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knomeis there any way to limit http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds to eg. xubuntu with get parameters?09:56
knomestgraber, ^ ?09:56
knomealso, any idea why yesterdays builds of our desktop images appear at the tracker?09:59
infinityknome: Not sure, but you can just click on "Products" to disable them all, and then turn on Xubuntu.09:59
knomeinfinity, i know that :) i was just wondering because i wanted to *link* to the page but only with xubuntu images listed10:00
infinityknome: Yeah, not sure if that's doable, but stgraber will know.10:00
knometechnically, it shouldn't be too hard to implement that for Q10:00
infinityknome: As for why the most recent are in the tracker, dailies auto-post, and we haven't turned off the cronjobs yet.10:01
knome(if it's not implemented already, i mean)10:01
infinity(I imagine we'll go manual on Monday)10:01
knomeso, what should i test?10:01
infinityYou can smoketest and let us know if things are horribly broken.10:02
infinityBut we've had things like a new upstart and openssl (y'know, insignificant packages...) that would have required respins if we were in manual mode anyway.10:02
knomeheh10:03
infinityI don't recommend doing deep end-to-end testing until we go manual, but quick smoketesting is always appreciated.10:03
knomemmh.10:04
* knome zsyncs the xubuntu amd64 desktop10:04
infinity(Of course, if you're bored and have time to waste, no one will turn down end-to-end testing, just saying that if you have better things to do and want to retain your sanity, you might want to hold off until we've turned off dailies)10:06
knomeheh10:06
knomelet's say i'd like to generally see what we look like, and i can do testing meanwhile :)10:06
* infinity nods.10:06
infinityI haven't spun up a Xubuntu CD yet this cycle.10:07
infinityI actually *run* Xubuntu, but my desktop is so customized that I have no idea what the Precise defaults are looking like.10:07
knomeyou should. we tweaked pretty much everything in the graphical side ;)10:07
infinitySpeaking of, I really, really need to find the time to port the Human theme to GTK3.10:07
knomenew logo, new wallpaper, improved plymouth theme, improved lightdm theme10:08
infinity(Yes, I use Human with Xubuntu, in a mad effort to recreate my GNOME2 experience from 5 years ago)10:08
knomeimproved gtk theme... :)10:08
infinityhttp://lucifer.0c3.net/~adconrad/xubuntu.png <-- See?10:11
infinityI'm a creature of habit. :P10:11
knomeheh10:11
knomehttp://temp.knome.fi/other/shot-20120325.png10:12
knomei'm not giving up my panel layout either10:13
infinityHeh.10:13
knomebut see, our new wallpaper graciously spans even 2 monitors! :)10:13
infinityFancy.10:14
infinityDear god, you run IRC black-on-white?10:14
infinityHeathen!10:14
knomethat's our new default terminal color scheme10:15
knomesee how well that fits the theme in the other terminal window?10:15
knome(the scrollbar BG is fixed for precise, btw)10:15
infinityhttp://lucifer.0c3.net/~adconrad/terminals_should_be_black.png10:16
infinityCrazy people and their light terminals.10:17
knomeugghh, that's way too much contrast :)10:17
knomeeither you have a bad monitor or you like to hurt your eyes10:17
infinityI do a lot of computing in the dark.10:17
infinityBright screens hurt.10:17
knomei didn't say "bright screen" :)10:17
knomei said bad screen10:17
knomeactually, i said bad monitor10:18
knome;)10:18
infinityHeh.10:18
infinityAnyhow, speaking of the dark, I should sleep.10:18
infinityHappy smoketesting.10:18
knomeheh, good night :)10:18
knomeand thanks, i'm sure i will have a superfluously happy time ;)10:19
Laneyany objections to approving the zsh ffe?11:23
Laney(seeding)11:24
cjwatsoninfinity: versioned deps in udebs aren't as useful as they look, no - but d-i's packaging system isn't meant to solve all the problems13:11
cjwatsonDaviey: better to just rebuild d-i13:11
ScottKcjwatson: I assume you want this D-I upload in?14:58
skaetDaviey, looks like server amd64 has gone oversize,  what can get removed?15:09
cjwatsonScottK: yep, fixes libcrypto vs. libssl mismatch on server15:11
ScottKOK.  Accepting.15:11
ScottKDOne.15:11
cjwatsonthanks15:13
ScottKNo problem.  It was an easy diff to review ...15:14
cjwatson:-)15:14
cjwatsonskaet: bug 545790 has had the rls-p-tracking tag removed, and should no longer be on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html, but is15:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 545790 in dpkg "package PACKAGE failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '<standard output>': Success" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54579015:19
skaetcjwatson,  I'll ask it be regenerated properly on monday.   thanks.15:20
cjwatsonthanks15:21
Davieyskaet: I am aware, i started trimming on Friday.. Will finish tommohrrowh15:40
skaetThanks Daviey.  :)15:40
Davieycjwatson: confirmed rebuild solved the issue, thanks.16:06
ScottKaccepted raptor16:57
stgraberknome: it should be possible to implement but it's going to be a bit hackish :) the current filtering is done entirely with javascript + cookie17:28
stgraberknome: and it's saved in the cookie which you likely won't want to see happen when giving people a link17:29
knomestgraber, i see, but i don't think it's hackish :)17:30
phillwstgraber: we may have a regression for WiFi. I've seen it and it has been mentioned. Not sure what to raise it against. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873477 seems the nearest for it. Can you let me know what to report it against please?17:31
phillwhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ has the screen shot17:32
stgraberphillw: can you copy the screenshot somewhere public? I don't have a facebook account17:35
knomestgraber, \o/17:35
stgraberfrom what I can see on the forum, this might be a question for cyphermox17:36
phillwstgraber: I'm just grabbing it & uploading it... a couple of minutes.17:36
phillwstgraber: http://thesii.org/Screenshot.jpg17:45
phillwsorry, it dodn't want to go the 1st time!17:46
stgraberphillw: sounds like policykit/nm/... might be worth opening a bug against network-manager for now so it at least gets looked at18:02
phillwstgraber: okies, I'll get a bug raised.18:03
phillwbug 964705 created19:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 964705 in network-manager "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96470519:15
infinitycjwatson: So, even post-release, that means the answer is to rebuild d-i any time some archive/initrd skew like this happens?19:55
infinitycjwatson: That just feels inelegant. :/19:56
cjwatsoninfinity: Yes20:31
cjwatsoninfinity: Normally kernel ABI bumps get to it first anyway.  This is the first time I can recall it being a problem.20:32
infinitycjwatson: Fair enough.  Though, we've never had to worry about this ssl/crypto split before now, have we?  This is a fairly new addition.20:35
infinitycjwatson: Though, I guess we don't be doing these sorts of libssl upgrades post-release.  Security fixes in libssl tend to be pretty surgically precise and non-disruptive.20:36
cjwatsonlibssl/libcrypto have been split for years20:37
cjwatsonin udebs anyway20:37
cjwatsonPerhaps the addition is that somebody actually cares about libssl in udeb form now, rather than it being a niche thing20:38
infinitycjwatson: Well, yeah, but I get the impression Daviey's use-case is new?  Maybe not.20:38
cjwatsonNewish, yeah20:38
cjwatsonBut indeed, I'd find this kind of thing pretty ... surprising post-release20:38
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