[00:00] <Musaab> how do i get Quassel to autojoin and add favorites
[00:01] <Musaab> for channels?
[00:15] <ludlow> whats a good mp3 player for kubuntu?
[00:16] <ludlow> I just removed some bloated one and now using dragon player for now
[00:16] <nancy--> Riddell,  <UsageValue>54334315944</UsageValue>           how much gig is it?
[00:17] <szal> best GUI audio player -> Audacious
[00:18] <szal> though the *buntu version is far from up-to-date
[00:18] <ludlow> szal, can I get it from the package store?
[00:18] <ludlow> installing now
[00:19] <Sentynel> nancy--: that's a value in bytes
[00:19] <nancy--> ya
[00:20] <nancy--> 54334315944/1024/1024/1024=50,602775i have used 50 gigs?but i had 15gig  limit in free tier.
[00:21] <j2> ludlow: Good is relative
[00:21] <tbruff13> can someone help me with an Kubuntu issue please
[00:21] <DasKreech> tbruff13: I suppose someone can
[00:21] <tbruff13> DasKreech, hey
[00:21] <Sentynel> nancy--: in that case you'll be paying for the bandwidth over the free limit
[00:22] <DasKreech> If they are here or not is a different matter
[00:22] <tbruff13> DasKreech, okay i have figured out why most of my keyboard shortcuts do not work in pithos and gmusicbrowser
[00:22] <DasKreech> Sentynel, nancy--: what's the query about EC2 about? Ubuntu ships with EC2 aware tools?
[00:22] <tbruff13> DasKreech, they rely on a package called gnome-settings daemon
[00:22] <DasKreech> tbruff13: instead of dbus?
[00:23] <tbruff13> DasKreech, i do not know what instead of it could rely on
[00:23] <tbruff13> I just know what they plugin for gmusicbrower says
[00:23] <nancy--> i didnt see the bandwidth change in the activity or my bills. (just a charge for elastic ip)
[00:23] <tbruff13> as far as pithos
[00:23] <tbruff13> i am not sure
[00:23] <nancy--> Sentynel,  DasKreech
[00:29] <tbruff13> DasKreech, any ideas
[00:30] <DasKreech> tbruff13: You haven't asked anything yet so I'm not sure what path my ideas should traverse
[00:31] <tbruff13> DasKreech, how do i make these program that request gnome-settings daemon work in KDE?
[00:34] <yofel> tbruff13: install gnome-settings-daemon then?
[00:35] <tbruff13> yofel, if i install it and try to run it
[00:35] <tbruff13> it says an error
[00:36] <tbruff13> that equates to you cannot have two shortcut systems running at the same time
[00:36] <tbruff13> i will try again
[00:36] <yofel> ah, no idea how to resolve that
[00:39] <tbruff13> yofel, here is a pastebin http://pastebin.com/SeLRemdG
[00:40] <tbruff13> yofel, is there any way to make KDE play nice with applications that request gnome-settings-daemon
[00:40] <tbruff13> maybe a plugin or package that could forward the request to what ever settings daemon kde uses
[00:41] <yofel> tbruff13: for one, gnome-settings-daemon is a user process, please don't start it with sudo
[00:42] <tbruff13> yofel, okay
[00:42] <antonio___> How can I install oxygen-transparent?
[00:42] <tbruff13> i have to logout of x then
[00:42] <DasKreech> tbruff13: give them gnome-settings-daemon or patch them ?
[00:42] <yofel> tbruff13: why?
[00:42] <tbruff13> because the process will not end
[00:42] <yofel> tbruff13: kill it?
[00:42] <tbruff13> oh duh
[00:42] <tbruff13> sorry lol im tired today bad
[00:42] <yofel> heh
[00:43] <darbe> hi
[00:43] <DasKreech> tbruff13: though really they should register themselves with dbus and then let whatever settings manager is available handle them
[00:43] <darbe> how can I add content to pdf file?
[00:43] <DasKreech> darbe: LaTEX?
[00:43] <tbruff13> DasKreech, could i force this registration
[00:44] <darbe> DasKreech: I have created pdf file
[00:44] <DasKreech> tbruff13: erm.. perhaps. What does pithos and gmusicbrowser do?
[00:45] <yofel> antonio___: open system settings, workspace appearance
[00:45] <yofel> antonio___: in window decorations click on get new decorations and search for oxygen transparent there
[00:46] <tbruff13> can you guys please repeat what you said i got disconnected
[00:48] <tbruff13> DasKreech, gmusicbroser is just a music application and pithos connects to pandora and plays music
[00:48] <darbe> cannnot I add content an exist pdf file?
[00:48] <tbruff13> DasKreech, the same shortcut keys worked for both applications in gnome
[00:49] <tbruff13> DasKreech, yofel i am heading over to #KDE as well okay
[00:52] <tbruff13> DasKreech, can you guys see my posts? am i connected
[00:59] <amesha> all of my menu bars have suddenly disappeared
[00:59] <amesha> how do i get them back?
[01:03] <amesha> please?
[01:06] <DasKreech> amesha: try ctrl+M
[01:06] <amesha> just anywhere?
[01:06] <DasKreech> tbruff13: I can see them
[01:07] <amesha> not working :-(
[01:07] <DasKreech> amesha: I may need more context. What menu bars are you talking about?
[01:07] <tbruff13> DasKreech, you can see what
[01:08] <amesha> file, edit, etc.
[01:08] <DasKreech> tbruff13: posts
[01:08] <DasKreech> amesha: on which application ?
[01:08] <amesha> on all windows, gone
[01:08] <tbruff13> what posts
[01:08] <amesha> i open a new application and they're not there either
[01:08] <DasKreech> 19:52 < tbruff13> DasKreech, can you guys see my posts? am i connected
[01:08] <amesha> alt+anything doesn't do anything
[01:08] <tbruff13> DasKreech, oh thanks
[01:09] <DasKreech> amesha: Ah. and you can move the windwos around?
[01:09] <tbruff13> I figured out i was connected when she started posting
[01:09] <amesha> yes, there is a titlebar
[01:09] <amesha> i can close them
[01:09] <DasKreech> amesha: and ctrl+M doesn't do anythng?
[01:09] <amesha> maximize and minimize
[01:09] <amesha> nope, nothing
[01:09] <DasKreech> amesha: what were you doing when they vanished?
[01:10] <DasKreech> tbruff13: I might browse the dbus tree to see if those applications register themselves.
[01:11] <DasKreech> you can just write simple shell scripts to control them through shortcuts if they do
[01:11] <DasKreech> amesha: what were you doing when they vanished?
[01:11] <tbruff13> DasKreech, i do not know how to do that man I will try though
[01:11] <amesha> i killed an application that wasn't responding, and it seems that i got logged out
[01:11] <amesha> i logged back in and they were gone
[01:12] <DasKreech> amesha: oh dear. How did you kill the application?
[01:12] <tbruff13> amesha, what application
[01:12] <DasKreech> tbruff13: don't know how to do which part?
[01:12] <DasKreech> yofel: ping
[01:13] <amesha> i clicked the close button, it didn't respond for a while and kwin asked if i wanted to kill it so i said yes
[01:13] <amesha> the application was anki
[01:13] <yofel> DasKreech: pong?
[01:13] <amesha> although it was a plugin window that wasn't responding
[01:14] <tbruff13> DasKreech, how to pull up a dbus tree or read it
[01:14] <tbruff13> I am working on it
[01:14] <tbruff13> be nice to learn
[01:14] <DasKreech> yofel: Would qdbus show up gnome registered dbus commands?
[01:14] <DasKreech> amesha: hmm that shouldn't log you out
[01:14] <yofel> DasKreech: it should show the full dbus tree, including gnome
[01:14] <amesha> when i open something as root with kdesudo i have a menu bar
[01:15] <DasKreech> yofel: ok thanks that is what I thought
[01:15] <DasKreech> tbruff13: try qdbus from the konsole
[01:15] <tbruff13> okay
[01:15] <DasKreech> amesha: so it's a kde setting for your user then
[01:16] <amesha> yes
[01:16] <tbruff13> DasKreech, here is :1.100
[01:16] <tbruff13>  org.gmusicbrowser
[01:16] <tbruff13>  org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.gmusicbrowser
[01:16] <amesha> what setting though?
[01:16] <tbruff13> gmusicbrowser is there
[01:16] <amesha> i couldn't find anything in the settings that i looked at
[01:17] <tbruff13> DasKreech,  here is pithos :1.64
[01:17] <tbruff13>  net.kevinmehall.Pithos
[01:17] <tbruff13>  org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.pithos
[01:20] <DasKreech> amesha: I thnk it may not be a GUI setting
[01:20] <DasKreech> Or rather a haywire application of a GUI setting
[01:21] <tbruff13> DasKreech, http://wiki.gmusicbrowser.org/doku.php?id=dbus_api
[01:21] <DasKreech> tbruff13: great :)
[01:21] <tbruff13> here is a setting that list dbus commands for gmusicbrowser
[01:21] <tbruff13> how do i configure kde to bind these to certain keys
[01:23] <tbruff13> DasKreech, looks like i can just enter the dbus command into khotkeys and bind
[01:23] <tbruff13> it
[01:24] <DasKreech> tbruff13: yep :)
[01:24] <DasKreech> amesha: oh didn't see you leave
[01:24] <tbruff13> DasKreech, can you answer one more question
[01:24] <DasKreech> tbruff13: Yes, That was the question.
[01:24] <tbruff13> DasKreech, ha ha very funny
[01:24] <amesha> i seem to be getting kicked off regularly for some reason
[01:24]  * DasKreech bows
[01:24] <DasKreech> and Good night!
[01:25] <amesha> did you say something while i was gone?
[01:25] <DasKreech> amesha: I thnk it may not be a GUI setting
[01:25] <tbruff13> DasKreech, if i bind the key fn+f12 in gmusicbrowser can i still bind it for pithos as well
[01:25] <DasKreech> Or rather a haywire application of a GUI setting
[01:25] <amesha> okay, any idea how to fix it?
[01:25] <DasKreech> tbruff13: long as they are not there at the same time. You may wnat to build a small shell script that can differentiate between the two and then bind to that
[01:26] <DasKreech> no so I'll ping yofel again
[01:26] <yofel> lol
[01:26] <tbruff13> amesha, what version of kde
[01:26] <DasKreech> yofel: Any idea why all KDE applications would lose the file-edit menu?
[01:27] <DasKreech> Ctrl+M doesn't rectify
[01:27] <DasKreech> occured post Xorg umm lets say crash
[01:27] <amesha> i could try logging out and logging in again
[01:28] <DasKreech> opening applications in another user works
[01:28] <yofel> hm, no sorry, if ctrl+m doesn't show it then I don't know what's wrong either
[01:28] <DasKreech> I'd try rebooting or a runlevel bounce
[01:29] <amesha> i could delete my ~/.kde but i'd much rather not
[01:29] <yofel> ctrl+m IS still assigned as show menubar shortcut?
[01:29] <DasKreech> yofel: I'm trying to think if there is a setting that would move them ala a global menu bar
[01:30] <DasKreech> amesha: you can just move it to a new name
[01:30] <DasKreech> yofel: Oh hmm good question
[01:30] <amesha> right, i'd still rather not
[01:30] <DasKreech> amesha: :-)
[01:30] <amesha> let me check about ctrl+m
[01:31] <amesha> yes ctrl+m is defined as show menubar in the system settings
[01:33] <amesha> i tried changing it to something different and then using the new shortcut and it still doesn't do anything
[01:36] <amesha> it looks like it's only affecting qt and gtk applications
[01:36] <amesha> others have their menubar
[01:39] <DasKreech> amesha: so firefox has no menu?
[01:40] <amesha> emacs has a menu, idle (a tk app) has a menu
[01:40] <jalcine> There's a package to provide global menu support for Firefox in the repos, no?
[02:16] <DasKreech> amesha: what are you trying?
[02:30] <kuanger> hello everyone, is there have someone know chinese?
[02:50] <avihay> !cn|kuanger
[03:14] <tbruff13> DasKreech, there was no dbus command to skip songs on that page
[03:14] <tbruff13> I do not understand one thing
[03:15] <tbruff13> Why do these shortcuts not work in KDE in the first place
[03:35] <DasKreech> tbruff13: you have to register with whatever is capturing the commands
[03:35] <tbruff13> DasKreech, huh
[03:35] <tbruff13> I am going to file bugs
[03:35] <tbruff13> and junk
[04:10] <D|2aG00n> hola
[04:44] <DasKreech> hi
[05:25] <c2tarun> Hi friends, Is there any way to block websites on kubuntu? apart from editing /etc/hosts?
[05:34] <EvilResistance> c2tarun,  block outbound traffic with iptables (or a firewall, like ufw, or something that ships with Kubuntu), thereby blocking traffic to websites
[05:34] <EvilResistance> you could also set exemptions as needed via this same method
[05:35] <EvilResistance> that second method, however, is extraordinarily rigid, that is to say allows absolutely no exceptions other than those configured by yourself
[05:36] <EvilResistance> if i may ask, what extent of website blocking were you looking for?
[05:36] <EvilResistance> something like a parental controls system?
[05:36] <c2tarun> EvilResistance, I want to block a particular website.
[05:36] <EvilResistance> c2tarun, can i privmsg you?
[05:36] <EvilResistance> just for a sec
[05:36]  * c2tarun hates when friends waste there valuable time on using fb on my laptop
[05:36] <EvilResistance> lol
[05:36] <c2tarun> sure
[05:36] <EvilResistance> so you want to block facebook
[05:36] <c2tarun> yup :|
[05:37] <EvilResistance> well, that's semi-easy...
[05:37] <EvilResistance> (emphasis on semi)
[05:37] <c2tarun> how??
[05:38] <EvilResistance> lemme dabble around in my system, i want to check a few things first
[05:38] <c2tarun> sure :)
[05:38] <EvilResistance> (make sure i remember how to do this without screwing all outbound inet traffic :P)
[05:39] <EvilResistance> bleh, i'll need to boot to *nix, (i'm on my windows system atm)
[05:41] <c2tarun> EvilResistance, sure, I'll wait :)
[05:42] <EvilResistance> c2tarun, which Kubuntu?  10.04?  11.10?  etc.
[05:43] <c2tarun> 11.10, is there any difference?
[05:43] <EvilResistance> no, just wanted to make sure it was recent ;P
[05:44] <EvilResistance> c2tarun, incoming /query
[05:45] <c2tarun> :)
[05:52] <EvilResistance> !notunity > c2tarun
[06:28] <user> Hi All
[06:29] <user> isthis possible: over one server connect to more than 1 machine in local network
[06:30] <user> all ports
[07:08] <giantpune> hi, do you guys have any suggestions for any video/movie "manager" software that plays nicely with kde?  basically i have a tv connected to the computer and i would like guests to be able to see the imdb/rotten tomato info and stuff like that
[07:08] <giantpune> i tried xbmc but the mouse tracking stuff was painful to use
[07:13] <Denis_Lobanov> is this possible: over one server connect to more than 1 machine in local network
[07:43] <[fade]> hi there, got 11.04, when i lock my laptop, after 10 minutes monitor should go to standby, but backlight is always on
[07:43] <[fade]> power settings are ok
[07:44] <[fade]> i tried searching for some solution, but prooven much harder than initialy thought
[07:54] <kuanger> 有中国的吗？
[07:54] <[fade]> sure kuanger
[07:55] <kuanger> ……说句中国话
[08:36] <lordievader> good morning
[10:02] <punchedPeace_> any one has already compiled kmymoney?
[10:15] <PaulW2U> punchedPeace_: what version are you looking for, 4.62?
[11:11] <Faustus> so what's the future of Kubuntu now that canonical has axed financial support?
[11:52] <dizopsin> hi... I just upgraded to Kubuntu 11.10 and apparently window size of applications isn't remembered anymore. I'm pretty sure the previous version did this. (for example, resizing dolphin, closing it, reopening it results in different window size than when closed).
[11:52] <dizopsin> is there a way to get back to the old behavior?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:05] <lordievader> morning
[13:31] <Scunizi> Morning all :) .. for some reason the font rendition in a terminal in kubuntu isn't as smooth/pleasing/ as easy to read, as a gtk terminal window in ubuntu.  Is there a way to change this?  Does it have to do with font choice or how the system displays fonts?
[13:32] <lordievader> There is
[13:32] <lordievader> In konsole go to Settings -> Current Profile
[13:32] <lordievader> Then the Appearance tab
[13:33] <lordievader> And click Edit Font
[13:34] <Scunizi> lordievader: thanks.. I'm having an issue finding Current Profile in Settings.  In which group is that?
[13:35] <lordievader> Scunizi: Euhh do you have your konsole window open?
[13:37] <Scunizi> lordievader: (face palm). I was looking in "Setting" off the menu system and have irssi running in Guake so I totally overlooked, looking in an actual terminal window.
[13:37] <lordievader> Lol
[13:37] <lordievader> Well it's just in the konsole window
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Scunizi,  current profile>appearance tab
[13:38] <BluesKaj> settings>current profile>appearance tab
[13:38] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[13:42] <Scunizi> lordievader: my konsole window doesn't have much of a menu structure.. nothing that you've mentioned.  I see that type of menu in a gtk terminal window but nothing like that off the kde konsole window.  Just the menu/dot in the upper left with some options.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, if you don't see the menubar , ctrl+shift+M
[13:43] <lordievader> Hey thx blues didn't know that :)
[13:43] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: wow.. I had no idea that existed.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> yea lordievader, right clicking in the terminal shows that ,,,I also leqarbed the hard way
[13:44] <BluesKaj> er learned
[13:44] <lordievader> :P
[13:47] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: lordievader : got it.  Thanks.  I feel like an idiot.  I should have tried the right mouse click in the window as well ah-la XFCE
[13:47] <lordievader> hey that is what we are here for!
[13:48] <BluesKaj> the right click dialog is your friend , most of the time :)
[13:48] <Scunizi> lordievader: and good that I caught you too!  I'm typically on an dasking questions around 7pm Pacific Time and all is quiet
[13:49] <Scunizi> dasking=asking
[13:49] <lordievader> Really? i can see that being annoying...
[13:49] <BluesKaj> early there
[13:50] <BluesKaj> 9:50 AM here in the east
[13:50] <Scunizi> right now it is.. some days I just have to get out of bed and it's typically between 4am and 6am.. I hate those days.
[13:51] <Scunizi> no rhyme or reason why I wake up then but when I do I can't just lye there
[13:51] <lordievader> Both in the u.s.?
[13:51] <Scunizi> Southern California here.
[13:52] <lordievader> Sounds nice
[13:52] <BluesKaj> yup, hate waking up in the dark at 6AM , so I just make coffee and chat in here..I'm in Ontario , 200mi N of Torornto
[13:53] <lordievader> Well i am in Holland :)
[13:53] <BluesKaj> err Toronto ,,,we love mispelling it
[13:54] <Scunizi> What time is it in Holland right now?
[13:54] <lordievader> jup typos are fun....
[13:54] <lordievader> on my fuzzy clock (love that clock) its "Four o'clock"
[13:55] <BluesKaj> early spring here , the snow just melted... was a pretty mild winter for our area...winter sports were practically non-existent
[13:55] <Scunizi> the day's early yet!  Never made it to Holland.  I spent 3 years in Germany and 2 in Italy, cruzed all over Europe via train, bus, tram etc.  Had lots of fun
[13:56] <BluesKaj> the offtopic cops will be her soon :)
[13:56] <BluesKaj> here
[13:56] <lordievader> lol
[13:56] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: it was in the 70's yesterday here LOLOLOL
[13:56] <lordievader> ok slightly more ontopic, is it possible to have open applications bound to activities?
[13:57] <lordievader> kinda like the virtual desktops?
[13:57] <Scunizi> good question.. I haven't played with activities..
[13:57] <BluesKaj> yeah , we had 70sF for about 10 days ...50s now..which is fine for yardwork etc
[13:58] <lordievader> Me neither, this is my second day using kde as main window manager.
[13:58] <BluesKaj> yeah , the activities options "reason for being" ecapes me
[13:58] <Scunizi> what's the link for the updated KDE packages?  The ppa I mean
[13:58] <BluesKaj> escapes me
[13:59] <lordievader> Euhh
[13:59] <lordievader> Scunizi: did you mean this one:
[13:59] <Scunizi> lordievader: I just can't stand unity on a dual monitor desktop setup.. on my laptop it's fine but a bit clunky for me.
[13:59] <lordievader> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[14:00] <lordievader> I just can't stand unity, on one monitor or 2...
[14:00] <Scunizi> that could be it.. is this the one that's used to upgrade kde desktop to 4.8.xx
[14:00] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:00] <Scunizi> that's it.
[14:00] <lordievader> backport is basically unsupported and unstable newer versions.
[14:01] <Scunizi> you're right .. typically that would be true but it's a bit different with the kde desktop
[14:02] <lordievader> is it?
[14:02] <lordievader> in my experience kde is a bit more delicate than gnome, one package update can screw up the system...
[14:03] <BluesKaj> I'm running 12.04/kde 4.8.1 and so far it's really quite stable
[14:03] <lordievader> That is nice
[14:03] <Scunizi> got the same on my desktop and it's smooth..
[14:03] <lordievader> It is now in a beta stage right?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:04] <BluesKaj> official release in a month or so
[14:04] <lordievader> Ah, I had the alpha version installed for a few weeks that one was also suprisingly stable.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> LTS as well
[14:04] <Scunizi> what I really like is some of the window management.. two open windows when you drag them to the edges of the screen you can drop them 1/2 screen 1/4 etc
[14:05] <lordievader> the version that i am running (11.10) has that too...
[14:06] <Scunizi> although it's a little touchy trying to get the "outline" to show up for 1/2 screen
[14:07] <lordievader> I have it setup that i can drag windows to the next virtual desktop, so that makes it even more difficult
[14:07] <Scunizi> yes that would make it a bit more problemmatic :)
[14:08] <lordievader> the space to activate the feature should be larger
[14:09] <BluesKaj> in the taskbar icon right click and the page can be moved to a different desktop
[14:10] <BluesKaj> page/app whatever
[14:10] <BluesKaj> I guess most already know about that feature
[14:15] <lordievader>  Need to get some food, ttyl
[14:22] <Scunizi> wow.. I was doing the backport updates and the system froze. I had to do a dpkg -a and -f to fix the system and continue with the update..
[14:26] <Scunizi> y
[14:58] <markit> hi, I've kubuntu 12.04, I've noticed that aptitude -d full-upgrade, with 0 packets to install, keeps writing to HD like a mad! any idea?
[14:59] <markit> I've to use ^C after a while...
[14:59] <lordievader> Do you get the same result when doing the same with apt-get?
[15:00] <markit> lsof shows a lot of /var/lock usage
[15:00] <markit> lordievader: what is the syntax for the same feature?
[15:01] <lordievader> markit: I believe it was: apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:01] <markit> urgh, ok
[15:01] <lordievader> or are you just trying to update packages?
[15:01] <markit> no, returns to the prompt imediatly
[15:02] <markit> lordievader: aptitude introduced "full-upgrade" to upgrade packages, also versions, without triggering the dist version upgrade
[15:02] <BluesKaj> don't run full upgrade
[15:02] <markit> BluesKaj: it has to work, it did since long time, it's a bug
[15:02] <BluesKaj> on bts dist-upgrade
[15:02] <BluesKaj> err betas
[15:03] <markit> i don't want to do a dist upgrade, just a full-upgrade like I'm used to do since long long time
[15:03] <lordievader> so you are just trying to update packages?
[15:03] <markit> but the point is that looks buggy
[15:03] <markit> lordievader: sure
[15:03] <markit> anyone can confirm this bug?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> yeah , it's a devel release ...dist is best
[15:03] <lordievader> Ah you can do that with "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:04] <markit> BluesKaj: dist is to jump from one version to another, I'm already in Precise 12.04
[15:04] <markit> lordievader: I'm here to have confirm of the bug
[15:04] <markit> don't want to use apt-get, just have aptitude fixed
[15:04] <markit> :)
[15:05] <lordievader> ah, haven't said a thing. I rarely use aptitude myself so that is why i suggested it.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> no it's not , markit , dist is for upgrading apps with the the releas , it's no longer used to upgrade to the newer release , do-release-uypgrade does that now
[15:05] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade rather
[15:06] <lordievader> really? It seems my knowlege is old -.-
[15:06] <markit> yep, in debian dist-upgrade works, in ubuntu they have introduced that script
[15:06] <markit> dist-upgrade in ubuntu fails miserably
[15:06] <BluesKaj> distupgrade will upgrade kde if you have the backports ppas fo example
[15:06] <markit> BluesKaj: also full-upgrade, trust me :)
[15:07] <BluesKaj> this damn KB is going out the window soon
[15:07] <markit> anyway, I've to run, hope some dev will catch my rant and fix it, thanks you all :)
[15:07] <lordievader> KB?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> no markit not full upgrade ..that's never been advised by anyone that i can remember , just run dist-upgrade
[15:08] <BluesKaj> KB=keyboard, lordievader
[15:08] <lordievader> BluesKaj: he already left
[15:09] <BluesKaj> yeah ...gigures
[15:09] <BluesKaj> figures
[15:09] <lordievader> BluesKaj: ah, in microsoft terms its quite something else XD
[15:09] <lordievader> what is wrong with it anyhow?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> full-upgrade is iffy and old, not sure it's even doing what it's supposed to
[15:11] <lordievader> well it looks like it doesn't, probably the reason markit came here
[15:14] <BluesKaj> aptitude isn't up to date either ..I used it for yrs , but lately apt-get has been developed to surpass aptitudes capabilities , especially in terms of drawing in the correct dependencies
[15:14] <aguitel> where i can find steps to run faster kubuntu ?
[15:15] <lordievader> apt-get is quite nice, never bothered to use aptitude, apt-get does all i need it to do
[15:15] <lordievader> here is a ubuntu guide for speed, not sure if it actually works though... http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-speed-up-ubuntu.html
[15:22] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  have you tried that tutorial ?
[15:22] <lordievader> yea? I have
[15:22] <BluesKaj> and?
[15:23] <lordievader> As i said, I don't know if it actually works, doesn't seem much faster...
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ok , maybe your machine is new o it won't make much diff
[15:23] <BluesKaj> so
[15:24] <BluesKaj> I tried a couple of the commands ..didn't bother with swap
[15:24] <lordievader> Nah my machine is now 3-4 years old or something, Athlon 64 X2
[15:24] <BluesKaj> same as mine
[15:25] <lordievader> I didn't bother with the services, that would probably make some impact.
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I added the preload and fstab line
[15:25] <BluesKaj> gonna reboot justto check
[15:29] <lordievader> And?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> shrug ...can't tell :)
[15:30] <lordievader> I had the same thing :P
[15:31] <BluesKaj> we have the same cpu
[15:31] <BluesKaj> 3G Ram
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:32] <lordievader> What + number do you got? I got the 4600+, overclocked to 2.75GHz with 6GB ram :)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> not me ...no overclaocking here
[15:33] <lordievader> At first I had 2GB ram, but then I added a third screen and was constantly on 80~90% ram... so I added 4GB
[15:36] <BluesKaj> amd 5200+ here ..connected to my panasonic plasma tv thru a nvidia 7699gt , m-audio digital passthru to a HT audio receiver ...this pc is our media server
[15:37] <BluesKaj> err 7600gt
[15:37] <lordievader> your kb?
[15:37] <lordievader> :P
[15:37] <lordievader> i use an old laptop of wich the battery died as a mediacenter :)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> wireless MS KB and mouse
[15:37] <lordievader> i ment the typo :P
[15:38] <aguitel> anyone using kubuntu 12.04 beta?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> KB=keyboard
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yes aguitel
[15:38] <lordievader> nvm...
[15:38] <aguitel> BluesKaj, any tips ?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> aguitel,  any issues ?
[15:39] <aguitel> BluesKaj, some time boot normaly but some times freezy
[15:39] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  kb?
[15:40] <lordievader> Some kind of labtec keyboard, a logitech mx518 mouse, connected to a hub so i just have one cable to connect to my laptop to have all my input devices hooked up
[15:40] <aguitel> BluesKaj, i follow this steps:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889034
[15:42] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  ok , I use a MS wireless 1000 keyboard and wireless mouse
[15:50] <BluesKaj> aguitel,  which graphics card ?
[15:51] <lordievader> aguitel: nice guide, gonna try some of the stuff later
[15:52] <aguitel> BluesKaj, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[15:53] <BluesKaj> aguitel,  did you choose the recommended driver in system settings>system>additional drivers?
[15:53] <aguitel> yes
[15:55] <BluesKaj> aguitel,  and of course you've updated/upgraded/dist-upgraded regularly ?
[15:55] <aguitel> yes
[15:56] <aguitel> now the system is running fine
[15:56] <BluesKaj> upgraded to kde 4.8.1 ?
[15:57] <aguitel> the system are using kde 4.8.1
[15:58] <BluesKaj> aguitel, well then you're up to date as possibel right now , which is good :)
[15:58] <aguitel> yes
[16:08] <doda1> hi folks, i complained yesterday about missing country in kubuntu's installed, forgot to say that it was missing from the time zone configuration
[16:08] <doda1> In Europe selection, Macedonia is missing, while serbia region etc are there
[16:10] <lordievader> lets see if i can still reboot, now i have updated to backports....
[16:10] <lordievader> brb
[16:14] <lordievader> Yayy i'm still able to boot XD
[16:33] <doda1> how do i report bugs on launchpad ? :D
[16:40] <BluesKaj> doda1,  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[16:42] <doda1> BluesKaj: ah thanks
[16:42] <doda1> i searched for kubuntu bugs and on that page couldn't find a report bug button
[16:44] <BluesKaj> doda1,  it's worth joining lauchpad to reportbugs , but search for it first before filing because it may already be reported then you may find a fix
[16:52] <doda1> what is the name of the kubuntu installer ?
[17:02] <n8w> hey
[17:02] <n8w> anyone runin kubuntu via vbox?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> doda1, use sudo apt-getupdate && sudo apt-get upgrade , first , muon is the installer but it needs a fix to come down from the repos first to solve a bug
[17:03] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:04] <BluesKaj> nope , running kubuntu for real here
[17:09] <BluesKaj> n8w,  what's your issue ?
[17:12] <licensed> hey anobody uses xchat with kde?
[17:12] <licensed> my xchat it's very slow =/ i think it's because i use kde
[17:15] <doda1> BluesKaj: i mean the distro installer
[17:16] <doda1> but yeah, i'm testing the 11.10 iso, i will get 12.04 asap
[17:17] <doda1> i mean the daily builds
[17:18] <licensed> omg.. i can't compress any folder =/ my ark didn't work wtf?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> doda1,  I'm not sure what you mean , upgrade to 12.04 ?
[17:18] <doda1> licensed: what is the error that you are getting
[17:18] <n8w> BluesKaj<-- I think im on the wai to resolve my issue:)
[17:18] <doda1> and regarding xchat, try konversation :)
[17:20] <doda1> BluesKaj: nope, i don't use kubuntu, i have arch on my desktop with kde, but i'm toying around with distros and noticed that the installer doesn't offer my country when i try to set the timezone
[17:20] <licensed> doda1, i just install rar, unrar and p7zip-full packages and now works.. i'm sorry to disturb you.. and i will to try konversation
[17:20] <doda1> on the 11.10 image
[17:21] <licensed> but i think xchat it's slow because akonadi.. i just close akonadi (I didn't know what it is) and now it's fast
[17:21] <doda1> licensed: no problem :)
[17:21] <doda1> nope, xchat doesn't use akonadi at all, but if you don't use it you can disable it with a workaround
[17:22] <doda1> what are the specs of your machine ?
[17:22] <licensed> when i close akonady.. i back to xchat and all it's fast
[17:22] <licensed> i have core2duo E4500 / 2,5gb ram (no swap) / HD1,5tb
[17:23] <doda1> yeah, more than enough for kde
[17:23] <BluesKaj> !akonadi | licensed
[17:24] <doda1> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kde licensed read this, there are a lot of usefull tips to tweak kde
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !info akonadi
[17:24] <licensed> doda1, yes thank you my friend
[17:25] <doda1> no problem, you are welcome :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> licensed,  you can disable akonadi in system settings , startup&shutdown,service manager , nepomuk search module (tied to akonadi) uncheck.Then in sesion mangement , check "restore previous session" and add akonadi, nepomuk to the "applications to be excluded from sessions" text .
[17:32] <licensed> BluesKaj, cool
[17:33] <licensed> doda1, yes, you're right.. xchat it's slow again =(
[17:34] <doda1> try konversation :D
[17:34] <doda1> licensed: i guess its xchat related
[17:34] <doda1> what is slow, connecting or UI responsiveness ?
[17:35] <licensed> ui responsiveness
[17:35] <licensed> not only xchat ui, but all windows
[17:35] <licensed> very very slow
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok , jamtime ..later gents
[17:38] <licensed> i like xchat, i use some plugins and features good.. I tried quassel but i didn't like. i will try a new instance of xchat (with no plugins and no configurations).. if didn't solve, I have to change my client and i will try konversation
[17:44] <Paddy_NI> Would any of you fine people know if I can get pre-made HTML & CSS Kate snippets?
[17:44] <Paddy_NI> would love tab completion like in Gedit
[17:51] <pvivek> i would be very glad if someone can help me out. When i click get more plasma widgets, it gives me a network error and doesn't load plasma widgets at all. I am sure i have a proper network connection, i can't figure out why its not able to fetch new widgets. Any suggestions
[17:54] <hypershock> I am having an issue where the bottom of many fonts are clipped. and in popup bubbles the bottom line usually gets clipped entirely. and when moving the mouse up and down a drop down list, you can see little line artifacts in the path of the highliting. and ironically, this is faster than lubuntu and all of my x264's play very well. so is what i'm searching for a compositing issue?
[17:58] <hypershock> pvivek: are you have the issue with the same machine that you are chatting with us on now?
[17:58] <DasKreech> pvivek: What version of KDE?
[17:58] <DasKreech> hypershock: what does font:/ show ?
[18:00] <hypershock> DasKreech: oh oh, you are making feel like a n00bzx0r right now, can you be more verbose on what you mean by "font:/"?
[18:01] <valera> установил таки
[18:03] <DasKreech> hypershock: press alt+F2 and type fonts:/
[18:04] <hypershock> ok, 2 folders, personal and system
[18:05] <pvivek> hypershock: sorry for the late reply, yes the same mission, i am using 11.10
[18:05] <pvivek> DasKreech: Oneric
[18:06] <pvivek> hypershock: sorry, same *machine
[18:06] <hypershock> pvivek: got that. :)
[18:07] <hypershock> pvivek: do you modify your firewall at all?
[18:07] <hypershock> pvivek: as i am able to connect to the plasma widget repository just fine.
[18:09] <hypershock> DasKreech: it might not be the fonts at all. I think it is a compositing issue cause sometimes I get line on a dialogue, not a full one, but you  can tell the computer drew it and then if i switch screens or tabs it'll vanish away.
[18:09] <hypershock> DasKreech: I'm wondering if kwin --replace will help my situation
[18:09] <DasKreech> hypershock: Ah. Driver issue perhaps?
[18:10] <hypershock> DasKreech: possibl y. I didn't  have any driver issues under lubuntu or gnome or yukky-unity
[18:10] <pvivek> hypershock: i didn't modify any firewall settings :(
[18:11] <DasKreech> hypershock: Yes but they use the driver quite differently
[18:11] <hypershock> DasKreech: sadly, i don't have ati or nvidia, its the intel gm965m graphics system.
[18:12] <hypershock> DasKreech: hopefully we can find a solution, after all these years (about 15) kde is my new love again. :)
[18:13] <DasKreech> hypershock: Ah those are normally decent drivers
[18:13] <DasKreech> Though when they explode they blow up real good
[18:13] <DasKreech> \o/
[18:13]  * DasKreech hugs the hypershock lovefest
[18:14]  * hypershock gives DasKreech a large stout heife-veissen!
[18:15] <DasKreech> Cheers! :)
[18:15] <hypershock> pvivek: doesn't it generate a specific error when you try to connect?
[18:16] <DasKreech> I'm going to be going in and out. You can probably ask in #kwin if they can help track it down
[18:16] <hypershock> DasKreech: is that to me? and by going in and out do you mean you just dropped something? ;D
[18:17] <pvivek> hypershock: right click on panel --> panel settings --> add widgets --> get new plasma widgets --> nothing loads in the middle part of the window, at the bottom left, a red X mark with a network error towards its right comes.
[18:17] <hypershock> pvivek: what does the network error say exactly?
[18:19] <hypershock> pvivek: also, on my desktop there is an icon in the upper right, I click that and choose add-widget and then a bar pops up from the task line and then I choose "get new widgets" on the right and then i choose "download new widgets" and then my list loads. see if you can do that. i'll try your method now to see if i fail. :)
[18:20] <DasKreech> hypershock: :) somethign like that I'm trying to get something done
[18:20] <hypershock> DasKreech: ok
[18:20] <hypershock> pvivek: ok, i checked  your method and my method are basically the same method with different steps. so if we can get that text from that network error from you. :)
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[18:22] <pvivek> hypershock: Network error. (1)
[18:23] <pvivek> anyone use telepathy here?
[18:27] <pvivek> hypershock: ping
[18:27] <DasKreech> pvivek: I dont :-( one thign down on my to-do list
[18:27] <hypershock> pvivek: i'm finding some solutions for you. hold please.
[18:28]  * hypershock queues up the elevator music. do do de wa do. do do de wa do. -- that plays over and over as you go and make a sandwich --
[18:28] <pvivek> DasKreech: its quite simple , just 3 commands sudo apt-add-repository ppa:telepathy/ppa and then sudo apt-get update , and then sudo apt-get install kde-telepathy, and you're done.
[18:31] <aguitel> how install minimal kde in 12.04 ?
[18:32] <hypershock> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97685 seems to suggest that running this command "qdbus org.kde.kded /modules/networkstatus org.kde.Solid.Networking.setNetworkStatus Solid 4" might solve your problem temporarily. If it does you might want to put it in a script somewhere, but at the very least you'll be able to research your problem out further.
[18:33] <DasKreech> !info kde-minimal
[18:34] <pvivek> hypershock: thank you, will try right away.
[18:35] <hypershock> pvivek: sure thing
[18:37] <pvivek> hypershock: http://paste.kde.org/446264/
[18:38] <pvivek> hypershock: there's a blank line coming if i type the command without sudo and after that still the same error is coming
[18:40] <hypershock> pvivek: hmm, ok, i tried it and i got the same result in shell. however, now that you've run it like a Clint Eastwood movie, see if you can at least connect to the widget repository via your method.
[18:42] <pvivek> hypershock: you mean the old right click on the panel ... method right, i already tried it didn't work. I also tried your method too
[18:43] <lordievader> good evening
[18:44] <DasKreech> good evening
[18:44] <lordievader> how are you?
[18:45] <DasKreech> hungry but that is expected
[18:45] <hypershock> why is that expected?
[18:47] <lordievader> is it because it is late and you haven't eaten yet?
[18:47] <hypershock> pvivek: from shell enter $> watch "dmesg | tail"
[18:48] <hypershock> pvivek: then whle that is up try the widget thing again, hopefully some errors we can use will stream up
[18:50] <DasKreech> hypershock: I'm awake
[18:50] <DasKreech> lordievader: No I'm always hungry :)
[18:50] <lordievader> lol
[18:51] <hypershock> DasKreech: if being awake makes you hungry ... *wondering why your nick isn't jabba* ;P
[18:52] <hypershock> mine should be "Lord Planet Eater" as being alive makes me hungry! :)
[18:52] <lordievader> hmm, the sleep button in the menu seems to be broken...
[18:54] <DasKreech> lordievader: possibly. Powerdevil should be tuned in the future to hide that if your computer doesn't support sleep
[18:55] <lordievader> It is only after I updated kubuntu to the backport, before it could sleep like an angel :P
[18:56] <lordievader> hey a suspend command through the terminal seems to work... lets see if the button is working again.
[18:56] <lordievader> euhh no....
[19:03] <hypershock> pvivek: i'm at a loss. gotta do errands now. :(
[19:03] <pvivek> hypershock: sorry i didn't understand what you told, i typed that command, i didn't understand what it showed
[19:03] <cowlicks> why is it the kubuntu alt-install .iso does not install the kubuntu desktop by default?
[19:04] <hypershock> pvivek: man watch
[19:04] <hypershock> DasKreech: I ran "kwin --replace" composite problem solved. just so you know. :)
[19:11] <DasKreech> cowlicks: it should. Unless you chose the server option
[19:12] <DasKreech> lordievader: check the power settings in the system settings?
[19:13] <lordievader> ah, could it be that because i disabled the power manager service that the button does not work any more?
[19:13] <DasKreech> lordievader: ^_^ possibly
[19:15] <lordievader> DasKreech:  jups, that was the bugger, thank you :)
[19:23] <hypershock> pvivek: hey guy, that "kwin --replace &" command that I just performed, solved another problem for me, I was having muon issues with connecting to the repositories, bam no more problem. you might want to try it, wild shot it may be,b ut it might solve yoru widget repository problem too.
[19:23] <hypershock> brb, rebooting
[20:13] <Promethes> where are transcode options in Amarok 2.5 on ubuntu 11.10? Trnascoding feature is in Amarok since 2.4, so where it is?
[20:40] <DasKreech> Promethes: look at the release notes?
[20:42] <Promethes> DasKreech: i found that transcode features but when i choose custom transcoding options format list is empty
[20:51] <Sentynel> Promethes: you need ffmpeg installed for transcoding to work
[20:52] <Promethes> Sentynel: ffmpeg is installed, package name ffmpeg
[20:54] <Promethes> Sentynel: strange, i reinstalled ffmpeg package and now audio formats are available
[20:57] <Promethes> Sentynel: still transcoding is not working, no matter what audio codec i choose, files are just copied
[20:59] <Sentynel> Promethes: copying from amarok's file browser to the collection? does it work if you let it pick the automatic settings rather than custom?
[21:01] <Promethes> Sentynel: no, automatic settings and custom setting works in the same way - copying files instead transcoding the
[21:01] <Promethes> *them
[21:06] <DasKreech> Promethes: can you add in transcoding options yourself?
[21:06] <Sentynel> Promethes: is anything relevant emitted if you start amarok from the console with amarok --nofork --debug and then try and transcode?
[21:07] <Promethes> Sentynel: i tried to modify custom encoding options, but without any success
[21:09] <Scunizi> I had an issue I posted earlier with font clarity in a terminal or guake, yakuake etc.. I've just discovered it looks *much* better with font smoothing turned off for some reason.
[21:09] <Promethes> Sentynel: i am running amarok -d now, there is nothing like error or warning when i try to copy some files with transcoing
[21:10] <DasKreech> Scunizi: depends on some combination of your card/driver and monitor. That's why we have options
[21:10] <Promethes> Sentynel: maybe Amarok 2.5 is not properly compiled? i use kde backports ppa
[21:11] <Sentynel> Promethes: it shouldn't be, as it detected the transcoding options available fine, but who knows
[21:12] <Sentynel> as I say, transcoding's been rewritten since that release and should generally be a lot better
[21:19] <Promethes> is there any other tool for syncing or managing audio devices/ipods/mp3 players with transcode support?
[21:19] <Promethes> besides Amarok
[21:20] <Sentynel> I use my own script to do it; I don't know about any software
[21:20] <Sentynel> you might want to try building the current development version of amarok, as transcoding and device support have had quite a lot of work
[21:37] <almoxarife> banshee will sync and transcode
[22:06] <antonio___> How can I install the oxygen-transparent?
[22:27] <nixternal> bug 964838 - with Precise (12.04) only! - if you try what i asked in the report and it doesn't work respond as needed. thanks!
[22:48] <cowlicks> I'm using kubuntu 11.10 on a Thinkpad, how can I configure trackpoint behavior? Particularly enabling middle click drag.
[22:49] <markus_> moin
[22:53] <jalcine> cowlicks: you have "kcm-touchpad" installed?
[22:53] <jalcine> Or have the settings for touchpad config in System Settings?
[23:35] <cowlicks> jalcine: I don't see any info in the touchpad config in system settings about trackpoint.
[23:36] <jalcine> cowlicks: then install "kcm-touchpad"
[23:36] <jalcine> wait
[23:36] <jalcine> oh, hmm
[23:36] <jalcine> then I'm not sure.