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| === emma is now known as em | ||
| CellTech | BlackBerry Bold 9000 will no longer mount as mass storage device after I orphaned my system. What might I have to reinstall to make this pda device of mine mount again before my orphaned package removal? | 04:21 |
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| ooiiooo | I'm have a dual boot setup with xubuntu and two OS X installations. I don't want OS X to be in the grub boot menu. I don't want those partition to show up in thunar's devices. possible? | 06:17 |
| Sysi | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/ | 06:22 |
| Sysi | use "gksudo leafpad" instead of "sudo gedit" | 06:22 |
| Sysi | GUI apps should only be used with gksudo | 06:22 |
| ooiiooo | thanks | 06:23 |
| ooiiooo | what is the difference between gksu and gksudo? | 06:27 |
| Sysi | in ubuntu they should be same app, on other distributions just two slightly different apps for same task | 06:28 |
| ooiiooo | then why does gksudo accept my password and gksu doesn't? | 06:29 |
| bazhang | !find gksu | 06:30 |
| ubottu | Found: gksu, libgksu2-0, libgksu2-dev, nautilus-gksu, gksu-polkit | 06:30 |
| Sysi | ah, they're not same app anymore. gksu wants root passwd which doesn't exist in ubuntu, gksudo asks your user's passwd | 06:30 |
| bazhang | !info gksu | 06:30 |
| ubottu | gksu (source: gksu): graphical frontend to su. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-5ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 26 kB, installed size 160 kB | 06:30 |
| ooiiooo | k, thanks | 06:30 |
| bazhang | it's not installed perhaps? | 06:31 |
| Sysi | bazhang, read what I said :) | 06:31 |
| bazhang | Sysi, you seem to be mistaken | 06:32 |
| ooiiooo | some program, different behaviour: --sudo-mode, -S: Make GKSu use sudo instead of su, as if it had been run as "gksudo". | 06:33 |
| Sysi | ah, I think I've heard about that option for gksu. I just started to think it could've been done like that | 06:34 |
| ooiiooo | busybox does the same thing, right? one executable, different behaviour depending on what symlink was run | 06:36 |
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| Helsinkiii | hi | 13:40 |
| Helsinkiii | Just installed Xubuntu 11.1 over Ubuntu and I must say this is pretty cool | 13:40 |
| Helsinkiii | Except for the fact that hitting "next" in parole fast forwards, and doesn't skip songs | 13:41 |
| Helsinkiii | How can I fix this? | 13:41 |
| Kilos | afternoon all from south africa. can someone please tell me how to get xchat alerts to work in natty 11.04 | 14:03 |
| Helsinkiii | no idea | 14:04 |
| Kilos | i have done settings prefs alerts that work in ubuntu but still no sound | 14:04 |
| Kilos | also no login sound but pirgin freecell and vlc work fine | 14:05 |
| Kilos | *pidgin | 14:05 |
| Sheperson | my mb has an on-board VGA (ATI) and also supports an additional VGA card (I had an NVidia). | 14:07 |
| Sheperson | Now I have removed the NVidia card and try to use the on-board card | 14:08 |
| Sheperson | but I have no idea how to configure Xorg for it | 14:08 |
| Sheperson | can someone help me with it? | 14:08 |
| baizon | Sheperson: what amd card? | 14:08 |
| baizon | which version ? | 14:09 |
| Sheperson | ATI Radeon X1250 (or X1200) | 14:09 |
| Sheperson | my mb is Gigabyte GA-MA 69G-S3H | 14:09 |
| baizon | ok, so what do you need to configure? | 14:10 |
| Sheperson | Xorg starts, but I think it is not configured correctly | 14:10 |
| Sheperson | when I run Xorg -configure, I get an error that NVidia card is not found | 14:11 |
| Sheperson | or something like that | 14:11 |
| baizon | ok | 14:11 |
| baizon | try... | 14:12 |
| baizon | sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon | 14:12 |
| baizon | sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati | 14:12 |
| baizon | sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core | 14:12 |
| baizon | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 14:12 |
| baizon | then reboot | 14:12 |
| Sheperson | ok, let me try | 14:12 |
| Helsinkiii | do you guys know how to get parole to skip songs when i click "next" and not FF? | 14:12 |
| baizon | Sheperson: more under: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver | 14:12 |
| Sheperson | thanks | 14:12 |
| baizon | just skip the "removing" part | 14:13 |
| Sheperson | baizon, I get this error: | 14:17 |
| Sheperson | E: Internal Error, No file name for libgl1-mesa-dri | 14:17 |
| baizon | Sheperson: then dont use "--reinstall" | 14:18 |
| Sheperson | ok | 14:18 |
| gry | does xubuntu use same sources.list / repositories as ubuntu? | 21:39 |
| mongy | gry: in a word, yes | 21:42 |
| gry | would you mind pasting your sources.list for an example please? | 21:42 |
| mongy | gry: to me, ubuntu is not a gnome/unity desktop, it is a base install + whatever-desktop install | 21:42 |
| mongy | mm ok | 21:43 |
| mongy | http://paste.ubuntu.com/898431/ | 21:43 |
| mongy | I have removed all the # comments and also enabled partner repo, but aside from that it is a stock list | 21:44 |
| gry | hm, if you install xfig for example, does it show up in applications menu? I think the problem is that it doesn't for me | 21:45 |
| gry | (just uninstall it once done if you like, I hope it's not a problem to try) | 21:46 |
| mongy | the menu is different to gnome/unity so you might have to add it yourself. | 21:47 |
| mongy | I'm running 12.04 btw and it has a menu item in the graphics section | 21:48 |
| mongy | alacarte (the menu editor) is installed by default though, which might suggest a reason why | 21:50 |
| mongy | if it's any help, it's just run as 'xfig' nothing special. | 21:50 |
| boris1001 | could anybody help with a sound problem? | 22:19 |
| GridCube | !details | boris1001 | 22:23 |
| ubottu | boris1001: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 22:23 |
| gry | mongy, so xfig appears in graphics for you? | 22:37 |
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| Guest84306 | Hi there! Anybody here? | 22:39 |
| Guest84306 | ? | 22:41 |
| Guest84306 | ? | 22:42 |
| Guest84306 | I need to get Help... | 22:43 |
| Guest84306 | ...about translation project. | 22:43 |
| chelz | Guest84306: have you looked over http://xubuntu.org/contribute/translating/ ? | 22:45 |
| mongy | gry: yes | 22:45 |
| Guest84306 | Thank You, I'm just reading it. :-) | 22:46 |
| gry | mongy, many thanks | 22:46 |
| Guest84306 | You think is it possible to contribute to translate the offline help? | 22:47 |
| Guest84306 | I would not translate the applications but only the Xubuntu offline help. | 22:48 |
| Guest84306 | Interestingly they are on the Natty release... | 22:49 |
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| Guest84306 | Where is Oneiric and the forthcoming Precise? | 22:50 |
| Guest84306 | I'm from Hungary - on the official hungarian ubuntu irc channel they said | 22:58 |
| Guest84306 | the documentation translation project is actually dead. | 22:58 |
| Guest84306 | You think is it true? | 22:59 |
| GridCube | knome, | 22:59 |
| GridCube | pleia2, | 22:59 |
| GridCube | Guest84306, translators are always welcome | 23:01 |
| Guest84306 | :-) Thanx | 23:01 |
| knome | GridCube, hey? | 23:02 |
| GridCube | sup knome, Guest84306 here wants to know stuff about translations and stuff | 23:02 |
| Guest84306 | is the offline help in your native language on your system? | 23:02 |
| GridCube | Guest84306, never used it let me check | 23:03 |
| GridCube | no its not :U | 23:03 |
| Guest84306 | Hardcore users usually doesn't need it | 23:03 |
| knome | hmmh, i have to admit, i don't know much about the translations or documentation status | 23:03 |
| GridCube | lol even the logo in the documentation its the really old one XD | 23:03 |
| Guest84306 | but it could be useful for a beginner I think. | 23:03 |
| knome | GridCube, that's interesting. is it even saying 12.04? :P | 23:04 |
| knome | or are you on precise anyway? | 23:04 |
| knome | or do you mean the *really old* logo? | 23:04 |
| Guest84306 | I'm on Oneiric, the offline help talks about it, but in english. | 23:05 |
| Guest84306 | The Ubuntu contribution page is a bit confusing me, | 23:06 |
| GridCube | knome, http://imagebin.org/205010 | 23:06 |
| knome | hrrrh | 23:07 |
| Guest84306 | firstly because it's for Ubuntu not for Xubuntu... | 23:07 |
| GridCube | knome, the really really old one | 23:07 |
| knome | yeah | 23:07 |
| knome | that's acutally even an old version of the old logo | 23:07 |
| GridCube | the one that was the coolest :P | 23:07 |
| GridCube | gotta go | 23:07 |
| GridCube | bbl | 23:07 |
| Guest84306 | ... of course I know many parts of it is the same. | 23:08 |
| knome | Guest84306, exactly | 23:08 |
| knome | Guest84306, tbh, even the xubuntu docs in *english* aren't doing so well | 23:08 |
| knome | Guest84306, that's probably something else we need to cover in the Q cycle | 23:09 |
| Guest84306 | Maybe You're right. | 23:10 |
| Guest84306 | There is online help for Ubuntu, online for Xfce and so on... | 23:10 |
| knome | i can't remember when is the last time we really reviewed the focs | 23:10 |
| knome | *docs | 23:10 |
| Guest84306 | But it doesn't look like professional, if there is no offline help in native language... | 23:11 |
| Guest84306 | I know everybody is online but... | 23:11 |
| knome | unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about it unless we get more contributors | 23:11 |
| knome | if you are volunteering to start working on the docs, that would be awesome, and you'd get all the support from the team you need | 23:12 |
| knome | that's the prerequisite to get offline docs in a translatable condition | 23:12 |
| Guest84306 | OK, I think I've to compare the ubuntu docs to xubuntu. | 23:13 |
| Guest84306 | knome Yes it is. :-) | 23:13 |
| knome | if you're interested in undertaking the project, or help with it, join our devel channel at #xubuntu-devel | 23:13 |
| knome | you also might want to join the xubuntu-devel mailing list and introduce yourself | 23:14 |
| Guest84306 | I see... Thank You. | 23:14 |
| knome | but as i said, it's probably something we need to cover in Q, so i'm at least trying to get some love for the docs in the next cycle | 23:14 |
| knome | i'm pretty sure there are things that are completely outdated as well as some things that probably need no review | 23:15 |
| Guest84306 | Are the docs usually released in English the actual xubuntu release, and the translated ones later? | 23:15 |
| knome | that depends | 23:15 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 23:16 |
| knome | there's the DocStringFreeze (3 days ago) | 23:16 |
| knome | after that, there's time for translations | 23:16 |
| Guest84306 | Ahaaaaa!!! I understand. Valuable info. :-) | 23:17 |
| knome | but since the docs are in awful shape, there's no way to get the translations in for this release | 23:17 |
| Guest84306 | :-( | 23:17 |
| knome | and if we updated the docs, we'd lose any translations | 23:17 |
| knome | and i think ancient translations are better than no translations | 23:17 |
| Guest84306 | But there is no translation in hungarian - for offline docs. Online is OK, i think. | 23:18 |
| knome | online docs is completely different thing | 23:18 |
| Guest84306 | Of course we need the basics first, | 23:19 |
| knome | they don't really have any freezes, since they are not tied to any release | 23:19 |
| Guest84306 | later we could translate - I agree. | 23:19 |
| Guest84306 | Precise will be a LTS. Do You think are there any chances for updated offline docs? | 23:20 |
| knome | nope, as i said, the unfortunate situation is that we've passed the doc freeze | 23:20 |
| knome | and even if we updated the docs in english and got that in, it would mean we'd lose any translations | 23:20 |
| Guest84306 | Oh, really... sorry... | 23:21 |
| knome | and there's no time to both review the docs and work on the translations | 23:21 |
| knome | so sadly yes, it needs to be for the QQ cycle, and we can only hope that people will use the online docs as much as possible | 23:22 |
| knome | (though i don't know how recent they are either) | 23:22 |
| Guest84306 | Maybe it's just my opinion, but it would be nice the OS includes a well shaped, updated and usable offline help too, not just online. | 23:24 |
| knome | i completely agree | 23:24 |
| knome | it's just we haven't had the manpower or anybody with specific interest towards the docs for a while | 23:25 |
| Guest84306 | I see... | 23:25 |
| Guest84306 | But as You said, an outdated but translated help is better than nothing. :-) | 23:26 |
| knome | yep | 23:26 |
| knome | this cycle, more than 60% of the work items done for xubuntu were done by 4 people | 23:27 |
| knome | that tells much, doesn't it? | 23:27 |
| knome | and actually, that's about to raise | 23:27 |
| knome | to about 65% | 23:27 |
| Guest84306 | Wow. :-) | 23:28 |
| * knome will score about 30% ... | 23:28 | |
| gry | knome, 'work items'? | 23:28 |
| knome | though, it's not that simple. some work items are harder to accomplish than others | 23:28 |
| Guest84306 | Anyway the help system is affected by System Update? | 23:28 |
| knome | gry, single bugs or other items, like "create countdown banners" | 23:29 |
| knome | gry, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu.html for details | 23:29 |
| * knome admits some of his items are very trivial :) | 23:29 | |
| knome | but otoh, there's much work that doesn't show up there anyway | 23:30 |
| Guest84306 | OK, i'll check it. | 23:30 |
| Guest84306 | Anyway the help system is affected by System Update? I mean... | 23:30 |
| knome | yes, the offline docs can get updates via system updates | 23:30 |
| Guest84306 | OK, I see. | 23:31 |
| knome | so one idea is to get the docs in shape, and provide the new docs and translated versions via SRU's (stable release updates), which are 12.04.1 etc | 23:31 |
| knome | 12.04.1 is released in july 19, that might be a bit tight | 23:31 |
| knome | 12.04.2 is january 31 2013, that sounds more realistic for updated docs and a fair amount of translations | 23:32 |
| Guest84306 | Oh, I can't wait it for. :-) I LOVE Xubuntu! | 23:32 |
| gry | knome, I'll look at it, many thanks for the url | 23:32 |
| knome | gry, np :) | 23:33 |
| pad | Hi everyone. | 23:33 |
| knome | Guest84306, well, somebody still needs to do thw WORK ;) | 23:33 |
| knome | Guest84306, so still, if you are willing to help.. that will help :) | 23:33 |
| knome | pad, hello | 23:33 |
| Guest84306 | Agree. :-) | 23:33 |
| pad | I'm looking for some help with pulseaudio/alsamixer. | 23:34 |
| Guest84306 | Maybe in 12.10. | 23:34 |
| knome | Guest84306, well as i said, 12.04.x is realistic | 23:34 |
| pad | is there someone eager to ? | 23:34 |
| knome | Guest84306, but that will mean it's not provided when 12.04 is released | 23:35 |
| knome | pad, what is the problem? | 23:35 |
| Guest84306 | But You said its been freezed yet... | 23:35 |
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| knome | Guest84306, i will try to explain again :) | 23:35 |
| Guest84306 | So we possibly wont get updated offline docs... | 23:35 |
| pad | knome : well, a few days ago, I lost all sound on my system. | 23:35 |
| knome | Guest84306, 12.04 is released in april | 23:35 |
| knome | Guest84306, we won't be able to get the udpates docs out in april | 23:36 |
| pad | It worked correctly before that, and I don't know what trigger it (an update probably, but i'm unsure) | 23:36 |
| knome | Guest84306, but we can work on them meanwhile, and apply those along with a SRU (stable release update) at a later stage | 23:36 |
| Guest84306 | Thats why i said maybe in 12.10. :-) | 23:36 |
| knome | Guest84306, meaning, anybody with 12.04 will get the updated docs along with normal security updates | 23:37 |
| Guest84306 | Yes yes i see yet!!! | 23:37 |
| knome | Guest84306, but maybe in july... | 23:37 |
| Guest84306 | Ok Ok, sorry... | 23:37 |
| knome | Guest84306, not april, when 12.04 is released :) | 23:37 |
| pad | The point is, I tried what I could find on the web (checking alsamixer, installing pavucontrol, ...) without anything happening. | 23:37 |
| Guest84306 | ok ok ok imsorry imsorry imsosorry. :-) | 23:37 |
| knome | pad, what card? i have audigy 2 platinum ex, and i need to unmute a specific channel in alsamixer to get any sound out | 23:38 |
| pad | The only thins that does do something is "pulseaudio -k" which makes the sound actually work for like 500ms before pulseaudio is stopped. | 23:38 |
| knome | pad, hmm, sounds weird... | 23:38 |
| pad | lspci gives (if that's what you want) : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) | 23:39 |
| knome | pad, that's integrated, i assume? :) | 23:40 |
| pad | yes | 23:40 |
| Guest84306 | Keep up the good work guys, I quit - bye! | 23:40 |
| knome | Guest84306, okay, see you | 23:41 |
| pad | Hum... after killing it like ten times, it somehow came back to normal. However, I'm not feeling too confident it will last, since the bug survived reboot and purge before that... | 23:50 |
| knome | pad, which xubuntu version is it? | 23:51 |
| pad | 11.10 | 23:52 |
| Helsinkiii | hi | 23:52 |
| knome | hello | 23:52 |
| Helsinkiii | When I hit "next" in Parole it fast forwards, and doesn't actually skip in my playlist. any ideas? | 23:52 |
| pad | Hi Helsinkiii. | 23:53 |
| Helsinkiii | hi pad | 23:53 |
| Helsinkiii | pad, any ideas? | 23:54 |
| pad | no. I'm not using Parole on a regular basis, sry. | 23:57 |
| Helsinkiii | pad, what do you use? I don't like it that much | 23:57 |
| Helsinkiii | I want something that is as simple as Parole and has a playlist integrated into the player window | 23:57 |
| pad | Helsinkiii : seems to me that indeed those are not "next" buttons but "fast forward" buttons. | 23:58 |
| pad | (seems so when you look at the label after a right clic) | 23:58 |
| Helsinkiii | pad, there is no label. and i've never seen a player that doesn't skip when you hit next | 23:59 |
| Helsinkiii | i might just get the source and fix it | 23:59 |
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