[09:34] <ochosi> have any of you seen this xubuntu-based distro before? http://mystras.cloudfactory.eu/
[09:34] <ochosi> (just stumbled across it by chance)
[09:36] <ochosi> unfortunately there's not really anything for us to benefit from. it seems to be just a mashup of xubuntu and elementary
[10:27] <knome> ochosi, "built around the compiz window manager" :P
[10:29] <knome> they even copied the 3-year old documentation template: http://win.cloudfactory.eu/Mystras/pages/gallery_files/05022013.png
[10:30] <knome> http://win.cloudfactory.eu/Mystras/pages/gallery_files/05022015.png <- is that nautilus?
[10:35] <ochosi> knome: no, that's marlin
[10:36] <knome> k
[10:36] <ochosi> i also suspect that "they" is only one
[10:36] <knome> me too
[10:37] <ochosi> btw, from what i tested yesterday in precise there are quite a few apps not providing >48px appicons
[10:37] <knome> yup
[10:37] <ochosi> so it might be easier to compile a list of those that actually look crisp in tabwin :)
[10:38] <ochosi> but in the end it's something i'd like to discuss with mr_pouit because some apps would need patches to provide larger app-icons
[10:39] <ochosi> knome: do you have time/motivation to draw 64px icons for apps? ("draw" as in: port 48px svgs to 64px svgs)
[10:39] <knome> wouldn't just strecthing go?
[10:39] <ochosi> yeah, i guess. that's what i did for gmusicbrowser anyway
[10:40] <ochosi> i'll quickly test it with the text-editor icon
[10:46] <ochosi> knome: see the nice difference between the two text-editors: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03262012-124625pm.php
[10:47] <ochosi> (it's only stretched)
[10:48] <knome> y
[10:49] <ochosi> but then again, it seems that leafpad only provides a 48px icon
[10:49] <ochosi> because i added its appicon as well as gedits
[10:49] <ochosi> so it might need a patch
[10:50] <knome> mh
[10:51] <ochosi> oki, anyway, i'm off till late or tomorrow
[10:51] <ochosi> (most likely)
[10:52] <knome> again
[10:52] <knome> bleh
[10:53] <ochosi> again what?
[10:53] <knome> again off ;)
[10:53] <ochosi> right :)
[10:53] <ochosi> yeah well, i might be kinda online but not able to do much anyway in the afternoon
[10:57] <knome> hehe
[10:57] <knome> k
[10:59] <ochosi> btw, i just read in gtk's roadmap that this is supposedly possible with gtk3.4: https://gitorious.org/gnome-design/gnome-design/blobs/master/mockups/theming/unfocused-window.png
[10:59] <knome> heh
[10:59] <knome> nice, i think
[11:00] <ochosi> yes, would be good to try to get that
[11:00] <ochosi> although it'd set apart gtk2 and gtk3 apps even further
[11:00] <knome> hard to say if it's actually nice before i've used it for a while
[11:00] <ochosi> which is bad for xfce
[11:00] <ochosi> if it's subtle it's certainly good
[11:00] <knome> of course, but what can we do?
[11:00] <ochosi> not much :)
[11:00] <knome> it's just improvements for those with gtk3
[11:00] <knome> it doesn't mean the gtk2 theme sucks
[11:03] <ochosi> yeah i know, it's just limited
[11:03] <ochosi> anyway, no reason to dream about xfce4.12 when 4.10 hasn't been released
[11:03] <knome> hehe
[11:03] <ochosi> (supposedly 5 days to go)
[11:04] <knome> 4.10 ?:)
[11:04] <ochosi> mhm
[11:11] <knome> right'o
[11:39] <ochosi> knome: btw, your firefox bug in oneiric: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03262012-013908pm.php
[11:50] <knome> ochosi, y
[11:50] <ochosi> just sayin, it has always been there
[11:50] <knome> yeah
[11:51] <ochosi> you could file a bug upstream though
[11:51] <knome> i could
[11:51] <knome> :)
[11:51] <knome> i'll probably do that sometime i'm feeling productive again
[11:51] <knome> now i'm having coffee + bun
[11:52] <ochosi> seeya, hf
[11:52] <knome> see you :)
[11:53] <knome> i'm off as well, see you everybody
[12:43] <pleia2> knome: thanks for publishing the article, and all the twitter activity!
[13:36] <ochosi> seems like the current daily snapshot of xubuntu has a ubiquity bug, i can't seem to get across "removing conflicting operating system files" (even though there aren't any other OSs installed
[13:50] <ochosi> hm, it worked on the third or fourth attempt
[16:45] <pleia2> 09:43:27 < ThePendulum> pleia2: http://i.imgur.com/bZtjx.png
[16:45] <pleia2> seen this?
[16:46] <pleia2> (I asked him to submit a bug, but he can't log into lp)
[16:46] <pleia2> in 12.04
[16:46] <pleia2> ah
[16:46] <pleia2> 09:45:27 < Sysi> I think that's problem with your gtk theme
[16:46] <pleia2> 09:45:51 < Sysi> what if you change it?
[16:46] <pleia2> 09:46:29 < ThePendulum> Oh, indeed
[16:47] <pleia2> 09:46:52 < ThePendulum> But the theme comes with Xubuntu 12.04 by default. You may want to remove or update it
[16:47]  * pleia2 off to more wedding venue hunting
[17:59] <scott-work> ochosi: do you know how the xubuntu logo is set for the graphical partitioning confirmation during installation?
[17:59] <scott-work> astraljava has a very good screenshot of it but i'm going into a meeting now, i'll find it after i get out
[18:03] <astraljava> ochosi: Scott is referring to this one: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/us_precise_dash-and-xubuntu-logo.png
[19:04] <ochosi> astraljava: hm, i haven't come across that yet, seems i've chosen the wrong install-options up to now ;)
[19:05] <ochosi> i'm wondering whether they use $icon-theme/places/*/distributor-logo.svg for that
[19:05] <ochosi> pleia2: that is albatross, which doesn't have a gtk3 theme atm. maybe we should upload the work-in-progress theme of mine, it's better than nothing...
[22:01] <ScottL> ochosi, OH, that explains our distributor logo then!  i've always wondered why that was there
[22:02] <ScottL> maybe i have it in the wrong place then, i'll see where xubuntu has it and make sure we (studio) are putting it in the same place
[22:02] <ochosi> we have it in multiple places and for p+1 i wanna check where it's superfluous
[22:02] <ochosi> for the moment it might be easiest for you to replace all of them to be sure
[22:03] <ochosi> in elementary-xfce there are a few of them
[22:03] <ScottL> i just want it to work!  superfluous is okay with me :P
[22:03] <ochosi> :)
[22:03] <ochosi> then in /usr/share/pixmaps
[22:03] <ochosi> in elementary-xfce/panel/* and maybe in elementary-xfce-dark/panel/* as well
[22:04] <ScottL> probably in usr/share/pixmaps is my guess
[22:04] <ScottL> i wouldn't think ubiquity would know to look in elementary-xfce-*/panel/*
[22:04] <ScottL> but then again you could be copying it into from elementary to usr/share/pixmaps :/
[22:06] <ochosi> no, we're shipping it in /usr/share/pixmaps and elementary directly, no copying over afaik
[22:07] <ScottL> okay, i'll check a few things, thansk ochosi !
[22:07] <ochosi> ScottL: np
[23:55] <knome> pleia2, i played a bit around with the website navigation/footer stuff.
[23:56] <knome> pleia2, now the footer shouldn't have any internal navigation stuff except from the former "quick links", now called "get started"
[23:56] <knome> pleia2, also, all pages with the sidebar now have a bit more appropriate sidebar for navigating :)