[18:10] <Sarvatt> pheeeew, so many X bugs about the unity-3D issue. vanvugt rocks for duplicating so many of these already
[18:10] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/963633 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/963093 https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/949296 covers the vast majority of X bugs in the past week
[18:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 963633 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "Unity 5.8: Login to blank screen (all black or just wallpaper)" [Critical,Confirmed]
[18:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 963093 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "Unity 5.8: Flickering and corruption on Unity UI elements" [Critical,Confirmed]
[18:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 949296 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon always prevents suspend when proprietary nvidia drivers are used." [Medium,In progress]
[19:01] <Sarvatt> Darxus: err, your bug is with the nvidia blob, you need to use nvidia-settings to change resolutions I believe not the gnome display settings dialog?
[19:02] <Sarvatt> Darxus: i think you got caught in some bug bot wars reassigning things automatically :P
[19:04] <bjsnider> both can change resolutions
[19:05] <Sarvatt> not refresh rate though apparently, thats what i meant
[19:06] <Sarvatt> well his bug was that the gnome one shows it as an unknown monitor
[19:09] <bjsnider> it does do that
[19:45] <Darxus> Sarvatt: I was also seeing it with nouveau.
[19:45] <Darxus> Sarvatt: And I don't see it with nouveau when I boot back to oneric.
[19:46] <Darxus> Sarvatt: My problem, I believe, is that my monitor is not being detected properly.  With either driver.  
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[22:52] <RAOF> cnd: Whom do I have to bribe with beer to get 3-finger-tap-as-middle-click working again?
[22:53] <Sarvatt> RAOF: thought that was disabled intentionally to never return?
[22:53] <Sarvatt> interferes with gestures?
[22:59] <johanbr> synclient ClickFinger3=2 doesn't help?
[23:02] <Sarvatt> maybe if you ClickPad=0 first
[23:03] <Sarvatt> (me is just guessing he's referring to his magic trackpad)
[23:21] <johanbr> Speaking of multi-finger things, what's the likely culprit if geistest says "error subscribing to gestures"?  some daemon not running?
[23:23] <johanbr> RAOF, I just discovered tapping at the top right gives me middle click, I don't know if that's an acceptable substitute
[23:24] <RAOF> FREAKY!
[23:37] <RAOF> Bah.  Heaven forfend that the kernel could dump some sort of state to disc before hard-freezing.
[23:39] <bjsnider> has that ever been discussed?
[23:39] <bjsnider> it would seem like a good idea
[23:39] <bjsnider> kind of obvious
[23:39] <RAOF> The obvious trouble is: when you've hard-locked, you're broken.
[23:39] <bjsnider> the windows kernel does that
[23:43] <cnd> Sarvatt, RAOF, it's disabled by default, but you can enable it with synclient TapButton3=2
[23:43] <cnd> you don't need to disable clickpad support
[23:43] <RAOF> Cool.
[23:43] <cnd> johanbr, it's probably attempting to subscribe on the root window
[23:43] <cnd> but only one utouch client can subscribe to a window at the same time
[23:43] <cnd> and if you're running unity, then unity already has a subscription
[23:44] <johanbr> cnd, ahh... 
[23:44] <cnd> so you want to use geistest with the -w option to specify a different window
[23:45] <cnd> bjsnider, there have been many attempts over the years to save state to disk when a kernel oopses
[23:45] <cnd> many of them are even in the mainline tree I think
[23:45] <cnd> one or two may be compiled into the ubuntu kernel
[23:45] <cnd> but they require manual setup
[23:45] <johanbr> I think I've seen a kernel patch that writes some state to nvram...
[23:45] <cnd> and sometimes are hardware and environment specific
[23:46] <cnd> cking actually added a patch to save a limited backtrace hash to the hw clock
[23:46] <cnd> since the hw clock is maintained across boots
[23:46] <Sarvatt> oh god that patch was so screwy
[23:46] <johanbr> oh, that's probably what I'm thinking of
[23:46] <cnd> Sarvatt, yeah, it's a really interesting piece of debug work
[23:47] <cnd> cking does crazy stuff
[23:47] <Sarvatt> it screwed up your time, completely breaking vblank timestamps next boot :)
[23:47] <cnd> like outputting console over speakers using binary code, and using a mic from another computer to turn it back into a visual console
[23:48] <cnd> or flashing your caps lock leds to diagnose suspend/resume problems
[23:48] <RAOF> Now *that's* an awesome hack.
[23:48] <cnd> RAOF, http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com/2011/08/debugging-s3-suspendresume-using.html
[23:49] <RAOF> Yeah, I know it.
[23:49] <cnd> anyways, it's still my sunday, so I'm going to stop chatting on irc and go play video games :)
[23:50] <RAOF> Excellent plan!
[23:51] <Sarvatt> on a tales of graces f break here :)
[23:54] <johanbr> Hmm, geistest refuses to register anything, though... I wonder if that's because I'm using a clickpad