[00:51] <snap-l> rick_h: What the hell is with the countdown?
[10:45] <brousch> snap-l: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/584/
[10:54] <rick_h> morning
[11:06] <snap-l> Welcome back to Michigan
[11:07] <snap-l> And what, pray tell, is the dignificance of 3/29 at 9:41:06?
[11:07] <rick_h> party
[11:07] <rick_h> snap-l: it's https://store.yubico.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=73&osCsid=9c507929d46139feac0df2ed001d3dca
[11:07] <rick_h> either I bump it or the boy bumps it and it dumps the code to the screen active window and hits enter
[11:07] <snap-l> Hah, OK. :)
[11:08] <rick_h> I'm moving it to another usb port to try to not hit it as often
[11:08] <rick_h> but it just barely sticks out and just picks up being touched
[11:09] <snap-l> What platforms use it, or is it just for work auth?
[11:09] <rick_h> for work is the reason I picked it up
[11:10] <rick_h> there's some standard stuff that uses it I guess, but not for everything.
[11:10] <snap-l> Ah, so they let you expense it, and you get to keep it?
[11:11] <snap-l> or was it "here's the options, you pick what you want to use?"
[11:20] <rick_h> it was more here's a list of tools to use. I've also got an android app and I figured a button on the laptop would be the fastest/easiest to use
[11:25] <snap-l> Yeah, definitely.
[12:46] <brousch> ug mondays
[12:46] <brousch> hard drive in the dell is dying. looks like i'll be slumming on the MBP
[12:51] <jrwren> gmorn
[12:52] <jrwren> my server has been limping along iwth a dying hard drive for over a year.
[12:52] <jrwren> so maybe it isn't "dying" as much as it is partially disabled.
[12:53] <snap-l> jrwren: Any particular reason you haven't replaced it yet? :)
[12:53] <jrwren> that would require a few free hours of my time
[12:54] <jrwren> i've no wish to spend my time that way
[12:54] <jrwren> i'd rather just power cycle that server every month when it freezes
[12:54] <snap-l> of course.
[12:54] <jrwren> up 19 days now. whoo hoo!
[12:54] <snap-l> and when the drive completely dies? :)
[12:54] <jrwren> restore from backup and spend the 2hrs then.
[12:54] <brousch> i have both running right now while i move all my crap over
[12:54] <snap-l> I take it this server isn't doing much
[12:54] <jrwren> its my primary home server.
[12:55] <jrwren> it does everything for me.
[12:55] <brousch> being totally down would be very bad
[12:55] <snap-l> jrwren: I see
[12:55] <snap-l> jrwren: I hope you test your backups.
[12:55] <jrwren> but it only hurts me and my wife. we can't watch "our shows"
[12:55] <jrwren> hehe.
[12:55] <jrwren> i dno't really test my backups.
[12:55] <jrwren> but they are just tars.
[12:55] <brousch> unfortunately i had the MBP wiped and ready for sale
[12:55] <jrwren> one of a very few backup approaches that have never failed for me
[12:55] <snap-l> jrwren: I'm glad you're a developer and not a sysadmin. :)
[12:56] <jrwren> snap-l: that is snide and foolish
[12:56] <snap-l> Your lack of paranoia frightens me.
[12:56] <jrwren> ha!
[12:56] <jrwren> your lack of sane risk analysis depresses me.
[12:56] <snap-l> touche
[12:56] <jrwren> *personal attack back at ya* kachow! :)
[12:56] <jrwren> remember, i was formerly a sysadmin.
[12:57] <snap-l> jrwren: I'm very paranoid around HDDs, though
[12:57] <snap-l> Are they in a RAID at least?
[12:58] <jrwren> but in all seriousness i could lose this thing and I wouldn't care very much.
[12:58] <snap-l> (like I'm one to talk. My desktop drives aren't raided)
[12:58] <jrwren> i can rerip CDs
[12:58] <jrwren> i can redownload ISOs
[12:58] <snap-l> jrwren: nod
[12:58] <jrwren> i can reinstall linux.
[12:58] <jrwren> what else does it do?
[12:58] <jrwren> code goes to github or lp
[12:58] <jrwren> not sure what else I have there... nothing I think.
[12:58] <jrwren> its really not that important.
[12:58]  * jrwren says as he crosses fingers and hopes it doesn't die
[12:58] <snap-l> jrwren: After deleting my one drive, and having to re-rip, I've gotten a lot more anal about backup
[12:59] <jrwren> right as we were typing this, it failed a write ;(
[12:59] <snap-l> That said, it's sitting on my desk a few feet from the machine
[12:59] <snap-l> jrwren: Ouch
[13:02] <jrwren> does anyone know screen/byobu very well?  I turned off hardstatus and now that line is going ot my xterm title?
[13:02] <jrwren> it is weird, but also kinda cool.
[13:02] <snap-l> jrwren: Never turned it off, but that is kind of cool  / annoying. :)
[13:29] <jrwren> what is the most useful vim command you ever learned?
[13:29] <brousch> G
[13:29] <brousch> wait, no Esc
[13:30] <jrwren> beyond the 2 page cheat sheet of unix in a nutshell
[13:31] <_stink_> heh
[13:31] <rick_h> au FileType $something set...
[13:32] <jrwren> top 3 or top 5?
[13:33] <snap-l> jrwren: u
[13:33] <snap-l> usually in rapid succession. :)
[13:33] <jrwren> and then a ctrl-r ?
[13:34] <snap-l> sometimes.
[13:34] <snap-l> But undo has saved my bacon more than once.
[13:34] <snap-l> and removed my bacon more than once.
[13:34] <jrwren> me too, but i can usually git reset or checkout or something to save my bacon
[13:35] <jrwren> i ask because I just made great use of mksession
[13:35] <snap-l> jrwren: Assuming I'm using git and have recently checked in, yes. ;)
[13:35] <jrwren> but i also learned Sex/Vex recently
[13:35] <snap-l> jrwren: How could you recently learn Sex? :)
[13:35] <jrwren> and I thought maybe folks would have sweet favorites like those.
[13:35] <jrwren> snap-l: i never really knew what that thing down tehre was used for.
[13:36] <jrwren> snap-l: the status bar i mean
[13:36] <snap-l> jrwren: I'm totally posting that on bash.org. :)
[13:37] <jrwren> can if you want. i was just quoting MSI cuz i thought it would be funny.
[13:38] <snap-l> ;)
[13:39] <snap-l> http://bash.org/?950583
[13:39] <snap-l> I lolled
[13:39] <_Marcus> "Quote #950583 is pending moderation."?
[13:39] <snap-l> yes, it'll take some time
[13:42] <rick_h> jrwren: I used the session stuff for a bit, but found it too much work to keep up and going
[13:43] <rick_h> jrwren: but really, I find that for the most part vim is movement commands, updating config stuff based on ft in a custom way, and the plugins that make my life easier
[13:43] <rick_h> after splits/buffers, etc, I don't get into a ton else there
[13:49] <brousch> my laptop is running fast after its HD issue earlier. i'm scared to hit the swap
[13:52] <rick_h> grrr, I've done that a few times lately. Somehow freezing my irssi window
[13:53] <snap-l> brousch: You can tell Linux how swappy you want it to be.
[13:54] <brousch> yeah, but with my measly 4GB i am hitting it frequently. i'd rather it not just kill things
[13:56] <snap-l> It won't directly kill things
[13:56] <snap-l> you can just set the priority lower
[13:56] <jrwren> rick_h: you still use nerdtree?
[13:56] <rick_h> yea, but working on using ctrlp and not using it as much
[13:57] <jrwren> i never adopted nerdtree, so Explore is very nice for me.
[13:57] <snap-l> ctrlp?
[13:58] <rick_h> like command-T but pure vimscript vs ruby
[13:58] <snap-l> Oh that helps.
[13:59] <snap-l> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3736
[14:00] <snap-l> Looks like a pain in the ass
[14:01] <rick_h> now so?
[14:02] <snap-l> Just looked a little complicated from the description
[14:02] <snap-l> CHekcing it out now
[14:04] <rick_h> http://kien.github.com/ctrlp.vim/ seems pretty good intro/walk through
[14:04] <rick_h> basically setup a couple of settings, some ignores, and stop auto chwd and works ok so far for me
[14:04] <snap-l> How do you open it in a new window?
[14:05] <rick_h> don't know, I just split, and then run it
[14:05] <rick_h> or just run it and go back/forth between buffers
[14:05] <snap-l> meh. I'll give it a shot
[14:05] <rick_h> I've mapped ;; to swap buffers so finding myself doing that a lot more recentl.y
[14:06] <snap-l> I think I've gotten too used to Nerdtree. :)
[14:07] <snap-l> though I can see why this would be appealing
[14:07] <rick_h> yea, you have to know what you're looking for
[14:07] <rick_h> so for projects you know well it's awesome
[14:07] <rick_h> but when I'm searching/finding things or exploring I launch NT
[14:07] <rick_h> so bookie is almost 100% ctrlp now, but launchpad is still some 60% nerdtree walking
[14:40] <jrwren> hardstatus ignore v. alwyasignore. got that byobu hardstatus out of my window title
[14:51] <snap-l> I wish my sinuses would stop building a dam
[14:57] <snap-l> Tomorrow sees the release of the latest OMC Instrumetalcast
[14:58] <snap-l> And I found enough stuff that the next episode may not be far behind
[15:15] <snap-l> http://memoirsofficial.bandcamp.com/ <- Worthy of your attention, instrumental djents.
[15:21] <ColonelPanic001> \o/
[15:21] <ColonelPanic001> bookmarking.
[15:22] <ColonelPanic001> after Cloudkicker, never ignoring a bandcamp link from you again
[15:22] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: That could be dangerous. :)
[15:23] <snap-l> But yeah, Bandcamp appears to be where I'm getting a lot of the "OMG" music
[15:23] <ColonelPanic001> probably
[15:24] <snap-l> Jamendo is stagnating
[15:24] <ColonelPanic001> never really used it much - just listned to bands I'm linked to, etc
[15:24] <ColonelPanic001> Jamendo as a great idea, it's just a lot of stuff to sift through, imho
[15:24] <snap-l> Well, they've made it 100x worse to release albums
[15:24] <snap-l> so what used to be a decent flow is now a trickle
[15:25] <snap-l> that and they moved servers to be with their new parent company
[15:25] <snap-l> So that always makes things fun
[15:26] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[16:14] <snap-l> Nice, managed to have a process wedged on my machine since the 24th
[16:14] <snap-l> no wonder my machine was acting a little wonky
[16:15]  * snap-l wonders if he should be using some form of CPU monitor in the systray after all. ;)
[16:27] <rick_h> heh, if your system is acking wonky you're supposed to run top :P
[16:27] <snap-l> Yeah yeah, I know.
[16:58] <brousch> i have cpu, ram, swap, and network monitors always running
[16:59] <snap-l> brousch: You're running KDE. I'm surprised your titlebar isn't a stock ticker.
[16:59] <brousch> i have a whole panel for clocks and stock tickers
[17:07] <jjesse> brousch,  has a panel of panels
[17:07] <brousch> i created a full screen panel and filled it with panels
[17:15] <snap-l> He's got a panel of a panel where he's peeking at his ports
[17:16] <snap-l> and a cadre of clocks his appointments to support
[17:16] <snap-l> with a wall of wobbly windows his functions find a fort
[17:17] <snap-l> and a network sniffing tracer tracing traffic of all sorts
[17:18] <snap-l> greg-g: You have unleashed the fury.
[17:18] <snap-l> http://blog.grossmeier.net/2012/03/25/why-i-dont-buy-ebooks-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-11902
[17:19] <brousch> snap-l++
[17:21] <brousch> that was for the KDE poem
[17:21] <greg-g> snap-l: :) yay fury, or is that furry ;)
[17:22] <snap-l> greg-g: You'll have to come to Penguicon for the furry.
[17:23]  * waldo323_ runs away
[17:36] <widox> rick_h: https://github.com/kennethreitz/autoenv similar to workit
[17:38] <rick_h> widox: yea, but is messes with cd and not a fan of that
[17:48] <widox> rick_h: right. I just haven't seen too many general tools like that
[17:50] <rick_h> widox: yea, there's some issues that overloading cd create, some rails tool shave a history of doing that
[17:55] <greg-g> apparently Rowan just rolled over from his tummy to his back
[17:56] <rick_h> greg-g: woot!
[17:56] <rick_h> here comes trouble
[17:57] <greg-g> no kidding
[17:59] <rick_h> I remember that first time I put him down, went to get a drink and then found him off his blaket across the room going "WTF!?"
[17:59] <greg-g> lol
[17:59] <rick_h> it's like a switch, they just suddenly start going
[18:02] <brousch> time to babyproof everything
[18:02] <greg-g> no. kidding.
[18:03] <greg-g> That'll be a fun house meeting with the roommates. "No, you can't leave your used needles on the floor anymore"
[18:03] <rick_h> bah, need more books. Up to 4 audible credits to use up this month
[18:03] <rick_h> lol
[18:03] <greg-g> :)
[18:04] <brousch> greg-g: wow. who are you rooming with?
[18:04] <brousch> i thought everyone in SF smoked pot, not shot up
[18:04] <greg-g> oh right...
[18:05] <greg-g> "No, you can not leave your bong on the floor, he *will* tip it over"
[18:09] <jrwren> lol
[18:10]  * jrwren calls SFCPS
[18:49] <snap-l> rick_h: http://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B002V0QDLM
[18:49] <snap-l> Not sure how many credits it is, but it should keep you busy for a while.
[18:56] <greg-g> "abridged" lack of commitment
[18:56] <greg-g> http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B002V0Q84E&qid=1332788166&sr=1-1
[18:56] <greg-g> ^^ there ya go
[18:56] <greg-g> 41 hours
[18:56] <snap-l> Ah, very good then
[18:56] <snap-l> I thought that was running a bit short.
[18:56] <greg-g> :)
[18:57] <rick_h> heh, cool
[18:57] <brousch> pshaw. amateurs http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B0077DEH7A&qid=1332788222&sr=1-1
[18:57] <brousch> 47 hours
[18:57] <snap-l> brousch: I read that book
[18:57] <snap-l> I think by the middle I wanted every one dead.
[18:58] <snap-l> Stephen King is one of those authors where I seek out the abridged versions
[19:00] <brousch> i read tons of stephen king in HS
[19:00] <snap-l> tried reading Insomina once. After a while I wondered why I was doing this to myself.
[19:00] <snap-l> It felt like a novella pounded into a novel.
[19:06] <greg-g> I liked some of SK's stuff, like Bag of Bones and the first few of the Gunslinger series (only read 2 or 3)
[19:06] <ColonelPanic001> I've only ever read "The Long Walk"
[19:07] <greg-g> in my group of geek friends, Stephen King was our replacement for Tolkien or Gaiman
[19:25] <greg-g> you know, I'm wondering, should I get the humble bundle again for Rowan when he's of age?
[19:26] <greg-g> I mean, Snuggle Truck seems like a good early game
[19:27] <brousch> nah, just get him on pbs kids
[19:27] <greg-g> "In Snuggle Truck, you must overcome treacherous terrain get your cargo of precious stuffed animals safely to the zoo, in an adorable take on the "trials" game genre. "
[19:27] <greg-g> any other opinions. brousch went with "just hand him over to the commies"
[19:36] <snap-l> greg-g: How old is Rowan?
[19:36] <snap-l> I think he might be a little too young for that sort of thing
[19:36] <brousch> indeed
[19:36] <snap-l> though I'm a huge fan of the HUmble Bundle for other things.
[19:36] <greg-g> snap-l: yeah, definitely no game time yet, he just figured out how to roll over from his tummy to his back (he's 3.5 mos)
[19:37] <greg-g> I was thinking in preparation for when he's older, like, I don't know when
[19:38] <brousch> as soon as he can sit up
[19:38] <greg-g> heh
[19:43] <snap-l> greg-g: Well, think about it this way
[19:43] <snap-l> how likely are you to be running Android 2 devices when he's 2?
[19:45] <greg-g> given that my phone isn't yet android 2.0..... no effing clue :)
[19:46] <brousch> eh? wtf phone do you have?
[19:46] <greg-g> oh, wait, sorry
[19:46] <greg-g> I am confused on android versions
[19:46] <brousch> -100 geek points
[19:46] <greg-g> my phone (LG Optimus V) is at 2.2.1
[19:47] <brousch> that's pretty old
[19:47] <greg-g> yeah, figured
[19:47] <greg-g> Virgin Mobile doesn't give a hoot
[19:47] <greg-g> but its cheap, and I mostly still use it just as a phone plus twitter/identica/email
[19:48] <brousch> ah, i thought about doing that
[19:48] <brousch> their crappy coverage area was the biggest turn-off
[19:49] <greg-g> virgin == sprint
[19:49] <greg-g> and the only one with a major difference/improvement is verizon, which is stupidly expensive (for my usage)
[19:50] <brousch> att and sprint are both really spotty north of GR, where all of my parents/grandparents live
[19:50]  * greg-g nods
[19:50] <snap-l> brousch: Where they live, it's probably ma and pa shanty wireless and feed store.
[19:58] <snap-l> http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/26/news-corp-ondigital-paytv-panorama <- wow
[21:13] <greg-g> this is pretty neat: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_the_Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation
[21:13] <greg-g> http://creativecommons.org.au/weblog/entry/3465
[23:32] <snap-l> greg-g: That is pretty cool.