[04:30] <roasted> hello!
[04:30] <roasted> is there a gui in LXDE that lets me set up custom startup apps when I log in?
[15:19] <ptrkmj> Update Manager pops up showing a list of "Important security updates" but when I check them in Synaptic they all come from oneiric-updates distribution (not oneiric-security). Why they're being tagged as security related then?
[15:22] <hosoka> hello all
[15:22] <hosoka> yet, another sunny day
[15:24] <KM0201> sunny=HOT!
[15:24] <hosoka> yes, but not here.
[15:25] <hosoka> the reason I came into this chat was the autologin feature in LXDM.
[15:26] <MrChrisDruif> Awesome
[15:26] <KM0201> hosoka: never used it... :)
[15:26] <MrChrisDruif> Could you come to #lubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:26] <hosoka> have seen that it was not easy to have this sorted out and still for some newbies difficult to tweak. If there was a nice gui for this just with a click ....
[15:26] <hosoka> ok
[15:26] <hosoka> right away :-)
[15:26] <KM0201> to me, if Linus wanted us to use autologin, he wouldn't have created log in screens.. :)
[15:32] <Unit193> It exists and works fine, what file are you editing?
[15:32] <roasted> hello!
[15:33] <roasted> In Gnome there's a GUI for "startup applications." I love this because it has the custom command feature. I have an rsync command in there that runs each time I log in automatically. Is there a similar feature in Lubuntu/LXDE?
[15:34] <MrChrisDruif> roasted; you can auto-start apps
[15:35] <MrChrisDruif> roasted; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop
[15:37] <roasted> MrChrisDruif: not to sound like a weenie, but there's no GUI equivalent?
[15:39] <MrChrisDruif> Afaik not
[15:39] <MrChrisDruif> Well, GUI way...
[15:41] <MrChrisDruif> Go to /usr/share/applications/ with PCmanFM, copy the requested app go to ~/.config/autostart/ (create if needed), paste and the rest is GUI already
[15:41] <roasted> Also, does PCMan support samba shares?
[15:41] <MrChrisDruif> Custom command you can just "create" an empty file with the required command in it
[15:41] <roasted>  bin bash style, eh?
[15:42] <MrChrisDruif> Yup
[15:42] <MrChrisDruif> I'm not sure, but I think cron can also be used for trigging the file at boot up
[15:43] <roasted> I think cron can handle @reboot flags.
[15:43] <roasted> I like to avoid using cron unless it's a system wide task. This in particular is a per user task.
[15:46] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow, you get the point right?
[15:46] <roasted> Sure do. :)
[15:46] <roasted> I'm just trying to find a super light distro for my file server.
[15:46] <roasted> But during my hunt I was trying to see what features I would like it to have for it to be my main desktop OS.
[15:46] <roasted> which is where my curiosity of the GUI command thing came about.
[15:47] <KM0201> roasted: let me get this straight
[15:47] <KM0201> you want a main desktop OS, to be a fileserver?
[15:47] <roasted> KM0201: I sort of had a sidelined agenda with this.
[15:47] <roasted> KM0201: I have Ubuntu 11.04 on my file server now. I was going to search around for a different, lightweight one to use instead.
[15:47] <KM0201> really it makes no sense for a fileserver, to be a "main desktop" as well.
[15:48] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed
[15:48] <roasted> KM0201: but during my search I began thinking, what if I would have this same OS as my maind esktop?
[15:48] <KM0201> again, are we talking file server, or desktop?
[15:48] <roasted> KM0201: well, it's a kind of a multi use box.
[15:48] <KM0201> ..
[15:48] <roasted> KM0201: I use it heavily for torrents. I also run video surveillance on it. etc.
[15:48] <KM0201> i'm more confused now
[15:48] <roasted> but it's running raid and it's where I rsync my data to.
[15:49] <KM0201> so why not juse use it as a file server, and then use it a desktop/laptop for general purposes?
[15:49] <roasted> it's a low powered box, significantly lower powered than my desktop. That's why I use it for torrents and video surveillance since it runs all the time.
[15:49] <roasted> then I use my personal desktop for whatever else.
[15:50] <KM0201> ok.
[15:50] <KM0201> so... maybe i'm misunderstanding
[15:50] <KM0201> why do you want to put a desktop OS on it?
[15:50] <roasted> honestly, just for managing torrents.
[15:50] <roasted> remote in, see what's running, etc.
[15:51] <roasted> it's not like the gui is hurting anything
[15:51] <KM0201> if it's just for managing torrents, you can probably set up either a simple Ubuntu server, or if you want a webUI, openmediavault is based on debian, and pretty easy
[15:51] <MrChrisDruif> roasted; ever tried deluge's console view?
[15:51] <MrChrisDruif> deluge-console
[15:51] <KM0201> no, its probably not hurting anything, but it makes very little sense
[15:51] <roasted> MrChrisDruif: I have not.
[15:52] <roasted> It's a dual core box with a gig of RAM. I don't see what the issue is about running a GUI on it.
[15:52] <MrChrisDruif> It also has a WebUI apparently
[15:52] <KM0201> transmission-daemon has a really easy webUI... if you use that to run your torrents.
[15:52] <KM0201> (thats what i use.
[15:52] <MrChrisDruif> Ugh, transmission
[15:52] <KM0201> i like it
[15:52] <MrChrisDruif> (Slow as hell)
[15:52] <roasted> If I was trying to squeeze a file server on 128mb of RAM I can see that argument being more warranted.
[15:52] <roasted> or, if say, I was running it in an enterprise environment
[15:52] <roasted> but, I'm not. so, gui. :D
[15:53] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: i dunno, it's always been plenty fast for me
[15:55] <KM0201> i dunno, i've got a good amount of experience on Ubuntu-server and the desktop OS's (as i recently just rebuilt my server), and to me, it makes zero sense to have a gUI on a fileserver
[15:56] <tata> I have Lubuntu 11.10 and  now install gnome alsa mixer but not work, why?
[15:57] <KM0201> why did you install gnome-alsamixer?
[15:58] <tata> because i need some mixer and this mixer is good work on lubuntu 10.04
[15:59] <tata> and it is also in synaptic packing
[15:59] <roasted> KM0201: I would typically agree. But I do use this system for quite a lot where having the GUI is nice.
[16:00] <roasted> I have 3 monitors on my desk, 1 for this box and 2 for my desktop. Makes it nice just to easily see across 3 screens what's up.
[16:00] <KM0201> tata: i really don't know.. never used gnome-alsamixer
[16:00] <roasted> originally I wanted all 3 monitors on my main desktop but it seems as if linux and gpu drivers are a little poor in that department unless you have identical graphics cards. (I did not, eh)
[16:00] <tata> it is simple and very good, but in lu 10.04
[16:03] <tata> why not opperate in Lubuntu 11.10?
[16:06] <[S]coop> Hi guys =)
[16:06] <[S]coop> One question, is it possible to reorder the main menu ? How ?
[16:11] <[S]coop> Just found my answer, Google is definitely m best friend, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu =P
[16:12] <KM0201> [S]coop: menu editing is one of those areas where lxde could do much better
[16:13] <[S]coop> Thanks KM0201, I just discovered it. But it's not so bad.
[16:13] <KM0201> [S]coop: it's not "so bad"... but it could be much better
[16:14] <KM0201> editing a configuration file to make menu changes, is very annoying
[16:14] <[S]coop> +1
[16:16] <[S]coop> http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/ can handle it, have to check that
[16:40] <rocky> my irc channel listing keeps getting longer and longger
[16:41] <Unit193> Try using /part ?
[20:54] <sheenzz> what's up
[20:59] <sheenzz> doesnt no one use this?
[21:01] <phillw> sheenzz: this channel is for support, general chat is on #lubuntu-offtopic
[21:02] <sheenzz> oh
[21:03] <KM0201> it's quiet here because nobody has any problems.. :)
[21:03] <sheenzz> ah i do
[21:03] <KM0201> well, then by all means, share it
[21:04] <sheenzz> oh i have lubuntu 10.10 but i want lubuntu 11.10 how do i get it?
[21:04] <cowmix> I just have to say that Lubuntu saved my sanity.. thank you Lubuntu team!
[21:04] <KM0201> sheenzz: upgrade 10.10 to 11.04, then 11.04 to 11.10
[21:04] <Unit193> cowmix: Glad you like it.
[21:06] <sheenzz> by going in what
[21:07] <KM0201> !upgrade | sheenzz
[21:08] <sheenzz> oh thanks much, by the way i like lubuntu so easy to use and comfortable time
[21:08] <sheenzz> =)
[21:09] <KM0201> i love it
[21:10] <sheenzz> oh what do ubuntu mean again
[21:10] <KM0201> what does it mean?
[21:10] <KM0201> i have no idea
[21:10] <KM0201> probably some sort of "peace and harmony"
[21:11] <pAt__> Humanity
[21:11] <KM0201> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
[21:11] <sheenzz> i think it's humanity toward others
[21:12] <KM0201> i dunno
[21:13] <phillw> http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/
[21:13] <KM0201> to me, it means "virus free computing"
[21:13] <phillw> amongst other things.
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> sheenzz: Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning : "Can't install Debian".
[21:13] <pAt__> To me it means no need of make files anymore :D
[21:13] <KM0201> that to.. for sure
[21:14] <KM0201> bodhi_zazen: lol, been a while since i heard that one
[21:14] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[21:14] <phillw> lol bodhi_zazen I think Nelson Mandela himself gave the best description I have even heard :) http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDkQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DODQ4WiDsEBQ&ei=ANxwT7H7H8S08QO654XADQ&usg=AFQjCNHGd_OvwNnzRfypVtgygAMsTxKjQw
[21:14] <sheenzz> yeah, i am now updating my os just learn how to
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> A person with ubuntu is open and available to others, affirming of others, does not feel threatened that others are able and good, for he or she has a proper self-assurance that comes from knowing that he or she belongs in a greater whole and is diminished when others are humiliated or diminished, when others are tortured or oppressed. ~ Archbishop Desmond Tutu, 1999
[21:16] <sheenzz> Km0201: what do you mean?
[21:16] <KM0201> what do i mean?
[21:18] <sheenzz> about no more need to make filies
[21:18] <KM0201> sheenzz: i didn't say that, someone else did, but if i understood himc orrectly, he doesn't have to compile software any longer (because ubuntu's repos are packed w/ software)
[21:19] <pAt__> Exactly
[21:20] <KM0201> anybody else using 12.04?
[21:20] <sheenzz> oh
[21:20] <bodhi_zazen> KM0201: not only am I using 12.04 , but I build a custom 12.04 iso =)
[21:21] <KM0201> lol
[21:22] <sheenzz> bodhi_zazen: nice
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/ubuntu-gma500-live-cd/
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> screenshots ^^
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> I was planning a custom lubuntu spin , but my kernel bug was accepted so no need =)
[21:24] <KM0201> http://imagebin.org/205277
[21:24] <KM0201> i just keep mine w/ a sexy simplicty
[21:24] <KM0201> *simplicity
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> Nice KM0201
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> http://bodhizazen.net/img/gentoo.png
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> That is my current gentoo desktop
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> Openbox + tint2 + conky
[21:25] <sheenzz> can you like print screen it and send it to mi
[21:25] <sheenzz> me
[21:26] <bodhi_zazen> printscreen of what sheenzz ?
[21:27] <sheenzz> your os home page
[21:28] <bodhi_zazen> Which os =)
[21:28] <bodhi_zazen> this - http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/ubuntu-gma500-live-cd/
[21:28] <bodhi_zazen> or Zenix - http://zenix-os.net/index.html
[21:28] <sheenzz> didnt you customize yours?
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> I did, but once was not enough, so I have a few customized OS littering the internet
[21:30] <sheenzz> yeah nice
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> I can send a tar ball or the backgrounds if you wish
[21:31] <sheenzz> send the backgrounds
[21:31] <bodhi_zazen> Which ones do you want ?
[21:33] <KM0201> just put htem on imagebin
[21:34] <sheenzz> any i guess
[22:30] <pcroque> What file do I need to modify in Lubuntu to stop pcmanfm from managing my desktop? I would still like it running in the background to handle events like plugging in a usb device, etc.
[22:54] <sheenzz> how can i updated 10.10 to 11.10?
[23:08] <Xubuntu1204> u can't
[23:09] <Xubuntu1204> first u have to go through 11.04
[23:09] <Xubuntu1204> :p
[23:09] <Xubuntu1204> cause it's not a LTS version
[23:09] <Xubuntu1204> 10.10
[23:09] <Xubuntu1204> same problem here :p
[23:09] <Myrtti> too late...
[23:09] <Myrtti> gone already
[23:23] <ss> olá
[23:23] <ss> tem algum brasileiro
[23:24] <Guest35802> have one brasililian