[03:09] <cody-somerville> Where does Launchpad cache credentials?
[03:12] <lifeless> ssl only cookies
[09:05] <eLBati> ciao
[09:06] <eLBati> can't understand how to remove the 'development focus' from a branch
[09:07] <wgrant> eLBati: Which project, and why do you want to do it?
[09:07] <eLBati> wgrant, https://code.launchpad.net/domsense-agilebg-addons because we actually work on both lp:domsense-agilebg-addons  and lp:domsense-agilebg-addons/6.1
[09:08] <eLBati> so i dont want people think they have to propose merges on lp:domsense-agilebg-addons only
[09:09] <wgrant> eLBati: You can select the development focus series at https://launchpad.net/domsense-agilebg-addons/+edit. But you have to have exactly one series selected.
[09:10] <wgrant> You could possibly create a new series without a branch for that, but it seems odd that the two versions are treated exactly equally...
[09:10] <wgrant> That's not a situation I've ever seen before.
[09:11] <eLBati> wgrant, better if i set 6.1 for focus anyway
[09:11] <eLBati> thanks wgrant
[09:11] <wgrant> eLBati: Right, that would be the normal situation.
[09:13] <eLBati> wgrant, under 'Development focus:' i can see 'domsense-agilebg-addons trunk' too
[09:13] <hakermania> Hello! How can I delete *all* files from a PPA? (including orig.tar.gz)? I requested deletion (is this deletion done instantly?) and then tried to upload with different orig.tar.gz file and it was reject it because it there was another orig.tar.gz file with different contents
[09:13] <eLBati> but i dont have such a branch
[09:13] <wgrant> eLBati: You can have a series without a branch.
[09:14] <wgrant> eg. this is often used for planning future releases that aren't under development yet.
[09:14] <wgrant> https://launchpad.net/domsense-agilebg-addons/+series
[09:14] <eLBati> uh series right
[09:14] <wgrant> hakermania: You need to change the version of the orig.tar.gz.
[09:14] <wgrant> hakermania: You can never upload the same version with different contents; that doesn't make sense.
[09:14] <eLBati> wgrant, thanks again
[09:15] <hakermania> wgrant, well, what if you made a mistake in a stable version and you want to correct it, but the correction is so trivial that doesn't deserve a new version?
[09:16] <wgrant> hakermania: That's a *really* bad idea. How will people know if they have the buggy version?
[09:16] <wgrant> Once you release a tarball, it is extremely confusing and bad practice to release a different tarball as the same version.
[09:17] <wgrant> This does mean you often get 1.0.1 releases quickly, but that's a small price to pay for not confusing everyone.
[09:17] <hakermania> wgrant, you are right here. So should I download the already existing tarball, patch it with the change and reupload?
[09:17] <wgrant> hakermania: Are you the upstream developer?
[09:18] <hakermania> wgrant, yeah, and I never understood why or how upstream developers get rid of packaging
[09:18] <hakermania> (i hate it)
[09:18] <wgrant> hakermania: Normally the packaging isn't included in the upstream tarball.
[09:18] <hakermania> wgrant, see? all is so confusing and stuff
[09:18] <wgrant> Heh.
[09:19] <hakermania> wgrant, the upstream tarball should contain the source only?
[09:19] <wgrant> hakermania: If it's just a fix to the packaging, just reuse the existing orig.tar.gz but patch the tree before you build the source package. The diff will be included in the .diff.gz or the .debian.tar.gz.
[09:19] <wgrant> If it's not just a packaging change, you probably want to release a new orig.tar.gz with the fix, so all users can get it.
[09:20] <wgrant> hakermania: Generally, yes. That way you (and distribution maintainers) can make changes to the packaging without having to mess around with making new upstream releases.
[09:21] <hakermania> wgrant, I will release a new orig.tar.gz file probably... Let me ask you something, how an upstream developer, not related to packaging can have somebody do the packaging for him o.O ?
[09:22] <wgrant> hakermania: Eventually you get enough interested users that they just do it :)
[09:23] <hakermania> wgrant, so, I just release new versions, point to the source and somebody randomly pick up the source, build it and get the application into the repos?
[09:25] <wgrant> hakermania: You have to hope that you have sufficiently interested users, but that's how it tends to go, yes.
[09:25] <hakermania> wgrant, aren't developers interested in seeing their app in the repos themselves? So, every application with users less than Firefox is being built by upstream?
[09:27] <wgrant> hakermania: Sure, developers are often interested, but someone has to do the work. If they won't, it usually requires a user to step up and do it.
[09:29] <hakermania> wgrant, may I do a packaging question? Always when you fix something small (in code) and you change the orig.tar.gz's version you have to point it in debian/changelog or there go only packaging related bugs.?
[09:37] <wgrant> hakermania: The upstream part of the version at the top of debian/changelog has to match the orig.tar.gz version.
[09:37] <wgrant> hakermania: So when you change the orig.tar.gz you have no choice but to change the changelog as well.
[09:37] <hakermania> wgrant, I see, thanks a lot, you are very helpful :)
[09:37] <wgrant> np
[09:42] <benonsoftware> Hi, for some reason LP cannot detect my GPG key fingerprint
[09:42] <hakermania> benonsoftware, have you imported it? Or did you initially created it on the machine you are in now?
[09:43] <benonsoftware> I made it on the machine I'm on now
[09:43] <hakermania> benonsoftware, did you configure it through LP?
[09:43] <benonsoftware> What do you mean?
[09:43] <benonsoftware> I get:
[09:43] <benonsoftware> Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key
[09:43] <benonsoftware>     Did you enter your complete fingerprint correctly?
[09:43] <wgrant> benonsoftware: What's the key ID?
[09:44] <benonsoftware>  EB42CC4C
[09:46] <wgrant> benonsoftware: That's on keyserver.ubuntu.com, but it hasn't yet synced to our internal keyserver. How long ago did you upload it to keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[09:46] <wgrant> It can sometimes take a few hours to sync across, depending on load.
[09:46] <benonsoftware> oh, okies
[09:50] <hakermania> wgrant, also, another confusing thing, when am I supposed to change the 0ubuntu -> 1 <- version and when the e.g. 3.01, 3.02?
[09:54] <wgrant> hakermania: If the package isn't in Ubuntu, it's probably best to use something like -0ppaX, or -0{YOURUSERNAME}X
[09:55] <wgrant> hakermania: X increments on each packaging change, and is reset to 1 on each new upstream version.
[09:56] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#Versioning
[09:56] <wgrant> Also http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version for the policy for official Ubuntu packages.
[13:01] <vprints_laptop> hi
[13:02] <vprints_laptop> any problems eith launchpad translation system right now?
[13:02] <vprints_laptop> status page does not mention anything, but i get some wierd behavior
[13:03] <vprints_laptop> for example:
[13:03] <vprints_laptop> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gwenview/+pots/desktop-gwenview/et/+translate
[13:03] <vprints_laptop> says it is 0% translated, but it actually is 100 %
[13:04] <vprints_laptop> on some other package it also shows wrong numbers
[13:21] <erguerghii> Hello
[13:22] <jelmer> hi erguerghii
[13:22] <erguerghii> I would like to report a bug (10.10 to 12.04 Beta 1)
[13:23] <jelmer> erguerghii: sorry, I think I misunderstood.. I thought you were running into an issue that prevented you from using launchpad
[13:23] <jelmer> erguerghii: to file a bug, you do indeed need a launchpad account
[13:23] <erguerghii> :/
[13:24] <erguerghii> ok
[13:24] <erguerghii> I will try it
[13:24] <erguerghii> bye
[13:41] <haseeb> hi
[13:41] <haseeb> i am getting error "Permission denied (publickey).
[13:41] <haseeb> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist."
[13:58] <nigelb> haseeb: do you have the private key of the public key upliaded to launchpad?
[13:59] <haseeb> nigelb,  yes i uploaded it
[14:00] <nigelb> haseeb: where is the private key on your machine?
[14:00] <haseeb> nigelb, yes
[14:01] <haseeb> nigelb,  i have run this cmd "ssh -v bazaar.launchpad.net
[14:01] <haseeb> "
[14:01] <haseeb> and it says "No such Launchpad account: haseeb
[14:01] <haseeb> "
[14:04] <czajkowski> haseeb: what is your email address?
[14:04] <czajkowski> https://launchpad.net/~haseeb  as that doesnt exist
[14:11] <haseeb> czajkowski,  abdulraufhaseeb@gmail.com
[14:12] <czajkowski> haseeb: I dont see any account there on lp with that address
[14:12] <czajkowski> have you started at the beginging and created a lp ac
[14:13] <haseeb> https://launchpad.net/~abdulraufhaseeb
[14:13] <czajkowski> k
[14:16] <haseeb> czajkowski,  how to know my user name?
[14:18] <czajkowski> haseeb: you can change the display name but at present it is abdulraufhaseeb  and on irc it's haseeb
[14:18] <czajkowski> you can change your details by clicking on the pencil and editing them
[14:18] <czajkowski> <---offline now
[14:21] <haseeb> ok
[15:05] <dobey> czajkowski: for that use case btw, answer is probably "you need to run bzr launchpad-login and provide the correct launchpad username there, if it doesn't match your local username"
[15:43] <czajkowski> dobey: cheers
[19:59] <FrantiK> seriously ? ppas ? you couldn't keep the backport name ? !
[19:59] <FrantiK> grmbl
[19:59]  * FrantiK rants and depart
[20:06] <dobey> uh, ok
[20:30]  * EvilResistance is confused...
[20:31] <EvilResistance> dobey:  any idea what that guy was on about>
[20:31] <dobey> no
[20:31] <EvilResistance> me neither... wonder wth was going on in his mind... :P
[20:32] <dobey> i guess he confused the backports archive, and ppas
[20:33] <EvilResistance> indeed
[20:34] <EvilResistance> granted, I do my backporting within PPAs, but if it works, i usually request a backport accordingly...
[20:34] <EvilResistance> *shrugs*
[20:34] <EvilResistance> (it's how I got ZNC backported xD)