[03:27] <wujie> :-D
[04:40] <uBUXUBu> good morning technicians
[13:39] <titan_> hello!
[13:42] <titan_> anyone to give help here?
[13:48] <holstein> titan_: depends... just ask and see
[13:48] <titan_> need help with usb bluetooth dongle
[13:49] <holstein> you have referred to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup ? titan_
[13:50] <titan_> tried that but no help
[13:50] <titan_> I have lubuntu 11.10
[13:51] <holstein> titan_: sure.. just elaborate... is the USB device showing up in lsusb? how about the output of some of the commands at that wiki page
[13:51] <titan_> D 0c10:0000
[13:51] <titan_> this is the id i get
[13:51] <titan_> so yes is there
[13:55] <titan_> I installed gnome-vfs-obexftp
[13:56] <titan_> also installed all bluetooth related from synaptic
[13:56] <titan_> still can't
[13:56] <titan_>  get bluetooth to work
[14:01] <titan__> the usb donle is ok cause it's working good on win7
[14:01] <titan__> dongle*
[14:01] <holstein> titan__: i would try #ubuntu ...sometimes i try different live CD's to check for compatibility with other kernel versions
[14:02] <titan__> no work in l;ive cd either
[14:02] <titan__> The lubuntu cd I say
[14:02] <titan__> works great with ubuntu suse fedora or other distro
[14:03] <holstein> titan__: sure.. im saying in *other* live CD's.. the 10.04 main ubuntu... knoppix... the upcoming 12.04 release.. different kernel versions
[14:03] <holstein> titan__: ?
[14:03] <holstein> lubuntu = ubuntu
[14:03] <holstein> just customized and running LXDE instead of unity or gnome
[14:03] <titan__> I know that that's
[14:03] <titan__> that's why i get confused
[14:04] <titan__> why is not working
[14:04] <holstein> if it works in main ubuntu 11.10, and not lubuntu 11.10, then, its just a matter of figuring out what pacakges need to be installed that are in main ubuntu that are no in lubuntu
[14:04] <titan__> you're true but i donno how to fing out
[14:04] <titan__> find*
[14:05] <holstein> maybe http://lubuntu.net/tags/bluetooth would help
[14:05] <titan__> in ubuntu 11.10 is out of the box
[14:05] <titan__> no help here
[14:05] <titan__> tried that first thing
[14:06] <holstein> titan__: what thing?
[14:06] <holstein> titan__: does the device work in main ubuntu 11.10?
[14:06] <titan__> yes
[14:06] <holstein> if so, you can make it work in lubuntu
[14:06] <titan__>  with live cd
[14:06] <titan__> cause i did not made an instalkl
[14:06] <holstein> OK... then its just a matter of learning how to communicate with the hardware
[14:07] <titan__> tried http://lubuntu.net/tags/bluetooth
[14:07] <holstein> OK... i would find *anyone* in the mailing lists or forums using LXDE and bluetooth
[14:07] <share> hello
[14:08] <share> I can't connect to wireless using livecd. im using 11.10
[14:08] <holstein> i would try adding whatever GUI you use in unity
[14:08] <titan__> holstein thanks
[14:08] <share> something is WRONG
[14:08] <holstein> share: broadcom?
[14:08] <share> no, the wireless works, network manager doesnt make any connection
[14:09] <share> startx.. then.. connect to wireless AP and doesnt work
[14:09] <holstein> share: i dont think you can assume the wireless is "working" then, correct?
[14:10] <holstein> share: is this broadcom?
[14:10] <share> holstein: dude, please...
[14:10] <holstein> share: i'll be idle if you need anthing :)
[14:10] <share> the wireless works in any decent distro
[14:10] <share> it's not a driver problem!
[14:10] <share> you are pissing me off
[14:10] <holstein> share: if its not connecting right now though, its likely a driver issue
[14:11] <Toscho> hello
[14:11] <holstein> im not saying the hardare is bad
[14:11] <share> holstein: it recognizes
[14:11] <share> the wireless adapter
[14:11] <share> it shows wireless aps
[14:11] <share> looks like nm-applet is bugged
[14:11] <Toscho> when I try to start my laptop (lubuntu 11.10), it freezes after the bios-screens
[14:12] <holstein> share: OK.. in my first hand experience, i have changed drivers in those cases with decent luck
[14:12] <Toscho> what can be the reason and how can I solve this problem
[14:12] <share> I guess i should have chose Lubuntu LTS
[14:14] <share> lubuntu sucks bye
[14:34] <MrChrisDruif> holstein; share could've been a bit more polite
[14:54] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[15:02] <phillw> hi kosaidpo
[15:02] <kosaidpo> phillw: supp
[15:03] <kosaidpo> im still using 11.04
[15:03] <phillw> my usual epic fail to test something for Julien :(
[15:03] <kosaidpo> whats new in the next release ?
[15:03] <phillw> yeah, it's a paper cut in lubuntu -  a missing icon.
[15:03] <kosaidpo> fail as in how
[15:03] <kosaidpo> what you wanna do and o you get ??
[15:04] <phillw> kosaidpo: it won't even 'see' my 3G device :/
[15:04] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha kosaidpo
[15:05] <kosaidpo> phillw: as in it doesnt detect it ?? make a rule
[15:05] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: hello supp
[15:05] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; as in you can't see the icon
[15:05] <MrChrisDruif> Nothing much
[15:06] <kosaidpo> phillw: make sure it has one tho
[15:06] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: i guess the icone its not that important but i do agree still a detail to fix : ]
[15:06] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; +1 on both
[15:07] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: haaha ; ]
[15:07] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: what lubuntu version are you using ??
[15:07] <MrChrisDruif> And suddenly someone noticed that apt-xapian-index gets installed with default installation somehow
[15:08]  * MrChrisDruif uses ubuntu with gnome-shell ghehe :]
[15:08] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: apt-xapian-index what is it for ?
[15:08] <phillw> MrChrisDruif: I'll fire an email off to Julien. At least I now have 12.04 beta2 with the staging ppa installed for the boss :)
[15:08] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; synaptic and update-manager I believe
[15:09] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: i see good
[15:10] <MrChrisDruif> apt-xapian-index Reverse Depends: python-apt:i386  synaptic  packagekit-backend-aptcc  packagekit-backend-apt  goplay  fuss-launcher  ept-cache  aptitude-gtk  adept  software-center  python-apt  muon-installer  muon  aptitude
[15:10] <MrChrisDruif> At least on my system
[15:10] <kosaidpo> phillw: so its an lxpanel issue ??
[15:11]  * MrChrisDruif should try if making an icon works for fixing that bug
[15:11] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: so much dep
[15:11] <kosaidpo> lubuntu its one cool distro
[15:12] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; not depends > REVERSE depends
[15:12] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: reverse means what ??
[15:12] <MrChrisDruif> Aka: which programs depend on it
[15:12]  * kosaidpo still bad at english
[15:13] <MrChrisDruif> aptitude (among other things) depends on apt-xapian-index
[15:13] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: ahh so that axpian-apt its a dep for those packages
[15:13] <MrChrisDruif> You
[15:13] <MrChrisDruif> Yup*
[15:14] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: i dont speak engish unless in on irc rooms or forums :S
[15:14] <kosaidpo> and the bad me never think to take this to next level in my daily life :[
[15:15] <kosaidpo> haha hers a jock
[15:15] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm, it's ALL the packages in the repos that depend on it
[15:15] <MrChrisDruif> For instance, I haven't got aptitude installed but it's still listed
[15:15] <kosaidpo> on a site for android apps and they expose a windows media player
[15:15] <kosaidpo> im wonderin ho wants to pollute its device with that MS garbage :D
[15:16] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe, is it even possible to install wmp on Android?
[15:16] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: apt-get suffice me
[15:16] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow, the reason would be familiarity
[15:16] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: well yeh since its android apps site
[15:17] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo; so does it for me, I just found it odd that mentioned aptitude as reverse depend
[15:17] <kosaidpo> MrChrisDruif: agree but when you breath the freedom you never go back to the MS forest
[15:17] <MrChrisDruif> There are people that would disagree
[15:18] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow, would you mind /join #lubuntu-offtopic ? ^_^
[17:55] <thor_> phillw: BUG report. http://imagebin.org/205101 there are still no icon of driver install and LSC wont start. Made a image of it
[17:56] <thor_> It's zsync of today
[17:56] <phillw> thor_: please raise a bug report, I'm on with the http://thesii.org/Screenshot.jpg at the moment!
[17:58] <thor_> phillw i am not going to made a bug report. I am only doing it here on IRC
[17:58] <thor_> make
[17:59] <phillw> LSC is a pure lubuntu bug. and needs reporting to its creator / maintainer. Stephen is not logged on and will ne be aware of the problem unless you raise it. In which case it cannot get fixed :/
[17:59] <phillw> s/ne/not
[18:00] <phillw> thor_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs
[18:01] <thor_> phillw but libreoffice there you can make a bug report on IRC
[18:02] <phillw> thor_: I'm not running my 12.04 test rig. So I cannot raise a bug report.
[18:03] <thor_> phillw thanks
[20:45] <cordyceps> everytime I  run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade I get the response to the effect: 'everythings fine, nothing to download.' It's been like this for a couple of months. Is there something wrong here? On lubuntu-11.10
[20:49] <holstein> cordyceps: are you online? how about just sudo apt-get update
[20:50] <cordyceps> online? I guess so. Yeah, I run update OK. Just when I run upgrade, it(the terminal) says nothing to do.
[20:52] <cordyceps> my sources.list seems to cover all the bases.
[20:52] <holstein> cordyceps: run them seperately
[20:52] <holstein> run this...
[20:52] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[20:52] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <cordyceps> I do that all the time. I just wrote && here to tighten things up
[20:54] <holstein> cordyceps: im just reducing variables and trying to see what is up.. you also wrote above that you are running those as a normal users
[20:55] <cordyceps> sudo -i
[20:55] <holstein> cordyceps: if you dont mind, run those 2 commands.. separately, ... as root, and report
[20:56] <cordyceps> ok, but I have bandwidth issues; it'll be a while
[20:56] <holstein> if something is timing out, or you are not letting sudo apt-get update actually finish updating somehow, i wouldnt expect any upgrades
[20:57] <cordyceps> I got a big(for me) file coming down over the phone line right now. Can only IRC until that's done ;(
[21:01] <holstein> if i had bandwidth limitations, i would likely run the LTS's, and try and download the iso iwth the upgrades in it somewhere else off site when they are updated.. like 10.04.2, 10.04.3 for example
[21:02] <holstein> or, just not worry about it too much unless i read something about a kernel vulnerability... maybe keep the browser up to date, and flash