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magespawnMorning all.06:27
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Kilosgood morning superfly magespawn and other lurkers07:21
KilosMaaz, coffee on07:21
* Maaz flips the salt-timer07:21
superflymorning Kilos!07:23
* superfly needs some more c0ffee07:23
magespawnHi kilos07:23
Kiloshehe07:23
Kerberome too07:23
Kiloslo Kerbero 07:23
Kerberohi kilos07:23
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!07:25
KilosMaaz, ty07:25
MaazYou are welcome Kilos07:25
Kiloshi sdehaan 07:34
Kilosthat game dont work here. Simon says nothing07:35
Kilosmorning inetpro 07:48
inetprogoeie more Kilos07:48
Kilospidgin jy nog inetpro ?07:49
inetproKilos: sometimes07:55
Kilosare there advantages in using a jabber ID rather than gmail addy in pidgin?08:03
bakumanhallo oom kilos08:04
Kilosdag bakuman 08:04
Kilosmorning drussell 08:05
drussellKilos: morning!08:06
Kiloshi GrimmBuss 08:08
GrimmBussHey, how are you?08:09
Kilosgood ty and you?08:09
GrimmBussCant complain. No one listens anyways ;)08:09
Kiloshehe are you looking for linux help?08:10
KilosGrimmBuss, welcome to ubuntu-za08:11
GrimmBussSuprisingly I'm not. Thanks for offering though. One of my friends I study with suggests him and I use this as a way to discuss a project we have to work on.08:11
Kilosah08:12
GrimmBussThanks though.08:13
kbmonkeymorning o/08:13
bakuman\o08:14
KilosGrimmBuss, np08:14
Kiloshi there kbmonkey how are you08:14
kbmonkeyhi oom Kilos, I am good ty08:14
kbmonkeyhow is you? I see Maaz is back08:14
Kiloshehehe you also going the oom route now08:14
bakumanhehe08:15
Kilosyeah we are so lucky we can now have double coffees08:15
Kilosim good ty kbmonkey , been sorting xubuntu a bit and other things so been slacking on the studies08:16
kbmonkeyme too. i'm pressured into doing other studies so i can get work in the 'real world'08:20
kbmonkeyphp mysql certification..08:20
kbmonkeyand im also doing a cryptography course online08:20
Kilosgood08:21
kbmonkeywhile trying to learn Python08:21
kbmonkey:P08:21
kbmonkeyso I am sad I have min brain cycles left for lpi :(08:21
Kilosi member something about php not being good08:21
Kilosbut python rocks08:22
kbmonkeyi know php, just need to get that piece of paper cos you know, that's how the real world (tm) works :/08:22
Kilosoh well , not too serious, everyone else is way too busy as well08:22
kbmonkeyits getting serious now, to find a job08:23
Kilosoh ya. qualifications mean everything. if not bought08:23
Kilosthats not good news lad08:23
kbmonkeyironic, with 10+ years experience, I can say it counts for everything compared to a piece of paper. yet, everything works the other way.08:24
Kilosyip without that paper you are classed as doff08:25
kbmonkeymy other option, is to invent the next great thing :)08:25
Kiloslol08:25
kbmonkeyi _was_ considering my own tech support business, supply free OS (Ubuntu)08:26
Kilosyeah but isnt pmb kinda slow for IT work08:26
Kilosnot called sleepy hollow for nothing08:27
kbmonkeyyes. but i also know from experience, marketing is everything08:27
kbmonkeypmb is a very industrious town, not much action, but lots of business. factories and commercial08:28
Kilosah maybe it grew up since i was there08:28
kbmonkeyand lots and lots of old fogies who need tech support, not like us geeks Kilos ;O08:28
Kilosha ha ha08:29
kbmonkeyit did indeed! since the 8 years i last lived here, it sure did grow!08:29
Kilosadvertise at the post office. make a flyer to go in every postbox08:29
Kilosand maybe a yellow pages add08:30
kbmonkeyperhaps getting more out there, ie setup stalls in malls08:32
kbmonkeywb maiatoday o/08:32
maiatodayhi kbmonkey08:32
Kiloshiya maiatoday 08:32
kbmonkeydoes anybody know what telkom considers "local bandwidth"? their site is hopeless to give any detailed info08:39
kbmonkeyand mybroadband posts date back to 2009/2010 :/08:39
bakumankbmonkey, alles is blender tot jou cap opraak08:42
bakumanDAN begin jy eers local bebruik08:43
bakuman*blended08:43
Kilosbbl08:53
kbmonkeyoh, did is stupid bakuman :/08:56
kbmonkeyso they cant give you the option to use local before your cap08:56
bakumanno, and yes it is stupid08:56
kbmonkeyso I cant get updates or repos without screwing the rest of the house over08:56
magespawnI recall vqg08:56
bakumanexactly :(08:56
kbmonkeywow, telkom sure is a bunch of rats08:56
magespawnI recall vaguley there is a way to do it08:57
magespawnBut think is requires two accountsnot the free local08:57
magespawnAnd the local is only locally hosted .co.za sites not even .net like @lantic08:59
bakumanhire a server, run a proxy on it and then get local only internet09:00
kbmonkeynot a bad idea bakuman. ssh forwarding to serve out int pages09:02
kbmonkeyMaaz: coffee on09:02
* Maaz flips the salt-timer09:02
kbmonkeyMaaz: rusks?09:02
Maazkbmonkey: rusks are dunkable hard biscuits09:02
kbmonkey:p I know that...09:02
kbmonkeyMaaz: rusks please?09:02
bakumanlol09:02
Maazbehind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone kbmonkey09:02
kbmonkeyokay, it wil be our secret09:02
MaazCoffee's ready for kbmonkey!09:06
kbmonkeyMaaz: dankie bits and bytes09:07
Maazkbmonkey: Excuse me?09:07
magespawnkbmonkey did you get my message?09:11
kbmonkeyi did magespawn 09:24
kbmonkeyi keep my irc on a remote shell but i see awaymessages when i get back :)09:25
kbmonkeyits so that, if my bad wifi drops, i can reconnect and resume irc where i left off09:25
kbmonkeylearning the joys of screen09:26
bakumanscreen is awesome09:28
magespawnkbmonkey on AndroIRC I cannot see who is away and such.09:30
kbmonkeythe php cert from w3schools.com should be good, hey?09:33
kbmonkeymagespawn: would you know, w3schools.com is decent for studying?09:37
magespawnThat is a new one for me, but I did do a course through the w3c on html which was quite good09:39
magespawnI did not do the certification though.09:40
confluencyUh, guys09:46
confluencyYou may want to look at this: http://w3fools.com/09:46
confluencyIt's an OK resource for looking stuff up, sometimes, but it's not always accurate.  And it is in *no way* affiliated with the W3C, in spite of the misleading name.09:47
magespawnI did the learn through the W3c.org09:50
confluencyYeah, that's the actual legit site. :)09:50
kbmonkeythanks confluency, was looking for such info!09:51
nuvolario/ lo everyone10:42
kbmonkeylo nuvolari  o/10:44
kbmonkeyI just cannot find _any_ info on what Telkom defines as local bandwidth, and when it kicks in10:44
kbmonkeyfrom the horse's mouth I mean10:45
Banlamthe telkom contracts, doesn't the local banwidth only kick in when you finish your normal cap10:45
Banlamand local bandwidth should be any traffic to a south african IP10:45
kbmonkeyapparently it does Banlam. but Im trying to find their official statement on this10:46
Banlamis there a reason you think otherwise?10:46
Banlamwhat package are you on?10:46
kbmonkeybecause, well with Telkom you know you cant trust them by heresay10:46
Banlamheh10:46
kbmonkeywill the package matter? I'm not sure its for my old man's dsl\10:47
Banlam"Your blended data allowance (CAP) is used by default, your local only access CAP applies only once your blended CAP has been depleted."10:48
Banlamhttp://www.do.co.za/broadband/offerings/internet-bundles/do-level-1/#note_210:48
Banlamthat what you're looking for?10:48
kbmonkeydo == Telkom now?10:48
Banlamyeah10:48
Banlamdo internet10:48
Banlamredirected from telkomsa.net10:48
kbmonkeywhat if this dsl was bought before they merged?10:49
kbmonkeyah okay tanks Banlam 10:49
Banlamdo has always been a telkom product10:49
Banlamnp10:49
Banlammy gran was on telkom internet 1GB or whatever it was10:50
Banlamand it was the same procedure10:50
kbmonkey really got excited thinking I could use the local data for study videos. oh well10:51
tumbleweedyou can always buy cheap local data from another ISP10:53
Banlamwas also going to suggest that10:54
kbmonkeyfunny you should say that tumbleweed, this 2 year contract is nearly over :)10:55
Banlambut there's nothing stopping you having 2 ISPs10:55
tumbleweedand some provide pretty good pre-paid prices. No 2 year contracts required10:56
kbmonkeyi used afrihost before, no hickups there10:56
magespawnThen you can setup to use the local cap only for local10:59
kbmonkeyor is mweb preferable?10:59
magespawnIs uncapped not an option?11:00
kbmonkeyit can be, will make a list of deals11:02
kbmonkeyit depends on the pricing, of course11:03
magespawnMy mweb is 588 per month 1 meg line excludes tellin at 18011:05
queerytellin?11:17
Banlamtelkom line rental11:18
Banlamhey queery o/11:19
magespawnBanlam nice translate11:20
Banlam:)11:20
queeryhi Banlam 11:20
Banlamqueery, how's life treating you in gauteng?11:20
Kerberothreatening 11:21
Kerbero:P11:21
superflykbmonkey: I tried getting my new ADSL up and running with Afrihost, but they were just playing stupid, so I dumped them and got Axxess for the same price, and much less hassle11:21
* Banlam hasn't had problems with Afrihost11:22
BanlamI've had that free 1GB accoutn for months, and got an uncapped with them for january11:22
maiatodayhi queery11:23
superflyBanlam: I didn't have problems with them at my previous house, but this time round their mail server was rejecting my mail, their support agents replied HOURS later with stupid "solutions" that were unrelated to the problem11:23
superflyI just gave up after 2 days of fighting with them11:23
Banlamsuperfly, right11:23
queeryhihi11:24
superflywith Axxess I can pick up the phone and I can speak to someone in minutes11:24
magespawnLater all.11:24
queeryI just spoke to them11:24
queeryI think im goiing with them11:25
queeryBanlam, surviving, actually enjoying it alot11:26
Banlamcool :)11:26
queeryi keep taching them how to use a circle though11:26
Banlama circle?11:26
kbmonkeyah axxess, they have good pricings :)11:27
queerytraffic circle11:32
queeryok gatta run11:32
queerybye11:32
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Kilosgc, coffee on13:42
* gc flips the salt-timer13:42
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee on13:45
* Maaz puts the kettle on13:45
kbmonkeylet them race it out13:45
bakumanlol13:45
kbmonkeywill they meet the race condition? only time will tell as we continue with: battle with the bots! stay tuned...13:46
gcCoffee's ready for Kilos!13:46
KilosMaaz, ty13:46
MaazYou are welcome Kilos13:46
MaazCoffee's ready for kbmonkey!13:49
kbmonkeyMaaz, thanks!13:49
Maazkbmonkey: Okay :-)13:49
zerefo0o0o14:29
Kiloshi zeref 14:58
Alive_ah :)16:22
Alive_Is there anyone here from Durbanville ?16:43
magespawnEvening all17:37
KilosXhmmm18:00
bakumanmmmh18:05
KilosXlol evening guys18:05
magespawnHi KilosX18:08
KilosXso many peeps here and the fly is gone18:08
KilosXhiya mage18:08
KilosXgrrr18:08
KilosXmagespawn, 18:08
magespawnA nd the Mrs18:08
KilosXmust be their connextion18:09
KilosXso who is gonna tell me how to register this nick from xchat18:09
magespawnThat's what I thought or maybe their electricity18:09
KilosXya could be18:10
magespawn"/msg nickserv register nickname" I think like that, but could be wrong. Why the X?18:12
KilosXxubuntu18:12
KilosXso no one laughs when i make mistooks18:12
magespawnAhh18:12
KilosXdo you see what nickserv said magespawn 18:14
magespawnNo18:14
KilosXInsufficient parameters for REGISTER.18:15
KilosXSyntax: REGISTER <password> <email>18:15
KilosXwhere the place for nick?18:16
magespawnI assume that it will work for the nick that you are currently known as18:16
magespawnSo something like this18:16
KilosXya thats no good18:16
KilosXgrrr18:16
magespawnWhy?18:16
KilosXi want x nick here but same password18:17
KilosXand it knows my password is for Kilos18:17
magespawnI do not think that matters two nicks same password18:18
magespawnLik two people with the same key to a house18:19
KilosXok so you think if i /msg nickserv password ***** and <mailaddy> it will work?18:19
KilosXi try18:19
magespawnWorth a try18:19
magespawnIf not we will know soon enough18:20
KilosXgrrr18:20
KilosXinvalid command18:21
magespawnNot working18:21
KilosXi think i actually went to irc to register last time18:21
KilosXsays i must look nickserv help18:21
KilosXlol18:24
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Banlamkilos18:25
Banlamyou must link your nick18:25
Kilosyessir18:25
Banlamis that what you're wanting?18:25
Kilosya with group18:25
Banlamerm18:26
Kilosbut had to first go to Kilos and group KilosX18:26
Banlamok18:26
Banlamso you got it sorted?18:26
Kilosit wont register KilosX because the password is registered to Kilos18:26
Kilosi hope so18:26
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KilosXwill see when i sign in again if it says i am not registered18:27
KilosXbrb18:29
KilosXeish tells me again its not registered18:30
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BanlamKilosX, worked fine for me18:31
Banlamnow, as kilosX, type /nickserv group Kilos18:31
KilosXthe group thing Banlam ?18:32
KilosXoh i went other way18:32
Banlamyeah it is a bit odd18:32
KilosXit says im not logged in18:33
KilosXthats why i went the other way18:33
KilosXgrrr18:33
Banlamok, switch to Kilos18:33
Banlamidentify18:33
Banlamthen switch back to KilosX and then use the group command18:33
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KilosXyoohooo18:36
KilosXty Banlam 18:36
magespawnIs this so that you can use one password with two nicks?18:37
KilosXyip18:37
Banlammagespwan, basically yeah18:37
Banlambut the accoutns are linked18:37
Banlamso if you have ops on a specific channel18:37
Banlamyou will be able to go into a channel with either name, and chanserv should recognise you18:38
KilosXits like using a mobile as well so peeps know you are on that not the pc18:39
KilosXyou can be magiemobi18:39
KilosXlo Meesterarend 18:40
magespawnI see18:40
KilosXah you got your glasses on?18:41
KilosXteasing18:41
magespawnHa18:41
KilosXlo bakuman 18:41
KilosXgotta find other sounds. no good pidgin sounds on xchat18:42
bakumanhaha18:42
KilosXnuvolari, ping18:43
KilosXxubuntu isnt as refined as ubuntu18:44
nuvolariKilosX: pong18:45
KilosXmore geek work18:45
nuvolarilo oom KilosX 18:45
KilosXtara is deur na die volgende ronte18:45
KilosXlo nuvolari 18:45
KilosXxfactor18:45
nuvolari\o/18:45
nuvolaridis great oom!18:45
nuvolarihoeveel rondtes bly oor?18:45
KilosXya hulle begin in twee weke ek dink met tv opnames18:46
KilosXwel ek dink sy is in top 6 vrouens nou18:46
KilosXhet nie lank gesels met debs nie hulle was moeg18:46
magespawnMan has it been ages since I saw anything like that.18:47
KilosXeers 11.30nm by die huis aangekom18:47
KilosXwhat magespawn 18:47
magespawnxfactor18:48
KilosXoh didnt you see my brat last year18:49
magespawnNo, sorry.18:49
nuvolariKilosX: did you post a link oom?18:49
nuvolari(today i mean)18:49
KilosXvan laas jaar nuvolari 18:49
KilosXno18:50
KilosXnothing till tv shows all recorded18:50
KilosXso quite a few weeks to go18:50
KilosXhet jy nog laas jaar se link nuvolari ?18:51
nuvolarisjoe oom18:53
nuvolariI dunno18:54
nuvolarior do you mean the one I have?18:54
KilosXmoenie worrie nie seun18:54
nuvolari(the video)18:54
KilosXya that old one18:54
nuvolarior the youtube one?18:54
KilosXbut magespawn on  fone so no good i think18:54
KilosXoh my were there 218:55
nuvolariah18:55
magespawnSend I will just save it for later.18:55
nuvolariKilosX: the one on my server and the original youtube18:55
KilosXthey are the same arent they nuvolari ?18:55
KilosXyour server is better, youtube sucks18:56
nuvolariKilosX: wow, been watched 26023 times18:56
KilosXwow who by?18:56
KilosXdoes everyone have access to your server nuvolari 18:57
nuvolariKilosX: ya oom, it's public, but only for the links I physically provide :P and my website18:58
KilosXah18:58
KilosXok can you give that to magespawn please18:58
* nuvolari relives the video18:59
nuvolarimagespawn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFtSQEyuUiA19:00
KilosXthe little shit is good hey?19:00
nuvolarishe is oom!19:01
nuvolarimagespawn: ermember to put on headphones19:01
nuvolariand have a box of tissues at hand19:01
nuvolari*remember19:01
magespawnPeople in here sometimes sound like Tony Stark, or Bruce Wayne. " my server."19:01
KilosXlol19:02
nuvolarimagespawn: and savor the expression of the judges' faces19:02
magespawnWill do.19:02
nuvolarimeh. there's probably a better word for that, but my english is a bit broken tonight :P19:02
magespawnKilosX what is the "brats" name?19:03
KilosXtara19:03
magespawnNo that's quite a good one.19:03
KilosXtara-lynn19:03
magespawnOkay cool.19:03
magespawnI have not watched ordinary TV for 7 months now19:04
KilosXthey never show xfactor aus here only the yanks19:04
nuvolarimagespawn: I don't think you're missing anything on TV19:05
KilosXno tv sucks nowadays19:05
* nuvolari got a TV from his parents, but it's still in the closet19:05
magespawnThat is what led to us stopping watching it 19:05
KilosXif you have a good internet connextion then there are tons of good movies out there19:06
KilosXian downloads and brings to me when he can19:07
magespawnFriend I Klerksdorp does it for me19:07
KilosXah19:07
KilosXhi psydroid 19:08
psydroidhi Kilos19:08
magespawnHave big hard drive here19:08
psydroidhi magespawn19:08
magespawnHi psydroid19:09
nuvolariwow, this guy is good19:10
nuvolarihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGY-a821QU19:10
KilosXwho is he nuvolari 19:10
nuvolariMaaz: tell kbmonkey rc heli pilot extraordinaire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGY-a821QU19:10
Maaznuvolari: Righto, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode19:10
nuvolariKilosX: this rc heli pilot oom19:11
KilosXah ty19:11
nuvolarihe can almost mow his lawn with a heli :P19:11
KilosXlol19:11
nuvolariohi mrs_fly :D o/19:12
KilosXi go bath and bed now. night guys. sleep tight19:12
nuvolarinight oom KilosX 19:12
KilosXmrs_fly, wb19:12
nuvolarisleep tight19:12
KilosXty19:12
magespawnNight Kilos19:12
magespawnIronic is learning to programme Python on windows in Idle.19:14
magespawnHi superfly19:33
superflyhi magespawn19:33
magespawngetting used to strings and integers19:37
kodezhi everyone19:43
magespawnHi kodez19:44
kodezhi megaspawn. how are you today?19:45
magespawnsuperfly, kbmonkey was suggesting a greeter bot. Good idea?19:45
magespawnNot bad and you?19:45
kodezi had a stomach bug today and didn't finish my assigment that is due today19:46
magespawnNot soo good, can you get an extension?19:47
magespawnLater all I am off to Bed, night.19:51
kodezno19:51
kbmonkeythat heli flying is quite something nuvolari 19:54
Maazkbmonkey: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey rc heli pilot extraordinaire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGY-a821QU" 43 minutes and 22 seconds ago19:54
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