[00:22] <roaksoax> infinity: cool, thanks for the info I'll try either
[00:23] <roaksoax> s/either/both
[00:34] <smoser> sabdfl, thanks.
[03:50] <chelz> is there anything like a preview release of beta 2 that is bootable? (besides beta 1)
[03:50] <chelz> the daily builds i'm guessing aren't guaranteed to boot
[04:12] <ScottK> chelz: They aren't guaranteed, but AFAIK should be pretty good.
[04:12] <ScottK> I booted yesterday's dailies just fine.
[04:13] <chelz> ah alright. is there any archive of previous daily builds so i could try older ones if the latest doesn't work?
[04:14] <ScottK> Yes.  If you look at cdimage.ubuntu.com and the directory with the type of image you want, you'll see a few days worth.
[04:17] <chelz> ScottK: ahh neat, thanks
[04:17] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[07:07] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[08:27] <tumbleweed> bdrung: why did distro-info FTBFS? it test built for me...
[08:28] <tumbleweed> ah, I probably wasn't using distro-info-data 0.7
[11:19] <bdrung> tumbleweed: year 2038 bug on i386. i will fix it
[11:46] <tumbleweed> bdrung: ah :)
[13:18] <erguerghii> Hello*
[13:19] <erguerghii> I would like to report a bug, because I can't use Launchpad and Apport doesn't work.
[13:20] <jelmer> erguerghii: what about launchpad isn't working?
[13:20] <jelmer> (you might want to talk to us in #launchpad, that's a more appropriate channel than #ubuntu-devel)
[13:21] <erguerghii> jelmer: Just because I already have a account and I lost the old password and e-mail, and I want not to create a new account :/
[13:21] <erguerghii> ok for #launchpad
[15:50] <dr3mro> I know basic vala GTK / GLADE  and good experience in python GTK .. but I need to focus on one programming language to master it as I  take it as hobby only and I work as a physician but enjoy programming when I have some little free time in my vacation.... so do you suggest me continue the vala way or go python way .. for the future ot ubuntu develeopment what will be most widely used vala or python ??
[16:27] <ScottK> jelmer: Do we want to sync evolution-mapi from Debian?
[18:39] <jelmer> ScottK: not as-is, as unstable has a newer openchange that is incompatible with the current version of evolution-mapi in sid
[18:39] <ScottK> jelmer: OK.  Do we want to update samba4/openchange/evolution-mapi before release?
[18:41] <jelmer> ScottK: ideally, yes (probably would have to include ldb too though).
[18:41] <ScottK> OK.
[18:41] <ScottK> Could you prepare an FFe that explains what's needed?
[18:41] <ScottK> That seems like an area where having the latest crack for release is generally a good idea.
[18:42] <jelmer> ScottK: Yeah, I agree
[18:43] <ScottK> If you could put that together, it would be helpful.
[18:43] <jelmer> I've been holding off on that mostly for (irrational?) fear of having to deal with a large number of FFe and limited spare time
[18:43] <jelmer> *FFEs
[18:44] <jelmer> I'm happy to prepare the FFes though, and at least try.
[18:44] <ScottK> Make it one bug that explains them all together.
[18:44] <ScottK> Since it's interlinked it makes more sense to review it that way anyway.
[18:45] <jelmer> ok
[21:50] <Bluefoxicy> what do I do if reproducing a bug is doable with copyrighted content?
[21:50] <Bluefoxicy> on VLC I can watch Yu Yu Hakusho rip in english
[21:50] <Bluefoxicy> in Totem it plays in Japanese
[21:50] <Bluefoxicy> I found the sound track thing in totem, but when I switch to English it plays music, and when someone talks it mutes all audio until they shut up
[21:51] <Bluefoxicy> obviously, totem or gstreamer has no idea how to handle multiple audio tracks...
[21:51] <Bluefoxicy> ... also obviously I can't just attach non-distributable copyright material to bugs o.o
[22:03] <JanC> Bluefoxicy: I'm pretty sure that in most countries providing copyrighted content (which you have a legal copy of) directly to a developer (so not attached to a public bug report) for debugging purposes is fine
[22:04] <JanC> Bluefoxicy: alternatively, provide a very short "citation"?
[22:06] <JanC> Bluefoxicy: is it supposed to play multiple audio tracks in parallel?
[22:22] <Bluefoxicy> JanC: no it has English and Japanese voice acting for different markets
[22:26] <JanC> Bluefoxicy: hm, I've seen files with multiple audio tracks and apart from having to choose the right one manually (as Totem doesn't seem to be very clever about that) it always worked for me (not really tested on precise though)
[22:57] <lifeless> barry: mailman, storm, datetime
[22:57] <lifeless> barry: are you using postgresql ?