| hazmat | hmm. and keeps going down | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| hazmat | ugh.. looks like i hit the 2gb limit on 32bit | 00:01 |
| hazmat | which is odd because the db size is nowhere near that | 00:02 |
| hazmat | hm.. no that wasn't it | 00:05 |
| hazmat | its back | 00:06 |
| hazmat | shazzner_, incidentally thats also now available at http://jujucharms.com | 00:06 |
| hazmat | m_3, thanks for the heads up | 00:06 |
| hazmat | i installed some cheesy monitoring software (amon) recently (also stores in mongodb).. i can't think of any other reason why mongo went bust | 00:07 |
| m_3 | hmmm... right. shazzner_ thanks for the catch! | 00:08 |
| shazzner_ | hazmat: oh awesome! :) | 00:11 |
| shazzner_ | and np | 00:11 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r510 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:46 |
| _mup_ | Relation name is optional for relation-ids | 00:46 |
| bkerensa | SpamapS: any news on contest? | 00:47 |
| bkerensa | :D | 00:47 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r511 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:52 |
| _mup_ | Docstrings, PEP8, PyFlakes | 00:52 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id r495 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:53 |
| _mup_ | Merged trunk | 00:53 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-hook-context r502 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:54 |
| _mup_ | Merged upstream | 00:54 |
| SpamapS | bkerensa: initial submissions should be in by now.. I was thinking jcastro would make an announcement on cloud.ubuntu.com | 00:54 |
| SpamapS | jcastro: ^^ ? | 00:55 |
| bkerensa | :D | 00:55 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-ids-command r505 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:55 |
| _mup_ | Merged upstream | 00:55 |
| shazzner_ | hopefully mine got in :) | 00:55 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r512 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:55 |
| _mup_ | Merged upstream | 00:55 |
| jcastro | SpamapS: sure | 00:58 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r513 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 01:04 |
| _mup_ | A last bit of PEP8 | 01:04 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r514 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 01:08 |
| _mup_ | Removed debugging | 01:08 |
| _mup_ | Bug #965845 was filed: Adds support for -r option to specify relation id for relation hook commands. <juju:In Progress by jimbaker> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/965845 > | 01:13 |
| jimbaker | so that completes the relation id support - when these branches land, this will enable enumerating relation ids and then use the relation id in any hook - not just relation hooks | 01:16 |
| hazmat | jimbaker, awesome | 01:35 |
| ninjix | I'm trying to figure out how to get files using the filestorage | 01:41 |
| ninjix | what does <Deferred at 0x1931290> mean? | 01:42 |
| avoine | it's a Deferred object | 01:42 |
| avoine | Deferred is from the twisted module | 01:42 |
| ninjix | is there somethings else I need to do with the object to read the contents? | 01:43 |
| avoine | ninjix: you are trying to use the juju code from an other python module right? | 01:44 |
| ninjix | yes | 01:46 |
| ninjix | I'm using a main file for testing out the new provider functions | 01:46 |
| ninjix | I want to start interacting with a webdav server | 01:48 |
| ninjix | getting my head around twisted module | 01:49 |
| avoine | ninjix: this is the best introduction -> http://krondo.com/?p=1209 | 01:52 |
| ninjix | thank you | 01:52 |
| ninjix | avoine: this is a very helpful link | 01:56 |
| avoine | yeah it's really great | 01:56 |
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| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| _mup_ | Bug #781949 was filed: Must check certificates for validity <juju:In Progress> <txAWS:Fix Committed by therve> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/781949 > | 06:22 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| === zyga is now known as zyga-afk | ||
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| sladen | jcastro AlanBell et al: I'm preparing some previews of the Ubuntu Mono font for a request. Does anyone have a really nice juju-status screen they can snapshot? | 09:44 |
| AlanBell | not I | 09:52 |
| === zyga-afk is now known as zyga | ||
| sladen | AlanBell: any idea who here has a big cluster/cloud? | 10:31 |
| lifeless | sladen: amazon | 10:31 |
| * sladen gives lifeless a cookie | 10:33 | |
| lifeless | :P | 10:33 |
| imbrandon | sladen: maybe just take the simplets charm you casn find and fire a bunch up, should be fairly cheep it just booting screenshot shutting down eh? | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | cheap | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | plus all the other types blah blah | 10:37 |
| * imbrandon rubs eyes | 10:37 | |
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| === zyga is now known as zyga-afk | ||
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| === hazmat is now known as kapilt | ||
| marcoceppi | Is there a flag to specify which Juju configuration to use? | 15:06 |
| marcoceppi | like a -c? | 15:06 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: configuration or environment? | 15:09 |
| marcoceppi | I guess environment, is there a switch to specify a different environment file? | 15:09 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: environment is 'juju status -emyenv' | 15:09 |
| m_3 | you actually just add them into a single environments.yaml file | 15:09 |
| m_3 | and then choose based on the '-e' flag | 15:09 |
| marcoceppi | right, okay. Was just wondering if you could use multiple environment files | 15:10 |
| m_3 | there's talk of specifying this with JUJU_ENV too, but I don't know the status of the bug/branch | 15:10 |
| m_3 | no... I've seen a bug for that though | 15:10 |
| * marcoceppi is breaking the convention | 15:10 | |
| m_3 | I used to keep a bunch and just symlink them to ~/.juju/environments.yaml | 15:10 |
| m_3 | but now I usually just cram them into a single environments.yaml file | 15:11 |
| m_3 | I've got like 14 or so atm | 15:11 |
| m_3 | really use 6 or so regularly | 15:11 |
| marcoceppi | yeah, I'm to 6 here | 15:11 |
| m_3 | review queue, charmtesting, openstack, charm-dev, etc | 15:11 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: Bug #922398 | 15:12 |
| _mup_ | Bug #922398: cli should accept alternate config file path <juju:Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/922398 > | 15:12 |
| marcoceppi | m_3: Cool, thanks, until then I'll just keep pluging away | 15:13 |
| marcoceppi | Maybe I'll take a stab at patching it tonight | 15:14 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: cool!~ | 15:14 |
| marcoceppi | it's suddenly become an important use case for me | 15:14 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: you could have juju-jitsu manage the env files with a symlink too | 15:16 |
| m_3 | just sayin | 15:16 |
| m_3 | better to put in a MP with the real fix, but maybe add it to jujujitsu until it landss | 15:17 |
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| jamespage | marcoceppi, any luck with the HP cloud? | 15:21 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: no, unfortunately not yet. I'm going to contact their forums see if I can convince them to expose the S3 api | 15:24 |
| marcoceppi | Tried to use AWS s3 bucket but there's no way to differentiate the auth information for HP cloud and AWS | 15:24 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, hmm | 15:28 |
| jamespage | guess you never know | 15:28 |
| imbrandon | marcoceppi: hows your local omg env one look, i'm curious, not tried anyting local yet | 15:34 |
| imbrandon | the wp might work unmodified for drupal, well that part | 15:34 |
| imbrandon | aws just droped in git deployments of php apps to beanstalk | 15:36 |
| imbrandon | nice | 15:36 |
| imbrandon | and have a free teir for RDS now too, sweet, gonna try that oput today and see the reliability of it | 15:37 |
| imbrandon | man aws is almost to good to be tru sometimes, then i get the bill at the end of the month | 15:38 |
| imbrandon | lol | 15:38 |
| imbrandon | i wonder if they stuck rds into the s3cmd like they did the simpledb | 15:39 |
| * imbrandon goes to look | 15:39 | |
| * m_3 loving the sbuild charm... awesome way to capture packaging lore/process | 15:47 | |
| imbrandon | errr, i missed that one, yea sounds like a good idea, i wondered if someone was gonna capture the buildds brinety etal from debian | 15:48 |
| imbrandon | i think that might make a intresting deployable cloud | 15:49 |
| SpamapS | m_3: I hadn't thought of it that way.. very interesting | 15:51 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: I'm gonna ask for a really good readme :) | 15:54 |
| m_3 | kees built it for the bugsquash party so everybody could have an instant build env | 15:56 |
| SpamapS | Right | 15:56 |
| m_3 | I know that's sort of the point of sbuild itself, but... it's _much_ easier this way imo | 15:56 |
| SpamapS | m_3: I have to agree. just having a readme and all the tools you need installed on an instance is useful | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: out of curosity from our convo the other day i did go looking a bit to find something else like juju, and i did actualy come accross one, they use alot diff termanology and such but once your past that its really juju charms , the main diff it theirs is 100% wrapped in a hosted web gui | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | but thats about the ONLY diff i couldl find | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | even deploys to same places etc | 15:57 |
| SpamapS | BTW, has anybody tried putting 'placement: local' in an ec2 environment? I didn't realize this was still there.. but it allows you to build a single-node juju environment on ec2. | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: nope but i am going to now, i could use that | 15:58 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: hosted web gui.. sounds like a PaaS | 15:58 |
| * m_3 rethinks some stuff... | 15:58 | |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: it is kinda a paas of juju | 15:58 |
| imbrandon | well not juju | 15:58 |
| imbrandon | but rember when you said we couldnt find anything the same | 15:58 |
| imbrandon | i could not either | 15:58 |
| imbrandon | cept one | 15:59 |
| imbrandon | RightScale | 15:59 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: I dunno if I Meant to say that. There are other things the same, but none that let you share so easily and are fully open source. | 15:59 |
| SpamapS | lol | 15:59 |
| SpamapS | RightScale is pretty expensive yo. ;) | 15:59 |
| imbrandon | ahhh kk | 15:59 |
| imbrandon | i'm using the forever free versino for less than 5 nodes | 15:59 |
| imbrandon | and deployed a few to aws to toy with it | 15:59 |
| imbrandon | its kinda clunky tho i mean nice ideas but not exaclent exacutino i would expect from their hype | 16:00 |
| imbrandon | anyhow, was just a passing thing | 16:00 |
| imbrandon | :) | 16:00 |
| imbrandon | figured i'd scope the landscape for stuff to bring "home", i did gleen a few tidbits heere and there from a few | 16:01 |
| imbrandon | but most of these places just plain a dont ork or b suck | 16:02 |
| * imbrandon is still waiting for HP to call and let him have a beta env, its the only major player i havent touched yet even revisted gae to make sure they dident open something more than storage up | 16:03 | |
| robbiew | imbrandon: I might be able to help with that ;) | 16:59 |
| marcoceppi | m_3: SpamapS do we have a division of charms for review, or are we just going to review all of them? | 16:59 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: I was just picking based on cool names :) | 17:00 |
| marcoceppi | I'm going to download a whole bunch and review on the plane | 17:01 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: cool!... yeah, there's no harm in multiple reviews for a charm | 17:07 |
| marcoceppi | appflower looks cool | 17:07 |
| marcoceppi | I'm playing with their demo | 17:07 |
| marcoceppi | juju status doesn't show relation status per-unit anymore? | 17:11 |
| marcoceppi | arg, local provider isn't working anymore | 17:15 |
| imbrandon | robbiew: that would be awesom :) | 17:16 |
| robbiew | imbrandon: let me see what I can do | 17:17 |
| imbrandon | k | 17:18 |
| robbiew | imbrandon: pm'd you | 17:19 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: whats broken? | 17:22 |
| marcoceppi | SpamapS: I'm just getting a perma-pending status | 17:23 |
| marcoceppi | second re-bootstrap, rebooted between bootstraps | 17:23 |
| marcoceppi | about 15 mins waiting | 17:23 |
| marcoceppi | I'm not quite sure where to start diagnosing | 17:24 |
| marcoceppi | 12.04, btw | 17:24 |
| marcoceppi | Sorry, the charm is still pending, machine is reported as running | 17:24 |
| ninjix | my ProxmoxLaunchMachine.start_machine() is not executing pass where it yields from the proxmox.acquire_system(). I have try hardcoding the acquire_system() to assign the instance_id a value but juju keeps returning the common/launch.py | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: ps auxfw should show lxc-start with an init running and gettys and stuff.. yes or no? | 17:32 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: what are you yielding? @inlineCallbacks can be a bit confusing | 17:32 |
| ninjix | if I assign instance_id in the code without getting the value from acquire_system the rest of the start_machine works | 17:32 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: yeah... did some reactor schooling last night | 17:33 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: in the debugger I can see the instance_id value being assigned in my provider's client class | 17:36 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: then the returnValue(instance_id) is called | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: I think I'd need to see the code to understand :-P | 17:37 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: sure... how would you like to receive it? | 17:38 |
| imbrandon | hrm, i think i'm commiting a juju crime here | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: bzr branch would be the simplest | 17:38 |
| ninjix | ok | 17:39 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: lp:~youruser/juju/yourprovider ;) | 17:39 |
| imbrandon | ok so in my "normal" rollout i would include a tools dir with my build scripts that includes like compilers.jar ( closure ) and less.js ( rhino version ) anlong with js.jar rhino etc etc etc | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | but i'm thinking thats like packing and would be a no no in a charm | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | or am i good | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | well a no no unless your bootratraping a new compiler on arm or something :) | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | is whoever it was done with the subway juju yet, i wanna actually use it :) lol | 17:42 |
| ninjix | lp:~clayton-kramer/juju/proxmox | 17:49 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: I started hacking on the orchestra provider as my learning example | 17:51 |
| imbrandon | i started a full web lemp stack one as mine :) even trying to get a little team for it so its not just me #juju-thestack , heh | 18:01 |
| imbrandon | nginx + php + mysql ndb + zend php ce | 18:02 |
| imbrandon | memcache etc, whole stack | 18:02 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: so, what I'd recommend is that you put tools you want to have in multiple charms into a package in a PPA... | 18:09 |
| imbrandon | ] | 18:09 |
| imbrandon | k | 18:09 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 18:09 |
| imbrandon | how about a github repo then i can submodule it and keep up with upstream thats also on git hub | 18:10 |
| imbrandon | free | 18:10 |
| imbrandon | :) | 18:10 |
| imbrandon | would that work, esp if i like did from a taged release , then its pretty much a package | 18:10 |
| imbrandon | without the overhead | 18:10 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: github works fine yes. | 18:14 |
| imbrandon | rockin, maybe the more it grows and would become useful to others i might pack it | 18:15 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: the overhead of predictability and efficient encapsulation... yeah.. totally. ;) | 18:15 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: you need to earn about daily build PPA's .. there's no overhead other than having to use bzr. :) | 18:15 |
| imbrandon | predictability iof the tag same as git-buildpackage | 18:15 |
| imbrandon | i more ment the maint overhead, on me, some of these tols move fast | 18:16 |
| imbrandon | like less | 18:16 |
| imbrandon | releases 4 or 5 times a month | 18:16 |
| imbrandon | and thats one of say 10 | 18:16 |
| imbrandon | i mean i guess i could automate a nightly to pull down the latest etc i see what ya mean | 18:17 |
| imbrandon | 'but then i loose the predictability | 18:17 |
| imbrandon | with the repo sub mosdule i can update with just a git merge command and still ahve fiull control on when it does it | 18:17 |
| imbrandon | or if | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: I don't really understand what you're trying to accomplish.. but.. as long as you get the binaries in a way that happens the same every time you add-unit .. I don't care. :) | 18:18 |
| imbrandon | and i can maintain encapsulation with the tags | 18:18 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: I have my branch up on lp now | 18:18 |
| imbrandon | yup yup :) | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: saw that.. I'm a bit busy at the moment.. but will look at it sometime in the next couple of hours. | 18:19 |
| * SpamapS goes afk briefly | 18:19 | |
| ninjix | SpamapS: thank you | 18:19 |
| imbrandon | yea i'm sure its a little strange as its a internal process to me i'm trying to map but yea | 18:19 |
| imbrandon | kk | 18:19 |
| imbrandon | that an untill about the 3rd iteration of something i noramlly do it the hard way for some dumb arse reason | 18:20 |
| imbrandon | gotta fix that | 18:20 |
| imbrandon | :) | 18:20 |
| _mup_ | juju/force-upgrade r468 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | 18:22 |
| _mup_ | cleanup pre merge, fix an upgrade error handling test failure | 18:22 |
| _mup_ | juju/trunk r500 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | 18:27 |
| _mup_ | merge force-upgrade [r=bcsaller] | 18:27 |
| _mup_ | As an aid to charm developers, upgrades can be forced which merely puts the charm | 18:27 |
| _mup_ | into place on the relevant units. No upgrade-hook is executed if the upgrade is | 18:27 |
| _mup_ | forced. | 18:27 |
| shazzner | I'm working on a kusabax imageboard charm | 18:40 |
| shazzner | just thought I'd annouce that, I dunno | 18:41 |
| shazzner | I've yet to see an imageboard that's actively developed and included in the repositories | 18:43 |
| shazzner | kusabax seems like the most active and stable | 18:43 |
| m_3 | shazzner: go ahead and file a bug for it on bugs.launchpad.net/charms when you get a chance... it makes jcastro <3 | 18:44 |
| shazzner | m_3: will do :) | 18:47 |
| shazzner | um, how the heck do I make a launchpad repository for a new charm again? | 18:48 |
| shazzner | wait I think I remember now | 18:50 |
| m_3 | shazzner: just push it from a bzr repo... 'bzr push lp:~<launchpad-id>/charms/oneiric/<charm-name>/trunk' | 18:52 |
| shazzner | m_3: I got 'No such source package kusabax.' | 18:55 |
| shazzner | I've done this all before I just can't remember argh | 18:56 |
| m_3 | shazzner: hmmm... what lp url are you trying to push to? | 18:57 |
| shazzner | m_3: bzr push lp:~shazzner/charms/oneiric/kusabax/trunk | 18:58 |
| m_3 | wow | 18:59 |
| * m_3 scratching head | 18:59 | |
| shazzner | huh | 18:59 |
| shazzner | my steps: | 18:59 |
| shazzner | bzr init (inside kusaba dir) | 19:00 |
| shazzner | bzr add * | 19:00 |
| shazzner | bzr commit -m "blah" | 19:00 |
| shazzner | bzr push lp:~shazzner/charms/oneiric/kusabax/trunk | 19:00 |
| m_3 | well that's strange... it just worked for me | 19:00 |
| m_3 | bzr init | 19:00 |
| m_3 | touch readme | 19:00 |
| m_3 | bzr add readme | 19:00 |
| m_3 | bzr commit -m'initial revision' | 19:01 |
| m_3 | bzr push lp:~mark-mims/charms/oneiric/kusabax/trunk | 19:01 |
| * m_3 totally confused | 19:01 | |
| m_3 | could there be some existing .bzr cruft in that directory? | 19:02 |
| shazzner | oh haha, would it matter if I'm on precise? | 19:02 |
| m_3 | hmmm... no, I don't think so (I'm on precise too) | 19:03 |
| shazzner | huh | 19:04 |
| shazzner | it must be though since this just worked: bzr push lp:~shazzner/charms/precise/kusabax/trunk | 19:04 |
| m_3 | shazzner: sorry, limit of my lp know-how... | 19:04 |
| shazzner | m_3: np :) it's kind of confusing haha | 19:05 |
| shazzner | thanks for your help though | 19:05 |
| m_3 | shazzner: sure | 19:05 |
| m_3 | marcoceppi: ping (re wordpress/haproxy-patch) | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: here? | 19:26 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: yes | 19:27 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id r496 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 19:27 |
| _mup_ | relation_ident instead of relation_id; lazily compute relation_name from relation_ident | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: ok, I have your code now. Help me out, where are you stuck? | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: instance_id = yield proxmox.acquire_system() | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: there? | 19:28 |
| ninjix | yes | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: ProxmoxClient.acquire_system() has @inlineCallbacks but no yields | 19:29 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: :) | 19:29 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: thanks | 19:30 |
| * SpamapS really doesn't like the way twisted does this. :-P | 19:30 | |
| ninjix | I've heard dev chatter about twisted but this is my first time working with it | 19:32 |
| robbiew | SpamapS: would you say their thinking was twisted? | 19:33 |
| robbiew | ba-da-bump | 19:33 |
| lifeless | baboomtish | 19:35 |
| * SpamapS tries the fish | 19:37 | |
| jcastro | m_3: don't worry about that hadoop thing, I had jamespage check it ouy | 19:42 |
| ninjix | ahh... this makes sense now. you need the yields so the reactor can pick up where it left off | 19:48 |
| m_3 | jcastro: cool thanks! | 19:48 |
| SpamapS | ninjix: precisely! | 19:53 |
| * ninjix considers dropping another twisted joke | 19:56 | |
| SpamapS | ninjix: don't, there may be children present ;) | 20:00 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: can just keep twisting this until it's dry | 20:01 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id r497 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 20:20 |
| _mup_ | Fixed remaining tests for review-suggested refactoring | 20:20 |
| marcoceppi | m_3: what's up? | 20:31 |
| marcoceppi | SpamapS: I don't see any lxc-start processes | 20:39 |
| ninjix | SpamapS: yahooo. just got a bootstrap to startup :) | 20:50 |
| marcoceppi | SpamapS: getting this error on bootstrap now: Failed to start job juju-marco-local-file-storage; no output detected | 20:56 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-hook-context r503 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 21:35 |
| _mup_ | Merged upstream | 21:35 |
| marcoceppi | SpamapS: fixed the failed to start job | 21:49 |
| marcoceppi | Still says pending on the charm | 21:49 |
| imbrandon | EPIC , i was altready a customer and a huge fan but they got me for good now , http://newrelic.com/developers | 22:39 |
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