[00:09] <Darkwing> Riddell: sent.
[02:29] <pvivek_> i am upgrading Precise, i am running do-release-upgrade -d in tty. Everything was working fine, now generating grub.cfg is stuck in an infinite loop, in the sense, its finding my distros and again generating grub.cfg again and again. What to do to stop it? ctrl+c would kill the whole process right ?
[08:08] <Riddell> guid mornin
[09:26] <Riddell> !testers 
[09:26] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds  iso testing needed
[09:36] <tazz> Riddell, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20120327/precise-mobile-i386.iso gives a 404
[09:36] <Riddell> tazz: where is that linked from?
[09:36] <Riddell> mobile doesn't exist any more
[09:37] <tazz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds/14245/downloads
[09:37] <tazz> Riddell, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds i was looking at the active build.
[09:38]  * Mamarok fetches her old laptop and tests amd64 desktop
[09:39] <Riddell> tazz: it's here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-live/20120327/
[09:39] <Riddell> I wonder how to fix it in iso tracker
[09:40] <tazz> i can test the mobile build on my exopc
[09:43] <Riddell> tazz: fixed I think
[09:43] <Riddell> tazz: and it's an active built no mobile :)
[09:44] <tazz> \o/
[09:44] <tazz> oh ok. kubuntu-active
[09:45] <Riddell> we can rename to kubuntu-zumba if you think that would be using a better known term
[09:45]  * Riddell fears that might be a cultural trademark that hasn't reached india yet
[09:55] <tazz> Riddell, i am afraid we already would have a zumba like implementation in our bollywood industry :p
[09:59] <Riddell> ooh good idea, kubuntu-bollywood-dancers-and-singers
[10:31] <shadeslayer> Darkwing: The TF101 with sbkv2
[10:31] <shadeslayer> B70 something
[10:32] <shadeslayer> that's the serial number
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:54] <artnay> any idea if the KDE langpacks will be updated to 4.8(.1) before 12.04 release? bug 945560
[11:57] <Riddell> artnay: they are on our part (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-fr) so if they're not getting through that's a bug in launchpad 
[11:57] <Riddell> dpm: nudge nudge ^^
[11:58] <dpm> artnay, as asked on #ubuntu-translators, are they not updated? Could you give me an example where they are not, so that we can investigate it if necessary?
[12:01] <artnay> dpm: they're not. wait, I'll browse KDE's svn. should we continue this on #ubuntu-translators?
[12:01] <dpm> artnay, whichever channel of the two is good
[12:01]  * Riddell lunches
[12:06] <artnay> dpm: for example icon-tasks which was merged in 4.8. here's what LP offers: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kde-workspace/+pots/plasma-applet-tasks/fi and here's what exists in KDE: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/branches/stable/l10n-kde4/fi/messages/kdeplasma-addons/plasma_applet_icontasks.po - LP template is missing lots of visible strings
[12:09] <artnay> dpm: and some are missing because i18n work hasn't been done
[12:15] <artnay> dpm: actually I'm not even sure if that's the same package... it says the source is kde-workspace. however in KDE it's part of kdeplasma-addons and if I look at that package on LP I can't find tasks: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kdeplasma-addons/
[12:17] <artnay> dpm: according to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+sharing-details - Updated 2011-09-09
[12:18] <dpm> artnay, ok, I think that gives me enough info to investigate. It might take me a while, but I'll update the status of the bug with my findings
[12:19] <artnay> dpm: oh snap, import status invalid: https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kdeplasma-addons/trunk
[12:19] <dpm> thanks
[12:20] <yofel> artnay: that's the old svn source import, has no relevance for translations
[12:25] <shadeslayer> \o
[12:26] <shadeslayer> yay, CD size now 650 MB
[12:26] <shadeslayer> will test tonight
[12:27] <yofel> whut o.O
[12:27] <yofel> how did that happen?
[12:27] <shadeslayer> I have no idea myself :P
[12:27] <koolhead17|away> shadeslayer, hola
[12:27] <shadeslayer>  precise-desktop-amd64+mac.iso       27-Mar-2012 01:13  694M  Desktop CD for 64-bit Mac (AMD64) computers (standard download)
[12:27] <shadeslayer> hey koolhead17|away
[12:27] <shadeslayer> oh heh, 694, not 650
[12:27] <koolhead17> shadeslayer, got the visa power!! :P
[12:27] <shadeslayer> i386 is 687
[12:28] <shadeslayer> koolhead17: Woot! 
[12:28] <shadeslayer> koolhead17: I told you to keep calm :P
[12:28] <koolhead17> shadeslayer, you will laugh once i will tell you what was asked!! :P
[12:28] <shadeslayer> aha, power pc is 645 MB : precise-desktop-powerpc.iso         27-Mar-2012 01:14  645M  Desktop CD for Mac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) computers (standard download
[12:28] <koolhead17> hi sealne 
[12:29] <shadeslayer> koolhead17: PM me :P
[12:34] <afiestas> Riddell: where should we put the feedback we get doing beta testing?
[12:34] <afiestas> launchpad bugs?
[12:35] <afiestas> for example desktop effects are not working in my laptop (I'm on the installer)
[12:35] <shadeslayer> uh nope
[12:35] <shadeslayer> they should go on the QA page
[12:35] <shadeslayer> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports
[12:36] <shadeslayer> afiestas: you'll need to report any bugs on launchpad and link them to your test report
[12:37] <Riddell> afiestas: report bugs on launchpad and give yay/nay/maybe reports on iso tracker
[12:37] <tsdgeos> Riddell: any idea why libqt4-dbg does not include libQtScript ?
[12:37] <Riddell> let me see
[12:38] <afiestas> it is not possible to resize a parition in the installer isn't it?
[12:38] <Riddell> tsdgeos: there's no such thing says http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libQtScript&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[12:38] <Riddell> afiestas: it should be possible in manual patitioning yes
[12:38] <afiestas> mm I don't see how
[12:39] <Riddell> you can drag the bars left and right
[12:39] <tsdgeos> Riddell: ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtScript.so
[12:39] <Riddell> tsdgeos: which package is that part of
[12:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll get on splash stuff in a couple of hours
[12:39] <Riddell> oh yes libqt4-script: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtScript.so.4
[12:39] <tsdgeos> Riddell: libqt4-script
[12:39] <tsdgeos> ah
[12:39] <tsdgeos> there's a libqt4-script-dbg
[12:39] <tsdgeos> interesting
[12:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: too latefor beta 2 but do queue it up for after beta
[12:40] <Riddell> tsdgeos: -dbg packages just come from debian and are manually made so are error prone.  -dbgsym packages are the (incompatible) ones made automatically for ubuntu
[12:40] <Riddell> so you can also investigate those, the apt sources.list line is a bit obscure for that
[12:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, I wanted to go for post-beta nyway
[12:41] <apachelogger> keeping it fresh etc.
[12:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: you remind me of the canonical design team :)
[12:41] <afiestas> Riddell:  http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/27/plasma-windowedT13421.png ?
[12:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, it makes sense :P
[12:42] <apachelogger> you know how reviewers are
[12:42] <Riddell> afiestas: not in that dialogue you can't
[12:42] <afiestas> apachelogger: are you comming to uds?
[12:42] <apachelogger> they mention it in the beta review and then never think of it again
[12:42] <apachelogger> afiestas: nope, no time unfortunately
[12:42] <afiestas> Riddell: then there is Delete button and that's it
[12:43] <Riddell> afiestas: there should also be a drag option if you put the mouse in he right place on the bar widget
[12:43] <afiestas> oh wait... maybe I format the home directory with btrfs last time and that's  not supported?
[12:43] <Riddell> that could well be it
[12:45] <apachelogger> brtfs is not supported in ubiquity? :O
[12:45] <afiestas> oh it is a LVM
[12:45]  * Riddell goes offline to do more iso tests
[12:46] <afiestas> btw ubiquity kubuntu frontent was lacking some features right? which ones?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> I'm having some font issues with systems ettings not holding the settings with qt curve in style/applications ...any reports about this ?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> fonts aren't holding they revert back to defaults
[12:57] <afiestas> BluesKaj: in Qt/KDE or GTK apps?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> in kde and gtk  , the ~/ and other dirs lose their font settings after opening and closing a couple of times
[13:00] <afiestas> BluesKaj: directories loosing font settings?
[13:00] <afiestas> not sure I follow :s
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yeah  within ~/
[13:02] <afiestas> BluesKaj: fail to see the relationship ebtween folders and fonts
[13:03] <BluesKaj> afiestas,   it's on , nm 
[13:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:03] <afiestas> on nm? 
[13:03] <BluesKaj> don't have the energu for expalnations that won't solve my problem anyway
[13:04] <BluesKaj> nm=nevermind
[13:06] <afiestas> damn I feel so stupid when using launchpad
[13:07] <afiestas> it may be a great tool once you know it but for noobs it is horrible
[13:09] <BluesKaj> afiestas,  what are you looking for in launchpad ?
[13:09] <afiestas> I'm trying to report a bug for kubuntu-defaults (I think) in 12.04 we stil have kopete in favorites
[13:09] <afiestas> but by default we are shipping kde telepthy, so that must be changed
[13:11] <BluesKaj> oh , i don't bother with either of them , so I guess I'm no help :)
[13:12] <afiestas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ hwo the hell do I report a bug? :s
[13:12] <apachelogger> ehm
[13:12] <apachelogger> afiestas: we decided to use kopete as defualt for 12.04
[13:12] <afiestas> apachelogger: in beta2 it is not installed
[13:13] <apachelogger> that is a bug in kubuntu-meta then
[13:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^
[13:13] <apachelogger> or didn't we actually decide not to have telepathy on the cd at all?
[13:13] <apachelogger> instead keep it in universe and deploy updates there + PPA for new version?
[13:53] <alvin> Is there anyone who can give a quick workaround for bug 966226 so I can try the upgrade?
[13:58] <Riddell> alvin: ask mvo in #ubuntu-devel it's his speciality
[13:59] <alvin> Riddell: Thanks. Will do
[13:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: we have made no decision on kopete vs telepathy
[13:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: I still prefer telepathy so I'm not motivated to organise the meeting it would take to make a decision
[14:00] <alvin> (Easy :-) Can telepathy group contacts into meta-contacts and integrate with Kontact?)
[14:00] <Riddell> it can group contacts yes
[14:00] <Riddell> I'm not sure of its integration with akonadi but I suspect using akonadi would be seen as a disadvantage by many
[14:01] <shadeslayer> I believe that is coming
[14:01] <shadeslayer> vHanda and mck812 are working on that
[14:01] <shadeslayer> so it'll  be all integrated nicely sometime in the future
[14:02] <shadeslayer> glued together with nepomuk magic
[14:02] <alvin> But it's something Kopete can do now I believe (although the Kontact integration might be broken)
[14:03] <shadeslayer> On a personal note ... I don't use kontact, which is why I don't consider it a very important feature as such :)
[14:03] <shadeslayer> alvin: I'd focus more on stuff like doing what a IM messenger is supposed to do, send and recieve IM messages
[14:04] <shadeslayer> File transfer and VoIP are a plus
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ^ Implemented in ktp 0.4
[14:04] <shadeslayer> I called myself on gtalk and it worked :P
[14:05] <shadeslayer> plus, if you used empathy before, no need to re add accounts :D
[14:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: switching to 0.4 is another unmade decision
[14:05] <Riddell> it's not released yet right?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:06] <shadeslayer> I think feature freeze is this week or next week
[14:06]  * shadeslayer checks with the release manager
[14:06] <alvin> Well, I'm only a user here, but I do not agree. Many of us are used to certain features, and those features are constantly taken away. (Auto-complete in Kmail, Katapult integration in Amarok, logging in the init system,...) When some program is replaced, it's better to make sure it can at least do the same. You'll probably agree that the Kontact switch was a nightmare (and it's not completely over yet - still missing features)
[14:07] <shadeslayer> heh, I don't use kontact but I've heard the horror stories :P
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: 0.4 release is sometime at the end of April
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Feature freeze is this saturdy
[14:08] <shadeslayer> *saturday
[14:08]  * shadeslayer would recommend sticking to 0.3 at the moment
[14:08] <Riddell> anyone else get kactivitymanagerd crashing on login?  I reported bug 966247
[14:08] <shadeslayer> with the possibility of a SRU/Backport after release
[14:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: end of april is too late, 0.3 it is
[14:08] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:09] <shadeslayer> alvin: I'm not sure I can give a unbiased opinion about ktp vs kopete :P
[14:09]  * BluesKaj doesn't blame users for avoiding kmail/kontact. They aren't necessary for normal home user email
[14:09] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: plus the configuration wizard needs major overhaul
[14:10] <alvin> Me neither actually, but I noticed the meta-contact feature is missing in the beta.
[14:10] <shadeslayer> it should have the defaults for GMail/Yahoo/Other Popular EMail services
[14:10] <alvin> BluesKaj: Isn't Kubuntu proud on the largest business use for a KDE distro ;-)
[14:10] <shadeslayer> I don't want to manually enter smtp/imap server addresses :/
[14:10] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer,  all I can say is I loved loved kmail before KDE4
[14:10] <shadeslayer> alvin: does file transfer work on kopete?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:12] <shadeslayer> I think if we want to switch we shouldn't be looking at feature parity, but rather have a list of items that a IM client should be able to do and do them extremely well
[14:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer++
[14:12] <Riddell> alvin: which is the largest business use for a KDE distro?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> feature parity means squat if I can't even send a IM message properly :P
[14:13] <alvin> I don't have that data, but I suspect that Kontact might play a part in it. I do administer a Kubuntu business network, but it's not very large. Good Kolab support is a plus.
[14:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: even upstream agreed that pushing it back to 12.10 is a good idea?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> alvin,  what's the future of kmail since kubuntu is no longer "officially dev'd" by canonical, is the venture into enterprise DE apps like kmail/kontact/akonadi going to fall by the wayside and sensible email client and contained contact list be dev'd for normal users ? :)
[14:15] <tazz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds dosnt show a "desktop" version for i386 arch.
[14:15] <alvin> Kopete does file transfer. I'm not looking for arguments in favour of Kopete, but if Telepathy does nothing more or better, then why switch? I was quite fond of Kmail's many features before it became Akonadi based. The first thing to switch was the address book. Well, it's still not near the same features as it was in KDE3
[14:16] <alvin> BluesKaj: I'd like to know that answer, but as it's hard to build KDE without Akonadi, I think kdepim is here to stay. (I like the idea of akonadi very much)
[14:17] <shadeslayer> alvin: primary argument for switching is deprecated code ... but kopete has the advantage that it is very well tested
[14:17] <shadeslayer> and that there are known fixes/work around for kopete ...
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I hate akonadi ..totally unecessary for home users IMO
[14:18] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:18] <alvin> Ok, but what's deprecated code. Unmaintained? Yes, that's a problem. When looking at it from a business perspective, things look a lot different than from a home user perspective. I struggle regularly with that idea.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> it's disabled , but still occupying space :( 
[14:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes I believe that's d_ed's current thinking
[14:19] <shadeslayer> alvin: yes, deprecated code => Unmaintained by upstream
[14:19] <alvin> Is there actually a KDE based distro geared at business use?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> same with nepomuk...krusader ftw serchwise
[14:20] <shadeslayer> alvin: What are the requirements of a buisness apart from good support ? 
[14:20] <shadeslayer> Add EMail to that as well :P
[14:22] <BluesKaj> now all we need is kde/email aimed at home users ...I'm going to keep pushing for that and no need for a database tie
[14:22] <alvin> 'Well-tested', and good network integration. You'd want to be able to integrate with LDAP, and have a trustworthy NFS client (believe me, not (K)Ubuntu's strongest point). Aside from that, having a 'works guaranteed' label is fine. For that last reason, Kolab maintains their own version of Kontact to distribute.
[14:24] <alvin> (We're actually using Kubuntu as XDMCP server and client - something that is harder to do with Ubuntu.)
[14:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^ Possible points for discussion at UDS?
[14:27] <alvin> Ignoring mutt, I have yet to meet a better mail client than what Kmail could possibly be again.
[14:30] <Riddell> yes kontact is lovely if you ignore the upgrade and flakeyness issues caused by the akonadi transition
[15:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: how about simply doing the vote on the ml
[15:03] <apachelogger> IMHO all that needs saying is said, all we need is a consensus on what to do
[15:07] <Riddell> apachelogger: if you think kubuntu-council would be happy with that we can try it yes
[15:07] <Riddell> rbelem: hey this active thing is looking good
[15:08] <BluesKaj> restore kmail from kde3 to kde4 without all th enterprise/office baggage :)
[15:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: we can also hold a council vote by mail :P
[15:09] <apachelogger> if it needed further discussion then the topic should have been moved along by you, if there is not enough information to make an informed decision on then the status quo is what should be used :P
[15:10] <Riddell> apachelogger: I agree the discussion is done
[15:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: sent a mail
[15:54] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't see it
[16:40] <ScottK> OK. Replied.
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: to which?
[16:41] <ScottK> The KDE Telepathy/Kopete question.
[16:41] <Riddell> on kubuntu-devel?
[16:42]  * Riddell out
[16:48] <dantti> ScottK, Riddell would you guys be willing to add colord-kde to kubuntu? Fedora has packaged it (tho I need a new release to fix some important bugs), as I'm poking some pople to update colord package
[17:40] <rbelem> Riddell, :-D
[17:41] <rbelem> Riddell, i will finish the kwin stuff on thursday
[17:41] <mgraesslin> rbelem: btw if you have any feedback, please add to the review request
[17:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i will have a webinar to talk about qt sdk and qt quick this wednesday
[17:42] <rbelem> mgraesslin, oki :-)
[17:42] <Darkwing> rbelem: will there be video?
[17:42] <mgraesslin> good, as it is important for us to know whether it makes sense to include the patch or not
[17:43] <rbelem> Darkwing, yup, but in portuguese
[17:44] <Darkwing> damn, last time I tried to tie my very limited spanish into portuguese I failed miserably. lol
[17:46] <rbelem> mgraesslin, it worked very well, otherwise i would have to do lots of renamings and setup package conflicts
[17:46] <rbelem> :-)
[17:46] <mgraesslin> sounds good
[17:46] <mgraesslin> then I just have to check with active group whether there are start scripts to adjust and so on :-)
[17:46] <rbelem> Darkwing, in general we understand spanish, but spanish doesn t understand us
[17:47] <Darkwing> I noticed that when I was in Rio LOL
[17:47] <rbelem> mgraesslin, i can send to you my changes to the active parts by thurday
[17:47] <mgraesslin> oh that would be cool
[17:48] <mgraesslin> or best just open a review request :-)
[17:48] <rbelem> nice
[17:48] <rbelem> will do
[17:48] <rbelem> Darkwing, oh nice! you have been in rio before :-)
[17:49] <rbelem> Darkwing, nowadays rio is a more safe place
[17:49] <Darkwing> rbelem: It was years ago but yes, I loved it.
[17:49] <rbelem> :-D
[17:49] <Darkwing> rbelem: it was in 2004
[17:49] <Darkwing> I did a South American trip.
[17:50]  * dantti avoids going to rio :P
[17:50] <dantti> I can't really imagine how this world cup will be
[17:50] <Darkwing> Rio, straights of Magellan, Valparaiso Chili and Lima Peru. 
[17:51] <Darkwing> Those were my South American stops. :)
[17:52] <dantti> Darkwing: my friends told me lime is pretty cool, has some nice places to visit
[17:52] <dantti> *Lima
[17:53] <Darkwing> dantti: It was beautiful. :)
[17:54] <Darkwing> the show Torchwood, spinoff from Doctor Who is kinda strange.
[17:55] <dantti> I should go there some day, I've only been in Argentina and Paraguay 
[17:58] <Darkwing> I've been all over the world. Need to go to Africa and Antarctica and I've been to all 7 continents.  
[17:58] <Darkwing> and I regret the reason I went but, no one is perfect. :)
[18:02] <Darkwing> rbelem: You going to be at UDS-Q?
[18:05] <rbelem> Darkwing, yup
[18:06] <rbelem> :-)
[18:10] <Darkwing> rbelem: Could you make sure you update this? :) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSQSeries
[18:13] <jussi> evening all
[18:14] <jussi> dantti: where are you located? 
[18:15] <dantti> jussi: Brazil
[18:15] <jussi> dantti: I was aware of that, but which part? :P
[18:15] <dantti> oh :P São Paulo/São Paulo
[18:16] <Darkwing> Hey jussi, did I ever get you my address?
[18:16] <jussi> dantti: ahh ok. Ive probably cause to be in Manaus at some point this summer...
[18:16] <jussi> Darkwing: no
[18:17] <dantti> jussi: nice, it's pretty far from here
[18:17] <jussi> dantti: I realise thats a world away from you, butstill
[18:17] <jussi> btw, I just got this message on update: 
[18:17] <jussi> Updating software catalog...this may take a moment.
[18:17] <jussi> WARNING:softwarecenter.db.update:The file: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kde-telepathy-send-file:kde4__ktp-send-file.desktop' could not be read correctly. The application associated with this file will not be included in the software catalog. Please consider raising a bug report for this issue with the maintainer of that application
[18:18] <dantti> jussi: is that for me?
[18:18] <Darkwing> jussi: sent
[18:19] <jussi> dantti: no idea, are you the kde telepathy person? :D
[18:19] <dantti> no... because you said btw...
[18:19] <jussi> oh, I meant it for the whole channel
[18:20] <Darkwing> hehehe
[18:40] <georgelappies_> hi all, I installed 12.04 today and must say it is one beautifull looking OS :) Thanks so much for all responsible to getting this out to us
[18:40] <georgelappies_> I would like now however if anybody else experienced a crash to a red terminal screen yet?
[18:40] <georgelappies_> it happened to me twice now and if I can assist the developers by uploading some file or testing something so this gets sorted I am most willing
[18:48] <yofel> anyone tried to use postgresql as akonad backend? Setting it up with the system DB works fine, but I can't get it to work at all with a user DB
[18:49]  * yofel wonders what's eating his letters today
[18:49] <yofel> *akonadi
[19:07] <Darkwing> yofel: I've tried but, I have not been able to get it to work.
[19:46] <dantti> yofel: did you changed the postgres permissions?
[19:47] <yofel> dantti: as in? I did set up a user for the system akonadi DB
[19:47] <dantti> yofel: but how is it allowed to log in?
[19:48] <dantti> there is ident same user which means it will use a socket connection but must be the same user of the local db
[19:48] <dantti> when you create a new user and want it to connect via user/pass you don't use ident same user
[19:48] <yofel> dunno, as I said, the user DB failed
[19:49] <dantti> yofel: you need to edit /etc/postgresql/9.1/main/pg_hba.conf
[19:49] <dantti> from my DB point of view this is 99% of connections fails with postgres... :P
[19:50] <yofel> well, I didn't edit anything there and it worked
[19:50] <dantti> right well the default allows 127.0.0.1 connections using md5 so it could work..
[19:58] <Riddell> dantti: generally speaking we're happy to use whatever KDE needs
[19:58] <Riddell> dantti: what's colourd used by?
[19:59] <dantti> Riddell: it can be used by krita, and by users :P (by calibratin their screens)
[20:00] <dantti> gimp also uses it
[20:00] <dantti> cups
[20:00] <dantti> there is an interesting list :P
[20:02] <Riddell> dantti: this it? http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/
[20:03] <Riddell> that's in ubuntu main so no beurocracy
[20:03] <dantti> Riddell: yup it is
[20:03] <dantti> Riddell: I've just poked the maintainer since colord-kde needs a newer version of colord
[20:05] <Riddell> dantti: ah so colord-kde is a new thing that is to be used at some point in the future?
[20:06] <dantti> Riddell: yes, it has a kded module to apply ICC profiles to your X screen, and a KCM to manage the profiles for printers, scanners, webcams and displays
[20:06] <dantti> Riddell: I plan to move it to extragear soon, but distros seem to be willing to pick this sooner...
[20:06] <Riddell> first hit on google is a gnome blog :) http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2012/03/21/the-first-colord-kde-release/
[20:07] <dantti> hehe, yes my blog is not that popular...
[20:08] <Riddell> dantti: is there gain to KDE SC 4.8 in packaging this?
[20:08] <Riddell> or would a PPA be fine for now?
[20:08] <dantti> Riddell: well it's a feature some users might like, but surelly a PPA would do the job...
[20:13] <Riddell> dantti: tricky to update colord now though, we're past beta
[20:13] <dantti> hmm well, then even a PPA would be a problem without a newer colord
[20:14] <Riddell> that can go in the PPA too
[20:14] <Riddell> unless it's a major packaging job
[20:15] <dantti> hmm right, well afaik it doesn't introduce major changes so the packaging should be easy I guess
[20:17]  * Riddell adds to the todo list
[20:17] <Riddell> yofel: you were saying about keeping track of things to package? ^^
[20:17] <dantti> Riddell: cool thanks
[20:20] <yofel> I did, but didn't manage to finish what I wanted after playing around on staging.lp.net for a bit.
[22:31] <schnelle_> yofel: in neon ppa kde is from what kde devs call "master"?
[22:31] <yofel> svn trunk / git master, right
[22:32] <schnelle_> I am reporting a bug so I am adding that it also happens in master :) thanks
[22:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: I see now my mail was a grave mistake ^^