=== jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine === smz_ is now known as DoctorPepper [13:05] 'Morning all [13:53] Riddell: I thought I shut it down last night [13:54] tablet is almost done upgrading to precise \o/ [14:35] rbelem: something is foobared with kubuntu-active, it doesn't pull in anything [15:14] rbelem: plasma-active takes a shit load time to load :S [15:30] uhhh [15:35] KDE starts up fine [15:35] active does not [15:35] well .. I get the splash thingy and then nothing [15:36] * shadeslayer thinks the X bits are shot on precise [15:57] heh, es2gears reports around 20 fps [16:00] whuuuttt [16:08] shadeslayer, try glxgears [16:09] es2gears seems wrong to me [16:09] BluesKaj: it's a ARM device, I don't think glxgears will be any betters [16:09] and the nvidia-tegra package doesn't seem to work for some reason [16:10] 1466 frames in 5.0 seconds = 292.454 FPS with glxgears full screen [16:11] 113 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22.483 FPS wih es2gears full screen [16:11] again, not a standard ubuntu install :P [16:12] Half the stuff isn't working [16:12] * BluesKaj wonders about the resource hogging [16:12] Plasma Active starts and then crashes [16:12] practically the same graphics [16:12] BluesKaj: huh? [16:12] es2 and glx [16:13] es2 is for opengles2 whereas glx gears uses opengl if available [16:13] plasma active ..what does that do anyway ...i don't see thepoint of it [16:13] BluesKaj: KDE for Touch screen based devices [16:13] oh tablets [16:13] yep [16:13] ok I forgot. [16:14] I managed to boot ubuntu on my transformer, now running precise and unity, but can't get active started [16:14] probably because I'm missing graphics drivers [16:15] yeah, I have to to use hi cpu and hi graphics on this monitor in order for the root apps to show proper sized fonts etc in systemsettings [16:17] :D [16:17] debfx: scidavis appears to have GLu header problems with Qt4.8. It would be nice if you could have a look at it. [16:18] I think it'd be worth uploading that and the patch in Debian Bug #654265 to experimental and then syncing. [16:18] Debian bug 654265 in scidavis "scidavis: FTBFS on armel/armhf: src/PythonScripting.cpp:60:28: fatal error: sipAPIscidavis.h: No such file or directory" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/654265 [16:18] (I'll sponsor if you'll figure out the fix) [16:20] Riddell: 13 vs 5 on the poll [16:23] Quintasan: ping [16:24] Quintasan: were you able to run plasma active? [16:25] ( on your transformer ) [16:33] rbelem: ok so I can start plasma desktop just fine, but plasma active does not start [16:43] shadeslayer: use unity! *ducks* [16:43] actually, that's what I was using earlier :P [16:44] rbelem: Riddell startactive log, could either of you tell me why startkde works but startactive just gives me a blank screen ? [16:44] it shows me the splash but then blanks out [16:50] erm .. the log is here : http://paste.kde.org/446240 [16:50] heh, cant even register clicks [16:51] ScottK: /usr/include/qwtplot3d-qt4/qwt3d_openglhelper.h:67:31: error: 'gluErrorString' was not declared in this scope [16:51] sounds like a bug in qwt3d [16:52] OK. [16:54] debfx: Care to fix that then? There's no fix (or even bug) for it in Debian. [17:15] in fact qwtplot3d FTBFS with Qt 4.8 [17:26] I guess it needs adding to http://wiki.debian.org/QtMultiarchTransition then as it's got a mix of multiarch and 4.8 things. [17:36] ScottK: I haven't added new packages to the wiki as it just duplicates the usertag bug overview [17:37] debfx: OK. How about adding the link to that to the wiki page then. [17:37] it's already there [17:37] * ScottK look again [17:37] Sure enough. Thanks. [17:38] patch for qwtplot3d sent [17:39] if only the BTS wasn't so slow [17:47] debfx: Ubuntu upload accepted. Thanks. [18:45] debfx: scidavis still fails: http://paste.debian.net/160948/ - qwtplot3d or scidavis' fault? [18:47] ScottK: scidavis needs to link against GLU [18:48] OK, so it'll need a Qt 4.8 change too? [18:49] yes [18:52] shadeslayer, did you install kubuntu-active-default-settings? [18:52] afaik yes [18:52] rbelem: it's installed [18:52] shadeslayer, it should work well [18:53] shadeslayer, at least it was working fine on virtualbox [18:53] hmm [18:53] I dunno, could be the drivers, but then standard desktop KDE starts just fine [18:53] shadeslayer, is 3d acceleration working? [18:53] nope [18:54] I need to port the GLES drivers from nvidia's L4T release to the kernel that my install is using [18:54] shadeslayer, maybe that's the issue [18:54] and I have absolutely no idea how to do that :P [18:54] rbelem: I think so too [18:54] :-D [18:55] shadeslayer, i'm working now to finish the kwin for active [18:55] oh awesome [18:56] shadeslayer, i backported the two needed patches, but only one is being applied for now [18:57] rbelem: there's also the issue of the transformer having only 8MB's for the kernel [19:01] shadeslayer, ouch... [19:02] shadeslayer, it needs a simple kernel to boot the main kernel [19:04] idk .. haven't looked into it alot === koolhead17|away is now known as koolhead17 [19:40] Ping jjesse. (: === vivek is now known as Guest63040 [20:17] littlegirl: hi [20:17] how are the docs getting on [20:17] Darkwing said he'd package them have you noticed any sign of that? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:28] Riddell: No, but I've pushed a couple of more changes since the doc freeze. [20:29] heya Riddell [20:31] Riddell, i think we need one more package to kde-window-manager http://paste.kde.org/446288/ [20:31] Riddell, or we move the #common block to kde-window-manager-data? [20:45] rbelem: those files under #common are binary, packages called -data are only for arch independent files [20:45] so if they need to be shared find a good name for another shared package [20:50] Riddell, they look like plugins, right? the package could be kde-window-manager-plugins? [20:51] mgraesslin, ^ [20:51] :-) [20:52] rbelem: yes I think so [20:53] rbelem: plugins will have a .desktop file to go with them, make sure the .so and the .desktop file are both in the same package [20:53] sweet :-) [20:53] oki [21:02] Riddell, hum... i dont know why but kde-window-manager-plugins is not sounding right to me :-( [21:05] but they are plugins... === pvivek_ is now known as pvivek [21:40] rbelem: kde-window-manager-common ? [21:40] rbelem: kde-window-manager-common-plugins ? [21:40] I wonder why debian changed it to kde-window-manager from kwin [21:46] It makes way less sense now that kde is people. [21:49] Probably to make more semantic. [21:49] Like gnome-window-manager, unity-window-manager, x-window-manager, etc. [22:04] Riddell: Having issues with xml2po... trying to figure it out with the other doc guys [22:07] Darkwing: mm, docbook tools are never friendly to use [22:07] Yeah I know. [22:08] I've let the Ubuntu Documentation team know... I kinda got yelled at for being too proactive and not waiting for Ubuntu Docs to submit everything. [22:08] To the translators that is. So, we shall see what happens. [22:20] LibreOffice Writer - start a new file, insert a new form field, can you double click on it to open up the form controls dialog? [22:20] with precise ^^ [22:22] Darkwing, do you have a preference for either "file system" or "filesystem" in the docs? Both are used, and I'd like to pick one for all of them. (: [22:23] Also, do you prefer Adobe or Adobe where Adobe is just an example? [22:25] bug 964838 - if you try what i asked above and it doesn't work, i filed a report on it [22:25] Launchpad bug 964838 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LO Writer - form control editing doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964838 [23:45] anyone in here still using Oneiric? [23:49] * littlegirl uses Lucid.