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uBUXUBugood morning purveyors of goodwill07:16
* benonsoftware waves to uBUXUBu 07:18
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sheenzzhey14:20
AngelForgetlubuntu 12.04 is very fast compliment14:27
MrChrisDruifThanks AngelForget14:36
AngelForgetMrChrisDruif,  but how come there are no updates...?14:39
MrChrisDruifI don't know, when did you install and when was the last update you've got?14:40
AngelForgetMrChrisDruif, I just installed the 12.04 beta 2 but does not give me updates14:44
MrChrisDruifYou've just installed the Beta2 (candidate) ISO?14:45
AngelForgetyes14:45
MrChrisDruifphillw; ^ ?14:45
MrChrisDruifI don't know if there are new updates for that one yet, but phillw might know14:45
AngelForgetThanks MrChrisDruif14:47
MrChrisDruifOtherwise gilir (head of dev) should know, but he isn't around14:47
phillwAngelForget: if you're running 20120327 or the 20120327.1 (for desktop) you have the latest builds. There is a feature freeze in effect, so no updates are being launched.14:48
phillwbut there are re-spins to fix critical bugs. (Such as a kernel crash / not able to partition etc.).14:49
MrChrisDruifTo add to phillw; only bug-fixes could be send as updates14:49
AngelForget phillw  i have the beta 2 desktop Lubuntu 12.04 precise,14:52
AngelForgetphillw, then to solve the various bugs will be released in several future updates?14:53
phillwthere will be a respin tonight and updates will then be available.14:54
AngelForgetHowever, the 12.04 is very well done compared to 11.10 and is more stable much faster14:56
MrChrisDruifIt's always good to hear positive news about the development release. Thanks again AngelForget ^_^14:57
phillwAngelForget: lubuntu has more testers this cycle, so we have been able to get bugs reported quickly thus allowing devs to spend time fixing instead of testing :)15:08
ikoniahave you never had official testers before ?15:10
ikoniaI'm shocked, the quality of release has been as high as it has if you've not had testers15:10
MrChrisDruifikonia; the devs were also testers (yikes!)15:11
AngelForgetphillw,  Lubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 has many bugs as I see15:13
MrChrisDruifAngelForget; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs15:13
ikoniaMrChrisDruif: impressive that it's been of a such a high quality then15:16
MrChrisDruifikonia; indeed. But you know the saying "Think twice, build once"15:16
phillwikonia: more impressive is the mac guys who basically joined 2 days before beta 1 and have learned all about iso tracker :)15:17
MrChrisDruif(cut once, but you get the idea)15:17
phillwAngelForget: fortunately not too many critical ones.15:18
AngelForgetphillw, I was very surprised by the speed of writing and the new fonts and icons. I had never tried a vers. beta so well structured15:20
phillwAngelForget: Raphael, our art guy, pulled the rabbit out of the magicians hat to sqiush that bug!15:22
AngelForgetNot else to say but just do indeed many many congratulations to all the staff of programming that Lubuntu 12.0415:25
phillwAngelForget: if you're interested in helping with the testing, please feel free to join https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa have a mailing list on there where we can discuss stuff without flooding the main list.15:26
AngelForgetphillw,  thanks i I immediately sign up15:28
phillwAngelForget: approved15:30
AngelForgetmore and more thanks phillw15:31
phillwour thanks to you, testers are always welcome.15:32
AngelForgetI must go, I greet you all of the chan and even a super thank you phillw15:41
svahey - i am using lubuntu sometimes on 2 screens (laptop + external). i am using the "monitor settings" to start the second screen and than ARAndrR to adjust17:45
svabut it seems it is just possible wo make one big screen out of those 217:46
svabut this is not what i want, as the size is different. so at the laptop screen there is always one of the panels disapperaring (it is in that part of the big virtual screen that doesnt have an real existing screen17:47
svawhat i want (as it has been in ubuntu): one screen is primary, one secondary. both having their panels where they belong :)17:48
smile4everbye! :)18:16
pcroquesva: I don't think lxpanel works well with two screens. I finally switched to tint2, which works great with two screens.18:26
* sva asks google for tint2 18:27
sva:)18:27
bioterrorin tint2 you can also have "launchers"18:28
svalooks good on the first look, thanks a lot18:28
bioterrorand make it open lxmenu :D18:28
pcroqueActually, I have tint2 running for the task switcher, and a short lxpanel running for menu, tray, etc.18:28
svabioterror: what is launchers in this context?18:28
bioterrorbut it's a little bit tricky18:28
bioterrorsva, just a moment18:29
bioterrorsva, http://ricecows.org/launcher.png18:29
bioterrorthose icons in the bottom left corner18:29
svaah! okay, i already have them in the lxpanel18:30
bioterrorofcourse you have them in lxpanel ;)18:31
svabut I dont think that tne panel is the problem - the problem is, that the ARandR doesnt make 2 screens18:31
svabut 1 virtual screen with an expanded panel18:31
svathat is invisible on the smaller screen18:31
bioterrorwish I got a dime every time I hear Xorg + two displays gives headache18:32
bioterrorI could quit my daily job and just read irc screen ;)18:32
svabioterror: :D18:32
svabut it worked so well with ubuntu!!1!18:32
sva:)18:32
bioterrortechnically there should be no difference between lubuntu and ubuntu18:32
bioterrorexcept how panels works18:32
svano but the gui for monitor settings are totally different18:33
svasorry i am not so deep into that stuff. i just know that it looked different and it did different things ;)18:34
svain lubuntu you can (native) just say "second screen on/off" but no adjusting. thats why i installed this ARandR thing18:34
svain ubuntu there was already (native) an adjusting thing. setting primary screens and so on18:35
bioterrorhttp://linuxconfig.net/wp-content/gallery/ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/system_settings_v1-2-2.png18:36
bioterrorsomething like that?18:36
svayes, not that fancy, but nearly :)18:37
bioterrorI'm going to promise to check this dual screen thing next week18:39
bioterrorwhen I get time to move some files and install lubuntu and plug into my display and play with it18:39
svaare you developing as well?18:40
bioterrornope, but then I can answer easier18:40
bioterror:D18:40
sva:D18:40
svathats really nice. i'll keep you updated if i find anything new. but atm i made kind of a workaround by re-organising the panel, so that the corner that isnt seen doesn have any important things18:41
bioterrormy desktop computer is nowdays connected to tv, so I have my monitor hanging without use18:42
svaand i will have a look on that tint2 anyway18:43
bioterroroh well18:43
bioterrorI could just copy all the files to my router and install lubuntu18:43
bioterrorhmmm18:43
bioterrorand grab them from there18:43
svadoesnt make any difference if it is an tv or an monitor, does it?18:43
svawhy are you hangig around here without having lubuntu installed, if i am allowed to ask? :D18:44
bioterrorbecouse my computers seems to break down and I have few different systems installed18:45
svabioterror: hehe, was the same with mine, so i choosed lubuntu instead of ubuntu18:47
svabut actually i am not quite sure to keep it. i mean, its not _that_ faster and also i hoped for longer battery power (that seems to be a kernel thing)18:48
svaand i am installing and installing stuff that is missing - so i am not sure if my user-behaviour fits the lubuntu-philosophie ;)18:49
bioterroryou have a decent laptop?18:49
svayes! thinkpad, sure thing :)18:49
bioterrorit's harder to see the difference then18:50
svabut already some years old - but i dont like that new levono stuff. and it fits for me. most of the things i do is per "screen" on a server.18:50
svaso its just a terminal with webbrowser, actually18:51
bioterrormostly yes18:51
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