/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/26/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

snap-lrick_h: What the hell is with the countdown?00:51
brouschsnap-l: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/584/10:45
rick_hmorning10:54
snap-lWelcome back to Michigan11:06
snap-lAnd what, pray tell, is the dignificance of 3/29 at 9:41:06?11:07
rick_hparty11:07
rick_hsnap-l: it's https://store.yubico.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=73&osCsid=9c507929d46139feac0df2ed001d3dca11:07
rick_heither I bump it or the boy bumps it and it dumps the code to the screen active window and hits enter11:07
snap-lHah, OK. :)11:07
rick_hI'm moving it to another usb port to try to not hit it as often11:08
rick_hbut it just barely sticks out and just picks up being touched11:08
snap-lWhat platforms use it, or is it just for work auth?11:09
rick_hfor work is the reason I picked it up11:09
rick_hthere's some standard stuff that uses it I guess, but not for everything.11:10
snap-lAh, so they let you expense it, and you get to keep it?11:10
snap-lor was it "here's the options, you pick what you want to use?"11:11
rick_hit was more here's a list of tools to use. I've also got an android app and I figured a button on the laptop would be the fastest/easiest to use11:20
snap-lYeah, definitely.11:25
brouschug mondays12:46
brouschhard drive in the dell is dying. looks like i'll be slumming on the MBP12:46
jrwrengmorn12:51
jrwrenmy server has been limping along iwth a dying hard drive for over a year.12:52
jrwrenso maybe it isn't "dying" as much as it is partially disabled.12:52
snap-ljrwren: Any particular reason you haven't replaced it yet? :)12:53
jrwrenthat would require a few free hours of my time12:53
jrwreni've no wish to spend my time that way12:54
jrwreni'd rather just power cycle that server every month when it freezes12:54
snap-lof course.12:54
jrwrenup 19 days now. whoo hoo!12:54
snap-land when the drive completely dies? :)12:54
jrwrenrestore from backup and spend the 2hrs then.12:54
brouschi have both running right now while i move all my crap over12:54
snap-lI take it this server isn't doing much12:54
jrwrenits my primary home server.12:54
jrwrenit does everything for me.12:55
brouschbeing totally down would be very bad12:55
snap-ljrwren: I see12:55
snap-ljrwren: I hope you test your backups.12:55
jrwrenbut it only hurts me and my wife. we can't watch "our shows"12:55
jrwrenhehe.12:55
jrwreni dno't really test my backups.12:55
jrwrenbut they are just tars.12:55
brouschunfortunately i had the MBP wiped and ready for sale12:55
jrwrenone of a very few backup approaches that have never failed for me12:55
snap-ljrwren: I'm glad you're a developer and not a sysadmin. :)12:55
jrwrensnap-l: that is snide and foolish12:56
snap-lYour lack of paranoia frightens me.12:56
jrwrenha!12:56
jrwrenyour lack of sane risk analysis depresses me.12:56
snap-ltouche12:56
jrwren*personal attack back at ya* kachow! :)12:56
jrwrenremember, i was formerly a sysadmin.12:56
snap-ljrwren: I'm very paranoid around HDDs, though12:57
snap-lAre they in a RAID at least?12:57
jrwrenbut in all seriousness i could lose this thing and I wouldn't care very much.12:58
snap-l(like I'm one to talk. My desktop drives aren't raided)12:58
jrwreni can rerip CDs12:58
jrwreni can redownload ISOs12:58
snap-ljrwren: nod12:58
jrwreni can reinstall linux.12:58
jrwrenwhat else does it do?12:58
jrwrencode goes to github or lp12:58
jrwrennot sure what else I have there... nothing I think.12:58
jrwrenits really not that important.12:58
* jrwren says as he crosses fingers and hopes it doesn't die12:58
snap-ljrwren: After deleting my one drive, and having to re-rip, I've gotten a lot more anal about backup12:58
jrwrenright as we were typing this, it failed a write ;(12:59
snap-lThat said, it's sitting on my desk a few feet from the machine12:59
snap-ljrwren: Ouch12:59
jrwrendoes anyone know screen/byobu very well?  I turned off hardstatus and now that line is going ot my xterm title?13:02
jrwrenit is weird, but also kinda cool.13:02
snap-ljrwren: Never turned it off, but that is kind of cool  / annoying. :)13:02
jrwrenwhat is the most useful vim command you ever learned?13:29
brouschG13:29
brouschwait, no Esc13:29
jrwrenbeyond the 2 page cheat sheet of unix in a nutshell13:30
_stink_heh13:31
rick_hau FileType $something set...13:31
jrwrentop 3 or top 5?13:32
snap-ljrwren: u13:33
snap-lusually in rapid succession. :)13:33
jrwrenand then a ctrl-r ?13:33
snap-lsometimes.13:34
snap-lBut undo has saved my bacon more than once.13:34
snap-land removed my bacon more than once.13:34
jrwrenme too, but i can usually git reset or checkout or something to save my bacon13:34
jrwreni ask because I just made great use of mksession13:35
snap-ljrwren: Assuming I'm using git and have recently checked in, yes. ;)13:35
jrwrenbut i also learned Sex/Vex recently13:35
snap-ljrwren: How could you recently learn Sex? :)13:35
jrwrenand I thought maybe folks would have sweet favorites like those.13:35
jrwrensnap-l: i never really knew what that thing down tehre was used for.13:35
jrwrensnap-l: the status bar i mean13:36
snap-ljrwren: I'm totally posting that on bash.org. :)13:36
jrwrencan if you want. i was just quoting MSI cuz i thought it would be funny.13:37
snap-l;)13:38
snap-lhttp://bash.org/?95058313:39
snap-lI lolled13:39
_Marcus"Quote #950583 is pending moderation."?13:39
snap-lyes, it'll take some time13:39
rick_hjrwren: I used the session stuff for a bit, but found it too much work to keep up and going13:42
rick_hjrwren: but really, I find that for the most part vim is movement commands, updating config stuff based on ft in a custom way, and the plugins that make my life easier13:43
rick_hafter splits/buffers, etc, I don't get into a ton else there13:43
brouschmy laptop is running fast after its HD issue earlier. i'm scared to hit the swap13:49
=== rick_h_ is now known as rick_h
rick_hgrrr, I've done that a few times lately. Somehow freezing my irssi window13:52
snap-lbrousch: You can tell Linux how swappy you want it to be.13:53
brouschyeah, but with my measly 4GB i am hitting it frequently. i'd rather it not just kill things13:54
snap-lIt won't directly kill things13:56
snap-lyou can just set the priority lower13:56
jrwrenrick_h: you still use nerdtree?13:56
rick_hyea, but working on using ctrlp and not using it as much13:56
jrwreni never adopted nerdtree, so Explore is very nice for me.13:57
snap-lctrlp?13:57
rick_hlike command-T but pure vimscript vs ruby13:58
snap-lOh that helps.13:58
snap-lhttp://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=373613:59
snap-lLooks like a pain in the ass14:00
rick_hnow so?14:01
snap-lJust looked a little complicated from the description14:02
snap-lCHekcing it out now14:02
rick_hhttp://kien.github.com/ctrlp.vim/ seems pretty good intro/walk through14:04
rick_hbasically setup a couple of settings, some ignores, and stop auto chwd and works ok so far for me14:04
snap-lHow do you open it in a new window?14:04
rick_hdon't know, I just split, and then run it14:05
rick_hor just run it and go back/forth between buffers14:05
snap-lmeh. I'll give it a shot14:05
rick_hI've mapped ;; to swap buffers so finding myself doing that a lot more recentl.y14:05
snap-lI think I've gotten too used to Nerdtree. :)14:06
snap-lthough I can see why this would be appealing14:07
rick_hyea, you have to know what you're looking for14:07
rick_hso for projects you know well it's awesome14:07
rick_hbut when I'm searching/finding things or exploring I launch NT14:07
rick_hso bookie is almost 100% ctrlp now, but launchpad is still some 60% nerdtree walking14:07
jrwrenhardstatus ignore v. alwyasignore. got that byobu hardstatus out of my window title14:40
snap-lI wish my sinuses would stop building a dam14:51
snap-lTomorrow sees the release of the latest OMC Instrumetalcast14:57
snap-lAnd I found enough stuff that the next episode may not be far behind14:58
snap-lhttp://memoirsofficial.bandcamp.com/ <- Worthy of your attention, instrumental djents.15:15
ColonelPanic001\o/15:21
ColonelPanic001bookmarking.15:21
ColonelPanic001after Cloudkicker, never ignoring a bandcamp link from you again15:22
snap-lColonelPanic001: That could be dangerous. :)15:22
snap-lBut yeah, Bandcamp appears to be where I'm getting a lot of the "OMG" music15:23
ColonelPanic001probably15:23
snap-lJamendo is stagnating15:24
ColonelPanic001never really used it much - just listned to bands I'm linked to, etc15:24
ColonelPanic001Jamendo as a great idea, it's just a lot of stuff to sift through, imho15:24
snap-lWell, they've made it 100x worse to release albums15:24
snap-lso what used to be a decent flow is now a trickle15:24
snap-lthat and they moved servers to be with their new parent company15:25
snap-lSo that always makes things fun15:25
ColonelPanic001heh15:26
=== jcastro_ is now known as jcastro
snap-lNice, managed to have a process wedged on my machine since the 24th16:14
snap-lno wonder my machine was acting a little wonky16:14
* snap-l wonders if he should be using some form of CPU monitor in the systray after all. ;)16:15
rick_hheh, if your system is acking wonky you're supposed to run top :P16:27
snap-lYeah yeah, I know.16:27
brouschi have cpu, ram, swap, and network monitors always running16:58
snap-lbrousch: You're running KDE. I'm surprised your titlebar isn't a stock ticker.16:59
brouschi have a whole panel for clocks and stock tickers16:59
jjessebrousch,  has a panel of panels17:07
brouschi created a full screen panel and filled it with panels17:07
snap-lHe's got a panel of a panel where he's peeking at his ports17:15
snap-land a cadre of clocks his appointments to support17:16
snap-lwith a wall of wobbly windows his functions find a fort17:16
snap-land a network sniffing tracer tracing traffic of all sorts17:17
snap-lgreg-g: You have unleashed the fury.17:18
snap-lhttp://blog.grossmeier.net/2012/03/25/why-i-dont-buy-ebooks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-1190217:18
brouschsnap-l++17:19
brouschthat was for the KDE poem17:21
greg-gsnap-l: :) yay fury, or is that furry ;)17:21
snap-lgreg-g: You'll have to come to Penguicon for the furry.17:22
* waldo323_ runs away17:23
widoxrick_h: https://github.com/kennethreitz/autoenv similar to workit17:36
rick_hwidox: yea, but is messes with cd and not a fan of that17:38
widoxrick_h: right. I just haven't seen too many general tools like that17:48
rick_hwidox: yea, there's some issues that overloading cd create, some rails tool shave a history of doing that17:50
greg-gapparently Rowan just rolled over from his tummy to his back17:55
rick_hgreg-g: woot!17:56
rick_hhere comes trouble17:56
greg-gno kidding17:57
rick_hI remember that first time I put him down, went to get a drink and then found him off his blaket across the room going "WTF!?"17:59
greg-glol17:59
rick_hit's like a switch, they just suddenly start going17:59
brouschtime to babyproof everything18:02
greg-gno. kidding.18:02
greg-gThat'll be a fun house meeting with the roommates. "No, you can't leave your used needles on the floor anymore"18:03
rick_hbah, need more books. Up to 4 audible credits to use up this month18:03
rick_hlol18:03
greg-g:)18:03
brouschgreg-g: wow. who are you rooming with?18:04
brouschi thought everyone in SF smoked pot, not shot up18:04
greg-goh right...18:04
greg-g"No, you can not leave your bong on the floor, he *will* tip it over"18:05
jrwrenlol18:09
* jrwren calls SFCPS18:10
snap-lrick_h: http://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B002V0QDLM18:49
snap-lNot sure how many credits it is, but it should keep you busy for a while.18:49
greg-g"abridged" lack of commitment18:56
greg-ghttp://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B002V0Q84E&qid=1332788166&sr=1-118:56
greg-g^^ there ya go18:56
greg-g41 hours18:56
snap-lAh, very good then18:56
snap-lI thought that was running a bit short.18:56
greg-g:)18:56
rick_hheh, cool18:57
brouschpshaw. amateurs http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B0077DEH7A&qid=1332788222&sr=1-118:57
brousch47 hours18:57
snap-lbrousch: I read that book18:57
snap-lI think by the middle I wanted every one dead.18:57
snap-lStephen King is one of those authors where I seek out the abridged versions18:58
brouschi read tons of stephen king in HS19:00
snap-ltried reading Insomina once. After a while I wondered why I was doing this to myself.19:00
snap-lIt felt like a novella pounded into a novel.19:00
greg-gI liked some of SK's stuff, like Bag of Bones and the first few of the Gunslinger series (only read 2 or 3)19:06
ColonelPanic001I've only ever read "The Long Walk"19:06
greg-gin my group of geek friends, Stephen King was our replacement for Tolkien or Gaiman19:07
greg-gyou know, I'm wondering, should I get the humble bundle again for Rowan when he's of age?19:25
greg-gI mean, Snuggle Truck seems like a good early game19:26
brouschnah, just get him on pbs kids19:27
greg-g"In Snuggle Truck, you must overcome treacherous terrain get your cargo of precious stuffed animals safely to the zoo, in an adorable take on the "trials" game genre. "19:27
greg-gany other opinions. brousch went with "just hand him over to the commies"19:27
snap-lgreg-g: How old is Rowan?19:36
snap-lI think he might be a little too young for that sort of thing19:36
brouschindeed19:36
snap-lthough I'm a huge fan of the HUmble Bundle for other things.19:36
greg-gsnap-l: yeah, definitely no game time yet, he just figured out how to roll over from his tummy to his back (he's 3.5 mos)19:36
greg-gI was thinking in preparation for when he's older, like, I don't know when19:37
brouschas soon as he can sit up19:38
greg-gheh19:38
snap-lgreg-g: Well, think about it this way19:43
snap-lhow likely are you to be running Android 2 devices when he's 2?19:43
greg-ggiven that my phone isn't yet android 2.0..... no effing clue :)19:45
brouscheh? wtf phone do you have?19:46
greg-goh, wait, sorry19:46
greg-gI am confused on android versions19:46
brousch-100 geek points19:46
greg-gmy phone (LG Optimus V) is at 2.2.119:46
brouschthat's pretty old19:47
greg-gyeah, figured19:47
greg-gVirgin Mobile doesn't give a hoot19:47
greg-gbut its cheap, and I mostly still use it just as a phone plus twitter/identica/email19:47
brouschah, i thought about doing that19:48
brouschtheir crappy coverage area was the biggest turn-off19:48
greg-gvirgin == sprint19:49
greg-gand the only one with a major difference/improvement is verizon, which is stupidly expensive (for my usage)19:49
brouschatt and sprint are both really spotty north of GR, where all of my parents/grandparents live19:50
* greg-g nods19:50
snap-lbrousch: Where they live, it's probably ma and pa shanty wireless and feed store.19:50
snap-lhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/26/news-corp-ondigital-paytv-panorama <- wow19:58
greg-gthis is pretty neat: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_the_Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation21:13
greg-ghttp://creativecommons.org.au/weblog/entry/346521:13
snap-lgreg-g: That is pretty cool.23:32

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