| ritz | heya, ppa:bzr/daily are these experimental packages ? How often do they break ? | 04:33 |
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| spiv | Daily ;) | 04:34 |
| mgrandi | by nature daily packages are ...breakable | 04:34 |
| ritz | hehehe :) | 04:34 |
| spiv | Well, *usually* they are just fine, of course | 04:34 |
| ritz | usually sounds good :) | 04:34 |
| mgrandi | im sure its not garuenteed | 04:34 |
| ritz | thats fine :) , as long as the fix comes in a week | 04:35 |
| spiv | The test suite of bzr's trunk always passes, that's enforced by an automatic process, so there's a limit to how horribly bad it can be :) | 04:35 |
| ritz | until then bz reports :) | 04:35 |
| ritz | sweet, thanks :) | 04:35 |
| spiv | You probably do want to be ready to rollback to the latest proper release in case of emergency, though | 04:36 |
| poolie | o/ spiv | 04:36 |
| ritz | I was unable to find bzr-colo in any ther ppa, and I like when things break infrequently | 04:36 |
| ritz | spiv, naa, I have couple of VMs setup with stable branches | 04:36 |
| spiv | And very occasionally if you have slightly different dailies on a smart server vs. smart client you might be get odd problems you would never see when using releases | 04:36 |
| mgrandi | isn't colocated built in now? | 04:36 |
| spiv | Hey poolie. | 04:37 |
| poolie | mgrandi, it's a different format to bzr-colo | 04:39 |
| poolie | (not drastically and they will be convertible but they are different) | 04:39 |
| mgrandi | ah | 04:39 |
| poolie | and i would say bzr-colo is a little more polished | 04:39 |
| ritz | hmm, another question | 05:12 |
| ritz | $ bzr branch lp:ubuntu/gtk+3.0 | 05:12 |
| ritz | Most recent Ubuntu version: 3.3.20-0ubuntu1 | 05:12 |
| ritz | Packaging branch version: 3.1.8-0ubuntu5 | 05:12 |
| ritz | Packaging branch status: OUT-OF-DATE | 05:12 |
| ritz | How does one switch branch ? | 05:12 |
| mgrandi | bzr switch? | 05:22 |
| ritz | mgrandi, seems to be http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/gtk+3.0.html#2011-07-25%2009:43:52.029711 | 06:04 |
| ritz | from a short read of http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-getting-the-source.html | 06:05 |
| mgrandi | i do not know what that means :< | 06:06 |
| ritz | neither do I, filing a bz | 06:06 |
| mgrandi | yeah | 06:06 |
| mgrandi | maybe one of the developers can figure out what that means | 06:06 |
| mgrandi | but for now i must be heading off, bedtime, night | 06:07 |
| poolie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9pEzgHorH0 - thanks lifeless, that's pretty awesome | 06:37 |
| vila | hi all | 06:44 |
| poolie | hi vila | 06:46 |
| lifeless | poolie: de nada | 06:47 |
| poolie | vila, did you get the link? you should watch it too, some time | 06:56 |
| vila | I'm watching right now :) | 06:56 |
| mgz | morning! | 07:00 |
| poolie | hi there mgz | 07:01 |
| vila | mgz: _o/ | 07:02 |
| mgz | where are we with timezones? | 07:04 |
| vila | spread ? | 07:05 |
| poolie | i'm still utc+11 til next weekend | 07:05 |
| poolie | did you all go to summer time? | 07:05 |
| poolie | i wonder if jelmer will be around? | 07:05 |
| vila | I did this week-end | 07:05 |
| mgz | hm, need to find a way of disabling video if we're going to use hangouts starting at 9 | 07:13 |
| mgz | or I'll murder my bandwidth allowance. | 07:13 |
| ritz | mgz, rip out the webcam ? | 07:13 |
| ritz | rmmod <module> ? | 07:14 |
| fullermd | To say nothing of having to wear pants. | 07:14 |
| mgz | the problem is downloading video from other people, not uploading :) | 07:14 |
| vila | wearing pants is still relevant | 07:15 |
| poolie | mgz, it varies over the day? | 07:16 |
| mgz | yeah, it uses more units from 9-6 which has generally been a nice feature because I just schedual downloads for the middle of the night, | 07:17 |
| mgz | and don't have to live with the silly hard caps other providers use | 07:17 |
| * mgz wonders if fullermd has been in the US for too long, or if he often goes commando | 07:18 | |
| vila | I think he just uses a floating TZ | 07:18 |
| vila | . o O (There is probably a joke related to drowning...) | 07:19 |
| poolie | :) | 07:19 |
| poolie | hm | 07:19 |
| poolie | so are you two expecting our call to start now? or in 40m? | 07:20 |
| vila | now | 07:20 |
| vila | I haven't checked jelmer's TZ though | 07:20 |
| mgz | I was expecting not to know, so set alarm for the earlier time | 07:21 |
| poolie | :) | 07:21 |
| poolie | ok, someone double booked me for the next hour | 07:21 |
| vila | seems to be the same as me | 07:21 |
| poolie | hm | 07:21 |
| mgz | ...which didn't actually go off till just now, because phone still had the wrong time, but I woke up anyway | 07:21 |
| mgz | so, shall we go now, can catch up jelmer when he surfaces? | 07:22 |
| lifeless | gggggggg/win 48 | 07:22 |
| poolie | i'll take that as a yes :) | 07:23 |
| poolie | ok let's do it | 07:23 |
| lifeless | poolie: http://primeradiant.com/ may interest you | 07:26 |
| poolie | lifeless, http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13009-wavering-radiant/ :) | 07:30 |
| lifeless | poolie: heh, so actually it was the narrower link I posted in #launchpad-dev | 07:31 |
| lifeless | thats really interesting | 07:31 |
| jelmer | hi mgz, poolie, vila | 07:43 |
| poolie | hi there | 07:43 |
| jelmer | Google calendar has our meeting listed as being in 17 minutes | 07:43 |
| poolie | yeah, tz changes are annoying | 07:44 |
| poolie | i think i had it in my tz | 07:44 |
| jelmer | I think it must've been in ours - unless .au had a TZ change this weekend | 08:01 |
| jelmer | we went from UTC+1 to UTC+2 this weekend | 08:03 |
| poolie | we're changing next weekend, for bonus confusion | 08:15 |
| poolie | jelmer, how about now? | 08:15 |
| jelmer | poolie: works for me | 08:15 |
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| mgz | hm, how much of a massive rewrite of setup.py should go into 2.5 | 11:52 |
| mgz | I guess I'll do the minimum there and move things around on dev only | 11:53 |
| jelmer | what are you fixing? | 11:54 |
| mgz | well, directly, installation of .mo files, | 11:55 |
| mgz | but the collected cruft of distutils hacks too | 11:56 |
| jelmer | mgz: minimum in 2.5 seems most sensible, indeed | 11:59 |
| mgz | it's still going to break things, I bet... | 12:05 |
| vila | then dev first to stabilize I'd say | 12:41 |
| mgz | you want installers or not vila? :) | 12:43 |
| mgz | this is blocking 2.5.0-2 and 2.6b2 | 12:44 |
| mgz | *b1 | 12:44 |
| vila | 2.6b1 I hop... right :) | 12:44 |
| vila | yeah, I want installers :) | 12:44 |
| mgz | I could do another translation-less release | 12:44 |
| mgz | but that's is bit lame. | 12:44 |
| vila | but nothing forbids you to use local branches (tagged appropriately if you think it's worth it) | 12:45 |
| vila | ha, no, remote setup makes that awkward right ? | 12:45 |
| mgz | I've been doing manual merges | 12:46 |
| mgz | but you just gave me an idea that could save that pain | 12:46 |
| vila | in any case, if you're cleaning up setup.py you've already got +0.5 from me ;) | 12:46 |
| mgz | no reason I can't commit a change to bzr-windows-installers that points the build at some other branch | 12:46 |
| vila | good, I'll take credit for that then ;) | 12:46 |
| vila | indeed | 12:46 |
| vila | mgz: 'translation-less' ? | 12:54 |
| mgz | no .mo files. | 12:57 |
| mgz | okay, 2.5 branches up, will propose inasec when I have some food | 13:06 |
| vila | mgz: did 2.5.0 had .mo files ? | 13:07 |
| vila | mgz: if not, I won't object to dropping them from the whole 2.5 series and debug the remaining issues in the 2.6 one (as far as windows is concerned) | 13:07 |
| vila | jelmer: see my pms ? | 13:20 |
| wgz | my laptop screen appears to have died... | 13:42 |
| jelmer | ouch :( | 13:47 |
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| mgz | and it's working again | 14:55 |
| mgz | clearly giving it a bit of a rest while I had lunch was enough | 14:55 |
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| DktrKranz | Is it possible to define per-branch hooks? Documentation only explains about ~/.bazaar/plugins, which are executed for every branch. | 15:41 |
| LarstiQ | DktrKranz: plugings can you use configuration to decide wether to act | 15:53 |
| LarstiQ | DktrKranz: so for example bzr-email will not do anything unless the right option is set for the branch | 15:54 |
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| gnuoy` | mgz, afternoon, do you have anything you could throw at bzr pqm ? | 16:40 |
| mgz | I shall look sir. | 16:41 |
| gnuoy` | thanks, I hoping its less broken | 16:42 |
| mgz | I have sent https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/2.5-config-help-topics/+merge/99372 | 16:42 |
| mgz | http://pqm.bazaar-vcs.org/ shows it building at least, we'll see how well it does. | 16:43 |
| jelmer | that's a lot further than it got earlier | 16:44 |
| gnuoy` | I think its fixed now | 16:44 |
| mgz | is the test output slightly different or am I misremembering? | 16:45 |
| mgz | looks like it's working at any rate. | 16:45 |
| jelmer | thanks gnuoy` | 16:45 |
| jelmer | gnuoy`: what was it, in the end? | 16:45 |
| gnuoy` | ok, it was fun... | 16:45 |
| gnuoy` | jelmer, when dchroot-run was moved to cupuasso | 16:46 |
| gnuoy` | it was modified to use schroot not dchroot | 16:46 |
| gnuoy` | and the command that lists locations was converted to an schroot command | 16:46 |
| gnuoy` | only it had a small typo in it | 16:46 |
| gnuoy` | which only becomes apparent when there is more than one chroot | 16:47 |
| gnuoy` | so the addition of the second chroot with the existing bug broke it | 16:47 |
| jelmer | aha | 16:47 |
| jelmer | gnuoy`: thanks again, much appreciated :) | 16:47 |
| gnuoy` | np, sorry it was bust | 16:48 |
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| mgrandi | hiya. | 17:51 |
| mgz | jelmer: what versions of bzr-git and bzr-svn and deps do you want in 2.6b1? | 17:51 |
| mgz | ...I'll go with the tags as for 2.5.0 for now, don't want to risk trunks | 17:54 |
| mgrandi | and hi mgz | 17:55 |
| mgz | and hi to you too mgrandi | 17:56 |
| mgrandi | any more work on the dump i sent you? | 17:57 |
| mgrandi | we have like a bazillion problems with fastimport now i forget what we are working on atm | 17:57 |
| mgz | yeah... | 17:57 |
| mgrandi | the dump was more just to see where the memory is going | 17:58 |
| mgrandi | aka the original problem | 17:58 |
| mgz | so, working out what accounts for the other chunk of memory was one thing | 17:58 |
| mgrandi | and i think ive found a problem with bzr-git | 17:58 |
| mgz | I had an idea we had the whole revision graph | 17:58 |
| mgz | but don't remember the details | 17:58 |
| mgrandi | what do you mean? | 17:59 |
| mgrandi | 'had an idea' | 18:01 |
| mgz | it seemed from poking things that lots of objects came from a graph cache with no apparent cleanup mechansim | 18:04 |
| mgrandi | ah | 18:04 |
| mgrandi | i dont know much about the bzr internals so you would be the expert there =P | 18:04 |
| mgrandi | but, when i was trying ot test other git repos, i keep running into problems, mostly because git can tag files and other things | 18:05 |
| mgrandi | and depending on the arguments given to git fast-exported, those can be exported (the tag) but the 'revision' (mark) that it refers to is not there, so that is making bzr fast-import die | 18:06 |
| mgrandi | and i dont think that the arguments that bzr fast-import-from-git are enough to make sure that those don't get exported | 18:08 |
| mgrandi | so i dont know if the solution is to just make it so you 'have to run git fast-export with these arguments' or to make the bzr fast-import code more resiliant to these kind of things | 18:08 |
| mgz | well, presumably the latter, but can you do a minimal reproduction? | 18:11 |
| mgz | make a trivial git repo with the problem, and get fast-import failing with it? | 18:11 |
| mgz | that would then be a way in to fixing the issue. | 18:11 |
| mgz | there are various other issues with new-fangled git things that are starting to get used | 18:12 |
| mgrandi | yeah i can try that | 18:12 |
| mgrandi | cause apparently 'any' git object can be tagged | 18:12 |
| mgrandi | but then git fast-export filters out some of these, but leaves the tags, and its all very confusing | 18:13 |
| * jelmer waves | 18:13 | |
| jelmer | mgz: what problem did you find with bzr-git? | 18:14 |
| mgrandi | jelmer, it seems to be a problem when git tags.. a file | 18:15 |
| mgrandi | and the arguments that are used in git fast-export, you can end up with a tag that has a mark/revision that isn't present cause git fast-export doesn't export it | 18:16 |
| mgrandi | or something | 18:16 |
| mgz | jelmer: I'm just thinking of the bug reports on signatures and things, which are mostly code-import rather than fast-import related | 18:16 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I'm not sure I follow - how is that related to bzr-git? | 18:16 |
| mgz | jelmer: what I need from you is whether you have guidance on what versions of bzr-git and bzr-svn and deps need to be in 2.6b1 | 18:17 |
| mgrandi | is it bzr-git that handles the git fast import stuff? or is just fastimport | 18:17 |
| jelmer | mgz: that's a good question | 18:17 |
| mgrandi | if its just fastimport then ignore me | 18:17 |
| mgrandi | =P | 18:17 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: yes, that's bzr-fastimport | 18:17 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: you can't tag files in bzr so it seems reasonable that that results in an error | 18:18 |
| jelmer | mgz: trunk should be most appropriate in both cases | 18:18 |
| jelmer | let me run the tests to see if there is anything missing | 18:18 |
| mgrandi | yeah, but the question remains whether fastimport should handle that or should just assume that git fast-export should be run with the correct arguments | 18:18 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I think it would be reasonable for it to warn and skip | 18:19 |
| jelmer | rather than falling over entirely | 18:19 |
| mgrandi | yeah, thats easy enough for me to add since i have the line where its failing at home. | 18:20 |
| mgrandi | and we still have that timezone thingy | 18:20 |
| jelmer | right | 18:21 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: well, patches welcome :) | 18:21 |
| mgrandi | yay! | 18:22 |
| mgrandi | what should happen with the invalid timezone | 18:22 |
| mgrandi | just make it use +0000? | 18:22 |
| jelmer | either that or what github does, which is just add the additional hours to the date | 18:23 |
| * jelmer is mostly focussed on bzr-git these days, rather than bzr-fastimport | 18:25 | |
| mgrandi | ah | 18:26 |
| mgz | jelmer: okay, and dulwich, subvertpy? leave on current revs? | 18:27 |
| jelmer | mgz: subvertpy yes | 18:36 |
| jelmer | mgz: for dulwich I think trunk would probably make more sense | 18:36 |
| mgz | okay | 18:37 |
| mgz | okay, buuuuilding | 18:44 |
| DonDiego | hello | 18:56 |
| DonDiego | when i uncommit i see messages like | 18:56 |
| jelmer | maar hi DonDiego | 18:56 |
| DonDiego | bzr pull . -r revid:diego@biurrun.de-20120327184815-t9xoi7ln0uuuwplh | 18:56 |
| jelmer | s/maar// | 18:56 |
| DonDiego | where are those commits stored? | 18:56 |
| jelmer | DonDiego: they're in the repository | 18:57 |
| DonDiego | i need to restore a commit :) | 18:57 |
| DonDiego | jelmer: yes, that much is obvious, but how do i access and find them? | 18:57 |
| jelmer | DonDiego: "bzr heads" will look for revisions that don't have any children | 18:58 |
| * DonDiego tries | 18:58 | |
| DonDiego | nah, it's not there, that commit is lost i guess | 18:59 |
| jelmer | DonDiego: You're looking for revid:diego@biurrun.de-20120327184815-t9xoi7ln0uuuwplh ? | 19:05 |
| jelmer | DonDiego: bzr dead --dead-only | 19:06 |
| DonDiego | what version of bazaar do i need for the "dead" command? | 19:06 |
| DonDiego | i have 2.4.1 here | 19:06 |
| jelmer | sorry, 'bzr heads --dead-only' | 19:07 |
| DonDiego | oh, that could be it | 19:10 |
| DonDiego | jelmer: i owe you $beverage | 19:10 |
| DonDiego | or a flattr if you prefer and are into this newfangled stuff | 19:11 |
| DonDiego | jelmer: thanks a million | 19:13 |
| jelmer | heh, that's okay; glad it works for you | 19:14 |
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