[00:00] <hypershock> Hey guys, so i have everything fixed that I was talking about yesterday. But, now, I can see after watching a video, just 12 minutes in and my screen goes black. I have screen disabling and blanking disabled in power management and my screensaver is set for 60 minutes. also, I completely resetted .kde yesterday by renaming it. where else can i look for this beast of a problem?
[00:05] <jlkkljh> i can only use the acpi workarounds
[00:05] <jlkkljh> boot
[00:05] <jlkkljh> and i cant use that
[00:07] <jlkkljh> it opens a black screen with a mouse and freezes there it will try to load something but nothing happens
[00:08] <jlkkljh> hello thee
[00:08] <jlkkljh> there
[00:08] <jlkkljh> ????????????????
[00:09] <jlkkljh> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO BOOT THIS UP
[00:09] <jlkkljh> PLEASE
[00:10] <hypershock> considering all of us are the same as you and not even paid to be here, please have some patience.
[00:10] <hypershock> please, start from the beginning, what did you do to get to this place in life?
[00:12] <jlkkljh> i ttries to install kubuntu
[00:13] <hypershock> which version did you try and on what type of hardware did you try it?
[00:15] <jlkkljh> but freezes at [<c1515156>] [<c1515004>] [<c12d753b>] [<c1345c1d>]
[00:15] <jlkkljh> next prt
[00:15] <jlkkljh> part*
[00:15] <hypershock> please answer the questions: Which version of Kubuntu did you try and what type of hardware did you try to install it on?
[00:16] <jlkkljh> the bottom of the screen says
[00:16] <jlkkljh> ::
[00:17] <jlkkljh> [<c1533b7e>] kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10
[00:18] <jlkkljh> and that is where it froze at the continuing installation screen
[00:19] <jlkkljh> that is my problem
[00:19] <jlkkljh> and i cant resolve it
[00:20] <hypershock> argh, i'm gonna ignore if that is fine. try googling that if you are not gonna answer the questions so we can begin to help you. In general one of two things happened. You either installed a highly experimental distribution or your hardware is extremely old. if you want more help you have to answer the questions.
[00:20] <hypershock> BluesKaj: btw, I just found that I had xscreensaver running and it is set to 10 minutes. that baby is out of here now!
[00:21] <jlkkljh> 11.10 i think the latest i just todat installed
[00:21] <jlkkljh> gateway
[00:21] <hypershock> jlkkljh: now give the model of your gateway so we can double check the specs.
[00:21] <hypershock> jlkkljh: also, is this a laptop or desk/tower? if the latter do you have a custom video card installed.
[00:21] <jlkkljh> 510 s p
[00:22] <jlkkljh> tower
[00:22] <jlkkljh> how do you make it appear in red
[00:22] <hypershock> ok, right off hand, do you know what type of graphics card, and cpu you have and how much memory too.
[00:22] <jlkkljh> no
[00:22] <hypershock> by putting your nick in it.
[00:22] <jlkkljh> 1 gb ram
[00:23] <jlkkljh> freshly installed 1 week ago
[00:23] <jlkkljh> cpu / intel core??????? do you mean
[00:24] <hypershock> jlkkljh: is this your computer http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1596200,00.asp?tab=Specs ?
[00:24] <jlkkljh> ht pentium 4
[00:24] <jlkkljh> and yes
[00:26] <hypershock> ok, now we have a base line to operate from. Tell me what prompted you to install Kubuntu? Did you have linux on this machine before?
[00:26] <jlkkljh> no
[00:26] <hypershock> jlkkljh: there were 2 questions there, I need 2 answers. :)
[00:27] <jlkkljh> i wanted a smaller system to play minecraft on
[00:27] <jlkkljh> than xp
[00:28] <jlkkljh>  
[00:28] <jlkkljh> ok it works
[00:28] <jlkkljh> the chat i meant
[00:28] <hypershock> heh, my 1.6ghz dual core pentium with 4gb of ddr2 fails to run minecraft in linux, very clunky at best.
[00:29] <jlkkljh> ok i wonder why
[00:29] <hypershock> jlkkljh: goto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1862288 see if that helps you out there. Quite a few people discussing your problem in there. If that thread fails to help you out, I strongly suggest you use 11.04 or 10.04
[00:30] <jlkkljh> i had just downloaded wubi
[00:30] <hypershock> jlkkljh: because minecraft practically demands an nvidia or ati card. while it is a cubish world it still demands advanced graphics manipulations.
[00:30] <jlkkljh> today
[00:30] <jlkkljh> and installed today
[00:32] <hypershock> so you still have your windows system eh? here is what I would have done. download the livecd, and boot from that, if the livecd works, then do a boot & nuke. ie, wipe the hard drive (after backing up all docs, pics, whatevers) and complete fresh install the linux from the livecd.
[00:32] <jlkkljh> i cant use live cd
[00:32] <jlkkljh>     /live usb
[00:33] <hypershock> your bios doesnt' allow booting from usb/cdrom?
[00:33] <jlkkljh> it will but intel boot agentr dosent pickup a iso file
[00:34] <jlkkljh>                                                                        agent*
[00:34] <hypershock> you know that makes no sense. if you make burn and iso file to a cd, you'll have a bootable cd, just like a windows install cd. The reboot your computer, put in the cd quickly, and watch it boot into linux.
[00:35] <jlkkljh> it wont burn a cd though
[00:35] <jlkkljh> and i dont have a cd
[00:36] <hypershock> ok
[00:36] <hypershock> so wubi it was.
[00:36] <hypershock> are you reading that thread?
[00:36] <jlkkljh> yes
[00:36] <jlkkljh> somewhat
[00:37] <hypershock> are you on the same comp that you installed kubuntu on?
[00:37] <jlkkljh> no
[00:37] <jlkkljh> im on a windows 7 right beside it
[00:39] <hypershock> ah, I just remembered an idea that works when you can't boot on a comp from cd or usb. Do this, make a bootable live cd of linux you are interested in on your windows 7 machine. Then turn off your machines. take out the windows 7 hdd, install the gateway hard drive in place, boot with the cd, install the linux. when complete, turn off machine, take out hard drive and put back in gateway. put win 7 hard drive back. boot up both and enjoy.
[00:40] <jlkkljh> im not wanting to install on win7
[00:40] <jlkkljh> tho
[00:41] <hypershock> ok, I realize you are "somewhat" reading that thread, please don't "somewhat" read what I just suggested. :)
[00:41] <jlkkljh> and this hdd/hd has wires connecting to it
[00:41] <jlkkljh> ok
[00:42] <jlkkljh> whats oneiric
[00:42] <jlkkljh> ???????
[00:42] <jlkkljh> im a noob
[00:42] <hypershock> what i said was after you made the live cd on the win 7 machine. turn off BOTH machines. take out win 7 hdd. take out gateway hdd. put gateway hdd in win 7 machine. install linux on gateway hdd. finish. remove gateway hdd. put gateway hdd back in gateway. put win 7 hdd back in win 7 machine. ta da. you still have win 7.
[00:42] <hypershock> oneiric is 11.10
[00:43] <jlkkljh> its a all in 1 win 7
[00:43] <hypershock> your operating system lives on your hard drive (hdd), not in anything else on your computer.
[00:43] <hypershock> oh, that sucks. touchscreen tho i bet.
[00:44] <jlkkljh> no
[00:44] <jlkkljh> its a hippie
[00:44] <hypershock> yeah hp
[00:44] <jlkkljh> yep
[00:44] <hypershock> call it "ech pea"
[00:44] <jlkkljh> my dad says screw you
[00:45] <jlkkljh> lol
[00:45] <jlkkljh> im sorry for being impatient
[00:45] <jlkkljh> ok
[00:45] <hypershock> hay i try to help and this is how you guys act. your dad can jump in a lake
[00:45] <jlkkljh> *laughing histerically
[00:45] <hypershock> like i said no one is paid here we are all like you, you want to go back to screaming for help. lucky i helped you at all.
[00:46] <jlkkljh> im with you not him
[00:46] <jlkkljh> i dont like my dad that much
[00:46] <hypershock> well, i've done all i know. maybe someone else will chime in
[00:47] <jlkkljh> can anyone else help and thanks hyper shock
[00:48] <jlkkljh> win 7 wont burn either
[00:49] <jlkkljh> ya know
[00:49] <hypershock> you do know that you have match burn media to the burner type of the drive.
[00:50] <jlkkljh> oh
[00:50] <jlkkljh> that helps
[00:50] <jlkkljh> cdrewritable
[00:51] <hypershock> like if the drive is rated dvd-r as a burner, then you can buy dvd-r disc and burn them in it. the "-" "+" and "- +" are also rating types not conjuctives. the best drives are dvd/bluray "+-" rw. as the burn and read everything.
[00:51] <jlkkljh> should i go to a different server
[00:52] <hypershock> cd rewritable is usually cd-rw. naw, if its kubuntu, perhaps when tv shows are over ppl will start talking again
[00:53] <jlkkljh> ok umm could a server work on that machine
[00:54] <hypershock> your problem isn't the gui
[00:54] <hypershock> try installing a lesser version of ubuntu, 10.04 LTS. You'll probably find that will work better.
[00:54] <jlkkljh> ok
[00:55] <jlkkljh> i will and ill get back to you
[00:55] <hypershock> ok cool
[00:55] <jlkkljh> ill stay on this channel
[01:39] <nilsonmorales> spanish channel for kubuntu?
[02:21] <jlkkljh> hypershock??????????
[02:25] <jlkkljh> is any one here a mod that i can start a pvt chat with
[02:29] <jlkkljh> anybody
[02:30] <Oigres> Como soy nuevo en el chat y en le tema, me gustaría leer otars opiniones soobre el tema...
[02:30] <pvivek_> i am upgrading Precise, i am running do-release-upgrade -d in tty. Everything was working fine, now generating grub.cfg is stuck in an infinite loop, in the sense, its finding my distros and again generating grub.cfg again and again. What to do to stop it? ctrl+c would kill the whole process right ?
[07:22] <sophie_> hello tout le monde
[08:10] <corverse> hello..just want to ask if there's a way to share my internet connection to other devices?
[08:15] <corverse> hello..just want to ask if there's a way to share my internet connection to other devices?
[08:19] <lordievader> good morning'
[08:45] <elvenfighter> Hey, has anyone had issues with x86_64 Opera browser on kubuntu ?
[08:46] <elvenfighter> e.g. it can't load kubuntu.org
[08:46] <lordievader> And it does load in another browser?
[08:48] <elvenfighter> Loads succesfully in every other, and in x86 Opera
[08:50] <lordievader> So the problem is probably in the 64bit version of Opera, I don't have it myself so I can't look at settings... do you have the default setup?
[08:50] <lordievader> Of the browser I mean.
[08:51] <elvenfighter> I think it's ubuntu problem, because everything's fine on x86_64 suse
[08:52] <elvenfighter> yes, I have a default setup
[08:52] <lordievader> Hmm, did you install it through the repos?
[08:53] <elvenfighter> I've installed it from official site
[08:53] <elvenfighter> http://www.opera.com/download/
[08:55] <lordievader> I see, I'm not sure if i can help you any further, you could try the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ Perhaps someone there can help you out.
[08:56] <elvenfighter> kthanks, I've only started looking the source of problem
[09:41] <pegasus_> espanol?
[09:43] <lordievader> English is more common here...
[09:50] <pegasus_> ok
[09:50] <pegasus_> hello lordievader
[09:50] <lordievader> pegasus_: good morning
[09:51] <pegasus_> good morning
[10:34] <Teth> hello :)
[10:34] <lordievader> Teth: hi
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm trying to install theme for login screen, opened login screen control module , there is a option to get new themes , installed them but the dont show up in the theme screen, wonder where they were downloaded too
[11:58] <lordievader> I have the same problem here
[11:58] <lordievader> But I turned on the automatic login, so I don't see it anymore...
[11:58] <BluesKaj> yeah , themes are hit and miss for some reason some will install and others that appear so don't
[11:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> says there installed but cant find them
[12:00] <lordievader> It seems that the themes are kept here:  /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes
[12:00] <lordievader> A guide to install kdm themes: http://dptofblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/howto-install-kdm-themes-in-kubuntu.html
[12:01] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya thats the default . not the new downloaded ones
[12:02] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok i do a search
[12:03] <lordievader> Guide work, just tested it, they show up. Haven't logged out yet though...
[12:03] <BluesKaj> with autologin you won't see the login screen , do you mean the splash screen , mydogsnameisrudy
[12:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> im not doing autologin
[12:03] <lordievader> BluesKaj: that was me...
[12:03] <lordievader> :P
[12:04] <BluesKaj> oh sorry guys'
[12:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya i cant find the dir of the downloaded themes
[12:05] <lordievader> brb, gonna check to see if the theme actually works
[12:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> strange
[12:05] <lordievader> download them from here: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=41
[12:07] <lordievader> I've confirmed it, installing the theme as instructed in the guide work. The option of getting new themes through System Settings does not, perhaps a dev can take a look at it?
[12:08] <mydogsnameisrudy> just cant find the themes after you download  this will work form the link above
[12:09] <lordievader> mydogsnameisrudy: you mean you cant find them after you downloaded them from kde-look.org?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy,  themes should be listed in the themes tab in login screen in sys settings
[12:09] <mydogsnameisrudy> i got it
[12:12] <BluesKaj> heh, now the system settings fonts have changed back to defaults and any changes I make aren't holding
[12:13] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Didn't someone else got that same problem yesterday?
[12:13] <lordievader> brb, gotta check a theme.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> fonts seem to be holding now
[12:16] <mydogsnameisrudy> you using 12.04
[12:17] <BluesKaj> yeah
[12:17] <JMichaelX> anyone know what the deal is with dl.google.com so often being somewhere between pathetically slow and dead?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy,  whwere did you find he themes , ~/.kde dir?
[12:19] <lordievader> JMichaelX: It is slower than another Google page but it ain't dead or horribly slow. I get referred to https://www.google.com/chrome btw...
[12:19] <BluesKaj> I tested one theme install , it's not listed in the theme tab in the login
[12:19] <mydogsnameisrudy> i downloaded from kde eyecandy and put them in the download dir , not found the other ones yet
[12:20] <JMichaelX> lordievader: it is horribly slow. that isn't even open for debate, as far as i'm concerned, but tyvm for the link.
[12:20] <lordievader> JMichaelX: no problem
[12:23] <JMichaelX> lordievader: i know this does not relate directly to kubuntu, but what i am referring to is the repository @ dl.google.com . the link you gave me, does it have anything to do with pointing to an alternate mirror of some kind?
[12:24] <lordievader> JMichaelX: Ah sorry, I didn't know you where asking for a repos, I just typed it in a browser and got redirected to there, so it probably has nothing to do with any repos.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX,  don't fret , we're all encountering the samer problem ...your update is stalled ?
[12:25] <JMichaelX> ok. i had just assumed everyone would know what i was referring to, which of course is not necessarily the case
[12:26] <lordievader> Nope, sorry
[12:26] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i am not fretting so much as annoyed, as this has been a recurring issue with google for some time
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta reboot ...this sys settings issue needs a resart , I think
[12:27] <JMichaelX> lordievader: ty for responding, either way. you are probably just a bit smarter, and are using chromium instead of chrome
[12:27] <lordievader> JMichaelX: No problem, and yes I do use chromium.
[12:29] <lordievader> Why have I never known about the Google Repos...? I see here a post from 2008 talking about it XD
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ok, it seems
[13:02] <alsi1974> stop
[14:30] <helios333> #python
[15:11] <peterklein> hi
[15:13] <BluesKaj> hi
[15:35] <georgelappies> just upgraded to 12.04. Wow what a beautifull OS! Thanks guys :)
[15:42] <georgelappies> was the thickness of the default font changed in 12.04? cause it looks much better?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> georgelappies,  yes , just recently , like today ..i noticed a difference in my fav font as well
[16:08] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:08] <georgelappies> it looks very nice, anyone not using kubuntu is losing out big time :D but yeah saying that here is a bit like preaching to choir lol
[16:41] <sky100> i need some help on kubuntu
[16:42] <sky100> 11.04
[16:42] <sky100> 11.10*
[16:43] <BluesKaj> sky100,  just ask your question
[16:43] <sky100> ok thnx
[16:44] <sky100> i was changing desktop wallpaper but after reboot its switching back to previous one
[16:44] <sky100> BluesKaj,
[16:46] <BluesKaj> sky100,  are you imorting the wallpapers into Desktop Settings then choosing the one you want and clicking on apply and ok ?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> importing
[16:47] <sky100> yea
[16:47] <sky100> i was saving desktop wallpaper which is alreday in my personal folder
[16:48] <sky100> not derived from linux
[16:49] <BluesKaj> yes , but make sure you click on the folder option to import any images to the desktop settings
[16:49] <BluesKaj> navigate to your personal folder from desktop settings , in other words
[16:52] <sky100> yep i did it
[16:52] <sky100> i updated few time back
[16:52] <sky100> gonna check that out again
[16:52] <sky100> brb
[17:41] <sky100> my desktop wallpaper is just vanishing after reboot ..
[17:42] <sky100> can any one suggest pls
[17:42] <lordievader> sky100: is the wallpaper on a partition that is being mounted before you login? (fstab)
[17:43] <sky100> im telling u excatly what i did
[17:44] <sky100> right click on desktop setting > browsed to the folder where my preferred image is resting
[17:45] <sky100> clicked on it> its right in the wallpaper changer folder
[17:45] <sky100> hit > APPLY > OK
[17:45] <sky100> its DONE
[17:45] <lordievader> sky100: yes but where is the image located?
[17:45] <sky100> but after reboot its going back to previous wallpaper
[17:45] <lordievader> ah ok, nvm
[17:47] <lordievader> wait maybe it is... I'm not sure. It could be that the system cannot find the wallpaper on boot because the drive isn't mounted yet, and falls back to default. So where is the image located?
[17:48] <sky100> but earlier it was doing good ..
[17:48] <sky100> i was just able to switch over to any wallpaper i wished for
[17:48] <lordievader> Did you update anything?
[17:48] <sky100> yes
[17:48] <lordievader> What did you update?
[17:49] <sky100> i386 image..some stuff like that
[17:50] <sky100> its showing at the notification area " UPDATES AVAILABLE FOR YOUR SYSTEM ' ... hence I ipdated
[17:50] <sky100> updated *
[17:51] <lordievader> you didn't take a look at what was being updated?
[17:51] <sky100> hmmm
[17:51] <sky100> it some good no of updates
[17:52] <lordievader> i see
[17:52] <sky100> but cant remember the name of the updates
[17:52] <sky100> it was taking good time to be updated
[17:53] <lordievader> are you using activities?
[17:53] <sky100> nah
[17:53] <sky100> i simply wanted to change the wallpapers
[17:54] <sky100> just cant figure out why its not saving ...
[17:54] <lordievader> I noticed when i updated to backports that my wallpaper had changed to the default as well. Switching activities fixed it, got me my right wallpaper.
[17:54] <sky100> just rebooting & its all GONE
[17:54] <sky100> im quite new to LINUX
[17:55] <lordievader> not a good start... :(
[17:55] <sky100> so dunno how to Switch activities
[17:55] <sky100> i was just able to do so a few days back
[17:55] <lordievader> In the top right of your screen there is a yellow, euhh how to call that thing?, thingie...
[17:55] <lordievader> Click that thing, then click activities
[17:55] <sky100> top right !
[17:56] <lordievader> And see if switching helps.
[17:56] <sky100> i right clicked & see Activity
[17:56] <sky100> on desktop
[17:56] <sky100> right click on desktop
[17:57] <lordievader> A left click on the thing in the upper right corner will do.
[18:09] <sky100> sorry was afk....
[18:10] <sky100> but cant figure out the stuff
[18:10] <sky100> :(
[18:10] <sky100> likely updates screwed up
[18:11] <lordievader> The activities thing didn't change anything?
[18:12] <sky100> Im not seeing activity at the top right corner
[18:12] <sky100> i did right click> desktop setting > activity
[18:12] <sky100> nahh
[18:12] <sky100> sorry
[18:13] <sky100> right click > activity
[18:13] <lordievader> Hold
[18:13] <lordievader> on *
[18:13] <sky100> ok
[18:13] <lordievader> Go back to the desktop
[18:13] <sky100> u mean right click > dwesktop setting ?
[18:13] <lordievader> Do you see that yellow cashew thing in the upper right corner?
[18:13] <sky100> desk*
[18:14] <sky100> yes
[18:14] <lordievader> (left) click that
[18:14] <sky100> ok
[18:14] <lordievader> you should get a menu, with activities as the second option.
[18:14] <lordievader> click that
[18:15] <BluesKaj> don't think activities has much to do with wallpaper settings , since I don't use activities and my wallpaper is holding ok
[18:15] <BluesKaj> aand it's not from defaults
[18:15] <lordievader> you can set a different wallpaper per activity, so it could be...
[18:15] <sky100> i click on that
[18:15] <sky100> but nothing happens
[18:16] <lordievader> hmm...
[18:16] <lordievader> BluesKaj: do you know what could be the problem?
[18:17] <sky100> weird ....
[18:17] <sky100> its painful that the stuff which was doing all good.. is just stumbled upon
[18:19] <sky100> always switching back to default wallpaper
[18:19] <sky100> at every reboot
[18:24] <sky100> BRB
[18:24] <sky100> changed the wallpaper again ..gonna reboot
[18:24] <sky100> let me see... lordievader
[18:31] <georgelappies> what is the kubuntu developers channel name again>
[18:31] <lordievader> brb, need to reboot
[18:32] <BluesKaj> georgelappies,  #kubuntu-devel
[18:32] <designbybeck> Hello BluesKaj
[18:33] <BluesKaj> hi designbybeck
[18:33] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  do you or anyone else know the Grub Config editor for KDE/Kubunut
[18:33] <designbybeck> i thought it was kde-grub-config
[18:33] <designbybeck> but when I try to install that it can't find it.... I've used it on some other machines but I can't seem to find the site i found the install instructions from
[18:34] <designbybeck> It was a nice editor and installed itself in the System Settings under Startup/Shutdown
[18:35] <BluesKaj> yes designbybeck I have it installed as well ...let me look around
[18:36] <designbybeck> I found it BluesKaj kde-config-grub2
[18:36] <designbybeck> :)
[18:37] <georgelappies_> soz, had to connect to freenode and not kubuntu irc. sorted now
[18:38] <BluesKaj> kde-config-grub2 , yup ,that's it , in the repos
[18:40] <lordievader> back
[18:43] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,  did kde-config-grub2 install ok ?
[18:43] <designbybeck> yes
[18:43] <BluesKaj> good
[18:43] <designbybeck> i just coudln't remember what it was named
[18:49] <sky100> i was removing some pics from wallpaper changers folder ... then close it & as I reopen it the pics are just there
[18:49] <sky100> dont get removed
[18:49] <sky100> nay idea pls....
[18:49] <sky100> any*
[18:50] <lordievader> sky100, what wallpaper changers folder are you talking about?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> sky100 , is your Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell still populated with your own imported images after the reboot , or is it just default images?
[18:52] <sky100> just populated with 2 pics
[18:52] <lordievader> sky100, your own or the default ones?
[18:52] <sky100> as i want to remove them .. it getting removed ..but as I open plasma desktop ..its right there
[18:53] <sky100> my own & defaults as well
[18:53] <BluesKaj> so it's not saving the pics imported from your personal file ?
[18:53] <sky100> but i cant remove the pics i imported
[18:53] <sky100> yes
[18:53] <sky100> i pics i saved earlier ..just 2 of them are sticky
[18:53] <sky100> the*
[18:54] <sky100> showing as removed ..but not getting removed  truly
[18:54] <sky100> as i got back to Plasma Desktop I see them again & again ..
[18:55] <BluesKaj> why are you removing them ?
[18:55] <sky100> & even if i import pics .... its being imported & being applied & done ok..but at reboot they are gone
[18:56] <sky100> i want to delete them & get some new pics
[18:56] <sky100> & newly imported pics are just not being saved like those 2 sticky pics ..
[18:57] <sky100> thats the whole stuff setting me crazy ...
[18:57] <sky100> ;|
[18:57] <sky100> i should have the ability to remove or get pics at my will
[18:58] <BluesKaj> sky100,  ok open system settings>startup&shutdown>session management , choose the "restore previous session " option
[18:58] <sky100> can u pls show me where do I find system setting
[18:59] <BluesKaj> sky100,  Kmenu>computer
[18:59] <sky100> ok
[18:59] <sky100> got it
[19:00] <sky100> yes
[19:00] <BluesKaj> make sure you 've chosen the new wallpaper before rebooting to see if it sticks
[19:00] <sky100> start up /shut down
[19:01] <sky100> restore manually saved option ?
[19:01] <sky100> check the radio button ?
[19:01] <BluesKaj> session management , choose the "restore previous session " option
[19:01] <sky100> restore previous session is checked
[19:03] <sky100> yes i haved selected that restore previous session
[19:03] <sky100> it was already selected ...anyway..
[19:03] <sky100> now....!
[19:03] <BluesKaj> oh ..bummer
[19:03] <sky100> what
[19:04] <sky100> as it was selected ....
[19:04] <sky100> thats   why...!!
[19:04] <BluesKaj> then saving the wallpaper choice isn't working for some reason
[19:04] <sky100> hmmm
[19:04] <sky100> ALL SCREWED
[19:04] <sky100> :(
[19:05] <lordievader> Perhaps a reset of KDE?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> yeah , but then he has to reset all of his other settings
[19:05] <sky100> just to disable the the updates
[19:06] <lordievader> Yea, its a worst case solution...
[19:06] <BluesKaj> renaming is athe dirty way out
[19:06] <sky100> those updates were the culprits ..i think
[19:06] <lordievader> sky100, have you done a lot of customizing?
[19:06] <sky100> nah
[19:06] <lordievader> Are you willing to sacrifice it?
[19:07] <lordievader> The customization that you have done, I mean.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> still may not work
[19:07]  * sky100 is in deep confusion 
[19:07] <lordievader> That is, most unfortunatly, true.
[19:08] <sky100> Xchat customization might not work ?
[19:08] <sky100> im using that
[19:08] <BluesKaj> sky100,  ok open desktop settings ..let's walk thru this .
[19:08] <sky100> ok
[19:08] <sky100> ok
[19:08] <sky100> opened
[19:08] <BluesKaj> layout =desktop?
[19:08] <sky100> yes
[19:09] <BluesKaj> Wallpaper = image
[19:09] <sky100> YES
[19:10] <BluesKaj> when you import wallpaper images are you clicking on open in the source file . once you've chosen the image?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> or dragging them
[19:11] <sky100> clicking on..
[19:11] <BluesKaj> clicking on open creates a link to the source...dragging may not be sticky
[19:12] <sky100> no dragging
[19:12] <BluesKaj> click ok to finish
[19:13] <sky100> u mean i shd import a new image ?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> yes , and try it as wall paper to see if it sticks
[19:13] <sky100> ok
[19:14] <sky100> but im sure will not stick
[19:14] <sky100> amyway
[19:14] <sky100> any*
[19:14] <sky100> gonna import a new pics
[19:14] <BluesKaj> you did this before and it didn't work obviously
[19:15] <sky100> pics im imporing is in a folder in a partition
[19:15] <BluesKaj> have you updated/upgraded today
[19:15] <sky100> i did it successfully just 2 days earlier
[19:15] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:16] <sky100> YES UPDATED TODAY SOME 3 HRS BACK
[19:16] <BluesKaj> I get the feeling some update didn't install correctly
[19:16] <sky100> oh ic
[19:16] <sky100> shall I retry updatinng
[19:16] <sky100> dating*
[19:16] <lordievader> Did you update through muon?
[19:17] <lordievader> Muon software center/Muon package manager?
[19:17] <sky100> i had system notification
[19:17] <BluesKaj> sky100,  open a terminal and run,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:17] <sky100> ok
[19:18] <lordievader> terminal = konsole, btw
[19:18] <sky100> yes
[19:18] <BluesKaj> sky100,  if there are errors then run , sudp apt-get -f install
[19:18] <BluesKaj> sudo
[19:19] <sky100> im just copy , pasting the commands u have typed in here
[19:19] <sky100> is that ok ?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> the last one should be sudo instead of sudp
[19:20] <BluesKaj> yes , that's ok ..it's the easiest
[19:20] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get -f install
[19:21] <sky100> nah ur 1st command was not doing anything
[19:21] <sky100> let me see the next
[19:21] <BluesKaj> sky100,  that's good it stll does it's job ..no errors were indicated
[19:22] <sky100> sudo apt-get -f install
[19:22] <sky100> [sudo] password for ppp:
[19:22] <sky100> Reading package lists... Done
[19:22] <sky100> Building dependency tree
[19:22] <sky100> Reading state information... Done
[19:22] <sky100> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[19:22] <FloodBotK1> sky100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <lordievader> brb, gotta switch OS
[19:24] <sky100> sorry
[19:24] <sky100> do u see my post ?
[19:24] <sky100> hello
[19:25] <sky100> hello BluesKaj
[19:25] <sky100> do u see me
[19:25] <BluesKaj> hit enter
[19:26] <sky100> i was just showing the result in terminal
[19:26] <BluesKaj> yes that's normal
[19:26] <sky100> ok
[19:26] <sky100> hit enter
[19:26] <sky100> now?
[19:26] <sky100> nothing happens
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ok , that's fine
[19:27] <sky100> ok
[19:27] <BluesKaj> now reboot to see if your wallpaper has glue :)
[19:27] <sky100> wb lordievader
[19:27] <sky100> ok
[19:27] <lordievader> thx
[19:28] <sky100> reboot & revert to
[19:28] <lordievader> did you guys found an error?
[19:30] <sky100> GONE ..:)
[19:30] <sky100> BluesKaj,
[19:30] <BluesKaj> none howed , but that could be a good thing , if some dependencies were in limbo then dpkg will have instlled or rejected the associated apps , but may not indicate '
[19:31] <BluesKaj> showed
[19:32] <BluesKaj> sky100,  ?
[19:32] <lordievader> sky100: did you happen to have updated te linux-header and linux-image packages?
[19:32] <sky100> yes
[19:32] <sky100> now i remember
[19:32] <sky100> i updated them
[19:32] <sky100> is that a BUMMER ?
[19:33] <sky100> i was not able to rem the packages i updated
[19:33] <lordievader> you could try to boot into a previous kernel, in grub you have under the default something like other versions, try booting in that one
[19:33] <lordievader> this kind of makes me scared to update those packages...
[19:34] <lordievader> just got the notification of those updates...
[19:34] <BluesKaj> not if they installed properly , run,  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , sky100
[19:34] <sky100> oh ok
[19:34] <sky100> ok
[19:34] <sky100> ran
[19:35] <sky100> i cant show the result
[19:35] <sky100> that will  be flooding
[19:35] <BluesKaj> pastebin it
[19:35] <BluesKaj> !paste
[19:37] <sky100> ran the command
[19:37] <sky100> 0 upgared , o newly installed , o to remove , o not upgraded
[19:37] <sky100> thats the bottom line
[19:37] <sky100> now...
[19:38] <sky100> its good ?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> what's gone , btw ?
[19:38] <sky100> the sticky pics in the plasma desktop folder
[19:38] <sky100> the 2 pics i spoke abt
[19:39] <BluesKaj> what about them , did the others stick ?
[19:40] <sky100> others are ok ...
[19:40] <lordievader> just ran the update myself, through a terminal, gonna check if i get the same problem
[19:40] <sky100> those are from LINUX
[19:40] <sky100> im not worried abt them
[19:40] <BluesKaj> those , meaning ?
[19:40] <sky100> just want to be able to run the wallpaper changes successfully
[19:41] <sky100> the installed wallpapers
[19:41] <BluesKaj> did you add any from your pics folder
[19:41] <sky100> yes
[19:41] <sky100> i was speaking abt them
[19:41] <BluesKaj> that's what I was asking about
[19:42] <sky100> i imported a pic from my folder , applied it
[19:42] <sky100> & its right on my desktop
[19:42] <sky100> ...
[19:42] <sky100> dunno what will happen when i reboot
[19:42] <sky100> might just go vanished
[19:42] <BluesKaj> is it saved in the desktop settings
[19:43] <BluesKaj> is it still there
[19:44] <lordievader> update succeeded, i have no problems with my wallpaper
[19:46] <BluesKaj> I'm on 12.04 and there seem to be fewer problems than 11.10 :)
[19:46] <mydogsnameisrudy> oh thats not far i want 12.04
[19:46] <mydogsnameisrudy> ;)
[19:46] <lordievader> Somewhere that is very good, and somewhere that is very wierd...
[19:46] <mydogsnameisrudy> but im not doing a reload now
[19:48] <lordievader> I'll just wait to when it is officially released
[19:48] <mydogsnameisrudy> well im running tripleboot and im not into reloading
[19:49] <BluesKaj> triple boot ...BSD too ?
[19:50] <mydogsnameisrudy> winxp  linuxmint12 and kubuntu
[19:50] <lordievader> mydogsnameisrudy: the other day I thought about how cool it would be to be running 2 os'es on the same machine on the same time, guess it will never happen though...
[19:50] <lordievader> I have a feeling you don't use XP much...
[19:51] <mydogsnameisrudy> i have kubuntu and virtual xp on a dual monitor desktop works  well
[19:53] <savio> anyone tell me what is DRI accelearation on opeGL driver?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> i used to dual boot windows 7 and kubuntu on this pc , but windows was seldom used , so I dumped it
[19:53] <savio> BluesKaj:
[19:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> ya dont use it much
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Direct Rendering
[19:54] <savio> means?
[19:56] <lordievader> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Infrastructure_(DRI)
[19:56] <heinkel_111> hello, does anyone know about the moonlight plugin, does it work for kubuntu?>
[19:57] <lordievader> Moonlight, as in the linux version of Silverlight?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DRM or this
[19:57] <maco> heinkel_111: yes it does, but its utility is limited because it does not have DRM support like Silverlight, so it cant work for Netflix for example
[19:57] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:57] <heinkel_111> lordievader: yes
[19:57] <maco> erm, DRM in the case I'm talking about means Digital Restrictions Management
[19:57] <maco> or Digital Rights Management
[19:57] <maco> wait i forget which one's the real name
[19:57] <maco> anyway
[19:57] <lordievader> Digital Rights Management
[19:58] <maco> the anti-piracy-annoy-the-crap-out-of-users-stuff is not supported in Moonlight
[19:58] <heinkel_111> does that mean it does not work with the tv-via-web players?
[19:58] <lordievader> Depends
[19:58] <maco> might depend on the player
[19:58] <lordievader> If they do not use DRM then you should be able to watch it
[19:58] <BluesKaj> nope DRM can be Direct Rendering Manager as well
[19:58] <maco> the only thing ive used moonlight for was to vote in the Webbys, because their poll software was moonlight for some silly reason
[19:58] <heinkel_111> but there is not a moonlight player in apt repositories for kubuntu?
[19:59] <lordievader> What browser are you using?
[19:59] <maco> BluesKaj: in the case of moonlight, we're talking about the digital rights one. it just happened to come up while you were talking graphics
[19:59] <heinkel_111> apt-cache shows no moonlight
[19:59] <BluesKaj> moonlight doesn't really work in kubuntu despite what some ppl are saying on the internet
[19:59] <heinkel_111> lordievader: rekonq, konqueror or firefox
[20:00] <maco> BluesKaj: when did it stop?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> maco,  you got it working ?
[20:00] <lordievader> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/download.aspx
[20:00] <maco> moonlight-plugin-mozilla is the package
[20:01] <maco> BluesKaj: yes, as i said i used it to vote in the Webbys
[20:01] <lordievader> I read here that Moonlight supports Ubuntu 9.10
[20:01] <maco> 11.04 has it in the repos
[20:01] <BluesKaj> what about chromium?
[20:01] <lordievader> Disregard my link...
[20:01] <maco> moonlight-plugin-chromium
[20:01] <maco> but hmm it does seem to have been removed after natty
[20:02] <BluesKaj> chromium looks in /usr/lib/mozilla for plugins
[20:02] <heinkel_111> ...so the sun has failed and the moon is dead?
[20:02] <heinkel_111> no more moonlight, I mean :)
[20:03]  * heinkel_111 is getting closer to buying a windows funputer
[20:03] <BluesKaj> well , so much for netflix
[20:03] <maco> i'm still running natty on most systems :P
[20:03] <maco> BluesKaj: oh i never said it worked on netflix. because like i said, DRM. just that moonlight does technically work.
[20:04] <maco> i mean, it installed, it ran
[20:04] <maco> or rather, DID work...
[20:04]  * maco wishes launchpad made it clearer why a package was removed
[20:04] <BluesKaj> wemaco , it was supposed to support netflix iirc
[20:04] <BluesKaj> maco, ..sry
[20:05] <maco> when did they ever claim that?
[20:05] <maco> i never saw a claim that moonlight supported DRM
[20:05] <heinkel_111> I just downloaded the plugin
[20:06] <heinkel_111> should i stick it in /usr/lib/mozilla ?
[20:06] <BluesKaj>  I recall reading about it last yr when netflix was rumoured to be setup to run on a moonlight chromium plugin
[20:07] <heinkel_111> anyway I am not that interested in netflix it is an american outfit isnt it?
[20:07] <heinkel_111> In scandinavia we have other sources of goodness which would be nice to tap into for entertainment
[20:07] <BluesKaj>  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, heinkel_111
[20:08] <heinkel_111> ie. viaplay, tv2sumo, canalplus, camoyo and stuff like that
[20:09] <heinkel_111> we watch different sports like football that you call "soccer" and stuff
[20:09] <BluesKaj> hen yeah , I tried it here in Canada when they made the big anouncement at netflix , acting as if they were doing the country a big favour ...the availble movies were garbage
[20:10] <heinkel_111> I was getting to "and we watch quality movies too" :D
[20:10] <heinkel_111> but shouldnt be spamming this channel with such discussions :)\
[20:11] <BluesKaj> the didn't have the rights to show anything worthwhile , altho reports lately say the inventory is betting better
[20:12] <BluesKaj> getting better
[20:12] <BluesKaj> #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:23] <heinkel_111> what is an xpi installer by the way?
[20:23] <heinkel_111> I just realised the moonlight came with a lot of files that probably should be in different locations
[20:24] <heinkel_111> there are even quite a few .dll files, thought that was windows stuff
[20:26] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111,  ok , then probly need to run in wine ...not sure , never tried moonlight
[20:27] <copacetic> I used this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html    to try to install oracle-java on 12.04, it worked on my laptop but on my desktop im getting the following result http://pastebin.com/fScckWAW   is anyone having similar problems?
[21:08] <copacetic> If anyone has problems with java and 12.04 it looks like the package i was using was having trouble downloading from oracle, I was able to hack it and make it work though
[22:51] <ElGoorf> ugh
[22:51] <ElGoorf> how do i fix this? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V6tMIzI1iCQ/T3JDbTVsoFI/AAAAAAAAC7I/5hLKQywJDko/s1057/IMAG0116.jpg