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BluesKaj'Morning all13:05
shadeslayerRiddell: I thought I shut it down last night13:53
shadeslayertablet is almost done upgrading to precise \o/13:54
shadeslayerrbelem: something is foobared with kubuntu-active, it doesn't pull in anything14:35
shadeslayerrbelem: plasma-active takes a shit load time to load :S15:14
shadeslayeruhhh15:30
shadeslayerKDE starts up fine15:35
shadeslayeractive does not 15:35
shadeslayerwell .. I get the splash thingy and then nothing15:35
* shadeslayer thinks the X bits are shot on precise15:36
shadeslayerheh, es2gears reports around 20 fps15:57
shadeslayerwhuuuttt16:00
BluesKajshadeslayer,  try glxgears16:08
BluesKajes2gears seems wrong to me 16:09
shadeslayerBluesKaj: it's a ARM device, I don't think glxgears will be any betters16:09
shadeslayerand the nvidia-tegra package doesn't seem to work for some reason16:09
BluesKaj1466 frames in 5.0 seconds = 292.454 FPS with glxgears full screen16:10
BluesKaj113 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22.483 FPS wih es2gears full screen16:11
shadeslayeragain, not a standard ubuntu install :P16:11
shadeslayerHalf the stuff isn't working16:12
* BluesKaj wonders about the resource hogging16:12
shadeslayerPlasma Active starts and then crashes16:12
BluesKajpractically the same graphics 16:12
shadeslayerBluesKaj: huh?16:12
BluesKajes2 and glx16:12
shadeslayeres2 is for opengles2 whereas glx gears uses opengl if available16:13
BluesKajplasma active ..what does that do anyway ...i don't see thepoint of it16:13
shadeslayerBluesKaj: KDE for Touch screen based devices16:13
BluesKajoh tablets16:13
shadeslayeryep16:13
BluesKajok I forgot.16:13
shadeslayerI managed to boot ubuntu on my transformer, now running precise and unity, but can't get active started16:14
shadeslayerprobably because I'm missing graphics drivers16:14
BluesKajyeah, I have to to use hi cpu and hi graphics on this monitor in order for the root apps to show proper sized fonts etc in systemsettings16:15
shadeslayer:D16:17
ScottKdebfx: scidavis appears to have GLu header problems with Qt4.8.  It would be nice if you could have a look at it.16:17
ScottKI think it'd be worth uploading that and the patch in Debian Bug #654265 to experimental and then syncing.16:18
ubottuDebian bug 654265 in scidavis "scidavis: FTBFS on armel/armhf: src/PythonScripting.cpp:60:28: fatal error: sipAPIscidavis.h: No such file or directory" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/65426516:18
ScottK(I'll sponsor if you'll figure out the fix)16:18
Peace-Riddell: 13 vs 5 on the poll 16:20
shadeslayerQuintasan: ping16:23
shadeslayerQuintasan: were you able to run plasma active?16:24
shadeslayer( on your transformer )16:25
shadeslayerrbelem: ok so I can start plasma desktop just fine, but plasma active does not start16:33
nigelbshadeslayer: use unity! *ducks*16:43
shadeslayeractually, that's what I was using earlier :P16:43
shadeslayerrbelem: Riddell startactive log, could either of you tell me why startkde works but startactive just gives me a blank screen ?16:44
shadeslayerit shows me the splash but then blanks out16:44
shadeslayererm .. the log is here : http://paste.kde.org/44624016:50
shadeslayerheh, cant even register clicks16:50
debfxScottK: /usr/include/qwtplot3d-qt4/qwt3d_openglhelper.h:67:31: error: 'gluErrorString' was not declared in this scope16:51
debfxsounds like a bug in qwt3d16:51
ScottKOK.16:52
ScottKdebfx: Care to fix that then?  There's no fix (or even bug) for it in Debian.16:54
debfxin fact qwtplot3d FTBFS with Qt 4.817:15
ScottKI guess it needs adding to http://wiki.debian.org/QtMultiarchTransition then as it's got a mix of multiarch and 4.8 things.17:26
debfxScottK: I haven't added new packages to the wiki as it just duplicates the usertag bug overview17:36
ScottKdebfx: OK.  How about adding the link to that to the wiki page then.17:37
debfxit's already there17:37
* ScottK look again17:37
ScottKSure enough. Thanks.17:37
debfxpatch for qwtplot3d sent17:38
debfxif only the BTS wasn't so slow17:39
ScottKdebfx: Ubuntu upload accepted.  Thanks.17:47
ScottKdebfx: scidavis still fails: http://paste.debian.net/160948/ - qwtplot3d or scidavis' fault?18:45
debfxScottK: scidavis needs to link against GLU18:47
ScottKOK, so it'll need a Qt 4.8 change too?18:48
debfxyes18:49
rbelemshadeslayer, did you install kubuntu-active-default-settings?18:52
shadeslayerafaik yes18:52
shadeslayerrbelem: it's installed18:52
rbelemshadeslayer, it should work well18:52
rbelemshadeslayer, at least it was working fine on virtualbox18:53
shadeslayerhmm18:53
shadeslayerI dunno, could be the drivers, but then standard desktop KDE starts just fine18:53
rbelemshadeslayer, is 3d acceleration working?18:53
shadeslayernope18:53
shadeslayerI need to port the GLES drivers from nvidia's L4T release to the kernel that my install is using18:54
rbelemshadeslayer, maybe that's the issue18:54
shadeslayerand I have absolutely no idea how to do that :P18:54
shadeslayerrbelem: I think so too18:54
rbelem:-D18:54
rbelemshadeslayer, i'm working now to finish the kwin for active18:55
shadeslayeroh awesome18:55
rbelemshadeslayer, i backported the two needed patches, but only one is being applied for now18:56
shadeslayerrbelem: there's also the issue of the transformer having only 8MB's for the kernel18:57
rbelemshadeslayer, ouch...19:01
rbelemshadeslayer, it needs a simple kernel to boot the main kernel19:02
shadeslayeridk .. haven't looked into it alot19:04
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littlegirlPing jjesse. (:19:40
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Riddelllittlegirl: hi20:17
Riddellhow are the docs getting on20:17
RiddellDarkwing said he'd package them have you noticed any sign of that?20:17
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littlegirlRiddell: No, but I've pushed a couple of more changes since the doc freeze.20:28
rbelemheya Riddell 20:29
rbelemRiddell, i think we need one more package to kde-window-manager http://paste.kde.org/446288/20:31
rbelemRiddell, or we move the #common block to kde-window-manager-data?20:31
Riddellrbelem: those files under #common are binary, packages called -data are only for arch independent files20:45
Riddellso if they need to be shared find a good name for another shared package20:45
rbelemRiddell, they look like plugins, right? the package could be kde-window-manager-plugins?20:50
rbelemmgraesslin, ^20:51
rbelem:-)20:51
Riddellrbelem: yes I think so20:52
Riddellrbelem: plugins will have a .desktop file to go with them, make sure the .so and the .desktop file are both in the same package20:53
rbelemsweet :-)20:53
rbelemoki20:53
rbelemRiddell, hum... i dont know why but kde-window-manager-plugins is not sounding right to me :-(21:02
rbelembut they are plugins...21:05
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Riddellrbelem: kde-window-manager-common ?21:40
Riddellrbelem: kde-window-manager-common-plugins ?21:40
RiddellI wonder why debian changed it to  kde-window-manager from kwin21:40
ScottKIt makes way less sense now that kde is people.21:46
jalcineProbably to make more semantic.21:49
jalcineLike gnome-window-manager, unity-window-manager, x-window-manager, etc.21:49
DarkwingRiddell: Having issues with xml2po... trying to figure it out with the other doc guys22:04
RiddellDarkwing: mm, docbook tools are never friendly to use22:07
DarkwingYeah I know.22:07
DarkwingI've let the Ubuntu Documentation team know... I kinda got yelled at for being too proactive and not waiting for Ubuntu Docs to submit everything.22:08
DarkwingTo the translators that is. So, we shall see what happens.22:08
nixternalLibreOffice Writer - start a new file, insert a new form field, can you double click on it to open up the form controls dialog?22:20
nixternalwith precise ^^22:20
littlegirlDarkwing, do you have a preference for either "file system" or "filesystem" in the docs? Both are used, and I'd like to pick one for all of them. (:22:22
littlegirlAlso, do you prefer <trademark class="registered">Adobe</trademark> or <trademark>Adobe</trademark> where Adobe is just an example?22:23
nixternalbug 964838 - if you try what i asked above and it doesn't work, i filed a report on it22:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 964838 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LO Writer - form control editing doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96483822:25
Darkwinganyone in here still using Oneiric?23:45
* littlegirl uses Lucid.23:49

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