[18:46] <snail> mōrena koutou
[20:04] <ajmitch> morning
[20:14] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:24] <mwhudson> is unity 3d broken in precise at the moment?
[20:40] <hads> Sort of
[20:40] <hads> If you mean the flashy thing
[20:42] <hads> I ran unity --reset which fixed my current session.
[20:45] <mwhudson> hm no
[20:45] <mwhudson> if i try to log in to the 'unity' session i get a black screen
[20:45] <hads> I can log in okay.
[21:13] <Atamira> i keep thinking its sunday
[21:13] <Atamira> morning all
[21:14] <ajmitch> feels more like monday to me, but that's mostly due to the public holiday yesterday
[21:18] <ibeardslee> eh?
[21:20] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: confused?
[21:21] <ibeardslee> Otago Anniversary day?
[21:21] <ajmitch> yep
[21:22] <thomi> mwhudson: works for me - what happens if you run unity manually from a VT?
[21:23] <mwhudson> thomi: log in to the unity session, then c-a-f1 and run 'unity' ?
[21:23] <thomi> mwhudson: that hsould do it. Add a '&' at the end if you wan tyour VT back again
[21:24] <thomi> ...please excuse my poor typing. not enough coffee.... or maybe too much.
[21:24] <mwhudson> biab then
[21:25] <thomi> BTW, what's with the website linked in the channel topic?
[21:25]  * thomi was expecting more purple...
[21:27] <ajmitch> someone needs to put in an RT ticket, I guess
[21:28] <mwhudson> thomi: so...
[21:29] <mwhudson> thomi: i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/901208/
[21:29] <thomi> mwhudson: I take it unity doesn't start?
[21:29] <mwhudson> thomi: i think there is _something_ running when i log in, the cursor changes to the window resizing shape where the empathy window usually appears
[21:30] <mwhudson> thomi: no, the process exits
[21:30] <mwhudson> (didn't check exit status, come to think of it)
[21:30] <thomi> hmmmm
[21:33] <thomi> mwhudson: do you have a ~/.compiz-1 directory? One thing to try is move that to somewhere else (or just delete it). Anotehr thing to try is to run unity --reset on a VT
[21:33] <mwhudson> thomi: i do have a .compiz-1 directory
[21:34] <thomi> ...a third thing to try is make sure you have the very latest version - I had issues with unity over the weekend, but it's working much better this morning
[21:34] <thomi> current version is 5.8.0-0ubuntu1
[21:34] <mwhudson> i did that last thing already :)
[21:34] <mwhudson> unity	5.8.0-0ubuntu2
[21:34] <mwhudson> thomi: i am even more in the future than you, it seems
[21:35] <thomi> O.0
[21:35] <mwhudson> biab
[21:36] <mwhudson> thomi: seems unity --reset did it
[21:40] <thomi> cool
[21:42] <ibeardslee> I had tried that when I had some unity problems .. it wasn't until I acutally managed to install compizconfig-settings-manager and use that to reset to defaults that it actually came right
[21:42] <ibeardslee> unity --reset just never seemed to complete
[21:43] <mwhudson> i really hope i can keep ccsm as far away from my machine as possible
[21:43] <ibeardslee> well ok, I wouldn't expect it to still be going 10 minutes later
[21:43] <ajmitch> it's a bit worrying that you should even need to --reset
[21:45] <thomi> yeah, I agree
[21:47] <ajmitch> aside from the handful of bugs I'm whinged to thomi about, unity has been pretty stable for me :)
[21:48] <ibeardslee> it's working great now
[21:49] <ibeardslee> it was some madness with the initial upgrade
[21:49]  * ajmitch does have some other bugs to file about it though
[21:49] <ibeardslee> and discovering that the video card on my home PC is no longer deemed to be good enough for Unity 3d
[21:49] <ajmitch> heh
[21:49] <ajmitch> what is it?
[21:50] <thomi> ibeardslee: if you're feeling brave you can try unity3d with software rendering. I'd have to look up how to enable it though.
[21:52] <ibeardslee> ajmitch: not sure, some nvidia geforce, 256MB I think
[21:52] <ajmitch> surely that should be good enough still
[21:59] <ibeardslee> it was good enough in Natty
[22:00] <ibeardslee> oneiric told me it wasn't good enough so was dropping down to 2d
[22:05] <thomi> ibeardslee: it sounds like maybe the drivers weren't loaded? I'd be surprised if it wasn't good enough anymore
[22:08] <ibeardslee> the nvidia drivers are installed
[22:19] <ojwb> morning
[22:24] <G> wow, is it me or is Thunderbird a really really bad e-mail client these days?
[22:25] <G> trying to compose an e-mail w/ quoting, and I delete a line the wrong way it reformats the entire plain text e-mail :S
[22:26] <ojwb> sounds FAB
[22:35] <mwhudson> haven't been near a graphical MUA in a couple of years now :)
[22:36] <mwhudson> (unless you count gmail's web interface i guess)
[22:40] <ibeardslee> I generally avoid Thunderbird .. mainly so I can go "I don't use it" when people get upset when lightning is not compatible with their current version of thunderbird
[22:44] <G> yeah, I normally just use mutt tbh, but I get so low volume on this account, that I use a GUI app, in the past I've used Evolution
[22:48] <codepal> morning
[22:55] <ibeardslee> at work I have evolution installed for work email and claws for connecting to my personal email