[11:11] <knome> ochosi, you probably knew, but abiword loooks a bit weird. the ruler is white on gray
[12:15] <astraljava> knome: Interesting, the Terminal help bug. Anyone on to that yet, or want me to?
[12:42] <knome> astraljava, if you wish to, free to take it
[12:50] <knome> btw, i didn't see any scrollbars-on-slideshow issues
[12:56] <astraljava> I think Len also reported them having vanished by now.
[13:08] <pleia2> knome: have a draft for the testing blog post in wordpress now, just working to add Charlie's notes
[13:08] <knome> pleia2, great :)
[13:08] <knome> pleia2, i tweeted about testing yday
[13:24] <pleia2> knome: ok, blog post is ready for review
[14:09] <pleia2> knome: heading out for the day for more venue visiting, feel free to publish if you think it looks good, otherwise we can talk about it later (tomorrow?)
[15:57] <knome> pleia2, published, and tweeted
[16:00] <knome> pleia2, we definitely need to review the wiki, and docs
[16:00] <knome> pleia2, i did some wiki cleanup yesterday, but there's a lot more to do
[16:01] <knome> pleia2, also, i've tweeted three times in the last 20h
[16:14] <astraljava> knome: That's a weird one, the terminal F1 bug. If you use the string it wants to use in exo-open directly, it works. I'm building a debug build now to investigate further.
[16:14] <knome> astraljava, have you tried to just remove the # ?
[16:15] <knome> astraljava, i mean, if it has something to do with parsing the url, that # is not needed anyway...
[16:15] <knome> astraljava, and parsing it what i think it very well might have to do about, looking at the error
[16:15] <knome> astraljava, btw, what's your schedule tomorrow/tue?
[16:15] <astraljava> knome: No, like I said, it works in exo-open _with_ the hash char.
[16:17] <astraljava> I'm coming to town late tomorrow, but then the interview is at 9 am. on Tuesday, no idea about the plans for the rest of the day before the flight, yet.
[16:17] <knome> astraljava, yes, i understand, but the terminal help is clearly having problems with the # :)
[16:17] <knome> i don't know why i'm highlighting, though
[16:17] <knome> maybe we should meet somewhere?
[16:18] <knome> it would do me good to get out, and wife would like me to get out too. :)
[16:18] <astraljava> knome: Hmm... that'd be strange if it did.
[16:18] <astraljava> Yeah sure, we can have lunch, maybe?
[16:18] <knome> astraljava, did you read the error?
[16:18] <knome> sure! where are you having the interview?
[16:18] <astraljava> Downtown.
[16:18] <knome> :| i know
[16:19] <knome> but more exactly where?
[16:19] <astraljava> Heheh. :) Annankatu something, next to Funky Burger.
[16:19] <knome> heh, right, you are thinking of grabbing something there? :P
[16:19] <astraljava> Not this time, we went there when I was in Helsinki the last time.
[16:19] <knome> ok
[16:20] <knome> haven't been there, so was it any good?
[16:20] <astraljava> It was alright. But quite expensive for my current situation.
[16:20] <knome> i see
[16:22] <knome> ah, so it's really close to the kamppi center
[16:22] <astraljava> Yeah.
[16:22] <knome> eerikin pippuri has some good kebab :)
[16:22] <astraljava> Yes it does.
[16:23] <astraljava> Lemme check the menu.
[16:23] <knome> well, it's just the normal stuff :)
[16:23] <knome> and sub-10€ too :)
[16:23] <knome> (which is the only way to go with kebab...)
[16:25]  * knome is not acting wisely
[16:25] <knome> the coffee doesn't really help with the headache
[16:26] <astraljava> Right, yeah that'll work.
[16:26] <astraljava> What time do you expect you'll be able to start digesting food?
[16:27] <knome> uah :)
[16:27] <knome> noon
[16:27] <knome> what time will you be free?
[16:28] <astraljava> I don't suppose it'll last longer than 1.5h or so.
[16:28] <astraljava> So noon will be fine.
[16:28] <knome> right, i missed the iv time
[16:29] <knome> well, i can get downtown earlier
[16:31] <astraljava> Sure. But then there's the thing which might emerge later, the place where I went to an interview on Friday might recall me back, she sounded really convinced.
[16:31] <astraljava> So let me get back to the schedule closer.
[16:31] <knome> aha
[16:31] <knome> okay
[17:41] <knome> astraljava, heh no, that list is just list for all pages we have. but look, how clean!
[17:43] <astraljava> gah! There's hundreds of 'em!!1one
[17:43] <knome> yeah.
[18:25] <astraljava> argh... frustrating. mr_pouit, micahg, madnick, somebody: How can I get debug information logged somewhere, _anywhere_, from an Xfce4 application? I have compiled with --enable-debug=yes, I use g_debug() to print out stuff, I pipe stdout and stderr into a file, and nothing appears.
[18:25] <knome> astraljava, have you asked #xfce-dev? ;]
[18:25] <astraljava> My google-fu fails me for a better process, so I'm stumped.
[18:26] <astraljava> knome: I haven't, so far.
[18:26] <knome> that's a good channel
[18:26] <knome> sometimes it's quiet, but not always ;)
[18:26] <astraljava> Alright, I'll try it next. Thanks!
[19:39] <ochosi> mr_pouit: had you noticed that xfburn is in accessories as well as multimedia? (shouldn't we remove it from the former?)
[19:39] <ochosi> hi everyone
[19:39] <astraljava> Hi Simon.
[19:40] <ochosi> hey astraljava 
[19:40] <ochosi> astraljava: what up? (you calling me by my RN added so much gravitas to your greeting that i'm expecting something huge now :) )
[19:41] <ochosi> reboot, brb
[19:44] <astraljava> Hahaha. He fled! I WIN!! *evil cackle*
[19:47] <astraljava> *ahem*
[19:48] <astraljava> No, Simon. I do not intend you any harm. I'm just one of those who like to have a more personal "grasp" on people who I interact with on a regular basis. :)
[19:48] <astraljava> To me, there is no separation between IRL and IRC.
[19:58] <ochosi> :)
[19:59] <ochosi> yeah, well i guess people are different in that respect, but i don't mind if you don't make that separation
[20:00] <knome> ochosi, i just understood it yesterday we need to update our logo in the doc package.
[20:01] <knome> ochosi, it has the logo from over 2 years ago. to be exact, it has the old version of the old logo, which probably dates more than three years
[20:01] <ochosi> knome: ah :)
[20:01] <ochosi> where does that show up?
[20:01] <knome> ochosi, applications -> help
[20:02] <GridCube> file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/common/images/headerlogo.png
[20:02] <knome> i also understood we really need to update the docs as soon as possible, and get them uploaded to precise with SRU next july, if possible
[20:02] <GridCube> that link shoudl actually work :P
[20:02] <ochosi> uargh, true, we need to replace that logo
[20:03] <knome> and also, i understood that we should take many short sprints to do that - and i know how - etherpad
[20:03] <knome> paste a part of the documentation in a pad, get 5+ people to work on it and it's ready really soon.
[20:03] <knome> when it's done, paste another part
[20:04] <GridCube> >Copyright © 2009 Canonical Ltd.
[20:05] <ochosi> knome: this will be a busy week for me, not really sure i'll have time for docs
[20:05] <knome> GridCube, there is most probably parts that are more current, but yes, i think that's when most of the documentation is written
[20:05] <knome> ochosi, we can't do this for precise
[20:05] <knome> ochosi, we probably could squeeze in the english docs, but there would be absolutely no chance of getting the translations in
[20:05] <knome> ochosi, that's why i said "SRU in july"
[20:06] <ochosi> mhm, right, i'm a bit tired atm and not reading very closely ;)
[20:06] <knome> no problem
[20:06] <GridCube> knome, there are traduction engines for colaborative traductions
[20:06] <knome> traduction??
[20:07] <knome> right, translation
[20:07] <GridCube> oh
[20:07] <knome> no, that's not the issue
[20:07] <knome> time is
[20:07] <GridCube> mmm yes
[20:07] <knome> i know there are good tools, but that's not realistic
[20:07] <ochosi> i think for p+1 we should consider shipping the xfce docs
[20:07] <ochosi> they have greatly improved
[20:08] <knome> can't be realistic to get docs + translations done in one month, if the old docs date to more than 3 years.
[20:08] <ochosi> e.g. in form of a wiki-snapshot
[20:08] <knome> ochosi, sure, sounds good
[20:08] <ochosi> we could even do that now
[20:08] <knome> i suppose that's part of the work to be done
[20:08] <knome> ochosi, do they come with translations?
[20:08] <knome> anyway, i need to go for a while now
[20:09] <knome> see you soonish again if you're still up
[20:09] <knome> if not, good night
[20:09] <ochosi> mhm, see ya
[21:01] <knome> i'm back soon