denied error.
[22:15] <skel> cuddylier: do you have another account that you have sudo access with?
[22:15] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: you need to make sure you're logging in to WinSCP as a user who can write to /var/www
[22:15] <cuddylier> Yes, root
[22:15] <cuddylier> skel, yes root
[22:16] <skel> cuddylier: I'd check to see if ryan is part of the admin group
[22:16] <skel> cuddylier: and also see if his home dir is owned by him
[22:16] <cuddylier> How?
[22:16] <cuddylier> I'm a total n00b at ubuntu
[22:16] <bastidrazor> cuddylier: ubuntu does not have a root account.
[22:17] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: id <username>
[22:17] <skel> cuddylier: groups <id> will work too
[22:17] <mirko1> SilfenX: don't get any LSB related messages on 10.04, what Ubuntu version do you use and pastebin the exact output
[22:17] <cuddylier> groups=1000 (ryan)
[22:17] <research4oscar> i only have one user on my ubuntu machine. it is the same one i use to create the html files except i use the word sudo in front of the command vi
[22:17] <Cache_Money> does anyone use Jupiter?  I'm having trouble with a fan running all the time.  I was told I could use Jupiter to throttle the CPU back
[22:18] <skel> cuddylier: so as root, if you want them to have sudo access, do usermod -g admin ryan
[22:18] <BLZbubba> hello there, i'm trying precise & unity - is there a way to hide the panel?
[22:18] <SilfenX> mirkol: ok, give ma few minutes
[22:18] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: using sudo means you're creating the file as root
[22:18] <skel> cuddylier: then if you do groups ryan again you should see admin in the list
[22:18] <cuddylier> usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[22:18] <cuddylier> I get that error
[22:18] <jimi_c> or, as root, gpasswd -a admin ryan
[22:18] <skel> cuddylier: are you currently root?
[22:18] <marxjohnson> rather than your normal user which you're logging in as
[22:19] <jimi_c> gpasswd's a little nicer, since you don't have to worry about specifying all the groups or changing your default group
[22:19] <cuddylier> Yes I am root
[22:19] <llutz> cuddylier: skel you always want to use "usermod -aG .... "  if you miss the -a it will kick you from all other not listed groups
[22:19] <skel> cuddylier: try jimi_c's suggestion
[22:19] <target> hi
[22:19] <BLZbubba> or at least make the panel go under full screen applications
[22:19] <maxflax> when running sudo lshw -C network I get the wifi driver to be driver=brcmsmac and that can't be right since I've installed the STA in resticted right?
[22:19] <Pikos> hi
[22:19] <cuddylier> So, What do I type?
[22:20] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: gpasswd -a admin ryan
[22:20] <skel> llutz: ah ty, good to know
[22:20] <llutz> cuddylier: better to use " sudo adduser yourusername admin"
[22:20] <GhostConn> can someone suggest a better version of linux then ubuntu 11:10
[22:20] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: you'll need to change the permissions on /var/www so your normal user can write to it
[22:20] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: so do i need to assign my user special permission to that folder?
[22:20] <jimi_c> on old unix/linux, the -a option to usermod didn't exist
[22:20] <bastidrazor> GhostConn: 10.04
[22:20] <Pikos> I'd like to turn off samba on my laptop (KUBUNTU) do you know how to?
[22:20] <jimi_c> so gpasswd is what i use to this day :)
[22:20] <cuddylier> Adding user `ryan' to group `admin' ...
[22:20] <cuddylier> adduser: `/usr/bin/gpasswd -a ryan admin' returned error code 1. Exiting.
[22:20] <skel> GhostConn: if you can suggest to me a better fruit then strawberry
[22:20] <cuddylier> That error
[22:21] <Cache_Money> skel: Mango
[22:21] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: you did that backwards I think
[22:21] <SilfenX> Mirkol: here is my output about the LSB error: http://pastebin.com/gUKt8tTp
[22:21] <marxjohnson> research4oscar: look at the chmod and chown commands, you'll need to run them with sudo
[22:21] <jimi_c> oh no, nm you did it right
[22:21] <odinX> are there filesystems that are not almost the same, i mean like new concepts?
[22:21] <cuddylier> No, I did it in the correct order.
[22:22] <GhostConn> anything besides ubuntu lol ... ubuntu is the rotten bitter fruit of the bunch lol
[22:22] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: run this "getent group admin"
[22:22] <hamed_shahien> when i choose aday from calendar it open year 1970
[22:22] <research4oscar> marxjohnson: i will do that.
[22:22] <llutz> cuddylier: you need to that as user with sudo-access or root
[22:22] <cuddylier> I am in root
[22:22] <doug_> The Ubuntu sidebar is what caused me to remove it
[22:22] <skel> GhostConn: trolling won't get you far in here :) maybe if you were specific about what you're trying to avoid it'd help.
[22:22] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: run "id" with no options, what user does it say you are?
[22:22] <cuddylier> When I do "who" it days "root" is logged on
[22:23] <cuddylier> It says "uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)"
[22:23] <hamed_shahien> and in my other computer when i choose aday from calendar it don't open any thing
[22:23] <doug_> Is Opera better than Firefox?
[22:23] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: run "getenforce"
[22:24] <jimi_c> if it says "Enforcing", run "set enforce 0"
[22:24] <jimi_c> then retry the gpasswd command
[22:24] <marxjohnson> doug_: define "better"
[22:24] <skel> doug_: depends on what you value
[22:24] <jimi_c> sorry, "setenforce", no space
[22:24] <cuddylier> The program 'getenforce' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:24] <doug_> Faster, more options, less RAM, etc.
[22:24] <graingert> how do I use seahorse to sign documents?
[22:25] <cuddylier> then E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:25] <doug_> I'm having problems getting certain websites to load completely, mainly Facebook. The images of of others doest show up
[22:25] <jack_^> Does anybody know how to open magnet .torrent files using transmission-remote?
[22:25] <jack_^> # cat 2.Broke.Girls.S01E19.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION.torrent
[22:25] <jack_^> d10:magnet-uri208:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9209e8764e053adca7419fde53ee14fde6da6b08&dn=2.Broke.Girls.S01E19.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80&tr=udp://tracker.ccc.de:80e
[22:25] <jack_^> # transmission-remote --add 2.Broke.Girls.S01E19.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION.torrent
[22:25] <jack_^> localhost:9091 responded: "invalid or corrupt torrent file"
[22:25] <FloodBot1> jack_^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: it seems like your system is not in a good state :/
[22:25] <doug_> plus I cant load the "Ask Ubuntu" website
[22:25] <cuddylier> What should I do with it, Jimi? :(
[22:25] <pangolin> cuddylier, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:25] <mirko1> SilfenX: oh, that's a totatly different thing since you're trying to create a SysV startup scrip. does the script otherwise work? it's just a warning after all.
[22:25] <doug_> Xubuntu 11 seems to be the best fit for a Netbook
[22:25] <cuddylier> I am using xfce
[22:25] <marxjohnson> doug_: unless you're using a very old version of firefox, I doubt the browser is the root of the problem
[22:26] <cuddylier> It has like no features
[22:26] <cuddylier> How can I change it to have more features?
[22:26] <cuddylier> As it seems so basic things you are telling me doesn't work
[22:26] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: you can try and do what it says, to correct packaging issues. If this is a brand new install, you might want to try reinstalling
[22:26] <pangolin> cuddylier, open xterm and run the command: dpkg --configure -a
[22:26] <cuddylier> What is xterm?
[22:27] <SilfenX> mirkol: no, it s not working at all. After reboot there is no vnc session to connect to. It works inititating it manually via putty but not via the script. Seems it s bugging out or not getting run during boot
[22:27] <doug_> It does the same thing when I run Windows 7 so it's probably the connection
[22:27] <pangolin> !cli | cuddylier
[22:27] <jimi_c> @pangolin: he is root at a command prompt, so he should be good
[22:27] <maxflax> when running sudo lshw -C network I get the wifi driver to be driver=brcmsmac and that can't be right since I've installed the STA in resticted right?
[22:27] <pangolin> jimi_c, if he is root at the prompt he is not good at all.
[22:27] <GhostConn> I really don't care for the ubuntu side bar on the left as i use cairo dock... I dont mind it being there I just hate when i ave other applications open and if i go to close to it, it appears SOOOO ANNOYING !!! lol.. i have a black boot screen (minor)..I can't enable a network bridge with ubuntu... extremly hard to find help for ubuntu rather then say mint or fedora ect.. and for some reason ubuntu under clocks my amd bul
[22:27] <GhostConn> ldozer fx-8150 to 2.6ghz
[22:27] <jimi_c> @pangolin: that's a whole other issue :)
[22:27] <pangolin> jimi_c, it is an issue we do not support
[22:28] <cuddylier> Oh...my trash can says it can't find it when I delete a file
[22:28] <cuddylier> dpkg: error: failed to write status database record about 'python-aptdaemon' to '/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[22:28] <jimi_c> @pangolin: his main user was not in the admin group - some things you do have to use root for, though how it ended up in that state is anyone's guess
[22:28] <skel> GhostConn: you don't have to use the unity interface. If you like you can switch to gnome 3 or 2
[22:28] <DJ> cuddylier, right, you ran out of Hard drive space
[22:28] <doug_> Cairo Dock f***** up Xubuntu so bad that I had to reinstall the entire OS. Dont use it
[22:28] <cuddylier> How do I delete the files?
[22:29] <cuddylier> It is a partion of 10gb on the root user
[22:29] <cuddylier> My ryan user has 1.7tb
[22:29] <pangolin> !language | doug_
[22:29] <skel> GhostConn: bridging will be the same in mint as it is in ubuntu since mint is based on ubuntu
[22:29] <mirko1> SilfenX: actually it was stupid by me to actually ask if it works, it can't work. init scrits have a required structure and you need to write a correct SysV init script. if you don't want that just call your script in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[22:29] <GhostConn> thats the least of my worries however I will try SKEL thanks,,   my biggest problem is my cpu
[22:29] <doug_> Sorry about the language guys
[22:29] <skel> GhostConn: have you tried other packaged kernels? there are a few optimized for desktops
[22:30] <GhostConn> im runnign ubuntu desktop
[22:30] <GhostConn> 11:10
[22:30] <jimi_c> So, anyone familiar with netboot?
[22:30] <buntstift> for some reason I can't resize windows with alt + right mouse click/movement ...any idea?!
[22:30] <GhostConn> i have never had a problem before I think my cpu is just incompatible because its so new?
[22:30] <Steevca> Does anybody know a good software or an online app that i can put all my accounts (gmail,facebook,web hosting,etc.) and keep track of them and log in easy ?
[22:30] <skel> GhostConn: right but there are community packaged kernels different from the default that are optimized schedulers that some feel are better for desktop use
[22:30] <doug_> When I reset, I keep getting a list of programs stopped or start....One of them is a automatic crash report which is says failed to stop....what does this mean?
[22:31] <cuddylier> "Unable to find or create trash directory" It is on my desktop...
[22:31] <GhostConn> Ok ill take a look around for a kernel good for my cpu
[22:31] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: you'll have to delete files from the command line using the rm command - but be VERY careful what you delete
[22:31] <jimi_c> if you have stuff like ISOs or other big files i'd remove those to free up space
[22:32] <cuddylier> How would I delete a folder on my desktop?
[22:32] <cuddylier> In the command line &jimi
[22:32] <Seveas> cuddylier, rmdir ~/Desktop/"Name of folder"
[22:33] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: "rm -rf ~/Desktop/folder" <- BE VERY CAREFUL WITH "rm -rf"
[22:33] <jimi_c> that single command will destroy your system before you can say "oops"
[22:33] <jimi_c> every linux user has that learning moment at least once :)
[22:33] <cuddylier> Yay it worked
[22:34] <cuddylier> @Jimi What was the other command I need to type now?
[22:34] <SilfenX> mirko1: what should the line look like and where should it be placed inside rc.local?
[22:34] <jimi_c> you can see if gpasswd works now
[22:34] <Guest18193> guest18193
[22:34] <hamed_shahien> why calendar not working ????
[22:34] <mirko1> jimi_c: or a moment of suicide thoughs if your rm command destroyd your music collection. been there, done that. :-)
[22:35] <pwb> will google apps work in evolution?
[22:35] <graingert> pwb: if you've enabled IMAP
[22:36] <skel> pwb: google apps exposes stuff via standard protocols so yeah
[22:36] <skel> what graingert said
[22:36] <cuddylier> What do I do now to get "ryan" root access to everything?
[22:36] <graingert> I think your admin can disable IMAP
[22:36] <Seveas> cuddylier, you don't.
[22:36] <pwb> ok I enabled pop3 thjats where I went wrong
[22:36] <cuddylier> Why not?
[22:36] <graingert> if they are "unpleasant people"
[22:36] <cuddylier> My root user only has 10gb and ryan has 1.7tb
[22:36] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: you can give sudo access by using the gpasswd command we gave you above
[22:36] <Seveas> cuddylier, because root is root and ryan is ryan.
[22:36] <jimi_c> "gpasswd -a ryan admin"
[22:37] <mirko1> SilfenX: sorry, it's /etc/rc.local at least on 10.04 and a simple call of the script before the exit 0 should be fin
[22:37] <jimi_c> then stop using root
[22:37] <cuddylier> THat worked now
[22:37] <pwb> I just installed ubuntu on  a mac
[22:37] <cuddylier> Is there a way to switch users on vnc without rebooting?
[22:37] <gandhijee_> can someone *please* help me getting my two monitors working with Ubuntu 10.04 with an dell L502X laptop that has optimus technology in it.
[22:37] <gandhijee_> i don't even *care* about the nVidia card, i just want dual display with the integrated GFX
[22:38] <SilfenX> mirko1: ok, I ll give it try now see if it kicks in
[22:39] <cuddylier> How can I switch users without rebooting?
[22:39] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: log out and log back in?
[22:39] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:39] <cuddylier> THat
[22:40] <cuddylier> On xfce
[22:40] <cuddylier> As it has no login screen thing
[22:40] <jimi_c> that's what i'm saying - do that - no reboot required
[22:40] <cuddylier> How do I login and logout in the command line?
[22:41] <jimi_c> how are you starting up xfce without a login prompt?
[22:41] <cuddylier> Because it doesnt have one
[22:41] <cuddylier> Well, My version doesnt
[22:41] <cuddylier> Grey screen when I log out
[22:42] <cuddylier> And I gotta restart to change users :S
[22:43] <jimi_c> @cuddylier: can't help you there, it sounds like you're not running a standard desktop setup
[22:44] <cuddylier> I'm running one I was told by someone to use lol
[22:44] <cuddylier> It has like no features and is so lightweight it's annoying
[22:45] <waxstone>  /join #virtualbox
[22:45] <cuddylier> Me?
[22:46] <itaylor57> cuddylier, what is the output of lsb_release -sc
[22:46] <cuddylier> Let me see
[22:46] <cuddylier> oneiric
[22:47] <cuddylier> @itaylor57 oneiric
[22:48] <mirko1> jimi_c: what version? maybe http://itbubbles.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/autologin-with-lighdm-and-xfce/
[22:48] <williammanda> anyone available to answer firewall questions...ufw...iptables?
[22:49] <cuddylier> hmm, k
[22:49] <mirko1> williammanda: just ask, maybe we can answer, maybe not
[22:50] <williammanda> If I create a rule using ufw / gufw...is an iptable rule created?
[22:51] <Seveas> williammanda, in the end the only firewall is iptables, so yes
[22:51] <mirko1> williammanda: pretty much surely yes. ufw id a front-end to iptables
[22:51] <Oer> williammanda, yes. and you could check it with " sudo iptables -L "
[22:51] <meerkats> i have emptied my trash 3 times, but I still see files in there, whats going on?
[22:54] <maxflax> hello, How do I turn off the wifi power management so It does it at boot. Doing manually I know how
[22:54] <cuddylier> I still don't have access to the "root" folder on my "ryan" account
[22:54] <mirko1> meerkats: not sure, files from an external drive?
[22:56] <meerkats> mirko1, no
[22:56] <mirko1> cuddylier: sure, your ryan account might be an "admin" account but it's not a "root" (super-user, master of all) account. you do not need access to /root normaly (and you shouldn't use it unless you know what you're doing)
[22:57] <GhostConn> im using plymouth manager and for some reason the splash screens only work when i shutdown.. I get a black screen until login... anyone see anything wrong hear http://pastie.org/3662958
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander_> hello
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander_> is there a task manager in ubuntu?
[22:58] <cuddylier> Mirkol, Okay :D
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander_> my skype doesn't react anymore
[22:58] <Belial`> Lunar_Lander_, yes, it's called system monitor.
[22:58] <Laminator_> meerkats: Maybe a permission issue. Right-click on one of the files and check who has read/write permission
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander_> how can I access it?
[22:58] <meerkats> GB count reflects that the files have been erased
[22:59] <Belial`> Lunar_Lander_, press the super key (between the alt and fn key) and type "system monitor"
[22:59] <Belial`> assuming you're using unity.
[22:59] <Lunar_Lander_> yes
[23:00] <cuddylier> Also, What text editor is best to get and how do I install one?
[23:00] <Lunar_Lander_> it worked!!
[23:01] <maxflax> hello, How do I turn off the wifi power management so It does it at boot.
[23:02] <mirko1> cuddylier: "what text editor" is like "what music". it's a*TOTALLY* personal thing. what do you need?
[23:02] <cuddylier> I need to edit text files
[23:02] <cuddylier> That's all
[23:02] <mirko1> cuddylier: gedit
[23:02] <Laminator_> cuddylier: If you're on Ubuntu, you have several
[23:03] <cuddylier> I have none
[23:03] <boroowa> HIGUYS :d
[23:03] <boroowa> i have one problem
[23:03] <boroowa> with my lsptop
[23:03] <mirko1> cuddylier: you do have gedit. it's the default editor on ubuntu.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: leafpad is nice and light :)
[23:04] <cuddylier> Not for me on my wonderful xfce
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> boroowa: what is the issue, please use one line and explain
[23:04] <cuddylier> How do I install leafpad? What's the command?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: then you will have mousepad in xfce
[23:04] <cuddylier> Let me look
[23:04] <Laminator_> cuddylier: mirko1 gave you one option, you can also open a terminal and type nano "filename.txt" or vi "filename.txt"
[23:05] <cuddylier> Oh.. okay..
[23:05] <cuddylier> Yeah, I don't have mousepad
[23:05] <Lunar_Lander_> Belial`, I found it as "Systemüberwachung" in german, it has that ECG graph as a symbol, right?
[23:05] <boroowa> hi guys
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you may want to run:  sudo ln -s `which mousepad` /usr/bin/gedit    to make using guides online easier (which normally assume gnome)
[23:05] <boroowa> itsme;)
[23:05] <SilfenX> mirko1: didnt work either. Trying to set up a cronjoc via terminal instead
[23:05] <Belial`> Lunar_Lander_, yes, that's it.
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander_> yea
[23:06] <mirko1> cuddylier: ah sorry, forgot that, well, there are more editors than sand in the sahara. mousepad, leafpad, gedit, etc, just search the packages, I I just could remember what editor xfce comes with
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander_> showed Skype using 200% CPU
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you can run:  sudo apt-get install leafpad   and get leafpad :()
[23:06] <Lunar_Lander_> clearly had locked up
[23:06] <Laminator_> Gedit is very nice though, and has great plugins available if you want to extend it. Hope you eventually find an editor that suits you best.
[23:06] <boroowa> ihave alittle trouble withmy aptop
[23:06] <cuddylier> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:06] <sad_hacker> hello
[23:06] <sad_hacker> i am very sad
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: ok, run that command
[23:06] <boroowa> why?
[23:07] <sad_hacker> i cannot login anymore
[23:07] <boroowa> awwww
[23:07] <melfy> how do I get a couple terminals running on boot in specific X/Y h/w dimensions :( so its got my logs viewing as soon as I get to desktop
[23:07] <sad_hacker> i type my username and password and it throws me back to logging the username again
[23:07] <cuddylier> k
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> sad_hacker: how much free space do you have in the system?
[23:08] <cuddylier> Then when I do the sudo again
[23:08] <cuddylier> It says the same thing
[23:08] <sad_hacker> ActionParsnip: let me see...
[23:08] <boroowa> guys, can you tell me,what is reason of unexpected turn off my laptop?
[23:08] <cuddylier> I dunno what to do :(
[23:08] <boroowa> inevery 10 - 40 minutes?
[23:08] <cuddylier> So much going wrong
[23:09] <boroowa> ok
[23:09] <sad_hacker> i have enough space on my device
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get -f install    please
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: it will be actually useful
[23:09] <boroowa> ithink that isnt atemperature of processor or other
[23:09] <boroowa> partst of computer
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> sad_hacker: what if you change session?
[23:10] <cuddylier> Okay
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> boroowa: is the ram healthy? There is a memtested in the grui
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> grub
[23:10] <sad_hacker> the thing is... i'm on Lubuntu 11.10 and everything was working okay... now i'm on the live CD version of Lubuntu 11.10
[23:10] <boroowa> no
[23:10] <boroowa> but i willcheck this
[23:10] <sad_hacker> and if i wnt to access home folder from within this live session, i get the Permission denied error
[23:10] <hm_> hi! I'm getting segmentation fault for synaptic and linuxdcpp. Upon bt in gdb, I found it to be a problem in libc-2.11.1.so This started occurring only recently and I think it could be because of one of the packages I tried installing (may be vtk, llvm)
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> sad_hacker: what if you log in at CLI and then run:  startx
[23:11] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/bFnEWmyb
[23:11] <boroowa> isthe nextscenario?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> hm_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:11] <boroowa> damagedbus or something?
[23:11] <sad_hacker> log in at CLI?
[23:11] <sad_hacker> what is that?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> sad_hacker: press CTRL+ALT+F1 at the login screen
[23:11] <hm_> ohh sorry! ActionParsnip it's lucid lynx
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> sad_hacker: same place you checked free space
[23:11] <sad_hacker> oh
[23:11] <sad_hacker> gotcha
[23:11] <sad_hacker> i'll try
[23:12] <sad_hacker> i need to reboot
[23:12] <sad_hacker> so again, i only type  startx then?
[23:12] <sad_hacker> no spaces or other commands?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: can you pastebin the output of: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: wasn't that glaring obvious?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> sad_hacker: no, you run it like that
[23:13] <sad_hacker> okay
[23:13] <sad_hacker> keep our fingers crossed ;)
[23:13] <sad_hacker> your*
[23:14] <hm_> ActionParsnip: sorry for double posting but i'm on ubuntu lucid lynx.
[23:15] <cuddylier> no, I'm dumb
[23:15] <cuddylier> When I type that command it says it gives an error as well
[23:16] <cuddylier> Wow..
[23:16] <cuddylier> It worked that time
[23:16] <cuddylier> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:16] <Shojo> cuddylier: must check spelling
[23:16] <haydenhummel> Hey all.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: ok, pastebin the text
[23:16] <SusyLegs> hey guys, I want to install Ubuntu alongside W7.  Can someone tell me what I need to do?
[23:16] <cuddylier> k
[23:17] <haydenhummel> What version of Ubuntu are you wishing to install?
[23:17] <szal> SusyLegs: install, have fun
[23:17] <i1> Does Anyone know where to send Ubuntu feedback?
[23:17] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/E5Xx51yt
[23:17] <SusyLegs> szal: is that the help I can expect here? :(
[23:17] <haydenhummel> I can help you.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !info vim-athena
[23:17] <cuddylier> What does sudo apt-get -f install do?
[23:18] <SusyLegs> what partitions do I need to create alongside Windows 7 before I install ubuntu?
[23:18] <cuddylier> It says there is no space left on my harddrive..
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: ok run:  sudo apt-get install vim-athena     pastebin the output please
[23:18] <cuddylier> When I have 1.7tb
[23:18] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/D53XQ7DD
[23:18] <SusyLegs> please help me someone?
[23:18] <szal> !patience | SusyLegs
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> SusyLegs: just leave unpartitioned space and the installer will offer to use it, you don't need to make the partitions yourself
[23:18] <haydenhummel> Susy you don't need to. Ubiguity the installer used by Ubuntu does it all fo ryou. Just choose the option install byside windows.
[23:18] <i1> How do you get the wiggling feature whenever you move something in Ubuntu 11.10? Or did they remove that feature?
[23:19] <cuddylier> I didn't make any partions myself, my host did
[23:19] <cuddylier> One is 10gb and the other is 1.7tb
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> i1: wobbly windows can be enabled in ccsm
[23:19] <cuddylier> Since I added "ryan" to the admin group it switched partions
[23:19] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: so I dont need to use a partition program to create partitions before installing Ubuntu alongside W7?  Will ubuntu create a second partitoon for me for Ubuntu and a third partitioon for swap?
[23:19] <i1> ActionParsnip: How Would I Do That?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> i1: install compizcompiz-settings-manager   and you can run ccsm and enable it
[23:20] <haydenhummel> Yes. Ubuntu's install has an option to install along side Windows.
[23:20] <i1> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: 10Gb for Ubuntu is plenty. You may also want a swap partition of equal size to your RAM
[23:20] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel:  but will ubuntu installer create a second partitoon for me for Ubuntu and a third partitioon for swap?
[23:20] <cuddylier> I need a lot more space
[23:20] <cuddylier> As I'm running a minecraft server
[23:21] <Star_Light> hello is there any channel here with wireless communications support?
[23:21] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: Yes it will.
[23:21] <SusyLegs> can I install the 64 bit Ubuntu even though W7 is 32 bit?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: No space left on device    guess what that means
[23:21] <hm_> ActionParsnip or somebody: could you help me with the libc error on lucid? What else would be needed to figure out what's wrong
[23:21] <haydenhummel> Depend if your computer is 64bit or not.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: can you pastebin the output of:  df -h
[23:21] <SusyLegs> where can I download latest ubuntu?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[23:22] <haydenhummel> www.ubuntu.com/download
[23:22] <SusyLegs> 11.10 latest version?
[23:22] <szal> as of yet, yes
[23:22] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/c1YyWkQ4
[23:22] <haydenhummel> Latest stable yes.
[23:23] <szal> 12.04 will take another month or so
[23:23] <haydenhummel> 12.04 is on BETA and stabel though. I'm suing it right now.
[23:23] <haydenhummel> *using
[23:23] <SusyLegs> Will Ubuntu Desktop version allow me to encrypt my personal programs and files?
[23:23]  * szal doubts that haydenhummel will get money out of it :P
[23:23] <cuddylier> When I use filezilla, it downloads the files to the "home directory"
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: your partition for / is full. I suggest you uninstall some old kernels to free space, as well as uninstall any apps you don't use
[23:24] <zykotic10> cuddylier: your / 10G partition is full...
[23:24] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: any ideas?
[23:24] <cryptotheslow> SusyLegs, yes the installer will give you the option to do that
[23:24] <haydenhummel> Yes. During install it provides an option to do so.
[23:24] <rasusto> use the alternate install disk
[23:24] <SusyLegs> Crypticfortune: coolies
[23:24] <SusyLegs> :)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: your home folder is also on the smae partition so clearing temp stuff may help here too
[23:24] <szal> 10G for / is a bit on the low sinde anyway
[23:24] <SusyLegs> rasusto: what the alternative ISO and how is it different from Deskstop?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> szal: its fine for desktop use
[23:24] <cuddylier> How do I move it?
[23:24] <Star_Light> hello is there any channel here with wireless communications support?
[23:24] <cuddylier> I dont want the 10gb partion
[23:24] <cuddylier> I want to use the 1.7gb
[23:24] <cuddylier> How do I move to it?
[23:25] <szal> ActionParsnip: if it tends to run full it isn't
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> szal: my / is 5Gb with all the bells and whistles you can need
[23:25] <cuddylier> And do you know how I change the folder filezilla downloads files to?
[23:25] <rasusto> SusyLegs: it is similar to the debian installer, it give you the option for full disk crypto
[23:25] <SusyLegs> how big swap partition will Ubuntu create?
[23:25] <haydenhummel> Anyone here know if I can use Portage (Emerge) in Ubuntu?
[23:25] <CatalanGuy> hi
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[23:25] <angs> what is wrong with it? on what directory do I need to type the command? root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# ./configure --host=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi --prefix=/home/vmplanet/gccexamples/nano/nano_out/
[23:25] <angs> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> haydenhummel: there is apt-build which is similar, portege is Gentoo specific afaik
[23:25] <lewis1711> anyway I can remove the apt-get lock? I cannot find synaptic or apt-get in my process list at all
[23:25] <szal> cuddylier: lol, you change the folder in the left pane where you drag'n'drop the files to download
[23:26] <SusyLegs> rasusto: but if I encrypt the home folder using Deskstop version, wont that be good enough to keep people out?
[23:26] <zykotic10> !aptlock > lewis1711
[23:26] <cuddylier> Dragging and dropping doesnt work
[23:26] <cryptotheslow> SusyLegs, I think the desktop installer gives the option for encrypting your home dir, think you may need the alternate CD to do the full LUKS disk thing
[23:26] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/yhwEsZC8
[23:26] <cuddylier> I've tried that already
[23:26] <SusyLegs> cryptotheslow:  but if I encrypt the home folder using Deskstop version, wont that be good enough to keep people out?
[23:26] <rasusto> SusyLegs: different programs can leave caches outside of the home folder. For maxiumum security, full disk is the only way to go
[23:26] <cuddylier> Unless I am dragging and dropping wrongly
[23:26] <Kage`> Anyone know off the top of their head how I can set iptables to block TCP connections with a window size of 65535?
[23:26] <haydenhummel> ActionParsnip: I know that. I've been using Ubuntu since 10.04. I'm just wondering if I can.
[23:27] <haux> When I enable crossover in ubuntu (It's actually AMD's "Dual Graphics"), ubuntu freezes on the load screen after restart. Any ideas on how to get this working?
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander_> rasusto, what happens when I select "encrypt my files" on the installer?
[23:27] <SusyLegs> where I get alternative ISO?
[23:27] <spline> e
[23:27] <haux> Sorry, I mean crossfire.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: and a pastebin of the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[23:27] <rasusto> Lunar_Lander_: it encrypts the home folder only
[23:27] <research4oscar> I installed webmin under ubuntu. I anticipate I will be the only one using my webserver.  however can anyone recommend a basic user setup.
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander_> ah
[23:27] <Lunar_Lander_> is that good?
[23:27] <SusyLegs> is this the one I need? ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[23:27] <Gurty> Monde de merde
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: webmin isn't appropriate for Ubuntu
[23:27] <lewis1711> zykotic10: thanks
[23:27] <research4oscar> mainly i am going to be using my ubuntu setup to work on different web projects.
[23:27] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: Just use TrueCrypt
[23:28] <rasusto> SusyLegs: yes, assuming that is the architecture you need
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | research4oscar
[23:28] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/dgCE85sa
[23:28] <research4oscar> oh really, that sucks. it looked so nice.
[23:28] <Lunar_Lander_> thanks again people
[23:28] <SusyLegs> Ok im downloading ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent rioght now :)
[23:28] <rasusto> Lunar_Lander: it protects sensitive files in the home partition, but it could be possible to recover all or part of that data from caches outside of the home folder or in the swap space
[23:29] <haydenhummel> Will Ubuntu ever natively offer Oracle/Sun Java?
[23:29] <szal> cuddylier: where did you get that kernel from?
[23:29] <SusyLegs> will alternative ISO install next to W7 and create dual boot menu?>
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you aren't using an official kernel
[23:29] <cuddylier> It is OVH kernal
[23:29] <cuddylier> My host
[23:29] <rasusto> SusyLegs: yes, but I beleive you have to do the partitioning yourself. It isn't as user friendly as the normal iso
[23:30] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: Yes. Just chose the option to do so.
[23:30] <Jordan_U> SusyLegs: I would personally say that home directory encryption (alon with swap, which is what the installer does when you select home directory encryption) is all that's needed.
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: I suggest you uninstall something like libreoffice etc, then install bleachbit and use it to clean space down
[23:30] <cuddylier> I want to switch partions though
[23:30] <research4oscar> so then i should setup my users manually?
[23:30] <cuddylier> I dont want the 10gb one
[23:30] <research4oscar> using the command line
[23:30] <cuddylier> 1.7tb is being wasted
[23:31] <Jordan_U> haydenhummel: SusyLegs: Truecrypt is not generally recommended because it's effectively non-Free and I don't think we can support it here.
[23:31] <SusyLegs> Jordan_U: but rasusto said different programs can leave caches outside of the home folder. For maxiumum security, full disk is the only way to go
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you can move things over and symlink the folders I guess
[23:31] <cuddylier> How?
[23:32] <zykotic10> !movehome | cuddylier
[23:32] <cuddylier> My "home" folder has 1.7tb free
[23:32] <haydenhummel> Jordan_U: It's very useful though.
[23:32] <cuddylier> Yeah, it has all the free space
[23:33] <haux> When I enable crossfire in ubuntu (It's actually AMD's "Dual Graphics"), ubuntu freezes on the load screen after restart. Any ideas on how to get this working?
[23:33] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: Why do you want your system to be this secure? Is it all not a bit over the top?
[23:33] <zykotic10> cuddylier: do you have much apt archives?  du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:33] <SusyLegs> im settling for Desktop as its more user friendly apparently.  Do I then select to encrypt home folder?
[23:34] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: As we have all already said; yes.
[23:34] <cuddylier> 130M    /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:34] <SusyLegs> rasusto: you said some programs will leave caches outside of the home folder.   So how can I clean those caches?
[23:34] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: ok hehe
[23:34] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: BitBleach
[23:35] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: just checking :)
[23:35] <grumpy_> hello all New to bash...can anyone tell me how to look at the following log file:" /tmp/vmware-root/setup-6733.log" I'm having issues trying to install wmware
[23:35] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: whats BitBleach and how does it work and what does it do and how much does it cost to buy?
[23:35] <SusyLegs> !bitBleach
 Sorry, I don't know anything about bitBleach
[23:36] <haydenhummel> Well somebody's new to OSS any way. How much does it cost :p
[23:36] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: the Ubunti Bot knows nothing about Bitbleach
[23:36] <haydenhummel> It's free.
[23:36] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: whats BitBleach and how does it work and what does it do and how much does it cost to buy?
[23:36] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: whats BitBleach and how does it work and what does it do?
[23:36] <SusyLegs> and where do I get it?
[23:37] <zykotic10> cuddylier: what is using up your /? "cd /" then "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" will list all the subdirectories and there sizes
[23:37] <haydenhummel> SusyLegs: It clears up temp files such as cache memory. It's free and you can get it from the Ubuntu Software Cneter after you've installed Ubuntu.
[23:37] <SusyLegs> haydenhummel: well that takes care of the security issues, thanks :)
[23:37] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/Fct1Cfj2
[23:37] <cuddylier> I want to use the other partion though :(
[23:37] <grumpy_> can anyone tell me how to look at the following log file:" /tmp/vmware-root/setup-6733.log" I'm having issues trying to install wmware
[23:38] <cuddylier> It is empty
[23:38] <haydenhummel> SusyLegsL Yes.
[23:38] <pmjdebruijn> hi guys
[23:38] <pmjdebruijn> I think my compiz broke hard... I'm running precise
[23:38] <pmjdebruijn> it's complaining about not finding libcore.so
[23:39] <daniele> does anyone of you have an HD6850M graphic card which is actually working under ubuntu?
[23:39] <Seveas> hee pmj
[23:39] <haydenhummel> pmjdebruijn: Sorry we can't help with unreleased version of Ubuntu.
[23:39] <daniele> the whole world seems to have problems with that
[23:40] <cuddylier> Is there some command to type to make ubuntu use the other partion?
[23:40] <twig11> I need some assistance repairing a partition table on a dual-boot install with Windows XP and Ubuntu 11.04. Both were running fine until I booted ubuntu 11.10 from a usb flash drive that had a full install of ubuntu on it and next time I tried booting from my hard drive grub said it "couldn't detect a filesystem," and gave me a grub-rescue prompt which I have no idea how to use. I've booted from a liveusb install and gparted shows my ubuntu partition, dev/sda5
[23:40] <twig11> , as unknown filesystem type.
[23:40] <twig11> What should I do next
[23:40] <pmjdebruijn> Seveas: lo
[23:40] <pmjdebruijn> haydenhummel: #ubuntu+1 ?
[23:40] <boroowa> ok
[23:40] <Seveas> pmjdebruijn, compiz doesn't have a libcore.so, just a libcompiz_core.so
[23:41] <boroowa> I'mback
[23:41] <boroowa> i chceck mymy memtest\
[23:41] <boroowa> but it doesnt work
[23:41] <boroowa>  :(
[23:41] <cespare> How can I check if an apt repository is already installed? (e.g. if it's not, then I will run add-apt-repository)
[23:41] <pmjdebruijn> Seveas: it actaully complains about not being able to load /usr/lib/compiz/libcore.so
[23:41] <haydenhummel> quit()
[23:41] <cespare> it's not an argument to add-apt-repository
[23:42] <Seveas> pmjdebruijn, odd as that doesn't exist. Try upgrading
[23:42] <zykotic10> cespare: "apt-cache policy" might show you?
[23:42] <pmjdebruijn> Seveas: I'm fully up to date (on 12.04 that is)
[23:42] <_Marcus> How do I pause everything so that I can turn my computer off, go to Windows XP, restart it and go to Ubuntu and all my opened windows will still be there?
[23:43] <OscailtFoundatio> _Marcus: You can't.
[23:43] <boroowa> HI!
[23:43] <_Marcus> :(
[23:43] <boroowa> I checked my RAM! :)
[23:43] <boroowa> and it doesnt' work
[23:43] <haux> When I enable crossfire in ubuntu (It's actually AMD's "Dual Graphics"), ubuntu freezes on the load screen after restart. Any ideas on how to get this working?
[23:43] <Seveas> pmjdebruijn, what is complaining? compiz itself or one of the plugins? And which version?
[23:43] <boroowa> i mean memtest :)
[23:44] <boroowa> ihavemessage 80ke820 off and it doesn't work
[23:44] <boroowa> !
[23:44] <zykotic10> _Marcus: i thought what you where describing was called hibernate?
[23:44] <cuddylier> Why does my ubuntu server not use my 1.7tb partion and use the 10gb one..?
[23:45] <_Marcus> zykotic10: I was thinking that, but isn't that where when you turn on the computer, it goes directly to Ubuntu, not loading GRUB?
[23:45] <GhostConn> why dose ubuntu 11:10 underclock my cpu? Im running a amd bulldozer fx-8150   my stop cpu speed is 3.6ghz amd ununtu sets it to 2.6ghz
[23:45] <zykotic10> _Marcus: i seem to recall grub?
[23:45] <pmjdebruijn> Seveas it seems compiz itself
[23:45] <twig11> I need some assistance repairing a partition table on a dual-boot install with Windows XP and Ubuntu 11.04. Both were running fine until I booted ubuntu 11.10 from a usb flash drive that had a full install of ubuntu on it and next time I tried booting from my hard drive grub said it "couldn't detect a filesystem," and gave me a grub-rescue prompt which I have no idea how to use. I've booted from a liveusb install and gparted shows my ubuntu partition, dev/sda5
[23:45] <pmjdebruijn> Seveas: unity-2d still works though
[23:45] <twig11> , as unknown filesystem type. I've googled this for quite awhile and I have Testdisk installed but I can't seem to find repair instructions I'm confident that apply to this problem and make sense to me. I have important data on that partition. What should my next step be?
[23:45] <_Marcus> You know, never mind, I will just turn off my computer. I can reopen the windows later
[23:45] <Seveas> GhostConn, to save power when you don't need the cpu power. It should automatically raise the frequencey again as needed
[23:46] <icc_> oi
[23:46] <icc_> alguem pode  me ajudar
[23:46] <pmjdebruijn> Seveas: I guess I'll stick to unity-2d for now
[23:46] <icc_> estou com um problema no cheese alguem pode ajudar
[23:46] <GhostConn> ok.. i never knew that  kinda odd lol
[23:46] <_Marcus> ~pt icc_
[23:47] <_Marcus> !pt icc_
[23:47] <Seveas> !pt | icc_
[23:47] <ratcheer> pmjdebruijn: I was stuck in 2d for a while. But last night, I upgraded fglrx and now I'm back in 3D
[23:47] <icc_> thank you
[23:47] <icc_> bye
[23:47] <nancy--> how to know how much bandwidth is used in amazons ec2 cloud. i cant find any docs help or on google  ?
[23:49] <cuddylier> Why does my ubuntu server not use my 1.7tb partion and use the 10gb one..?
[23:49] <zykotic10> cuddylier: that's how you installed it...
[23:49] <bastidrazor> nancy--: bwm-ng is a terminal program that lets you monitor your usage
[23:49] <cuddylier> Really?
[23:49] <cuddylier> Oh.. :S
[23:50] <cuddylier> Because the 1.7tb is my "home" folder
[23:50] <cuddylier> But ubuntu isn't using the home folder
[23:50] <cuddylier> Also, what is the best gui to get?
[23:50] <pmjdebruijn> ratcheer: I don't use proprietary drivers
[23:50] <cuddylier> If I do reinstall
[23:51] <cuddylier> zykotic10
[23:51] <nancy--> bastidrazor, # bwm-ng
[23:51] <nancy--> The program 'bwm-ng' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[23:51] <nancy--> apt-get install bwm-ng
[23:52] <cuddylier> How would I install on the other partition?
[23:52] <zykotic10> bastidrazor: bwn-ng is pretty nice, are you aware of bmon?  you might want to check it out some time.
[23:53] <Helsinkiii> hi
[23:53] <Helsinkiii> When I hit "next" in Parole it fast forwards, and doesn't actually skip in my playlist. any ideas?
[23:54] <cuddylier> What is the best ubuntu server GUI to get?
[23:54] <Oscailt> cuddylier: Why use a GUI on a Server?
[23:55] <zykotic10> Oscailt: +1
[23:55] <nancy--> what is the differnce between virtualbox and virtualbox-ose iiin ubuntu?
[23:55] <cuddylier> Because I want to drag things and actually use the server
[23:55] <cuddylier> I hate command line
[23:55] <zykotic10> nancy--: virtualbox-ose is old - it's been merged with vitualbox
[23:55] <cuddylier> And it is useless for what I want to do
[23:55] <cuddylier> I have to select the server edition from my host
[23:55] <mirko1> cuddylier: please unlearn the word "best". there's no such thing. it depends. and +1 Oscailt. if you hate the command line, don't operate a unix /whatever sort) system.
[23:56] <cuddylier> How do I not? I don't have a clue what unix means
[23:56] <mirko1> s/system/server/
[23:56] <nancy--> zykotic10,  ok
[23:56] <Oscailt> cudylier: Well it's a real resource hog. If you really want to then perhaps  a light weight GUI desktop such as XFCE
[23:57] <cuddylier> I have xfce
[23:57] <marina_-> I want to get in touch with people who actually run some blogs or websites? anyone arround here ? i ' d like him to msg me plz :) thanx
[23:57] <zykotic10> nancy--: most likely you're seeing a virtual package name, to maintain packwards compatibility
[23:57] <Oscailt> Well then GNOME, but serious that just an needless resource hog. It's not to hard to learn a few commands.
[23:58] <mirko1> cuddylier: Linux is a non-standard Unix system. For operating a Linux/Unix server you *do* need command line knowledge
[23:58] <Oscailt> mirko1: +infinty
[23:58] <jimi_c> non-standard unix is redundant though
[23:58] <cuddylier> I like using a GUI but need to use linux
[23:58] <zykotic10> MikeN_: s/Linux/GNU Linux/ and it's a unix-like system ;)
[23:59] <mirko1> jimi_c:  *grin*
[23:59] <zykotic10> mirko1: ^ tab fail
[23:59] <twig11> What's the best way to repair a damaged partition on a dual-boot Windows/Ubuntu install? Grub doesn't recognize a filesystem on the partition and it's / so I can't boot ubuntu currently. I've googled this and can't find instructions that I feel confident apply to this situation. Help would be much appreciated, as my wife has files on that partition that aren't backed up.