[00:04] <cowlicks> jalcine: copy pasted something from the web into xorg.conf.d and it's working now
[01:44] <gizmobay> I have dual monitors. I have two PDFs open in Okular on the second monitor. They're in separate windows since they were dl from links. I would like to tile them side by side
[01:45] <gizmobay> Anyone know how to do this?
[02:35] <DasKreech> umm? window snapping?
[04:42] <frogonwheels> wtf? I just discovered window grouping.. how long has that been there?
[05:14] <jalcine> frogonwheels: Quite some time :P
[05:14] <jalcine> A lot of theme engines use it
[05:14] <jalcine> Qt Curve uses it (it's togglable)
[05:14] <jalcine> though Oxygen (in 4.8.1) has it by default
[05:14] <jalcine> I haven't found a way to disable it.
[06:10] <obelus> Hi, I've got a script that changes my apt proxy when I connect to a WLAN network, base on SSID, is there any way I can extend this  affect to the KDE system proxy?
[06:26] <Tm_T> obelus: I suppose KDE allows proxy being set via dbus atleast
[06:31] <bigbrovar> anyone running kde 4.8 backport for kubuntu 11.10, since running it i noticed akonadi does not start with the system and would have to restart it everytime I log in. Anyone else experience this problem?
[06:47] <lordievader> good morning
[06:50] <sjihs> Hi, I am running Xubuntu 11.04 on my laptop. I have added the kubuntu-ppa repository in sources.list file. Which package should i be installing to get kde 4.8?
[06:51] <lordievader> not sure if the kubuntu ppa has it, i do know that the backport ppa has 4.8
[06:51] <lordievader> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[06:53] <sjihs> lordievader: Thanks for that info!
[06:53] <lordievader> no problem
[06:57] <sjihs> lordievader: I have added the repository. Do you know the meta package name that will install kde 4.8.x?
[07:02] <Erik_Lehnsherr> hey guys
[07:02] <lordievader> sjihs:  what I yesterday have done was simply add the backport ppa and update, and now i have 4.8, so im not sure of a meta package.
[07:02] <lordievader> hey
[07:04] <sjihs> lordievader: ok. I probably will to first install 'kubuntu-desktop' and then do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. Am i right?
[07:05] <lordievader> sjihs: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, works too, not too familiar with dist-upgrade
[07:07] <lordievader> hey i found the difference, perhaps everybody here knew it already, but what the hell: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/
[08:03] <DasKreech> sjihs: install kubuntu-desktop
[08:06] <DasKreech> hi lordievader
[08:07] <lordievader> DasKreech: hey
[08:07] <lordievader> DasKreech: how are you?
[08:08] <lordievader> gotta run, cya
[08:11]  * DasKreech scared off lordvader :-(
[10:31] <pvivek> where can i find this package TelepathyLoggerQt4? i am not able to find it in muon package manager. I use Kubuntu 11.10. Any help would be appreciated
[10:55] <lordievader> hello
[11:00] <olajon> Hello i wonder if it's possible to put kubuntu mobile 11.10 on my smartphone?
[11:00] <lordievader> Perhaps, although I do think it will be difficult what kind of proccesor is in your phone?
[11:01] <olajon> Nvidia tegra. Dual core, its an lg optimus 2x
[11:04] <lordievader> Phew going to be difficult, if it is even possible, perhaps google has an how to?
[11:06] <olajon> Ok I'll check it thx
[11:13] <olajon> It seems like kubuntu core hasn't tegra support yet so it will not work on my device but the plasma active team ran it successfully on a tegra2 device but unfortunally the target isn't smatphones yet
[11:14] <olajon> And the plasma team is another project so :/
[11:15] <olajon> I look forward to when i can run kde on all kind of  devices i have
[11:17] <lordievader> I see, good luck, perhaps in the future the team will add support for mobile devices.
[11:19] <olajon> It must be so or else they won't be following the evolution.
[11:19] <lordievader> The evolution of everything going to smart-phones/tablets?
[11:22] <olajon> Not everything but it should be ported cross platform so u can use it no mather what
[11:26] <lordievader> Need to run, olajon hope you get it one day, would be cool!
[11:35] <olajon> How to get xmpp to MSN gateway to work in kde telepathy,  i try to login with my Gmail but it wont work
[11:37] <olajon> It popups a directed page to windows live login when trying to connecting but Microsoft won't accept my Gmail plz help
[11:40] <obelus> Would anyone here be able to tell me how I would edit the KDE system proxy settings by using the command line? I have a script which runs in if-up.d and sets the apt proxy based on the SSID, but I'm not sure how to set the KDE proxy with that method
[11:46] <hateball> obelus: there is probably a dbus call to do it, but I dont know it
[11:47] <hateball> obelus: you could find out using qdbusviewer I think
[11:47] <obelus> KDE has an option to read it from environment variables, but I'm not sure how to set them properly for that, as setting /etc/environment doesnt seem to work - I imagine because it's only read on startup, and using export doesn't either.
[11:48] <obelus> hateball: =( 104mb of packages to install qdbusviewer
[11:48] <hateball> yeah, it pulls in a large dev package
[11:50] <obelus> Only recently started using KDE, I'm used to using Gnome, but Gnome3 and Unity use so much battery, and KDE seems to have more power options, and so far I like it, except for the plasma-netbook interface
[11:50] <tsimpson> you can change that back to the "desktop" interface
[11:51] <obelus> tsimpson: how? I tried killing plasma-netbook and starting plasma-desktop, and it mostly works, but maximised windows don't have titlebars or minimize/restore/close controls
[11:51] <hateball> Yeah, I dont find the netbook/active interface offers any advantage on say a netbook
[11:51] <tsimpson> System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Workspace
[11:51] <tsimpson> change Workspace Type to Desktop
[11:52] <obelus> tsimpson: Thankyou so much =D
[11:52] <tsimpson> no problem :)
[11:52] <obelus> Will this make plasma-desktop my default interface now?
[11:53] <olajon> Can i ask questions here about kde-telepatht?
[11:53] <tsimpson> obelus: yes
[11:57] <obelus> Not getting anywhere with qdbusviewer =/ I wonder if I can just have my script write to a config file and do qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin reconfigure to load it or something
[12:10] <hateball> obelus: it should be .org.freedesktop.NetworkManager I think
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:13] <drbobb> hello, why is the 12.04-beta1-alternate iso too large for a cd-r?? and how do I work around this?
[12:13] <uberdub> use thumb drive
[12:15] <drbobb> I have never had any success in preparing a bootable thumbdrive
[12:15] <drbobb> anyway isn't it a bug if the image doesn't fit on a cd?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> drbobb, use a dvd , if you have oe otherwie you can upgrade thru the 'net in the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade -d , if you're on 11.10
[12:16] <drbobb> I need a fresh install on a virgin machine, not an upgrade
[12:17] <BluesKaj> then copy the iage to dvd , as well 12.04 info and support can be found at #ubunt+1
[12:17] <BluesKaj> image
[12:18] <drbobb> ok thanks, i did try to join #kubuntu+1 but it's by invitation only (?)
[12:19] <Pici> #kubuntu+1 forwards to #ubuntu+1, but you're already there.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> #ubuntu+1 handles kubuntu as well
[12:19] <drbobb> not what my client said, but yes I recall it used to forward
[12:20] <Pici> drbobb: The way that forwarding works is that you will get that message if you're already present in the destination channel.  ITs weird, but its the way it is.
[12:22] <drbobb> Pici: thx for the tip
[12:25] <drbobb> too bad k3b doesn't report what the problem is, just disables the start recording button
[12:27] <BluesKaj> drbobb,  if you have a new pc then it probly has boot from usb option in the bios
[12:27] <BluesKaj> !usb
[12:28] <drbobb> BluesKaj: I have a drawer full of blank cd's/dvd's and not a single thumbdrive to spare ;) I'd need to go out shopping
[12:28] <BluesKaj> drbobb,  use a dvd then
[12:28] <drbobb> doing that right now
[12:29] <BluesKaj> ok , good :)
[12:38] <obelus> Hm... been looking around online and through qdbusviewer, but haven't found the system proxy yet... maybe I'm just too tired, I might sleep and try to solve this tomorrow.
[12:47] <reisi> dbus-daemon is using 100% cpu BUT dbus-monitor cannot see anything spamming/DOS'ing
[12:49] <reisi> oh yes, kmail couldnt' send any emails again, killing it allows apps to start again
[12:50] <obelus> Okay, I ended up finding where it's stored - in kioslaverc, can I simply use kwriteconfig to set the proxy and then make kwin reload to make it take effect?
[14:06] <lordievader> Hello
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hi
[14:08] <lordievader> BluesKaj: how are you?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> just fine lordievader , and you ?
[14:09] <lordievader> BluesKaj: good too, trying to get synergy to work... i don't want to manually write a config file...
[14:10] <BluesKaj> synergy ? never used it
[14:11] <lordievader> Lets you control multiple computers using one mouse and keyboard
[14:11] <lordievader> http://synergy-foss.org/
[14:11] <lordievader> cross-platform
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yeah, I checked it out
[14:20] <hypershock> que pasa mi amigos! --- Where does kubuntu store the monitor definitions (because mine resets everytime i log in) and where does it store the auto starting applications (because mine ignores .config/autostart and the application "autostart")?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> hypershock,  you'll find those in kmenu>computer>system settings
[14:23] <lordievader> he said that his box ignores the autostart application...
[14:23] <hypershock> BluesKaj: yep, but my installation is flat ignoring what I set in those, and by ignore, I mean, when I reboot/restart although I saved the settings, things start back up and that I said not to, and my monitor settings go back to what they were.
[14:23] <hypershock> s/up and/up
[14:24] <fanti> hi! i've some errors in dmsg about: "Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 1319997"
[14:25] <fanti> what is this message about?
[14:25] <fanti> inode 1319997 points to some file in /home/.ecryptfs/....
[14:26] <BluesKaj> hypershock,  in system settings>startup&shutdown , once you set your preferences, go to session management , upon login check 'restore previous session'
[14:27] <BluesKaj> fanti,  do you encrypt any files ?
[14:27] <fanti> BluesKaj: yes... i'm using the encrypted home-directory feature of ubuntu
[14:28] <hypershock> First extremely annoying thing, I have a huge external 32" HD 1080p monitor plugged into my laptop. I don't want my laptop screen on at all. right now it is on but very dim. I goto the kmenu->settings->display and tell it to disable the laptop screen and it does. I make "save as default" is selected and whack "apply", everything goes black and then the configuration comes with laptop screen disabled and huge monitor only, which is what I want. I can
[14:28] <hypershock>  find no other method to force the setting to save or become persistent. Upon reboot it is forgotten. The same is true for Autostart applications, i even removed items directly from .config/autostart/ to no avail, they just restart as if I didn't do it. Also, I discovered when watching a movie, that my screensaver or screenblanker does its doody and pun intended, every 10 minutes. I checked power config and disabled all there and disabled the screen
[14:28] <hypershock> saver there as well. while those settings retain upon reboot, they change nothing and are completely ignored. I have teamviewer if someone wants to remote.
[14:28] <FloodBotK1> hypershock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:28] <hypershock> BluesKaj: that settings is already set, i checked it.
[14:29] <hypershock> oh and I just upgraded kde 4.8.1 to see if anything changed and it didnt
[14:35] <hypershock> i just found one place. .kde/autostart - I don't know why kde is putting stuff in .config/autostart if it is using that other directory
[14:36] <hypershock> weird, it isn't using that dir althought it exists
[14:36] <BluesKaj> hypershock,  what about the service manager>startup services in startup and shutdown ..have you looked there?
[14:37] <hypershock> BluesKaj: are you not able to see my responses to you? I have checked there, "restore previous session" is checked.
[14:38] <hypershock> BluesKaj: sorry i'm getting bent, my apologies. i'll dbl check what you just suggested.
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hypershock,  no , I mean the service manager>startup services list in startup and shutdown
[14:39] <BluesKaj> the Display management change monitor
[14:39] <hypershock> BluesKaj: yes, i got ya. there is an issue there as the "display manager" is not running. at least I hope that is an issue.
[14:39] <lordievader> something totaly unrelated, if you want synergy working, do not use the repos...
[14:40] <numekaru> hi there
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hypershock,  ok , Power management too
[14:41] <lordievader> hello
[14:41] <hypershock> BluesKaj: power management is running
[14:42] <numekaru> hm, i have little trouble with chrome, can u help plz?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hypershock,  maybe it should be turned off if you don't want the screen saver on
[14:43] <lordievader> numekaru: perhaps, what seems to be the problem?
[14:43] <hypershock> I want the screensaver actually, what I don't want is it ignoring my settings. I have set to 64 minutes, but it comes on in 10.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hypershock, if your settings are being ignored anyway , it's worth a try
[14:45] <hypershock> I seriously considering a boot & nuke. cause I started with Ubuntu 11.10, then added Lubuntu 11.10, then went to Kubuntu 11.10 and found a ton of Zen and Peace! but, these wonky issues. eeek.
[14:45] <numekaru> i've updated chrome,and now, when i'm opening chrome in fulscreen, im losing control buttons(close,minimize) http://s019.radikal.ru/i602/1203/15/868d30c98937.jpg
[14:45] <hypershock> also I cleaned out the other ubus
[14:45] <numekaru> but, when it is not fullscreen all the ok
[14:46] <lordievader> numekaru: you mean when you maxize the screen? or do you mean  full-screen as in pressing F11?
[14:46] <numekaru> no, just maximized
[14:46] <BluesKaj> numekaru,  for linux chromium-browser is more suitable ,and if you switch all your chrome settings will be retained
[14:47] <numekaru> BluesKaj, the same trouble in chromium too
[14:47] <lordievader> numekaru: I think i found it.
[14:47] <hypershock> is kde supposed to be using xrandr for monitor management?
[14:48] <maco> there's a kde gui frontend for it, but yeah
[14:48] <numekaru> lordievader, you know the solution?
[14:48] <lordievader> numekaru: go into Preferences->Personal Stuff->Appearance, here make sure "Hide system title bar and use compact borders" is ticked
[14:49] <numekaru> it's ticked
[14:49] <numekaru> sec, ill show you in screenshot
[14:50] <lordievader> numekaru: really? hmm that is odd, because when i check "use system title bar" it hides the window controls, like in your screen shot...
[14:51] <numekaru> i've not changed any http://s019.radikal.ru/i637/1203/7f/6571b2a79c9c.jpg
[14:52] <BluesKaj> numekaru,  Use system title bar and borders , then reload or restart
[14:53] <numekaru> earlier, there was buttons in maximized mode, but now :S
[14:53] <numekaru> also, in windows the same version is ok
[14:53] <lordievader> What theme are you using? GTK+ or classic?
[14:53] <lordievader> Not sure if you have the option in Chrome, perhaps it is a chromium only thing...
[14:54] <numekaru> classic
[14:54] <numekaru> lordievader, the setting are same. but troubles in both
[14:54] <lordievader> Try GTK+ there  with both options of system title bar, perhaps that fixes things...
[15:04] <hypershock> Is there a way to completely reinitialize all of the kde required configs and make it check everything and ensure that it is not using something that it is not supposed to be using?
[15:05] <lordievader> jup, renaming .kde to something else, like .kde-old
[15:05] <lordievader> resets everything related to kde
[15:06] <hypershock> "everything" including startup applications, services, monitor defaults, everything ... I really want that. here goes.
[15:06] <lordievader> you come back to the default setup
[15:06] <meganerd> Your amarok podcasts are stored in there if you use that
[15:07] <hypershock> i don't, it's ok. here goes. brb hopefully
[15:07]  * hypershock crosses his fingers, *CRACK*, "You see a bone pop out!"
[15:07] <lordievader> if you keep the folder, you still have your settings/podcasts...
[15:30] <sjihs> Hi all, I have installed ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports repository on my xubuntu 11.04 machine. Can somebody guide me to install kde 4.8.1 on my desktop
[15:31] <lordievader> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[15:31] <sjihs> lordievader: the prev cmd installed kde 4.6
[15:32] <sjihs> lordievader: I have the following line in my sources.list file
[15:32] <sjihs> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu natty main
[15:33] <lordievader> sjihs: perhaps you need to upgrade to 11.10?
[15:34] <sjihs> lordievader: I tried 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to upgrade. But that is not working.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> sjihs, ,  did you update and upgrade first?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> then dist-upgrade
[15:36] <sjihs> BluesKaj: yes, I did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[15:36] <BluesKaj> try apt-get upgrade
[15:37] <sjihs> BluesKaj: I get '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.'
[15:38] <lordievader> Not sure if this will work but on the ubuntu forums someone suggests doing this: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:38] <lordievader> source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837788
[15:38] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  no thaty upgrades to the next release
[15:38] <lordievader> exactly, I don't think 11.04 has kde 4.8, and sjihs wants kde 4.8
[15:38] <BluesKaj> development release at that ,12.04
[15:39] <lordievader> hmm, not to 11.10?
[15:39] <sjihs> BluesKaj: Weird, do-release-upgrade prints 'No new release found'
[15:39] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade -d is dev release command
[15:40] <lordievader> and without the argument d?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> sjihs,  you sure you're on 11.04
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:41] <sjihs> BluesKaj: yes, very much
[15:41] <sjihs> BluesKaj: Confirmed that from 'cat /etc/issue'
[15:42] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  it should upgrade to the next release , but if the OS isn't completely updated/upgraded and contains ppas then the release upgrade may be blocked
[15:44] <sjihs> BluesKaj: found the dist-upgrade fix at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[15:45] <valermalko> hello
[15:46] <sparr> How do I get rid of the "Printer Applet" popup in the top right corner of my screen that is telling me one of my printers is disconnected?
[15:46] <valermalko> i am from Kazakhstan
[15:47] <lordievader> sparr: check the notification settings.
[15:49] <lordievader> sparr: in System Settings->Application and System Notifications
[15:53]  * BluesKaj shrugs , didn't see anything new about upgrading to a new release , using the gui maybe
[15:53] <lordievader> I'm not sure on how to do that either...
[15:54] <BluesKaj> sparr,  system tray settings , maybe
[15:54] <BluesKaj> ok , BBL , stuff to do for a few mins
[15:55] <lordievader> Ok, cya
[15:58] <lordievader> gotta go, bye
[16:19] <DasKreech> hi BluesKaj
[16:33] <Analabrie> Hi, beta1 upgrade from lucid.. anybody running into adobe-flashplugin upgrade errors?
[16:33]  * Analabrie ignored the error during the upgrade. But I can't remove the package now from within Precise.
[16:34] <DasKreech> Analabrie: You jumped from Lucid to Precise ?
[16:35] <DasKreech> Analabrie: adobeflashplugin has been replaced with adobe-flashinstaller as far as I know
[16:36] <hypershock> BluesKaj: hey dude. renaming .kde and allowing all my settings to reset to default solved everything.
[16:36] <hypershock> guys, how do you inspect what is in the session? reason: I need to remove something from it so it doesn't get restored on reboot.
[16:36] <Analabrie> DasKreech: yes, from LTS to LTS.
[16:37]  * hypershock spocks ...
[16:37] <Analabrie> hypershock: applications?
[16:38] <hypershock> Analabrie: I'm not entirely sure what you are suggesting ...
[16:38] <Analabrie> DasKreech: I ran into the error during the upgrade. I ignored it then. Now the package is broken (in Precise) and I can't get rid of it either.
[16:39] <Analabrie> hypershock: do you want applications running during the current session to not automatically be started upon reboot?
[16:40] <hypershock> Analabrie: I only want applications I have explicitly allowed to startup through the "start manager", vs I clicked it and so it was open at reboot and therefore comes back. The latter behavior I do not want. But I also need various desktop and system settings to be left unscathed.
[16:42] <Analabrie> hypershock: There's a setting for that. Let me see if I can find it.
[16:42] <Analabrie> something along the lines of "save session" oslt.
[16:44] <hypershock> Analabrie: I just added the offending application to the "exclusion" line in the session management interface. However, I would've preferred the more 1337 method of manually munging the right file. let's see if this helps.
[16:44] <hypershock> brb, testing
[16:48] <Analabrie> Anybody know how I can force-remove adobe-flashplugin?
[17:02] <hypershock> Just let everyone know. All my problems for today have been solved. I am now back in the mood again for KDE :)
[17:02]  * hypershock rubs up on KDE like a ...
[17:20] <Pici> loco
[17:26] <soee> is there some plasmoid to manage google docs ?
[17:32] <bazhang> !find plasmoid
[17:37] <BarkingFish> Evening guys. I'm in need of a little help, and I'm hoping someone here knows how to fix what's wrong.  I have 2 sets of sound sockets on my PC, front (phones, mic, line in) and back (those, plus digital in, out and spdif)
[17:37] <BarkingFish> the back ones work fine, but the front sockets do absolutely nothing. Instead of muting the sound from the speakers when I plug in there, the sound continues to come through the speakers and I get nothing through my phones.
[17:38] <BarkingFish> I'm using pulseaudio, which I know has caused problems in the past, but I can't remember how to get it off and go back to alsa only.
[17:42] <sparr> BarkingFish: step zero, wait for an answer.
[17:43] <BarkingFish> sorry about that, restarted kdm. I got pulseaudio off, I need to get alsa working now :)  Any ideas?
[17:46] <sparr> BarkingFish: what does alsamixer have to say about things?
[17:48] <BarkingFish> Card: HDA Intel - Chip: ALC880
[17:48] <BarkingFish> shows a full mixer, but I can't get any sound out of the system even with the volume up
[17:49] <BarkingFish> nothing is muted, that much I can see from kmix
[17:51] <BarkingFish> i've had trouble before a long time ago, on another linux os, where the card was detected incorrectly, there are other versions (6ch, 8ch and 8ch Digital)
[17:51] <BarkingFish> i can't recall what it was picked up as, but I know it was the wrong version :)
[18:09] <gRmml-Kubun> hi =)
[18:11] <BarkingFish> So, anyone got anymore thoughts on my sound issue?  Pulse has never been controllable enough for me to use properly, at least with alsa I can see all my channels.  Now how the *myxzptlk* do I get sound out of them? :)
[18:12] <gRmml> can somebody help? i wanna now if there is a programm like skype or a programm were i can phone to my skype contacts?
[18:12] <gRmml> sorry for my bad english long time ago im writing english :/
[18:16] <gRmml> no response? or is everybody sleeping/ watching tv?
[18:16] <trooper> gRmml: i don't think there is an alternate program. you can download a deb from skype.com i think.
[18:16] <trooper> gRmml: try installing from http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu32
[18:16] <gRmml> thru?
[18:17] <gRmml> thanks a lot trooper..  i check this one..
[18:17] <gRmml> didn't know that there is a version vor linux on skype site
[18:18] <gRmml> is it also for 64bit version? or only 32bit?
[18:18] <BarkingFish> gRmml, a lot of companies are becoming aware of linux as a market now, even the BBC have versions of their software and downloads for us.
[18:18] <BarkingFish> it's simply because they know that we'll moan like crazy if they don't make it :)
[18:19] <gRmml> first time im using linux longer then a week.. im a linux newbie =)
[18:19] <gRmml> sorry when im bugging u with poor questions
[18:19] <gRmml> :P
[18:20] <trooper> gRmml: its ok. *looks around* http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ click and hold download now. select ubuntu 64bit
[18:20] <dizhi> Hi
[18:20] <gRmml> hi
[18:21] <dizhi> It is the first time I use IRC..
[18:21] <gRmml> thank you trooper..
[18:21] <dizhi> :)
[18:24] <gRmml> what type of linux did you use? ive installed kubuntu on my laptop and ubuntu on the big one
[18:25] <gRmml> some one from germany?
[18:26] <Pici> !de
[18:26] <Pici> :)
[18:26] <gRmml> thx
[19:00] <orated> Hi! I'm facing no system sounds issue exactly as described here - http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-52523.html - but the fix mentioned there is not working for me. Can anyone guide me on how to fix it?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> orated, system settings>application&system notifications>manage notifications>player settings tab,"use kde sound system"
[19:10] <orated> BluesKaj: Already slected
[19:10] <orated> selected
[19:11] <BluesKaj> orated,  then make sure the master volume insn't muted in kmix or alsamixer
[19:12] <orated> BluesKaj: Done ...
[19:12] <orated> Actually, what you suggested is also suggested in http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-52523.html
[19:15] <BluesKaj> orated, actually myexperience with system sounds is rather limited since I find them annoying and turn them off
[19:21] <orated> BluesKaj: Umm... From what I could understand with the help of that forum, my pulseaudio is blocking the device
[19:23] <BluesKaj> orated,  make sure in phonon your device prefernce includes notifications , click on all of them video, communications etc and click apply after each choice
[19:28] <orated> BluesKaj: I said it wrong , this is what lsof returns - http://pastebin.com/KkjGM9bj . And when I tried to configure Phonon, I got this message - http://imagebin.org/205256
[19:40] <lordievader> good evening
[19:42] <BluesKaj> orated,  you must have changed your soundcard or driver , or upgraded to newer kubuntu recently. correct ?
[19:44] <orated> BluesKaj: Umm, no. If you remember, I asked you about sound before and had a similar error window which phonon have now.
[19:44] <orated> BluesKaj: I only upgraded KDE
[19:44] <orated> BluesKaj: Kubuntu 11.10 KDE 4.8.1
[19:45] <lordievader> what is the problem? perhaps all of us together can help you out
[19:47] <BluesKaj> orated,  you must choose the device preference in phonon , check each of the devices listed there and click the test button, once you've decided which device works for you , then also choose the same on in pulse audio or check pulse audio first for your options. Sometimes pulse will limit them
[19:47] <orated> BluesKaj: But what should I do about the window - http://imagebin.org/205256 - first
[19:47] <orated> ?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> click no
[19:48] <orated> BluesKaj: In device preferences, I got only one device - PulseAudio Sound server  listed
[19:48] <BluesKaj> you want some options rather than autoselect by default ..it will sometimes be wrong
[19:49] <BluesKaj> then you have to reboot
[19:49] <orated> eh
[19:49] <orated> I'm getting sound in Amarok though
[19:50] <orated> How would restart help?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> it will let pulse audio reconfigure the options it gives
[19:51] <orated> Ok, brb
[19:51] <BluesKaj> that's been my experience , unfortunately
[19:57] <orated> BluesKaj: I rebooted the system and found only two devices in Device Preferences(Phonon) - Internal Audio Analog Stereo and Dummy Output, out of which only Internal one works
[19:59] <orated> and Dummy Output is greyed out
[20:03] <BluesKaj> what options does the audio hardware tab(pulseaudio) give ?
[20:04] <orated> Do you mean Phonon > Audio Hardware Setup > Hardware > Profile ?
[20:04] <mokush> can anybody tell me how often does project-neon get the source from master?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> orated,  yes
[20:07] <orated> http://imagebin.org/205269
[20:12] <BluesKaj> orated,  well , what kind of setup do you have ...you have to choose the one that your speakers and setup are closest to .
[20:15] <mcamaret> what is a good qt-based tomboy-syncing notes application?
[20:16] <orated> BluesKaj: Yes, I was doing that. I've no idea about IEC958. lspci audio returns - 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05). I'm on laptop and its JBL 2.1 Audio: 2 X 4W + 12W sub-woofer.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> orated,  for example i use the "Digital Stereo (IEC958)Output , because I have no speakers connected to the pc , the digital audio feed goes to my digital inputs on my audio amp
[20:30] <orated> BluesKaj: Only Analog Stereo output is working
[20:31] <JMichaelX> the ghost task manager icon problem... it appears to finally be gone!!!!
[20:39] <lethu> hello, I have noticed that the Muon package manager auto updates my softwares, without prompting me as it did before
[20:39] <lethu> at least the Muon history says so
[20:40] <lethu> can somebody help please?
[20:41] <lordievader> Let me see if muon has a setting for this... hold on a second
[20:42] <lethu> lordievader, ok sure, thanks
[20:42] <lordievader> lethu: Do you wish to see what he will update?
[20:42] <lethu> lordievader, I wish it asks me whether to update or not
[20:43] <lethu> not just update automatically
[20:43] <lordievader> lethu: you mean muon skips the review stage?
[20:43] <lethu> lordievader, yes
[20:43] <BluesKaj> orated, what do you mean ..if you're using built in sound , that's your only option anyway
[20:43] <lordievader> i see, hmm... i do get the review stage, lets check google.
[20:44] <lethu> sure
[20:45] <lordievader> lethu: can you check Software Sources for me?
[20:45] <lethu> lordievader, ok
[20:46] <lordievader> lethu: under automatic updates to what is that set?
[20:46] <lethu> lordievader, unde muon?
[20:46] <lethu> /sunde/under
[20:47] <lordievader> lethu:  muon->settings ->configure software sources ->updates tab
[20:49] <lethu> lordievader, Check for updates: enabled / Install security updates without confirmation: disabled / the second radion button as well / the third (Only notify about available updates is enabled
[20:50] <lordievader> hmm, so that ain't it...
[20:52] <lordievader> lethu: is the button "preview changes" in muon enabled?
[20:53] <lethu> lordievader, grayed out
[20:54] <lordievader> lethu: could be a work-around: in muon under filter select "by status" then Upgradable, here you see all the updates, select them all click "mark as upgrade" (not sure what the actual button says) then preview changes should no longer be gray
[20:56] <lethu> lordievader, I select "Upgradable", but it doesn't list anything
[20:57] <lordievader> lethu: did you update your sources?
[20:57] <lordievader> else it could be that everything is already up to date...
[20:58] <lethu> lordievader, by updating my sources, do you mean "Check for Updates"?
[20:59] <lethu> lordievader, otherwise the issue is not my software being outdated, but rather being asked before the updates
[20:59] <lethu> Muon seems to update automatically without confirmations
[21:00] <BluesKaj> lethu,  or you could disable muon altogether and just use the konsole to update/upgrade ..no more annoying notifications
[21:01] <lordievader> hmm, very odd... I'm not sure how to fix that right now..
[21:01] <lordievader> You could also try the forums, see if someone knows a fix there.
[21:01] <lordievader> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[21:01] <lethu> ok, lordievader, BluesKaj, thanks for the help
[21:02] <lethu> I will check the forums, etc...
[21:02] <lordievader> lethu: good luck
[21:02] <lethu> lordievader, thanks!
[21:03] <BluesKaj> muon is buggy anyway , I don't trust it to install/remove anything
[21:04] <lordievader> it has indeed failed quite a few times on me...
[21:30] <avreidy> hello
[21:35] <avreidy> is anyone here a Kubuntu contributor?
[21:53] <avreidy> does anyone here talk?
[21:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> some times
[22:35] <BarkingFish> Hi all. I have got a beauty of a problem for you :)
[22:36] <BarkingFish> I installed some fonts yesterday, which my system won't allow me to use. They're the package from tv-fonts, and when I went to reinstall them using kfontviewer, it said "Cannot install these fonts: Bitmap fonts are disabled on your system."
[22:36] <BarkingFish> I'm like, what the hell?
[22:37] <BarkingFish> I didn't do that, so what has happened, and how do I fix it please?
[22:39] <Sentynel> BarkingFish: have you tried this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Enabling_Bitmapped_Fonts
[22:39] <BarkingFish> Sentynel, no.  I don't understand how they got disabled in the first place, they worked on my last install of 11.10, so something's gone wrong this time.