[07:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:49] <jussi> o/
[10:31] <cjohnston> mornin
[10:46] <jussi> good morning!
[10:47] <jussi> cjohnston: go over to mhall119's place and wake him up, I want to complain to him about Unity :P :P :P
[10:47] <imbrandon> jussi: comlain some for me too
[10:47] <imbrandon> :)
[10:48] <nigelb> jussi: complaining about unity wakes him up.
[10:48] <jussi> heh
[10:48] <jussi> I actually like it lots, just some little things that annoy me :D
[10:48]  * jussi is trying it on the work pc
[10:48] <imbrandon> yea tooo many little things for me, stickin to kde and osx
[10:48] <imbrandon> :)
[10:49] <imbrandon> i broke down and put xfce in a vm, thats about as close as i get for now
[10:49] <jussi> like the drag and drop is badly broken. in KDE, I can drag a file from dolphin, hover over a icon, it will open up that program and I can drp the the file into the new program.
[10:51] <imbrandon> yea there are many things i could go on for days,but wont
[10:51] <imbrandon> i mean its "ok" but not worth the effort, its more worth my time to tweak kde the way i want it
[10:51] <imbrandon> and 99% of the time i'm in osx anyhow
[10:51] <cjohnston> lol.. I'm only about 20 minutes away from him right now
[10:52] <imbrandon> me ?
[10:52] <jussi> it is definately something Id put on the in laws PC... if moonlight supported that horrible silverlight drm - which it doesnt
[10:52] <jussi> (but my inlaws "must have")
[10:53] <imbrandon> nah, i put it on my stepdads , actually he's been running gnome since dapper
[10:53] <imbrandon> and just bought a mac cuz he hated unity
[10:53] <imbrandon> and he is 72
[10:53] <imbrandon> lol
[10:53] <jussi> imbrandon: you could have just installed gnoome panel for him...
[10:53] <imbrandon> i did, but by that time he had his mind made up
[10:54] <imbrandon> he is actualyl good, knows how to package apps and such
[10:54] <imbrandon> just dont hang on forums and irc
[10:54] <jussi> oh, cool
[10:54] <imbrandon> suprised the hell outa me for a 72 year old
[10:54] <imbrandon> lol
[10:54] <imbrandon> but yea he took to dapper like it was water and learned a ton
[10:54] <imbrandon> never used linux before then
[10:55] <imbrandon> but if your retired and got nothing better to do either ...
[10:55] <imbrandon> lol
[10:55] <imbrandon> he does still dual boot though, but only to a terminal and byobu
[10:56] <imbrandon> tried to show  him vmware, ohhh no
[10:56] <imbrandon> ok gota get some work done, getting side tracked
[10:56] <imbrandon> ttyl :)
[10:56] <jussi> mind, wrt to packaging, I still think we need an online editor for packaging bugs - how easy would it be to log into LP, click the file you want to change, edit, click save and put a reason and it automatically creates a patch, which you can specify a bug to attach to.
[10:56] <imbrandon> hrm
[10:57] <imbrandon> might be intresting
[10:57] <imbrandon> thats similar to the drupal patch queue
[10:57] <imbrandon> its intergrated into git and patches
[10:57] <imbrandon> like that
[10:57] <imbrandon> and makes a branch
[10:57] <jussi> yep
[10:57] <imbrandon> and runs tests
[10:57] <jussi> and you dont need to do any setup, it just works from anywhere with a browser
[10:58] <imbrandon> yea, it makes alot more work for the maintainer
[10:58] <jussi> hrm?
[10:58] <imbrandon> but the contrib is alot less
[10:58] <imbrandon> dunno really how to plain it good, but step through their process
[10:58] <imbrandon> its all open
[10:58] <imbrandon> on modules.drupal.org
[10:58] <imbrandon> just pick any module and gotot the issue quwuw
[10:59] <imbrandon> queue
[10:59]  * jussi assigns nigelb to make it happen :P bwahahah
[10:59] <imbrandon> lol
[10:59] <imbrandon> yea its kinda hard to explain but makes more work for the maintainer(S) but manageable and its a way diff workflow than the old scholler are used to
[10:59] <imbrandon> so you;ll get flack htere
[11:00] <imbrandon> but it makes the crtib almost no barier
[11:00] <imbrandon> so its a tradeoff
[11:00] <imbrandon> one i think is good, but still a trade off
[11:00] <jussi> fair enough
[11:01] <imbrandon> and its not terrible dont get me wrong
[11:01] <imbrandon> but it is noticeable
[11:01] <imbrandon> ok back to work for me
[11:01] <jussi> laters
[11:03] <nigelb> whatever I got vlunteered to do, I nominate cjohnston to do.
[11:03] <nigelb> :P
[11:04] <cjohnston> nope
[11:12] <jussi> nigelb: sorry, t wasnt volunteered, it was voluntelled!
[11:12] <jussi> you have to do it now :P
[11:13] <nigelb> hahah
[11:14] <nigelb> if you can give me 40 hour days, sure
[11:19] <czajkowski> jussi: stop torturing the kid!
[11:19] <jussi> czajkowski: Im NOT! :P
[11:19] <czajkowski> poor child looked tramatised!
[11:22] <jussi> nah, she just likes yo make faces. (and has wind)
[11:22] <czajkowski> :p
[11:30] <mhall119> who's complaining about unity?
[11:45] <jussi> mhall119: me :P
[11:55] <mhall119> jussi: black screen/wallpaper only?
[12:03] <jussi> mhall119: nah, I had flickering like crazy which unity --reset fixed
[12:05] <czajkowski> jussi: every0one did
[12:06] <czajkowski> jussi: bug reported friday adnnupdted early with that fix
[12:06] <jussi> czajkowski: not everyone
[12:09] <jussi> "Bilal Akhtar  -  It worked straightaway for me, no need for reset. Weird."
[12:10] <mhall119> Maybe it only works for unity devs
[12:11] <jussi> hehe
[12:22] <nigelb> It only happens to people who don't know how to fix it.
[12:40] <jussi> mhall119: btw, do you know what happened to clipper?
[12:51] <mhall119> jussi: no, is that a clipboard manager?
[12:52] <jussi> mhall119: yes
[12:52] <mhall119> I've been using Glipper for years now
[12:55] <jussi> oh, it works. lol
[12:55] <jussi> sigh, why isnt this in by default?
[12:58] <mhall119> why isn't what in?
[13:00] <jussi> mhall119: glipper in ubuntu by default. I had to install it a few mins ago
[13:00] <mhall119> jussi: probably because most people won't use it
[13:01] <mhall119> also it needs a mono-color icon for it's indicator
[13:01] <jussi> really? o.O Its like in my top 10 used apps...
[13:01] <mhall119> jussi: mine too
[13:01] <jussi> yes, and a nice integrated menu colour
[13:01] <mhall119> but my parents still highlight and choose copy/paste from menus :(
[13:03] <jussi> mhall119: hehe, mine do not, but I know people that do :/
[13:04] <mhall119> a part of me dies when I see someone go to the menus instead of ctrl+c/ctrl+v
[13:04] <jussi> mhall119: I have a strange habit of right click -> copy, but thats mostly because I still have the mouse in my hand.
[13:15] <nigelb> mhall119: I don't use Ctrl +c/Ctrl +v
[13:15] <nigelb> I use Cmd :D
[13:16] <Pici> shift/ctrl-ins
[13:16] <mhall119> nigelb: it's like I don't even know you anymore
[13:16] <nigelb> mhall119: haha
[13:16] <nigelb> my servers still run ubuntu
[13:28] <jcastro> oh hey, reminder
[13:28] <jcastro> <--- at a conference from tomorrow until friday
[13:28] <jcastro> so if you need me for something, today is your day!
[13:29] <cjohnston> Not allowed jcastro
[13:29] <jcastro> cjohnston, woooo
[13:31] <cjohnston> What conference jcastro ?
[13:33] <jcastro> POSSCON
[13:34] <cjohnston> sweet
[13:34] <nigelb> jcastro: Do you know who's coming down for Ubuntu Cloud Day?
[13:35] <jcastro> no idea
[13:35] <jcastro> prakash maybe?
[13:35] <nigelb> jcastro: Yeah, but tech folks.
[13:38]  * jussi thinks about what things he could "need" jcastro for... :P
[13:45] <imbrandon> nigelb: ME! j/k , well I am but i'm no one :P
[13:46] <nigelb> imbrandon: you are coming down?
[13:46] <nigelb> srsly?
[13:46] <imbrandon> i was gonna be near there, thought about crashing you guys
[13:47] <imbrandon> so not really attending but i may pop in for a lil bit
[13:47] <nigelb> imbrandon: if you do make it, let's plan to catch up :)
[13:47] <imbrandon> kk
[13:47] <nigelb> I live in Bangalore... at least for the next few months.
[13:47] <imbrandon> wow heh
[13:48] <nigelb> I dunno if I'll mkae it to the event itself though.
[13:48] <imbrandon> i got to be down in orlando toamrrow afternoon, then i got a little time to kill
[13:48] <imbrandon> not a ton but ya know
[13:48] <imbrandon> err day after tomarrow
[13:49] <imbrandon> wed
[13:50] <imbrandon> maybe i can talk jorge into the Flying Saucer
[13:50] <imbrandon> :)
[13:50] <nigelb> haha
[13:58] <czajkowski> linkedin is rather interesting
[13:58] <czajkowski> and very useful at times
[13:58] <czajkowski> amusing to see people viewing my linkedin profile given there is no way they are viewing it to give me a job
[14:21] <imbrandon> czajkowski: heh
[14:21] <imbrandon> czajkowski: i get that on g+ alot, i have a ton of followers on g+ i have no idea who they are
[14:22] <imbrandon> and twitter, omg no idea about that one, somehow i got 5k followers and i only follow like 150 ppl
[14:22] <imbrandon> crazy
[14:22] <imbrandon> and i dont tweek but like once a week
[14:22] <jussi> imbrandon: you are a "ubuntu celebrity"
[14:22] <jussi> :P
[14:23] <imbrandon> bah, there are bigger rock stars than me, like you and czajkowski  :)
[14:23] <jussi> meh, me a rock star? no way
[14:23] <czajkowski> hah
[14:23] <czajkowski> I'm not
[14:23] <jussi> czajkowski: nah, but you are a superstar
[14:23] <czajkowski> I just find it amusing people watching my activity :)
[14:23] <imbrandon> lol yea
[14:24] <czajkowski> jussi: not the way I'm feeling today
[14:24] <czajkowski> though I did bake a cake at lunch time
[14:24] <jussi> czajkowski: nice
[14:24] <czajkowski> yummy carrot cake with butter icing
[14:24] <imbrandon> czajkowski: so what did ya have for breakfast ? huh ? i'm still waiting on juju to make me some breakfast
[14:24] <imbrandon> hahaha
[14:24] <imbrandon> j/k
[14:24] <jussi> czajkowski: even superstars dont feel great evreryday
[14:24] <jussi> czajkowski: the fact is, you still get stuff done, even when feeling crappy
[14:25] <jussi> imbrandon: juju breakfasts, what a great idea! :D
[14:25] <czajkowski> imbrandon: tea toast standard breakie
[14:25] <czajkowski> and one I can mucnh and sort through mail
[14:25] <czajkowski> trying to get 5 days work done in 4 days
[14:26] <imbrandon> haha i was just playin :)
[14:26] <imbrandon> yea i know the feelin, not for me right now but i've been there many a days
[14:27] <imbrandon> and what is a breakie, i was kinda jokin but now i gotta know :)
[14:27] <imbrandon> ohhhh
[14:27] <imbrandon> never mind
[14:27] <jussi> imbrandon: breakie = breakfast
[14:27] <jussi> :P
[14:27] <imbrandon> yea
[14:27]  * jussi hugs imbrandon
[14:27] <imbrandon> i read it wrong the first time, like that was a 3rd thing to eat
[14:27] <imbrandon> lol
[14:28]  * imbrandon gets more mt dew 
[14:28] <imbrandon> maybe i need to switch to coffee
[14:28] <imbrandon> lol
[14:29]  * imbrandon was expecting her to say something with vegamite (sp?) on it, eww lol
[14:30] <jussi> vegemite is lovely!
[14:30] <imbrandon> >.<
[14:31] <czajkowski> ewwwwww
[14:31] <jussi> hehe
[14:31] <czajkowski> thats liek saying marmite is nice
[14:31] <czajkowski> evil smelly old socks are nicer!
[14:31]  * jussi has a big jar in the cupboard
[14:31] <imbrandon> lol
[14:31] <popey> \o/ marmite hilight
[14:32] <jussi> btw, anyone know marks location / tz currently?
[14:32] <imbrandon> not i
[14:32] <jcastro> mhall119, I think I fixed my sound, wanna test?
[14:32] <popey> jussi: probably BST
[14:32] <imbrandon> he gonna be in NC with jcastro tomarrow ?
[14:34] <jussi> morning jono!
[14:34] <jono> howdy jussi
[14:34] <jono> hows things?
[14:35] <jussi> jono: apart from the fact I havent slept? not bad
[14:35] <jono> lol
[14:36] <jussi> :D
[14:36] <czajkowski> jono: welcome back all refreshed after you holiday
[14:36] <mhall119> sleep is over-rated
[14:36] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; +1
[14:36] <czajkowski> jussi: sleep is over rated. I do my best work at 2am and wide awake!
[14:36] <jussi> mhall119: "you can sleep when the war is over son"
[14:36]  * czajkowski hugs mhall119 
[14:36] <jono> hah, I am still on vacation :-)
[14:36] <jono> another week yet :-)
[14:37] <MrChrisDruif> "You can sleep all you want once you're dead"
[14:38] <cjohnston> jono exists!
[14:38] <jono> cjohnston, only just :-)
[14:38] <czajkowski> jussi: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c8hvgXD4RhQ/T3B86nh8PTI/AAAAAAAACLM/autV8o55d9c/s522/IMG_20120326_150707.jpg lunctime baking
[14:38] <mhall119> jussi: I'll sleep when bug #1 is Fix Released
[14:38] <ubot2> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)
[14:38] <jussi> czajkowski: yeah, just saw it in the stream
[14:38] <jussi> hehe
[14:39] <jussi> right, time to cook dinner -wok on the way!
[14:39] <cjohnston> jono: I'm about to update summit with more than 5000 lines of code change
[14:39] <czajkowski> mhall119: see the CC agenda
[14:39] <czajkowski> cjohnston: is that your warning for things going to break take cover
[14:40] <jono> cjohnston, yowzer
[14:40] <cjohnston> no
[14:40] <cjohnston> lol
[14:40] <czajkowski> jono: you lived in england long enough young man to call it a holiday :)
[14:40] <cjohnston> lol
[14:40] <mhall119> czajkowski: linky?
[14:40] <czajkowski> jono: I can just about deal with your z's instead of s's!
[14:41] <jono> czajkowski, lol
[14:41] <jono> whatever, it's only words :-)
[14:41] <czajkowski> mhall119: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[14:41] <czajkowski> jono: :)
[14:41] <technoviking> Jono is an 'merica now, spent the last week at Wal-Mart:)
[14:41] <mhall119> czajkowski: um...ok
[14:41] <cjohnston> people of walmart is awesome
[14:41] <mhall119> czajkowski: what is he going to discuss about it?
[14:41] <jono> haha
[14:42] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bug1
[14:42] <czajkowski> I haz no idea
[14:42] <technoviking> jcastro: ping?
[14:42]  * czajkowski pops the kettle on and makes a cuppa tea  to go with her cake
[14:43] <jcastro> yo yo technoviking
[14:43] <jono> today I took a cooking class with the family, made handmade pasta, ravioli, tirimasu, and drank plenty of wine
[14:43] <jono> was a good time :-)
[14:44] <mhall119> czajkowski: oh, looks like he wants to s/windows/proprietary operating systems/
[14:44] <technoviking> so, the launchpad plugin on the test forums is having some issue, probably related to php-openid, but Stuart can't spare anyone to look into it
[14:44] <mhall119> which,  given than nearly all of "proprietary operating systems" on the desktop is Windows, I don't see the point
[14:46] <technoviking> I LOVE HAVING THE LAUNCHER IN ONLY ONE WINDOW!!!
[14:47] <cprofitt> technoviking: hello
[14:47] <technoviking> cprofitt: hi
[14:47] <cprofitt> jono: nice -- I love cooking... fresh pasta is great
[14:48] <jcastro> technoviking, ok can you put that as the blocker in the RT ticket?
[14:48] <technoviking> jcastro: can do
[14:48] <mhall119> technoviking: it's always been that way for me
[14:48] <mhall119> since I have only one screen
[14:49] <jcastro> technoviking, from now on, blockers go in the ticket, so that it's clear to CC/Forums Council/sabdfl exactly what is stopping the work.
[14:49] <technoviking> jcastro: roger that
[14:50] <technoviking> I'm beginning to hate RT 16733 :)
[14:51] <jono> cprofitt, :-)
[14:51]  * jono responds to yet another pointless discussion with Fab over software freedom :-)
[14:51] <jcastro> technoviking, beginning?! Hah!
[14:51]  * czajkowski hugs jono 
[14:51] <jcastro> jono, oh I hope it's on G+
[14:51] <czajkowski> jono: is it really worth it
[14:52] <jono> indeed it is
[14:52] <jono> jcastro, indeed it is
[14:52] <jono> czajkowski, not at all :-)
[14:52] <jcastro> this is why we can't have nice things
[14:53] <jono> haha
[14:54] <imbrandon> jono: Fab ?
[14:54] <technoviking> imbrandon: Linux Outlaws Fab
[14:54] <mhall119> he's just contrary to be contrary
[14:54] <imbrandon> oh i blocked that dude months ago
[14:55] <jono> imbrandon, Fabian Schnersal
[14:55] <imbrandon> yea
[14:55] <jono> he just enjoys spending his days rambling on G+ about how other people are not free enough
[14:55] <imbrandon> yea i blocked him on g+ months ago, forgot about it
[14:55] <mhall119> if you posted something about "Ubuntu saving stray puppies" he'd probably post about how evil puppies are
[14:55] <jono> I would rather spend my time doing useful things
[14:55] <czajkowski> I've him blocked also
[14:55] <imbrandon> like makin it free
[14:55] <jono> such as watching kittens riding roombas or something
[14:55] <imbrandon> :)
[14:55] <czajkowski> and working with him to organise a confernece
[14:55] <czajkowski> fun times :)
[14:55] <imbrandon> HAHAHAH
[14:56] <imbrandon> me hears the roomba sound mixed intot the next severed song
[14:56] <czajkowski> quiet as a mouse when dealing with him face to face
[14:56] <mhall119> czajkowski: pseudononymous bravery?
[14:56] <imbrandon> czajkowski: most peple like that are, its quite funny
[14:57] <imbrandon> i worked with a fella the exact same way, even internally at work, but he was in the office next to mine. and NEVER spoke aloud hardly
[14:57] <imbrandon> even in convo
[14:59] <imbrandon> but man if his kde gentoo ricer box couldne t open some attachement from outlook cuz it was a .docx ( even when ubuntu could  lol ) it was then end of days
[14:59] <MrChrisDruif> imbrandon; ^_^
[15:03] <jono> I just responded again
[15:06] <mhall119> jono: Florance is too nice (or so I'm told) to waste time on internet trolls
[15:06] <jono> mhall119, heh
[15:06] <jono> it is indeed
[15:08] <pleia2> jcastro_: Prakash == Prakash Advani ?
[15:11]  * mhall119 is seriously considering working from the hammock today
[15:12] <Pendulum> mhall119: sounds like a good idea to me
[15:13] <mhall119> but that means I have to re-assemble it
[15:14] <czajkowski> mhall119: I hope the jobs jump all over you and you have no peace!
[15:14] <czajkowski> mhall119: you know I love you dearly but that's just teasing us!
[15:14] <jono> imbrandon, good to have you back here, dude
[15:15] <jono> imbrandon, I will always fondly remember my very first UDS hanging out with you at the Oasis bar in the valle
[15:15] <jono> valley
[15:16] <mhall119> jobs jumping all over me?
[15:16]  * mhall119 assumes s/jobs/dogs/
[15:16] <mhall119> and only one of them can even reach the hammock's height
[15:17] <czajkowski> mhall119: dogs
[15:17] <imbrandon> HAHAH
[15:17] <imbrandon> jono: ONE TOOTH
[15:18] <czajkowski> dear gods my typing is dreadful today
[15:18] <jono> imbrandon, ONE TOOTH
[15:18] <jono> :-)
[15:18] <imbrandon> lol
[15:18] <imbrandon> good times, hey i'm gonna be in oakland btw
[15:18] <imbrandon> sooo that accomplihment stuff kicked me off doing some summit and juju stuff
[15:18] <imbrandon> and not i am back at it before ya knew it
[15:19]  * imbrandon spent a little time in the apple camp, shhh
[15:19] <imbrandon> now*
[15:21] <imbrandon> jono: I think me and cjohnston gonna have those community-web-themes rockin, he's already put a month or more in on em and i shoved about a week or so of hours in
[15:21] <imbrandon> they are shapin up
[15:21] <jono> imbrandon, nice!
[15:21] <jono> imbrandon, looking forward to seeing you in Oakland
[15:21] <jono> will be great to have you back in the community :-)
[15:21] <imbrandon> :)
[15:21] <imbrandon> its like riding a bike
[15:22] <imbrandon> just missing jr, but he is still around just not on kde
[15:22] <imbrandon> :(
[15:22] <cjohnston> jono: he is only allowed to work on web stuff tho
[15:22] <jono> hah
[15:22] <imbrandon> hahah
[15:22] <cjohnston> I claimed him first
[15:23] <imbrandon> i think i got some nginx and php packin to do commin up in 12.10, spamms and i are gonna try to get nginx in main
[15:24] <imbrandon> speakin of i need to post that second nginx blog post today before its tooo late
[15:24] <imbrandon> back in a bit
[15:24] <imbrandon> but yea def good times, and great to be back
[15:24] <mhall119> imbrandon: I bet jcastro would like that
[15:24] <mhall119> he and marco have gotten nginx powering their wordpress-omg charm
[15:24] <imbrandon> mhall119: heh probably, its about the same project we're all working on
[15:25] <imbrandon> yea i've been helping , i'm the brandon in jorges blog posts :)
[15:25] <mhall119> ah, ok
[15:25] <mhall119> there's so much going on with that, I've barely kept up
[15:25] <imbrandon> thus about to go into details about it on mine ;)
[15:25] <imbrandon> hehe i got a series of like 5 to post about the whole setup
[15:26] <imbrandon> this will be II
[15:26] <imbrandon> and 4 and 5 arent written yet
[15:26] <imbrandon> lol
[15:27] <imbrandon> but yea me jorge joey marco and spamms been rocking the nginx love and mysql lvoe and juju love all over it
[15:27] <imbrandon> someone will need to do a big over view when done, because it looks like a lot because it is
[15:28] <imbrandon> spamms and marc spent i know a week streight of 12 hours+ days
[15:28] <imbrandon> and that was just one week, we;re on week 3 now
[15:28] <imbrandon> if not almost 4
[15:30] <imbrandon> mhall119: http://brandonholtsclaw.com/blog/post/2012/zero-to-88-with-juju-and-nginx
[15:30] <imbrandon> :)
[15:30] <imbrandon> that as #1
[15:31] <imbrandon> jono:  ohhhh one last thing before both i let you get back to work and i do something constructive ............. give me gnome pannel back on the default install even if unity is default session :)
[15:32] <jono> imbrandon, heh
[15:32]  * imbrandon stops before flames begin
[15:32] <imbrandon> ;p;
[15:32] <imbrandon> :)
[15:32] <jono> :-)
[15:40] <mhall119> nice of Fab to throw me under the bus like that
[15:45] <jono> mhall119, can you link me to the d.u.c pages for the Unity docs?
[15:47] <mhall119> jono: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/unity/
[15:47] <jono> mhall119, can you put a link to this in the notes for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpVhuB9sVk&feature=youtu.be so people know where to find the docs
[15:51] <mhall119> jono: done
[15:52] <jono> thanks mhall119
[15:57] <jono> mhall119, I just promoted it on the social media channels
[15:59] <mhall119> jono: I did that last week ;)
[15:59] <jono> mhall119, cool
[16:00] <jono> a little more won't hurt :-)
[16:00] <jono> mhall119, I didnt see you promote it on G+
[16:00] <mhall119> jono: I have "Ubuntu" on Facebook, and "Ubuntu Unity" on G+
[16:00] <jono> mhall119, dpm wonderful job on the docs
[16:00] <jono> it looks really great
[16:00] <mhall119> I don't have "Ubuntu" on G+
[16:00] <jono> mhall119, ahhh, gotcha
[16:00] <mhall119> nor "Ubuntu Unity" (if that exists) on Facebook
[16:01] <jcastro_> test
[16:03] <dpm> jono, glad you like them, kudos also go to the dx folk who wrote the source documents
[16:03] <jono> :-)
[16:19] <jono> dholbach, can you join #ubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; did you notice the Unity Contributors Meeting is on the Fridge twice?
[16:39] <MrChrisDruif> Every week?
[16:39] <jcastro> no
[16:39] <jcastro> I don't think we've had that meeting in a while
[16:39] <jcastro> you can just remove it for now if you'd like
[16:42] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed "Agenda for 22 June" ^_^
[16:48] <dholbach> alright my friends - it's dinner time over here
[16:48] <dholbach> so see you tomorrow! :)
[17:39] <bkerensa> mhall119: I'm still working on your contributor list since our doc has not frozen yet... If I forget to give it to you do not hesitate to ping me
[19:22] <mhall119> bkerensa: no worries, how long should I wait before I can assume you've forgotten?
[19:24] <bkerensa> mhall119: next monday
[19:24] <bkerensa> :D
[19:44] <cjohnston> jcastro: summit
[19:44] <cjohnston> hehe
[20:01] <jcastro> jbicha: when are you going to be at the venue for posscon?
[20:07] <czajkowski> jcastro: if only you lived in EU, I could bring you to IReland for a weekend to give a talk on juju and charms for free
[20:14] <mhall119> czajkowski: if only you lifed in Florida, we'd go do Disney and I'd make you BBQ
[20:15] <czajkowski> mhall119: meanie!
[20:15] <mhall119> which I'm pretty sure one-ups more conference speaking
[20:15] <czajkowski> right need to find an oracle speaker and a canonical speaker in eu
[20:15] <czajkowski> you'd think this would be easy
[20:15] <czajkowski> it's not
[20:15] <cjohnston> you dont take me to disney or make me bbq ever since that first time
[20:16] <czajkowski> cjohnston: I don't harass him over summit :)
[20:16] <mhall119> cjohnston: you had the opportunity to come to the last one
[20:16] <mhall119> you chose not to
[20:17] <jbicha> jcastro: I live here :) why?
[20:17] <jcastro> oh ok, I'll be there tomorrow
[20:17] <jcastro> around 2 or so
[20:19] <jbicha> jcastro: cool, I'll probably be at the Convention Center or in the IT-oLogy tower then
[20:20] <jcastro> ok, so just walk around until I find you?
[20:21] <jbicha> I'll pm you my phone number
[20:41] <bkerensa> jcastro: Is contest ended? :D
[20:41] <jcastro> yeah
[20:42] <jcastro> your readme needs some work though
[20:42] <jcastro> you don't tell anyone how to use the charm. :)
[20:45] <bkerensa> jcastro: blame your reviewer :P
[20:45] <bkerensa> jcastro: I will fix now
[21:46] <cjohnston> jcastro: mhall119 http://summit.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <jcastro> my 2 factor auth is broken today for some reason
[21:48] <cjohnston> !fil
[21:48] <ubot2> Factoid 'fil' not found
[21:48] <cjohnston> !fail
[21:48] <ubot2> Shaka, when the walls fell.
[21:48] <jcastro> what is it?
[21:50] <cjohnston> jcastro: I just pushed ~8k lines of code live on summit
[21:50] <cjohnston> lines of code changes
[21:57] <balloons> whoa.. 8k eh? in one commit?
[21:58] <cjohnston> well
[21:58] <cjohnston> many commits
[21:58] <cjohnston> one release
[21:59] <cjohnston> balloons: test her out ;-)
[21:59] <cjohnston> you have special powers
[22:43] <mhall119> cjohnston: I really don't like the dotted border around the columns, is that intentional?
[22:43] <mhall119> cjohnston: also, I get scrollbars on the twitter messages now
[22:43] <cjohnston> not really.. we could remove imo
[22:43] <cjohnston> mhall119: i do too
[22:43] <cjohnston> but its only in chromium afaik
[22:43] <mhall119> everything feels so big now, why the larger font?
[22:44] <mhall119> ah, chromium, ok
[22:44] <cjohnston> guidelines
[22:45] <mhall119> cjohnston: hey, we should probably only display the "propose a meeting" when the summit is in the scheduling state
[22:45] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/ <-- it's not much good there
[22:46] <cjohnston> its supposed to be
[22:46] <cjohnston> is uds-p still in scheduling
[22:46] <mhall119> I hope not...
[22:46] <mhall119> but, yes
[22:47] <bkerensa> jcastro: YubiKey for the win :)
[22:47]  * mhall119 needs to reprogram his yubikey
[22:47] <bkerensa> mhall119: Do you use it with LastPass?
[22:48] <bkerensa> I have one Yubikey for LastPass and another for ssh authentication
[22:48] <mhall119> bkerensa: I don't use it at all currently
[22:49] <bkerensa> mhall119: ahh
[22:49] <cjohnston> mhall119: my code aint the problem
[22:49] <mhall119> bkerensa: but they've started using them for 2-factor auth in Ubuntu SSO
[22:49] <cjohnston> but yes, they all need to be turned to public, or whatever it is if they are done
[22:49] <bkerensa> mhall119: what? I can use one for Ubuntu SSO?
[22:49] <bkerensa> :D
[22:49] <mhall119> cjohnston: yeah, I turned uds-p to public and the link is gone now
[22:49] <cjohnston> mhall119: you should see what happens if you put it in sponsorship
[22:49] <cjohnston> it dances
[22:49] <mhall119> bkerensa: it's still in internal testing I think
[22:50] <bkerensa> but lastpass kind of makes 2-factor for just ubuntu sso moot since LastPass can do 2-factor for everything web-based
[22:50] <bkerensa> =o
[22:50] <mhall119> bkerensa: but it's coming soon, and baked into the django-openid-auth we use for summit and LTP
[22:50] <mhall119> bkerensa: how does lastpass make everything 2-factor?
[22:51] <bkerensa> mhall119: http://helpdesk.lastpass.com/security-options/yubikey-authentication/
[22:52] <mhall119> bkerensa: that only adds 2-factor to LastPass, not websites
[22:52] <mhall119> or am I reading it wrong
[22:53] <bkerensa> mhall119: oh yeah... I am just tired... It adds 2-factor to lastpass correct
[22:53] <mhall119> ok
[22:54] <bkerensa> mhall119: But if passwords are of secure length and form and stored securely on the site your visiting then surely there is no need for 2-factor at the service level if using LastPass?
[22:54] <bkerensa> Problem is using sites that do not store passwords and other sensitive data in a secure nature
[22:55] <mhall119> bkerensa: yeah, technically a sufficiently secure password and transport/storage is about the same as 2-factor auth
[22:56] <mhall119> but let's be honest, none of us follows *all* the password security best practices
[22:57] <bkerensa> mhall119: nope not all of us :)