[01:24] <alesr_> hi guys
[01:24] <alesr_> one question...
[01:26] <alesr_> if I install Xubuntu 12.04 LTS Beta 1 now will it be updated with full version when final stable comes out in one month?
[03:10] <foobArrr> Setting Appearance -> Style in the Xfce settings has no effect on Gnome programs, e.g. gedit. Why? How do I fix this? (I thought both Xfce and Gnome use gtk. Am I wrong?)
[03:13] <foobArrr> Is this a gtk2 vs gtk3 problem?
[03:30] <foobArrr> This is a theme only available for gtk2 and not gtk3 problem. I hate you, Gnome 3.
[04:09] <ax562> I was wondering if anyone could help...
[04:09] <ax562> I'm running ubuntu 10.10 with xfce
[04:10] <ax562> I'm having problems with timidity...
[04:10] <ax562> I tried to install some packages that use timidity and process' fail
[04:11] <ax562> I just tried to reinstall timidity and received this error message "E: timidity-daemon: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:15] <ax562> any adice or direction I should be going?
[04:15] <ax562> advice
[06:53] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[06:54] <ThePendulum> I've got a bit of a problem. Xubuntu (11.10) seems to have switched themes for some reason, and I can't change it back
[06:55] <ThePendulum> Both the theme and the window manager are set to Albatross, but the window content still shows up in a classic theme
[06:59] <Sysi> ThePendulum: all apps or just some?
[07:00] <ThePendulum> Well, I'm not quite sure. Most apps override it by default
[07:00] <ThePendulum> But most configuration windows have the classic theme
[07:02] <Sysi> do you have needed gtk-engines installed? AFAIK Albatross is somewhat old and can be broken with new engines
[07:03] <Sysi> +it probably never had gtk3 part
[07:03] <ThePendulum> Well, it has previously worked
[07:04] <ThePendulum> How is albatross old btw? It's one of the better, less windows '95, looking themes.
[07:05] <ThePendulum> I'm afraid I have to leave. I'll be back later, hoping to solve it. Otherwise I'll just do a reinstall
[07:36] <hello> could someone tell me how to change the setting to allow thumbnails of videos  ? Thank you
[07:37] <well_laid_lawn> !info tumblerd
[07:37] <well_laid_lawn> !info tumbler
[07:38] <hello> Ah ok thank you very much
[09:14] <cYmen> window stick
[10:44] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[10:44] <ThePendulum> I've been here a few hours ago as well. Some of my configuration panels, as well as the right-click menu, seem to have switched to some kind of classic theme all the sudden
[10:49] <knome> ThePendulum, did you enable sudo or did you log in with the xfce session?
[10:49] <ThePendulum> knome: I logged in as regularly, so the latter
[10:50] <knome> logging in with the xfce (not xubuntu) session is known to cause some issues
[10:51] <ThePendulum> It hasn't caused issues in the past few months though
[10:51] <knome> we don't know what it is though...
[10:51] <knome> maybe try cleaning cache
[10:52] <ThePendulum> How?
[10:52] <knome> ~/.cache
[10:52] <knome> just remove that dir
[10:52] <knome> note that it will remove all your settings too
[10:52] <knome> err, no it won't
[10:52] <knome> :D
[10:52] <knome> sorry, i've just woken up
[10:53] <Sysi> settings are in ~/.config but you could try removing that next
[10:53] <knome> thanks Sysi
[10:54] <ThePendulum> I could as well just reinstall then, lol
[10:54] <Myrtti> or rename it
[10:54] <Sysi> that's faster, though you need to remove config in tty (Ctrl Alt F6)
[10:55] <Myrtti> I'd recommend renaming it
[11:04] <ThePendulum> I think I'm just going to do a reinstall, my system needed a clean-up anyway
[11:05] <ThePendulum> What do you guys recommend, 11.10 or 12.04?
[11:12] <knome> 12.04 is in beta2 testing stage, but it shouldn't bring many problems
[11:12] <knome> if it's a production machine you need daily, i'd recommend 11.10 though
[11:12] <knome> you can always upgrade
[11:13] <ThePendulum> I use it daily, but there's enough room in my shedule for OS failure. I guess I'll just give it a go
[11:14] <ThePendulum> When will beta2 be released, if so?
[11:14] <knome> march 29
[11:15] <knome> if you are installing beta2, consider doing a beta2 test for us
[11:15] <knome> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds
[11:15] <ThePendulum> I'll certainly consider it
[11:15] <knome> thanks, any tests anytime are appreciated
[11:16] <ThePendulum> I've used Linux/(X)ubuntu for quite a while now, but I'm not quite an advanced user though
[11:17] <knome> well, testing doesn't need advanced skills - they are clearly specified, and it basically means you will file bugs (or link to bugs) you saw during installation
[11:19] <ThePendulum> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds/14159/downloads <-- This is the ISO for Xubuntu 12.04 Beta2?
[11:29] <ansi> can anyone helpme with installaiton of xfce.. there is a error msg i got in the end after installation http://paste.ubuntu.com/900279/
[11:31] <knome> ansi, that looks more like a problem with initrd creating
[11:31] <gry> g'day knome (:
[11:31] <ansi> how do i fix that knome
[11:31] <knome> gry, hullo
[11:31] <knome> ansi, i've no idea, but i suppose you could try #ubuntu too
[11:32] <ansi> they sent me from ubuntu tohere
[11:33] <knome> ansi, right... it's not a xubuntu-specific problem as i look it
[11:33] <knome> ansi, try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:33] <ansi> buti didthissudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <knome> ansi, try the command i posted, then retry installing xubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <knome> huh?
[11:35] <gry> oops
[13:55] <adminos> hi to all. i experience lots of problems with my  videocard nvidia 8800. i have lots of graphical glitches and green dots everywhere. in windows i used RivaTuner to disable some blocks of my videocard and that helped me. how can i do that in xubuntu?
[13:58] <daddyjunior> 6
[14:10] <rsyring> I'm using xubuntu 11.10.  I would like to try different themes, do I need GTK 2 or 3 themes?
[14:13] <TheSheep> both
[14:15] <ochosi> TheSheep: heyo
[14:17] <ochosi> do you have any clue why i wouldn't be able to move ~/.config/xfce4 in my own home folder if i'm logged in via tty? (says permission denied even though i did sudo chown -R $username * in /home/$username)
[14:17] <TheSheep> ochosi: where are you moving it to?
[14:22] <ochosi> TheSheep: that was just a test. actually i meanwhile found out that on my oneiric-system my userID was 1002, now it's 1000, so there's the main problem it seems
[14:22] <ochosi> and chown doesn't affect that it seems
[14:26] <Sysi> you can use ID instead of username (at least when you don't have user with that ID)
[14:28] <rsyring> TheSheep: thanks.  Is there a way to change the color of the window title bar for inactive windows without switching to a different theme?  The windows currently don't look different enough and a different color title bar would do wonders.
[14:34] <TheSheep> rsyring: you can modify your theme
[14:34] <TheSheep> (make a copy of it, of course)
[14:34] <rsyring> TheSheep: ok
[14:40] <rsyring> ok, so if I am using one theme for Appearance and a second for Window Manager, which theme would I edit to change the inactive title bar color?
[14:41] <GridCube> the one that manages the windows decorations
[14:41] <GridCube> the window manager i would bet
[14:41] <TheSheep> actually it may be either one
[14:41] <TheSheep> good window manager themes will take colors from the gtk theme
[14:42] <rsyring> ok...I'll try the main theme first
[14:44] <ochosi> Sysi: changing both USERID and groupid numerically actually made it work
[16:18] <xubuntu627> Hello :) I'm very new at Linux so I apoligize if this is a really obvious question or if this is the wrong place, but how can I replace the bottom launcher with docky?
[16:23] <rohm1> Hi xubuntu627 :) Right clic the bottom launcher, Dashboard=>preferences and clic the minus button to remove it; install docky, launch it and add it the to autostart list; instructions may differ slightly for you as I use xubuntu in french and awn isntead of docky
[16:24] <xubuntu627> Thank you very much. :)
[16:25] <ThePendulum> Hmm
[16:25] <ThePendulum> I just installed Xubuntu 12.04, but I think I'll be switching back for a while
[16:34] <ThePendulum> I noticed a lot of the text in a prompt, including the buttons, is white coloured
[16:35] <ThePendulum> Making it very hard, if not impossible, to read
[16:35] <ThePendulum> And it's just generally unstable, a lot of applications crash or do not function properly
[16:37] <pleia2> ThePendulum: can you file bugs on these things? the beta2 comes out this week so it would be nice to get them fixed up soon
[16:37] <pleia2> you're welcome to join #xubuntu-devel if you need help filing them
[16:37] <ThePendulum> pleia2: I tried, but I can't manage to log in for some reason
[16:38] <ThePendulum> But it's quite obvious, I can't imagine no one has filed it, let alone not spotted it
[16:39] <pleia2> I haven't pulled down a daily build in a few days, but the last time I did I don't think I saw the white problems you're seeing
[16:40] <pleia2> text in the terminal is hard to read, or..?
[16:40] <pleia2> (not sure what you mean by "prompt")
[16:40] <ThePendulum> I'm sorry, I mean the notification windows that show up every now and then, for example for authentication
[16:40] <ThePendulum> 1 second, I'll take a screen
[16:40] <pleia2> thanks
[16:43] <ThePendulum> pleia2: http://i.imgur.com/bZtjx.png
[16:45] <Sysi> I think that's problem with your gtk theme
[16:45] <Sysi> what if you change it?
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Oh, indeed
[16:46] <ThePendulum> But the theme comes with Xubuntu 12.04 by default. You may want to remove or update it
[16:48] <Sysi> best way to tell is a bugreport, with that image attached
[16:50] <ThePendulum> I'm afraid I have to make some progress with some projects of mine, and I need a solid OS for that. I'm going back to 11.10 for now. I will see if I can get 12.04 on an old machine to slap it some more.
[17:39] <ThePendulum> It seems like the AWN dock causes my theme issues
[17:39] <ThePendulum> I reinstalled Xubuntu, and the issue occured right after I installed AWN
[17:39] <ThePendulum> I removed AWN but I don't know how to reset the eyecandy
[17:43] <Sysi> ... aptitude --purge remove
[17:44] <bazhang> aptitude needs to be installed iirc
[17:45] <Sysi> yeah
[17:45] <TheSheep> apt-get works too
[17:46] <Sysi> synaptic maybe can remove dependencies too
[17:46] <TheSheep> apt-get can do it also
[17:46] <TheSheep> with autoremove
[17:47] <Sysi> I think aptitude works better, but that could've worked for pendulum
[19:10] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[19:10] <ThePendulum> I was wondering if someone could give me a hand on adding my drives to fstab
[19:30] <TVasEyes> ThePendulum: partitions, perhaps.
[19:31] <ThePendulum> TVasEyes: Hmm?
[19:31] <ThePendulum> Well, yeah, partitions in the end
[19:32] <TVasEyes> so, what's the problem, if any.
[19:33] <ThePendulum> TVasEyes: I didn't set specific values for the mount options previously, but I can't remember what I used
[19:34] <TVasEyes> care to paste existing fstab and which partitions (& format) you'd like to add.
[19:37] <ThePendulum> TVasEyes: http://pastie.org/3673658
[19:38] <ThePendulum> I'd like to properly add # Storage 1/2 to the list
[19:40] <TVasEyes> and you want /dev/sd{b,c)1 available on boot?  which filesystems do they use?  are they removable media?
[19:44] <ThePendulum> They are hard drives in my PC, they are not per definition removable. They're both ntsf, however, I remember setting a more general value for it
[19:48] <TVasEyes> ok.  so "/dev/sdb1  /mnt/stor1   ntfs   defaults,utf8  0  0"  (and the same for the other partition) should work.
[19:49] <ThePendulum> So there isn't some kind of wildcard for the file system, in case I format the drive?
[19:50] <TheSheep> no, it has to know what filesystem is there in order to understand it
[19:51] <TheSheep> there is no way to guess it
[19:51] <ThePendulum> Hmm, okay then
[19:51] <TVasEyes> recommend you have a read of man mount.  when you mount a partition manually you can use the -t auto switch, I don't think that's available in fstab.
[19:51] <TheSheep> you can use auto in fstab
[19:51] <TVasEyes> in the 3rd field?
[19:51] <TheSheep> but it won't always work
[19:51] <TheSheep> yes
[19:52] <TheSheep> all the removable media use it
[19:52] <TVasEyes> ok, my documentation doesn't say so.  maybe I'll try this sometime in future.
[19:52] <ThePendulum> Auto, that was it I think
[19:52] <ThePendulum> It has worked for me the last couple of months
[19:53] <TVasEyes> TheSheep: thanks, may look into this.
[19:53] <TVasEyes> ThePendulum: good, go for it then :)
[19:54] <ThePendulum> Thanks for your support, both of you :)
[19:54] <TVasEyes> cool. :)
[19:55] <ThePendulum> Darnit, DOS games surely are addictive
[20:32] <ThePendulum> I was wondering why the Places panel item doesn't show the emblems on folders
[21:56] <plusEV> thx for making something that works with my shitty laptop lol
[22:00] <knome> plusEV, thanks, but watch the language :)
[22:19] <ThePendulum> So eeeh, I think my OS has got a bit of an identity crisis
[22:20] <ThePendulum> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25683105/Pictures/Screenshots/2012032623%3A52%3A00_Development.png