[00:25] time is slow. i can't wait for ubuntu 12.04 [00:26] boram: get it now [00:26] ;D [00:26] it's beta !? [00:26] so far so good for me [00:26] just test it right now, and report tons of bugs lol [00:27] i don't want bugs to bite me [00:27] they are not too bad for me right now [00:27] plus your making sure that bugs not in 12.04 [00:28] sadly there will always be bugs, but its a very noble effort of course. [00:28] boram: use virtualbox so you can time travel to before the bug bit you [00:28] essentially yes they are unavoidable [00:28] electric sheeps buggy as hell [00:29] so no one else is having menu bar bugs? [00:29] i can never get the rewrite to compile [00:29] Dmole: what kind of menu bar bugs ? [00:29] i have cairo-dock bugs [00:29] xfce4-menu works good though, as usual [00:30] xfce seem to be quiet these days [00:30] lxde is more hot [00:30] lxde is fugly [00:30] but yes functional [00:36] * glosoli happy with default Ubuntu setup === stephen is now known as Guest57821 === Guest57821 is now known as smw_ [01:17] How would one register a protocol handler in unity? === haz3lnut_zzz is now known as haz3lnut [01:37] Why is it that 12.04 won't show the desktop in the "Ubuntu" profile without using the guest session, but will in the "Ubuntu 2D" profile? [01:37] At most, it shows the mouse and you may see the desktop background. [01:38] Running in 2D, everything is fine. === diegovieiraeti is now known as Guest92789 === Guest92789 is now known as diegovieiraeti [02:22] is it easy to dual boot the new kubuntu 12:04 with ubuntu 11:10 === diegovieiraeti_ is now known as diegovieiraeti [02:34] Hello :) after the last update I lost my network card... sort of... I had to enable my integrated one which works fine [02:35] Network Manager says Device not ready for my PCI network card === haz3lnut is now known as haz3lnut_zzz === Eledran is now known as zz_Eledran [06:41] pangolin [06:41] anyone here have a laptop with pangolin [06:52] yes [06:52] what's that? [07:03] hrrr. How do I use skype in unity? it starts minimised to tray, its not in the message indicator? [07:03] double click? [07:04] tr0n: double click what? [07:04] the icon [07:05] tr0n: I can start it. just that unity doesnt have a tray anymore... [07:05] dash home > search for skype [07:07] then click on it [07:08] I did. skype starts, but is minimised to "tray" in the settings - but unity does not have a tray anymore.... [07:09] hmm [07:13] tr0n: got it [07:13] see comment 4 http://askubuntu.com/questions/74229/how-to-access-skype-in-unity [07:15] appl/mac is for faggots [07:16] seven1: please keep the comments to a family friendly level [07:16] haha yep [07:16] i say what i want jussi [07:16] i bet your a fat nerd [07:16] hahaha [08:05] hrm, is there any way to adjust the size of the unity launcher bar ? [08:05] ie, I'd like it a trfle smaller. [08:07] not that i know of [09:16] hello all, has anyone been having issues with the multi monitor setup randomly loosing it's setup and switching back to low res mirror setup. this happens to me about 3 -5 times a day for no reason. It has been ongoing for about as long as 12.04 has been in development [10:22] I used janitor to clean up the system and also unneeded configs now I am stuck at grub and it will not boot? [11:07] I used janitor to clean up the system and also unneeded configs now I am stuck at grub and it will not boot? [11:10] Volkodav1, do you remember - what - you removed? [11:10] Janitor was removed from the default install because it was breaking systems. [11:11] rough cleaner [11:14] Daekdroom: all configs it pointed as unneeded [11:15] I did it from Ubuntu tweak - there is janitor still left there damn it [11:15] all of them [11:15] should I try alternative CD to repair a system ? [11:15] Well I guess It would be either the grub.cfg or kernels/initramfs.. [11:16] I see grub's entries though [11:16] So is there an error then? [11:16] no error since entries in grub are not responsive [11:17] just the menu - it boots other systems though [11:18] [E] ... [ctrl] + [X] on one of the entries? [11:31] arand: have to reboot to try - brb [11:31] That should at least give an error [11:32] ok thanks will try now and boot another machine for easier diagnostics [11:40] arand: did not work - grub editor opened on e and then closed back to menu on Ctrl+X [11:42] Volkodav: Hmm, well, try chrooting into the system and run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" [11:43] thanks [11:45] "mount /dev/sdX# /mnt; mount /dev/sdX# /mnt/boot; mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc; mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys; chroot /mnt" should be it I think, with sudo. [11:45] Omit mounting /boot if you don't have a separate /boot partition [11:55] i do [11:55] have /boot [11:59] having a /boot is differnt then having your /boot/ on its own partition. [12:01] /boot is on a separate partition [12:02] then you will most likely want to mount it to the proper location befor chrooting as shown above === rigved is now known as Guest94829 [12:08] when i need test ubuntu 12.04 in VB gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/900327/ [12:14] you need to enable PAE [12:19] hello, the kubuntu alternate iso for amd64 doesn't fit on a cd, isn't that a bug? [12:19] drbobb, common 'bug' during beta testing [12:20] not much I can do other that waste a dvd-r, huh? [12:23] i always use usb [12:24] set up grub2 to boot iso file. copy new isos over as needed. [12:28] Or DVD-rw ❤ [12:34] should xubuntu daily built work for chroot or I need to burn fresh ubuntu beta? mine is alpha 2 [12:45] arand: I booted from alternate cd and it gave me shell in repair system option so I mounted / and /boot and reconfigure grub failed asking if /dev is mounted I mounted it on /mnt/dev [12:46] update-burgpc went ok though [12:46] Volkodav: You need to mount proc and probably sys as well [12:47] hi, will Mate DE work on 12.04? [12:48] it should not really matter if it's xubuntu's disc right ? [12:48] Volkodav: Since you need to chroot, it likely does [12:49] Also, if you are using BURG, then all bets are off, it's a fork of grub that I know nothing about [12:50] it's based on grub and hardly any different under the hood [12:51] so I'm better off burning a fresh ubuntu beta disc or daily build and chroot from there? or alternate CD ? [12:52] You can chrott from anywhere, doesn't matter, as long as you're not crossing different arches, and remember to mount all pieces. [12:52] *chroot [12:53] then xubuntu cd should work and it did [12:55] the difference is that I mounted / and /boot as in fstab [12:55] not on /mnt - does that make a difference if I mount the rest on /mnt ? [12:55] Ah, yeah, I re-read your above comments, I was thinking you were saying that you didn't need to mount /proc since it was the same, not asking if the xubuntu CD was ok :) [12:56] Volkodav: You need to mount it all in one place as if the "/" was "/mnt" [12:56] I got it thanks [12:57] except /boot which should be the actual separate partition it is on [12:58] You mount the /boot under /mnt/boot along with the others, in order for grub to see it whilst inside the chroot [13:20] arand: I managed to boot with Super grub2 CD and it turned out to be a borked BURG, so I just purge it and stick with grub [13:23] I really though I killed the system with janitor but it's all good === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:58] humm, any easy way to check why i can't login? (i'm using the same /home as with oneiric) [13:58] it simply takes me back to the login-screen once i try to log in via lightdm. the guest-account works though [14:03] has anyone used dotdeb installs for php and mysql and now having problems updating to ubuntu 12? how to proceed? I am getting this error http://pastie.org/3671477 [14:05] cordoval: I was under the impression that dotdeb was for debian, not Ubuntu. [14:06] it is however there is a compile I think and a blog post for that, I did it sometime ago, they have support for that [14:06] Pici: the need was that the php for default ubuntu packages was old [14:06] i needed 5.3.7 or something greater [14:06] however the main thing now is I want to go 12 and i can't, I wish someone can point me in the right direction [14:07] cordoval: Okay, and 12.04 has 5.3.10. [14:07] yeah that is perfect [14:07] I want to forget all about dotdeb, please take me to 12 I beg you, can you help me? [14:08] cordoval: You'd need to remove your conflicting packages. [14:09] how to do that, how to proceed, I think is just the mysql thing [14:10] hello all, has anyone been having issues with the multi monitor setup randomly loosing it's setup and switching back to low res mirror setup. this happens to me about 3 -5 times a day for no reason. It has been ongoing for about as long as 12.04 has been in development [14:10] The data in the mysql-client-5.5 package that you got from dotdeb conflicts with the data in mysql-client-core Ubuntu package. You'd need to remove the dotdeb package to continue. You can do that with dpkg --remove [14:12] Pici: which one though https://gist.github.com/19bcc24bc7dc61252211 [14:13] cordoval: at least mysql-client-5.5 at this point. [14:15] Pici: if everything breaks i can always reinstall and that is it right? i am just fearful this will not bring up anymore [14:16] Pici: https://gist.github.com/301d075f720dd1cdac85 [14:19] my knees are shaking [14:20] cordoval: You'll need to remove all of those then. [14:22] ok i am also told that I need to unlock dpkg db [14:22] do you know if that makes sense? [14:27] hey guys.. ctrl+alt+del no longer brings up the logoff dialog UI ,, anyone have a command for that? [14:29] hrm after logging in today my graphics are all wonky, weird graphical effects on an intel sandybridge graphics chip (laptop) ... anyone else see anything like this? [14:36] I will come back to this another time [14:36] thanks Pici [14:50] i am not able to install any package, always got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/900566/ does anyone could help me? [14:55] I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 server beta and hanging on "Configuring keyboard-configuration". How can I get past this? [14:58] Can someone confirm an issue for me? I used Dvorak as my main keyboard layout, but I keep the normal keyboard layout in second position so I can easily switch it. Everything is defaulting to the normal layout even though I have Dvorak as the top layout. This was not the case in Lucid. [15:03] is there a way to install base system? === h00k_ is now known as h00k [15:04] woo, unity is ugly today. [15:04] h00k: today? :P [15:04] Pici: er, well, flickery with Intel chipsets :) [15:05] h00k, yeah i observed the same thing ... unusable, had to go back to gnome classic :( [15:05] I just did gnome-shell temporarily. [15:07] well having no compiz makes it work [15:09] h00k, but it's good to know someone else is having the problem, was worried my graphics adapter was dying lol [15:09] rocky: nah, same here on a laptop and netbook [15:09] both have Intel chipsets [15:09] I'm not even going to fuel the fire.... ^_^ [15:10] cool [15:30] <_d4vid> how stable is 12.04? [15:30] <_d4vid> ready to use= [15:30] <_d4vid> ? [15:30] <_d4vid> use for web surfing and play games.. [15:31] <_d4vid> play under wine [15:31] _d4vid; for me stable enough, still sometimes do the upgrades break stuff that wasn't broken [15:31] * MrChrisDruif doesn't use wine so can't confirm or deny there [15:31] <_d4vid> ok [15:31] <_d4vid> who play games under wine? [15:32] <_d4vid> please tell me how stable is 12.04 [15:32] _d4vid, dont repeat [15:32] <_d4vid> bazhang, sorry [15:32] _d4vid, its beta, not very stable [15:32] <_d4vid> ok [15:33] <_d4vid> thanks [15:33] _d4vid, wine questions? apps? #winehq [15:36] _d4vid: It's fine on a spare partition or spare machine. [15:38] <_d4vid> ок [15:38] anyone know where network-manager stores its saved wired/wireless/vpn settings? and how to get kubuntu 12.04 to display the icon so you cna quickly switch profiles with out having to go to system settings first [15:38] <_d4vid> thanks guys === x4 is now known as Guest39014 [15:47] Whiskey`Wonka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480826 [15:47] I dont think things have changed [15:50] yay ok got all my old network configs [15:50] ty philinux [15:50] now, any idea why the igksudo nautilus /etc/NetworkManagercon isnt showing in the system tray? [15:51] I'm trying to install 12.04 on a original centrino laptop (pentium-M). Apparently the new kernel requies pae instructions be built into the CPU. So when I boot the CD, the kernel won't load because the CPU doesn't support pae. Requiring PAE seems like a dumb move imho, there are plenty of PC's out there still with chips that don't support PAE instruction set,l let alone need them (4+gb of ram on 32bit). Is there someway I can use an option on loading [15:51] the CD to disable pae, or maybe there is another kernel on the disk for non-pae? It seems it wouldve been better to make pae-enabled an option rather than forcing it on people and alienating a userbase === EyesIsServer is now known as IAMACorrect [15:54] n0yd: that's interesting, I thought the installer detected if you needed pae or not and used the correct kernel, that maybe changed for 12.04. [15:54] From what I'm reading (i havent used ubuntu in ages, been using debian) the other version of ubuntu did not have it required, merely an option [15:54] Dulak, i have 1GB on these machines [15:54] I have 5 toughbooks sitting here waiting for ubuntu [15:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE [15:55] looks like 12.04 thing [15:55] I have not tried to install 12.04 on my older machines, they run Lucid and it correctly selected the non-pae kernel for those at install time. [15:55] sadly... [15:55] http://askubuntu.com/questions/103280/is-there-any-version-of-ubuntu-that-does-not-require-pae [15:56] thats crazy, default kernel in 12l.04 requires PAE [15:56] thatr is crazy, thats killing a whole userset === IAMACorrect is now known as EyesIsMine [15:58] pae should be an option as to not force users that are upgrading with old hardware to NOT use ubuntu. Besides, most people with a need for PAE are going to be going 64bit anyway, which is gaining in popularity constantly. So with normal i386 installs already becoming less popular, why kill it even more? === Guest39014 is now known as x4 [15:59] The thing that irks me the most is these laptops won't boot from [15:59] DVD media for some reason. And I just used my last CD to boot 12.04. So now I gotta setup PXE botting just to get another distro installed [16:00] apparently there is a non-pae minicd, but that does me no good with no more media compatible media for these machines :( [16:01] Hmm.. [16:01] Something about fglrx causes the windows' title in Ubuntu to fail to change title, color, etc. [16:02] Hmm, so xubuntu reveted back to non-pae? but ubuntu is still forcing it? jeez [16:07] n0yd: the non-pae kernel is supposed to be dropped completely in 12.10 (they actually wanted to drop it for 12.04), bug 897786 [16:07] Launchpad bug 897786 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Q-series) "Kernel is dropping non-PAE flavour" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897786 [16:08] trism, great. thats rediculous [16:08] Might as well take a ton of current users and count them out [16:08] That's some microsoft games quite frankly. Design software so the userbase HAS TO upgrade [16:08] Lovely... [16:09] As I said, in 95 percent of the cases where PAE would be needed, most people would be going to 64bit anyway [16:10] It makes no sense to alienate a bug chunk of the userbasxe when they could merely make it an option, not a requirement [16:10] n0yd: there is a bug for similar hardware as yours but it is marked won't fix, bug 930447 [16:10] Launchpad bug 930447 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unable to Install Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium M x86 Laptop due to PAE kernel" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930447 [16:10] A machine doesnt need 4GB to boot into an installer [16:11] trism, of course its not, it cant be fixed unless they include an option for a seperate kernel on disk === zz_Eledran is now known as Eledran [16:13] I can't figure out how to get the status of a package that I need (to make my internal mic work). It's linux-backports-modules-alsa-* [16:13] Simply make the install media non-pae on boot (or add an option in the special options F6 or whatever it is at least). Then during install have it autodetect if the machine needs a pae kernel because it has 4GB+ of ram (cause god forbid the installer actually asks, it might _confuse_ people? ram? what ram? I dont drive a dodge pickup!") [16:14] it hasn't worked in 11.10 at all (not since 2.6.* kernel was removed) and 12.04 seems to work well for me so far [16:15] when is the release date? [16:15] !release [16:15] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [16:16] dell: April 26th [16:16] ty philinux [16:17] 12< year, 04< month [16:18] h00k, don't suppose you happen to know which package is the culprit for the wonky intel graphics issue? so i know when i do an update i can watch for that package to be updated? [16:19] rocky: whats the issue you are having? [16:20] rocky: is it flickering on unity? [16:20] jussi: yup [16:20] rocky: do: unity --reset [16:20] should fix it [16:20] (i had same issue) [16:20] oh cool, gotta log out then, brb [16:21] n0yd: na you easily boot from usb [16:21] sigh.... [16:21] use ardu to make the bootable usb stick [16:21] I cant boot from usb [16:21] legacyt hardware [16:21] its /that/ old? [16:21] i usb boot things that are 10 years old [16:21] It's a 1.6Ghz pentium-m [16:22] mmm [16:22] Yes, most machines that old can boot from USB, these devices cannot [16:22] eek [16:22] oh really, jussi, I'll try that [16:22] checked for bios updates? [16:22] Of course [16:22] Panasonic has some of the worst support for their devices ive seen [16:23] joy [16:23] cd-rw time [16:24] jussi: looks like that did the trick [16:24] i guess im just gonna use PXE on these [16:25] n0yd: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-November/034399.html [16:25] rocky: great :) [16:25] My plan is to get Linux on these things and give them to a friend of mine who teaches computers in a local high school [16:25] They are old US govt toughbooks that were declassified and decommisioned and I got them for next to nothing [16:26] jussi, well, thats obviously wrong [16:27] n0yd: Lucid runs great on my old machines, if you don't want to compile your own non-pae kernel [16:27] n0yd: I suggest you read the whole tread [16:27] Aparently all Pentium-M's do not support PAE, not just the 400mhz model or whatever hes trying to say [16:27] mind, tim knows what he is tslking about [16:27] actually that brings up an interesting point... at home i have an old pentium3 i want to use as my mediaserver connected to my tv but i find most recent ubuntu releases are a bit too heavy weight for it... what's a good distro to run say xbmc in barebones mode on ? [16:28] jussi, Im not going to waste my time, I'm just going to find a distro that works. Reading about why some ubuntu developer doesnt want to support non-pae hardware isnt going to magically make my hardware work. [16:28] rocky: thats a bit offtopic for here, probably #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux ;) [16:28] hehe [16:28] * rocky wanders off [16:28] n0yd: debian ;) [16:28] He already wrong in what he says. 400mhz pentium-m? wtf [16:28] jussi, as stated above [16:29] Ive used debian for years (since before ubuntu was even around). I guess I will just have to come up with another solution for easing new users into Linux from Windows [16:32] jussi: worked here. [16:32] h00k: :) [16:32] jussi: huh, I wonder what/why. [16:33] Things advance. Change happens, and railing against it is a bit childish. I think they should have waited till the next LTS to drop non-pae, but that's ok, I will run lucid until EOL and then EOL my old hardware. [16:33] jussi: worked on both machines. [16:33] jussi: thanks. [16:33] It's an excuse to get new super fast cool computers and push down my existing machine(s) [16:44] There are disrtos with 'low end hardware' being their focus. - You cant always be tied to the past. [16:48] Wow, great excuse [16:54] HEllo [16:56] I didn't test and use precise yet but I am hoping it will be better than 11.10. What's yours oppinion on that (and precise)? [16:56] is faster, stable etc [16:57] Jorky: mine is that stick to 11.10 [16:57] why? [16:58] Jorky: so far, its a bit sharp on the edge [16:58] what are the reasons? [16:58] no I mean when final release will come? [16:58] i dunno when final is, read it somepalce [16:58] ok bitch [16:59] O_o [16:59] Jorky, no cursing here [16:59] Jorky: Mind your language and attitude here please. [16:59] sorry [16:59] Final is targetted for april 26, iirc [17:00] You did Dulak [17:01] no shit, I alredy know that I just wanna know your's firs impresions on precise as testers [17:01] Jorky, dont curse [17:04] so no impressions than [17:04] lamers [17:04] bye I see that ubuntu comunity isn't so nice as it says [17:05] fuck ubuntu we have other distros [17:05] bye [17:16] Im not sure the comunity needs people like that joining us.... [17:17] Yeah, I answered his question and he attacked. Complete downer. [17:18] You needed better impressions... [17:18] I updated one of my systems to ubuntu-server 12.04 beta, and now cups won't broadcast the attached printers anymore. I have checked that the cups config file is the same as earlier, and haven't been able to find anything that addresses this issue. I also created a fresh install of 12.04 and found the same problem. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? [17:18] I updated one of my systems to ubuntu-server 12.04 beta, and now cups won't broadcast the attached printers anymore. I have checked that the cups config file is the same as earlier, and haven't been able to find anything that addresses this issue. I also created a fresh install of 12.04 and found the same problem. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? [17:18] check your cups logs for starters [17:18] anyone in the ormond/daytona area interested in getting a release party setup [17:19] maybe even port orange area [17:22] shaneo: You probably be better off asking in Florida's loco team channel (#ubuntu-us-fl), they've been rather active in the past, so they probably do have at least one release party setup. [17:22] oh lol thought that was where i was sorry the chan is right under this one [17:22] is activity-log-manager going to be default in precise? [17:23] !find activity-log-manager [17:23] Found: activity-log-manager-common, activity-log-manager-control-center, activity-log-manager [17:24] !info activity-log-manager [17:24] activity-log-manager (source: activity-log-manager): blacklist configuration user interface for Zeitgeist. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 70 kB, installed size 217 kB (Only available for any all) [17:24] lotuspsychje, see above [17:24] bazhang: would zeitgeist still be default then? [17:25] optional right [17:25] a handy tool it is [17:25] hey guys does ubuntu by default on amd versions check both 86 and 64 repos or is there something wrong with my sources [17:26] cant say ive ever noticed shaneo [17:26] never really noticed there being 2 differnt repos for the bittness. :) [17:26] shaneo: By default only the arch that you're running. But multi-arch with foreign arch can be a different thing. pastebin, please? [17:27] shaneo; I never really paid attention seeing I have a 64 install [17:27] ok 1 sec [17:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/900806/ [17:29] i guess i could be running 86_64 but i d/l the amd64 iso [17:29] been running it a long time but just now noticing it [17:30] uname -p [17:32] yup its x86_64 so i guess that answers my question [17:32] ^_^ [17:35] Every once in a while my internet connection crawls to a hold and my xchat reports massive lag, can someone help me diagnose my connection? [17:50] MrChrisDruif: your tubes are clogged [17:51] Hmm, how do I clean them? [18:11] hi, i figured out how to disable the super key binding in unity, but is there a way to disable the alt key binding? i want to stop having that "type your command" whenever i hit alt [18:14] msch_: you can disable it in ccsm in the unity plugin 'Key to show HUD', although I have heard that may break other things, don't know if that is still the case [18:14] trism: does that also work for unity-2d? [18:15] msch_: no, sorry, see bug 947613 [18:15] Launchpad bug 947613 in unity-2d "Alt key summoning HUD needs to be configurable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947613 [18:16] trism: ok, np, glad that it's a confirmed bug. does that mean that it'll be fixed before precise is released? [18:17] Not necessarily ;-) [18:17] If more than one person is affected it is automatically confirmed on launchpad [18:18] hello I need support for windows 95 [18:19] fernandocueva, pardon? [18:19] you ever heard of the game destruction derby [18:20] fernandocueva, how does that relate to ubuntu support [18:20] sorry sorry I'll ask differently, you know ubuntu comes with open office right [18:20] libreoffice actually [18:21] is that how it goes now [18:21] fernandocueva, what does any of this have to do with windows 95 [18:21] that question was for another channel sorry [18:21] Is there a way to setup multiple monitors in Unity without using Twinview from nvidia-settings? I want the extra control from the Display screens (hide the launcher on my second monitor etc..) [18:23] I just created a plain text document to save some notes and when I try to open it with word processor it is asking me for ascii filter options [18:23] open office? [18:39] yes [18:41] #openoffice.org fernandocueva [18:41] cool [18:53] no one is answering there [19:11] hello [19:12] I'm curious and want to install 12.04 as my main os, is it relatively stable for everyday use ? === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [19:14] dansul: well, as it is beta, it's enough stable for me, but from time to time some minor bugs occur [19:14] :) [19:14] eat the damn bug [19:14] i'm convinced [19:15] I'm gonna make the move once I get my laptop back working [19:15] fernandocueva: ? [19:15] last time I used 12.04 (a month or 2 ago) I had tons of kernel crash errors lol [19:16] dansul: for example, my asus laptop even finally got all the acpi keys working, unlikely in any release before when I had to use scripts :) [19:16] PatrickC, did you install it on a notebook or pc ? [19:16] laptop [19:16] I see [19:17] I know they are still working on one of the major kernel bugs I found as I stop get emails every now and then about it lol [19:18] Do you happen to have the link to the bug report? [19:19] probably in my email [19:19] does this work for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/914319$ [19:19] Launchpad bug 914319 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "NULL pointer dereference at sd_revalidate_disk+0x30/0x2a0" [High,Fix released] [19:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/914319 [19:21] seems to be fixed thanks [19:21] I had like 4 kernel crashes in 20 min when I was using 12.03 [19:21] 12.04* [19:21] so I went back to 11.10 ;) [19:21] I'm using 10.04 [19:22] I have some friends still on 10.04 [19:22] can you upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 directly ? [19:22] maybe via sudo apt-get upgrade ? [19:23] wans't it distro-upgrade the command [19:23] hmm.. might have been [19:23] that sounds better then upgrade :P [19:23] without going to 11.10 ? [19:23] I think you can.. not sure though [19:24] right now I'm booted off of a LIve USB or I would try it lol [19:24] my HDD seems to hate me. so trying to fix it [19:27] thats better [19:27] on the desktop now [19:31] is anyone else having problems with audio recently? [19:34] adjusting the volume causes sound to crash [19:43] I updated one of my systems to ubuntu-server 12.04 beta, and now cups won't broadcast the attached printers anymore. I have checked that the cups config file is the same as earlier, and haven't been able to find anything that addresses this issue. I also created a fresh install of 12.04 and found the same problem. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? [19:44] It receives broadcasts just fine, just doesn't send any. [19:47] doug_: i don't quite follow what you mean by braodcasts fine but doesn't send any [19:47] so you have a printer set up, and set it to shared, but other cups instances won't pick it up? [19:47] or they see it but when you print it fails? [19:47] I said, it receives broadcasts fine (i,e. broadcasts from other cups servers) but won't send any related to it's own printers. [19:48] can you pastebin your cups config file? [19:49] I'm talking about the every-30 sec broadcasts telling other systems what printers are connected. Was working fine until I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and the broadcasts stopped. [19:51] I made sure the original cupsd.conf file was still intact (i.e., the upgrade didn't replace it), but still no-go. [19:59] cups behaviour has changed a bit with the new versions [19:59] just pastebin your config file [20:02] anybody knows why ubuntu stopped using openoffice? [20:04] TheSimkin: Sorry, on phone [20:04] so my window manager has died during the upgrade to precise [20:04] is this a known failure? [20:05] fernandocueva: isn't it using libreoffice? [20:05] yes it does now [20:06] fernandocueva: oh you mean why libreoffice instead of openoffice? libreoffice is openoffice basically. it forked from open office when oracle aqcuired it [20:08] thedonvaughn, so open office is not open source anymore [20:11]