[00:05] <Darkwing> Riddell: ping?
[00:42] <ScottK> Darkwing: Yes.
[00:46] <Darkwing> ScottK: Got it fixed.
[00:46] <jalcine> Darkwing: ^
[00:48] <Darkwing> Riddell: import requested for translations for kubuntu-docs. Got the .pot files fixed.
[07:44] <mak1> i want to setup kde build environment on my ubuntu11.10. What packages should i install?  Am i supposed to compile kde from source
[08:08] <shadeslayer> mak1: Project Neon :)
[08:12] <Riddell> morning
[08:18] <pstolowski> fregl, hello
[08:21] <Peace-> open with has some trouble here 
[08:22] <Peace-> 12-04
[08:22] <Peace-> is empty http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/26/plasma-desktopPH1812.png
[09:18] <fregl> hi pstolowski
[09:23] <pstolowski> fregl, unfortunately the patch did't help :(
[09:23] <fregl> pstolowski: backtrace unchanged?
[09:29] <pstolowski> fregl, yes
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:18] <Riddell> http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/4/2012/03/illusion3.jpg
[12:18] <Riddell> err, no
[12:19] <Riddell> KDE SC 4.8.2 Tagging on 29 March  
[12:19] <Riddell> bad konsole not using the copy buffer properly!
[12:20] <shadeslayer> heh :)
[12:51] <pstolowski> fregl, any other ideas how to tackle accessibility crash?
[12:53] <pstolowski> fregl, any idea what to debug/where to look in accessibility code?
[13:11] <fregl> pstolowski: I'm pretty busy today, I was really expecting that event to be the cause. hmmm
[13:12] <fregl> pstolowski: another thing you could do is remove the geometry updating from the qt patch. I learned that sending geometry updates is actually not needed by orca or accerciser at all.
[13:13] <fregl> of course a proper fix would be good
[13:14] <Riddell> isemenov: do you have a launchpad account with ssh?
[13:14] <pstolowski> fregl, ok, will give it a try
[13:15] <fregl> pstolowski: removing that would make sense anyway. I would propose you should work on the git repo where the patch comes from though.
[13:15] <fregl> pstolowski: if you get nowhere I can take a look, but not right now
[13:15] <pstolowski> fregl, ok, I see, thanks
[13:17] <fregl> pstolowski: are you sure you actually applied the patch and got it all rebuilt? and you really really get the same backtrace? just making sure...
[13:18] <isemenov> Riddell: 
[13:19] <Riddell> isemenov: do you have a launchpad account with ssh?
[13:19] <isemenov> well I do have a launchpad account, not sure if I have auploaded an ssh
[13:19] <Riddell> isemenov: where can I get it from?
[13:19] <pstolowski> fregl, yes, I've applied the patch 'the debian way', rebuild the deb, and checked in the src that the patch was applied during build
[13:20] <Riddell> isemenov: or you can set up your computer so i can get ssh access
[13:20] <fregl> weird
[13:22] <pstolowski> fregl, since your patch was for an already known problem, do you have any code to reproduce that problem?
[13:22] <fregl> pstolowski: because in your backtrace there is frame #9 to 7 which then should have changed.
[13:23] <fregl> pstolowski: I don't remember it, it was a crash I found in Qt 5 while doing QtQuick 2 accessibility things.
[13:23] <isemenov> Riddell: sec, lost my password
[13:24] <fregl> pstolowski: qtbase - f449cefc27fc321f96aadbcb0f0a46e6f7a2b0b4 it happened when we send a11y updates for objects that were being deleted
[13:24] <fregl> (Qt 5)
[13:26] <pstolowski> fregl, I only focused on the top of the stacktrace (queryAcessibleINterface - updateAccessibility) - here is entire stacktrace: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/900435/
[13:26] <isemenov> Riddell: done!
[13:26] <isemenov> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~ragnarokk91
[13:26] <pstolowski> fregl, unfortunately no debug symbols at the moment
[13:28] <Riddell> isemenov: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-24-56.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[13:28] <Riddell> isemenov: and run   byobu
[13:29] <isemenov> Riddell: what's that? :)
[13:29] <isemenov> actually, I'm on fedora now, does that matter?
[13:29] <Riddell> isemenov: byobu?  it's gnu screen with a nice default setting
[13:30] <Riddell> isemenov: that's I've set up this machine with ubuntu
[13:30] <isemenov> ah, so I should ssh into that url, ok
[13:30] <fregl> pstolowski: without debug symbols nobody can help you
[13:30] <Riddell> isemenov: yes please
[13:31] <isemenov> Riddell: denied publickey?
[13:31] <isemenov> I've updated the ssh on launchpad a couple minutes ago
[13:31] <Riddell> isemenov: try now
[13:31] <isemenov> aha, done
[13:31] <Riddell> isemenov: type something
[13:31] <isemenov> ok
[13:32] <isemenov> done
[13:32] <Riddell> isemenov: I don't see it, did you run byobu?
[13:32] <isemenov> simple ssh
[13:32] <Riddell> 14:28 < Riddell> isemenov: and run   byobu
[13:32] <isemenov> let me install byobu then
[13:32] <Riddell> isemenov: it's instaled
[13:32] <Riddell> on the machine you sshed into
[13:32] <isemenov> ahh gotcha
[13:33] <isemenov> sec
[13:34] <isemenov> Riddell: done
[13:34] <Riddell> isemenov: lovely :)
[13:35] <Riddell> isemenov: well I'm interested in getting tomahawk packaged which needs quazip packaged, do you want to help?
[13:35] <isemenov> Riddell: well, how much time does that take?
[13:35] <Riddell> isemenov: I don't know I've never packaged it before but it's 1) getting it compiled 2) adding files for packaging 3) testing it
[13:35] <Riddell> 4) uploading it
[13:36] <isemenov> well in that case, I'd rather come back in a coupel days, because I need to finish some bugfixing in time for 4.8.2 tagging
[13:37] <Riddell> isemenov: ok dokey, let's see if we can fine a more mutual time then
[13:37] <isemenov> I'll just ping you when I have time ok? will that address stay the same or can it change?
[13:37] <Riddell> it'll change
[13:37] <isemenov> ok then
[13:37] <Riddell> you can also ask anyone else in ~kubuntu-dev if I'm not around
[13:37] <isemenov> ok
[13:42] <isemenov> Riddell: though, are you using that server to package tomahawk atm?
[13:42] <isemenov> I might just log in and watch the history later
[13:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does plasma active work for you on your pandaboard?
[13:44] <Riddell> isemenov: not immediately no
[13:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes, but only when ubuntu generally works on the pandaboard
[13:44] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:45] <shadeslayer> well, I can't get it to work on my tablet, probably because it needs graphics drivers
[13:46] <yofel> Riddell, isemenov: tomahawk needs libqtweetlib, jreen, and new clucene to be packaged first
[13:46] <yofel> feel free to steal from the PPA
[13:47] <yofel> and someone was assigned to the packaging bug on launchpad, talked to him? I didn't yet
[13:48] <Riddell> yofel: aah is that the issue, I wondered
[13:49] <Riddell> I was just picking a random thing to tutor isemenov through packaging
[13:51] <yofel> Riddell: btw, how do you track who is packaging what? As I have a hard time following for packages not in the SC (i.e. not tracked on the wiki)
[13:53] <isemenov> Riddell: ok I see
[13:56] <Riddell> yofel: we don't have a system for that
[13:56] <Riddell> yofel: it's just coordinated by chatting on IRC
[13:56] <Riddell> there will be done needs-packaging tagged bugs too
[13:58]  * yofel was wondering if we could use tagged bugs for that,  kubuntu + (needs-packaging | upgrade-software-version)
[13:58] <yofel> shouldn't be too much overhead
[14:02] <Riddell> yofel: you're welcome to try and see if it works
[14:03] <Riddell> get a URL for that search and put it in the topic to start off
[14:03] <yofel> I'll write something up as example later
[14:04] <Riddell> then get kde-packager, kde-apps and ubuntuwire uscan to feed into it automatically, that would remove the overhead :)
[14:05] <Riddell> apachelogger: splash screen is looking good to me
[14:23] <brestows> hi! how i can install kde-runtime-dev in kubuntu? in rep this package not found 
[14:23] <Riddell> same way you install any package, but help is in #kubuntu unless you're developing kubuntu
[14:24] <apol> hi guys, is there a kubuntu-devel mailing list or something? (as in a way to get in touch with the kubuntu developer community...)
[14:25] <Riddell> apol: yes, it's called...
[14:25] <Riddell> kubuntu-devel!
[14:25] <apol> Riddell: kubuntu-devel@kde.org?
[14:25] <jussi> apol: lists.ubuntu.com
[14:25] <apol> great thanks
[14:26] <Riddell> apol: gg:mailman kubuntu-devel  should do it
[14:26] <apol> yes yes
[14:26] <apol> found it
[14:29] <apol> this link > https://www.kubuntu.org/wiki/Kubuntu
[14:29] <apol> is broken
[14:29] <apol> and the mailman points to it :P
[14:29] <Riddell> should be wiki.kubuntu.org
[14:29] <Riddell> mm, maybe we should move our mailing list to kde.org :)
[14:29] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:30] <apol> i think so too ;)
[14:30] <Riddell> we do give them one of their machines so they do owe canonical
[14:31] <Riddell> well besides making awesome software for us to ship :)
[14:41] <apol> who is we and them?
[14:41]  * apol is confused
[14:41] <apol> we is canonical?
[14:41] <Riddell> apol: yes canonical hosts one of the machines run by kde sysadmin
[14:41] <apol> :)
[14:41] <apol> cool
[14:49] <agateau> Riddell: hi, wanted to assign you as a reviewer to merge lp:~agateau/libdbusmenu-qt/0.9.1-upstream-release in libdbusmenu-qt packaging branch, but launchpad does not want to cooperate... do you have time to have a look at it?
[14:51] <Riddell> agateau: sure
[14:51] <Riddell> agateau: where's the merge proposal on LP?
[14:51] <agateau> Riddell: that is the problem, I am stuck with a spinning wheel when trying to create it
[14:52] <Riddell> agateau: time to give up on LP then :)
[14:53] <agateau> heh
[14:53] <agateau> Riddell: mmm, now that I think of it, maybe I should have pushed my branch to lp:~agateau/kubuntu-packaging/<something> instead
[14:53] <agateau> Riddell: could it be the reason it is confused?
[14:54] <Riddell> if it branches from a kubuntu-packaging branch you want to push it to the same project yes
[15:09] <agateau> Riddell: ok, let me push it again then
[15:14] <agateau> Riddell: re-pushed as lp:~agateau/kubuntu-packaging/libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.1
[16:43] <soee> hi
[17:19] <Darkwing> Weeeeee
[17:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: so I was looking into soqt and this is the problem http://paste.kde.org/446744/
[17:22]  * shadeslayer needs advice on how to fix that
[17:38] <ScottK> Dunno
[17:39] <shadeslayer> asked on -moty
[17:39] <shadeslayer> *-moty
[17:39] <shadeslayer> damnit
[17:40] <Darkwing> hey shadeslayer
[17:40] <shadeslayer> hi Darkwing
[17:40]  * shadeslayer hi 5's Darkwing
[17:40] <Darkwing> Waiting on the confirmation on my flight. :)
[17:41] <Darkwing> :D congrats mate
[17:41] <shadeslayer> Where are you going?
[17:41] <shadeslayer> hehehe, thanks!
[18:09] <Darkwing> Riddell: Registered.
[18:10] <Riddell> Darkwing: for UDS?  lovely
[18:10] <Darkwing> Riddell: Yup.
[18:10] <Riddell> afiestas: you registered too?  got travel?
[18:29] <Darkwing> Riddell: You know who is running the crew this year?
[18:30] <Riddell> I know nothing
[18:31] <Darkwing> lol
[20:03] <Riddell> anything to add? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview#Kubuntu
[20:05]  * shadeslayer looks
[20:05] <shadeslayer> looks good :P
[20:06]  * shadeslayer is trying to get active running on his transformer
[20:06] <shadeslayer> and I've reached a point where I'm compiling kernels :P
[20:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can't even get a command line up?
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I can, the main issue is that we have nvidia-tegra drivers for armel in precise, *but* those need the 3.2 kernel
[20:19] <shadeslayer> so no hardware acceleration -> Makes plasma active go crashy crashy
[20:20] <shadeslayer> so either port the TF101 patches from android to 3.2 kernel, or try and use this : http://www.paulburton.eu/git/
[20:20] <shadeslayer> but I can't git clone from any of those repos
[20:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the whole ARM thing reminds me so much of Linux on PCs in 1999
[20:21] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[20:22] <Riddell> I remember finally getting suse usable but only by installing RPMs for drivers from red hat
[20:24] <shadeslayer> hehe
[20:24] <shadeslayer> I'm actually fixing ASUS's kernel source code right now :P
[20:24] <shadeslayer> since my build failed
[21:10] <Darkwing> shadeslayer: What version of the TF101 you have?
[22:26] <Riddell> oh hmm
[22:26] <Riddell> that wasn't what I ment to do
[22:37] <Riddell> afiestas: a journalist has reported this bug, any idea how to start debugging it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/956806
[22:37] <afiestas> Riddell: yes registered and got travel 
[22:37] <afiestas> checking the bug
[22:39] <BarkingFish> evening guys :)
[22:40] <afiestas> Riddell: Nikons are not normal usb massstorage the camera:// kio has to be used
[22:40] <afiestas> if that is confirmed the bug is a good catch, will try to fix for the next minor release
[22:49] <Riddell> afiestas: how to confirm it?
[22:49] <afiestas> already replied in the bug report, if udisk doesn't detect it as a storage then it is a camera://
[22:52] <Riddell> lovely thanks
[22:54] <Darkwing> Whoot! Maybe, I should setup a wiki page for those in KDE/Kubuntu coming to UDS
[23:06] <Riddell> Darkwing: wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSQSeries
[23:06] <Riddell> which probably isn't quite accurate
[23:07] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'll drop an email to the devel ML
[23:08] <Riddell> thanks