[01:29] <len-1204> ailo, have you set a bug for the panel volume control?
[01:58] <len-1204> Astraljava ping
[02:01] <len-1204> I am not sure which app to file a bug against... on the desktop with the nvidia interface... where plymouth would run I get a text replacement that is stock ubuntu rather than ubuntustudio
[02:28] <len-1204> Bug #964931 
[02:30] <len-1204> Four install reports on two machines both i386 filed on todays ISO
[02:32] <len-1204> ScottL a comment on the above bug. I don't know where this fall back is kept on the live DVD or how it is activated... but it would be nice to include it in the install.
[02:34] <len-1204> Right now my screen blanks and I get "no signal" on my monitor. I know just to wait and it will come back. Someone else may feel their system has crashed.
[02:45] <ailo> ScottL: astraljava: In my opinion, the volume control problem is worth some trouble.
[02:45] <ailo> It's such a basic thing on your desktop, and it's not working
[02:45] <ailo> Major confusion for the user
[02:45] <len-1204> ailo bug no?
[02:47] <ailo> len-1204: I haven
[02:47] <ailo> I haven't made a bug for it
[02:55] <len-1204> ailo let me know the number if you do. I'll add it to the test results.
[03:25] <len-1204> ailo, the only xruns I seem to get are when the video card turns off from the power manager.
[03:26] <len-1204> Both of those settings can be set to never though.
[03:59] <len-1204> ScottL After a boot to live, in the /lib/plymouth/themes/ directory, there is a link called text.plymouth that points to /etc/alternatives/text.plymouth
[04:00] <len-1204> This file shows on machines that have a poorly supported video card (nvidia in my case)
[04:02] <len-1204> This file seems to set: the text (set to "Ubuntu 12.04"... could be changed to add the word studio) and a set of colours.
[04:04] <len-1204> I think changing the brown to some blue shade might be nice too.
[04:09] <len-1204> The same files exist on the installed drive as well, but for some reason it doesn't get used. Is there some plymouth config we have missed?
[04:33] <len-1204> I have added ubuntustudio-look to bug #964931 as that looks like where plymouth stuff gets set.
[04:34] <len-1204> good night all
[12:11] <scott-work> david h. was working on a blueprint to "Enable jack detection features in the "Sound Settings" page of GNOME Volume Control" : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-p-sound-settings-improvements
[12:12] <scott-work> i wonder if a) he will continue work this cycle and b) if we can help/influence him with either suggestions and/or support
[12:12] <scott-work> gah, i just realized i haven't emailed the TB about the LTS proposal.....damn, damn, damn
[12:12] <scott-work> i will see about that this morning
[12:22] <scott-work> email to TB is done and sent :)
[12:22]  * scott-work hopes he wrote it well
[12:39] <scott-work> micahg: when you are available, can you help uploading for bug #963498 ?
[12:56] <astraljava> scott-work: If you have time, please have a more thorough chat with len_ and ailo re: volume applet. They seem adamant in changing it still for precise.
[12:56] <scott-work> astraljava:  sure
[12:57] <astraljava> scott-work: I can make the change fairly quickly, if need be.
[12:57] <scott-work> astraljava: i was hoping to file a few bugs this morning (after i get _some_ work done, i haven't much so far, hehe) then i wanted us to talk about what bugs are out there and which we want to address
[12:57] <scott-work> astraljava: what would be required for the change?
[12:58] <astraljava> scott-work: A few configuration file changes. I can start preparing for it in a couple of hours.
[12:59] <astraljava> scott-work: ...and then of course testing the new packages, file the necessary FFe bugs, promote them for upload. :)
[13:00] <scott-work> aye
[13:00] <ailo> Let me know what I can do to help, and I will
[13:01] <scott-work> if we are going to the release team with this i would like for us to have already worked out a plan to get this tested and uploaded
[13:01] <ailo> If we can do it now, I'd rather just get it done. It would even be better to have no applet at all, than to have the wrong mixer
[13:01] <scott-work> i think getting micahg 's input would be advantageous, if not almost critical
[13:02] <scott-work> astraljava: ailo: can we agree to get micah's input first, then if everyone agrees we can move quickly?
[13:03] <ailo> Works for me.
[13:04] <ailo> My view is that if it can at all be done, it should be done. No hesitation what so ever
[13:05] <astraljava> scott-work: Sure, he helped in getting it changed for Xubuntu, too.
[13:07] <scott-work> perhaps presumptuous of me, but since he may be doing the uploading i wanted to get his "buy-in" as well :P
[13:11] <astraljava> scott-work: ACK. :)
[13:27] <astraljava> Ok, I'm back in about 4 hours or so.
[13:54] <len_> scott-work have you seen CW's email on the list?
[13:59] <scott-work> len_: about the menu?
[13:59] <len_> yes
[14:03] <scott-work> yes, i did, i spoke with colin in #ubuntu-release before his response and pinged micah to see if he can help upload it
[14:04] <len_> we should be testing every ISO these days? or only ones we know have changes?
[14:06] <len_> I'll back scroll when I get home...
[15:23]  * astraljava is actually online again
[15:40] <scott-work> astraljava: that screenshot of yours where the partitioning shows the xfce icon, any idea where that might be located?  in ubiquity?
[15:45] <astraljava> scott-work: No idea. I'm not knowledgeable regarding the appearance of things.
[15:45] <astraljava> But I can look into it.
[15:45] <astraljava> scott-work: You might want to ping knome about it, though.
[15:45] <scott-work> good idea!
[15:45] <scott-work> knome: do you know the location for the xfce icon that the partitioning tool uses during installation?
[15:57] <astraljava> scott-work: I only see the mouse icon @ ubuntustudio-slideshow-ubuntu/slideshows/xubuntu/slides/icons/menu_16.png
[16:01] <scott-work> i would be surprised that it would be in any of our current code since we've been through it quite a bit already
[16:04] <astraljava> scott-work: Yeah, it doesn't really make sense looking at it quickly. But I'll do a little bit more thorough investigation.
[16:13] <scott-work> astraljava: sorry, didn't mean to imply that it _WAS_ in ubiquity, i really don't know, it could be in another package 
[16:14] <scott-work> i just feel like it most likely is external to ubuntu studio packages at this point
[16:23] <astraljava> scott-work: Yep. That's why I need to do a more thorough investigation, to find out where it fetches that icon actually.
[16:35] <astraljava> What is the pipe (|) character keyboard combination in english charmap?
[16:39] <astraljava> argh
[16:40] <astraljava> Nevermind, it's the f***ing qemu messing with the keys. Can't get most of the chars that require AltGr to work.
[16:45] <astraljava> You know what, I give up. Until I'm at real hardware, I refure to debug things where I need to work with pretty common stuff that this f***ing virt software doesn't support.
[16:51] <scott-work> astraljava: i think ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork: might be the ticket :)
[16:51]  * scott-work hasn't actually looked yet, but is about to look
[16:58] <scott-work> it's really no fun using a windows machine to search fro stuff in launchpad when i could 'apt-get source ubiquity' and then just grep a few things so easily
[17:03] <scott-work> astraljava: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/ubiquity/precise/view/head:/bin/ubiquity-dm
[17:03] <scott-work> it's around line 335 or so
[17:04] <scott-work> i got frustrated blindly looking for an image that might not be there (which it isn't) so i decided to open the changelog in launchpad via firefox and search for 'Xubuntu' found it then the revision number of the code and searched again...viola
[17:05] <scott-work> oh wait, this is the background
[17:05] <scott-work> i still haven't found the icon though
[17:06] <scott-work> sorry, there were two things i was thinking about...back to the change log then
[17:07] <astraljava> scott-work: There's no mention of "*studio*" in ubiquity source package.
[17:07] <scott-work> i saw a place (for the wallpaper) where kubuntu and xubuntu (along with ubuntu obviously) are mentioned explicitly and i was sad ;(
[17:08] <scott-work> but then i realized that, well, he haven't been using the live dvd yet, so it probably shouldn't be there :)
[17:26] <scott-work> i'm pretty sure it is ubiquity though but it appears to that it is using images from the dvd
[17:27] <scott-work> astraljava: you might grep Xubuntu and see what pops up, i'll get it tonight if you are can't
[17:44] <scott-work>   
[17:45] <scott-work> email sent to -dev mailing list about the remaining bugs, can people look at the email and reply please
[17:46] <knome> scott-work, re icon: no, but ochosi might know :)
[17:49] <micahg> hi scott-work, how can I help?
[17:57] <scott-work> thank knome 
[17:58] <scott-work> micahg: we have approval on the menu bug #963498
[17:58] <scott-work> micahg: would you mind helping us to upload the changes to the repos?
[17:58] <scott-work> 'tis a simple change and colin (lightly scolded me) said it was okay
[17:59] <micahg> yeah, seems fine, but I have meetings for the next 2-3 hours, I can try to upload though, is it committed to bzr?
[17:59] <scott-work> micahg: yes, it is committed in bzr
[18:00] <scott-work> i have a meeting too, gotta go
[20:07] <scott-work> webchat might have crapped out on me, perhaps about two hours or so hours ago, i wonder what i missed :P   i'll check the logs later
[20:37] <astraljava> scott-work: Nothing was spoken during the time between your "i have a meeting..." and "webchat might have shat.." messages.
[20:38] <astraljava> scott-work: I need to sleep now, so I'll respond to your bug mail on dev list in about 16 hours or so, will that do?
[20:38] <scott-work> astraljava: thanks and sure :)
[20:40] <astraljava> Ok good, thanks. :) See ya tomorrow.
[21:01] <scott-work> going home
[21:28] <len_> It seems ISO build has gone to manual.
[21:28] <len_> No new ISO today.
[21:49] <ScottL> len_, well that is a relief actually
[21:50] <ScottL> i think i still need to test the latest one...well perhaps, or perhaps not, i'll check the website in a minute
[21:52] <len_> Yes, I was thinking I would have to install a new one and do reports every day... I don't really have that time.
[21:55] <len_> ScottL, I will investigate the text.plymouth thing.
[21:56] <len_> I will also look at a few things to do with the partman icon.
[21:56] <ScottL> len_, i'm guess we used the default stuff in the plymouth theme and need to replace "ubuntu' with "ubuntu studio"
[21:56] <ScottL> but that is a guess (even if it is an educated one)
[22:01] <len_> ScottL, there is a text theme both on the DVD and in the install, the one on the DVD works, but not the one in the install. Changing the text one should be easy enough... but getting it to work on the install may be more than I can figure
[22:02] <ScottL> hehe, that's interesting and a good point
[22:03] <len_> Anyway, I'm off to reboot land to try out some things...
[22:19] <ScottL> micahg, one other thing, can we get your thoughts on updating the mixer plugin to use a different backend (that's my understanding of the fix/update)
[22:20] <ScottL> i'm sorry i forgot to mention/ask this earlier
[22:27] <len-live> From the dvd manifest:
[22:28] <len-live> plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text	0.8.2-2ubuntu28
[22:28] <len-live> plymouth-theme-ubuntustudio	0.42
[22:30] <len-live> from /var/log/boot.log... Found label 'Ubuntu-Studio 12.04 _Precise Pangolin_ - Alpha i386 (20120325)'
[22:30] <len-live> This disc is called: 
[22:30] <len-live> 'Ubuntu-Studio 12.04 _Precise Pangolin_ - Alpha i386 (20120325)'
[22:31] <len-live> Not sure how the disk label is set, but it should be changed to beta.
[22:34] <len-live> there is a file in the ISO root called README.diskdefines It is the only place I find the word alpha.
[23:10] <ScottL> len-live, i haven't a clue actually
[23:11] <len-live> Do we set alpha and beta and release?
[23:12] <len-live> Or is it supposed to be auto?
[23:18] <ScottL> len-live, it will be done auto when the full release is ready
[23:18] <len-live> I won't worry about it then.
[23:19] <ScottL> :)
[23:40] <knome> uh oh