[00:00] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, I was going to show you this script that removes old kernels when you upgrade
[00:00] <SDr> anthropos, nope
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: i've seen a command that does it and its not very readable, scary times
[00:00] <anthropos> SDr: what about higher vebosity (extra -v)
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I have a script, its not very graceful though :)
[00:00] <anthropos> -v, -vv, -vvv
[00:00] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, I call it ubuntucleaner.sh
[00:01] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, can you pastebin the script
[00:01] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Here it is -> http://pastebin.com/ykYMAypn
[00:02] <Quantum_Ion> dr3mro, Just name the script ubuntucleaner.sh
[00:02] <Quantum_Ion> and chmod +x and run as root
[00:02] <anthropos> SDr: also -O forward and/or letting the server pick the port (set the server port to 0)
[00:03] <SDr> anthropos, -vvv: http://pastebin.com/hditxdbQ
[00:03] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, THANK YOU ! :) I will rewrite it to make it more cutomizable so a user would chooses only one action to launch :)
[00:03] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, thnx
[00:03] <philip__> Hello guys. I'm having problems with my HDD not being identified properly by name from the bios and ubuntu as well. While cloning this drive i found out that my partitions are messed up. Could that be the reason? http://pastebin.com/Pe9BCedy
[00:03] <anthropos> try setting the listen port to 0
[00:03] <Quantum_Ion> dr3mro, Did it work!
[00:04] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, I already used it b4
[00:04] <Quantum_Ion> dr3mro, okay
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901373/
[00:05] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[00:05] <SDr> anthropos, remote forward failure for: listen 0, connect myremotecomp:1433
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: mines called removeOldKernels (I don't add the .sh extension as it isn't needed)
[00:05] <anthropos> odd
[00:05] <anthropos> is the remote machine behind a firewall
[00:05] <SDr> (also, Warning: remote port forwarding failed for listen port 0   just after that)
[00:05] <anthropos> the windows machine you're sshing to
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I also have CLI imgur upload: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901377/
[00:06] <SDr> anthropos, yes, it has only 3 ports open (ssh, http, https)
[00:06] <SDr> anthropos, does ssh reverse port forwarding need another port?
[00:06] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, Quantum_Ion  I am having an Idea to make a new security model for ubuntu :) ?? Can we use md5sum that is already there on dpkg db to check executables md5sums before execution and prevent exection of any script outside /bin /usr/bin ... and warn the user for bad commands like rm -rf /* any ideas!
[00:06] <anthropos> did you try explicitly opening the port you want to ssh to instead of trying to get it work using a stateful rule
[00:06] <anthropos> nm
[00:06] <anthropos> you are doing -R
[00:06] <anthropos> it should not be an issue
[00:07] <Quantum_Ion> dr3mro, interesting idea
[00:07] <anthropos> it should not require any extra ports
[00:07] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, What does that last script do ?
[00:07] <SDr> anthalamus, also, nc -l -p 10000 on the remote machine succeeds
[00:07] <anthropos> so this works just fine if the server is running linux
[00:07] <anthropos> ?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: uploads to imgur and makes a URL of the image for you
[00:07] <SDr> anthalamus, yes
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: kinda like pastebinit but for images
[00:07] <anthropos> bizarre
[00:07] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, okay
[00:07] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, when ubuntu become more popular it should prepare for viruses that are wating to be created for ubuntu
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I have a getkey script for when users forget to import gpg keys
[00:08] <SDr> anthropos, freesshd 1.2.4 on the server, OpenSSH_4.6p1 on the client
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: my favourite is http://paste.ubuntu.com/901384/
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: that gets ran a few times a day
[00:09] <anthropos> so you anticipate this command opening up a port on the remote server to which you can connect to from your local machine and have your traffic forwarded to wherever
[00:09] <anthropos> right?
[00:09] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Do you have this script to capture flash video on Ubuntu ?
[00:10] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, It's written in Perl but it works really well
[00:10] <SDr> anthropos, no, I anticipate this command making a firewalled SQL server available on my target remote machine
[00:10] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/5CRz9hPd
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: never had to do it, so no
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I just watch it in browser or minitube
[00:11] <anthropos> a sql server that is running locally, yes?
[00:11] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Save it as flashcapture.pl
[00:11] <nOOb> hi am trying to set up tor in ubuntu, am connecting to the net thru a proxy, ports open r 8008 and 80, pls help
[00:11] <Quantum_Ion> and run perl flashcapture.pl
[00:11] <Quantum_Ion> It captures all kinds of flash videos
[00:11] <anthropos> n00b, are you using the tor browser bundle
[00:11] <SDr> anthropos, on the local network, behind a corporate firewall, yes (references as "myremotecomp" above)
[00:12]  * SDr is liberating the corporate burocracy armed with OSS tools ;)
[00:12] <anthropos> i need to keep straight what we are calling local and what we are calling remote. the sql server is running on the network which is local relative to the machine initiating the ssh connection, yes?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I just watch flash in my apps, no need to capture it for my needs, its online so why would you need a local copy?
[00:12] <williamtdr> hello
[00:13] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, It saves it as an .FLV file and you can use FFMPEG to convert to other formats
[00:13] <SDr> anthalamus, yes
[00:13] <SDr> anthropos, yup
[00:13] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Then I use VLC to play the videos back
[00:13] <Resistance> anthropos: yep
[00:13] <nOOb> anthropos; yes bt each time the network does nt complete setting up
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: but why store it, its online. you can play it any time
[00:13] <anthropos> n00b, vidalia should have an option to specify a proxy, does it not?
[00:13] <dell> what extension do I use to show hidden files in the terminal?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> dell: run:  ls -a
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> dell: there is no extension
[00:14] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, remember back in the days when flash videos used to be stored in the /tmp folder in Linux but not anymore
[00:14] <dell> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:14] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, did you know about debsums -sa
[00:14] <Quantum_Ion> dr3mro, No what is for ?
[00:14] <anthropos> SDr: just as an experiment, you could try specifying a bind_address and have the remote machine listen on its network interface rather than loopback
[00:14] <patrick__> hey
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: i remember it, but it never interested me. If I want a video I can just get it online
[00:14] <f3ck4r> dell: -la
[00:15] <nOOb> anthropos:hav entered the proxy setting bt an err pops up, https bad connection , the proxy sever is squid
[00:15] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, The only videos I can not capture are videos from http://www.tmz.com
[00:15] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, it checks your system files against apt md5sum database :) "sudo debsums -sa"
[00:15]  * williamtdr is tired
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> f3ck4r: -a will show the hidden folder, the details weren't needed :)
[00:15] <anthropos> n00b, are you sure the port, etc. is correct? what information does it ask for aside from host and port
[00:15] <patrick__> I have many problems with my display settings on version 11.10 and I did all the updates and installed the nVidia driver.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: but why capture?
[00:15] <f3ck4r> ActionParsnip: fine then D;
[00:16] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Because sometimes video download speeds are slow
[00:16] <patrick__> I have two monitors but it barely detects one it says it's unknown.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: cache it a little...
[00:16] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, You know how sometimes people like to use youtube-dl to download youtube videos
[00:16] <dr3mro> patrick__, did you try precise (12.04)
[00:16] <nOOb> anthropos:there is an option for setting up the bridge
[00:16] <U_Crazy> hey all
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> patrick__: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[00:16] <anthropos> n00b, you do not need or want a bridge unless your isp or country blocks tor traffic
[00:16] <patrick__> No I did not isn't 12.04 a beta?
[00:17] <anthropos> n00b, if you ust have a regular proxy, that is not the same thing as a tor bridge
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: yeah, no I dea why eiher
[00:17] <Resistance> !12.04 | patrick__
[00:17] <Resistance> patrick__: that should explain the answer ;)
[00:17] <anthropos> bridges are for people in places like iran, syria, etc.
[00:17] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Sometimes you like to capture your favorite youtube videos and play them back later
[00:17] <f3ck4r> anthropos: yeah!
[00:18] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, From time to time youtube goes down for system maintenance blah blah blah !
[00:18] <f3ck4r> anthropos: but he may want to help them ;>
[00:18] <patrick__> I am on 11.10.
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: not seen that, oh well :)
[00:18] <anthropos> yes. he could run a brdige, or a relay, which would be nice
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> patrick__: can you run the command I gave and pastebin the output
[00:18] <f3ck4r> why not obfs
[00:18] <SDr> anthropos, and our winner is: ssh Administrator@remotecomputer.com -R 127.0.0.1:1433:mylocalnetcomputer:1433 -p 8081 -v
[00:18] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Yeah sometimes at 3am youtube goes down for system maintenance
[00:19] <U_Crazy> visit http://punya-rizal.blogspot.com/
[00:19] <anthropos> he could do that too, although i'm not sure how many people use obfsproxy yet
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: never seen that in all my days, must have been lucky
[00:19] <anthropos> SDr: what did you change?
[00:19] <anthropos> login?
[00:19] <SDr> anthropos, added 127.0.0.1 as the bind_address, just like you suggested :)
[00:19] <anthropos> cool, I'm glad it worked.
[00:20] <SDr> anthropos, I think this is due to some ipv6 thingie. ping localhost returns Reply from ::1:
[00:20] <f3ck4r> if im not wrong the only way to help iran and syria is with obfs
[00:20] <anthropos> ah, yeah. that seems plausible
[00:20] <patrick__> I will pastebin soon.
[00:20] <nOOb> anthropos: ok so hav jst done an nmap scan and the ports open r 80, of which it has bin reconfigured to 8008 , 22, 111, how shud I proceed
[00:20] <SDr> anthropos, thanks so much :)
[00:20] <anthropos> f3ck4r: i think tor works in syria, and i think at least bridges work in iran
[00:20] <anthropos> iran blocked https for awhile but I don't believe they do presently
[00:20] <anthropos> SDr: no problem, take care
[00:21] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, I use that perl flash capture script to capture videos off of cnn.com for download and playback using vlc media player
[00:21] <anthropos> n00p, an nmap scan of what
[00:21] <f3ck4r> well, iran block tor traffic at least is what they said so that is why they test obfs and do work it
[00:21] <anthropos> f3ck4r: they ahve in the past, but i dont think they do presently.
[00:21] <patrick__> http://pastebin.com/Nqvnkxce
[00:21] <philip__> Hello guys. I'm having problems with my HDD not being identified properly by name from the bios and ubuntu as well. While cloning this drive i found out that my partitions are messed up. Could that be the reason? http://pastebin.com/Pe9BCedy
[00:21] <f3ck4r> anthropos: nice then D;
[00:21] <nOOb> antrhopos: am behind a proxy server
[00:21] <f3ck4r> anthropos: i ran myself at the time just for help D;
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: seems a little pointless, but whatever floats your boat
[00:22] <anthropos> n00b, what did you scan
[00:22] <anthropos> f3ck4r: nice :)
[00:22] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, lol
[00:22] <Resistance> philip__: which of those is "messed up"?
[00:22] <Resistance> oh nevermind
[00:22]  * Resistance misread
[00:22] <philip__> Probably sda4, sda5.
[00:23] <patrick__> how would i do the dpkg? it says I need superuser permissions
[00:23] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, You must have a really fast online connection I just have basic ISP service
[00:23] <philip__> ok.
[00:23] <heckman> So, why is Ubuntu no longer using the Linux kernel?
[00:23] <Resistance> !sudo | patrick__
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: 50Mb
[00:23] <f3ck4r> heckman: i wanna know this either!
[00:23] <Resistance> philip__: the partition tables might be messed up, and subsequently the identification via BIOS, because of failing hardware, it's (generally) tough to say.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> heckman: it is an does
[00:24] <Resistance> philip__: did the drive give any indications of death before this problem?
[00:24] <Resistance> (also, does it still work)
[00:24] <heckman> ActionParsnip: "Beta-1 includes the 3.2.0-17.27 Ubuntu kernel which is based on the v3.2.6 upstream stable kernel."
[00:24] <nOOb> anthropos: its a skuul network, so the admin uses a proxy sever to filter web request, the only allowable port is 8008, which am sure is working, the others r jst wat nmap results displayed on the screen
[00:24] <heckman> The Ubuntu kernel?
[00:24] <Resistance> heckman: a version of the Linux kernel, modified for Ubuntu
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> heckman: yes, thats's a Linux kernel
[00:24] <Resistance> !kernel | heckman
[00:25] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, So watching flash videos is a breeze for you
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: very
[00:25] <philip__> No, smartcontrol looks clean, and i'm booting from this drive right now.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: 120Mb in summer
[00:25] <heckman> Then it should be the Ubuntu-version of the Linux kernel
[00:25] <anthropos> n00b, look at firefox or something working and use that as a reference for finding the correct proxy settings
[00:25] <Resistance> heckman: apropos "Ubuntu Kernel"
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> heckman: it will be compiled by the ubuntu team and packaged
[00:25] <heckman> So?
[00:25] <anthropos> n00b, i dont understand what you nmap'd. i'm guessng you mean you nmap'd the proxy server
[00:25] <Resistance> they're synonyms, no need to argue terminology :P
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> heckman: so its the same kernel, just a different version
[00:25] <heckman> I could compile the Linux kernel and package it with a distro and it doesn't make it the Heckman kernel
[00:25] <f3ck4r> just use netstat then
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> heckman: there is no ubuntu kernel, its the same kernel code as the other distros, just compiled for ubuntu
[00:26] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Wow cool !
[00:26] <ghostconn> can anyone recommend a distro more customizable then kubuntu 12:04? I mean hands down its the ultimate competition for 2012..but im still wondering is there anything else in comparison
[00:26] <heckman> ActionParsnip: then don't even call it the Ubuntu kernel
[00:26] <heckman> It's retarded
[00:26] <heckman> Kind of like lolnity
[00:27] <Resistance> ghostconn: define "customisable" and remember: you're in an ubuntu channel, we're going to lean to an Ubuntu thing :P
[00:27] <Resistance> s/thing/version/
[00:27] <Resistance> ghostconn: subsequently, 12.04 is in beta, it shouldn't be used for anything except testing at this point.
[00:27] <Resistance> (that's obviously an opinion, but still)
[00:28] <anthropos> ubuntu is in principle as customizable as any other linux distro, but what you probably mean is one that exposes more options for user customization by default via the gui
[00:28] <nOOb> anthropos: yes I nmapd the proxy sever, and the proxy settings in my ubuntu r 8008, same as that of firefox 8008 that's for the ports in addition to the IP address , am I missing something
[00:28] <anthropos> n00b, does firefox (not thru the tor bundle) work if you configure the proxy correctly
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> nOOb: could grab the tor browser
[00:29] <anthropos> he has it, supposedly
[00:29] <f3ck4r> anthropos: i think slackware is more customizable in that terms
[00:29] <philip__> Resistance, right now gparted can only read half of the disk while fdisk shows everything as you saw in the pastebin. It is confusing.
[00:29] <anthropos> or archlinux, but both will require you to edit conf files, etc. which you can also do in ubuntu if you're inclined
[00:29] <species> what on earth have you guys done to gnome
[00:29] <U_Crazy> v1.2.10b_Kernel2.6.21, what is it?
[00:29]  * species is change adverse
[00:30] <Beticious> Play the free game of sports bet, you can win a PS3 or 50$ paypal tickets for free http://www.beticious.com/es/register?ref=Trece30
[00:30] <anthropos> philip__: you've rescued all your data right?
[00:30] <Resistance> philip__: sounds like partition table foulups, or the onset of drive death, i have similar situations on some of my dead drives (not the same, but similar)
[00:30] <f3ck4r> anthropos: yeah
[00:30] <anthropos> (all the data you can)
[00:30] <philip__> Im cloning them as we speak.
[00:30] <anthropos> prudent
[00:30] <patrick__> http://pastebin.com/zGCbzjfL
[00:30] <thunderbug> is it still recommended to create a swap partition of your boot drive is SSD?
[00:30] <thunderbug> *if
[00:31] <anthropos> you can create one for it to use in catastrophic situations, but it should almost never be used if you have a reasonable amount of memory
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> patrick__: cool, ok what is the issue with the display
[00:31] <anthropos> i run my ssd-based system with no swap, but if you want to be sure you don't run out of memory, you should have one
[00:31] <Mathuin> I want my minecraft server to come up every time I boot the system.  The minecraft server is owned by the user 'minecraft'.  I actually want screen to start up, and I can use .screenrc to actually start minecraft.  How do I start screen from boot as user 'minecraft'?
[00:31] <nOOb> anthrpos: yeah , firefox accesses the net thru the proxy settings, and am also able to update thru the same, as for the tor bundle, when I excute, it stops somewhere in bootstrapping accordin to the logs,
[00:31] <anthropos> set vm.swappines very low
[00:31] <patrick__> I have two monitors both at 1920 x 1080 works perfectly in windows but in ubuntu it doesn't detect my second screen.
[00:32] <thunderbug> thanks
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: if you add the command to start the server in /etc/rc.local   (remember to background it with &) it will run at startup
[00:32] <anthropos> n00b, did you try to reocnnect to tor via vidalia (without closing it) after changing the proxy settings (THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS A BRIDGE)
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> patrick__: in nvidia-settings   hit the 'detect displays' button a few times
[00:32] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip: so something akin to "su - minecraft screen" with the proper .screenrc should do it?
[00:33] <philip__> Ok then. The targeted disk is usb from which my bios can't boot. What is the best recipe to resolve that, if one exists?
[00:33] <f3ck4r> screen minecraft
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Mathuin: sounds ok if that does it, remember to background it with an ampersand, or the boot will hang
[00:33] <ghostconn> resistance- customizable as in the UI,desktop environment. I tried ubuntu 11:10 and i didn't mind it I can't say it's bad or anything but it lacks allot on performance compared to it's cousin kubuntu., I have done benchmarks and the results are brutal lol
[00:33] <anthropos> thunderbug: you should also mount your ssd with the discard option in fstab if your drive supports trim
[00:34] <Mathuin> f3ck4r: how does screen handle something like (cd serverdir && sh server_nogui.sh) ?
[00:34] <Mathuin> ActionParsnip: I will remember to background it, and put in a few echos so I can see if I forget. :-)
[00:34] <f3ck4r> it handle in a background like an daemon but u can attached and detached
[00:34] <nOOb> anthropos: yep, I restarted it bt no route is found, shud I purge n reinstall the whole package
[00:35] <f3ck4r> like i ran this irssi session D;
[00:35] <anthropos> did you mess with the bridges, if so undo any of that or reinstall the tor bundle
[00:36] <nOOb> anthropos: wud try that , thanks
[00:36] <ghostconn> any try pear os?
[00:36] <f3ck4r> Mathuin: i can just use ctrl+a+d and detached this session but this will still be running in background
[00:37] <Mathuin> f3cker: oh, I'm really good at screen, I've been using it since like 1995, I've just never used it to start something at boot like this. :-)
[00:37] <Mathuin> I prefer C-z to C-a since I like Emacs, but to each their own. :-)
[00:39] <patrick__> actionparsnip: thanks but do you also know how to increase gpu fan speeds/
[00:39] <Mathuin> http://oscarhjelm.com/blag/?p=482 <-- has a one-liner I should be able to hack.  Thanks to both f3ck4r and ActionParsnip for your help!! :-)
[00:39] <f3ck4r> Mathuin: you can created a script to deal with it or rc.local
[00:41] <philip__> Well, i can afford to buy a new hard disk now, but if boot from the usb one fail, then i'd have to cause i'm really tired of not having a working system. Thanks for the help guys.
[00:42] <anthropos> bbl, take care all
[00:50] <mateus> br?
[00:51] <species> how do I get back normal gnome?
[00:52] <species> i tried logging in with gnome-classic but the toolbar seems to have had most of its features disabled
[00:52] <species> such as adding an icon to it
[00:52] <species> and its clear that unity is designed for the mythical non technical users that everybody thinks are going to suddenly start using linux "any day now"
[00:54] <f3ck4r> species: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[00:55] <species> i'd rather not get one of the "alternative ubuntu" distros
[00:55] <adrien2> lubuntu is good if you dont like unity or have an older computer.
[00:55] <linuxnut> Would ubuntu be a good base for a honeypot
[00:55] <species> it makes me sad that now ive suddenly become an old stuck-in-the-mud
[00:56] <f3ck4r> species: im use old gnome as well
[00:56] <adrien2> I like lubuntu lxde shell
[00:56] <species> i dont understand why they thought they should change it
[00:56] <adrien2> I never like gnome.
[00:57] <species> instead of changing those things they should sort out open office, which is probably the main barrier to linux being for normies
[00:57] <adrien2> I wonder too, because that unity shell drove me up the wall, without the launcher it would be usable.
[00:57] <species> open office is still fairly terrible for everyday use
[00:57] <species> ive used it for many years, grudgingly
[00:57] <adrien2> open office is great
[00:57] <f3ck4r> species: unity is crappy
[00:58] <OysterCult> if open office is bad what do you recommend?
[00:58] <adrien2> i dont know why ubuntu comes with those other word proccesor instead of open office
[00:58] <species> i dont :( its the best of a bad choice
[00:58] <huckleberry78> hey does anybody know why I would not be passing SASL authentication today.  It worked yesterday
[00:58] <species> as i said, ive used it for years, grudgingly
[00:58] <adrien2> it works better than word for me
[00:58] <TeamRocket1233c> Successfully installed X and Fluxbox on a Ubuntu server.
[00:58] <szkodnik> jo
[00:59] <f3ck4r> huckleberry78: did you save the configuration?!
[00:59] <TeamRocket1233c> And TBH, Fluxbox isn't a terrible server GUI at all.
[00:59] <huckleberry78> yeah
[00:59] <adrien2> i like fluxbox
[00:59] <f3ck4r> i don't like fb as well
[00:59] <matt5> hey!
[00:59] <huckleberry78> it had worked for the past few days...
[00:59] <huckleberry78> now I get...
[00:59] <adrien2> it's actually good for desktop use, but i had to stop using it because it's very glitchy
[00:59] <OU-TeamJaded> hah I got all your IP's better watch out
[01:00] <linuxnut>  irc.anonops.ru
[01:00] <linuxnut> oops
[01:00] <OU-TeamJaded> 127.0.0.1 yup thats your ip linuxnut
[01:00] <species> hmm, im out of date, we should be calling open office libreoffice now
[01:00] <linuxnut> localhost
[01:01] <adrien2> i never used libreoffice
[01:01] <TeamRocket1233c> adrien2: I'm a much bigger Openbox fan for Desktop use.
[01:01] <adrien2> i wish i knew how to remove it
[01:01] <f3ck4r> libre is BS
[01:01] <adrien2> my favorite is LXDE
[01:01] <species> lol, there is a game called "bastard tetris" available for download
[01:01] <TeamRocket1233c> f3ck4r: LibreOffice is actually a viable alternative to MS Office.
[01:01] <f3ck4r> gnome or enlightenment
[01:01] <adrien2> neither.
[01:01] <linuxnut> I did not ask what my ip address is ?
[01:01] <adrien2> gnome is glitchy and ugly, and enlightment, never used it
[01:02] <species> the thing about DE's is that, if you are doing your actual work, the appearence isnt relevant
[01:02] <f3ck4r> adrien2: i don't think so, but i like it D;
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> species: +1
[01:02] <species> what is relevant however is if it has huge icons which take up 5% of the screen
[01:02] <TeamRocket1233c> adrien2: GNOME isn't bad at all.
[01:02] <adrien2> i believe there's some hardware compatibility problems between my computer and ubuntu
[01:03] <huckleberry78> I'm getting this:  [18:43:54] *** Looking up your hostname...
[01:03] <huckleberry78> [18:43:54] *** Checking Ident
[01:03] <huckleberry78> [18:43:55] *** Found your hostname
[01:03] <huckleberry78> [18:44:04] *** No Ident response
[01:03] <huckleberry78> [18:44:06] SASL authentication failed
[01:03] <FloodBot1> huckleberry78: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <huckleberry78> [18:44:07] SASL authentication aborted
[01:03] <f3ck4r> u can change the icon size u know that right
[01:03] <adrien2> so the glitches and such might be hardware related
[01:03] <species> f3ck4r: please tell me how
[01:03] <TheEmpath> greetings ubuntonians
[01:03] <f3ck4r> if im not wrong there is an option where u can set the size of the icon
[01:03] <species> TheEmpath: im fast becoming not an ubuntonian here
[01:04] <TeamRocket1233c> adrien2: And if GNOME Shell won't boot, or if you don't like it, Fallback mode isn't terrible either.
[01:04] <TheEmpath> I have a shell scripting challenge and I was curious where I might be able to find some insight on how to solve this and, perhaps, if it has been solved before. https://gist.github.com/2c3c756784b38b0e0b90
[01:04] <f3ck4r> Gnome Shell is great, I love it!
[01:04] <TheEmpath> It's basically a "grab a bunch of file names, string replace them, jam each one into a template, then output all of it"
[01:04] <adrien2> i didnt mind the gnome classic, but it wasted a lot of screen space... LXDE suits my taste for interface
[01:05] <f3ck4r> adrien2: just remove it
[01:05] <adrien2> id like to remove unity too
[01:05] <species> another thing, i cant believe the power settings now consists of only two settings
[01:05] <adrien2> though i find everytime i change certain things in ubuntu i have to reinstall
[01:05] <species> thats completely rediculous
[01:05] <linuxnut> Would it be possible to write a shell script that will generate every possible ipv4 address
[01:05] <adrien2> it defaults to the lubuntu window manager sense i installed it anwyays
[01:05] <species> who the hell do they think is going to use this?
[01:05] <TeamRocket1233c> adrien2: You could just do a minimal install and install X and whatever WM or DE you want.
[01:05] <f3ck4r> species: idk
[01:05] <tazer> libnl; righht mobnitches
[01:05] <tazer> u fufckin pieces ofm snhit love linux rigfhgt
[01:05] <tazer> libnl
[01:05] <ghostconn> I want to try a new distro, im pondering between fedora kde,open suse gnome/kde,or arch
[01:05] <tazer> is ur packavege
[01:06] <species> this is too simplistic for schoolkids
[01:06] <tazer> FUICK Y(!U]
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> adrien2: lxde is nice, gets on with stuff and no messing
[01:06] <adrien2> next time i have to reinstall I'm geting lubuntu, that way I'll never have to boot into that awful unity shell again
[01:06] <tazer> DONT FUCI WI T ME BITCH
[01:06] <tazer> I AM A LINUX ADULT!
[01:06] <FloodBot1> tazer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <f3ck4r> change the distro just cuz a window manager?!
[01:06] <adrien2> that's what I'm using now, lxde
[01:06] <tazer> UI AINT FLOODIN FUCKIN NOOOB
[01:06] <TeamRocket1233c> tazer: You're certainly not acting like it.
[01:06] <f3ck4r> just install the window manager u want
[01:06] <tazer> LEARN 2 REED
[01:06] <tazer> I AM PRO
[01:06] <tazer> THATS HOW PROS BE YO
[01:06] <FloodBot1> tazer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <adrien2> well I'm using ubuntu right now, i just dont use unity
[01:06] <f3ck4r> adrien2: me too
[01:06] <ghostconn> unity is the biggest flaw the community has ever seen from linux lol
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxnut: sure, simple counter loops
[01:06] <adrien2> and lubuntu is great for older computers... so it suites my needs more
[01:07] <tazer> SO GUYS
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: did you ask in #bash too
[01:07] <TeamRocket1233c> tazer: Seriously, I'm being more mature than you, and I'm a semi-noob at Linux!
[01:07] <tazer> LETS AIRCRACK
[01:07] <f3ck4r> old gnome is what i've been using it D;
[01:07] <tazer> DONT PAY FOR WIFI
[01:07] <FloodBot1> tazer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <TheEmpath> ActionParsnip: Good call!
[01:07] <tazer> WITH LINUX U CAN AIRCRACK EZ
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> tazer: thats offtopic here
[01:07] <tazer> I DONT GIVE A SHIT BITCH
[01:07] <tazer> IM GIVING PEOPLE FREE WIFI
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> !ops | tazer
[01:07] <FloodBot1> tazer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> tazer: bye
[01:07] <tazer> IM NOT FLOODING IDIOT
[01:07] <species> ok, question time; 1) is the version of gnome thats default installed a fork of gnome, or normal gnome just with custom settings?
[01:07] <tazer> TAKE A FUCKIN CHILL PILL BILL
[01:07] <ghostconn> tazer or get you're own internet connection you bum
[01:08] <JermBob> bye bye
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> elky: thanks
[01:08] <adrien2> man this is insane.
[01:08] <elky> whaaaaa?
[01:08] <elky> what did my keyboard just do?
[01:08] <f3ck4r> i think is forked
[01:08] <linuxnut> i'm  trying to use $RANDOM but having some fall backs
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> elky: haha like your style
[01:08] <TeamRocket1233c> That asshole tazer better have fucking left.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: gone and gone
[01:08] <pangolin> !language | TeamRocket1233c
[01:08] <JermBob> elky he will have to aircrack his way out of that one
[01:08] <f3ck4r> lol
[01:08] <species> i thought swearing was not OK in this channel?
[01:08] <JermBob> hehe
[01:08] <ghostconn> !!elky
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> species: its not, hence ops ;D
[01:09] <species> i see
[01:09] <species> well my question got lost in the flood, can I ask it again :|
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> species: sure
[01:09] <elky> species, no, it's not. nor is yelling in all caps, or talking about cracking
[01:09] <TeamRocket1233c> Sorry, just that guy was REALLY pulling on my nerves,'
[01:09] <species> 1) is the version of gnome thats default installed a fork of gnome, or normal gnome just with custom settings?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> species: its gnome3, the next version. The shell has changed from gnome-panel to Unity
[01:10] <JermBob> anyone that needs to talk in caps to be noticed has no place in a friendly environment
[01:10] <ghostconn> dont use unity species!!!
[01:10] <ghostconn> ewwww
[01:10] <JermBob> dont need loud mouths
[01:10] <linuxnut> baltilugs here
[01:10] <TeamRocket1233c> pangolin: ubottu : Sorry 'bout the language. That guy was grinding on my last nerve.
[01:10] <species> ok so gnome-panel is the DE and gnome itself is the WM? is that how its split?
[01:10] <f3ck4r> species: the gnome that i've used is more polish the system tray now work
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> species: gnome is the DE, Compiz is the WM
[01:11] <f3ck4r> the fallback is full of bugs..
[01:11] <nooblikesboobs> hi all, I have a noob question
[01:11] <TeamRocket1233c> species: GNOME Panel isn't entirely dead. Look into GNOME Fallback or GNOME Classic.
[01:11] <species> i tried gnome classic, but it wasn't using the same toolbars (i assume this means it starts up something else rather than gnome-toolbar, which is what im used to)
[01:11] <nate_h> how do I specify the port my http server is running on in gemrc?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> species: omgubuntu has a how to for making the current Gnome look like Gnome2, if you want an easier way just use xfce
[01:11] <nooblikesboobs> I hear about all this ssh and whatnot, is there any free server where I can ssh, create text files, edit etc to learn?
[01:12] <species> its not really about looks, i just prefer the functionality of the old gnome toolbar
[01:12] <TeamRocket1233c> species: Openbox, Fluxbox, LXDE, and Xfce are really good too.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: openssh-server is a free opensource ssh server available in the repos
[01:12] <species> might try lxde
[01:12] <tiox> species: Xfce is the way to go for GNOME2-like functionality.
[01:12] <f3ck4r> species: some of the olf functions is not working as it should at all
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> species: install xfce4 and log off, then log into xfce
[01:12] <nooblikesboobs> wait, isn't that a software??
[01:12] <f3ck4r> *old
[01:12] <tiox> And on top of it, if you had any GNOME2 panel items you wwant to use, XFapplet exists for that.
[01:12] <nooblikesboobs> i'm really new to this please explain a little
[01:13] <ghostconn> i need a good customizable dristo.. preferably kde any suggestions
[01:13] <nooblikesboobs> :(
[01:13] <linuxnut> Can i install openvz ontop of ubuntu ?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: yes, its a server software you can connect to
[01:13] <species> next question: where do I get a proper system settings application? the default one seems to be lacking most functionality
[01:13] <TeamRocket1233c> Openbox and Fluxbox are the way to go, period. They're snappy, low-resource, and relatively easy to use.
[01:13] <f3ck4r> ghostconn: archlinux or slackware
[01:13] <nooblikesboobs> so where is the data hosted?
[01:13] <species> for example, it lacks anything to do with dimmin the display, which is pretty stupid
[01:13] <tiox> nooblikesboobs: #ubuntu is a family-friendly support channel with people of various ages and cultures participating in the same discussion. It is highly recommended you change your nickname to something clean and appropriate.
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: its just a way to connect to your own system, you will be running commands like you do in a terminal
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> You just gotta get used to the having to right-click on the desktop in both of them.
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> species: look in power options and screen saver options. Its all there
[01:14] <nooblikesboobs> ActionParsnip: But I don't have a second computer
[01:14] <species> i can see Unity being hopeless on a laptop which is how im likely to end up using this
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> And possibly having to use the command-line to install new software.
[01:14] <nooblikesboobs> ActionParsnip: Thats why I was asking if there is something free so I can test
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> species: just because you can't find something doesn't mean its not there
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: yes, openssh-server is free
[01:14] <f3ck4r> species: i don't like unity at all even in a laptop
[01:14] <tiox> ActionParsnip: Just means it's not obvious enough.
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> Unless certain distros allow you to install software via graphical means.
[01:15] <tiox> Remember back int eh day when everything was in a menu?
[01:15] <ghostconn> f3ck4r, i want arch so abd i just cant seem to get dual boot working
[01:15] <tiox> I miss those days... *sniff*
[01:15] <TeamRocket1233c> tiox: Like with Windows 95?
[01:15] <nooblikesboobs> ActionParsnip : So it lets me connect to my own server? Or some server maintained by the software developers?
[01:15] <rinzler> nooblikesboobs: almost anything you can do through terminal, you can do through ssh, it just executes on the remote machine instead of the one in front of you.
[01:15] <nooblikesboobs> ActionParsnip: this is confusing
[01:15] <itaylor57> tiox, i remember back in the day when there was no menu
[01:15] <linuxnut> All the cool things you can do with linux and all you guys talk about is gnome kde fluxbox : (
[01:15] <nooblikesboobs> rinzler : but my question is, what remote machine?
[01:16] <itaylor57> bsd 4.2 on a vax lol
[01:16] <TeamRocket1233c> tiox: You can still get menu-oriented interfaces.
[01:16] <nooblikesboobs> I don't have a second computer to test
[01:16] <TeamRocket1233c> linuxnut: Fluxbox is a cool WM.
[01:16] <nooblikesboobs> not sure if openssh-server provides the hardware for the server, or how exactly all this works
[01:16] <species> ActionParsnip: next question, how can I make the [MASSIVE ICONS] in unity smaller?
[01:16] <nooblikesboobs> please halp!
[01:16] <TeamRocket1233c> linuxnut: Openbox too.
[01:17] <linuxnut> I understand the interworkings of fluxbox
[01:17] <tiox> linuxnut: This is a suopport channel for Ubuntu only with occasional discussion of KDE, Xfce and LXDE. Find a different place or poarticipate in #ubuntu-offtopic to go into in-depth detail about non-Ubuntu or more esoteric topics.
[01:17] <species> i dont have trouble using a mouse, and i dont yet have arthritis, so i dont need 96^2 icons
[01:17] <tiox> support*
[01:17] <tiox> My keyboard I swear...
[01:17] <species> i suppose my current performance issues wouldnt be a problem if I gave my VM more than 50% of one CPU core
[01:18] <nooblikesboobs> ActionParsnip: Are you there? Can you give me any links to learn more about this? Googling simply takes me to the software
[01:18] <linuxnut> Can someone point me two a more techy chanel
[01:19] <rinzler> nooblikesboobs: you have two machines in an ssh connection: server and client. client is the one you ssh from, server is the one you ssh to. you need control of two machines to make any use of ssh. if you need practice, you can ssh to your own computer from itself to see what it feels like but there's not too much difference from a normal shell.
[01:19] <kermit> Lunar_Lamp: #ubuntu-server
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: install openssh-server  on the system you want to connect to
[01:19] <nooblikesboobs> tahts my problem, I don't have anything to connect to
[01:20] <nooblikesboobs> rinzler : thanks for the answers, that's what I understood too
[01:20] <nooblikesboobs> but I was looking for some free remote server to try out ssh etc
[01:20] <f3ck4r> ghostconn: i've never used arch but in some days i'll get it running in a box D;
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: so one will be the server and one will be the client, install openssh-server on the server and you can connect from the other system with:  ssh -X username@servername
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: ahh you want to ssh to somethin g on the web
[01:21] <nooblikesboobs> so if I ssh to a server, I can access/edit all files?? is there specific folders that are shared?
[01:21] <nooblikesboobs> ActionParsnip : yes!!
[01:21] <nooblikesboobs> also, what does the -X do?
[01:22] <f3ck4r> nooblikesboobs: u can as long as u have permission to it
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: enables X forwarding, so you can run GUI apps, they will display on the client side but be processed on the server side
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: handy for thin clients
[01:22] <nooblikesboobs> permission as in read/write permission for the files? Or are there special permissions according to the keys?
[01:23] <nooblikesboobs> wow that sounds cool
[01:23] <nooblikesboobs> So is there anything free on the web that I can try all this out on?
[01:23] <nooblikesboobs> Or do I HAVE to have a second computer
[01:23] <ghostconn> f3ck4r, anything a little easier to install haha. i have tried linux mint,ubuntu,fedora,kubuntu & gentoo
[01:23] <f3ck4r> nooblikesboobs: yeah, that kind of permission (rw)
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: found this http://shellmix.com/index.php/free-account/free-shell-account
[01:23] <tamed-chinese> hi all
[01:24] <TeamRocket1233c> -wave-
[01:24] <f3ck4r> ghostconn: slackware for me is more friendly since i've used for so many years, now im under ubuntu 12.04 BETA 2
[01:24] <nooblikesboobs> TY for the link I'll try it out
[01:25] <TeamRocket1233c> ghostconn: What about Fedora?
[01:25] <nooblikesboobs> also thank you for letting me know "free shell account" is the phrase to search for
[01:27] <ghostconn> im running kubuntu 12:04 an i have to say im impressed and will return when it is out of beta... i did not have much linux experience when i tried fedora it was my first distro.. i never tinkered with it, is it any good
[01:27] <TeamRocket1233c> ghostconn: Fedora's actually pretty good, I've played with both the GNOME and Xfce spins and liked them both.
[01:28] <nooblikesboobs> I found it, sdf.org
[01:28] <f3ck4r> ghostconn: my first was a redhat distro based long time ago..then i found slackware and never leave D;
[01:28] <ghostconn> i have never once used xfce only gnome and kde.. i prefer kde but still  love gnome for it's elegance
[01:29] <f3ck4r> gnome and enlightenment for me was the best D;
[01:29] <TeamRocket1233c> ghostconn: And my first distro that actually counts is Crunchbang.
[01:29] <Mike9863> Icons are showing on menus and buttons even though I have the options disabled under desktop -> gnome -> interface under gconf-editor. How can I disable these icons?
[01:30] <f3ck4r> did u try ubuntu-tweak?!
[01:31] <TeamRocket1233c> ghostconn: Currently running #! on my dinosaur of a PC, it's snappy, stable, and up-to-date.
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesboobs: nice :)
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> i wish KDE went back to the 2002 era, great days
[01:32] <f3ck4r> ActionParsnip: yeah
[01:33] <Xabster> How do I get the desktop cube thingy to work? I enabled it in compiz manager and nothing happens on ctrl+alt+down
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Xabster: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[01:33] <f3ck4r> days when the only thing that i used is window maker lolz
[01:33] <ghostconn> never hear of it before? what im really after is something super stable.very customizable UI,window manager. I know people say every distro is what you make it true.. but so not true lol
[01:34] <f3ck4r> ghostconn: a window manager like that is enlightenment and fluxbox
[01:34] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: what is Xabster trying to do?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: seems to have setup compiz, but not getting the effect (cube desktop thing)
[01:35] <daniel> what is the best music player with good  tag support for ubuntu?
[01:35] <Xabster> i think i uninstalled unity
[01:35] <Xabster> or atleast changed it
[01:35] <species> Xabster: congratulations
[01:35] <Xabster> i dont know much about ubuntu so i'm just getting my feet wet
[01:35] <Xabster> does desktop cube need unity?
[01:35] <f3ck4r> keep with the good work Xabster =p
[01:35] <Xabster> =)
[01:35] <f3ck4r> nope
[01:35] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: sounds cool. do you know if it works with xfce?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Xabster: check it's installed, if its not there you won't get effects
[01:36] <Xabster> is this a we-dislike-unity party?
[01:36] <species> yes
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: you just replace xfwin4 with compiz
[01:36] <ghostconn> f3ck4r, I dont mind compiz i enjoy allot of the effects but im always after something bigger and better.. once i find it and install,set it up the way i like i get board and start all over again with another distro lol
[01:36] <f3ck4r> Xabster: yeah heheh
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Xabster: its like marmite, love it or hate it
[01:36] <species> although unity is so simplistic there is barely anything to like or dislike
[01:36] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: I don't really understand...
[01:36] <species> im not sure it even qualifies as a piece of software
[01:36] <Xabster> ActionParsnip, can you remind me how to check that?
[01:36] <f3ck4r> ghostconn: LMAO!
[01:36] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a relatively easy way of telling if two folders are identical?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: compiz is a WM, xfwin4 is the default WM in XFCE, so you just replace it
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Xabster: dpkg -l | grep compiz
[01:37] <ghostconn> honestly its a a disease lol:p
[01:37] <f3ck4r> ic
[01:37] <Xabster> compiz-gnome
[01:37] <Xabster> seems to control the stuff
[01:37] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: Ahh. cool. Thanks. Just wanting to know what i'm looking for to research it :)
[01:38]  * species installs 9.10 trolol
[01:38] <ghostconn> i have been told once I try arch i will never leave
[01:38] <ghostconn> by allot of people lol
[01:38] <nooblikesboobs> wow I'm so deep on sdf.org but now I can't do shit coz I don't know the commands, and bash commands don't work
[01:38] <f3ck4r> after install ubuntu the first thing that i do is removing the networking-manager
[01:39] <f3ck4r> then install gnome
[01:39] <pangolin> nooblikesboobs, please mind your language and change your nick to a family friendly one.
[01:39] <Xabster> without network, f3ck4r?
[01:39] <f3ck4r> nope
[01:39] <f3ck4r> just use interfaces, dhcp and so on
[01:40] <Xabster> to me it seems easier to do it the other way around
[01:40] <f3ck4r> i don't need that crappy
[01:40] <f3ck4r> i don't think so..
[01:40] <darkhalo> /usr/sbin/brctl, what is this file? know?
[01:40] <f3ck4r> with 2 network card this thing could be troublesome
[01:41] <f3ck4r> i just prefer to do by hand D:
[01:42] <rod> 7yyyyyyyyyyyyyfy77gf97fy7ffffffffffiiifffyg76tgf76t
[01:42] <rod> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:42] <rod> k
[01:42] <rod> k
[01:42] <FloodBot1> rod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo: try:   dpkg -S brctl    to see the package
[01:43] <rod> cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxcccccccccccczzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> rod: what is the point exactly?
[01:43] <Shojo> uhm....whats taking so long to ban a nick ?:P
[01:43] <dsnyders> Perhaps rod is having keyboard problems.
[01:43] <ghostconn> well i think im going to try mint 12 kde? any thought
[01:43] <ghostconn> or reasons to talk me out of it lol
[01:43] <rod> bvbvbvbvbvbvvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvbvb
[01:43] <darkhalo> thanks
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: go for it, mint has its own support channels though
[01:44] <Shojo> really?:)
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> Shojo: Nice nick! :)
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !ops | rod
[01:44] <Shojo> TeamRocket1233c: is a bot?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Shojo: it can still be kick/banned
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> Shojo: No, I'm not.
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> Shojo: I'm an actual person.
[01:44] <Shojo> oh, then, thanks
[01:44] <pangolin> !ot
[01:45] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a relatively easy way of telling if two folders are identical?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: md5sum
[01:45] <Xabster> dsnyders, identical contents?
[01:45] <Xabster> filenames or bytewise comparison?
[01:45] <Shojo> ActionParsnip: i know bots can be kicked or banned, but i wasn't asking that. Just wondering why rod wasnt kicked
[01:46] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, md5sum works on folders.  Cool!  I'll look into it.  Thanks.
[01:46] <elky> ActionParsnip, left of its own accord.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> elky: no bad thing, thanks anyway
[01:46] <TeamRocket1233c> Shojo: I thought you were asking if I was a bot at first,
[01:46] <darkhalo> ok so i'm trying to bridge eth0 and br0 and apperently openvpn doesn't like it. any suggestions?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> elky: I think dr_willis left the cage open agin
[01:47] <dsnyders> Xabster, Identical contents, bytewise.  When I get a new hard drive I copy the old one onto the new.  I'm several copies deep now with many duplicate folders, and I want to clean things up.
[01:47] <f3ck4r> bridge or share?!
[01:47] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: diff dir1 dir2
[01:47] <nooblikesoranges> hi all
[01:48] <Shojo> TeamRocket1233c: yes i was and you answered me, and then i wrote to ActionParsnip
[01:48] <EsoRottica> Hello!
[01:48] <TeamRocket1233c> nooblikesoranges: Hiya! :)
[01:48] <nooblikesoranges> what irc client do you use? does it have any specific advantages to webchat?
[01:48] <TeamRocket1233c> Shojo: But I'm not though. I'm an actual person at a keyboard.
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesoranges: pidgin and irssi (when I'm at work), andchat from my phone
[01:49] <nooblikesoranges> TeamRocket1233c: what irc client do you use?
[01:49] <nooblikesoranges> ActionParsnip: ty
[01:49] <Shojo> TeamRocket1233c:  You *already answered me*
[01:49] <f3ck4r> nooblikesor: irssi
[01:49] <f3ck4r> nooblikesor: if BitxhX support sasl i would still use it instead of irssi
[01:49] <TeamRocket1233c> nooblikesoranges: Actually, I'm unfortunately on a Windows Vista PC, on a crappy 56k connection.
[01:49] <dsnyders> Jordan_U, does diff do md5sums, or does it just compare filenames/sizes.
[01:50] <TeamRocket1233c> nooblikesoranges: As it's the only web connection in the house.
[01:50] <EsoRottica> Guys, I've been struggling all day playing with my video card and cant seem to figure it out. Anyone good with flgrx? and yes, I'm already in #ati
[01:50] <nooblikesoranges> TeamRocket1233c: really? where are you from Sahara desert?
[01:50] <f3ck4r> nooblikesor: lol
[01:50] <TeamRocket1233c> nooblikesoranges: Lawton, OK.
[01:50] <pangolin> nooblikesoranges, TeamRocket1233c Please join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat and keep this channel support related only
[01:51] <TeamRocket1233c> nooblikesoranges: Might as well be the Sahara, this town sucks!
[01:51] <nooblikesoranges> okay sorry
[01:51] <nooblikesoranges> ps is there an irc command to talk to a single person?
[01:51] <TeamRocket1233c> Sorry 'bout that.
[01:51] <faryshta> nooblikesoranges, /msg
[01:51] <TeamRocket1233c> nooblikesoranges: And /q.
[01:52] <daniel> There is any way to select the predetermined app to open files with some extension?
[01:52] <EsoRottica> right click properties, open with, set as default
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesapples: /msg name message
[01:53] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: Neither, it compares contents.
[01:53] <daniel> EsoRottica, thanks
[01:54] <daniel> do anyone know any app similar to foobar2000?
[01:55] <nooblikesbananas> Wow, what is happening? I couldnt send to channel hash ubuntu but I could read
[01:55] <nooblikesbananas> also, did you guys get the messages I sent?
[01:55] <f3ck4r> daniel: banshee?!
[01:55] <EsoRottica> yeah, banshee!
[01:55] <Xabster> nooblikesbananas, how would we know if we got everything you sent?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> daniel: looks like gnome-mplayer to me
[01:55] <nooblikesbananas> weird
[01:56] <nooblikesbananas> Xabster: what?
[01:56] <nicmcginnis> Hi, sorry to butt in on the conversation, but I'm very new to Ubuntu and I'm wondering if someone could help me with Rhythmbox.
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> nooblikesbananas: yes I got it
[01:56] <nooblikesbananas> oh
[01:56] <nooblikesbananas> k ty
[01:56] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G for the night, I'll BBT. Bye!  -wave-
[01:56] <nooblikesbananas> BB
[01:56] <f3ck4r> nicmcginnis: what's the deal
[01:57] <nicmcginnis> F3ck4r: Well, it keeps telling me there are 'missing files.'
[01:57] <nicmcginnis> I add them one day, and they are 'missing' the next.
[01:57] <f3ck4r> maybe is the jpg files that come with the mp3 as well
[01:58] <f3ck4r> or could be the mp3 files in a driver that you need to mount
[01:58] <KDEvsGNOME> anybody knows a good angry birds like game on ubuntu?
[01:58] <nicmcginnis> "Mount"?
[01:59] <nicmcginnis> (noobness level = over 9000)
[01:59] <faryshta> KDEvsGNOME, warmux.
[01:59] <Shojo> lol, that's a phone game:)
[02:00] <faryshta> KDEvsGNOME, I think you can install AB on chrome.
[02:00] <f3ck4r> yeah mount, meaning that the files should be in a diff hdd
[02:01] <f3ck4r> hdd = hard drive
[02:01] <Jordan_U> KDEvsGNOME: http://chrome.angrybirds.com , also since Angry Birds uses box2d you may look into other games which also use box2d for physics.
[02:01] <zykotick9> KDEvsGNOME: Shojo the windows version of AG works in wine
[02:02] <fabio> i have an rfid reader with a cable with serial and a usb
[02:02] <fabio> but when i do dmesg or lsusb
[02:02] <fabio> nothing appears
[02:02] <nicmcginnis> f3ck4r: So I think the problem is that when I originally added the files to the playlist, the HDD was identified with some name, and now it bears another upon reboot, and keeps changing? Could that be?
[02:02] <Shojo> zykotick9: AG?
[02:02] <nooblikesbananas> wow my firefox button is gone
[02:02] <zykotick9> Shojo: angry birds
[02:02] <fabio> i have both connected
[02:03] <rasusto> fabio: did you dmesg | tail
[02:03] <rmg3> @search pink floyd
[02:03] <no-name-> hi. I have a GeForce 7025 and have the current drivers from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, yet games are much slower on Ubuntu than Windows 7. I'm running 10.04 x64
[02:03] <f3ck4r> nicmcginnis: could, but this is cuz it is a diff hdd that why he appears to missing the files.
[02:03] <Shojo> isn't that AB? anyways, i was just saying it's a game to play when nothing else to do, i guess a computer can have more interesting things on it:)
[02:03] <nicmcginnis> A different hdd from what, though?
[02:03] <faryshta>  /join #hentai
[02:03] <faryshta> lol
[02:04] <faryshta> sorry
[02:04] <f3ck4r> lol
[02:04] <no-name-> lol
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: what version of the driver are you running?
[02:04] <f3ck4r> meaning that the mp3 files should be in another hdd and the hdd should be mounted first then the player will recgonize the location of the files
[02:04] <fabio> rasusto: yes
[02:04] <KDEvsGNOME> I get it, what about plants vs zombies
[02:05] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: it just says "version current"
[02:05] <zykotick9> KDEvsGNOME: it works in wine
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: run:  nvidia-settings    what version?
[02:05] <nicmcginnis> Okay, thanks. Umm. (I've been using windows for years. I'm so sorry to be clueless at this.) What does 'mount' a hdd mean? How do I do it?
[02:05] <rinzler> I have a lynksys wmp11v4 wifi PCMCIA adapter that I'm using with 11.10. Every time I reboot, ndiswrapper looses the ability to control my card and I need to uninstall the driver and reinstall to get the card working again. How can I keep this from happening?
[02:05] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: NVIDIA Driver Version: 195.36.24
[02:05] <f3ck4r> mount is a command line to mount a diff hdd on the system
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: if you run: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper     does it work ok?
[02:06] <f3ck4r> open your file manager
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: bit old, uninstall the driver and run this command
[02:06] <Xabster> nicmcginnis, it means to enable it and map it is a drive letter (or description)... kind of like you mount an .iso in windows
[02:06] <hugenumbers> nicmcginnis dose your backround populate with the hdd containing the media files
[02:06] <nicmcginnis> So, wait, whenever I boot, I need to tell Ubuntu to recognize all my HDs manually?
[02:06] <f3ck4r> nope
[02:07] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: It doesn't output anything. Just gives me another $
[02:07] <Xabster> You can do it automatically, nicmcginnis, but yes, you need to do something to make Ubuntu see them for the first time
[02:07] <aarossig> Hey all, I just updated my server from 10.04 to 11.10 along with a hardware refresh and more HD's... I'm having a problem with network file transfers. If I use sshfs or samba... the network will almost "die" for brief amounts of time and then come back. Any ideas?
[02:07] <f3ck4r> u don't need to do it manually u can do it by open the file manager and click on it
[02:07] <Xabster> is that not manually, f3ck4r?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:07] <f3ck4r> hehehe
[02:07] <nicmcginnis> So I only should have to "mount" them once, and after that, Ubuntu will see them?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: that means it worked, does the device work ok now?
[02:08] <f3ck4r> Xabster: partiall manually
[02:08] <aarossig> with sshfs, the cpu usage goes to 0 for a while and then suddenly jumps back up and the file transfer continues as usual
[02:08] <nicmcginnis> Once again, sorry everyone, I am very, very new at this.
[02:08] <f3ck4r> D;
[02:08] <zykotick9> nicmcginnis: fstab is used to make mounts permanent
[02:08] <f3ck4r> ntsf3g-config do it
[02:08] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: uhm. yes, oh great magician of the internetz. what the heck just happened??
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: the module isn't loading at boot
[02:09] <nicmcginnis> zykotick9: I'm looking at the fstab wiki page. It tells me I need to edit a file with a bunch of code in it/
[02:09] <rinzler> so would running that command at login work for me?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: you can make it autoload with:   echo "ndiswrapper" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:09] <nicmcginnis> Is there a GUI version?
[02:09] <zykotick9> !fstab | nicmcginnis
[02:09] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: ahh. Thanks!!
[02:10] <hugenumbers> nicmcginnnis there is a gui version
[02:10] <zykotick9> nicmcginnis: i'm not sure there is a GUI method, good luck
[02:10] <nicmcginnis> Thanks. Wow. I think I might have to go back to windows. I really don't understand any of this.
[02:11] <Xabster> nicmcginnis, I'm probably as new as you are and I went to startup applications and made 2 entries, 1 for each drive with the command to mount them
[02:11] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: rebooting for test...
[02:11] <Xabster> not sure this is a correct way to do it, but it works
[02:11] <f3ck4r> Xabster: manually right ;D
[02:12] <Xabster> yes i did something manually
[02:12] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: Success!! Thanks!
[02:12] <nicmcginnis> Xabster: I'm looking up how to do that, thanks
[02:13] <f3ck4r> nicmcginnis: the file manager do the trick
[02:13] <nicmcginnis> I just need to figure out that the command is, I guess
[02:13] <Xabster> nicmcginnis, this is the command to mount my D-drive: udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
[02:13] <Xabster> and nicmcginnis, this is my E: udisks --mount /dev/sdc1
[02:14] <Xabster> nicmcginnis, I don't remember how to find out what the drives are called
[02:14] <Xabster> goodnight
[02:14] <nicmcginnis> Xabster: thanks for the help dude.
[02:14] <Xabster> no problems
[02:14] <rinzler> why does ubuntu think that having numlock on is a bad thing. I'm on a desktop machine, and I would like numlock to be on automatically. is there a way to remove the warning and/or make it boot with numlock on?
[02:14] <hugenumbers> does udisks come install in ubuntu 11.10
[02:15] <Karmaon> why does my lvm encrypted hard drive not show up as a device?
[02:15] <Karmaon> i'm trying to install grub on it because the alt-cd was not succesful
[02:15] <Karmaon> i have the live cd on now
[02:15] <nicmcginnis> I'm googling around. Should I just try instlaling Storage Device Manager?
[02:16] <hugenumbers> nicmcginnis if you have udisks you can run udisks --dump... or run a gui like storage device manager
[02:16] <nicmcginnis> The internet tells me to "click" on the drive in the "places" menu to "mount" it, but Rhythmbox is still telling me all my files are missing... I think because the playlist is pointing to a location with a different name, though it is supposed ot be the same HDD....
[02:17] <nicmcginnis> Like one time this HD was called sdb1 or something, and now I've rebotted and the same harddrive is now sdc1, and everything is all messed up...
[02:18] <CmdrButlh> got a question guys whats the bash command to install groups of software like yum groupinstall on RH
[02:18] <hugenumbers> nicmcginnis if you have to have the hdd automatically mount at boot
[02:18] <kevdog> apt command?
[02:18] <CmdrButlh> yes I'm trying to script
[02:18] <fabio> i got an joystick connected via usb. I want to know what happens when i press a button
[02:18] <fabio> how to see what string is sent to pc?
[02:19] <kevdog> wish I knee
[02:19] <kevdog> knew
[02:19] <fabio> i did lsusb
[02:19] <CmdrButlh> kevdog for example if I wanted to install all the programs in the games category all at once
[02:19] <fabio> and gives me Bus 002 Device 010: ID 0079:0006 DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick
[02:19] <Jordan_U> Karmaon:  Do you have an unencrypted /boot?
[02:19] <nicmcginnis> hugenumbers: yeah, I just have no idea how to get things to automount, and I don't understand the help pages. :( I don't know what a 'mount point' is or what 'file system' I am using.
[02:20] <zykotick9> fabio: you could try xev (not sure it'll work though)
[02:20] <kevdog> @CmdrButlh: Wish I knew -- I've never thought about doing something that
[02:20] <CmdrButlh> cr4ap
[02:20] <nicmcginnis> hugenumbers: I can't apologize enough for my cluelessness. I'm coming from a decade of windows holding my hand.
[02:20] <rinzler> xchat is not launching. blank window flashes up, but nothing is loaded. any ideas?
[02:21] <fabio> zykotick9:  can you explain me how it works?
[02:21] <f3ck4r> nicmcginnis: just go to applications and files then click on the drive list and it should be mount manually.
[02:21] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Can I sync my iCloud Calendar with Ubuntu?
[02:21] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: late to the game, but what's the problem? A mount point is a "directory" where you are going to tell something to mount -- instead of c: it would be like /media/c or /c or any other directory you want to specify
[02:22] <zykotick9> fabio: type "xev" then try pressing a button on your joystick, and see if it's outputs the character sent in the xev window/terminal
[02:23] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: You can setup things like USB sticks, or remote directories on different computers to auto mount at boot by modifying the fstab file
[02:23] <fabio> zykotick9:  not works
[02:23] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: Hi... I have this problem where I imported my media into Rhythmbox, but now it tells my all my files are missing. I tried 'mounting' the HDs by clicking on them in the 'places' menu, but I think Ubuntu is assigning different names to the HDs when I boot, because they are still 'missing'. Though I can see them in the file manager. :P
[02:23] <zykotick9> fabio: sorry.  i don't have any other suggestions.
[02:23] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: The fstab file is waaay above my paygrade, lol. I don't understand a single word on the help pages.
[02:23] <zykotick9> fabio: are you sure the joystick is working?
[02:24] <fabio> zykotick9: yes
[02:24] <zykotick9> fabio: ok, no other suggestions - good luck.
[02:24] <fabio> ty
[02:25] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Working with Rhythmbox is like above my paygrade.  Your hard drive partitions shouldn't be assigned different names however
[02:26] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: haha, fair enough. I just want a stable playlist, because scanning every time I open up the program for 15k files takes forever.... I'm experimenting with Ubuntu instead of paying for windows7, so we'll see...
[02:26] <faryshta> Is there a way to set a continuous mouse click on ubuntu?
[02:26] <kevdog> Let me try to fire up Rhthmbox and see what happens -- hold on -- I'm going to see if I can do this remotely from an x server over ssh
[02:27] <ILoveUbuntu> i installed classic gnome but i cant find gconf-editor
[02:27] <zykotick9> ILoveUbuntu: dconf-something maybe?
[02:27] <xangua> ILoveUbuntu: clasic gnome != gnome2 , gconf-editor is discontinued and not dconf-editor is used
[02:29] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: logged in but I gotta install rhythmbox from repository -- so give me a bit
[02:29] <jerkchicken> can i edit scripts with "less"? i need an editor that can scroll horizontally
[02:30] <ILoveUbuntu> i get an error when i rud dconf-editor too
[02:30] <kevdog> jerkchicken: I think less is like more -- really doesn't do edititing.  Do you need a terminal editor or gui?
[02:30] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: oh man, it's okay, you shouldn't go through the bother... I'm pretty sure it is because the playlist data is pointing to the 'wrong' hdd name and I need to make the HDD names stable somehow...
[02:30] <jerkchicken> kevdog, terminal editor
[02:31] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: but the 'usual' ways are too hackerly for my miserable skills...
[02:31] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: hold on -- this really should be that hard to do
[02:31] <kevdog> jerkchicken: Can you just increase the width of your terminal box?
[02:32] <jerkchicken> kevdog, no. my terminal is on a phone
[02:32] <kevdog> jerkchicken: I only use vim of vi from the terminal b/c I'm really stupid
[02:33] <kevdog> jerkchicken; Are you using connectbot or terminal emulator?
[02:33] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Ok I got the rhythmbox fired up
[02:33] <jlkkljh> does anybody know how to do an official install/the web site for downloading ???????????????
[02:33] <jerkchicken> kevdog, bbssh on my blackberry
[02:34] <xangua> jlkkljh: ubuntu.com is the official site
[02:34] <jerkchicken> kevdog, then i start irssi for irc. not on it now though
[02:34] <jlkkljh> ive tried it wont take live cd/or usb
[02:34] <kevdog> jerkchicken: Can't help you on that one
[02:34] <faryshta> Is there a way to set a continuous mouse click on ubuntu?
[02:34] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Are you trying to import a folder or what?
[02:35] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: No, I imported all my folders, and upon reboot, I get this error that all the files are missing.
[02:36] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Where did you import all the music too? What folder?
[02:36] <no-name-> ActionParsnip: I put that command in and have restarted but now things are even slower. When I run nvidia-settings I get a message box saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.", but when I run sudo nvidia-xconfig I get sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[02:37] <jlkkljh> actionparsnip: i was talking to you earlier i think but got disconnected
[02:37] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: Well, I had an existing HD from a previous computer. It already had a directory structure, so I just asked rhythmbox to look at a the folders therein. It took about an hour, but it imported all the media and I could listen to it. Then I rebooted and it lists all the files in the playlist, but says it can't find them.
[02:38] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: ....even after I 'mounted' the HD in question./
[02:39] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: how did you mount the hard-drive?  and what is the file system type? windows-ntfs? or linux-ext3,ext4,etc?
[02:39] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: I mounted it by clicking on the HD in the "places" drop-down menu. I guess it is windows-ntfs because it is from an old windows box.
[02:41] <jlkkljh> actionparsnip: i think i was talking to u earlier
[02:41] <kevdog> nicmcginnis -- Ok -- so you can read the files -- this is good.  Do you know how to use pastebin?  I want you to post the contents of your /etc/fstab file
[02:42] <nicmcginnis> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[02:42] <nicmcginnis> #
[02:42] <nicmcginnis> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[02:42] <nicmcginnis> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[02:42] <nicmcginnis> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[02:42] <FloodBot1> nicmcginnis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <nicmcginnis> #
[02:43] <EsoRottica> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 x64, I've installed Flgrx and what I believe to be the latest Catalyst driver, 12.2. Everything appears to be working in the way of the driver, however my card runs at 90C. The card im running is an ATI Radeon HD 5770, Juniper XT. Due to the high temperatures my fan appears to run at 71-85% constantly [18:46] <EsoRottica> I've searched extensively and read most the the stuff at cchtml, but to no avail. if an
[02:43] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Just paste a link to where you pasted the contents of the file within pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <EsoRottica> kevdog he hasnt joind back yet.
[02:44] <jlkkljh> is there anybody out there that can help we install kubuntu???
[02:45] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901515/
[02:45] <jlkkljh> help please
[02:45] <EsoRottica> jlkkljh go to ubuntu software center and search for kubuntu desktop
[02:46] <EsoRottica> install, log out, then click the box net to password to load the enviornment
[02:46] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: You're learning -- I see your device as /dev/sdb1 --  can you paste the results of the command mount in the same vain
[02:46] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: what is the 'command mount'?
[02:47] <kevdog> Type mount in the terminal and paste what it outputs
[02:47] <jlkkljh> ok i downloaded unbuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386 iso
[02:47] <jlkkljh> and wouldnt boot it
[02:47] <EsoRottica> I'm sorry, are you trying to install linux or a linux desktop envornment?
[02:48] <nicmcginnis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/901517/
[02:48] <EsoRottica> Waht operating system are you using to create the thumbdrive?
[02:49] <jlkkljh> im trying to load an iso from usb
[02:49] <EsoRottica> okay, from what operating system?
[02:49] <kevdog> nicmcginnis -- Let me take a minute to digest this
[02:49] <jlkkljh> it wouldnt detect the iso
[02:49] <jlkkljh> win wp
[02:49] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: thanks for the assistance. I really appreciate your time.
[02:49] <jlkkljh> xp
[02:50] <teage> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <teage> dang
[02:50] <jlkkljh> EsoRottica are u there
[02:50] <teage> am i doin it wrong guys?
[02:51] <teage> #offtopic
[02:52] <kevdog> nicmcginnis -- It looks like right now the drive is mounted under /media/sdb1  -- Can you confirm this?
[02:53] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: It also looks like along the way, someone or somebody or some program made a modification to the /etc/fstab file so this driver would mount at boot -- its line 13 in the file
[02:54] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: Sure, how do I go about confirming that?
[02:54] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Here is a list of commands (separated by commas): cd /media/sdb1, ls
[02:55] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: yeah at some point I tried installing pysdm or storave device manager on advice of the internet...
[02:56] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Ok no problem -- I use something very similar but I just make the modifications to the file by hand (and make comments in the file so I remember how to do it the next time)
[02:56] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: "bash: cd: /media/sdb1,: No such file or directory"
[02:56] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Ok no problem -- sdb1 (no space)
[02:56] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: cd /media/sdb1
[02:57] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: nicmcginnis@nicmcginnis-desktop:/media/sdb1$
[02:57] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Ok -- good, just do a ls to "list" the contents of the directory
[02:57] <kevdog> ls
[02:59] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: it lists the contents of the drive I had dubbed 'tencathalong' in my windows days
[03:00] <willijs3> Hello all!
[03:00] <KM0201> o/
[03:00] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Ok that's good
[03:02] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: an example of a file path that rhythmbox lists as missing is "/media/TENCATHALONG/MUSIC/Mp3s - Random/SONGS/cdrom"
[03:02] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: If you look at line 13 again -- you can see this drive is mounted with permissions of ro which means read only.  You might or might not want this
[03:03] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: probably don't.
[03:03] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Ok the path is wrong in the first place -- it should be /media/sdb1/.........
[03:03] <willijs3> anyone know how I can change the default settings of synclient on a reboot? Adding script to rc.local works on startup, and after doing some research, I created a script and added it to the rc0.d folder, but it's not working for me. Any ideas?
[03:04] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: should I just uninstall rhythmbox and re-load the playlist and hope the path stays stable?
[03:04] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: I'm no expert on this area, but lets just take this from the top.  That just means a few modifications to a few files -- that's it.  Let just first install the ntfs-3g package that is going to give you read/write capabilities
[03:04] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[03:05] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: aight, I trust ya :P
[03:05] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: That's some trust
[03:06] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: I see 'sudo' and immediately think of all those irc screenshots where people ask the clueless noobs (i.e., people like me!) to delete system32 or whatever :D
[03:06] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: seriously though THANK YOU.
[03:06] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: One that's installed -- lets edit the /etc/fstab file ---> gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[03:06] <nicmcginnis> "ntfs is already the newest version..." good!
[03:07] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: ntfs-3g
[03:07] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: okay, I'm in. I feel like trinity in the matrix.
[03:07] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Hardly
[03:07] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: well, it's fun to pretend.
[03:08] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: I'm looking at fstab now
[03:09] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: comment out line 13 -- meaning put a # in front of the line so if all else fails you can revert --- and I think you chose the red pill because you didn't make a backup copy of the fstab file before doing this
[03:09] <nicmcginnis> uh, should I make a backup copy?
[03:09] <EsoRottica> he could always create the directory TENCATHALONG in media, then tell fstab to mount the partition, there, volia
[03:09] <AirborneCalavry> hey i need help in updating my ubuntu 11.10, I wont let me and apt-get wont work
[03:10] <EsoRottica> no need to fix the directory from within rythmbox.
[03:10] <kevdog> nicmginnis: rule of thumb -- whenever some schmoo like me in the forums or irc tells you to mess with any system file -- the answer would be yes make a backup -- sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[03:11] <malkauns> how do u make conky always-on-top?
[03:11] <kevdog> EsoRottica: He could probably make a symbolic link however I think he want to make the ntfs partition read-writeable as a baseline
[03:11] <Seppoz> im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop
[03:11] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: haha, word to the wise, indeed. This is literally my, what, 4th day running ubuntu? After running ms software since the 90s...
[03:11] <EsoRottica> I was going to suggest that as well :)
[03:11] <AirborneCalavry> Hi, i need help in updating my ubuntu 11.10, I wont let me and apt-get wont work
[03:11] <KM0201> Seppoz: whats the problem?
[03:11] <Seppoz> im only getting that windows that lets me select weather to install or use
[03:11] <Seppoz> and its white
[03:12] <KM0201> ATI>
[03:12] <KM0201> ?
[03:12] <Seppoz> i think so yes
[03:12] <KM0201> hmm
[03:12] <kevdog> nicmginnis: anyway proceeding on: /dev/sdb1 /media/c/ ntfs-3g defaults,user,locale=en_US.utf8
[03:12] <KM0201> is there a "safe graphics" mode... in the menu?
[03:13] <kevdog> nicmginnis: Make sure that the directory /media/c exists -- T
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: may want to addd 0 0    on the end
[03:13] <AirborneCalavry> anyone free?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: also may want to use UUID rather than /dev/whateve
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> AirborneCalavry: ask away
[03:13] <AirborneCalavry> i need help in updating my ubuntu 11.10, I wont let me and apt-get wont work
[03:14] <KM0201> AirborneCalavry: what have you tried?
[03:14] <kevdog> nicmginnis:Ok and add 0 0 on the end as well -- and yeah you could use UUID if you are moving your drives around but if that's happening who cares
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> AirborneCalavry: can you use http://pastie.org   and give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:14] <Seppoz> KM0201: i dont see anything its just a white bopx
[03:14] <Seppoz> let me see what the gpu is 1 sec
[03:14] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: sorry, this is going a little too fast now...
[03:14] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: what line should I be modifying?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> AirborneCalavry: be sure that software centre / synaptic is not open and packages are not installinf
[03:14] <KM0201> Seppoz: i'm talking about when you first boot the cd/usb.. in the menu... is there an option for "safe graphics"
[03:14] <Seppoz> its just booting how to see the options
[03:15] <Seppoz> its Nvidia Geforce 8200M
[03:15] <Seppoz> no ATI
[03:15] <KM0201> hmm
[03:16] <KM0201> one would think that would work fine
[03:16] <KM0201> Nvidia usually "just works"
[03:16] <Seppoz> how to eneter the boot menue?
[03:16] <Fyodorovna> KM0201, tap the shift at powering on for that first gui hit f6 choose nomodeset.
[03:17] <KM0201> Fyodorovna: was just typing that.... Seppoz do what Fyodorovna said
[03:17] <EsoRottica> ActionParsnip: how about this one? I'm running an HD 5770 with FLgrx installed and my temp is at 90C
[03:17] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: i mind "hold shift after bios" is typically an easier suggestion.  Seppoz
[03:17] <zykotick9> s/mind/find/
[03:18] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: I can see I'm getting a lot of opinions on the forums (multiple ways to skin a cat), add this to line 14 of the file: /dev/sdb1 /media/c/ ntfs-3g defaults,user,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: is that a good temp, i've no idea
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Seppoz: did you instal the proprietary driver?
[03:19] <Seppoz> im suppose to enable nomodeset
[03:19] <Seppoz> now do i do that
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Seppoz: add:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Seppoz: as a boot option
[03:19] <EsoRottica> ActionParsnip: 90 ºC = 194 ºF90 ºC = 194 ºF
[03:19] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: oooookay.
[03:19] <curiousx> too high temp
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: yes, but is it an ok level?
[03:20] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Make sure that /media/c exists if not create it: sudo mkdir -p /media/c
[03:20] <EsoRottica> ActionParsnip: Absolutely not. :) I do believe i just suffered a thermal shutdown
[03:20] <curiousx> but if its a nvidia gtx 590 and you r playing for example BF3 is common
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: I see, I've not used Ati, I always use nvidia so am not much use
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: which release are you using?
[03:21] <EsoRottica> ActionParsnip: catalyst 12.2
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: which release of ubuntu
[03:21] <EsoRottica> curiousx: this is an idle temperature.
[03:21] <EsoRottica> ActionParsnip: sorry, 11.1
[03:21] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: done that too
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: could try Precise liveCD, see how it is
[03:21] <curiousx> EsoRottica: you should install 12.2
[03:22] <EsoRottica> ActionParsnip: thats 12.4?
[03:22] <curiousx> its a ATI graphic card ?
[03:22] <EsoRottica> curiousx: yea, i have catalyst 12.2, i was talking about Oneiric to Action
[03:22] <curiousx> an*
[03:22] <curiousx> ok
[03:22] <kevdog> nicmcginnis: Although you don't really have to do this step: meaning you could do it other ways -- but just for brevity sake -- reboot, then come back on irc.
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: yes Precise == 12.04
[03:23] <EsoRottica> curiousx: yea, its an HD 5770, I have the proper version of everything installed to the best of my knowledge.
[03:23] <nicmcginnis> kevdog: kk
[03:23] <willijs3> anyone know how I can change the default settings of synclient on a reboot? Adding script to rc.local works on startup, and after doing some research, I created a script and added it to the rc0.d folder, but it's not working for me. Any ideas?
[03:23] <thiebaude> EsoRottica: you have an Acer laptop?
[03:23] <EsoRottica> curiousx: the best excuse I've head so far is that having multiple monitors may not allow flgrx to switch powerstates
[03:24] <EsoRottica> thiebaude: no, this is a desktop.
[03:24] <thiebaude> ahh ok
[03:24] <curiousx> yep that could be the reazon
[03:24] <EsoRottica> curiousx: you've had a similar experience?
[03:24] <thiebaude> desktop is nvidia and laptop is ati with the catalyst drivers
[03:25]  * thiebaude nothing like nvidia imho
[03:25] <EsoRottica> .....
[03:25] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I'm having trouble mounting a hard drive at boot time that mounts fine after boot.  Please see my notes at http://wiki.thekramers.net/Main/JanusHardDriveProblem
[03:25] <curiousx> nop, but also heard some like that
[03:26] <EsoRottica> ATi was beautiful on Windows for an eyefinity setup. That was the deciding factor, productivity with 3 monitors was nice.
[03:26] <curiousx> sry i dont able to help ya =(
[03:26] <kevdog> willijs3: why not add it to /etc/rc.local?
[03:27] <epaphus> Hey guys.. when I do last -n 10 .. what does this mean?reboot   system boot  2.6.32-220.2.1.e Mon Mar 26 16:37 - 21:15  (04:38)   there is a time range of 4 hours.. is it because the server took 4 hours to boot.. or uptime or what...?
[03:28] <willijs3> kevdog it's already in there. It just doesn't work on a reboot. It will work if I shut down and press the power button to boot, but not a reboot.
[03:29] <kevdog> willijs3: weird, so a cold boot, but not a reboot
[03:30] <willijs3> kevdog correct. I can't figure it out. I saw on a few forums that others had the same problem, but nobody had a solution. I figured I'd try here
[03:31] <Seppoz> just for the record
[03:31] <kevdog> willijs3: I'm just going to throw out a crazy idea -- probably going to get shot down by the peanut gallery -- however you could try calling your script from a udev startup script
[03:31] <Seppoz> nomodeset with F6 works out
[03:33] <willijs3> kevdog Eh, i'll give it a shot. doesn't hurt to try.
[03:33] <kevdog> willijs3: all the udev startup scripts are kept in /etc/init
[03:33] <KM0201> Seppoz: good
[03:33] <willijs3> ok.
[03:33] <Seppoz> thank you guys for the help
[03:33] <Seppoz> i think im in a kind of fallback mode now
[03:33] <Seppoz> do i have to install nvidia drivers now?
[03:33] <kevdog> willijs3: I've only written one to start my firewall script at boot -- so I'm no expert, but it was pretty easy and it works as best as I can tell
[03:34] <KM0201> Seppoz: are you booting an install, or are you on a live cd/live usb?
[03:34] <KM0201> if you're on a live version.. you won't be able to install the graphics drivers, you'll have to do an actual install, then install the drivers... the nomodeset is just to get the live cd working, then you may need to use it to get an install working, then install the nvidia drivers, and you shouldn't need it
[03:34] <kevdog> willijs3: I can post my script if you want, but my advice would be the following:  pop open a few of the other udev script (they are all labeled .conf) within gedit or something -- it will give you a variety of the syntax
[03:35] <willijs3> I'll give it a shot. thanks for the help
[03:35] <Seppoz> im instaling right now
[03:35] <Vert> How do i list what files, and where a given package installed?
[03:35] <KM0201> Seppoz: just pay attention on your partitioning
[03:35] <willijs3> I have one open now. I'm still new at this, so it'll be a learning process :)
[03:35] <kevdog> willijs3: I also consulted the udev manual on line that actually was quite readable.
[03:36] <zykotick9> Vert: "dpkg -L PACKAGENAME" perhaps?
[03:36] <Seppoz> why?
[03:36] <kevdog> willijs3: If you want I can post mine - its really simple and just runs a script that loads all my firewall rules into iptables
[03:36] <KM0201> Seppoz: because, you don't want to accidentally nuke windows
[03:36] <KM0201> lol
[03:36] <Seppoz> thats EXACTLY what i want man
[03:36] <Seppoz> NUKE WINDOWS!
[03:36] <KM0201> Seppoz: are you sure?
[03:36] <willijs3> kevdog I'll definitely hit that up too. If you want to put it up, i'd love to look at it
[03:36] <thiebaude> lol
[03:36] <thiebaude> :)
[03:36] <Vert> zykotick9: perfect thanks
[03:36] <Seppoz> 100% sir
[03:36] <KM0201> Seppoz: as new as you are, thats not a good idea.. dual boot for a while.. or you'll be reinstalling windows by the end of the week
[03:37] <Seppoz> im not new i just didnt know hot to get that szuff working lol
[03:37] <KM0201> oh ok
[03:37] <Seppoz> im suing it for like 5 years now
[03:37] <Seppoz> just not on that laptop
[03:37] <EsoRottica> I nuked windows... entirely. It made me happy.
[03:38] <willijs3> me too!
[03:38] <KM0201> EsoRottica: i've done it many times
[03:38] <Seppoz> i bet!
[03:38] <thiebaude> i cant til i do
[03:38] <Seppoz> its one of that magic moments right xDD
[03:38] <KM0201> i wasn't saying "don't" do it... just saying if you're new (which i thought he was) it's best to dual boot for a while
[03:38] <kevdog> http://paste.ubuntu.com/901560/
[03:38] <thiebaude> darn netflix,lol
[03:38] <Seppoz> i absolutely agree KM0201
[03:38] <EsoRottica> I was sick of it. he has another box, with ubuntu virtualized in it though.
[03:39] <Seppoz> i also got a windows laptop but i took the decition that i can do all i want for work on linux that is
[03:39] <Seppoz> i was using it long time in VM
[03:39] <EsoRottica> its taken me... amost 4 months, and finally there is something i jsut cant seem to figure out... FLgrx, xorg and my GPU temp
[03:39] <Seppoz> but no reason not to go bare
[03:39] <bonks> Is it possible to install ubuntu server with a 256MB usb drive onto the system's harddrive? I don't have a cdrom for the system that's why.
[03:39] <Seppoz> xorg is just the WM
[03:39] <willijs3> kevdog got it. It seems simple enough
[03:40] <willijs3> probably not though:)
[03:40] <EsoRottica> I'm with ya..
[03:40] <Seppoz> bonks: see if ubunto offeres network install
[03:40] <kevdog> Why anyone would want to nuke windows is beyond me?  I'm not saying I'm a fanboy of windows, but does anybody else work in the real world where everybody else uses Windows and you mailed all the proprietary files only windows can open
[03:40] <Seppoz> bonks: and use the programms that ubunto refere to to flash it on usb key
[03:41] <bonks> Seppoz: thanks i'll check that out
[03:41] <thiebaude> kevdog: i keep it in case i need it
[03:41] <EsoRottica> Kevdog, dont programd adhearing to the ODF all work?!
[03:41] <Seppoz> bonks: 256 might be a bit small tho not sure if that works out
[03:41] <willijs3> kevdog: I've got a second laptop for just that purpose. But in order to learn something new, i had to jump in head first
[03:42] <Seppoz> bonks: the hard drive is bigger right?
[03:42] <kevdog> willijs3: its easy, the start on, stop on and exec statement are really the only lines that are needed -- the other stuff is either fluff or respawn lines (starts service again in case it suddenly dies unexpectedly)
[03:42] <bonks> Seppoz: Yes, the harddrive is 80gb, but i don't have any cdrom or spare flash drives to use
[03:42] <EsoRottica> I recently sat in a Windows enviornment with an HP touchpad (Running ubuntu) and managed a sharepoint install :)
[03:42] <kevdog> Newest Excel Format will not open in libre office for me
[03:43] <MontanaMan> Hey there...
[03:44] <kevdog> Seems like what I do usually is use my windows computer -- and with the help of xming and ssh, get into my linux box that way
[03:44] <Seppoz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:44] <MontanaMan> Everything else went well with my install except for the sound aspect of my Laptop
[03:44] <Seppoz> that one maybe
[03:45] <reasearcher123> I have set Login automatically for Administrative account.I get  message "Enter password to unlock your login keyring The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer."When I unlock the PC starts.But I cant set password for this user. What to do?
[03:45] <MontanaMan> Can't seem to get it up and running.  From what I've seen, it's got a generic driver for the built in sound
[03:45] <willijs3> kevdog: I'm gonna go play around with this for a while. Thanks again for the help
[03:45] <KM0201> MontanaMan: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol
[03:45] <Seppoz> KM0201: is there something like nomodeset for the system? its installed bt when booting the screen stays black /mouse is there, backlight is on)
[03:45] <KM0201> Seppoz: i believe you have to add it to the grub entry for that kernel
[03:46] <Seppoz> is there a way to do that from the installed syste?
[03:46] <Seppoz> like a safe mode
[03:46] <KM0201> you have to add the entry to grub... from the grub menu
[03:46] <kevdog> willijs3: Don't overthink it -- its really easy.  The start on line is probably the trickiest since it wont start the service unless the dependencies are already started.  If you don't know what services your script depends on, you might have to look either at documentation, other examples, and just take a wild guesss
[03:47] <KM0201> Seppoz: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[03:47] <MontanaMan> I went to the terminal and got the package installed... still no sound
[03:48] <KM0201> MontanaMan: go to the dashboard, and do a search for pulseaudio volume control
[03:49] <MontanaMan> Volume 100%
[03:49] <MontanaMan> Standby
[03:49] <Vipp3r> is there any more rooms  besides this one im new on here?
[03:50] <KM0201> Vipp3r: #ubuntu-offtopic  it's for offtopic bantering
[03:50] <jenn_> kevdog: still here
[03:50] <MontanaMan> back...  Sound configuration checks out... still no sound
[03:50] <MontanaMan> rates
[03:50] <MontanaMan> rats
[03:51] <Seppoz> KM0201: whats the apt-get command for nvidia drivers
[03:51] <KM0201> Seppoz: um, not sure to be truthful, i always just use the additional driver manager
[03:51] <kevdog> yep
[03:51] <KM0201> MontanaMan: what do you have as your settings on the "configuration" tab
[03:51] <kevdog> soundblaster on linux --- sucks!!
[03:51] <jenn_> kevdog this is nicmcginnis from another computer
[03:52] <jenn_> everything is broken man
[03:52] <jenn_> system won't boot :(
[03:52] <MontanaMan> Configuration: Internal Audio   Profile: Analog Stereo Output
[03:52] <kevdog> jenn_: Ok -- no worries --
[03:53] <kevdog> jenn_: Can you boot into recovery mode -- that way we can just manually change back the /etc/fstab file
[03:53] <KM0201> MontanaMan: try changing some options on the configuration tab
[03:53] <kevdog> jenn_: Or we could just swap back in the backup!
[03:53] <jenn_> kevdog: bios starts up, then a black screen
[03:53] <|Slacker|> Seppoz, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:53] <jenn_> kevdog: blinking cursor top left corner
[03:53] <kevdog> jenn_:What happens if you push f1
[03:53] <jenn_> kevdog: and nothing else
[03:54] <jenn_> kevdog: nada
[03:54] <jenn_> kevdog: I pulled out the laptop, installed IRC, came back
[03:54] <jenn_> kevdog: I can boot into my ubuntu CD, and it sees the harddrives
[03:54] <LinuxRants> MontanaMan, the easiest thing to do is just put an MP3 or something on repeat and mess with those settings until something comes out.
[03:54] <roasted> Question - I changed my default ssh port away from 22. Is it possible to use ssh-copy-id now? I'm not sure what flag to use.
[03:54] <Seppoz> KM0201: im in ubuntu now activating the driver thanks to your link!
[03:55] <KM0201> Seppoz: good news.. :)
[03:55] <Seppoz> indeed
[03:55] <kevdog> jenn_: Ok -- well you are in luck then -- can you just move the newly created file to some other file name and then restore or just copy the backup back to /etc/fstab?
[03:55] <jenn_> kevdog: I managed to change the fstab back the way it was using the "try ubuntu without installing" environment but it still won't work :(
[03:55] <Seppoz> first time i saw that.. must be the strange laptop gpus
[03:55] <_Tristan> I switched wireless cards in my laptop and now it won't work. It's seated properly, I think this card just needs a different driver. What should I do?
[03:55] <jenn_> I need to boot back into the environment, it will take a minute or two
[03:56] <Seppoz> install the firmware package
[03:56] <KM0201> _Tristan: what chipset is the wireless card? thats the first thing to figure out
[03:56] <Seppoz> _Tristan: install the firmare package of your vendow.. eg firmware-realtek or so on
[03:56] <Seppoz> *vendor
[03:56] <kevdog> jenn_: Usually a black screen means something wrong with the video adapter in my experience
[03:56] <jenn_> kevdog: that seems like an improbable coincidence
[03:57] <EsoRottica> kevdog: i think s/he said blinking cursor
[03:57] <jenn_> kevdog: besides, everything looks fine when I boot into "try out ubuntu" from the disk
[03:57] <kevdog> jenn_: Hmm, yea I gues you were right
[03:57] <zykotick9> jenn_: black screen on ubuntu is VERY common these days - typically nomodeset resolves, blinking cursor ususally means something else though
[03:57] <jenn_> kevdog: yeah it is my gf's laptop
[03:57] <jenn_> it is after I modified values in fstab
[03:58] <kevdog> jenn_: You need to make sure the ownership on the file of /etc/fstab is root root --> ls -la /etc/fstab
[03:58] <zykotick9> jenn_: that would makes sense with a blinking cursor
[03:58] <jenn_> returning them did not help.
[03:58] <MontanaMan> I've played with all the settings and have an MP3 playing in the background... not working :(
[03:58] <jenn_> okay soon as I can get to terminal again I will try
[03:58] <jenn_> shit I have to work in the morning :(
[03:58] <kevdog> jenn_: Is this mission critical?
[03:59] <jenn_> kevdog: Kinda, yeah.
[03:59] <kevdog> jenn_: ok
[03:59] <kevdog> DEFCON 1 - DESTRUCTION IS EMMINENT!
[03:59] <jenn_> okay, I'm in terminal from the ubuntu intall cd
[04:00] <MontanaMan> I guess I'm plum out of ideas.  Is there anything else I cound try?
[04:00] <jenn_> kevdog: how do I find out the path to etc\fstab?
[04:00] <roach> can someone hook me up with a ubuntu cloak?
[04:00] <kevdog> Its not /etc/fstab?
[04:00] <roach> please and thank you
[04:01] <LinuxRants> MontanaMan: Sorry, I came to the conversation late. What have you done already?
[04:01] <waxstone> jenn_,  cd  /etc/fstab
[04:01] <jenn_> kevdog: no, that points to the ubuntu installation cd's file
[04:01] <zykotick9> !cloak | roach
[04:01] <Error404NotFound> I am trying to build duplicity from source but its failing. http://pastie.org/3675878
[04:01] <jenn_> I need the one on the HD where my installed OS is
[04:01] <kevdog> jenn_: What does the mount command list?
[04:01] <jenn_> kedog: mount
[04:01] <jenn_> oops
[04:03] <jenn_> kevdog: I think the one I am after is /dev/sdb1 on /media/f530e869-170b-......
[04:03] <jenn_> kevdog: that's the UUID right
[04:03] <zykotick9> roach: fyi, for an ubuntu cloak, you need to be an ubuntu member, see "/msg ubottu member" for details
[04:03] <KM0201> jenn_: sudo blkid     that will tell you what the UUID is of the partition you want to mount
[04:03] <MontanaMan> LinuxRants: Installed PulseAudio control from the command prompt, fooled around with the settings a bit with an MP3 file playing in the background and still no sound
[04:03] <kevdog> jenn_: Just to be clear -- what's not booting -- windows or ubuntu?
[04:04] <roasted> err, I don't have an xchat icon and it's open. any idea?
[04:04] <jenn_> ubuntu
[04:04] <LinuxRants> MontanaMan: Hm, has it ever worked?
[04:04] <KM0201> roasted: you mean in your taskbar?
[04:04] <jenn_> there is no windows, it is not dual boot
[04:04] <roasted> KM0201, in the unity bar, yeah
[04:04] <roasted> KM0201, its open, I'm clearly using it, but no xchat icon
[04:04] <KM0201> oh, sorry
[04:04] <kevdog> jenn_: Your old UUID was this: f530e869-170b-422c-a03d-de1c47b7b6f0
[04:04] <KM0201> i don't do unity
[04:04] <MontanaMan> It's worked in Windows
[04:04] <MontanaMan> It hasn't worked in Linux
[04:04] <roasted> KM0201, I didn't either, till 12.04. (which I should probably be over there actually)
[04:04] <jenn_> kevdog: yes, typing the whole thing made it possible to access the file in gedit before
[04:04] <KM0201> ya
[04:05] <KM0201> roasted: or embrace the horror, choose a new UI..lol
[04:05] <jenn_> kevdog: i removed the lines we added and ubuntu still does not boot
[04:05] <kevdog> jenn_:So you would find the file at /medial/f530e869-170b-422c-a03d-de1c47b7b6f0/etc/fstab
[04:05] <kevdog> jenn_:Did you edit the file as root?
[04:05] <roasted> KM0201, failing to see the issue here. I used to passionately hate unity, but 12.04 has presented some nice changes that negate the need to install anything else.
[04:05] <LinuxRants> MontanaMan: Sorry to ask things you've probably already answered.... what's your distro?
[04:05] <roasted> KM0201, but this is clearly a conversation for another room. ;)
[04:05] <KM0201> true.. :)
[04:05] <jenn_> kevdog: I typed in "sudo gedit \f530.....\etc\fstab" to edit it
[04:06] <kevdog> jenn_: gksu gedit /media/f530e869-170b-422c-a03d-de1c47b7b6f0/etc/fstab
[04:06] <Karmaon> ubuntu driver support is shit :(
[04:06] <MontanaMan> Ubuntu 11.10 (32 bit)
[04:06] <KM0201> Karmaon: no its not
[04:06] <MontanaMan> Running on a Gateway MX7118 laptop
[04:06] <Karmaon> for netbooks
[04:06] <kevdog> roasted: Please!
[04:07] <roasted> kevdog, hi?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: its very good actualy. I have friends who use Linux due to no drivers in Windows
[04:07] <jenn_> kevdog: okay, I'm in
[04:07] <kevdog> jenn_: In the file?
[04:07] <Karmaon> ActionParsnip: thats a surprise
[04:07] <jenn_> kevdog: no internet on that computer though so I can't pastebin the contents
[04:07] <roasted> Karmaon, yeah, actually it's significantly better than windows.... I've had to support 2 thousand windows machines, and then 3,000 ubuntu machines.
[04:07] <Karmaon> i guess i'm the 1% who does
[04:07] <roasted> Karmaon, believe me, windows is not in favor there.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: no its very common in my experience, many companies actively make drivers for Linux too
[04:08] <kevdog> jenn_:Do you have the link to your old pastebin page (or you could just restore the backup)
[04:08] <roasted> Karmaon, really the only drivers youll have to install are broadcom wireless drivers and video drivers.
[04:08] <MontanaMan> LinuxRants: The last time I did an install from the OEM version of Windows, I had to hunt for the drivers LOL.  It's the bastard laptop from Gateway, as I found out
[04:08] <jenn_> kevdog: looking at the contents now, line 14 has been removed, and I've uncommented line 12
[04:08] <roasted> Karmaon, everything else is baked in.
[04:08] <kevdog> roasted: unity?? really
[04:08] <roasted> Karmaon, windows can't even come close.
[04:08] <roasted> kevdog, what about it
[04:08] <jenn_> kevdog: if you scroll your history the pastebin page should be there, it's not in this window since I had to log in as a different user
[04:08] <Karmaon> ook i lost
[04:08] <kevdog> jenn_:There are supposed to be 13 lines in the file
[04:09] <jenn_> kevdog: alternatively, how I restore the bakup?
[04:09] <Karmaon> please don't hur tme
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: its not about losing :), it's about learning
[04:09] <kevdog> http://paste.ubuntu.com/901515/
[04:09] <roasted> Karmaon, no problem. I accept linux's short comings where they exist. but driver support is not one I'd say is a -1 to linux. :D
[04:09] <jenn_> kevdog: yes, like 13 says "nls=iso8859-1,ro...."
[04:09] <jenn_> kevdog: *line
[04:10] <kevdog> jenn_: Line 13 should be the following: /dev/sdb1                                  /media/sdb1  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,ro,users,umask=000,user,owner  0  0
[04:10] <LinuxRants> MontanaMan: Sorry about the delay, I don't have an install of that particular distro, I have a beta of 12.04 is all... but it should be SIMILAR at least.
[04:10] <LinuxRants> MontanaMan: What do you have on the Output tab under the Play sound through box?
[04:11] <kevdog> roasted: another time about unity bro -- I'll just spill the beans for me -- don't like it
[04:11] <jenn_> kevdog: okay, there was a bunch of spaces between sdb1/ and media for some reason, I removed them, now it looks like you wrote
[04:11] <roasted> kevdog, I was with ya too man. I hated it in 11.04, semi disliked it in 11.10, but in 12.04 I'm loving it...
[04:11] <EsoRottica> If anyone has any experience with fglrx iI would greatly appreciate some help :)
[04:11] <roasted> kevdog, whenever you upgrade to 12.04, just give it a shot. it's worth it. :)
[04:12] <MontanaMan> LinuxRants: Output Devices: Internal Audio Analog Stereo.  Port: Analog Headphones/No Amplifier
[04:12] <kevdog> jenn_: Line 12 is the following: UUID=e5908072-e71f-49b9-9387-d792bbad21b5  none         swap  users,sw,user,owner                          0  0
[04:12] <roasted> kevdog, gotta close down xchat though, so I'll be out of here for a few. Seriously though, try it when you upgrade. Have a good one.
[04:12] <MontanaMan> LinuxRants: In the Playback Tab, the sound is at 100%
[04:12] <jenn_> kevdog: okay, we're good there too!
[04:12] <kevdog> jenn_: Line 10 is the following: UUID=f530e869-170b-422c-a03d-de1c47b7b6f0  /            ext4  users,user,owner                             0  1
[04:12] <MontanaMan> all settings
[04:13] <kevdog> roasted: I'll see, however I'll try it -- but really I hate the concept of the HUD and the left panel --- ehh
[04:13] <dumb_dumb> guys
[04:13] <kevdog> jenn_:All the other lines are meaningless since they start with a # sign
[04:13] <jenn_> kevdog: does it matter how much space is betwee the uuid and the / ext4 users,user,owner ?
[04:13] <dumb_dumb> I got an ubuntu server 8.04
[04:13] <roasted> arg
[04:13] <roasted> why is xchat not giving me an icon in the unity bar
[04:14] <kevdog> jenn_: I don't think so
[04:14] <dumb_dumb> suddenly the network card is stopping
[04:14] <jenn_> kevdog: what about 'proc  /proc  proc nodev,noexec,nosuid'
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> roasted: is there an option to not use the system tray icon..
[04:14] <jenn_> kevdog: what about 'proc  /proc  proc nodev,noexec,nosuid o,o' that is
[04:14] <dumb_dumb> but If i used other linux and boot from the cd the network card is function again
[04:14] <MontanaMan> LinuxRants: Just exploring a bit, but have the COnexant audio drivers been flaky on Linux setups?
[04:14] <roasted> ActionParsnip, oh wow, it doesn't even show up in alt tab....
[04:15] <kevdog> jenn_: oops sorry I forgot that one
[04:15] <dumb_dumb> any idea how can i check the problems on my server?
[04:15] <roasted> ActionParsnip, weird??
[04:15] <jenn_> kevdog: should I have and reboot without the cd in the tray? anything else I should check? (permissions, ?)
[04:15] <kevdog> jenn_: save the file and go back to the terminal prompt and check the permissions on the file with a ls -la
[04:16] <dumb_dumb> I check the status is already UP
[04:16] <fabio> how to know what is the number of usb port?
[04:16] <fabio> of an device
[04:16] <jenn_> kevdog: I typed in "ls -la" exactly and got a bunch of.... stuff. Do I need to specify that it is fstab I am interested in? What's the syntax?
[04:17] <kevdog> jenn_:  should be something like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1386 Feb  7 01:15 /etc/fstab
[04:17] <paulus68> dumb_dumb: does it get a valid IP?
[04:17] <zykotick9> jenn_: if you are in /etc you could use "ls -la fstab"
[04:17] <kevdog> jenn_: sudo ls -la  /media/xxxxxxxxx/etc/fstab
[04:17] <jenn_> kevdog: okay thanks
[04:17] <dumb_dumb> it stop the NIC light is off and it`s not get ip-address
[04:19] <jenn_> kevdog: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 847 2012-03-27
[04:19] <paulus68> dumb_dumb: then it can't be up either
[04:19] <KM0201> jenn_: why did you make a folder called /media/xxxx/etc/fstab?
[04:19] <jenn_> km0201: I didn't, the UUID is just too long
[04:19] <kingfarvito> trying to install a harddrive and having issues
[04:19] <kingfarvito> getting the following error
[04:19] <KM0201> jenn_: ok, so /media/UUID/etc/fstab
[04:19] <jenn_> KM0201: yes :P
[04:19] <kingfarvito> media test failure check cable
[04:20] <dumb_dumb> pulus68 : if I check using ifconfig the i got eth0
[04:20] <KM0201> just curious why you named it /etc/fstab?
[04:20] <kingfarvito> exiting pxe rom
[04:20] <kevdog> jenn_: Ok good -- take cd out of drive and try to reboot
[04:20] <jenn_> kevdog: aight. here we go.
[04:21] <zykotick9> kingfarvito: seems your motherboard doesn't think a HD is connected, so it's trying to network boot
[04:21] <kevdog> KM0201: Here is the problem -- made some mods to /etc/fstab and then stated the computer would boot but not get past bios screen -- then booted to live cd to restore old /etc/fstab
[04:21] <jenn_> kevdog: ....and straight to blinking cursor in upper-left corner
[04:21] <paulus68> dumb_dumb: sudo ifup eth0 what does this give for message
[04:21] <kevdog> KM0201: I'm not entirely convinced its the fstab file but I'm just backtracking
[04:21] <KM0201> kevdog: most of the time fstab errors (as long as you've n ot jacked up the original /) you can hit Ctrl+(something) to skip any errors,
[04:22] <kingfarvito> ok so what should I do
[04:22] <kingfarvito> it started up just fine and was ok for about 10 mins
[04:22] <kevdog> KM0201: You're right, and the drive it would have choked on would not have been the root partition, so it doesn't make a lot of sense
[04:22] <KM0201> kevdog: exactly
[04:23] <fabio> how to know what is the number of usb port?
[04:23] <dumb_dumb> paulus68: it doesn`t give any message
[04:23] <fabio> of an device
[04:23] <kevdog> KM0201: The problem with helping people on irc or the forums is that you really never know "what else they did"
[04:23] <kingfarvito> I didn't put the screws back yet, could that be it?
[04:23] <jenn_> :(
[04:23] <kingfarvito> its a laptop by the way
[04:23] <kevdog> fabio: /media/usb
[04:23] <KM0201> kevdog: this is so true.
[04:24] <jenn_> kevdog: I had pysdm installed from prior. Could it be running interference? Any way to remove it from the live cd environment?
[04:24] <KM0201> jenn_: maybe i missed it, but can you pastebin the contents of that fstab so i can take a look at it?
[04:24] <fabio> kevdog: no
[04:24] <paulus68> dumb_dumb: should at least give you the message "interface eth0 is already configured
[04:24] <jenn_> KM0201: Can't seem to get internet going from the live cd...
[04:25] <fabio> kevdog: says not found
[04:25] <kevdog> KM0201: the old fstab was this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901515/
[04:25] <fabio> Bus 002 Device 011: ID 0079:0006 DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick
[04:25] <dumb_dumb> no theres no such message
[04:25] <kevdog> fabio: mount
[04:25] <jenn_> KM0201: And I'm pretty sure it's the same as that one right now.
[04:25] <dumb_dumb> any suggestion to fix this?
[04:25] <jenn_> Should I just reinstall or what?
[04:25] <KM0201> kevdog: did you gusy remove line 13?
[04:25] <kingfarvito> no one?
[04:26] <jenn_> km0201: no
[04:26] <KM0201> i would start there
[04:26] <kevdog> jenn_: Just remove line 13 for now
[04:26] <fabio> kevdog: still no
[04:26] <KM0201> that line doesn't look right (look at the others that are default, vs that one)
[04:26] <jenn_> kevdog km0201: okay, I'll have to get back into the live cd...
[04:26] <ang> hi. how do i start networking at boot time in 11.04 without network-manager?
[04:26] <paulus68> dumb_dumb: type in lshw>lshw.txt this should give you a list of all your hardware in a textfile in your homefolder then pastebinit the outcome here
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> ang: you can use ifconf or iwconfig
[04:27] <zykotick9> ang: /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:27] <kevdog> ang  Within a script file in /etc/rc.local?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> ang: or you can use the interfaces file ^
[04:27] <ang> i have an interface file, but on boot nothing comes up,I have to manually ifup both interfaces
[04:27] <kevdog> KM0201: 13 was put there by another program, but as I said -- this is an accessory drive so I'm confused
[04:27] <EsoRottica> Anyone know enough about fglrx  that they could help with a heating issue?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> ang: do you have:  auto eth0   line in the file?
[04:28] <zykotick9> ang: do you have "auto eth0" in there
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: zing
[04:28] <daredevil> Hello guys is there any way to use gnome the old fashion way
[04:28] <ang> ahh, ok
[04:28] <daredevil> Without that Ubiquity thing?
[04:28] <KM0201> kevdog: yeah.. something is weird (not totally convinced this is an fstab prob.. cuz like we both know, fstab errors you typically get the option to skip)
[04:28] <kevdog> Post your /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:28] <ang> that's probably it then :)
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=53670
[04:28] <daredevil> ActionParsnip, thank you
[04:29] <jenn_> kevdog: taking a while to load....
[04:29] <MTMan> Hello folks.  Having trouble getting the sound to work on my laptop
[04:29] <MTMan> back...
[04:29] <rbrooks> hi
[04:29] <paulus68> is there a good program that does the same thing as Itunes under windows? and is there a good program to take over the desktop remotely under ubuntu?
[04:29] <kevdog> KM0201: I'm thinking its a xorg or video driver problem, however shouldn't you still be able to drop to a cmd shell with f6 (or is it f1)?
[04:30] <KM0201> kevdog: yes, you should
[04:30] <Karmaon> which device is generally /boot? sdb1 or sdb2?
[04:30] <Karmaon> i meant partition
[04:30] <kevdog> paulus68: What desktop do you want to take over
[04:30] <MTMan> paulus68: Banshee looks promising
[04:30] <AI|Loop> Karmaon: try the first one
[04:30] <jenn_> kevdog: okay, will comment out line 13
[04:30] <paulus68> kevdog: my ubuntu at home remotely from another ubuntu pc
[04:30] <paulus68> MTMan: thanks
[04:31] <ang> thx. I got rid of the network-manager as it was giving my NICs weird names like eth1-eth0 and ignoring the udev rules I had for naming the NICs ... time to reboot and test
[04:31] <daredevil> meaning that we have to deal with this until april 26?
[04:31] <kevdog> Karmaon: it could be anything, however mine is sda1, however it depends on how you set the drives up
[04:31] <EsoRottica> paulus68: remote desktop viewer?
[04:31] <kevdog> paulus68: Do you need a gui or just a command line?
[04:31] <MTMan> kevdog: Are there any drivers I could get for a Conexant audio setup?
[04:32] <paulus68> kevdog: gui
[04:32] <AI|Loop> Karmaon : to add to what kevdog said, use sudo fdisk -l to find out
[04:32] <daredevil> ActionParsnip, meaning that we have to deal with this until 4/26?
[04:32] <kevdog> MTMan: no idea on that one, sorry
[04:32] <jenn_> kevdog KM0201: commented out 13, restarting
[04:32] <KM0201> jenn_: ok
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: how do you mean?
[04:33] <daredevil> The website is saying that the classic will be available in the 12.04 version
[04:33] <MTMan> I'm going to do some searching in Google to see what I can do... KInda at the end of my rope with this setup
[04:33] <jenn_> kevdog KM0201: nope, blinking cursor again
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: you don't have to use Unity, Unity is only in one of the 4 official variants of Ubuntu....
[04:33] <KM0201> hmmm
[04:33] <kevdog> jenn_: Hit f6
[04:33] <kevdog> or f1
[04:33] <jenn_> kevdog: nothing
[04:33] <jenn_> kevdog: on either
[04:33] <kevdog> or all the f keys
[04:33] <ang> yep. that did it. thanks
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: try installing Xubuntu, its very similar to Gnome2
[04:34] <jenn_> kevdog: i'm just going to move all my data off the main hard drive using the live CD and reinstall ubuntu from scratch (format, etc.)
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> jenn_: I suggest you get a backup regime
[04:35] <EsoRottica> bah, i need to do the same, what is a good imaging program?
[04:35] <daredevil> ActionParsnip, I think i am going to use kde4 or xfce until the change this crappy gnome
[04:35] <kevdog> jenn_: That might be the fastest way to do it -- particularly if your system is new -- however your setup should definitely be recoverable -- the problem is that I'm just not sitting in front of your computer
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: Unity is not Gnome
[04:35] <KM0201> jenn_: at this point, i would agree w/ ActionParsnip .... something has happened to your system
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: Unity is a shell for Gnome, nothing more
[04:35] <Karmaon> While running update-grub i get 'cannot find list of partitions (try mounting /sys.)
[04:35] <daredevil> Ok i want to be able to use native gnome
[04:35] <daredevil> not the shell
[04:35] <jenn_> the option to boot in recovery doesn't even appear...
[04:36] <KM0201> daredevil: "native gnome" is no more
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: are you using a chroot?
[04:36] <paulus68> kevdog: gui
[04:36] <jenn_> ugh.
[04:36] <EsoRottica> paulus68: did you see Remote desktop viewer?
[04:36] <kevdog> What happens when you hit escape key during boot process -- oh and one more thing -- is your bios setup to boot from the ubuntu hard drive?
[04:36] <paulus68> E
[04:36] <paulus68> EsoRottica: no not yet
[04:36] <Karmaon> ActionParsnip: nevermind, i forgot to mount /sys to /mnt/sys
[04:36] <jenn_> kevdog: yeah, I even went to the boot menu to make sure
[04:37] <paulus68> EsoRottica: will check it out
[04:37] <daredevil> ok guys i am kind of confuse but what i am trying to say is that i would like to use gnome as in the old version of gnome 9.04
[04:37] <EsoRottica> paulus68: it is built in.
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: thought so ;)
[04:37] <daredevil> sorry ubuntu 9.04
[04:37] <paulus68> EsoRottica: thanks
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> daredevil: the guide I gave shows how to tweak it
[04:37] <EsoRottica> paulus68: you may need to set a port forwarding rule.
[04:37] <jenn_> kevdog: I can ctrl alt del from my blinking cursor to reboot.
[04:37] <kevdog> paulus68: I prefer using an X server and tunneling X or ssh, however there is also a vnc or freenx solution
[04:37] <daredevil> Ok let me read more
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> jenn_: hold shift at boot
[04:37] <kevdog> jenn_; but the boot order is set correctly in the bios correct?
[04:37] <jenn_> kevdog: yes
[04:38] <fabio> how to know what is the number of usb port of an device
[04:38] <paulus68> kevdog: EsoRottica: thanks
[04:38] <jenn_> ActionParsnip: it goes straight from BIOS to blinking cursor...
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> fabio: do your ports have numbers?
[04:38] <ex0s> lsusb
[04:38] <jenn_> ActionParsnip: except when I ask bios to boot from the live CD...
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> jenn_: hold shift as soon as the system powers up
[04:39] <fabio> ActionParsnip: how to see?
[04:39] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: waz up with the shift key? don't know this trick
[04:39] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: sounds to me like jenn_ might be missing grub?
[04:39] <ex0s> use the command: lsusb
[04:39] <jenn_> ActionParsnip: does nothing... f11 is boot menu, del is bios setup
[04:39] <zykotick9> kevdog: grub2 uses shift not esc
[04:39] <Karmaon> Afterwards, I also get "/var/lock/lvm: mkdir failed: no such file or directory" thrown at me.
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> fabio: it doesn't exist and its irrelevant, it all goes throught the same controller
[04:39] <EsoRottica> fabio: lsusb
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> jenn_: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[04:40] <kevdog> zykotick9: shit, forgot about that crap
[04:40] <fabio> Bus 002 Device 013: ID 0079:0006 DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick
[04:40] <fabio> EsoRottica: Bus 002 Device 013: ID 0079:0006 DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick
[04:40] <ex0s> yea
[04:40] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: Supposedly system was working and then made modification to fstab and now won't boot
[04:40] <jenn_> ActionParsnip: I can only boot from a CD I burned, I don't recall checking the md5.
[04:40] <ex0s> bus oo2
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | jenn_
[04:41] <EsoRottica> i thought md5sum filename?
[04:41] <alexim> is there an aptitude command to restore default config files, specifically for apache2?
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> fabio: https://systemausfall.org/wikis/howto/EMC2GamePad
[04:41] <AI|Loop> how do I go about having someone write the drivers for new hardware? (The lan controller in a Gigabit Guerilla motherboard :: freescale microchip)
[04:41] <ex0s> fabio: all the info is there
[04:41] <kevdog> jenn_: Its possible your partition is corrupt, could burn a gparted distribution, boot into that from cd, and I think check your drives with that utiltiy
[04:42] <ex0s> or just boot from another live cd
[04:42] <jenn_> kevdog: it smells like sudden hardware error, doesn't it
[04:42] <ex0s> run goarted or a progrqm or the like
[04:42] <jenn_> kevdog: like the boot partition got corrupted?
[04:42] <kevdog> jenn_: not sure -- its kinda weird
[04:42] <fabio> ex0s: i want to know what port is...
[04:43] <ssfdre38> what is the command to get the restricted dvd formats from apt
[04:43] <EsoRottica> could you syslinux the drive to fix it? extlinux?
[04:43] <jenn_> kevdog: yeah. I should go to bed. The install is relatively fresh, I can always just format and start over and not play with settings until I know what I am doing.
[04:43] <zykotick9> !dvd | ssfdre38
[04:43] <jenn_> kevdog: lesson learned.
[04:43] <ex0s> fabio:  on ur machine??  u cant physically see it??
[04:43] <jenn_> Still, this kinda sucks.
[04:43] <fabio> ex0s: ....
[04:44] <ex0s> i dont know what u mean bro?
[04:44] <fabio> ex0s: i want to see the inputs of an device
[04:44] <kevdog> jenn_: I use gparted sometime if something goes crazy with my partition table, however if you really don't have anything on the install it probably is quickest just to "start over" however it just depends how much you want to invest "learning", nothing teaches you more about linux than borking your install and then fixing it
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: +1
[04:44] <fabio> ex0s: when i press the button what the device send to my pc
[04:44] <ex0s> like check out /dev
[04:44] <ex0s> ohh
[04:44] <paulus68> kevdog +1
[04:45] <MontanaMan> back
[04:45] <jenn_> kevdog: the problem is so opaque to me I wouldn't know where to start.
[04:45] <ex0s> umm  i dont think u can never heard ofthat dude
[04:45] <MontanaMan> I think I figured out my problem
[04:45] <MontanaMan> At any rate I did get the sound to work...
[04:45] <fabio> ex0s: how to know witcg oirt us
[04:45] <MontanaMan> This Conexant crap is the PITS!
[04:45] <ex0s> ohhh
[04:45] <ex0s> sorry
[04:45] <ex0s> try: dmesg
[04:45] <kevdog> jenn_: hate to tell you this, however I was in the same boat as you a few years ago :p
[04:45] <fabio> *how to know witch port is
[04:45] <paulus68> kevdog: or use virtual box to play arround if you want to experiment
[04:45] <jenn_> kevdog: though I respect the open source ethos when it comes to, you know, self-learning
[04:45] <ex0s> dmesg :  is the command u want
[04:45] <fabio> ex0s: dmesg dont gives me notning
[04:45] <Karmaon> is the /var/lock/lvm not existing just a bug with oneiric?
[04:45] <MontanaMan> LinuxRants: Got 'er figured out... just installed a 3rd party driver
[04:46] <ex0s> lol... unplug the device plug it back in then run dmesg
[04:46] <jenn_> kevdog: anyway, I'm going to go to bed,. thanks for trying to help me out.
[04:46] <kevdog> jenn_:again if its mission critical and you need just a running system, probably quickest to just reinstall
[04:46] <fabio> [26874.380220] usb 2-1.3: new low speed USB device number 13 using ehci_hcd
[04:46] <fabio> [26874.480627] input: DragonRise Inc.   Generic   USB  Joystick   as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.3/2-1.3:1.0/input/input15
[04:46] <fabio> [26874.480847] dragonrise 0003:0079:0006.0004: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [DragonRise Inc.   Generic   USB  Joystick  ] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.3/input0
[04:46] <fabio> [26874.480889] dragonrise 0003:0079:0006.0004: Force Feedback for DragonRise Inc. game controllers by Richard Walmsley <richwalm@gmail.com>
[04:46] <FloodBot1> fabio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <ex0s> thats all the help i got for u.  trygooglebto
[04:46] <ex0s> what more do u want fabio..
[04:46] <kevdog> fabio: what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <ex0s> gave u the commands for what he asked for i dunno what elae to tell em
[04:47] <fabio> im trying to get what the computer see when i press the button of pad
[04:47] <ex0s> lol
[04:48] <ex0s> ur talking about binary
[04:48] <ex0s> code dude
[04:48] <kevdog> fabio: come to think about it, I do remember you telling me that a ways back
[04:48] <fabio> ex0s:  anything...
[04:48] <fabio> kevdog:  still dont get awnsers
[04:48] <ex0s> urnot going to be aboe to seeit
[04:48] <Karmaon> i guess i'm out of luck since there's only one bug report on lauchpad and no responses are on it
[04:48] <MontanaMan> Quick question.  How do I resolve the "Firmware is missing" message on my built in Wireless Networking setup
[04:48] <MontanaMan> ?
[04:49] <ex0s> google that dude with ur wireless card
[04:49] <fabio> ex0s:  of corse is possible
[04:49] <fabio> some kind of monitor
[04:49] <ex0s> lol never heard of it man ur in the wring place
[04:49] <kevdog> MontanaMan: Whats your chipset of the card? or is this usb?  I'm betting this is a broadcom
[04:49] <ex0s> no
[04:49] <ex0s> not lie what ur askin
[04:50] <MontanaMan> kevdog: You hit that nail right on the head.  It's a broadcom
[04:50] <MontanaMan> The only way I'm connected to the net with this thing is with it wired into my LAN
[04:50] <kevdog> fabio: I'm not certain -- I've only done what you want to do with serial ports back in the day -- I'm not accustomed to this new USB stuff
[04:50] <MontanaMan> But I'd sure like to use it wirelessly
[04:50] <kevdog> MM: You are going to have to download the firmware
[04:51] <MontanaMan> kevdog: Where would I get the firmware?
[04:51] <kevdog> MM: Let me look that up -- I've done it before -- but you kind of forget once everything "works" for a really long time
[04:51] <ghostconn> well i just installed mint 12 kde. should i update to 4.3.8 or no?
[04:51] <zykotick9> !broadcom | MontanaMan perhaps this will help?
[04:51] <ghostconn> any suggestions ?
[04:52] <dumb_dumb> paulus68: http://pastebin.com/pRXNMFMy
[04:52] <MyLinuxRig> Hey, I got a theoretical question. If compilers still cost money these days, why wouldn't you be able to pirate one?
[04:52] <MrKeuner> hello, Lucid here... How can I install latest ubuntu one?
[04:52] <MrKeuner> also removed my computer from machines, cannot add again :) in 1.2.2
[04:53] <thedunce> i'm facing a problem with wi-fi connection on my ubuntu 10.04 running on a dell inspiron i5. Can connect easily using a wired connection. Cannot detect wi-fi.
[04:53] <kevdog> MM: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[04:53] <zykotick9> !tab > kevdog
[04:53] <wylde> ghostconn: Mint isn't supporeted here
[04:54] <wylde> !mint | ghostconn
[04:54] <dumb_dumb> any one could help me with my ubuntu server 8.04 NIC problem
[04:54] <kevdog> zykotick9: Thanks -- didn't know that
[04:54] <kevdog> MontanaMan: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[04:54] <dumb_dumb> the NIC is UP but not working
[04:54] <dumb_dumb> event the LED is turn off
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: does the interface have an IP?
[04:55] <dumb_dumb> right now is no
[04:56] <dumb_dumb> but a few days ago it works fine
[04:56] <MontanaMan> kevdog: Got it.. Now how about the command that would get this driver on-line
[04:56] <dumb_dumb> and if I`m using the CD and boot from the CD the network card is working fine
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: if you restart the networking service, then pull the interface down then up, are there any clues?
[04:57] <dumb_dumb> no
[04:57] <kevdog> MontanaMan: Working from command line or do you just want to use network manager?
[04:57] <dumb_dumb> there`s no clue at all
[04:57] <rogst> dumb_dumb: does the inteface have a static ip or dhcp?
[04:57] <MontanaMan> kevdog: Either or
[04:57] <dumb_dumb> it used have a dynamic IP
[04:58] <dumb_dumb> if I used ifconfig the eth0 state is already UP
[04:58] <mushe> SUP NIGGAS
[04:58] <MontanaMan> kevdog: Checked under settings then Network.  IT says "unavailable" under Wireless
[04:58] <kevdog> MontanaMan: I think Network Manager would be the easiest -- cant you just take the wired connection down and pull up the wired connection or you might have to run sudo service networking restart command first
[04:58] <mushe> sup
[04:58] <mushe> im installing xubuntu HIGHFIVES
[04:59] <mushe> brofist
[04:59] <mushe> yall use xubuntu?
[04:59] <MontanaMan> ok... will do.. let me get the credentials from my wireless network
[04:59] <MontanaMan> brb
[04:59] <rogst> dumb_dumb: have you tried sudo dhclient -r ?
[05:00] <dumb_dumb> rogst : if its the DHCP problems the NIC LED should on the on state right?
[05:01] <rogst> true
[05:01] <dumb_dumb> right now the state is off
[05:01] <kevdog> ─τσq2ko♂
[05:02] <dumb_dumb> this that make me confused
[05:02] <rogst> dumb_dumb: does your log files tell you anything?
[05:03] <kevdog> dumb_dumb: At the risk of self promotion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[05:03] <kingfarvito> any idea how to make my compy see this damned drive?
[05:03] <benwalburn> I'm trying to install a gimp plugin but I've never done it before. The directions say to use "make install" but I've never done that either. Can anyone help me?
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: does the partition show if you run:   sudo fdisk -l
[05:04] <kingfarvito> the computer wont even try to boot from the drive
[05:04] <dumb_dumb> kevdog : i`m using wired network
[05:05] <dumb_dumb> can i used the same method as your link?
[05:05] <dumb_dumb> rogost: where can i find it? I`m not ubuntu expert
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: is this to install with, or is it an installed OS?
[05:05] <kevdog> dumb_dumb: Considering I wrote what was in that link, I could say its a pretty safe bet :p
[05:06] <kingfarvito> its a hardware issue I'm installing a new drive in a laptop for a friend
[05:06] <kevdog> benwalburn: Are you compiling from source?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: ok, does it show in BIOS?
[05:07] <kingfarvito> nope
[05:07] <kingfarvito> its a WD drive
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: then its a hardware issue,
[05:07] <dumb_dumb> this is my lshw log : http://pastebin.com/pRXNMFMy
[05:08] <benwalburn> kevdog: I'm guess I am, sorry I'm new to this. I'm trying to install the addon found here http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html
[05:11] <soreau> I get the inevitable, platform_wayland.c:601:7: error: implicit declaration of function 'wl_buffer_damage'
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: is it an internal drive?
[05:11] <soreau> oops
[05:11] <kingfarvito> yes
[05:11] <kingfarvito> brand new out of the box
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: I'd ask in ##hardware
[05:11] <kingfarvito> the connector is different though
[05:12] <kevdog> benwalburn: Its not hard to do -- its really easy -- but have you ever compiled anything before?
[05:13] <benwalburn> kevdog: no, I haven't
[05:14] <rogst> dumb_dumb: run lspci | grep Ethernet and note the numbers in the first column e.g. 04:00.0 then run lspci -v -s 04:00 thee you can se i fo aboit the driver loaded for the evice
[05:14] <dumb_dumb> rogst : let me try it
[05:14] <FerchoArg> I think ar.archive.ubuntu.com is down or at least it's unreachable from my location
[05:15] <FerchoArg> is it possible to redirect it to "es.archive.ubuntu.com" for example without editing sources.lst?
[05:15] <FerchoArg> I mean something like etc/hosts, but only with hostnames?
[05:15] <rogst> FerchoArg: yes in /etc/hosts
[05:16] <sacarlson> FerchoArg: in synaptic you can select another country in the gui
[05:16] <kevdog> benwalburn: Ok -- install dependencies right now -- sudo apt-get install build-essential g++ libgimp2.0-dev
[05:17] <kevdog> benwalburn: I would then download your plugin -- unzip/tar it, change into the source directory, and simply type sudo make install -- and pray
[05:17] <FerchoArg> ah ok, thanks!
[05:17] <FerchoArg> thanks sacarlson
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> FerchoArg: use software centre to change source
[05:17] <benwalburn> kevdog: ok, I'll try that as soon as I can. my internet is slow, so this download will probably take a while
[05:18] <FerchoArg> (I have to set an easy shortcut to "Nickname:"  :P )
[05:19] <kevdog> benwalburn: I'm heading to bed, but most likely you will probably need more packages than I listed (it always seems to be the case when compiling).  If you need more help from me (maybe tomorrow), drop a post in the ubuntu forums
[05:19] <dumb_dumb> rogst : I already do that
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> FerchoArg: use tab to autocomplete nicks
[05:19] <benwalburn> kevdog: alright, thank you
[05:20] <dumb_dumb> what next
[05:20] <kevdog> benwalburn: And don't worry too much about it -- what you want to do is really easy and great way to learn how to compile something from source -- a skill all linux users should be able to do!
[05:20] <FerchoArg> ActionParsnip, nice!
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: if you get chance, reboot and run:  dmesg | less     see what is going on.
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> FerchoArg: same in terminal :)
[05:21] <FerchoArg> yes, I did use it in terminal, but It never came to my mind trying it here. shame on me
[05:21] <dumb_dumb> ActionParsnip : after rebooting then i run dmesg | less ??
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: yes, it will show the interface being detected and so forth
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> FerchoArg: its all learning :
[05:22] <dumb_dumb> ok let me reboot it first
[05:24] <benwalburn> kevdog: if you're still here, thank you. the executable file (or whatever) was made and now I'm moving it to the proper directory
[05:24] <webnet> hey all odd problem. i cant access my terminal at all root or therwise i receieve this error:
[05:24] <webnet> There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[05:24] <webnet> getpt failed: No such file or directory
[05:24] <kevdog> benwalburn: Shit -- can't believe that actually worked the first time
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> webnet: if you run xterm, is it ok?
[05:24] <webnet> ActionParsnip, xterm?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> webnet: yes, xterm
[05:25] <webnet> what is x-term?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> webnet: a terminal, like gnome-terminal
[05:25] <rongyanl> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 10.04, however, during the step "installing the base system" it stucks at about 75% with the error message "Please insert the disc labeled ..." Any help from here?
[05:25] <benwalburn> kevdog: lol don't jinx me, murphy's law loves me
[05:25] <webnet> how would i access it ActionParsnip ?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> rongyanl: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> webnet: press ALT+F2 and run:  xterm   just like you do ANY other app
[05:26] <kevdog> benwalburn: oh snap!
[05:26] <rongyanl> Actionparsnip, could you please tell me how to do that?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | rongyanl
[05:27] <kevdog> If you've pulled a git repository, what's best way to figure out the revision number you currently have on your system
[05:28] <webnet> ActionParsnip, ALT+F2 isnt working
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> webnet: then run it from your menus / dash etc
[05:29] <alazare619> anyone here have knowledge of how to get vnc working over ssh using windows putty
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[05:29] <webnet> nothing is working ActionParsnip.
[05:30] <dumb_dumb> ActionParsnip : I got ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) : eth0 : link is not ready
[05:30] <webnet> menus are non responsive.
[05:30] <kevdog> alazare619: yes - but I prefer running X over ssh since I think its faster, but this won't work if you cant install xming on the client -- in that case you'll need portable apps like putty,
[05:30] <dumb_dumb> any clue ?
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: if you unload then reload the module, is it ok
[05:30] <webnet> ActionParsnip, im actually surprised xchat is working
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> webnet: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and you can run stuff there
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: thought about using a later release, Precise is LTS and out now in beta but will be out next month, could also install Lucid server which is LTS also
[05:32] <webnet> ActionParsnip, still nothing. im on 10.10 by the way. idk if you are giving me unity shortcuts
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> webnet: CTRL+ALT+T and CTRL+ALT+F1 work in all DEs
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> webnet: considering Maverick is EOL next month, I suggest you get a newer release installed
[05:33] <webnet> Cant sir
[05:33] <webnet> my comp doesnt support it
[05:33] <kevdog> Shit I'm still running feisty fawn...
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> webnet: if it supports maverick  it will support Oneiric and Precise
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: wow, that much be a record of some kind
[05:34] <tr0n> what happens when they run out of letters of the alphabet for release names?
[05:34] <kevdog> ...on one computer (clarification)
[05:34] <dumb_dumb> so actionpasnip : could you tell me the default mysql folder to store data?
[05:34] <webnet> ActionParsnip, actually no its a kernel issue. everything after 2.2.35 my monitor doesnt function
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> dumb_dumb: no idea, sorry
[05:34] <kevdog> And you know what --- things were so much simpler back in the day -- just my opinion
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> webnet: there are boot options to make monitors work with GPUs, its a common thing
[05:34] <webnet> ActionParsnip, the lcd works but the backlight doesnt function
[05:35] <webnet> went rounds about it on here for months after 11.04 came out
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: absolutely, I still miss Karmic :)
[05:35] <kevdog> I'll answer my own git question: git rev-list --max-count=1 <branch name>, so something like this: git rev-list --max-count=1 master
[05:36] <kevdog> Never ran Karmic, hated edgy, but Feisty was a true love.
[05:36] <webnet> but nonetheless, terminal doesnt open ctrl alt f1 does nothing alt f2 does nothing
[05:36] <sacarlson> dumb_dumb: you can look in synaptic for properties on mysql  to see what files are in it.  but I know that data bases are in /lib/?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: started Ubuntu at Gutsy
[05:36] <neo1691> Hi i am trying to share my ethernet connection for my andriod device from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless but when i type this in terminal sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop it says sudo: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager: command not found
[05:37] <sacarlson> dumb_dumb: opps /var/lib/?
[05:37] <webnet> everything i had open except x chat has crashed out already ActionParsnip
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> webnet: what about if you create a desktop launcher to run xterm
[05:37] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: I started at Edgy Eft, but Gutsy Gibbon -- that wasn't a bad release either
[05:38] <naryfa> what's up
[05:38] <webnet> nothing opens from the launcher
[05:38] <webnet> ActionParsnip, ^^
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: was ok, I was on Mandrake / Mandriva before that, wanted to see what the hubub was
[05:38] <sacarlson> dumb_dumb: a bit closer to /var/lib/mysql
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> webnet: if you reboot and press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen, create a new user there and log in as a new user, is it ok..?
[05:38] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: and then what? You stayed around?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: seemed to work so I hung out, then I became a member :)
[05:39] <webnet> ActionParsnip, im sort of afraid to reboot...
[05:39] <naryfa> why?
[05:39] <wylde> kevdog: you should see the karma points ActionParsnip has collected heh :)
[05:39] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: I had no idea you were a member -- congrats on the acheivement.  Members now a days are really good
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> webnet: you just need to logoff if you can, or hit CTRL+ALT+BackSpace to restart X
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: TY man, thats how I gots cloak :)
[05:40] <naryfa> it isn't always enabled
[05:40] <naryfa> ActionParsnip:
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> naryfa: sup?
[05:40] <kevdog> Hardy running e17 from svn -- that was another dreamboat of mine
[05:40] <naryfa> ActionParsnip: no I was saying that this keyboard shortcut isn't always enabled
[05:41] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: Holy crap -- just realized the cloaking going on --
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> naryfa: I believe it is ni Maverick, I could be wrong
[05:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: lucid used alt+sysrq+k
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ah yes
[05:42] <naryfa> possibleu
[05:43] <ubuntu64bit> what is the general chat ubuntu room?  forgot?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu64bit: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:43] <ubuntu64bit> thx
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> np
[05:44] <kevdog> I'm heading out for the night -- see you guys --
[05:44] <kevdog> and girls -- not to offend anyone
[05:44] <pengw_> hi all
[05:44] <pengw_> i try to do something with opencl
[05:45] <pengw_> who know how could i configure my code block to work with openCL?
[05:48] <rongyanl> Hi Actionparsnip, I've done the md5 check with my iso file, it has no problem.
[05:48] <neo1691> anybody?? help me ethernet connection sharing via wireless card?
[05:49] <interlude> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and ran chkrootkit which brings up the following: eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[870]) is that serious?
[05:50] <ewanjojo> hello
[05:50] <CFHowlett> ewanjojo   greetings
[05:50] <ewanjojo> ada org malaysia?
[05:50] <webnet_away> ActionParsnip install is bricked
[05:51] <ewanjojo> :)
[05:51] <wylde> interlude: probably if you're not purposely running one yourself.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> webnet_away: no idea then, al I can suggest is reinstall then. And please don't use the '_away' thing
[05:51] <rongyanl> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 10.04, however, during the step "installing the base system" it stucks at about 75% with the error message "Please insert the disc labeled ..." Any help from here?
[05:51] <CFHowlett> !my|ewanjojo
[05:51] <webnet_away> soon as i hit logout boom black screen for a sec then bios.
[05:52] <tr0n> rongyanl: use the md5 to verify the disk
[05:52] <webnet_away> _away is for when im on mobile
[05:52] <ewanjojo> tq
[05:52] <interlude> wylde: so it would not be a false positive
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> webnet_away: have you tested your RAM?
[05:52] <rongyanl> tron, yes i've done the md5 check, it has no problem
[05:52] <drounse> Is ubuntu as customizable as arch?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> whats the best video converter for ubuntu
[05:53] <webnet> no but i think it may have something to do with u customizer...
[05:53] <CFHowlett> rongyanl   this is on a cd/dvd?  Try creating a USB bootable and see if that works.
[05:53] <wylde> interlude: it could be. you'd have to look into it further to know. Not much info in that statement.
[05:53] <webnet> i was using that a few minutes before it all went fubar
[05:53] <rongyanl> CFHowlett, i've tried both cd and dvd, all giving such error message
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> drounse: yes
[05:53] <supson> can you explore googles wifi maps ?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: there is no single best anything for any OS
[05:54] <supson> trying to find their mapping of wifis around the globve
[05:54] <CFHowlett> rongyanl   I'm wondering if you disk driver is failing so suggest you try a USB boot
[05:54] <drounse> ActionParsnip, so should I start with ubuntu server cd and build?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> drounse: build what?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: actually i have a bunch of greatest packages for ubuntu
[05:55] <drounse> ActionParsnip build ubuntu as if it were arch
[05:55] <interlude> wylde: i ran ps aux | grep 870 and got this result: root       870  0.0  0.0   2232  1016 ?        S    22:36   0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient-1f0eb822-9b07-461c-a70c-b5c02f37a141-eth0.lease -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf eth0
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: thats based on your opinion, it os not concrete
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> drounse: I'd start with the minimal ISO instead then
[05:56] <webnet> ActionParsnip also. i dont think its the ram because the bois splash shows up and then grub and then a few seconds of the plymouth boot screen, then black screen with the text system has failed to boot
[05:56] <drounse> ActionParsnip is that going to give me click
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: every reply for a great package, would also be a single opinion (what a chat is for)
[05:56] <wylde> interlude: false positive then. Byt the look, although I'm no expert .
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> drounse: what is 'click'?
[05:56] <drounse> Cli *
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: exactly, which is why asking what the best solution for someting is a worthless endevour, its also offtopic here
[05:57] <drounse> ActionParsnip sorry I'm on my tablet stupid autocorrect
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> drounse: minimal will install boot loader, kernal and drivers and basic packaging tools and so forth
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> webnet: its a good thing to isolate as not the cause of the issue :)
[05:57] <ubuntu64bit> everything works great so far only noticiable flaw is when i hit ctrl-alt-f1 to switch from gui to usermode then switch back from usermode to gui the screen that boot's is garbled to get it back to normal i have to minimize the first window and maximize it back to clear out the garbled window :P
[05:57] <drounse> ActionParsnip ok thank you
[05:58] <interlude> wylde: thanks. just for future reference what in the process would indicate that it's a false positive?
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: you will find most GUI converter things are basically frontends to mencoder and/or ffmpeg
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> all this rules and ego mess up all irc, but to help someone would be very easy
[05:59] <webnet> ActionParsnip. i suppose so, but wouldnt it not get past bios splash if it were the ram?. would the use of U-Customizer have anything to do with it?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> ill try google next time
[05:59] <scientes> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: ok, riddle me this. What is the best colour?
[05:59] <scientes> i cancelled the ttf-mscorefonts installer cause i didn't want to agree with the license
[05:59] <scientes> and now it fed up my dpkg
[05:59] <scientes> thats a bug if i ever saw one
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | scientes
[06:00] <wylde> interlude: I'm basing my opinion that it's a false positive on dhclient and NetworkManager are known native processes
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> scientes: no, you killed the process, probably with CTRL+C, so not a bug
[06:01] <wylde> interlude: but, if you have reason to suspect there's a problem you should really look into it further.
[06:01] <scientes> ActionParsnip, well, there is no way to no agree to the license
[06:01] <scientes> it only has the option <ok>
[06:01] <scientes> and not <cancel>
[06:01] <scientes> also ActionParsnip i am use to aptitude and dpkg lock, but this is /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> scientes: that sounds more like a bug.
[06:02] <scientes> it use to not present the license IIRC
[06:02] <neo1691> I am unable to stop the network manager using sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop
[06:02] <scientes> i mean, why cant wine just depend on RedHat's librefonts replacement of mscorefonts for the web
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> scientes: could suggest that in the bug :)
[06:03] <CFHowlett> scientes   perhaps you might suggest that to !winehq
[06:03] <CFHowlett> #winehq
[06:03] <EsoRottica> okay, now i feel retarted.
[06:03] <EsoRottica> where is 12.94?
[06:03] <EsoRottica> 12.04*
[06:03] <CFHowlett> !precise|esorottica
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <EsoRottica> Thanks
[06:04] <interlude> wylde: cool thanks. i've ran chkrootkit before and don't remember seeing this. but i'm guessing it could be due to a system update
[06:05] <malkauns> how do u make conky always-on-top?
[06:06] <wylde> interlude: I believe there's a channel on freenode for security as well, could probably get some good input from there too.
[06:07] <interlude> wylde: thanks. do you know the name of the channel?
[06:08] <wylde> interlude: ##security I believe
[06:09] <pengw_> ok  i figured it out
[06:09] <interlude> wylde: thanks
[06:09] <Doodie> is there a way to see if anyone from my network is pinging my address?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Doodie: I'd check router logs
[06:10] <Doodie> ActionParsnip, where do i find that?
[06:11] <sacarlson> Doodie: I think wireshark with maybe an added filter to see attepted pings
[06:12] <scientes>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[06:12] <scientes> ffffff
[06:13] <fartofagony> "NASM is an auto−configuring package: once you’ve unpacked it, cd to the directory it’s been unpacked into
[06:13] <fartofagony> and type ./configure.". i type ./configure in the command prompt and get the error message: "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory". i cant find a solution for my problem anywhere
[06:14] <scientes> fartofagony, try ./autogen.sh
[06:14] <scientes> also, you have to be in the right directory fartofagony
[06:15] <fartofagony> yup
[06:15] <fartofagony> am in the right one
[06:16] <scientes> did you try autogen?
[06:16] <fartofagony> where the subdirectory is which was extracted there
[06:16] <scientes> you ahve to be IN the directory
[06:17] <fartofagony> no iidea what that is, im a windows user who just started with linux
[06:17] <scientes> also, your going to need to do apt-get install build-essential
[06:17] <fartofagony> have so much to learn :(
[06:17] <scientes> in general however fartofagony, you should stick to the software in the ubuntu repositories
[06:17] <scientes> you system will be alot stabler that way
[06:17] <scientes> also !checkinstall if you need something that isn't in the repos
[06:17] <webnet> ActionParsnip do you think my running u customize may have had anything to do with it.  Juts swapped out to new ramp and still no beans.
[06:18] <fartofagony> scientes: yeah, but the one you may be refering to is behind in versions
[06:18] <scientes> what package is it?
[06:18] <webnet> *ram
[06:18] <fartofagony> nasm
[06:19] <scientes> its not behidn
[06:19] <fartofagony> hmm im sure it was, let me check again
[06:19] <scientes> 2.09 vs 2.10
[06:19] <fartofagony> hmm
[06:19] <fartofagony> yup
[06:19] <scientes> unless you are using lucid, that is
[06:20] <fartofagony> nope
[06:20] <fartofagony> i guess the best thing to do is to jinstall the 2.9 one
[06:20] <scientes> yeah, that really is recommended
[06:21] <fartofagony> thjanks
[06:21] <scientes> however, yes they use autogen
[06:21] <scientes> so you have to ./autogen.sh
[06:21] <scientes> that was the problem
[06:21] <fartofagony> oh
[06:21] <scientes> http://repo.or.cz/w/nasm.git/tree
[06:21] <scientes> so its ./autogen.sh; make; checkinstall make install
[06:22] <fartofagony> typed it down for later research
[06:22] <scientes> (checkinstall is recommended so you can do clear uninstalls of manually installed packages
[06:22] <fartofagony> been up exactly 20 hours trying to install it
[06:22] <scientes> you could also download the debian package and upgrade it, and then do dpkg-buildpackage
[06:22] <scientes> but for any of that, you need a c compiler and other tools
[06:22] <scientes> so apt-get install build-essential is very useful
[06:22] <fartofagony> yes
[06:23] <fartofagony> hm raises another question:
[06:23] <fartofagony> a stand-alone c compiler. is there one?
[06:23] <scientes> also, its generally nicer to get sources with git
[06:23] <scientes> fartofagony, what do you mean by stand-alone?
[06:23] <fartofagony> or perhaps they use the linker of c too
[06:23] <scientes> gcc can target bar metal
[06:24] <scientes> and ubuntu also packages an arm cross-compiler in the amd64 (and i386?) repos
[06:24] <scientes> armel (EABI) and armhf (armv7)
[06:24] <fartofagony> aha
[06:24] <scientes> so you don't have to build it yourself
[06:24] <fartofagony> whew
[06:24] <scientes> if you needed other arches emdebian packages basically every sensible cross-compiler
[06:25] <scientes> in a very ubuntu-friendly format
[06:25] <scientes> there is also
[06:25] <scientes> dpkg: llvm
[06:25] <scientes> whatever, llvm
[06:25] <scientes> + clang
[06:25] <nemos> pam issues here with pop3, any help ? here's the log http://pastebin.com/i6PJ1cv0 and the pop3 config http://pastebin.com/FuFenXdc
[06:25] <scientes> fartofagony, what are you trying to do, may i ask?
[06:26] <nemos> authdaemond: pam_winbind(pop3:auth): pam_winbind_request: write to socket failed authdaemond: pam_winbind(pop3:auth): internal module error (retval = 3, user = 'xxxxx')
 a stand-alone c compiler. is there one?
[06:27] <scientes> build-essential, will give you a full-fledged POSIX build environment
[06:27] <ghostconn> dose kde support compiz?
[06:27] <scientes> ghostconn, yes
[06:27] <fartofagony> scientes: been studying c++ for a while now, and i got depressed when i read what asm languages were, so i built the desire to learn coding in nasm in linux enviroment
[06:27] <scientes> https://lwn.net/Articles/250967/
[06:27] <fartofagony> scientes: 20 years windows, life wasted on gaming and such
[06:27] <scientes> however i think you are targetting to low a level
[06:28] <fartofagony> yup
[06:28] <scientes> esp as ARM is getting big in a very big way
[06:28] <scientes> nasm doesn't work on ARM
[06:28] <scientes> and you should really leave the algorythms to the libraries
[06:28] <fartofagony> hmm
[06:28] <fartofagony> :(
[06:28] <ghostconn> kk, another question how Im running mint 12 with kde 4.7.4 how would i update to the latest version
[06:29] <fartofagony> scientes: youre probably right
[06:29] <scientes> fartofagony, this was a great video i watched earlier www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEfedtQVOY
[06:29] <scientes> meh, maybe that isn't right
[06:29] <iceroot> !mint | ghostconn
[06:29] <ghostconn> thers not a single person in that channel
[06:30] <scientes> but there is alot required for good code, and letting the computer do some of the low level stuff helps
[06:30] <iceroot> ghostconn: its on another network
[06:30] <iceroot> ghostconn: and mint is offtopic here
[06:30] <fartofagony> scientes: only problem is, its a woman talking
[06:30] <ghostconn> ?
[06:30] <ghostconn> how do i get there, sorry guys
[06:30] <scientes> ghostconn, irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help
[06:30] <iceroot> ghostconn: /connect irc.spotchat.org
[06:31] <scientes> ghostconn, right click on that and click "connect"
[06:31] <ghostconn> thanks allot guys. great community over hear
[06:32] <scientes> funny thing, is that that is how i get to odd servers too
[06:32] <scientes> cause its alot easier than the other ways to configure xchat
[06:33] <scientes> fartofagony, I personally recommend starting with perl, ruby, or python
[06:35] <becom33> I closed my skype window I see people coming online and going offline but I cant find the skype window . when I open skype from the new panel in ubunut a new window comes up . help please
[06:36] <scientes> !skype
[06:36] <scientes> !ekiga
[06:36] <scientes> ^^^^skype is insecure/defective by design
[06:36] <becom33> I've used skype in ubuntu . I just cant find where is hidden
[06:36] <scientes> ZRPT is where it is at
[06:36] <scientes> *ZRPT
[06:36] <becom33> in not on the dorks
[06:37] <scientes> try alt-tab
[06:37] <scientes> or hold the superman key and read what it says
[06:38] <becom33> scientes: I tried alt n tab doesnt work
[06:38] <becom33> whats superman key ?
[06:38] <scientes> the one with the superman cape on it
[06:38] <bazhang> super key= windows key
[06:39] <scientes> or if your on a mac, Command key
[06:39] <becom33> scientes: tried its just numbering up the dork menu
[06:40] <scientes> well i use gnome-shell
[06:41] <becom33> um sorry wat ?
[06:41] <scientes> !gnom-shell
[06:41] <scientes> aka, not the dork menu
[06:41] <scientes> !gnome-shell
[06:41] <penguinlink> whats the dork menu?
[06:42] <scientes> i think becom33 is referring to unity
[06:42] <almoxarife> penguinlink: you know, the 'dork' menu
[06:42] <ubuntu64bit> becom33: i have alot of the same problems lol so i downloaded cairo-dock and click the applications menu icon to find what i'm looking for alot of times
[06:42] <becom33> still I cant find my opened skype :/
[06:43] <almoxarife> becom33: perhaps its not open?
[06:43] <scientes> try alt-f2
[06:43] <scientes> and then type "skype"
[06:43] <nullcall> hi all i have problem i load ubuntu 11.04 on my P4 machine on Gigabyte mother board with 1.5 GB RAM it installed fine but might be prob with display its filkering....
[06:44] <scientes> nullcall, nvidia or ati/amd graphics?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: what video chip do you use?
[06:44] <scientes> nullcall, did it work on the livecd before the install?
[06:45] <nullcall> scientes: install
[06:45] <scientes> common type, based on the layout of the keyboard
[06:45] <scientes> i do that one all the time
[06:45] <CFHowlett> nullcall   pentium 4?  pretty old - as is your GPU I'm guessing.  I suggest you look at xubuntu or lubuntu.  both are designed for older, lower spec machines like yours.
[06:46] <scientes> but he has 1.5 GB ram
[06:46] <scientes> he could just use gnome classic or unity-2d
[06:46] <nopleaseno> My mouse lags. The cursor moves about a second after I move the mouse. I shut the computer down yesterday evening, all was fine. I booted it this morning, now my mouse lags. What is wrong, how do I fix it and most importantly who do I blame?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:46] <nullcall> scientes: all are installed perfectily all settings are fine but might be probliem with screen i m using 29" LCD and there i cant see menus or any thing proparly
[06:46] <CFHowlett> scientes   p4 and I'd bet older gpu...
[06:46] <becom33> scientes: tried but it opened a new window , and almoxarife it is open I see people going online and offline
[06:46] <nullcall> ActionParsnip: i cant see anything proparly i cant running any commands
[06:46] <scientes> becom33, click on the skype logo in the top right
[06:46] <nullcall> :(
[06:47] <malkauns> any conky experts here?  how do u make conky always-on-top?
[06:47] <scientes> nullcall, do you get the login window?
[06:47] <scientes> malkauns, yuck
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: press CTRL+ALT+F1  and run it there
[06:47] <nullcall> yes
[06:47] <scientes> malkauns, use htop or something a little better
[06:47] <nullcall> before login all are fine
[06:47] <becom33> scientes: there is no logo
[06:47] <nullcall> mean screen and ll
[06:48] <malkauns> scientes, i use conky for 1 thing, cpu ring indicator
[06:48] <scientes> nullcall, you need to select unity-2d before logging in, click on the ubuntu icon next to your name (to the right)
[06:48] <malkauns> scientes, pretty sure htop doesnt do that :P
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: log in to unity2D, may help.
[06:48] <ghostconn> where would i find my banshee plugins folder in kde?
[06:48] <ghostconn> whats the directory? i need to install a plugin
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: same place as in gnome DE
[06:49] <scientes> malkauns, what is cpu ring?
[06:49] <scientes> could you cant possibly measure system/user mode ring stuff
[06:49] <nullcall> ActionParsnip: & scientes: i'll do that n get back to you after that tx
[06:49] <syn-ack> hah
[06:49] <syn-ack> scientes, You don
[06:49] <malkauns> scientes, a graphical ring that shows cpu usage
[06:49] <research4oscar> i am trying to install webmin on my fresh ubuntu installation but i get failed due to dependencies.
[06:49] <syn-ack> I was thinking of process rings.
[06:50] <ghostconn> actionparsnip, i honestly cant find it
[06:50] <almoxarife> !webmin
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: its not compatible with ubuntu
[06:50] <scientes> malkauns, well anyways, you can use devilspie
[06:50] <scientes> malkauns, actually, apt-get install compiz-settings-manager
[06:50] <malkauns> what does that do?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | research4oscar
[06:50] <malkauns> scientes, does that do what i am talking about?
[06:51] <ghostconn> and in gnome is would be int he gnome folder? lol
[06:51] <scientes> malkauns, yes, you can do it with compiz settings manager
[06:51] <scientes> OR with devilspie, but that is generally for use with metacity
[06:51] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: thanks i will take a look
[06:51] <_nedR> hello, i was trying to compile latest version of vlc but it seems to need latest version libv4l.. i think these are available at packages.ubuntu (precise).. would downloading and installing these version break or mess up anything?
[06:51] <malkauns> scientes, how do u get a graphical cpu usage indicator with compiz settings manager?
[06:51] <scientes> malkauns, you can get conky to stay on top with it
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> malkauns: if you use devilspie, grab gdevilspie from googlecode. Makes config a lot easier
[06:52] <malkauns> scientes, how?
[06:52] <scientes> to satisfy your freaky ricer needs
[06:52] <scientes> in fact, i bet you could waste days messing with gdevilspie
[06:52] <malkauns> i tried window rules "(class=conky)" but it didnt work
[06:52] <almoxarife> _nedR: it should not
[06:53] <scientes> malkauns, there is a way to query the variables ties to a window
[06:53] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: just to be sure, i installed ubuntu 11.04
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: mixing debs between releases is not advised or supported
[06:53] <scientes> BAD idea
[06:53] <scientes> also, when will launchpad build for debian?
[06:53] <malkauns> scientes, i tried that but using the plus shaped cursor but it doesnt seem to recognize the conky object
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: its not compatible with any ubuntu
[06:54] <_nedR> thanks for replies.. ActionParsnip: what is the recommended course of action
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: there is a vlc ppa. Try that
[06:54] <scientes> vlc FTW
[06:54] <_nedR> well i want to compile vlc not get latest version
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Gnome-mplayer ftw
[06:55] <scientes> mplayer FTfail
[06:55] <_nedR> i mean compile the latest versions
[06:55] <scientes> either gstreamer or vlc IMHO
[06:55] <scientes> and i tend to lean towards gstreamer
[06:56] <scientes> but i like vlc's interface better
[06:56] <sacarlson> _nedR: ppa sometimes has daily builds but if you want to compile then you'll need to install all the -dev dependancies
[06:56] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: i meant to ask that if the recommended zentyal might be appropriate for ubuntu 11.04
[06:56] <scientes> _nedR, if you want to compile apt-get build-dep vlc
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Vlc remote is awesome
[06:56] <foobArrr> gstreamer? I thought that is a library and no player. Am I wrong?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: should be, yes
[06:56] <ghostconn> where is application data stored with kde?
[06:57] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: oh and the later version of vlc remote doesn't work over my android phone any more
[06:57] <scientes> foobArrr, gstreamer, yes is a library, but gnome's player that uses it is labled "media player"
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: ~/.kde for kde apps
[06:57] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[06:57] <_nedR> yes i did all that already ... but this one dep libv4l-dev is outdated .. as off the latest git version of vlc.. my question  really is if i download these from packages.ubuntu.com will it come back to bite me later
[06:57] <scientes> so the whole thing is basically known as gstreamer
[06:58] <scientes> in my world at least
[06:58] <sacarlson> _nedR: might try ppa for the libv4l-dev then
[06:58] <scientes> yeah do the build-dep after installing the ppa
[06:59] <scientes> if you are crazy about bleeding edge, you might also be interested in ppa:xorg-edgers
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[06:59] <sacarlson> _nedR: that's what backported libs in ppa are for to prevent it from breaking your system
[07:00] <_nedR> ok will look for a PPA..
[07:00] <_nedR> i am on oneiric ActionParsnip
[07:00] <almoxarife> scientes: I have edgers, its not that radical, without it I would crash opengl pretty often, since adding edgers I have not seen one issue related to graphics, I would recommend edgers to anyone
[07:01] <scientes> almoxarife, well, i have always felt that way about the kernel, but not quite--the latest stable by gregkh instead of torvalds
[07:01] <scientes> although i use torvalds
[07:03] <scientes> almoxarife, for very recent hardware, i wouldn't be suprised if that was true
[07:03] <almoxarife> scientes: kernels on edgers?
[07:04] <scientes> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:04] <__nedR> sorry got disconnected
[07:04] <__nedR> so PPAs won't come to bite me later.. right
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: sudo add-apt-repository ppa :ferramroberto/vlc; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:04] <scientes> they certainly can
[07:04] <almoxarife> _nedR: no, in general they will bite you later
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: remove space after the colon
[07:05] <scientes> also, by running from git, you are helping debug
[07:05] <scientes> and speed up development
[07:06] <scientes> (if you file bug reports, that is)
[07:07] <foobArrr> Bug reports? I prefer complaining on IRC. :P
[07:07] <scientes> foobArrr, hahaha, I do too
[07:07] <scientes> its faster
[07:07] <scientes> but not as effective....
[07:09] <_nedR> ActionParsnip, i am not interested in getting latest binaries of vlc.. i am interested vlc source code.. yeah i am looking for PPAs of libv4l-dev
[07:09] <robinsmidsrod> does anyone have a preseed.cfg that sets everything but disk and mbr install location?
[07:09]  * robinsmidsrod needs an example
[07:09] <almoxarife> any putty users? ssh/x11? I can't run a lot of apps lately that I would not have problems with before, not sure what I did to cause it, I think I removed something but I can't figure out what
[07:09] <robinsmidsrod> that works with 10.04
[07:10] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: do you have xauth installed?
[07:10] <scientes> >>>>10.04
[07:10] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: not sure, I will check
[07:11] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: installing that worked for me in getting x11 apps through to my local xming server
[07:11] <robinsmidsrod> via generic putty x11 forwardning
[07:11] <Stormshadow> hi all quick question -- how can i change or set the keyboard layout when switching to VT2?
[07:11] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: loadkeys <name-of-layout>
[07:11] <kjeet> hi, i was wonderign what parts of the ubuntu system are gnme
[07:12] <uBUXUBu> desktop environment
[07:12] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: but you might try dpkg-reconfigure console-setup for something more permanent
[07:12] <uBUXUBu> files
[07:12] <kjeet> **gnome... or rely on the gnome desktop environment
[07:12] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: installed on the server or the client? its on the server
[07:12] <kjeet> what happens if i rip it out
[07:12] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: on the device you're ssh'ing into
[07:12] <scientes> kjeet, alot of functionality goes away
[07:12] <uBUXUBu> kjeet, what do u mean
[07:12] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: yea, its there
[07:12] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: your client obviously must be running an x server
[07:13] <_nedR> kjeet: you get gnome's entrails all over your shoes
[07:13] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: your client isn't a windows machine?
[07:13] <uBUXUBu> kjeet, gnome is a bit slow but is really the best overall
[07:13] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: both linux, 12.04 client, 11.10 host
[07:13] <scientes> yeah just use ssh -X
[07:13] <_nedR> faster than unity though (talking about the desktop)
[07:14] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: oh, I've never used putty in that setup, only used it on windows
[07:14] <almoxarife> scientes: I am using ssh -X
[07:14] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: it just takes the pain out of the command line
[07:14] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: I agree with that
[07:14] <uBUXUBu> i like my unity
[07:15] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: I use it mostly because of the excellent terminal emulator
[07:15] <ghostconn> what is the file permission commadn for kde? i know for gnome it's gksudo nautilus
[07:15] <ghostconn> ?????
[07:15] <almoxarife> ghostconn: kdesudo
[07:15] <uBUXUBu> no thats not it
[07:15] <scientes> or pkexec
[07:15] <_nedR> sudoku?
[07:16] <robinsmidsrod> so nobody's got a preseed.cfg that skips everything but disk/mbr questions?
[07:16] <scientes> pkexec, pkexec
[07:16] <Stormshadow> hi robinsmidsrod..thanks
[07:17] <Smith_> Hey, I installed ubuntu, and I'm trying to configure dual monitors
[07:17] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: np
[07:17] <Smith_> I'm using the nvidia drivers with my gtx 460, but it doesn'
[07:17] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: there is a gui tool to create preseed.cfg but I've never used it
[07:17] <Smith_> doesn't let me move windows between screens, is there a way to do this in ubuntu
[07:17] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: do you have a name for that?
[07:17] <Stormshadow> i see that loadkeys uses ckbcomp ... does this use some sort of external key maps?
[07:18] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: I usually just say "loadkeys no" and my keyboard works (norwegian layout)
[07:18] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: it's kickstart  but the verison in ubuntu 10.04 didn't work
[07:19] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: kickstart and preseed are different things - same tool does both?
[07:19] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: kickstart is the gui that creates the proseed.cfg file for you
[07:20] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: well, from what I can see, it creates ks.cfg, not preseed.cfg, which are two vastly different config files
[07:20] <kjeet> scientes, uBUXUBu, its not really about slowness, im asking more just to understand what role it plays... linuxfromscratch seems liek overkill t figuring this out
[07:21] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: or maybe I'm confused it with something else,  oh ok but it creates a config to automate install, is that what preseed.cfg does
[07:21] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: kickstart is the redhat-derived autoinstall configuration system, but preseed is the debian-installer specific one
[07:21] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: afaik, ks.cfg is not very well supported on debian
[07:21] <_nedR> hello..i can't find any PPAs for libv4l-dev or v4l for that matter.. what is the next course of action
[07:22] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: well I pulled kickstart from ppa that supports ubuntu
[07:22] <scientes> kjeet, install htop, will let you see what is going on to a large degree
[07:23] <scientes> kjeet, also, strace and ltrace which it can use
[07:24] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: do you have a URL to that ppa?
[07:26] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: not off hand but this is the first I found http://serverfault.com/questions/295174/upgrade-the-ubuntu-puppet-package-within-kickstart-process
[07:27] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: also note I've never used it just looked at it and was thinking of using it
[07:27] <ghostconn> how would i get file permissions using dolphin
[07:29] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: well, the system-config-kickstart gui program works, and it does create a config file, but I need preseed, not kickstart, because kickstart is too coarse to handle the details I want to configure.....
[07:29] <Ububegin> Any editor which can open two source file side by side for *editing* not comparing..
[07:31] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: I've been working actively on my pxe network booting setup for some time now (using the awesome ipxe) and now I'm trying to minimize the amount of typing I have to do on each ubuntu install
[07:31] <robinsmidsrod> (because I'm soon going to put them on iscsi
[07:32] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: sounds cool,  I never seen ipxe before,  I have a standard pxe boot install setup for iso files
[07:32] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: the main benefit is that it supports loading files via http, which is so much faster than tftp
[07:32] <robinsmidsrod> (for downloading memdisked ISOs particularely)
[07:33] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: if you're into it, please join us in #ipxe
[07:34] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: GUI or text mode?
[07:35] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: I do believe I've seen someone with a vi setup that does that - can't recall where I saw it though...
[07:36] <scientes> fartofagony, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verilog
[07:36] <scientes> fartofagony, also, you can put asm in c code, with gcc extentions
[07:37] <Ububegin> robinsmidsrod: Yeah, I already do it in vim using vsplit.. But looking for a similar setup in a text editor of sorts..
[07:38] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: you mean a x11-based one?
[07:40] <Ububegin> robinsmidsrod: not sure what is x11 mean.. But I am looking similar to scite or geany..
[07:41] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: a graphical one, not text mode (read: gnome or kde)
[07:41] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: but no, I don't know about any, unfortunately - hope someone else can help you out
[07:44] <fidel> Ububegin: afaik Sublime Text should over a side-by-side view
[07:44] <uBUXUBu> is thunderbird an email client in itself or just a way to route your current already established email account into ubuntu?
[07:44] <Ububegin> robinsmidsrod: Oh, I am gnome based... Btw, I know eclipse can do that.. But looking a light weight editor
[07:45] <fidel> uBUXUBu: TB is a full mailclient
[07:45] <Ububegin> fidel: Sublime Text..hmm, will check it bro..
[07:45] <uBUXUBu> then why cant i set it up
[07:45] <uBUXUBu> i put a name in and it doesnt put @thunderbird.com after it??
[07:45] <fidel> uBUXUBu: ask yourself ;) the setup-assistant mozilla offers is pretty ugly i know
[07:45] <uBUXUBu> am i supposed to add in the the rest
[07:46] <fidel> uBUXUBu: why do you think a mailadress should end with @thunderbird?
[07:46] <robinsmidsrod> uBUXUBu: thunderbird is an email CLIENT, it doesn't let you create email addresses -  you need an email provider for that
[07:46] <keno10> hi
[07:46] <uBUXUBu> what does it end with?
[07:46] <fidel> its a mail client you can use with any mail-adress you have access to . config the account and thats it
[07:46] <fidel> uBUXUBu: its a mail-client
[07:46] <keno10> pls where is wiki now ?
[07:46] <uBUXUBu> ok so how and why do i use tbird
[07:46] <robinsmidsrod> uBUXUBu: but TB supports hotmail, gmail, yahoo and a bunch of other free service providers
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> so i put in my gmail there right?
[07:47] <robinsmidsrod> uBUXUBu: you can do that
[07:47] <fidel> uBUXUBu: we cant answer you why you use a program - while we can try to help you understanding it maybe ;)
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> so it routed my gmail thru ubuntu is that it?
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> routes
[07:47] <Ububegin> fidel: eeeks, is it shareware...
[07:48] <fidel> uBUXUBu: a serious mailclient should be able to access almost all existing mail-addresses (hosted by whoever)
[07:48] <uBUXUBu> well i only have 2
[07:48] <fidel> Ububegin: yeah - i remember a bloody license or similar
[07:48] <keno10> i cant find old style wiki on ubuntu.com
[07:48] <fidel> but afaik you can use it without paying (trialmode forever
[07:50] <kilonux> hello
[07:51] <airplanesimen> hi
[07:51] <keno10> hi
[07:51] <airplanesimen> hi
[07:52] <kilonux> I think I will try to reinstall my java stuff, it makes FF crash, I have a little questoin.
[07:52] <keno10> some advice ? where i can find old style wiki (as http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/ ]
[07:56] <kilonux>  All this is installed :   Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6  +  sun-java6-jre  +  openjdk-6-jre  + icedtea6-plugin
[07:57] <kilonux> I would maybe follow these lines : http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[07:58] <kilonux> should I uninstall everything first?
[08:02] <san04> Should one unmount encrypted drives by the commands given by the particular programms (e.g. luks using the luks-command: cryptsetup luksClose, or truecrypt using the GUI to unmount) or is it possible to unmount them by console using "umount" or just unmount them in nautilus. Is the effect the same or is it recommended to use the first-mentioned method?
[08:11] <socket> hey, im trying to install php GD (apt-get install php5-gd) it starts ok but then i get a 404 not found error, for the package file
[08:11] <socket> what can i do ?
[08:13] <uBUXUBu> try just sudo install
[08:14] <hiexpo> holaall
[08:14] <uBUXUBu> sudo install php5-gd
[08:18] <eric> does iptables run at boot time automatically on 10.04?
[08:22] <ZeloZelos> WOW! ive never seen this room so quiet b4
[08:24] <socket> uBUXUBu: it wants a destination ?
[08:27] <uBUXUBu> Try to use aptitude command instead of apt-get, which deals with dependencies better than apt-get.....sudo aptitude install php5-gd
[08:27] <uBUXUBu> socket, sudo aptitude install php5-gd
[08:30] <milad_> MILAD_ESF
[08:31] <prashant_123456> how to take backup of file in ubuntu ??
[08:36] <dalek_> Is there any way to prevent Windows 7 destroying grub boot loader when it does a Windows update?
[08:37] <Squall5668> dalek_ it doesn't iirc? are you sure it does?
[08:37] <scientes> Squall5668, IT DOES override the mbr
[08:38] <scientes> dalek_, its easy to just rewrite it afterwards, by using a liveCD, then chrooting into your installed system, and then doing grub-install /dev/foobar from the chroot
[08:38] <Squall5668> ah i see, sorry, long time since i used dual booting :)
[08:38] <shaibn> Hello :) When I run /usr/sbin/update-grub2 ; it creates a section in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ; which is titled /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; and has tons of kernels I don't have installed in my system. Why does it add them if they aren't installed?
[08:38] <scientes> dalek_, you could also backup the mbr, but that way grub wouldn't detect the windows installation and be able to boot it afterwards
[08:39] <dalek_> My friend has a netbook with dual boot Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. Occasionally, it will get an update which thinks it needs to re-write the MBR and I have to re-write the grub boot loader. I want to know, is there ANY way to prevent Windows updates from wrecking everything in the first place?
[08:39] <scientes> Squall5668, why its recommended to install windows first, yeah i don't run windows either
[08:39] <Unknown0BC> Hi, will ubuntu ocelot the latest version give problems installing on a new AMD like a Athlon II X4 ?
[08:39] <Stormshadow> hi all again...how is it possible to customise the 'ls' command colours in X xterm
[08:39] <scientes> dalek_, use autopatcher, which is way better than windows update
[08:40] <Unknown0BC> The prices on AMD seems a lot lower than for intel yet they perform very well.
[08:40] <Squall5668> scientes, yes i know about installation, i just didn't recall updates overwriting the mbr
[08:40] <scientes> dalek_, also, MSFT are asshole, like apple ppl, XP would never rewrite mbr, except on installation
[08:40] <scientes> Squall5668, yeah, i thought the same
[08:40] <scientes> I dont think it does either
[08:40] <Unknown0BC> Are the changes better for problems install on AMD ? Someone said intel works better, generally speaking.
[08:41] <scientes> dalek_, does /boot/grub/grub.cfg use UUID's for rootfs
[08:41] <scientes> dalek_, like root=UUID=jdfkljadskfl
[08:41] <scientes> Unknown0BC, that is a bunch of FUD, everything works on both
[08:42] <linux> hello
[08:42] <dalek_> I have to make a live USB flashdrive first. There is no DVD/CD drive in this netbook
[08:42] <Unknown0BC> scientes, I remember some years back you had a bit more trouble on AMD.
[08:42] <scientes> Unknown0BC, also, AMD helps coreboot
[08:43] <linux> you can download a live USB
[08:43] <scientes> Unknown0BC, not at all, main limitations of GNU/Linux: BIOS, graphics 3D drivers, broadcom wireless driver
[08:43] <scientes> Unknown0BC, amd came out with amd64 first, which its use on linux cause them to earn tons of profit
[08:44] <supson> anyone here uses bitcoins?
[08:44] <scientes> !ot | supson
[08:44] <supson>  ...
[08:44] <hiexpo> wow
[08:44] <shaibn> Anyone knows?
[08:45] <scientes> shaibn, do they show up in "older kernels" or the main grub window?
[08:45] <scientes> shaibn, cause it will boot kernels/OS's on other partitions
[08:46] <scientes> and auto-detect them
[08:47] <damarquezg> ...
[08:48] <shaibn> scientes, oh ok .. I do have an older HDD connected to this PC .. so you're saying it recognized that old HDD and that's why they show up in the menu list?
[08:48] <Unknown0BC> I might get a netbook whithout a DVD-drive, so I plan on booting from a pendrive. Can the installation shrink a windows partition ? To repartition, yet keeping the original installation of windows ?
[08:48] <scientes> shaibn, that is likely, yes
[08:49] <shaibn> scientes, I noticed it will do that even if the older HDD isn't mounted... how can I have it ignore /dev/sdb1 ?
[08:49] <scientes> Unknown0BC, yes, the installer can shrink a windows partition, or you can also install to SD or usb driver (although this is much slower)
[08:49] <dalek_> Unknown0BC, Yes, you can.
[08:49] <scientes> shaibn, look at the files in /etc/grub, which are compiled into /boot/grub/grub.cfg when you run update-grub
[08:49] <Squall5668> Unknown0BC you should shrink windows partitions from the windows tools to lower your chances of data loss, but yes you can shrink it like scientes said
[08:50] <scientes> Squall5668, now gparted can move data on ntfs, so its not as limited as it use to be
[08:50] <dalek_> There was no problem shrinking the win7 partition on my friend's win7 netbook.
[08:50] <Unknown0BC> Can I do a basic install from a pendrive without a network connection ?
[08:50] <hubertus_> anybody using smuxi and knows how to filter join/leave messages here ?
[08:51] <Squall5668> scientes i am aware of that, but im sick of loosing stuff
[08:51] <scientes> most imp is that you cant resize a partition if it wasn't unmounted correctly (if you unplugged the windows, instead of shutting down before install)
[08:51]  * Unknown0BC catches tips
[08:51] <scientes> you should always backup before installs
[08:51] <Unknown0BC> :)
[08:51] <scientes> and in general
[08:53] <Unknown0BC> I would like to do a basic install form a pendrive without a network connection if possible. Then later get all the repositories on my HDD and install more from there. I would like to be able to uninstall and install packages from my HDD without the need for an internet connection.
[08:53] <scientes> Unknown0BC, ubuntu doesn't require an internet connection, although you might want to periodically copy security update to the comp to install
[08:53] <mofaph> #join /debian
[08:54] <scientes> Unknown0BC, if you use synaptic you can save changes, and then use another computer to download the files, you can also manually download packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <scientes> or download the alternative DVD, for a large offline collection of software Unknown0BC
[08:55] <linux> kk
[08:55] <scientes> Squall5668, i'd just whipe the windows :P
[08:56] <Unknown0BC> scientes, great. However, my last Ubuntu install gave a lot of trouble with using repositories from DVD. It went smoothly when doing it all from the net though. I suppose this problem has been solved. It mounted the wrong device the whole time. Took  long time to get a work-around.
[08:56] <scientes> almost suggested that....
[08:56] <scientes> Unknown0BC, use apt-cdrom
[08:56] <scientes> aka apt-cdrom add
[08:57] <Unknown0BC> ah. Yeah. Well thanks. I think I am going off the the shop to get me that netbook. Or maybe a notebook. And probably and AMD, so much lower priced !
[08:57] <Unknown0BC> :)
[08:57] <tr0n> netbooks are crap, the batterys dont last long
[08:57] <scientes> ..... netbooks are generally Intel Atom
[08:58] <Unknown0BC> Although Intel always sounds so much better. Seems it is'nt really.
[08:58] <Unknown0BC> :)
[08:58] <scientes> tr0n, bullshit, netbooks have the best battery lifes
[08:58] <scientes> however the E-350 AMDs have some of the best graphics on a low-energy system
[08:58] <Unknown0BC> oooo. I am getting me a netbook for that good battery life.
[08:58] <scientes> ..for x86 that is
[08:58] <tr0n> i know someone who has one, the battery stopped holding a charge aftera year
[08:58]  * Unknown0BC catches buying tips.
[08:58] <scientes> tr0n, well, you need a 6 cell, also windows eats battery alot more
[08:59] <scientes> also, SSDs are definitely the way to go
[08:59] <Unknown0BC> what is SSD ?
[08:59] <scientes> instead of those harddrives they put on them now for stupid windows-related reasons
[08:59] <tr0n> better to wait for the spark linux tablet ;)
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a usb drive from arch linux
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> using unetbootin
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> and I keep getting error no configuration file found
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> and none of the fixes I find by googling are working for me
[09:00] <scientes> Hail_Spacecake, just use cat /path/to/the.iso > /dev/thedrive
[09:00] <scientes> be careful to get the target right however, and you have to be root
[09:00] <Unknown0BC> Do netbooks generally come out with Solid State Drives ?
[09:00] <Hail_Spacecake> scientes, do I want the drive or the partition?
[09:00] <Unknown0BC> (   :D   )
[09:00] <scientes> Hail_Spacecake, the drive
[09:01] <scientes> be careful you dont while your hard drive however Hail_Spacecake
[09:01] <shaibn> scientes, thanks! that helped me :) What I did was just add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true ; to /etc/default/grub
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: Make *absolutely* sure you have the correct device before doing that. And while cat and shell redirection works, I'd generally go with dd.
[09:02] <Unknown0BC> well am I ready to go shop ?
[09:02] <scientes> Jordan_U, so did I, but dd's syntax is wierd, and if and of are too similar
[09:02] <Unknown0BC> :D
[09:03] <scientes> and you have to use count= to get decent speed
[09:03] <scientes> *bs=
[09:03] <Unknown0BC> This would be my first brand-new computer. I always used second hand low end crap. Time for a change in life !
[09:03] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX #Be absolutely sure that sdX is correct, as it's the drive whose contents you are about to destroy
[09:03] <Unknown0BC> adios guys. Thanks for the input.
[09:04] <scientes> this actually happened to Linus Torvalds when he was developing Linux
[09:04] <scientes> and was a big part of him making it self-hosting
[09:04] <scientes> he whiped his whole system in the early days
[09:04] <scientes> (this was after GNU was quite a ways along)
[09:09] <mi3> hello
[09:10] <hiexpo> mi3, hi what you need?
[09:11] <mi3> nothing, hiexpo
[09:13] <mx> hey
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Unknown0BC: If you didn't know, there are companies that sell computers with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[09:15] <puneetgoyal> hello, I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and my software centre is not working
[09:15] <puneetgoyal> I tried googling it
[09:16] <krnl> i've a vps. when i type "df -h" in console, i get a lof of varrun and varlock type filesystem but all in 96M size, and all are mounted to /var/lock and /var/run. thus i dont know how much free space i have on my "real" hd. how can i determine it?
[09:16] <puneetgoyal> but it is not giving me any error too and all the problems that are listed in google are with some error......
[09:16] <mx> any body ?
[09:16] <mx> fuck
[09:16] <clone1018> most likely the top one
[09:16] <mx> hahah
[09:17] <hubertus_> usually your harddisk is /dev/sda1
[09:17] <hydrox24> mx: just keep the language down on this channel please, it's designed to be family friendly.
[09:18] <almoxarife> puneetgoyal: not working how?
[09:19] <gebbione> hi , after restore i see my screen stuck with some of the graphical elements visible but the unlock screen is not coming up ... anything i can do?
[09:19] <Tm_T> mx: language, please
[09:20] <hydrox24> gebbione: This is persistant despite reboots?
[09:20] <keno10> i need help with minecraft
[09:21] <gebbione> if i reboot i loose all the windows/application i had before hibernate ... and yes i am restoring from hibernation
[09:21] <keno10> it dont run tested with sun and open java
[09:21] <tr0n> ot | keno10
[09:21] <hydrox24> tr0n: I think it may well be on topic
[09:21] <gebbione> most of the times it works ... but sometimes it gets stuck for a few seconds before coming up with the unlock screen ... now it wont come up since 20 min
[09:21] <FourDollars> keno10: What is your java version?
[09:22] <FourDollars> $ java -version
[09:22] <FourDollars> java version "1.6.0_23"
[09:22] <FourDollars> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre11-0ubuntu1.11.10.2)
[09:22] <FourDollars> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
[09:22] <FourDollars> keno10: I can use this to play MineCraft.
[09:22] <FloodBot1> FourDollars: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:22] <hydrox24> gebbione: Hibernation is a continuing issue for linux as per a lack of support from computer manufacturers (It's known to be temperamental even in Windows) so I would have to simply recommend not using hibernate
[09:22] <linux__> a
[09:23] <hydrox24> gebbione: Alternatively, look into your laptops hardware and see if there are patches/workarounds for your HW (HardWare)
[09:23] <keno10> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0_04/jre/bin/java
[09:23] <linux_> hello
[09:23] <almoxarife> gebbione: what's wrong with 'suspend'? same issue?
[09:24] <keno10> java version "1.7.0_04-ea"
[09:24] <keno10> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-ea-b17)
[09:24] <keno10> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b18, mixed mode)
[09:24] <gebbione> almoxarife: my ubuntu box is a desktop ... and suspend is like leaving it on
[09:24] <sshd> hello
[09:24] <linux__> hello
[09:24] <sshd> i use ubuntu 12.04
[09:25] <sshd> after last upgrade i have problem with ssh
[09:25] <almoxarife> gebbione: suspend works on a desktop as well
[09:25] <sshd> i can not connect to any devices or servers via ssh
[09:25] <Myrtti> sshd: you might want to try #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <gebbione> almoxarife: doesnt stop the fans though ... i think
[09:26] <gebbione> almoxarife: it is like always wasting a lot of electricity as compared to hibernate
[09:26] <almoxarife> gebbione: it does stop everything except a trickle of voltage
[09:27] <gebbione> almoxarife: i ll have to try ... but anyway ... is there maybe some sort of short cut to bring up the login/unlock screen? something like ctrl alt esc in winzoz
[09:28] <hubertus_> maybe alt-f7
[09:28] <almoxarife> gebbione: probably not, the issue is restoring from 'hybernate', and it sounds like your desktop does not
[09:30] <gebbione> almoxarife: it does all the times ... for some reasons not this time ... (i hope it is not a ram issue) but in general i always experience something weird ... even when the energy saving kicks in ... then i go back to move the mouse .... the previous screeens come up (multimonitors) i can see al windows and then after some seconds the unlock screen comes up
[09:32] <FourDollars> keno10: Try openjdk-6-jre
[09:36] <morphix> hey guys
[09:36] <AbstractAce> hey whats this thing in the terminal that lets us edit sounds?
[09:36] <AbstractAce> someting with a
[09:37] <Benkinooby2> hi, my graphic card (laptop) can not handle two monitors, so i want to use only the (bigger) exernal one... but when i diable the laptop monitor in the display menu, the external montor won't get signals... any help ideas? google wasn't very useful until now...
[09:38] <gordon39> hi there
[09:46] <Barbo91> #chat-ubuntu-it
[09:46] <LjL> Barbo91: it's /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:48] <aleray> hi, I have created a bootable stick but unfortunatly my computer doesn't recognize it at boot, although it mounts well otherwise. Am I missing something?
[09:49] <mi3> aleray, it seems you forgot to change the boot order
[09:50] <mi3> the primary boot order should be your stick, then your hdd incase you want the stick to boot
[09:50] <aleray> mi3, that's the problem: the stick doesn't show up in the device list
[09:55] <fracting> Hello, libreoffice 3.4.4 from ubuntu 11.10 official repo works for me, and libreoffice 3.5.1 from ppa also works for me, but after i install Lo3.5.1, remove Lo3.5.1 and reinstall Lo3.4.1, it crash at startup. Should this problem consider a bug? This issue prevent me to reproduce my recently reported bug 966046
[09:58] <kiga> ciao
[10:00] <milad> hi
[10:00] <st1> anyone got hibernation working with swap file?
[10:01] <carlesoriol_> st1, yes. With no changes or special configurations
[10:01] <carlesoriol_> st1, in a lot of computers
[10:02] <st1> carlesoriol_: really? not even updating grub and initramfs?
[10:04] <st1> carlesoriol_:  are you using uswsusp or kernel version?
[10:05] <QA> hey all, anyone running cacti?
[10:05] <research4oscar> should i install proftp as standalone or inetd?
[10:06] <carlesoriol_> st1, no changes at all. Usign diferent kernl versions
[10:06] <research4oscar> at most two people will be connecting through ftp but probably transferring files throughout the day.
[10:08] <st1> carlesoriol_:  can you pm me the result of "cat /proc/cmdline" and "cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume" ? if you are on a computer that's using swap file
[10:08] <kiga> ciao
[10:10] <kiga> !list
[10:18] <rage> Is there an easy way to echo commands into an ssh session from a local machine? Something like echo "sh memory" > ssh router ?
[10:18] <rage> and get the output back?
[10:23] <hubertus_> simply do a ssh hostname command
[10:24] <puneetgoyal> almoxarife: sorry was away...it just stops working...didnt gave any error
[10:24] <quiel> is anyone here using midnight commander (mc)? I'm trying to change the colors, but the file ".mc/ini" is not respected by the program
[10:24] <rage> hubertus_: Works well for Linux sshds, no so well for Cisco IOS
[10:24] <icambridge> Anyone know why I would get "touch: setting times of `rdsfa': No such file or directory" when doing "touch /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/expose/rdsfa"?
[10:26] <hubertus_> rage: whats the issue with cisco ?
[10:28] <rage> hubertus_: If I try to string commands together it breaks
[10:29] <CalvinMcGee> I'm a new developer at this company and we have a deploy script. I would like to see the sources to the script, where do you specify paths to general commands?
[10:29] <rage> hubertus_: For example: enable, show memory
[10:29] <hubertus_> rage: so it works with basic one-word commands ?
[10:29] <rage> hubertus_: Yes
[10:29] <llutz> rage: ssh router "sh yourcommand"
[10:30] <rage> llutz: Can you write shell scripts on cisco ios?
[10:30] <llutz> rage: idk
[10:30] <rage> llutz: Yes that would solve all my problems :-)
[10:30] <rage> llutz: I'm shell scripting this thing from my ubuntu machine
[10:32] <hubertus_> rage: can it be an issue with the quotes ?
[10:32] <rage> I know it can be done. I've done it quite some time ago. I've just completely forgotten how :-S. I had to ssh into a ancient AIX machine and type commands into a non-scriptable interactive program
[10:32] <rage> hubertus_: Perhaps
[10:33] <rage> hubertus_: Just tried, '' "", no joy
[10:34] <rage> hubertus_: Cant use none as the shell would interpret the ; as a EOL
[10:34] <hubertus_> and without any quotes ?
[10:34] <hubertus_> ssh hiserver ls -l works on linux as well as ssh hiserver 'ls -l'
[10:35] <rage> hubertus_: Nope, as expected bash (without quotes) sees the ; and treats it as EOL
[10:36] <rage> hubertus_: then attempts to run sh memory
[10:36] <rage> hubertus_: Which fails obviously :-) since that is a cisco command
[10:36] <Mango_Man> Would anyone possibly know how to fix this broken package error? http://pastebin.com/mzv2EP1N I tried this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5962046&postcount=9) solution on the ubuntuforums, but it didn't work
[10:38] <hubertus_> rage: sorry ran out of ideas - and no cisco at home ....
[10:38] <rage> hubertus_: Thanks for the help anyway. Always appreciated :-)
[10:39] <rage> Next router is definitely going to be a Linux router. This particular off the shelf solution has done anything but save time :-)
[10:42] <Erquint> Can someone here help an ubuntu-noob with an uneasy question?
[10:43] <exe> can some1 here please help an ubuntu-noob [first time with ubuntu seedbox] with setup auto-dl irssi please ?
[10:45] <exe> plz?
[10:45] <Erquint> -_-
[10:45] <Mango_Man> o_-
[10:46] <prodnix> Hi guys, I need an idiot proof way of setting up a email server, I need it to receive and read mail via a UI of any sort, I have bought the domain and changed the A record to my cloud serverws IP but I cant seem to get it working. Any help will be hugely appreciated
[10:50] <prodnix> All the guides online are too technical and not very noob friendly
[10:53] <olegb> prodnix: maybe because setting up a emailserver right is a technical task and shouldn't be done by a noob :-)
[10:53] <prodnix> I had a feeling someone would say that.
[10:54] <research4oscar> what is the command to change a folders group setting
[10:54] <prodnix> Im not a total beginner but the guides are still quite confusing. My experience with DNS is letting me down i think
[10:57] <Erquint> Ok. Maybe if i type a big message -- someone would notice me: I am using Ubuntu 11.10 for like a couple of months now and i am REALLLLLY tired of permission system. I made changes to "sudoers" file, but it seems to be working only for terminal and i know i can make everything using it(and often do), but it eats my time hard. I am the only user of PC and give no phat buddy about security risks. It's just came to a state when i am angered
[10:57] <Erquint> so much that i just want to log off and never log back in Ubuntu again. Worst thing is that sometimes when i lack some privilege  Ubuntu DOESN"T prompt me for password and i have NO qqqing way to explain it that i am the boss here! Do somebody of you know how to override this behavior? Cause i like most things about Ubuntu and feel comfortable with it, but i desperately need to be a boss of my PC!
[10:58] <Erquint> Will rooting remove all that?
[10:59] <olegb> Erquint: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:03] <shawny> Can anyone suggest a simple SIP proxy server that can run on 8.04?
[11:04] <anwaya> If the ls command in terminal shows a directory highlighted in green and it's name written in blue , what does it mean..?
[11:05] <fidel> anwaya: colors heavily depend on your terminal-config
[11:05] <TeamRocket1233c> Morning guys! Won't be on very long.
[11:05] <research4oscar> what is the command to create a folder with a specific owner and group
[11:09] <olegb> research4oscar: mkdir && chgrp && chown
[11:13] <eypal> anybody from Canonical here?
[11:13] <Zizzu> i am from italy
[11:16] <Bartzy> Is there anyway to target a window that is minimized to tray (not in the taskbar) , with xdotool for example? wmctrl -xl doesn't find minimized-to-tray windows.
[11:16] <scotty^> I'm currently using XChat-GNOME on Lucid.  I'll soon be setting up some Precise systems and am wondering what would be best suited to Unity - XChat-GNOME or plain XChat?
[11:17] <ikonia> scotty^: try them, you can remove the one you don't like
[11:18] <scotty^> Yeah, I was kinda hoping to skip that step :) But it's not a big deal.
[11:19] <orflon> hello, I have a working ubuntu 7.04 on my machine. My problem is that I don't have a cd drive, is it preferable to make upgrades till the latest or install it from scratch? (is there any other way apart from usb? through the current system..)
[11:20] <scotty^> If I want to talk to the GNOME folks about Evince, are they in #gnome on Freenode?
[11:20] <Squall5668> orflom: install from scratch, usb :)
[11:20] <orflon> Squall5668, isn't there any other way apart from usb? I'm afraid a bit of the procedure and issues of usb-install
[11:20] <ikonia> scotty^: the gnome website lists the offical IRC channels
[11:21] <scotty^> ikonia: Cool.  Thanks mate.
[11:21] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Squall5668 : LiveCD or LiveDVD.
[11:21] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, I don't have a cd drive.
[11:21] <Squall5668> TeamRocket1233c he said he has no drive
[11:21] <orflon> can't that be done through the current system?
[11:22] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Squall5668 : I  usually use LiveCD's as they'll work on a PC no matter what.
[11:22] <orflon> at least skip some other stages like 7.09
[11:22] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Squall5668: Web install, if that's possible?
[11:22] <eypal> anybody from Canonical here? I have been trying to contact Canonical with a sort of business related thing but haven't gotten any replies :(
[11:22] <scotty^> Hmm, seems GNOME are seeking donations to "Help us make 2012 the year of accessibility!"
[11:22] <orflon> is there a web install ?
[11:23] <ikonia> scotty^: not really something #ubuntu is interested in
[11:23] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: If it's possible, I read something about a Solaris web install.
[11:23] <ikonia> eypal: IRC is not the medium for that sort of thing
[11:23] <ikonia> eypal: I'm sure you'll get an email if it's appropriate
[11:23] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, what about ubuntu?
[11:23] <scotty^> well not officially, but some of us users might be.
[11:24] <scotty^> but I'm getting off-topic
[11:24] <ikonia> scotty^: this is a support channel, so it's not anything to do with this channel
[11:24] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Looking that up right now.
[11:24] <orflon> thanks mate
[11:29] <Squall5668> orflon, until TeamRocket1233c find whatever it is he is looking for, might i suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation the part about "Installation without a CD"?
[11:29] <orflon> Squall5668, i'm reading that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[11:29] <orflon> seems that it does what I want.
[11:29] <TeamRocket1233c> Hopefully this should be of help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:30] <eax> when is 12.XX get in in public Beta?
[11:30] <orflon> should I need an ethernet connection for that? is wireless dangerous in terms of drivers etc.?
[11:31] <TeamRocket1233c> eax: I think 12.04 beta's already out. 12.04 final release is due out the 26th.
[11:32] <Lowfox> Can I get some help with grub and btrfs
[11:33] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: A wired connection would be a safe bet.
[11:34] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, in the tutorial it talks about a initrd file, but I can't find it.
[11:34] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[11:34] <curiousx> !it | curiousx
[11:34] <sipior> Lowfox: easiest if you ask a specific question
[11:35] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, ok found it.
[11:35] <curiousx> !ask | Lowfox
[11:37] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G now, I'll BBL. Bye! -wave-
[11:38] <randomqwerty> how can I keep ssh server installed and still never start it at boot but only manually?
[11:38] <orpras> Hello!
[11:39] <curiousx> aloha
[11:39] <Lowfox> I updated ocelot to penguin beta 1 and it fucked up my grub after using boot repair from penguin livecd - it now says no operating system. Can somebody take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901990/
[11:40] <Tm_T> Lowfox: please watch your language
[11:40] <soreau> randomqwerty: afaik, installed services are started at boot up. You can 'chmod -x /etc/init.d/service' to stop it from being executable, +x to re-enable it
[11:40] <Lowfox> sry Tm_T
[11:41] <Lowfox> no harm intended
[11:41] <Lowfox> "it broke my grub..."
[11:41] <Lowfox> :)
[11:41] <randomqwerty> soreau: that would also stop me from using service ssh start, to start the deamon when I want, wouldn't it?
[11:42] <Squall5668> root
[11:42] <soreau> randomqwerty: yes, you'd have to reset the executable flag before starting it
[11:47] <Dj_FlyBy> is there some kind of limit to the size of a partition inside Ubuntu. I just bought 4 2.5TB hdd's and I keep getting errors when trying to make them into 2.5TB partitions (tried both NTFS & EXT4)
[11:47] <stevegjacobs> join #joomla-dev
[11:47] <stevegjacobs> join /#joomla-dev
[11:47] <Pici> stevegjacobs: /join #channel
[11:47] <linux> 0
[11:47] <linux> hello
[11:47] <linux> anynoe?
[11:47] <Lowfox>  I need some assistance please: I updated ocelot to penguin beta1 and it broke my grub after using boot repair from penguin livecd - it now says no operating system. Can somebody take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901990/
[11:48] <linux> exit
[11:48] <ikonia> Lowfox: why did you not use an ubuntu CD with a compatible grub ?
[11:49] <Lowfox> ikoneia: like an ocelot one?
[11:50] <Lowfox> I didn't know it was necessary
[11:51] <Guest76203> hello
[11:52] <jayar> how do i find what drive i want to mount, via ssh?
[11:52] <ispirto> hello, is there a way I can drop packages starting with some string by iptables?
[11:52] <jayar> i know its sudo mount /dev/sd? /media/160gb but dunno which disk it is
[11:54] <detch1> when i enter phpmyadmin after i write the password                            ---------   Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed
[11:56] <Dj_FlyBy> is there some kind of limit to the size of a partition inside Ubuntu. I just bought 4 2.5TB hdd's and I keep getting errors when trying to make them into 2.5TB partitions (tried both NTFS & EXT4). Any suggestions?
[11:58] <jayar> Dj_FlyBy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[11:58] <jayar> detch1: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-fix-phpmyadmin-error-connection-for-controluser-as-defined-in-your-configuration-failed/
[12:01] <ldiamond> I'm trying to get that layout right: http://jsfiddle.net/ldiamond/UfG4J/
[12:01] <ldiamond> Basically I want the footer to stay like that, hidden below the page
[12:01] <ldiamond> the page content should take up 100% of the screen
[12:01] <ldiamond> The few issues I have is with the fixed header, I need to get the content to start below it rather than under it.
[12:02] <Dj_FlyBy> jayar: thanks....  sadly I am just not up to recompiling the kernel though.
[12:02] <ldiamond> I considered adding a dummy div to take up the space but it seems rather like a bad practice
[12:02] <rns> is there a way to save my terminal tabs?
[12:02] <ldiamond> The other issue is that if I add padding or margins, everything gets messed up. I.e. the 100% width now becomes 100% + whatever margin/padding I add
[12:03] <okanbasoglu> hi
[12:03] <sipior> ldiamond: i think you've mistaken this for a web development channel :-)
[12:03] <ldiamond> oh crap, I though this was #css
[12:03] <ldiamond> :p
[12:03] <ldiamond> wrong window
[12:03] <jayar> heheh
[12:03] <Squall5668> hahaha
[12:03] <escott> rns, in what sense? tried screen?
[12:04] <okanbasoglu> does anyone know if ubuntu has iptables service?
[12:04] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, you are probably hitting a gpt/mbr limit
[12:04] <sipior> okanbasoglu: yes, it does.
[12:04] <rns> escott, when I restart I would like to be able to open up the 15 files (each in a tab) in the terminal, without manually opening them all up.
[12:04] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: I didn't even know there was a limits, lol
[12:04] <escott> rns, you'll have to write a script to do that
[12:05] <jayar> i thought ufw took over for iptables in 8.04
[12:05] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, there are limits on the filesystem sizes (which are tunable) but based on where you are hitting i suspect an mbr issue, and that your partition table just cant make a partition that large
[12:05] <escott> jayar, ufw uses iptables
[12:06] <okanbasoglu> but it gives me unrecognized service when i tried to get status
[12:06] <danideko_> hey evil 101
[12:06] <jayar> oh i thought it replaced it
[12:06] <Evil101> wassup DK
[12:06] <jayar> althought you could still use iptables, ufw was easier or somethin
[12:06] <escott> jayar, iptables will never go away
[12:07] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: these are brand new drives used for storage... there is no distro on them
[12:07] <okanbasoglu> so i should restart ufw service instead ?
[12:07] <danideko_> wat u doing
[12:07] <Evil101> am doin yo mamma
[12:08] <Mad202> well ur mama was doing ma dog
[12:08] <smokie_> wow bad mom....
[12:08] <smokie_> can anyone help me out with installing a theme/appearance into ubuntu 11?
[12:08] <Evil101> While ma dog wz doin yr dad
[12:09] <Mad202> eww gay ape
[12:09] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, (a) check what kind of partition table you have. is it gpt or mbr/msdos? (b) you can check these limits but they are not likely the cause http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2#File_system_limits
[12:09] <okanbasoglu> all i am trying to do is share my wireless connection to eth0
[12:09] <Evil101> yr dad z a gay ape???
[12:09] <okanbasoglu> i found couple of iptables commands to execute
[12:10] <okanbasoglu> but it says i need to restart ip tables
[12:10] <Oer> Evil101, Mad202 , please stop the bad language from same ip.
[12:11] <escott> okanbasoglu, there is a ufw service which you can start but it doesn't have a running process. it just loads the iptables rules into the kernel and exits
[12:11] <okanbasoglu> hmm
[12:11] <okanbasoglu> thanks escott
[12:11] <Mad202> fu
[12:12] <okanbasoglu> than i think its fine to just stop and start the ufw service
[12:12] <escott> okanbasoglu, you can run "sudo iptables -L" to print your current rule set. if its more than 3 lines your ufw rules are already loaded
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, Thanx.
[12:13] <okanbasoglu> yes escott it gives lots of lines but not the ones i added
[12:13] <escott> okanbasoglu, are you trying to add custom rules? those go in /etc/ufw/*.rules
[12:14] <okanbasoglu> escott, what i am trying to add is "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE"
[12:14] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: There was no partition table on the drives (brand new). I was attempting to this with the "disk utility", but from the way you are talking I should be doing it another way. I've never made a gpt partition table so I guess I better start there. All the other drives in the server are either 1.5TB or 2TB
[12:15] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, you should use a dedicated tool for partitioning, either gparted (gui) or gdisk or parted (cli)
[12:16] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, so that should probably be put in /etc/ufw/after.rules
[12:17] <escott> okanbasoglu, ^^ not Dj_FlyBy
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> escott, i think uwf/after.rules for me
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> thanks man
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> ill check this one
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> thanks a lot for your help
[12:18] <escott> okanbasoglu, also you need to adjust the rule to apply to the correct chain. that may be the real problem
[12:18] <orflon> I just installed from netboot 12.04 with no problems during install. After rebooting I get a black screen... I read somewhere that's it's a graphics issue. any clues?
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !precise | orflon
[12:19] <smokie_> so can anyone help me with installing a new Theme to my ubuntu desktop or am i in the wrong place?
[12:19] <sysf1> 请问中文如何进入？不是？/join #ubuntu-cn ?
[12:19] <orflon> lotuspsychje, and that means..?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> orflon: join the ubuntu 12.04 channel for support
[12:20] <orflon> ah ok thanks
[12:20] <escott> okanbasoglu, for instance I wanted to add a rule to the OUTPUT chain, but since ufw binds to that I added my rule to the ufw-before-output chain instead
[12:21] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: already I assume the problem is something I am unfamiliar with. With disk utility it shows the hdd as being 2.5TB but in gparted it says 2.27TB
[12:21] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, thats TB vs TiB
[12:22] <anand_> hello
[12:23] <hot2trot> this is terrible, but does anyone know the mac or osx channel?  I tried #osx and #mac, neither of which let me join...
[12:23] <hot2trot> i'm a regular UBUNTU user I swear
[12:23] <escott> !alis | hot2trot
[12:23] <anand_> i need a help. how can i check whether theres is ipvs module installed or not? any help will be great
[12:23] <hot2trot> thank you
[12:23] <hot2trot> !alis
[12:24] <escott> anand_, lsmod | grep ipv
[12:24] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: ohhhhh.. well, either way I can learn about that later. For now it has worked out perfectly and now all drives are partitioned and formatted and ready for use.  Thanks
[12:24] <okanbasoglu> escott, let me check that
[12:24] <sadjow_> I'll ask a good thing...
[12:24] <anand_> escott: it show that i have ip_vs loaded
[12:24] <sadjow_> Please remove the unity in the next version of ubuntu. Put something better. Please.
[12:25] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, base 1000 vs base 1024. they market using the base 1000, but the normal base for block devices is 1024=2^10
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !unity | sadjow_
[12:26] <anand_> escott: i am trying to configure LVS on my ubuntu 10.04 but i am unable to get a reply from the real server can u help me on that?
[12:26] <escott> anand_, i dont know what LVS is?
[12:26] <tony__> guten tag liebe ubuntu community ^^
[12:27] <escott> !de | tony__
[12:27] <anand_> any one here with some working knowledge on how to create a Linux virtual server ..i need some help
[12:27] <sadjow_> !notunity | sadjow
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> sadjow_:you can always install lubuntu-desktop or gnome-shell
[12:29] <WilsonBradley> Anyone else use Live Linux boot of a USB  Persistance / Casper-rw ? Simple question.. Can I increase the Filesystem size? Trying to do an  update on it and it says it's to small to do a 1+gb partial update. Maybe I should just download the LATEST build?
[12:29] <escott> WilsonBradley, you dont want to do a big update on a persistent usb
[12:29] <wrektjet> msg nickserv identify tziona26
[12:30] <Squall5668> i suggest you change that
[12:30] <WilsonBradley> Ya, prob better to download a nightly Ubuntu ISO
[12:32] <liang> hi,all, when I install somethings, I have got err: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found , who can tell me how to install gtk+-2.0
[12:33] <curiousx> liang: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:34] <escott> liang, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[12:34] <supson> guys
[12:34] <supson> can someone go to https://sealswithclubs.org/ plz
[12:34] <supson> and tell me if it works for them
[12:35] <supson> i get a security warning
[12:35] <supson> that i never had before for this site
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> supson: firefox warns for some https sites
[12:35] <supson> does the same with chrome and ff
[12:35] <supson> Ive used this site a lot
[12:35] <curiousx> supson: this site dont have a valid ssl certificate
[12:35] <supson> i did just 5 minutes ago
[12:36] <supson> curiousx, lots of site dont, and i dont get this warning
[12:36] <supson> This is probably not the site that you are looking for!
[12:36] <supson> You attempted to reach sealswithclubs.org, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as sealswithclubs.eu. This may be caused by a misconfiguration on the server or by something more serious. An attacker on your network could be trying to get you to visit a fake (and potentially harmful) version of sealswithclubs.org. You should not proceed.
[12:37] <sacarlson> supson: it's certificate isn't matching it's site name so will flag
[12:37] <liang> curiousx, ok, try it
[12:37] <curiousx> verisign give you a valid certificate to your site in order to dont warning aboout the certificate
[12:37] <curiousx> but you have to pay =P
[12:37] <supson> but I was using the site just 5 minutes ago with no troubvle
[12:37] <supson> why does it do this now
[12:38] <liang> escott, thx I am waiting the installing
[12:38] <fidel> supson: i doubt we can answer that for sure
[12:38] <sacarlson> supson: the cert I see is for sealswithclubs.eu
[12:38] <Squall5668> supson this is not ubuntu related. 5 minutes ago the server settings where correct, now someone messed them up, it happens
[12:38] <supson> oh shit
[12:38] <supson> i thought i was on bitcoin
[12:38] <supson> channel
[12:38] <supson> haha
[12:38] <FloodBot1> supson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <supson> sorry guys
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> lol, the best ubuntu support happens when ops are ayway
[12:39] <Pici> riight.
[12:39] <supson> sorry guys
[12:39] <ikonia> supson: not a problem
[12:39] <Guest11822> who can explain what is ubuntu?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu
[12:40] <Guest14100> i was setting postfix dovecot and mysql for mail server but my smtp server not running after that and i can't send message .. can you help me ?
[12:41] <curiousx> i think noone can explain, you have to use it the more you can to figure out what is it, i thin isnt like flying but is some like that =P
[12:41] <adha> i was setting postfix dovecot and mysql for mail server but my smtp server not running after that and i can't send message .. can you help me ?
[12:42] <Guest11822> what differents between ubuntu and backtrack?
[12:42] <ikonia> Guest11822: I'd do a little more research backtrack is based on ubuntu but is targeted at different functions,
[12:42] <fidel> Guest11822: backtrack is afaik a live-cd
[12:43] <fidel> consider reading in wikipedia.org - as it offers tons of structured informations
[12:43] <Guest11822> who know "anonymous" team? can explain to me who is them ?
[12:43] <curiousx> Guest11822: the desktop and the software by default and the kernel
[12:44] <yzhd> Hi guys
[12:44] <fidel> Guest11822: how is that ubuntu-specific question?
[12:44] <yzhd> Is there anyone here that can help me ? (5 mins)
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> fidel: because backtrack has now an ubuntu variant
[12:45] <fidel> lotuspsychje: i was talking about the anon question
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> fidel: ok my bad m8
[12:45] <escott> !ot | Guest11822
[12:45] <fidel> should have pointed that more clearly
[12:46] <Guest11822> how ubuntu can transformation be backtrack?
[12:46] <fidel> Guest11822: try to rephrase - as this question isnt really clear - at least to me
[12:46] <ikonia> Guest11822: what ?
[12:47] <root____> exit
[12:47] <Squall5668> Guest11822: what is your native language? maybe there is a support channel more suited for you?
[12:47] <Guest11822> i'm sorry..
[12:48] <yzhd> I am going to instal ubuntu 11.10 on my windows vista PC. I have ISO downloaded, and I have a DVD+R. I'm going to burn the iso on the dvd and install it.. but I have a catch.. I shrinked my hard drive yesterday 40 GB.. and I want to install UBUNTU on that shrinked partition.. nothing else. I must not lose data, as I don't have anything to back it up on. Can anyone help me here ?
[12:48] <jrib> yzhd: leave the space you want ubuntu to use unpartitioned and then tell the installer to use the unpartitioned space
[12:49] <jrib> yzhd: by the way.  If you do not back up your data, then you do not mind losing it.
[12:49] <Ool> Hi, How to show or not the choice: "other users.. " in lightdm to log in
[12:49] <Ool> ?
[12:49] <escott> yzhd, there are lots of free online ways to backup crucial files. if you "must not lose data" and "you have no backup ability" I would suggest you lock your computer in a fire proof vault and never turn it on
[12:49] <Guest11822> thank you :D
[12:49] <kiga> !list
[12:54] <fdumpling> Hell MrBean
[12:54] <yzhd> I know, I can backup online.. but I have slow internet connection
[12:54] <yzhd> there like.. only 5 % chance of losing data right ?
[12:55] <fidel> yzhd: as pointed out earlier: if you consider your data important - backup them
[12:55] <adha> yzhd : you had better prepare a free partition and install on it.. move your data from that partition to your windows..
[12:55] <fidel> and dont calculate on % chances of data-loss
[12:55] <fidel> if you dont backup them - at least expect that you may loose something.
[12:56] <escott> yzhd, that probability can range from -8.632% to 469.37%
[12:56] <fidel> ;)
[12:56] <yzhd> have any of you tried the method I'm going to do ?
[12:56] <yzhd> shrink, then install on that partition ?
[12:56] <w83> hi, stupid gimp 2.7.5
[12:56] <escott> yzhd, yes and successfully many times, but i've also done it many times and know what to look for.
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> yzhd, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning/copying to USB?
[12:57] <yzhd> no
[12:57] <fdumpling> Hello ,MrBean
[12:57] <yzhd> doing it right now
[12:57] <w83> after this repository mess I can't even get 2.6 working and the themes are messed up :(
[12:57] <escott> yzhd, it sounds like you have passed the big hurdle, but we can't verify that
[12:57] <yzhd> what is tthe correct md5 ?
[12:57] <escott> !md5sum | yzhd
[12:57] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | yzhd
[12:57] <fdumpling> Hello MrBean
[12:57] <MrBean> Hello!
[12:58] <yzhd> I have a md5 sum checker already
[12:58] <yzhd> thanks ubottu lol
[12:58] <escott> yzhd, that link will have a link to the md5sums
[12:58] <yzhd> yep
[12:58] <yzhd> it matches ;)
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> Kewl.
[13:04] <yzhd> Guys, what do i do? I have burned the .iso on my dvd+r. When I am inside ubuntu installer, I select the first option? then I select the partition (shirnked one 40gb) ?
[13:05] <w83> anyone managed to install gimp 2.7.5 on u11.10 ?
[13:09] <sacarlson> w83: did you try this ppa https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[13:11] <sacarlson> w83: I'm getting this error from that one Depends: libgimp2.0 but it is not going to be installed
[13:11] <MrHeat> Hi! Can someone help me with this error:   sudo: Can't open /var/lib/sudo/lis/1: Read-only file system
[13:12] <Angtagapagligt> Hey does anybody have a link to a good Windows XP image? Need one to get this corrupt Windows XP PC fixed... The user doesn't find his CD anymore. -.-
[13:12] <jrib> MrHeat: "Read-only filesystem"
[13:12] <jrib> Angtagapagligt: offtopic
[13:13] <MrHeat> jrib: I think i f**** my sudoers, just it, but dont know how to fix it.
[13:13] <jrib> MrHeat: what is the output of « mount »?
[13:14] <MrHeat> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Q6eQBw6M
[13:14] <escott> MrHeat, read only FS suggests that your root partition is mounted ro which can happen if it is corrupted and you need to run fsck
[13:16] <MrHeat> escott: it can be because i edited my sudoers file, or just coincidence?
[13:16] <w83> sacarlson: did you manage to apply these additional repos and get the 2.7.5 to work ?
[13:16] <sacarlson> w83: I just added the other 2 needed ppa
[13:17] <w83> and it worked ?
[13:17] <sacarlson> w83: no still same error Depends: libgimp2.0 but it is not going to be installed
[13:17] <w83> :) me too
[13:17] <w83> thx
[13:18] <smokie_> hey guys, can someone help me on how to install a Theme for ubuntu desktop 11.10? like this Theme for example http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/give-your-linux-desktop-new-hope-with-this-gtk3-theme/
[13:18] <sacarlson> w83: maybe you needed to install the older one before installing the new one?
[13:19] <w83> as far as I understood you need to upgrade gtk - but that might be tricky
[13:19] <jrib> MrHeat: are you able to write to the disk now?  Try: « touch ~/randomfilenamehere ».  Does the file get created?  What changes did you make to sudoers exactly?  Did you use visudo to make them?
[13:19] <escott> MrHeat, the output of mount seems to contradict that theory, but i dont know what this xvda device is and maybe something weird is happening there. In any case sure its possible that editing sudoers could have been done wrong and that your error message is just wrong. i would check if you can touch (as root) a file in /var
[13:20] <MrHeat> No, i can't touch this... i think it really corrupted x.x
[13:21] <plm> When will be released the Ubuntu 12.4. The first day of appril?
[13:21] <smokie_> is installing a theme so difficult in ubuntu 11.10 that i cant even find a proper way of doing it by googling
[13:21] <bazhang> plm, late april. #ubuntu+1 for more
[13:21] <escott> yzhd, im wary to give you instructions given your previous comments on how you cannot lose data, but you might want multiple partitions. usually you have 2 one for / and one (~2xRAM) for swap
[13:22] <escott> !precise | plm the release schedule is online
[13:22] <yzhd> I have to ?
[13:22] <fidel> yzhd: please do a backup ;)
[13:22] <escott> yzhd, no you dont have to have swap, but its a good idea
[13:22]  * nibbler__ opposes the swap = 2xRAM rule
[13:23] <yzhd> I just inserted my dvd+rw.. then I clicked on format with a mistake.. now when I insert the dvd+rw.. it opens the dvd.. but it is empty. There is no way to unformat it? / burn the .iso on it now ?
[13:23] <escott> yzhd, this is why we want you to have backups :)
[13:24] <waxstone> MrHeat,  what type of drive is /dev/xvda1
[13:24] <yzhd> there is no way to unformat my dvd+rw ??
[13:24] <escott> yzhd, nobody wants to be responsible for giving you instructions without being present only to find that you had the wrong checkbox clicked
[13:24] <MrHeat> waxstone: It's a virtual harddrive ('i m running a virtual kernel on xen)
[13:25] <escott> yzhd, maybe but its probably easier to reburn
[13:25] <waxstone> MrHeat, ok ty
[13:26] <yzhd> escott, could you help me out with teamviewer ?
[13:26] <yzhd> just buring the dvd
[13:26] <sacarlson> w83: from what I can see it depends on libgtk-2  and onric only goes down to libgtk-3 so have to backup version of ubuntu to run
[13:27] <escott> yzhd, you might want to see if there is a LUG in your area. they will have install fests and will most likely be more than happy to help you setup a backup
[13:28] <w83> sacarlson: true - ok I'll stick with 2.6 for time being
[13:30] <yzhd> can't make the program to burn on my dvd+r.. I guess this is a sign.. getting a new comp in the summer.. better wait for that then -.- :(
[13:36] <fdumpling> Hello MrBean
[13:36] <MrBean> Hello! I'm Bean, what can do for y?
[13:37] <yzhd> do you know how to erase a dvd+r cd `?
[13:37] <fdumpling> Hi all
[13:37] <MrBean> \/names
[13:37] <bhavesh> how do I find on which drive my MBR is installed? (hd0/hd1 etc) for installing BURG
[13:39] <compdoc> bhavesh, gparted should show, but le me check
[13:39] <compdoc> let
[13:40] <bhavesh> compdoc: it shows boot flag on my /dev/sda1 so is that hd0?
[13:41] <escott> bhavesh, no
[13:41] <bhavesh> ok
[13:41] <escott> bhavesh, best policy is to install it on both
[13:41] <fdumpling> Hello MrBean
[13:41] <MrBean> Hello! I'm Bean, what can do for y?
[13:41] <bhavesh> escott: right
[13:41] <compdoc> bhavesh, my boot drive show the boot flag, and the others do not
[13:41] <sacarlson> w83: these guys look to be working on it so maybe just wait for there solution to apear http://askubuntu.com/questions/112142/prioritize-ppa-repos-with-the-same-host  but I see no real solutions
[13:41] <RobertPlummer> Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my taskbar buttons set to the left. I installed gnome tweak tool and it has pushed them to the right.  Can i get any pointers?
[13:42] <fdumpling> Hi MrBean
[13:42] <MrBean> /names
[13:42] <RobertPlummer> Setting things in gconf-editor seem not to work.
[13:42] <Pici> fdumpling: Please do not test your bot in here.
[13:42] <fdumpling> Pici, ok, got it
[13:42] <RobertPlummer> I've changed /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/button_layout to "close,minimize,maximize:" and I get no dice.
[13:43] <w83> sacarlson: I guess i'll wait for 12.04 :P
[13:43] <RobertPlummer> I'm currently running 12.04
[13:44] <RobertPlummer> Anyone? I've been googling for 3 hours, and I feel like I tried just about everything.
[13:44] <bazhang> RobertPlummer, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:44] <escott> !precise | RobertPlummer
[13:44] <RobertPlummer> ok
[13:45] <NetWalk> Hi there
[13:45] <NetWalk> can i ask a question about CLAMFS ?
[13:45] <bhavesh> compdoc: I just have one hard drive so it must be hd0
[13:46] <compdoc> must :)
[13:46] <gr33n7007h> sup!
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> NetWalk  i'm not familiar with clamFS myself, but ask up and wait if someone knows the answer
[13:49] <NetWalk> MonkeyDust:  i'm trying to use it in samba setup and it's not working well,  rights problem as i start clamfs, i really need help
[13:49] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:51] <NetWalk> i have to say that i use clamfs with extended ACL, and the culprint came from there,  lost of writing rights  ;-(
[13:51] <bhavesh> When I boot into Ubuntu I have a black border to the left of the screen. If I fix it with auto-ok (monitor button) then in Windows I have a black border towards the right side of my screen. How shall I fix it?
[13:52] <NetWalk> any sysadmin using clamfs on access scanning with extended acl ??
[13:53] <helo1> hello!
[13:55] <NetWalk> any other channel i can get help for clamfs on IRC ?
[13:55] <helo1> Using Ubuntu 10.04 (I have observed the same behavior on a 11.10 install as well), I am unable to mount a samba share as writable via command line. When I mount it using nautilus, it works no problem. What am I doing wrong? I used this command when mounting the share: sudo mount.cifs //nas2/storage /mnt/storage -o guest,rw
[13:57] <Xabster> Does Ubuntu 11.10 have any feature like Windows 7's audio mixer? So that I can turn up volume of the browser and down for the VLC and up for my radio and down for my game all at the same time?
[13:57] <escott> Xabster, the volume control tools should allow you to do that
[13:58] <compdoc> helo1, hmmm, after installing samba, did you log out?
[13:58] <sacarlson> Xabster: normaly each application has it's own volume control seperate from the full system mixer
[13:58] <Xabster> sacarlson, I can't find that controller in "radio tray"
[13:58] <Xabster> escott, I don't see them anywhere
[13:59] <escott> Xabster, are you running normal ubuntu?
[13:59] <bastidrazor> Xabster: click the sound icon > sound settings > applications
[13:59] <helo1> compdoc: Client or Server? I didn't need to install anything on the client. The server has been rebooted numerous times.
[13:59] <sacarlson> Xabster: you might want to install the gnome alsa mixer
[13:59] <Xabster> bastidrazor, I'm running GNOME, does that make a difference?
[14:00] <compdoc> helo1, what command do you use to mount?
[14:00] <Xabster> escott, I changed some stuff but I'd say it's normal Ubuntu 11.10
[14:00] <Xabster> eg. I'm not running Unity
[14:00] <bastidrazor> Xabster: in 11.10 those steps will work. and in 10.04 as well
[14:00] <escott> Xabster, so if you are running gnome shell click on the volume icon and click on sound settings. each running app should have its own level control
[14:00] <Xabster> bastidrazor, want a screenshot that shows it's not there in mine? :)
[14:01] <Xabster> God damnit
[14:01] <Xabster> I'm a fucking idiot
[14:01] <ola_> when is 12.04 live on update?
[14:01] <escott> Xabster, if the app is not currently playing sound then it wont show there
[14:01] <Xabster> I'm sorry, I need to learn to open my eyes
[14:01] <Pici> Xabster: Please mind your language here.
[14:01] <Xabster> Yeah, sorry about that
[14:01] <Pici> ola_: April 26th, if all goes as planned.
[14:01] <bastidrazor> Xabster: sound preferences in 10.04
[14:01] <ola_> thx Pici
[14:01] <Xabster> less than a month Pici
[14:01] <Xabster> \o/
[14:02] <bhavesh> helo1: I guess its alsamixer but its display looks quite old.
[14:02] <Dj_FlyBy> can a dlna device read from any filesystem type? For example I know it can read from NTFS but could it read from EXT4
[14:03] <dabbu> i had installed MATE,linux mint desktop on ubuntu 11.10, everytime i restart /etc/lsb-release this file changes ...its changes the system release to linux mint..any solution?
[14:03] <helo1> compdoc: "sudo mount.cifs //10.23.87.22/storage /mnt/storage -o guest,rw"
[14:03] <helo1> bjavesh: was that meant for me?
[14:03] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, whatever your dlna server can read
[14:03] <adha> hello ?? anybody here ?
[14:03] <escott> !mint | dabbu
[14:04] <Fraz> hey
[14:04] <dabbu> escott: i am facing problem on ubuntu 11.10
[14:04] <Fraz> how can i change the number of workspaces in 11.10?
[14:04] <Fraz> i want to have 6 or maybe 8
[14:04] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: well the dlna server (mediatomb) can read from any partition, just wasn't sure if the dlna device (my dvd player) would be able to see those shares
[14:05] <NetWalk> any sysadmin using clamfs on access scanning with extended acl ??
[14:05] <nibbler__> Fraz, right clicking the workspace-selector applet does not give you preferences?
[14:06] <Fraz> nibbler, no
[14:06] <escott> dabbu, yes because you are using mint packages. complain to them
[14:06] <auronandace> dabbu: mate and cinnamon are not currently supported on ubuntu
[14:07] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, the dvd player doesn't read the data directly off the drive it requests it from the dlna server so i shouldn't matter
[14:07] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: sweet. that's what I was hoping for
[14:09] <fernandocueva> I want to know why ubuntu 10.04 has flaws on the taskbar menu
[14:09] <helo1> What is the correct cli command to mount a samba share as writable?
[14:09] <fernandocueva> when I restart sometimes my username is overlapping the shutdown button and I have to readjust shape of the taskbar to see it
[14:10] <fernandocueva> how to solve that bug
[14:12] <mernilio> greetings fellow ubuntitarians!
[14:12] <mernilio> or, hello! :-)
[14:13] <f3ck4r> hi ppl D;
[14:13] <escott> helo1, samba are you/do you need to specify the uid/gid parameters
[14:14] <mernilio> The fist of death! Thats my middle name!
[14:14] <fernandocueva> that's a long middle name
[14:14] <compdoc> helo1, try it this way:     sudo mount -t cifs //10.23.87.22/storage -o username=user,password=pass /mnt/storage
[14:14] <mernilio> fernandocueva: maybe so.. ;-)
[14:15] <helo1> fernandocueva: I have the same issue and cannot find a solution. My workaround which usually fixes it for the session is to right click it and go to properties. Then switch the orientation to left or right, and then back to top. It reloads correctly after that.
[14:15] <helo1> escott: How do I find those parameters?
[14:15] <compdoc> helo1, and make sure /mnt/storage has permissions
[14:15] <helo1> compdoc: Which permissions? The samba share is shared to guest. There is no user/pass.
[14:16] <NetWalk> any sysadmin using clamfs on access scanning with extended acl ??
[14:16] <escott> helo1, samba doesnt support unix permissions so you need to specify who will own the files. if its uid=1000 then you need to specify that option
[14:16] <compdoc> helo1, the directory /mnt/storage on the target system needs to have permissions (where you are mounting it)
[14:18] <helo1> compdoc: /mnt/storage is owned by nobody.nogroup and has 755 permissions. Does it have to be 777 for it to be writable?
[14:18] <sheenzz> hey, i cant update my pc to 11.04. why?
[14:18] <f3ck4r> sheenzz: how can you can't?!
[14:19] <sheenzz> huh
[14:19] <f3ck4r> dist-upgrade
[14:19] <fidel> sheenzz: whats the output if you start the upgrade from cli?
[14:19] <helo1> escott: When I mount using nautilus all files I create are owned by nobody.nogroup
[14:19] <fidel> or the error-message you get
[14:19] <helo1> escott: I want to achieve the same with a cli command so I can script the mount process
[14:19] <escott> helo1, so set the uid to nobody
[14:19] <sheenzz> i just a error message
[14:20] <fidel> sheenzz: and the error is?
[14:20] <condor_> ciao
[14:20] <condor_> !list
[14:21] <sheenzz> find a error in a file which i cant remember the file name
[14:21] <f3ck4r> lol
[14:21] <gvandeweyer> What would be the expected read/write speeds on a C5 - R1/R5 for PERC H700, Exactly 2 Primary + 3-4 Additional Drives
[14:22] <condor_> !bot
[14:22] <lawliet> .
[14:22] <gvandeweyer> with 4 TB near sas 6BGps 15K 2.5'' disks and 2 146Gb SAS 6BBPS 15k 2.5'' ?
[14:22] <helo1> compdoc: when I tried setting the /mnt/storage dir to 777 it is now owned by root and will not let me change it
[14:22] <escott> helo1, uid=65534,gid=65534
[14:22] <fidel> sheenzz: try to start the process again and report back the error-message
[14:22] <gvandeweyer> i'm getting only 10 to 15 Mb/s
[14:22] <fidel> its pretty hard to give you hints if you dont provide an error-message in the first place
[14:23] <compdoc> helo1, how did you change perms? what command?
[14:23] <sheenzz> oh o.k one sec
[14:23] <condor_> grazie. ciao
[14:23] <Fraz> is it possible to lock windows in a workspace?
[14:23] <gvandeweyer> So, what would be the read/write speeds to expect from a read5 with four disks?
[14:23] <helo1> compdoc: sudo chmod 777
[14:23] <helo1> compdoc: sudo chown has no effect or output after the 777 command
[14:23] <MadsRC> Is there any other way to connect to a windows share from Ubuntu, than using the "Connect to Server" from Nautilus? Cause using that one allows me to browser and edit the files, but If I want to open one of those files from within a program (like VLC) it won't allow me to browse the share, only the local disk...
[14:24] <escott> !cifs | MadsRC
[14:24] <escott> !samba | MadsRC should have some example fstab entries
[14:25] <helo1> escott: Setting those options seems to have had no effect at all
[14:25] <escott> helo1, you remounted with uid=65534? what does ls -l say on the folder?
[14:26] <lvladi> .
[14:26] <compdoc> helo1, I think youre fighting permissions. why not create a directory in your user's Home directory? Also, using Guest is tricky. Add your username and password to samba, and use that until you get it working. Then, you can play with Guest
[14:26] <gear4> Why do I not have sound in my Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:27] <helo1> escott: link to pastebin?
[14:27] <escott> !sound | gear4
[14:27] <gear4> I've had no sound since Ubuntu 11.04, then it just broke
[14:27] <escott> helo1, sure
[14:27] <gear4> escott, i done that
[14:27] <gear4> in AlsaMixer, I can't change my master volume
[14:27] <escott> gear4, is anything muted in alsamixer?
[14:28] <gear4> Nothing's muted
[14:28] <w32stuxnet> hi guys, I just set up apache2, php and mysql on a ubuntu box hosted for me by a friend. I have access to it by IP, and can confirm that apache is running through the browser. However, I really want to get bind9 up and running so that I can point some domains to my virtual hosts.
[14:28] <gear4> But the master's colored red
[14:28] <helo1> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/902211/
[14:28] <w32stuxnet> Is there a good tutorial available for anyone in my situation?
[14:28] <gear4> And it's stuck on 00
[14:28] <w32stuxnet> I am having tons of trouble figuring out how to configure and run bind properly
[14:28] <escott> helo1, so thats nobody:nogroup 755 is that not what you want?
[14:28] <oogabooga_> hi, i'm running ubuntu from a liveusb i created using lili
[14:29] <IceGuest_77> liveusb thats neat
[14:29] <oogabooga_> and the usb is mounted on /cdrom
[14:29] <oogabooga_> and i need to copy some things to the usb.
[14:29] <peterklein> hi
[14:29] <oogabooga_> but it says that it's a readonly disk.
[14:29] <peterklein> jeed  help
[14:29] <peterklein> #need
[14:29] <oogabooga_> does anyone know of a workaround?
[14:29] <helo1> escott: It is exactly what I want except I can't delete, modify, or create new files in the share.
[14:30] <escott> helo1, are you nobody?
[14:30] <helo1> escott: no, I'm danny
[14:30] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: http://www.howtoforge.com/two_in_one_dns_bind9_views
[14:30] <escott> !permissions | helo1 then why would you expect to be able to create files in nobody's folders?
[14:30] <zykotick9> oogabooga_: use a different USB and copy to that (you can't copy to a liveusb most likely, you'd need something with persistance for that)
[14:30] <w32stuxnet> f3ck4r thanks!
[14:31] <helo1> escott: but the files in the share are to be accessed by 3-10 clients simultaneously with multiple having write access
[14:31] <gear4> escott, should I upload a picture of what I mean ?
[14:31] <escott> helo1, you don't want 755. sounds like you want 777
[14:31] <oogabooga_> zykotick9: is there absolutely no way to do it?
[14:31] <helo1> escott: yes but when I 777 them everything becomes owned by root... Do I want that?
[14:32] <escott> helo1, you need to specify a umask in your mount command as well
[14:32] <nibbler__> oogabooga_, some usb devices try to be even usable if in companies thet deploy endpoint security - so they forbit usb sticks. so these usb sticks register as cd-rom, and are not writeable by default. you need some modeswitching (u3 or how is this called) to get access to the real part of the stick, or get a proper stick
[14:32] <escott> gear4, more helpful if you could identify the hardware with lshw
[14:32] <zykotick9> oogabooga_: well, not that i'm aware of.  perhaps someone else knows?
[14:33] <gear4> escott, busy with that now
[14:33] <helo1> escott: And what user do I want that to be? nobody?
[14:33] <escott> helo1, it would be umask=777
[14:33] <gear4> k, escott, should I pastebin it ?
[14:33] <escott> gear4, we dont want the whole thing just lshw -C audio
[14:33] <gear4> kk
[14:33] <zykotick9> escott: umask=777 means no permission (is that what you/OP wants?)
[14:34] <escott> zykotick9, thanks. helo1 000 rather
[14:34] <gear4> escott, I got nothing
[14:34] <helo1> Thanks. Trying
[14:34] <w32stuxnet> how do I quit out of a byobu screen?
[14:34] <BobMarley_> hello
[14:34] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: ctrl+a+d
[14:34] <kirkland> w32stuxnet: F6 to detach (and keep your programs running)
[14:34] <kirkland> w32stuxnet: ctrl-a-k to kill everything
[14:35] <w32stuxnet> I'm ssh'd into this using mac terminal, I don't think f6 works for me :/
[14:35] <craigbass1976> Ok, I'm obviously stupid...  I'm trying to copy someones files off another hard drive onto my computer.  links are coming too, and referring back to the original drive.  I need that to stop, and thought cp -Hr would do it.  Not so much.  What's the right switch?
[14:35] <zykotick9> kirkland: "everything" isn't correct, it will till the selected screen (but it's possible to have more then one, and the others survive)
[14:36] <zykotick9> s/till/kill/
[14:36] <helo1> escott: is there any way to see what nautilus does to mount the share? All this seems so complicated meanwhile it works exactly the way I want with nautilus. Files are all writable and have a mask of 755 and are owned by nobody
[14:36] <nibbler__> craigbass1976, cp -x, stays on the initial fs
[14:36] <neo1691> hi everyone.. suddenly my wifi has stopped working!! Please help!! wireless network which is my ad-hoc connection shows disconnected in that applet..
[14:37] <gear4> escott, I got nothing
[14:38] <MadsRC> When creating a directory for a smb mount, should the directory be in /dev/ or in /mnt/ ?
[14:39] <f3ck4r> MadsRC: can be whatever you want
[14:39] <neo1691> Problem solved!! :D
[14:39] <MadsRC> Just wondering what best practice is :D
[14:39] <craigbass1976> nibbler__, that made a link as well.
[14:39] <f3ck4r> MadsRC: then /mnt or /media
[14:40] <MadsRC> Thanks :D
[14:40] <auronandace> MadsRC: /dev/ contains devices, /mnt/ and /media/ is used for mountpoints
[14:41] <peterklein> hi
[14:41] <peterklein> need  help
[14:42] <peterklein> hi
[14:42] <peterklein> need  help
[14:42] <escott> helo1, you could just run `mount` after opening in nautilus
[14:42] <auronandace> peterklein: then you also need to explain your problem
[14:42] <zykotick9> auronandace: i've been watching all the mount point suggestions rolling by, and have been bitting my toungue.  /mnt is technically only for "temporary" mounts - see "man hier".  Subdirectories under /srv makes more sense for permanent mount points.
[14:42] <yetone> hello
[14:42] <peterklein> which problem
[14:42] <gear4> escott, I got nothing for "lshw -C audio"
[14:42] <escott> gear4, use "sound" instead of "audio"
[14:43] <peterklein> which problem
[14:43] <Kyshtynbai> Hi everyone. When I copy files via nautils in gnome 2, when there're 2 files with the same names, nautilus doesn't suggest to rename the file I copy. How do I fix it?
[14:43] <gear4> kk
[14:44] <peterklein> need  help
[14:44] <craigbass1976> I'm worried that after I copy this and wipe the original drive, I won't have any files because the link are being copied instead of the actual files.
[14:44] <peterklein> hi
[14:44] <peterklein> need  help
[14:44] <f3ck4r> gear4: are r user been part of the plugdev group?!
[14:45] <nibbler__> craigbass1976, it makes the link maybe, but it does not follow it
[14:45] <gear4> f3ck4r, sorry ? >.>
[14:45] <jatt> hi why are the following filesystems being loaded (ubuntu 11.10)?
[14:45] <jatt> [22513.017929] QNX4 filesystem 0.2.3 registered.
[14:45] <jatt> [22513.068999] Btrfs loaded
[14:45] <auronandace> peterklein: to get help you need to explain what you need help with
[14:45] <jatt> I only use ext4
[14:45] <gear4> I don't understand ..
[14:45] <helo1> escott: I guess nautilus does it some other way, which explains why the mount command is giving me so much trouble. There is no entry for the nautilus mounted version when I run the mount command
[14:45] <f3ck4r> gear4: you have some problem with your audio/sound right?!
[14:45] <peterklein> auronandace: nobody will help me!!! :(
[14:46] <gear4> f3ck4r, yes
[14:46] <monser> hello all
[14:46] <escott> helo1, i thought it would appear in gvfs, but it might just be running everything through smbclient
[14:46] <monser> how to check what is my kernel from terminal?
[14:46] <escott> jatt, blacklist them if you want
[14:46] <auronandace> peterklein: nobody can read your mind, how can they help if you don't tell them what you need help with
[14:46] <jatt> escott: how?
[14:46] <zykotick9> monser: "uname -a" is one way
[14:46] <peterklein> auronandace: i do not need help i only have a question
[14:47] <zykotick9> monser: "uname -r" is correct answer
[14:47] <gear4> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/902232/
[14:47] <f3ck4r> gear4: so, make sure your user are in the plugdev group
[14:47] <helo1> escott: there is this entry "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/danny/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=danny)" But it is there both with the share mounted and after ejecting it...
[14:47] <auronandace> peterklein: then why haven't you asked your question?
[14:47] <peterklein> auronandace: oh did i forgot
[14:47] <gear4> f3ck4r, nothing is working
[14:48] <gear4> Not even root
[14:48] <peterklein> shit
[14:48] <f3ck4r> gear4: and if it is, try to config the audio tho the alsamixer
[14:48] <gear4> I can
[14:48] <gear4> I can't
[14:48] <gear4> f3ck4r, it is
[14:48] <peterklein> well i will explain something about me and my problem
[14:48] <f3ck4r> gear4: id and then u can confirm
[14:48] <gear4> f3ck4r, I can't change anything
[14:48] <escott> jatt, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:48] <peterklein> I am 21-years old . .. i was born in oldenburg its a town in middle germany
[14:49] <peterklein> i have got  birth on  ß7.04.1988
[14:49] <f3ck4r> gear4:  just sudo alsamixer
[14:49] <escott> gear4, and you say it was working before?
[14:49] <jatt> escott: thanks
[14:49] <peterklein> and my name is norwegian name
[14:49] <Pici> peterklein: Does your question have anythign to do with Ubuntu?
[14:49] <peterklein> Peter and little
[14:49] <peterklein> Pici: yes
[14:49] <gear4> f3ck4r, not working ..
[14:49] <Pici> peterklein: Please keep it on one-line then.
[14:49] <f3ck4r> ok
[14:49] <gear4> escott, yes, perfectly
[14:50] <peterklein> Pici: sure why do you think my question is not about ubuntu. i am in #ubuntu channel
[14:50] <escott> gear4, did you change anything in the meantime, can you identify what might have been updated?
[14:50] <Pici> peterklein: Because it doesn't sound like one so far.
[14:50] <f3ck4r> gear4: what is the exactly output
[14:50] <peterklein> Pici: i have to say about me much that my people do understand me and my thinkings
[14:50] <gear4> escott, I changed nothing
[14:50] <gear4> f3ck4r, can't change anything
[14:51] <Pici> peterklein: Just ask the question.
[14:51] <peterklein> ok
[14:51] <auronandace> peterklein: no you don't, just state what you need help with
[14:51] <peterklein> Ok: i need help with UBUNTU
[14:51] <auronandace> peterklein: you can stop trolling now please
[14:51] <f3ck4r> the output when u try to open the sound settings?!
[14:51] <gear4> f3ck4r, can't change anything
[14:51] <_Marcus> auronandace: Just ignore the troll
[14:52] <Pici> peterklein: You'll need to be more specific than that.
[14:52] <peterklein> i found a ubuntu 8.04 cd yesterday
[14:52] <gear4> f3ck4r, it opens
[14:52] <gear4> f3ck4r, but I can't change the values
[14:52] <monser> what is the command in the terminal which will reveal what is my kernal version
[14:52] <peterklein> and i installed it. now he told me: there is something to upgrade
[14:52] <gear4> f3ck4r, they're all red
[14:52] <craigbass1976> mongy, uname -a
[14:52] <peterklein> a window came and told me" please upgrade to 11.10
[14:52] <Pici> monser: Didn't zykotick9 answer you earlier?
[14:52] <zykotick9> Pici: i thought so, but guess no ;)
[14:52] <monser> I did not see it
[14:52] <monser> did he?
[14:53] <f3ck4r> lspci then
[14:53] <Pici> monser: uname -r
[14:53] <MadsRC> Okay, this is wierd. When connecting to my NAS with smb share using Nautilus I can only squeeze out 7.8MB/s, but being on a 100mbit, that was acceptable... But now that I've mounted it through fstab instead, and everything is owned by root, I can now transfer with 12MB/s...
[14:53] <peterklein> a window came and told me" please upgrade to 11.10
[14:53] <monser> ok Thank you
[14:53] <peterklein> i found a ubuntu 8.04 cd yesterday
[14:53] <peterklein> and i installed it. now he told me: there is something to upgrade
[14:53] <peterklein> a window came and told me" please upgrade to 11.10
[14:54] <dell> hello everyone
[14:54] <LjL> peterklein: the Desktop version of 8.04 is no longer supported.
[14:54] <_Marcus> Hello dell
[14:54] <f3ck4r> dell: hi
[14:54] <dell> how's the morning so far?
[14:54] <peterklein> LjL nooo?
[14:54] <LjL> peterklein: you should either upgrade, or install a recent version afresh
[14:54] <f3ck4r> dell: nice
[14:54] <peterklein> LjL: oh this is shit
[14:55] <_Marcus> peterklein: Language please
[14:55] <mhsy> peterklein, it's 4 years old
[14:55] <peterklein> and the newer versions of ubuntu are they free?
[14:55] <mhsy> yes
[14:55] <_Marcus> peterklein: I don't think any Ubuntu cost
[14:55] <peterklein> ok and do they have gnome
[14:55] <w32stuxnet> so, if I set up bind on my server, and then set in one of its zone files ns1 to be pointed to 127.0.0.1
[14:55] <w32stuxnet> will that work?
[14:55] <mhsy> technically yes
[14:55] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: it is
[14:55] <mhsy> you can install it
[14:56] <peterklein> ok and do they have gnome
[14:56] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: if u need some help lemme know
[14:56] <_Marcus> peterklein: They come with Unity, but you can remove it and install Gnome(I did this on a virtual machine)
[14:56] <peterklein> ok but i need the old gnome 2
[14:56] <mhsy> it comes with unity by default, but you can install gnome-shell and/or gnome-panel
[14:56] <f3ck4r> peterklein: then install
[14:56] <kuwrefem> peterklein:  or you can install 10.04 which comes with gnome 2.3x by default
[14:56] <Squall5668> !notunity | peterklein
[14:56] <peterklein> why not 11.10 with gnome 2???
[14:57] <auronandace> !gnome2 | peterklein
[14:57] <dell> 10.04 will not be maintained much longer though will it
[14:57] <_Marcus> peterklein: Because they removed it and added Unity
[14:57] <peterklein> oh shit they stopped gnome2 ???
[14:57] <f3ck4r> peterklein: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[14:57] <zykotick9> dell: another year for desktop
[14:57] <_Marcus> !language | peterklein
[14:57] <w32stuxnet> thanks f3ck4r
[14:57] <f3ck4r> even 12.04 BETA 2 can use gnome 2
[14:57] <dell> oh I thought they dropped the lts support when the new one released sorry
[14:57] <_Marcus> f3ck4r: That's for 12.04, I think he wants 11.10
[14:58] <helo1> escott: could I use smbclient?
[14:58] <f3ck4r> doesn't matter the version will work on all version
[14:58] <zykotick9> f3ck4r: 12.04 has gnome2?  i dont' think so
[14:58] <mhsy> fallback mode for gnome3 is gnome2
[14:58] <gear4> escott, still waiting ..
[14:58] <f3ck4r> zykotick9: im using right now
[14:58] <mhsy> you can select it in lightdm
[14:58] <zykotick9> f3ck4r: fallback != gnome2
[14:59] <mhsy> looks the same
[14:59] <peterklein> omg
[14:59] <peterklein> i saw ubuntu 11.10 uses unity
[14:59] <f3ck4r> zykotick9: fallback is full of bugs this one is more polite
[14:59] <mhsy> peterklein, are you looking for anything in particular or just the interface?
[14:59] <ratcheer> mhsy: It looks like Gnome2, but it is actually a shell of Gnome3
[14:59] <dell> I'm glad I don't use gnome
[14:59] <waxstone> smells a troll
[14:59] <mhsy> ^
[14:59] <zykotick9> ratcheer: ahhh, thank you.
[14:59] <dell> waxstone: where?
[14:59] <peterklein> which ubuntu uses unity
[14:59] <escott> gear4, its hard to say when you haven't been able to tell us anything useful
[14:59] <f3ck4r> =p
[14:59] <_Marcus> peterklein: You must be hard at hearing. So let's try this in a way you can understand. YOU CAN SWITCH TO GNOME
[14:59] <gear4> escott, what can I say ..
[14:59] <auronandace> !unity | peterklein
[14:59] <escott> gear4, check dmesg
[15:00] <f3ck4r> unity is crappy
[15:00] <gear4> My /dev/audio and /dev/dsp etc.etc. are all missing
[15:00] <f3ck4r> i don't like it
[15:00] <peterklein> unity is crappy
[15:00] <peterklein> you are right
[15:00] <peterklein> unity is shit
[15:00] <dell> f3ck4r: so switch to something else
[15:00] <f3ck4r> but u know u can dling and use whatever wm u want it
[15:00] <waxstone> !ops| peterklein
[15:00] <auronandace> lets all grow up and stop name-calling and acknowledge that there are alternatives
[15:00] <f3ck4r> dell: yeah i do it already
[15:00] <jpds> peterklein: No.
[15:01] <peterklein> jpds: what no
[15:01] <dell> kick 1 of the day
[15:01] <gear4> escott, would this work: dmesg | grep audio
[15:01] <f3ck4r> hehehe
[15:02] <felipe_araujo> anyone here know the server of linux from scratch?
[15:02] <auronandace> !alis | felipe_araujo
[15:03] <_Marcus> felipe_araujo: Try their website
[15:03] <dell> felipe_araujo: google would be your friend use it
[15:03] <escott> helo1, using the wrong mount options evidently "mount -t cifs -o guest,uid=65534,gid=65534,file_mode=0666,dir_mode=0777 //buffalo/Shared /media/test/"
[15:03] <felipe_araujo> thx all
[15:03] <_Marcus> dell: Everything asked here can be found on Google if you search hard enough :P
[15:04] <gear4> escott, would this work: dmesg | grep audio
[15:04] <anti_theocon> anyone here tried to install teamspeak client on latest ubuntu?
[15:04] <dell> _Marcus: he was asking about something non related to Ubuntu thats why I said that
[15:04] <escott> gear4, i don't know. have you tried it? does it tell you anything useful?
[15:04] <gear4> escott, i tried it, nothing came out
[15:04] <_Marcus> dell: Ah
[15:04] <anti_theocon> it crashes upon connect
[15:04] <zykotick9> anti_theocon: what version is "latest ubuntu" for you?
[15:05] <dell> I have to admit I am actually liking Ubuntu with fluxbox :-)
[15:05] <anti_theocon> i can't remember but i just downl;oaded the latest stable release last week
[15:05] <eLiam> hi, I'm trying to forward all incoming packets on port 25 to an internal mail host using DNAT with no luck.  Can anyone help me? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/902273/)
[15:05] <f3ck4r> dell: =p
[15:05] <zykotick9> anti_theocon: ok, just checking you wheren't talking about the beta
[15:05] <anti_theocon> the client is in the repositories and it installs nice, but crashes when connecting to a server
[15:05] <zykotick9> anti_theocon: fyi "lsb_release -a" in a terminal will show you what version you have
[15:05] <dell> although the newest kernel dropped the module for my audio
[15:06] <anti_theocon> tnx!
[15:06] <dell> gonna have to recompile it and add the module back to it
[15:06] <hujiafu> just passing through
[15:06] <helo1> escott: In the command you just sent, can you explain what the uid gid file_mode dir_mode actually set? Are they settings for the creation of new files? or the user spoofed when reading? I am a little confused by all that.
[15:06] <f3ck4r> hard work ;>
[15:07] <CharminTheMoose> Are ubuntu remixes that change configuration files/ add/remove packages from official ubuntu repos supported here?
[15:07] <i7c> what skype alternatives for ubuntu can be recommended?
[15:07] <yzhdh> Hi guys. I just booted ubuntu 11.10 from live cd. I'm in ubuntu right now. I want to install it, when I click on the icon on the home screen  @install ubuntu 11.10@ nothing happens
[15:07] <yzhdh> any idea _
[15:07] <escott> helo1, samba (without extensions) doesn't support unix permissions. so you have to tell it what permissions to set. here we are setting the owning user/group, and specifying a permission set for files and directories
[15:08] <escott> i7c, there are a number of sip phone clients. gnome-meeting is one
[15:08] <zykotick9> i7c: the !skype factoid suggest ekiga (i wouldn't call it an alternative however)
[15:09] <dell> what's the deal with tis near-by thing in my empathy?
[15:09] <dabbu> how to check if the connected wifi has internet access?
[15:09] <yzhdh> anyone _
[15:09] <helo1> escott: So those are permissions for newly created files then? Also, using the new command you sent me produces the same issue. Read only.
[15:09] <i7c> escott, zykotick9: mhm okay, i'll have a look. i'm looking only for video calls. calls to landlines etc is not necessary for me.
[15:10] <ratcheer> dabbu: Disconnect your ethernet connection, then see if you still have access.
[15:10] <escott> helo1, those are permissions for all files in the share. if you are connecting to a samba server that has unix permission extensions apparently you can try using noperm
[15:10] <yzhdh> ....
[15:10] <yzhdh> hello
[15:10] <yzhdh> >D
[15:11] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: only official ubuntu releases are supported in #ubuntu (ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu)
[15:11] <gear4> escott, can I try: [ ! -f './purgeconfig.sh' ] && wget http://purgeconfig.sf.net/ purgeconfig.sh && sudo bash
[15:11] <gear4> ./purgeconfig.sh alsa=base alsa-utils linux-sound-base libasound2
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> dabbu  ping to some website to find out
[15:11] <gear4> Sry, my client newlines ..
[15:11] <escott> gear4, i dont know what that does/can't advise you on that
[15:12] <gear4> It re-installs ALSA
[15:12] <gear4> Safely *
[15:12] <helo1> escott: The server is Ubuntu running samba out of the box with minimal changes to the .conf. Does that support extensions?
[15:12] <escott> helo1, don't know
[15:12] <gear4> escott, It re-installs ALSA
[15:12] <gear4> escott, Safely *
[15:14] <gear4> .. nevermind
[15:14] <gear4> bb
[15:14] <helo1> escott: thanks for all your help... Still stuck :(
[15:17] <LifeMask> hey guys
[15:18] <shammancer> Hello everyone. Is there a way to combine separate partitions. While I installed Ubuntu on my computer I made a separate boot partition and now it is running out of space. Is there a way to recombine it with the main partition?
[15:19] <LifeMask> hey shammancer
[15:19] <LifeMask> how's it going
[15:19] <coderhs> how about u make a logical volume using those two physical volume
[15:19] <bastidrazor> shammancer: you could uninstall unused/old kernels
[15:19] <monser> boot partition should be around 200mb
[15:20] <Newb10101> Hey guys this might be a newb question, but I've searched forums and tried many different things. I put a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 on a win 7 computer and it installed correctly. I could NOT get anything beyond 640x480 resolution. I tried installing additional drivers for my Nvidia gt430 GPU and the Nvidia X server application didn't do me any good. Now I go to boot into Ubuntu this morning, and it won't even boot. It gives me
[15:20] <shammancer> How can I tell which one is unused?
[15:20] <shammancer> are?
[15:20] <coderhs> shammancer: u could use, gparted but i am not sure if the files will be lost or note
[15:20] <bastidrazor> shammancer: normally, you're using the highest version so anything below that is old/unused
[15:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Newb10101: your message was cut off after "It gives me"
[15:20] <monser> boot partition contains very few files
[15:20] <monser> this is what i think
[15:20] <Newb10101> it gives me a bout 3 lines of text
[15:21] <bastidrazor> shammancer: do you use synaptic or apt-get for package management?
[15:21] <shammancer> apt-get
[15:21] <monser> you can use gparted to resize the boot partition
[15:21] <monser> and add the unused space to your root or home partition
[15:22] <Newb10101> 13.9222396\ ieee80211 phy): wl_ops_bss_info_changed: arp filtering: enabled true, count 1 (implement)
[15:22] <roasted> Question - is there a way to get my programs to list a-z in the unity menu?
[15:22] <shammancer> I did make a buffer for the boot directory
[15:22] <dell> I think I am going to install the new Ubuntu when the release is out and keep it till the next lts
[15:22] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive changed the power settings so that the PC stops turning the monitor off and going into sleep mode, but it is still happening regardless. Is there something I am missing here?
[15:22] <bastidrazor> shammancer: apt-get autoremove remove linux-image-*then hit tab to autocomplete but pick the lower version numbers. you can use 'uname -r' to determine your current kernel
[15:22] <ratcheer> dell: I wish I could do that.
[15:23] <dell> ratcheer: why could you not?
[15:23] <ratcheer> dell: Willpower. I like the bleeding edge.
[15:24] <ignerious> hey anyone knows how to establish a network connection in opensuse
[15:24] <_Marcus> ignerious: OpenSUSE?
[15:24] <dell> ratcheer: if you like bleeding edge you should go with a rolling release
[15:24] <ignerious> yes
[15:24] <_Marcus> ignerious: This is Ubuntu support
[15:24] <mkultra_> should be "ifconfig" in terminal
[15:25] <mkultra_> ifconfigs a rather generic command
[15:25] <ignerious> where did i get information about this
[15:25] <mkultra_> man ifconfig for the manual
[15:25] <ratcheer> dell: I just gave up on my test installations of Arch and Sabayon. Too much trouble to keep up.
[15:25] <_Marcus> ignerious: Try OpenSUSE's IRC room
[15:25] <ratcheer> I had been using Arch for 6 months...
[15:25] <mkultra_> alt + f2 = terminal alt + f7 or f8 is your os
[15:25] <ignerious> ok
[15:25] <dell> ratcheer: I run arch on my other desktop and laptop
[15:26] <ratcheer> dell: I liked Arch, but it was like pulling teeth.
[15:26] <_Marcus> ignerious: On Freenode it's #SUSE
[15:26] <dell> ratcheer: nah, just have to stay on top of it
[15:26] <_Marcus> ignerious: On irc.opensuse.org it's #openSUSE
[15:26] <Newb10101> Lunar_lamp did you read what I typed?
[15:26] <sheperson> is it OK if I use the same /home partition for different Linux distros? (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.)
[15:26] <dell> ratcheer: cost of being on the edge
[15:27] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive changed the power settings so that the PC stops turning the monitor off and going into sleep mode, but it is still happening regardless. Is there something I am missing here?
[15:27] <zykotick9> sheperson: you could try - expect issues
[15:27] <dell> sheperson: you should be fine
[15:27] <sheperson> zykotick9, what kind of issues?
[15:27] <zykotick9> sheperson: i couldn't say (it's not a good idea)
[15:27] <mkultra_> config files are stored in home
[15:27] <ratcheer> dell: Ubuntu is a happy medium.
[15:27] <mkultra_> just make another user
[15:27] <mkultra_> name your user ted instead of ned in fedora
[15:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Newb10101: you sent a single line of text, about arp filtering, which is not likely to be realted to any issues. Does the system just freeze there, or reboot etc?
[15:27] <shammancer> Awesome I removed the ones I did not need thanks guys
[15:28] <dell> ratcheer: yeah it just has the best support
[15:28] <sheperson> mkultra_, nice idea!
[15:28] <mkultra_> yeah that will clear up issues
[15:28] <mkultra_> you should be able to share a vsftpd on both os's too
[15:28] <thwest> on 10.04, how do i upgrade to python 2.7? I did apt-get update, but install doesnt want to upgrade it
[15:29] <sheperson> mkultra_, are you talking to me?
[15:29] <mkultra_> yeah
[15:29] <Lunar_Lamp> Newb10101: you might want to try booting with an older kernel, in case the current one is causing issues. http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-ubuntu-11-10-with-an-old-kernel-version (scroll down for an explanation of how to do this while it's booting)
[15:29] <sheperson> why I should I share a vsftpd?
[15:29] <Newb10101> Lunar_lamp that was an example of one of the lines it gives. here I took a picture. http://imgur.com/M7LfM              It just freezes right there, I have to power it down afterwords
[15:30] <sheperson> mkultra_,  why I should I share a vsftpd?
[15:30] <zykotick9> sheperson: i'd suggest you be very carefull with info from anyone recommending FTP anything.  FTP SHOULD DIE.
[15:30] <mkultra_> make the node a network share?
[15:30] <mkultra_> using ftp instead of sshfs
[15:30] <karzan> some times my mouse stop working so i have to restart to fix it
[15:30] <mkultra_> or nfs
[15:30] <sheperson> mkultra_, I got it
[15:31] <sheperson> thanks
[15:31] <sheperson> :D
[15:31] <yzhd> hi guys
[15:31] <zykotick9> "ftp instead of sshfs" oh my.
[15:31] <yzhd> anyone here that can help me with ubuntu installation _
[15:31] <mkultra_> install from a flash drive
[15:31] <karzan> yzhd, JUst ASk
[15:32] <mkultra_> expect for things to get wiped
[15:32] <karzan> some times my mouse stop working so i have to restart to fix it, any help?
[15:32] <etzerd> hello all
[15:33] <yzhd> I\m on a windows vista. I shirnked my hard drive. I now have 44 gb of unnalocated space. I want to install ubuntu on that space. I have inserted the live cd, and when I\m in the installation screen what do I do+_
[15:33] <dell> hello etzerd
[15:33] <etzerd> what is ubuntu  2D?
[15:33] <yzhd> I selected the 3rd option.. but it didn\\t work
[15:33] <ctjctj> I'm  working with 12.04.  In the Network Manager menu the "connect to vpn" menu option has gone away.  Where do I find documentation/help on getting this back.
[15:33] <zykotick9> ctjctj: reask in #ubuntu+1
[15:33] <ctjctj> Thanks zykotick9
[15:33] <dell> etzerd: it just dosn't have the effects, like shadows, and such
[15:34] <etzerd> ok thanks
[15:34] <zykotick9> etzerd: and it's Unity2D not Ubuntu2D ;)
[15:34] <etzerd> lol.. thanks
[15:34] <dell> zykotick9: in the login it does say Ubuntu 2d
[15:34] <waxstone> yzhd, select install alongside othe ros option
[15:35] <zykotick9> dell: really, oh.  etzerd my bad! sorry.
[15:35] <etzerd> is it safe to install the new version 12.04?
[15:35] <yzhd> when I got an error when I did that _
[15:35] <It_2927> Hey
[15:35] <waxstone> !12.04 | etzerd
[15:36] <yzhd> I will try it again
[15:36] <Shinobi_> is there a way to run scripts when a file is created, modified, deleted, etc..
[15:36] <It_2927> so 12.04 is still in beta testing?
[15:36] <yzhd> im in ubuntu live cd try ubuntu thing
[15:36] <zykotick9> It_2927: yes
[15:36] <It_2927> Ok
[15:36] <waxstone> yzhd, yes install form live cd
[15:36] <It_2927> when do you think it will come public?
[15:37] <It_2927> few months?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> It_2927  April 26
[15:37] <ratcheer> end of april
[15:37] <It_2927> okay
[15:37] <It_2927> im on 11.10
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> It_2927  04 = the 4th month, april
[15:37] <It_2927> Yep
[15:38] <dell> It_2927: #ubuntu+1 can give you all the info on the new release
[15:38] <It_2927> okay
[15:38] <It_2927> Thanks
[15:38] <yzhd> I get ERROR, unable to satisfy all contraints on the partition
[15:38] <dell> It_2927: np
[15:39] <hubertus_> Shinobi: take a look at iwatch
[15:39] <PeaceMaker> Is it possible to backup the system disk of a live system?
[15:39] <It_2927> I use xfce and have modified the system alot so i'll probably be waiting till the official release of 12.04
[15:40] <rodhash> Guys... How can I mount the VGs / FS located in other partition? I have a dual boot with ubuntu and red hat... any idea pls?
[15:40] <It_2927> hmm
[15:40] <It_2927> can you be a little more specific
[15:40] <It_2927> ?
[15:40] <wylde> !info incron | Shinobi_
[15:40] <helo1> If I have ssh access to an Ubuntu server flavor, is there a way to install a gui and launch it remotely (vnc?)?
[15:40] <zykotick9> rodhash: what is VGs?
[15:40] <PeaceMaker> Or any other operating systems offer this feature, snapshot backup of live system ?
[15:40] <rodhash> VG == Volume Group
[15:41] <It_2927> helo1 yes
[15:41] <zykotick9> rodhash: ahhh LVM - something i know nothing about ;)  sorry to bother ya.
[15:41] <tomvolek> hi, a newbie , how can i find my dns server ?   ifconfig doesnt show it
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> helo1  I'm on a remote debian pc as we speak, controlled with ubuntu
[15:41] <It_2927> but you will need to get the software
[15:41] <It_2927> to connect
[15:41] <It_2927> and set it up
[15:41] <It_2927> but im pretty sure its possible by way of vnc
[15:41] <yzhd> device for boot loader installation, which one shall I select_
[15:41] <zykotick9> !enter | It_2927
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> helo1  ssh to the remote pc and type apt-get install whatever-the-debian-gui-is-named
[15:42] <yzhd> dev sda dev sda1 dv sd2 _
[15:42] <It_2927> Okay, i will remember that in the future, ubottu.
[15:42] <Shinobi_> hubertus: tx
[15:42] <PeaceMaker> helo1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:42] <yzhd> anyone __
[15:43] <helo1> After installing a GUI with apt-get, how can I launch a remote session to it?
[15:43] <Shinobi_> wylde: Ubottu: I looked into incron, but from what I understand, it cannot monitor a directory structure, just a directory. Is this correct?
[15:43] <It_2927> or -  sudo bash then apt-get install (program)
[15:43] <zykotick9> It_2927: "sudo bash" is a terrible suggestion - just sayin'
[15:43] <mbeierl> tomaw, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> helo1  type with gnome-panel and nautilus
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> helo1  with gnome-panel and nautilus
[15:43] <It_2927> It sets you as root via. terminal
[15:44] <Xeli> Hey, I've added an ftp share via nautilus, where is this share mounted on my filesystem? if it is at all
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Xeli  type mount to find out
[15:44] <PeaceMaker> helo1, an easy way is to use freenx
[15:44] <zykotick9> Xeli: you probably won't find it :(  good luck.
[15:44] <wylde> Shinobi_: with the proper settings it can, I believe. It may require Inotify as well.
[15:44] <sheenzz> hey i tryed to updated my pc and a error came up saying memory something something
[15:44] <It_2927> In my mind, thats incredibly useful due to the fact you dont have to keep typing sudo and your password alot of times...
[15:45] <Xeli> MonkeyDust: ah good one, thanks
[15:45] <zykotick9> It_2927: you are wrong.  "sudo -i" if you REALLY need a root terminal
[15:45] <PeaceMaker> or reboot then start vnc server.
[15:45] <Xeli> zykotick9: its on ~/.gvfs :)
[15:45] <hubertus_> Xeli: should be in ~/.gvfs
[15:45] <zykotick9> Xeli: ahh, gvfs wasn't installed be default for a while - i missed it greatly
[15:45] <PeaceMaker> Is it possible to backup the system disk of a live system?  Or any other operating systems offer this feature, snapshot backup of a live system?
[15:45] <It_2927> lmao it does the exact same thing
[15:46] <It_2927> root@(hostname)
[15:46] <zykotick9> It_2927: you are wrong.
[15:46] <zykotick9> !wfm > It_2927
[15:46] <It_2927> Okay.
[15:48] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive changed the power settings so that the PC stops turning the monitor off and going into sleep mode, but it is still happening regardless. Is there something I am missing here?
[15:49] <yzhd> guys, is swap recommened _
[15:49] <bastidrazor> Dj_FlyBy: there are two places you have to set that. oddly enough. power settings and.. let me find it
[15:49] <ruud_> Ik heb al een paar dagen dat het netwerk slecht is bij jullie, kan dat want ik heb 82% bereik
[15:49] <zykotick9> bastidrazor: and screensaver i believe?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> ruud_  verkeerd kannal, type /j #ubuntu-nl
[15:50] <bastidrazor> wait.. i'm on 12.04 and the menus have chagned a bit. :|
[15:50] <It_2927> what do they look like bastidrazor?
[15:51] <roasted> Question - is there a way to get my programs to list a-z in the unity menu?
[15:51] <bastidrazor> Dj_FlyBy: mine shows under Brightness and Lock in 12.04.. its something similiar in 11.10
[15:51] <Xabster> Does IDEA have a Gui builder for swing?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Xabster  what's IDEA exactly?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> and swing?
[15:52] <Xabster> wrong channel, sorry
[15:53] <hubertus_> Xabster: yes it has
[15:53] <linuxnewb> GUYS, IM GOING TO INSTALL UBUNTU. HOW MUCH SWAP SHOULD I HAVE
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> caps
[15:53] <bastidrazor> linuxnewb: equal what RAM you have.
[15:53] <linuxnewb> sorry
[15:53] <linuxnewb> how much swap should i have
[15:54] <zykotick9> linuxnewb: a little more then RAM if you want to use hibernate
[15:54] <linuxnewb> I have 3gb ram
[15:54] <linuxnewb> would 5 gb swap be to much
[15:55] <hubertus_> once it was said to use double the ram size for swap iirc
[15:55] <linuxnewb> so i need 6 gb swap
[15:56] <zykotick9> hubertus_: that's a bit of an old rule at this point
[15:56] <hubertus_> but i believe it was before we had gigs of ram - but anyway more than ram for hibernate
[15:56] <linuxnewb> ok
[15:57] <linuxnewb> how much would you recommend
[15:57] <linuxnewb> i have 3 gb ram
[15:57] <linuxnewb> would 5 gb ram swap be ok
[15:57] <NewWorld> linuxnewb:  Maybe you should have no swap since you have so much RAM.
[15:57] <zykotick9> linuxnewb: we can't really say for sure (depends what you are doing).  but most likely yes.
[15:58] <zykotick9> NewWorld: no swap is a BAD idea - makes your system slower
[15:58] <linuxnewb> Im going to compile cm7 build android roms
[15:58] <linuxnewb> 3 gb swap would be enough
[15:58] <linuxnewb> _
[15:58] <NewWorld> zykotick9:  How's that? I have had no swap and only 2GB of RAM for 2 years now. What's the point of swap if the RAM never goes over capacity?
[15:59] <linuxnewb> fine... Im going for 2gb swap
[15:59] <linuxnewb> thanks guys
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> me too, i've disabled swap
[15:59] <linuxnewb> does swap make the pc slower _
[15:59] <sipior> NewWorld: holding memory reservations that are unallocated.
[15:59] <zykotick9> linuxnewb: no, faster.
[15:59] <linuxnewb> ok
[15:59] <linuxnewb> do you think 2 gb is enough
[16:00] <TorbenBeta> Is there a command which shows the cpu usage of a program like system monitor?
[16:00] <bastidrazor> linuxnewb: do 5gb and be done with it. you're going in circles
[16:00] <helo1> top
[16:00] <NewWorld> sipior:  What reserves unallocated memory? My RAM rarely goes above 1GB used
[16:00] <helo1> TorbenBeta: top
[16:00] <TorbenBeta> Thanks
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> TorbenBeta  or htop
[16:00] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: "top" by default.  "htop" is an improved version
[16:01] <helo1> What does htop add to top
[16:01] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, should I install htop? Is it much better than top?
[16:01] <NewWorld> TorbenBeta:  yes much much better
[16:01] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: htop is IMO much better yes
[16:01] <a-saint> hello guys is blackbuntu supported on this channel
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> "Htop is an ncursed-based process viewer similar to top, but it allows one to scroll the list vertically and horizontally to see all processes and their full command lines."
[16:02] <sipior> NewWorld: most applications reserve more memory than they eventually require. the swap is not used, in the sense that data is written to disk. it is used to move empty reservations out of memory so that they do not interfere with other applications.
[16:02] <Dr_willis> a-saint,  no.
[16:02] <zykotick9> a-saint: no, only official releases
[16:02] <helo1> Awesome.
[16:03] <NewWorld> hmm interesting, I'll read up on that
[16:04] <helo1> JUst installed htop
[16:05] <swex> hi there! question if I have 2 modules both supports the same WIFI usb dongle, how to choose which one will handle this device?
[16:05] <helo1> Amazing. Wish I found it sooner
[16:05] <hiptobecubic> In 10.04 11.04 or 11.10 or 12.04 both kubuntu and ubuntu:  After choosing a language during install, the keyboard stops working. It works to choose the language and then stops.
[16:06] <Falcon> Can anyone help with No sound issue.pc connected with HDMI. XBMCbuntu 11? can provide more details if you need reg my HW.
[16:06] <hiptobecubic> It's a usb keyboard.
[16:06] <moodboom> hey all - anyone boot up ubuntu on a macbook pro?  trying to set up my hybrid MBR and it's killing me :P
[16:07] <Dr_willis> Falcon,  many hdmi audio outs dont have supported drivers. id suggest checking the askubuntu.com site for your specific hardeare.. and we really dont support xbmcubuntu here.
[16:07] <swex> hiptobecubic, try some of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:07] <hiptobecubic> swex, thanks.
[16:09] <Falcon> thanks Dr_willis got no help over at #XBMC either. will try elsewhere.
[16:09] <hiptobecubic> swex, which part of 'some' :)
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> is there a website about LAMP security?
[16:09] <zhxk> hello, how to set locale LC_ALL=C?
[16:10] <moodboom> I'm using rEFInd, a fork of rEFIt.  i really don't understand why refind shows only mac os on the boot screen.  i'm only seeing Mac OS but i have ubuntu and windows partitions too
[16:10] <zhxk> hello, how to set locale on cli, let LC_ALL=C?
[16:12] <liang> who knows, where g_hash_table_lookup locates?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> is a LAMP server protected against sqlinjection?
[16:12] <hiptobecubic> Ok, apparently the keyboard is PS/2, not usb
[16:12] <species> lotuspsychje: sql injections are something for the programmer to worry about
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> species: the user installing a server cannot worry about security?
[16:13] <species> lotuspsychje: they can, but not in the case of sql injections
[16:13] <species> those are not a flaw in the server, they are a flaw in the code you write
[16:14] <species> the SQL interpreter cannot distinguish between injected code and intended code
[16:14] <hiptobecubic> The keyboard works at only the first page, when choosing a language. Then it stops
[16:14] <fartofagony> what texte editor is good to save text in asm format?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> species: ah, so even if you protect yourself, a flaw could be injected?
[16:14] <species> lotuspsychje: read this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_injection#Technical_Implementations
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> species: tnx lemme read
[16:15] <species> lotuspsychje: you need to understand how it works because you seem to have misconceptions
[16:15] <hiptobecubic> Ok, i'm getting more information over the phone....
[16:15] <species> its not like a buffer overflow attack where the server itself is at fault
[16:15] <Vinno> how do you list a directory in terminal??
[16:15] <hiptobecubic> Vinno, ls
[16:15] <a-saint> Dr_willis zykotick9 I see because joining blackbuntu channel had only me and another user i thought ubuntu might be the channel support
[16:15] <Vinno> thanks
[16:16] <Zaitzev> how can i logout of ubuntu using terminal, via ssh? system has froze, AGAIN.
[16:16] <zykotick9> a-saint: perhaps there isn't much in the way of support for blackbuntu?  wouldn't surprise me - level of support should be one factor in your choice of distros.
[16:16] <hiptobecubic> Zaitzev, "sudo shutdown -R now"
[16:16] <Zaitzev> it's getting ridiculous
[16:17] <Zaitzev> i dont want to shut down though.
[16:17] <hiptobecubic> APPARENTLY, after choosing a language it drops to tty, leaves a blinking cursor in the upper left and is totally unresponsive
[16:17] <terry420> can any one can help me install ubuntu 10.04lts on lifebook LH531 ?
[16:17] <hiptobecubic> Zaitzev, if i recall, perhaps... "sudo /etc/rc.inti/gdm stop"
[16:17] <moodboom> is anybody even using a macbook?
[16:18] <a-saint> zykotick9, right now am on ubuntu is there any pentesting tool package that is similar for blackbuntu I might install or any ubuntu supported pentesting release
[16:18] <fartofagony> what texte editor is good to save text in asm format?
[16:18] <zykotick9> a-saint: sorry, i have no idea.  not my area of expertise ;)
[16:18] <fartofagony> notepad++ is very good in windows, anyone know what is very good in linux?
[16:18] <Aciid> fartofagony: sublime text 2
[16:19] <Zaitzev> kinda difficult to do anything via ssh on my iphone lol
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> species: interesting, but would a LAMP server be safe or not to use?
[16:19] <a-saint> Zaitzev, you should get n900
[16:19] <fartofagony> Aciid: thanks. have to researsch just to make sure its not some random guy trolling
[16:20] <species> lotuspsychje: SQL injections are a fundamental weakness of string based query systems and it is impossible to secure a server against them.
[16:20] <Aciid> fartofagony: http://www.sublimetext.com/
[16:20] <Xabster> species, it is?
[16:20] <Aciid> this editor is serious biz
[16:20] <Zaitzev> what i should get is a linux distro that isn't causing constant problems every single day.
[16:20] <bastidrazor> hiptobecubic: since 10.04 'service' is in use. sudo service gdm stop  for example
[16:20] <species> the server only ever recieves a string, it doesnt know which parts are OK and which are injected.
[16:20] <iceman84x> hi all
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> species: lets say you iptable secure a server it still possible to inject?
[16:21] <species> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:21] <Xabster> Inject is a bad term here
[16:21] <Xabster> you're not injecting into anything
[16:21] <Xabster> you're just running a query
[16:21] <species> if you write a dodgy query string that is vulnerable to injections, the server has no way of knowing
[16:21] <Glacee> Use Mongodb instead :0
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> species: no wonder the whole world is getting hacked on injections
[16:22] <species> lotuspsychje: yep
[16:22] <Xabster> I don't understand your problems lotuspsychje/species
[16:22] <hubertus_> lotuspsychje: GreenSQL could be something to look at
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> species: any sql package without flaw codes in it?
[16:22] <Xabster> You can just escape your input...? isn't that enough?
[16:22] <species> Xabster: he is asking how to secure a LAMP server against injections and im trying to tell him he needs to secure his own code
[16:22] <Xabster> OH
[16:23] <Xabster> right, yeah, securing the server doesn't make much sense
[16:23] <species> but he keeps coming back to the server itself with more questions
[16:23] <species> its like trying to secure your door against the wrong person turning the key
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> ok ok i got it
[16:23] <bastidrazor> great analogy.
[16:25] <species> lotuspsychje: a good practice is to wrap all your queries in a function that takes the paramaters and forms a query string internally, preferably using an API designed for that purpose
[16:25] <species> never write a query string directly
[16:26] <a-saint> someone knows a penetration testing distro supported by ubuntu
[16:26] <species> but this is going beyond the scope of this channel now
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> species: isnt there like a package to protect the code?
[16:26] <species> lotuspsychje: an SQL injection isnt done by modifying your code, its done by putting things into data that the user can enter
[16:26] <species> lotuspsychje: a classic example is a login form
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> brb
[16:27] <species> use the username of whoever you want to hack and set the password to an injection string such as those shown on the wiki page
[16:27] <madurax86> hello is net_prio cgroup support is in ubuntu?
[16:28] <Zaitzev> I've learned one thing, and that is that if a program, for example XBMC, or Minecraft (Java), freezes up, it freezes completely. Killing the process does not help at all, I have to restart the PC.
[16:28] <UnluckyUser324> Got a HUGE problem. Power supply went down and now when i boot up i get "init not found" and nothing happens. Iwe changed the powersupply, systems works. But how do i fix my hd ?
[16:28] <hiptobecubic> Zaitzev, depends on why it's freezing. I can't say I've had that problem.
[16:28] <species> you need to kill it properly using top
[16:29] <species> just closing the window doesnt always kill it, especially if its hung
[16:29] <Zaitzev> hiptobecubic: I have absolutely no idea what's happening. It's random, happens regardless of whether I'm interacting at the moment, or doing nothing.
[16:29] <madurax86> Zaitzev: if the whole system freezes and doesnt respond to alt+b+sysrq(prnt scr) then u have a hardware problem
[16:30] <escott> Zaitzev, you could xkill it and disconnect it from the X server
[16:30] <Zaitzev> madurax86: I can SSH in and stuff. Like I did just moments ago asking about logging out via ssh.
[16:30] <Zaitzev> Which of course didn't work at all.
[16:30] <Zaitzev> escott: What, xkill?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  with xkill the mousepointer turns into a process killing pointer
[16:31] <Zaitzev> :o
[16:31] <madurax86> Zaitzev: then its a minor problem of software, your kernel is up and a good amount of ubuntu is running, only the screen has frozen;might be due to drivers for xorg or xorg itself..may be you are better off with a fresh install
[16:31] <Zaitzev> madurax86: this IS a fresh install, just days old.
[16:32] <madurax86> Zaitzev: is this 12.04? :P its still on testing
[16:32] <escott> Zaitzev, it doesn't directly do anything to kill the process, just severs the connection to the X server. most programs are unable to handle that and segfault shortly thereafter
[16:32] <Zaitzev> madurax86: No it's 11.10
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> species: ok mate tnx for info
[16:32] <Zaitzev> escott: sounds dangerous >:)
[16:33] <madurax86> Zaitzev: I see, how often and when does it freeze, how can you reproduce a freeze?
[16:33] <Zaitzev> madurax86: Can't really reproduce. It happens randomly, and it happens whether I'm interacting at the moment (moving the mouse, clicking mouse or keyboard), or simply looking at the program.
[16:34] <escott> UnluckyUser324, you might need to boot a livecd and run fsck on the filesystems
[16:34] <madurax86> Zaitzev: is this a notebook?
[16:34] <Zaitzev> no, desktop
[16:35] <UnluckyUser324> escott: Will a permenent hd do ? Im running lastest ubuntu on it. Could just pop in the bad hd and run any tools from my new hd
[16:35] <madurax86> Zaitzev: can you post the dmesg after a freeze?
[16:35] <souza> Hello folks.
[16:35] <UnluckyUser324> escott: And thx so much for answering, it means the worold
[16:35] <escott> UnluckyUser324, your could try, you would have to switch your boot devices in the bios
[16:35] <Zaitzev> madurax86: since the freeze happened just moments ago, can I somehow find out where in dmesg that happened?
[16:36] <UnluckyUser324> escott: Sure np. ubuntu have a disctool as well, might just try that as well. got the commands you mentioned under control
[16:36] <escott> !sysrq | Zaitzev (don't know if you have been sent this)
[16:36] <souza> i'm having a problem in ubuntu i cannot download some packages, it prints a stack with several problems like this >> " Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main libxslt1.1 amd64 1.1.26-8ubuntu1   Temporary failure resolving 'br.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[16:37] <Zaitzev> escott: I'm getting really tired of rebooting the system every time something freezes. I've rebooted 4 times today alone.
[16:37] <madurax86> Zaitzev: well depends if you restarted the dmesg just shows u the msgs for the current boot not the prior then u should see /var/log/kern.log
[16:37] <xangua> souza: pangolin is not supported here
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> souza  precise is in development and not ready yet, type /j #ubuntu+1 for support
[16:37] <a-saint> someone knows a penetration testing distr supported by ubuntu
[16:37] <escott> Zaitzev, that might ensure that your kernel ring buffer if flushed to the dmesg.log if you cannot access it otherwise
[16:37] <souza> Ok, thanks guys
[16:38] <a-saint> madurax86, isn't this a vga driver issue
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> a-saint: backtrack has an ubuntu version
[16:38] <madurax86> a-saint: it can be, logs will explain i guess
[16:38] <mukti> Is there a site where I can search packages that are available? I know I can use apt-cache search, but I was looking for a web based search
[16:38] <escott> mukti, packages.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <mukti> escott: thanks
[16:39] <hubertus_> a-saint: blackbuntu
[16:39] <madurax86> can any one tell me netprio cgroup support is compiled in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:39] <a-saint> lotuspsychje, I have backtrack r2 and is ubuntu based i know but I want something supported by Ubuntu as official ubuntu
[16:39] <mobiusstriper> hi all, is there such an option as "install as a dependencies" in aptitude/apt-get?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> mukti  try appnr.com
[16:40] <a-saint> hubertus_, I can't even download the torrent from there website
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !precise | madurax86
[16:40] <nuiok> hey
[16:40] <Zaitzev> I bet if I reinstall Ubuntu, it'll install random different programs then too.
[16:41] <nuiok> Guys i'm a newbie to the entire backtrack/linux world can anyone be my mentor :$
[16:41] <nuiok> ?
[16:41] <madurax86> lotuspsychje: :)
[16:41] <xangua> nuiok: cacktrack is not supported here
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  not "random"
[16:41] <xangua> backtrack*
[16:41] <hubertus_> a-saint: and the .iso from sf ?
[16:41] <chrislsp> YouTube can be you mentor
[16:41] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:41] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:42] <nuiok> Youtube is time consuming , I rather someone teaching one on one just the basics
[16:42] <Zaitzev> MonkeyDust: Well, what is it then? Because I started using Ubuntu a little over a month ago, and I have (re)installed Ubuntu twice since then. And all 3 times there has been differences in what got installed. WITHOUT my explicit input/choice
[16:42] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:42] <a-saint> hubertus_, isn't this a 64bit
[16:42] <cuddylier> Why it it not giving permission to what I want to use it with?
[16:42] <xangua> nuiok: i don't thin someone will take you and teach you personally here
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  idd, that sounds strange
[16:43] <nuiok> I realize :/
[16:43] <chrislsp> My dear friend, one on one is the king of relationship between you and the pc.. anything else will drive you away from what you wanna accomplish with backtrack ;)
[16:43] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:43] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:43] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:43] <Zaitzev> MonkeyDust: That plus the fact that things like Flash doesn't work correctly, I can't get the microphone working (even tried with alsamixer), and a bunch of other minor annoyances.
[16:44] <nuiok> well @xangua can you atleast tell me how to move around in the terminal of backtrack?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  everything works fine here, so ubuntu is not to blame
[16:44] <xangua> nuiok: i said again, backtrack is not supported here, this is Ubuntu support
[16:44] <nuiok> oh
[16:44] <hubertus_> a-saint: i see . but the KDE edition seems to be 32bit - strange %-)
[16:44] <nuiok> Can i get the irc name of a backchat chatroom?
[16:44] <Zaitzev> MonkeyDust: It's weird how it turns out slightly different, and the hardware is not the issue, everything works fine in Windows.
[16:44] <xangua> !backtrack | nuiok
[16:44] <hubertus_> a-saint: but does it matter ?
[16:44] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:45] <a-saint> hubertus_,  I don't use KDE
[16:45] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:45] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:45] <a-saint> hubertus_,  I don't have 64bit computer / laptop for now
[16:45] <Pici> fartofagony: What do you mean by "it doesn't work" what happens instead?
[16:46] <Xabster> cuddylier, what does that tell you?
[16:48] <johnjacobjinger> quick question about LAMP... i want to install osTicket which according to http://78.129.251.153/staff-blog/item/8-osticket-installation-on-ubuntu-1004-lts requires LAMP
[16:48] <a-saint> chrislsp I have backtrack on my sda and want an another pen test dist for my xternal SD
[16:48] <johnjacobjinger> i already have Apache installed... if i install lamp-server will that conflict with my apache
[16:50] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:50] <cuddylier> Error is on the right >>>>
[16:50] <johnjacobjinger> cuddylier you need to edit the mysql config to allow that user
[16:50] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:50] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:50] <cuddylier> How?
[16:50] <cuddylier> Where is the config file?
[16:51] <cuddylier> Or what is the command?
[16:51] <Pici> johnjacobjinger: LAMP is just an acronym for a set of server applications.  If you already have Apache installed, then you just need php and mysql.  The lamp-server task will not override your apache install (assuming that you used our repositories to install apache)
[16:51] <Pici> fartofagony: You never answered my question.
[16:51] <cuddylier> And once I type the command what do I type to make sure it picks up the changes?
[16:51] <johnjacobjinger> Pici i did i was just making sure Insall lamp wouldnt mess it up
[16:52] <cuddylier> johnjacobjinger
[16:52] <johnjacobjinger> let me look cuddylier give me a minute
[16:52] <Xabster> cuddylier, this is a mysql problem and this channel is #ubuntu
[16:52] <cuddylier> Okay
[16:52] <cuddylier> Thanks so much
[16:53] <cuddylier> But, I thought since it's to do with ubuntu
[16:53] <cuddylier> I'll see if John has the answer..
[16:53] <cuddylier> If not I'll go to their channel
[16:53] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:53] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:54] <Pici> fartofagony: What do you mean by "it doesn't work" what happens instead?
[16:54] <ana__> 1
[16:55] <It_2927> I think he/she means that it saves as a normal text file rather than the desired format.
[16:55] <cuddylier> What is the mysql channel?
[16:55] <Pici> cuddylier: #mysql, oddly enough
[16:55] <chrislsp> !mysql
[16:55] <cuddylier> lol
[16:56] <cuddylier> I'll wait for john first :)
[16:56] <ana__> 1
[16:56] <Pici> ana__: can we help you?
[16:56] <m3xia> its like i put on charge and im using the laptop some time and when i remove the cable its only 26m left  my battery is addicted but lasts 56m on windows
[16:56] <m3xia> can someone help?
[16:57] <eric> can someone tell me how to install this? packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-headers-2.6.38-13-generic
[16:57] <cuddylier> The channel isnt #mysql :(
[16:57] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:57] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:57] <Pici> cuddylier: Yes it is.
[16:57] <escott> !work | fartofagony
[16:58] <chrislsp> m3xia I'm not sure if theres a solution to that, I had tha same problem and didn't find anything Its just how ubuntu works i guess
[16:58] <cuddylier> It says "Cannot connect to channel #mysql"
[16:58] <It_2927> cuddylier, you're name says it all
[16:58] <species> i think he wants it to become executable
[16:58] <a-saint> eric apt-get update ......... apt-get upgrade
[16:58] <cuddylier> Aw
[16:58] <Pici> !register | cuddylier
[16:58] <cuddylier> thanks
[16:58] <cuddylier> Ohh
[16:58] <Pici> cuddylier: read the topic next time.
[16:58] <Guest76005> sorry i meant this http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/linux-headers-2.6.38-13-generic/download
[16:58] <cuddylier> !register
[16:58] <Guest76005> need to know how to install that
[16:58] <cuddylier> lol
[16:58] <FloodBot1> cuddylier: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:58] <cuddylier> Sorry floodbot
[16:58] <johnjacobjinger> cuddylier: maybe this can help u with the sql issue:  http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMySQL.html
[16:59] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:59] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:59] <chrislsp> fartofagony I don't get it.. You open gedit, type, save as.. choose all files and type the extension your self :/
[16:59] <cuddylier> thanks
[16:59] <species> cuddylier: floodbot is a bot, in case that wasnt obvious
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> fartofagony  this is not strictly ubuntu, but maybe it helps http://paste.ubuntu.com/902479/
[16:59] <It_2927> :O!
[16:59] <ctusch> i have an old eee pc 901 (4 GB of disk space). is there a ubuntu version which isn't so large? i always have disk space problems and therefore can't upgrade to new releases etc.
[17:00] <It_2927> use haiku-os
[17:00] <johnjacobjinger> ctusch: hard drives are cheap now.. feel free to get a larger drive ;-)
[17:01] <m3xia> doensnt anyone has the same problem?
[17:01] <ctusch> lt_2927: seems to be in alpha state
[17:01] <escott> !minimal | ctusch
[17:01] <johnjacobjinger> :-\
[17:01] <It_2927> m3xia, if you can't find your answer in this irc channel, why not check ubuntu forums?
[17:02] <It_2927> Just because its in alpha, doesen't mean its bad
[17:02] <It_2927> It already has a flash player ported
[17:02] <ctusch> johnjacobjinger: i don't think i can change the ssd in this one
[17:02] <It_2927> ctusch: how so?
[17:02] <auronandace> It_2927: you can continue supporting him in #haiku
[17:03] <ctusch> escott: thanks, sounds promising
[17:03] <ctusch> lt_2927: IIRC it's soldered
[17:03] <escott> ctusch, it doesnt really help that much but its a base from which you can be more selective about packages
[17:03] <monser> hello there are some packages named generic and generic-pae
[17:03] <monser> what is the difference
[17:04] <It_2927> Maybe you should try ubuntu with a different desktop enviroment that takes up less space..
[17:04] <monser> what is pae
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> !pae
[17:04] <monser> !pae
[17:04] <auronandace> monser: physical address extension,
[17:04] <Amoz> !pae | monser
[17:04] <auronandace> monser: lets 32bit use more than 4gb of ram
[17:04] <monser> ok
[17:05] <ctusch> lt_2927 is this easy to change?
[17:05] <monser> i see
[17:05] <monser> generic can only use up to 4gb of ram, pae more
[17:05] <It_2927> ctusch there are pre-configured ones
[17:05] <It_2927> such as Lubuntu
[17:05] <It_2927> and Xubuntu
[17:05] <It_2927> these may be better options, but you could always try a lighter distro?
[17:05] <auronandace> monser: well, 3.2gb to be precise but yes
[17:06] <monser> auronandace:  thank you
[17:06] <auronandace> monser: usually it would be better to use 64bit than 32bit with pae
[17:06] <Dj_FlyBy> how come after adding NTFS partitions to fstab they are appearing twice in the Nautilus window?
[17:07] <ctusch> lt_2927: thought about it, but i think ubuntu is quite mature and works out of the box with my eee pc. i haven't had that much luck with other distros. i don't want to do any tinkering. :)
[17:07] <It_2927> you don't have too :)
[17:07] <It_2927> just use Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[17:08] <cuddylier> How do I send a message to the #mysql channel? Sorry to ask here, it says "Cannot send to channel #mysql"
[17:08] <It_2927> its just ubuntu with a different desktop enviroment..
[17:08] <Amoz> cuddylier, I need to join it I think
[17:08] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, what does your fstab entry look like
[17:08] <Amoz> cuddylier, /join #mysql
[17:08] <sacarlson> ctusch: eeepc was designed to support linux so likely it still will
[17:08] <ctusch> lt_2927: yeah sure, those ones i will try. :)
[17:08] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: paste here?
[17:08] <sl33k_> Any way in which I can open an xps file on ubuntu? googling shows otherwise
[17:08] <cuddylier> It says that error
[17:08] <auronandace> cuddylier: you using a registered nick?
[17:08] <cuddylier> No
[17:08] <escott> !paste | Dj_FlyBy
[17:08] <auronandace> cuddylier: you need to
[17:08] <cuddylier> How?
[17:09] <auronandace> cuddylier: you were given the link earlier
[17:09] <auronandace> !register | cuddylier
[17:09] <It_2927> ctusch, you also may want to try doing a custom install
[17:09] <It_2927> making the swap partition smaller.
[17:09] <species> cuddylier: some channels require you to register with freenode before you can enter
[17:10] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: ok so you want the whole fstab then? or just a line for the ntfs?
[17:10] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, whole fstab is best
[17:10] <ctusch> lt2927: i've already did that
[17:10] <Dj_FlyBy> ok
[17:10] <cuddylier> Okay
[17:10] <ctusch> 4 gb just isn't that much :|
[17:10] <It_2927> ctusch: these other alternative enviroments may give you a 2nd chance then
[17:10] <It_2927> if it really is so old
[17:11] <It_2927> Maybe Lubuntu is for you.
[17:11] <Amoz> Dj_FlyBy, my guess is that one instance is mounted because of fstab, and the other one is "auto-discovered" in the "Devices" list
[17:11] <auronandace> ctusch: you could get a 16gb usb stick
[17:12] <sacarlson> ctusch: I just upgraded to 4gb ram, thinking that was big as 512meg is all you really need
[17:12] <dev_> Hi I can't get mysql server to start - i've uninstall manually remove all mysql conf and dirs and still i get in the log /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)
[17:12] <ctusch> lt_2927: great, i will try them!
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> Dj_FlyBy  maybe you need not add it in fstab, clicking it in nautilus will do
[17:12] <ctusch> sacarlson: disk spac e:)
[17:12] <sacarlson> ctusch: oh for disk space 6gb is what I think I need
[17:12] <It_2927> ctusch: i hope my advice has helped
[17:13] <ctusch> auronandace: yeah sure, but i would prefer having it on my internal drive
[17:13] <Dj_FlyBy> MonkeyDust: don't want to click it to mount it. This machine will become headless. Just wondering now why it is there
[17:13] <matt__> hello
[17:13] <dev_> what else can  i do
[17:13] <ctusch> lt_2927: definitely! thank you!
[17:13] <It_2927> can linux be actually installed to a usb stick
[17:13] <It_2927> ?
[17:13] <ctusch> yep
[17:14] <It_2927> how so...
[17:14] <auronandace> !usb | It_2927
[17:14] <matt__> I have a drive shared on my xp pro computer that i would like to see on my ubuntu 11.10 laptop, any suggestions?
[17:14] <It_2927> Lol! i understand you can install it from them
[17:14] <tyler_d> It_2927: you would select it has your hard-disk during installation
[17:14] <It_2927> Ah
[17:14] <It_2927> that actually works?
[17:14] <tyler_d> It_2927: it does indeed
[17:14] <It_2927> ....im going to rule the world
[17:14] <Dj_FlyBy> it's just quite annoying to see this for 12 different hdd's; some of which have more than one partition
[17:15] <It_2927> with this new discovery
[17:15] <tyler_d> It_2927: you can even use a portable h/d if you would like
[17:15] <sacarlson> matt__: just mount it and start using it
[17:15] <It_2927> thats exactly my plan
[17:15] <It_2927> ;)
[17:15] <dev_> got it
[17:15] <dev_> permission issue on /var/lib/mysql
[17:15] <tyler_d> It_2927: limiting factor btw, is that the machine you plug it into has to support boot from usb
[17:15] <dev_> chown mysql:mysql
[17:16] <It_2927> the machine i have supports it
[17:16] <tyler_d> dev_: throw a -R for good measure
[17:16] <It_2927> all my machines do...
[17:16] <It_2927> i shall rule the universe...
[17:17] <nooblikespear> hi all
[17:17] <Dj_FlyBy> wow, pastebin is crawling like a snail trying to submit my post
[17:17] <It_2927> so let me get this straight... i can install linux to a usb stick...
[17:17] <nooblikespear> YES
[17:17] <auronandace> It_2927: yes
[17:17] <nooblikespear> i can't believe how awesome that is too
[17:17] <It_2927> This is impossible!
[17:17] <nooblikespear> blew my mind last year
[17:17] <It_2927> I have to try it and see for my self..
[17:18] <nooblikespear> you'll never go back
[17:18] <It_2927> i have about 5 usb devices
[17:18] <It_2927> 6 if you include my exernal hard drive
[17:18] <nooblikespear> aka you have 6 computers
[17:18] <nooblikespear> install 6 different distros
[17:18] <nooblikespear> gogo
[17:18] <tyler_d> It_2927: you should use a usb hub and softraid them then install linux
[17:18] <sacarlson> lt_2927: you can make one of you 5 usb devices 6 different verison of linux
[17:18] <tyler_d> It_2927: now that would be hot
[17:19] <It_2927> How do i softraid them?
[17:19] <It_2927> i have 2 usb devices with me that work
[17:19] <It_2927> ones big enough for 2 distros
[17:19] <escott> It_2927, like biosraid? usually not recommended, but dmraid supports some
[17:19] <It_2927> I don't understand
[17:19] <dev_> arggggghh it was mysqld safe mode which i got to run fine
[17:19] <sacarlson> lt_2927: never tried raiding several usb devices but I guess it can be done
[17:19] <It_2927> what is that?
[17:19] <dev_> but i can't run the normal mysql service
[17:20] <dev_> job failed start
[17:20] <It_2927> this... raid thing....
[17:20] <dev_> running on LTS mysql 5.1
[17:20] <tyler_d> It_2927: now your talking. get more into it and you can ask more questions
[17:20] <fernandocueva> what is the undelete options for linux
[17:20] <tyler_d> !mdm
[17:20] <auronandace> It_2927: redundant array or inexpensive disks
[17:20] <auronandace> of
[17:20] <escott> !undelete | fernandocueva
[17:20] <tyler_d> !mdmadm
[17:20] <NewWorld> fernandocueva:  libtrash
[17:21] <sacarlson> lt_2927: raid is just combining several hard disks to act as one with some modes acting as fail safe in some cases
[17:21] <It_2927> I see..
[17:21] <It_2927> i can combine my 2 usbs with me then
[17:21] <It_2927> how can i do this?
[17:21] <dev_> can anyone please help with mysql service i can't get it to start
[17:21] <auronandace> !raid | It_2927
[17:22] <FacedeProut> anybody can help with ubuntu 10.04 update/upgrade issues?
[17:22] <socket> hey, i've install php5 which doesnt seem to have mysql/mysqli support, how do i add it ?
[17:22] <sacarlson> lt_2927: it would get a bit complicated if booting from a usb device as the limits of bios booting usb has limits
[17:22] <ejv> of course it has mysql support
[17:22] <It_2927> like what
[17:22] <It_2927> the bios saying
[17:23] <escott> It_2927, once you boot the kernel it shouldn't matter how the raid devices are connected
[17:23] <It_2927> o.O
[17:23] <dooma09> Hello. I was able to pxe boot Ubuntu ISO. This entry from /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf: option domain-name-servers 10.0.0.55, caused this entry in /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver '10.0.0.55'.The single quote is causing DNS failure to browse internet. Manually removing the quote solves this issue. Any idea how to I get rid of the single quotes?
[17:23] <tyler_d> It_2927: mdmadm is the software raid configuration tool used by linux... but I cannot get ubotu to tell me anything about it.
[17:23] <sacarlson> lt_2927: too complicated in a one liner here but the standard  file system format for boot from usb is fat32
[17:24] <It_2927> so i need to change it to ext4?
[17:24] <socket> ejv: im trying to install piwik, which says "Piwik requires either the mysqli extension or both the PDO and pdo_mysql extensions" so........ it seems it's missing
[17:25] <sacarlson> tyler_d: you need info on mdmadm boot?
[17:25] <escott> It_2927, your bios likely won't boot a usb device that is not formatted in a special way. some bioses *might* boot a usb device treated as a usb mass storage but thats bios dependent
[17:25] <nooblikespear> Guys what session manager do you use? Do you stick with the default Unity?
[17:25] <dev_>  init: mysql pre-start process (15559) terminated with status 1
[17:25] <sorter> nope
[17:25] <sorter> gnome classic all the way
[17:25] <tyler_d> sacarlson: was trying to forward to It_2927
[17:25] <nooblikespear> I changed to xfce and it's just WONDERFUL
[17:25] <nooblikespear> Unity didn't do it for me GG
[17:26] <FacedeProut> I have the old 10.04 LTS Ubuntu I havent touched in a while on a 64bits machine. When I try to update or upgrade I get "Failed to fetch" or "Unable to connect" errors
[17:26] <nooblikespear> I tried Gnome  I got basically the same thing, same Dash etc
[17:26] <FacedeProut> Dist upgrade doesn't work either :(
[17:26] <tyler_d> FacedeProut: is it online?
[17:26] <Amoz> !offtopic | nooblikespear
[17:26] <FacedeProut> yes
[17:26] <nooblikespear> I had 10.04 in my old laptop too, it was perfect
[17:26] <auronandace> nooblikespear: unity and xfce are desktop environments (not session managers)
[17:26] <FacedeProut> I am online right now
[17:27] <escott> FacedeProut, switch mirrors
[17:27] <It_2927> im using xfce right now
[17:27] <ejv> your DNS sucking wind?
[17:27] <FacedeProut> is there a way to update mirrors?
[17:27] <nooblikespear> me too
[17:27] <tyler_d> It_2927: if you have 5 usb's I would suggest checking out raidz very nice option.
[17:27] <ejv> double check your DNS resolution / change your mirros
[17:27] <escott> FacedeProut, synaptic has a mirror selection tool
[17:27] <monser> to change?
[17:27] <FacedeProut> escott : thanks ill check that
[17:27] <ejv> s/mirros/mirrors/
[17:27] <sacarlson> lt_2927: you can play with expermental raid as I did in virtualbox
[17:27] <It_2927> tyler_d: I will look further into this "raid"
[17:28] <tyler_d> It_2927: raid = good clean fun
[17:28] <nooblikespear> Does anyone know the difference between Xfce session and Xubuntu session at the login screen options?
[17:28] <ejv> personally, i'd use the google DNS, residential ISP DNS is typically awful.
[17:28] <ejv> that or OpenDNS
[17:28] <It_2927> Getting usb's and Gparted ready
[17:28] <It_2927> Im doing some serious action ;D
[17:28] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: difference? they are as different as kde vs gnome so far as I thought.... what do you mean?
[17:28] <sacarlson> tyler_d: and with virtualbox you can experment with a raid  of 6 disk even if you only have 1 disk
[17:29] <nooblikespear> tyler_d, well I haven't tried the Xubuntu session, but I don't think I ever installed it. I just installed Xfce and Xubuntu is on the list
[17:29] <tyler_d> sacarlson: I haven't played with that so much, but thats excellent to know.
[17:29] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: wow that took long to submit....   --->   http://pastebin.com/YZEShU1Y
[17:29] <nooblikespear> tyler_d, that explains why it took so long to install Xfce, apparently I installed a whole new Operating System?
[17:29] <It_2927> oh and one thing
[17:29] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: xubuntu I would assume would be a generic stripped down version of X
[17:29] <It_2927> is it possible to dual boot
[17:29] <ejv> !enter | It_2927
[17:30] <It_2927> well
[17:30] <It_2927> triple boot
[17:30] <It_2927> 2 distros of linux, windows and nothing else, if so how can i do this?
[17:30] <tyler_d> It_2927: dual booting is normally something I personally avoid, but if you get windows on first then sure; don't see why not, but you cannot use the raid then right.
[17:30] <sacarlson> lt_2927: 10 boots 20 boots just more and smaller partitions
[17:30] <nooblikespear> Just got back to Ubuntu after a year in Windows, they have taken sucking into a whole new level with Unity
[17:30] <ejv> !offtopic | nooblikespear
[17:31] <nooblikespear> how is this offtopic??
[17:31] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: thats not really relevant? what did you want to change?
[17:31] <nooblikespear> and why do you always get so mad whenever someone mentions Unity and how much it sucks ass?
[17:31] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: have you attempted to use gnome-3
[17:31] <socket> hmm, i've reinstalled php5 and now i dont have mysql support, the php mysql driver is missing. any suggestions ? how do i make a clean install ?
[17:31] <nooblikespear> I tried gnome shell, I got basically the same thing
[17:31] <tyler_d> socket: of which one?
[17:31] <It_2927> ....guys
[17:31] <nooblikespear> then I tried Xfce and it seems perfect
[17:31] <socket> tyler_d: php5-gd
[17:31] <nooblikespear> after I customized it to look just like 10.04
[17:32] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, seems ok. is it storage-vault1 or 3 that is the problem?
[17:32] <It_2927> how can i triple boot - backtrack, Xubuntu AND windows 7.......
[17:32] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, and where did the UUID come from for storage-vault1
[17:32] <FacedeProut> escott, here is what I get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/902517/
[17:32] <ejv> nooblikespear, nobody is mad, this is simply the support channel for support related assistance, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and you can go crazy over there with your views on Unity.
[17:32] <tyler_d> socket: sudo apt-get remove bar --purge... or such would get rid of it completely
[17:32] <sacarlson> socket I would just install phpmyadmin  that will have to install what you need
[17:33] <tyler_d> socket: what is the end goal here? LAMP?
[17:33] <nooblikespear> ejv : ok but that still doesn't explain why you're so mad
[17:33] <escott> FacedeProut, looks like you have a proxy in your setup that is down. how about "unset http_proxy"
[17:33] <ejv> nooblikespear: no one is upset, including me, it's part of the steps to keep the channel flowing and less chaotic. please move along.
[17:33] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: ubuntu, even linux is not for everyone, but without expressing a specific problem.. complaining about it should be kept elsewhere imho.
[17:34] <socket> tyler_d: thanks
[17:34] <ejv> It_2927: dual, triple, or quadruple boot, the same steps basically apply: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[17:34] <socket> tyler_d: yes, a dev box with apache, mysql, php - it was working fine untill i used aptitude for some upgrade
[17:35] <tyler_d> socket: do you know what upgrade, and what was the behaviour afterwards please? what was failing?
[17:36] <It_2927> Okay
[17:36] <It_2927> on installing the 2nd distro
[17:36] <It_2927> should I let it install grub again
[17:36] <It_2927> or NOT?
[17:36] <tyler_d> It_2927: I think you have about 2 weeks of reading... and more if you want to get into what is faster :)
[17:37] <ejv> !enter | It_2927
[17:37] <sacarlson> lt_2927: grup-install will just detect each bootable partition and add it to the mbr so do as you wish with grub2
[17:37] <monser> how to see what is the default editor
[17:37] <Shinobi> Ubuntu 10.04: ls -i gives a directory listing (files and direcories) with inodes. ls -i myfile lists inode and file. ls -i mydir lists nothing. Is this normal?
[17:37] <monser> what is the variable for that
[17:37] <It_2927> So I don't need to let it install grub again because it's already there?
[17:37] <monser> $EDITOR
[17:37] <monser> I mean in the terminal
[17:38] <sacarlson> lt_2927: it will want to update the menu list so let it
[17:38] <bastidrazor> Shinobi: you need -d switch to list a directory
[17:38] <bastidrazor> Shinobi: ls -id dir will list it
[17:38] <sacarlson> lt_2927: as long as you install windows X first all should work as far as I know
[17:39] <monser> how to see all variables like $SHELL
[17:39] <monser> what is the command for that?
[17:39] <Amoz> monser, echo $SHELL
[17:39] <Shinobi> bastidrazor: Thanks! So much for consistency... :)
[17:39] <Amoz> dunno about all though..
[17:39] <monser> no I want all others variables
[17:39] <bastidrazor> Shinobi: you're welcome.
[17:39] <monser> set?
[17:40] <Amoz> monser, looks like it
[17:40] <ejv> monser: printenv
[17:41] <ejv> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/chap_03.html this is always helpful to read.
[17:41] <monser> ejv: thanks
[17:41] <ejv> monser: yw
[17:42] <monser> what is yw?
[17:42] <ejv> you're welcome.
[17:42] <monser> :D
[17:43] <socket> where do i find php.ini ?
[17:43] <monser> I gues when one uses man pages it is done via some kind of text editor.Am I right?
[17:43] <ejv> monser: typically something like `less` yes
[17:43] <monser> how to change the editor for that?
[17:44] <monser> there is not variable editor or edit
[17:44] <It_2927> can more than one install use the same swap partition
[17:44] <sacarlson> socket: sometime in the root of the dir of the /var/www/??  you hapen to be working in I think, but also starts from /etc/apache2/??
[17:44] <It_2927> or will another need to be created?
[17:44] <ejv> monser: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[17:44] <SubD> If I want to copy a folder from disk a to disk b does "sudo cp /media/1tb/shows /media/2tb" work? this is theyr mounting points
[17:45] <sacarlson> lt_2927: yes they can all share swap
[17:45] <bluefrog> It_2927, can use same
[17:45] <escott> ejv, man is just a processor that pipes output to "pager" which is aliased to less you can change your pager with /etc/alternatives/pager
[17:45] <auronandace> monser: you want to edit the manpages?
[17:45] <It_2927> the more distrobutions = make the swap bigger?
[17:45] <monser> I want to browse them with nano
[17:45] <sent> .gui apply
[17:45] <ejv> SubD: best to explicity state you want a recursive copy with -R
[17:45] <bluefrog> It_2927, no
[17:45] <auronandace> monser: why?
[17:45] <monser> not to edit them
[17:45] <It_2927> so just leave it alone
[17:45] <sacarlson> SubD: I think you might want to add cp -a /from/path /to/path
[17:45] <It_2927> ok....
[17:45] <monser> does that really matter why?
[17:46] <escott> monser, you could try man something | nano
[17:46] <ejv> escott: im a gentoo user, i'd just use eselect to get the job done ;)
[17:46] <auronandace> monser: whats wrong with: man nameofpage?
[17:46] <sacarlson> SubD: see man cp
[17:46] <escott> ejv, sorry meant to tell monser to change /etc/alternatives/pager but sent to you instead
[17:46] <SubD> sacarlson ejv what's the different of using -a or -R?
[17:47] <ejv> i thinkg using update-alternatives is the appropriate interface
[17:47] <It_2927> im giving 10 gb ext 4 to backtrack
[17:47] <ejv> s/thinkg/think/
[17:47] <escott> SubD, permissions get preserved with -a
[17:47] <ejv> !backtrack | It_2927
[17:47] <SubD> ah ok thanks escott
[17:48] <sacarlson> SubD: -a is arcive will save recusive the user:group  and permisions ;  -R will go recursive but not sure what it saves in permisions
[17:48] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: it's all the StorageVault drives... as for the UUID it came from 'sudo blkid'
[17:48] <It_2927> ejv: Thank you.
[17:49] <FacedeProut> escott, it worked! thank you bro!
[17:49] <It_2927> well, time for me to get going
[17:49] <SubD> sacarlson so "sudo cp /media/1tb/shows /media/2tb -a" should do the job?
[17:49] <It_2927> thanks for the help everyone
[17:49] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, not sure why it appears twice in nautilus. it should see the one entry in fstab and only show that. the uuid on the first is odd because its a full uuid, im used to seeing the uuids in the form of the third which is not actually a uuid. the other thing that is a bit strange is the use of user and uid, but its ok if that is what you want
[17:49] <escott> SubD, args usually come first
[17:50] <escott> SubD, and you probably want -aR
[17:50] <sacarlson> SubD: i normaly put the cp -a .... but that might also work
[17:50] <ejv> supply your options/args after the main command, for clarity, eg: cp -a /path/ /target/
[17:50] <alexstrand7> someone knows about an working nokia PC Suite that works with Nokia 5130
[17:50] <alexstrand7> ?
[17:50] <ejv> honestly, this is a job for rsync, not for cp, guess im old fashioned
[17:50] <SubD> allright thanks for the information escott and sacarlson
[17:52] <sacarlson> subd: ejv: is corect  rsync is beter if running more than one time,  not much different if only the first and only time
[17:52] <alexstrand7> someone knows about an working nokia PC Suite that works with Nokia 5130?
[17:53] <Guest93713> hola
[17:53] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: after further investigating I actually don't think I need the 'user' attribute, but the uid & gid seem to be needed for some strange reason so that mediatomb can access the files on the storage drives (not sure why I never needed it before)
[17:53] <diffra> Why would 11.10 feel slow on relatively new hardware?  i7-620, 6 gigs of ram, quadro 880m, but EVERYTHING just drags and feels slow.
[17:53] <Guest93713> quien eres
[17:53] <sacarlson> subd: ejv: and if the system is remote over ssh rsync again better as it also compresses over lan links
[17:53] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, ntfs doesn't use unix permissions thats why you need uid/gid and the like
[17:53] <SubD> sacarlson: well the copy has started, now I just wonder when 800gb will be done copying, I tought that there would be some kind of a information on how the copying was going, or is there a command for that maybe?
[17:54] <alexstrand7> no one knows how I can connect my Nokia 5130 to my pc so I can sync my contacts?
[17:54] <Guest93713> ooooooooo
[17:54] <Guest93713> dw3de
[17:54] <Guest93713> dxd
[17:54] <Guest93713> e3cd3de
[17:54] <Guest93713> cwe
[17:54] <Guest93713> cd
[17:54] <FloodBot1> Guest93713: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <Guest93713> wc
[17:54] <Guest93713> wd
[17:54] <sacarlson> subd: we should have added cp -av then as that would of added info as it progressed
[17:55] <escott> SubD, you could kill it and start again, or just use rsync which can be interrupted
[17:55] <ejv> glad some people see the light ;)
[17:55] <SubD> sacarlson: oh well I'll remember that next time :D
[17:56] <hubsinger> alexstrand7: did you try syncevolution ?
[17:56] <SubD> escott: nah i'll just let it run through, cant be much more then 2-3 hours :D
[17:56] <alexstrand7> In windows I needed a program called pc suite to sync my phone but I couldn't find a working program for ubuntu
[17:57] <alexstrand7> I'm new to ubuntu, I don't know how to do it
[17:57] <ejv> such a program may not exist, what brand of phone?
[17:58] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to copy files, but I'm getting hung up with links.  It's a Vista drive that I'm trying to copy over to my Ubuntu box before wiping it, and when I copy, there are links pointing back to the windows drive.  That's not good.  I've never run into this before.  What's the procedure to get the files instead of links to them?
[17:58] <craigbass1976> cp -Hr worked in a test, but not when I diid the real copy
[17:58] <alexstrand7> Nokia 5130 Xpress music
[17:58] <alexstrand7> S40
[17:58] <naruto> eeeeeeeeee
[17:58] <alexstrand7> Nokia 5130
[17:58] <sacarlson> alexstrand7: if it doesn't plug and play and become seen as a usb disk then not sure what to try.
[17:58] <escott> craigbass1976, you mean like windows shortcuts? you probably don't mean junctions?
[17:59] <monser> do you know what program is used by default when one browse man pages?
[17:59] <monser> it looks like it is not vom
[17:59] <monser> vim
[17:59] <beandog> monser: man
[17:59] <alexstrand7> I can access my files, that is not the problem, but I want to sync contacts and calendar
[17:59] <monser> my editor is nano
[17:59] <escott> monser, less its set in /etc/alternatives/pager
[17:59] <Pici> monser: Its not vim. The default pager is less.
[17:59] <monser> i see
[17:59] <ejv> didn't we go over this?
[17:59] <ejv> lol
[17:59] <monser> Pici: thank you
[18:00] <blitz> how do I limit myself to one desktop? instead of the default 4
[18:00] <nug700> I'm installing computertemp from the synaptic package manager.. but it freezen on "processing triggers for python-support"
[18:00] <alexstrand7> I can access my files in media mode, but in PC Suite mode nothing happens
[18:00] <monser> so the symbolic link pager is one that determines what is being used
[18:00] <sacarlson> alexstrand7: I guess best to get an android phone next time that is fully supported cross platforms
[18:00] <escott> monser, its your (default) election for the system pager
[18:00] <alexstrand7> I had an android phone but it's not working anymore
[18:01] <monser> what is system pager?
[18:01] <alexstrand7> I'm just using my old phone before I get a new phone
[18:01] <AlanBell> alexstrand7: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/nokuntu-unofficial-nokia-pc-suite-for.html
[18:01] <sacarlson> alexstrand7: you can also move number across with your sim card as I did
[18:01] <monser> utility that just displays things, I guess
[18:01] <escott> monser, it takes output and splits it into "pages" that can be viewed on the screen. you can change it to whatever application you want
[18:02] <sent> he parted  >_>
[18:02] <blitz> what is the viewport switcher?
[18:02] <hubsinger> alexstrand7: it's not just like running a setup.exe but take a look at http://mobileyog.blogspot.com/2010/06/easiest-way-to-sync-your-mobile-phone.html that seems to be quite beginner friendly
[18:02] <monser> escott: thanks
[18:02] <sacarlson> hubsinger: wow bummer he just left, and could have used that
[18:03] <hubsinger> sacarlson: :-(
[18:03] <sacarlson> hubsinger: and it's all my fault :-X
[18:04] <hubsinger> sacarlson: because of the idea with the sim card ? ;-)
[18:04] <ejv> is it an unreasonable expectation he could have googled that result himself with a little effort? i wouldn't kick yourself too much.
[18:05] <sacarlson> hubsinger: no I bumed him out telling him you should have an adroid.  I should of told him the sim card idea first and never spoke of nokia being bad
[18:05] <hubsinger> ejv: oh yes - now that you mention it - there is something called google
[18:06] <beandog> duckduckgo++
[18:06] <dubios> hello, I want to setup automatic ssh auth with public/private keys between an ubuntu 11.10 client and a centos 6 server. I generated an rsa pair and then copied the public key to the server's authorized_keys, but it still requires for a password. is there a known issue with the ubuntu / centos version / combination ?
[18:06] <beandog> dubios: you need to set proper permissons on .ssh of target boxes.  0700 for directory ~/.ssh/ 0600 for ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[18:06] <beandog> dubios: using chmod
[18:07] <escott> dubios, is auth keys an allowed authentication method? what does ssh -vvv username@host say?
[18:07] <sacarlson> dubios: I don't think so but what version of ssh on each side?
[18:07] <dubios> wow, it says a lot of things. wait
[18:08] <jenesaispas> hello there
[18:08] <escott> dubios, redhat (and presumably by extension centos) has IIRC a more restrictive sshd.conf setup than ubuntu
[18:08] <dubios> OpenSSH_5.3p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010 and OpenSSH_5.3p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010
[18:09] <jenesaispas> I've noticed that when I unmount usb disks by right-click on the icon on unity bar(or using nautilus), they are just mounted right back. Any way to avoid that? Am I doing it wrong?
[18:09] <ejv> dubios: you want to set RSAAuthentication yes; PubkeyAuthentication yes; AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys; on your target.
[18:09] <beandog> le sigh.  I just gave you the answer.
[18:09] <ejv> dubios: then restart the openssh-server daemon.
[18:09] <waxstone> youtube.com
[18:09] <dubios> beandog: the permissions are set properly, it's not that
[18:10] <waxstone> oops
[18:10] <beandog> dubios: kk
[18:10] <sacarlson> dubios: escott: ya best we see the ssh server config,  and I guess the client but I think the server should tell
[18:11] <craigbass1976> escott, I have no idea; I've not used Windows much for a while.
[18:11] <beandog> dubios: pastebin ssh -v
[18:11] <blitz> if I get a compiz (core) - Warn: failed to receive ConfigureNotify event on 0x2480894
[18:11] <blitz>  error when I do "sudo compiz --replace" what should I do
[18:11] <dubios> locate sshd.conf returns nothing on centos, do you know the path ? :D
[18:11] <ejv> before suggesting other stuff, give him a second to try escott / my recommendation
[18:11] <ejv> dubios: under /etc/ssh/ presumably
[18:12] <ejv> dubios: for me, my config is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:12] <WA7KPK> Hey all, hopefully a simple question. I have a SB live. It's relaying the output from my line in jack through the speakers. I do NOT want to do this. How do I stop it without just setting the line out level to 0?
[18:12] <sacarlson> dubios: oh ya beandog is probly correct the permitions are critical in ssh , the error would be seen in the logs
[18:12] <blitz> I used the compiz-settings manager to turn off the Desktop Wall
[18:12] <yashwant> hi i am using ubuntu 10.10 can any one explane me how to share ubuntu laptop to window laptop
[18:12] <blitz> and unity went away
[18:12] <escott> craigbass1976, are these files are just text files that list a path to the original file?
[18:12] <beandog> dubios: if you wanted to be extra sure, use ssh-copy-id
[18:12] <blitz> the side dash-y thing
[18:13] <sacarlson> dubios: beandog: ya I think the ssh-copy-id makes sure the file premistions are correct
[18:13] <beandog> dubios: you could also use dropbear in replacement / in addition to openssh
[18:14] <Pici> blitz: you shouldn't be using sudo with that comiz command.
[18:14] <jochans> hi
[18:14] <ejv> you shouldn't be using compiz. FTFY.
[18:14]  * ejv runs
[18:14] <jochans> ja nie rozumiemc
[18:14] <jochans> ja byc z polska
[18:15] <Pici> !pl | jochans
[18:15] <jochans> okokok
[18:15] <jochans> fack you!!
[18:16] <jochans> ?exit
[18:16] <HeN> how can I limit cached ram? seems like 5 of my 8gb ram is cached
[18:16] <craigbass1976> escott, I'm not sure what all of them are.  One I'm currently after is /media/OS/Documents and Settings  If it linked to Users, it's be fine; I could copy it over that way and the link would still work after the copy and restore.  But it links to /media/OS/Users, and once I wipe the drive, my goose is cooked.
[18:16] <escott> HeN, why would you want to
[18:17] <beandog> dubios: any luck?
[18:17] <escott> craigbass1976, can you open these files in a text editor?
[18:17] <dubios> nope, here's my ssh -vvv : https://gist.github.com/2218636
[18:17] <HeN> escott: it seems like my system is being slower
[18:17] <gilmore> HeN: Not sure you'd want to limit it.
[18:17] <escott> HeN, its not
[18:17] <ejv> HeN: you probably don't really want to do that, but if you decide anyways, you want to start adjusting: /proc/sys/vm/ kernel tunables.
[18:17] <NANOnymou5> Can anyone help me with irssi? Actually, im not quite sure if it is the cause of the problem. I cannot connect to any irc server via torify / tsocks :|
[18:17] <gilmore> HeN: Look for another culprit.
[18:18] <craigbass1976> escott, they're links to directories
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> HeN  start from the beginning, what do you want to do, why, and what have you tried before you came here
[18:18] <ejv> HeN: for example /proc/sys/vm/swapiness
[18:18] <escott> craigbass1976, will you please just open one of these links in a text editor and tell me what you see
[18:18] <yashwant> can any one help me how to share linux laptop to window 7 laptop through cable
[18:18] <beandog> dubios: that's way too verbose, can you repaste w/just -v
[18:19] <hubsinger> dubios: sure you have copied the public keys ?
[18:19] <dubios> Ah, it worked, thank you very much guys
[18:19] <superthomas> Does the latest ubuntu run smooth on older hardware( acer aspire 5315 for example)
[18:19] <dubios> "debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey)."
[18:19] <dubios> guess I had to see it in my debug
[18:19] <beandog> hubsinger: looks like it: debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> superthomas  do you mean 11.10 or 12.04?
[18:19] <superthomas> 12.04
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> superthomas  ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:19] <beandog> dubios: it looks to me like it's logging in
[18:20] <craigbass1976> escott, http://pastebin.com/d1w8hvwn
[18:20] <gilmore> superthomas: xubuntu is good for older hardware, (not sure what 5315 is or how limited it  is but...)
[18:20] <dubios> yes beandog, it works, thanks
[18:20] <craigbass1976> yashshah, a single cable, or is there a switch/router involved?
[18:20] <semilleros> holas
[18:21] <yashshah> craigbass1976: I did not get you.
[18:21] <HeN> thanks everyone
[18:21] <gilmore> yashwant: Crossover cable?
[18:21] <escott> craigbass1976, that is "vi" opening a directory. try and "cat filename.lnk"
[18:21] <yashwant> craigbass1976, I ma pursonally using laptop i am not using cable but i want using cross wire
[18:22] <craigbass1976> escott, cat: Documents and Settings: Is a directory
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[18:22] <beandog> dubios: cool :)
[18:22] <gilmore> yashwant: Just user  IP addresses in the same subnet
[18:22] <escott> craigbass1976, ok. so it is a directory. im not understanding the problem. is it a symlink? ls -l Documen*
[18:22] <beandog> gilmore: is it that easy?  never tried it.
[18:23] <yashwant> gilmore, but i have not created any subnet
[18:23] <gilmore> beandog: Pretty much... Just depends on what kind of service you want to employ.
[18:23] <beandog> gilmore: intresting.
[18:24] <craigbass1976> escott, I believe it is, as are a bunch of others.  ls -l gives me  lrwxrwxrwx 2 craig craig         60 Oct 17  2007 Documents and Settings -> /media/OS/Users  I can't for the life of me figure out why it won't copy like a nice little link should.
[18:25] <BobMarley> hello
[18:25] <escott> craigbass1976, you can ask copy to traverse symlinks "man cp | grep -C2 dereference"
[18:25] <NANOnymou5> Does anyone know why irssi wont connect to irc servers via torify / tsocks?
[18:26] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: i assume /media/OS/Users is a directory?  does cd "Documents and Settings" work (why would anyone call anything that?)
[18:26] <ziex> Anyone else here managed to get gta sa-mp working on their distribution?
[18:26] <BobMarley> this page is for qemu?
[18:26] <Pici> NANOnymou5: If you mean freenode servers, you should ask in #freenode, they require specific settings.
[18:27] <craigbass1976> zykotick9, ask Bill Gates why.  He named it.  Brilliant!
[18:27] <webnet> zykotick9, ive been wondering that forever
[18:28] <webnet> zykotick9, in the newer windoez they shortened it to "Users"
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> ziex  what's that exactly?
[18:28] <gilmore> webnet: Good idea!
[18:28] <webnet> lol ya
[18:28] <Pici> ziex: #winehq would probably be a better place to ask.
[18:28] <craigbass1976> zykotick9, in vista and 7, MS finaly started putting user's data in "not-quite-so-stupidly-named" directories
[18:29] <plusEV> lulz
[18:29] <webnet> craigbass1976, hahahah yep
[18:29] <ziex> Thanks guys, i'll go to #winehq
[18:29] <daniel__> hola queria saber si alguien me puede ayudar
[18:29] <ziex> #
[18:29] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: thankfully, i haven't used MS as a desktop since WinXP (pre SP1)
[18:29] <s10loridr> I have a backup rsync script that runs on windows xp machines that backs up to an ubuntu server. The xp clients need shell access after the rsync operation has completed to move certain folders around so it knows what the current backup is the next time it runs. I'd like to lock these backup user accounts into a backup folder when using ssh(its home folder). Whats the best way to go about
[18:29] <s10loridr> this... is there any way other than created a chroot jail?
[18:29] <HeN> if i am using the 32bit version with pae kernel and i have 8gb ram, what should be my swap partition size?
[18:29] <webnet> just out of curiousity anyone know where the hell the system32 folder's name came from?
[18:30] <ejv> s10loridr: chown/chomd is insufficient because?
[18:30] <escott> HeN, however large you want it to be
[18:30] <plusEV> prolly 32 bit
[18:30] <Pici> Can we move the Windows discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> webnet  sounds windows to me, ask in ##widows (double #)
[18:31] <dev_> can;t get mysql service to run
[18:31] <HeN> I did it 1gb, is it enough escott?
[18:31] <dev_> can you please help, I can run it in safe mode no problem
[18:31] <dev_> but fail to start service
[18:31] <craigbass1976> escott, so -L should copy the actual files and not just links to the files?
[18:31] <HeN> actually its only using 11mb of it right now
[18:31] <escott> s10loridr, have you looked at the restricted rsync maybe you can adapt that script to update the backups when they are done
[18:31] <NANOnymou5> Pici, thank you
[18:32] <sburwood1> I want to connect my ubuntu desktop to my android tablet. It isn't recognized by mtp, but sourceforge says I need GIT of MTP. I need to download it and then compile it. Who wants to walk me through that?
[18:32] <webnet> MonkeyDust, lol. i know. it just seems dumb name... and i have no desire to visit the lovely people in the windoez channel. tried that once to get help on a comp i was fixing for a friend... some of thoes guys egos cant fit on all of freenod... ugk
[18:32] <escott> HeN, you don't have to have a swap if you don't want one. I think thats silly and would say stick with the standard 1xRAM-2xRAM but you can get lots of opinions on that
[18:32] <ejv> For what it's worth the guys in #windows have always been extremely friendly and knowledgeable. Keep an open mind.
[18:33] <HeN> escott: thanks
[18:33] <sacarlson> s10loridr: ssh rsync is already limited to writing to the ssh account it logs into so I'm not sure what problem you might have
[18:33] <gilmore> sburwood1: What exactly do you want to accomplish?  Share files?
[18:33] <dev_> can someone please help me with getting the mysql service (fresh install on ubunutu) to work
[18:33] <dev_> i've insta;; 5.1
[18:33] <dev_> service won't start
[18:33] <escott> s10loridr, you should be able (very easily with authkeys) to restrict their actions to particular commands of your choosing
[18:33] <webnet> dev_, what isnt working?
[18:33] <dev_> safe mode
[18:33] <dev_> is working
[18:33] <dev_> but not the service
[18:34] <jrib> !enter | dev_
[18:34] <dev_> no logs
[18:34] <FloodBot1> dev_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <beandog> well this is a new one ... terminal font is blurred on the crappy monitor.
[18:34] <sburwood1> Gilmore wanna get a 68mb mp3 file to my tablet - for the moment from my desktop
[18:34] <sacarlson> dev_: did you install phpmyadmin ?
[18:34] <webnet> dev_, try this in terminal: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[18:34] <dev_> start: Job failed to start
[18:34] <webnet> ok. hmm
[18:35] <gilmore> sburwood1: I use "file expert" on my android phone.  I'll bet it's available for the tablet too.
[18:35] <ejv> ubuntu uses upstart right? the non-taboo command is: service mysql start
[18:35]  * jrib nods
[18:35] <zykotick9> webnet: 1) using inti.d is deprecated 2) that would require sudo to work
[18:35] <dev_> there used to be a command of sh +x on /etc/init.d/...
[18:35] <s10loridr> i just need to prevent a user from being able to CD up out of their home folder and see the rest of the filesystem
[18:35] <sacarlson> dev_: you must have modified one or more of the mysql data bases?
[18:35] <webnet> zykotick9, it is? i use it on 10.10 all the time.
[18:35] <dev_> i deleted all mysql files and reinstall
[18:36] <dev_> its a fresh install
[18:36] <escott> s10loridr, start here and see if you can modify it /usr/share/doc/rsync/scripts/rrsync.gz
[18:36] <zykotick9> webnet: it might work, but it's still outdated
[18:36] <webnet> ok
[18:36] <webnet> good to know
[18:36] <sburwood1> Gilmore, gonna look into that option - my tablet is recognized in PTP mode (pictures), but not mtp
[18:36] <tyler_d> dev_: what do your logs say about not starting?
[18:36] <sacarlson> dev_: deleted manualy or did a apt-get purge mysql?
[18:37] <s10loridr> escott, thanks... the rsync funtion im fine with, but after rsync completes i need the script to conenct via ssh and run a couple commands.
[18:37] <dev_> first i did remove --purge
[18:37] <dev_> and then deleted whatever i could find
[18:37] <jrib> dev_: be more explicit.  "remove --purge" WHAT
[18:37] <escott> s10loridr, you can take a horse to water but you cant make him drink
[18:37] <sacarlson> tyler_d: has a good point dev_: what does the mysql logs say about failed starts
[18:37] <dev_> remove --purge mysql-server-5.1
[18:37] <mattia53> ciao
[18:38] <jrib> if he's deleted a bunch of files manually, that probably needs to be rectified first
[18:38] <gilmore> sburwood1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xcxin.filexpert&hl=en
[18:38] <jrib> dev_: and then what did you delete manually?
[18:38] <mattia53> !list
[18:39] <Fr3d3riK> hi,  how do i check what libs does file need to be executed?
[18:39] <chris__> what is the uptodate recommend procedure for encrypting a ssd? home encrypted with ecryptfs or luks/dm-crypt leaving some unpartitioned space for wear leveling?
[18:39] <dev_> i deleted /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql
[18:40] <escott> Fr3d3riK, ldd binaryfilename
[18:40] <ejv> unless you have a very nice CPU with AES-NI support, you sorta of potentially ruin the SSD experience using encryption on it, but you already know that right? :)
[18:40] <Fr3d3riK> thank you
[18:41] <gilmore> ldd prints the shared libraries required by each program or shared library specified on the command line
[18:42] <sacarlson> dev_: ok and now when you reinstall?  and try to restart what do the error logs in /var/logs/mysql ; say?
[18:42] <ejv> chris__: that being said, luks/dm-crypt works quite nice
[18:43] <Fr3d3riK> exit
[18:44] <chris__> ejv: got an i5 with aes-ni here. and bought crucial m4 today. now i am confused if luks/crypt-dm without trim support would ruin my performance especially  as the m4 has no overprovisioning.
[18:45] <fyksen> Hey! I got laggy windows. Everything else is snappy, but my windows are lagging when I drag them around. I got ubuntu 11.10 64bit. Nvidia 460, NvidiaDriver: 295.33
[18:46] <ejv> chris__: i know very little about TRIM support/performance under linux; dare i say that might be something to investigate via Phoronix.
[18:46] <jrib> !who |  dev_
[18:47] <jrib> dev_: what is the output of: dpkg -S /etc/mysql /var/lib/mysql
[18:49] <elisamarie08> ciao a tutti
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> list
[18:49] <Pici> MonkeyDust: tsk
[18:49] <elisamarie08> !list
[18:49] <elisamarie08> list
[18:49] <axl_> hello
[18:50] <chris__> ejv: looks like i have to do a bit more of investigation before migrating my system. archlinux ssd guide seems to bee a good supplement to the ubuntu wiki. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD#Encrypted_partition
[18:51] <fyksen> Hey! I got laggy windows. Everything else is snappy, but my windows are lagging when I drag them around. I got ubuntu 11.10 64bit. Nvidia 460, NvidiaDriver: 295.33
[18:51] <cebaldocchi> how i configure grub?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> !grub| cebaldocchi start here
[18:52] <dubios> how do I see if I have mod_rewrite enabled in apache?
[18:52] <ejv> chris__: in many cases it's superior to the ubuntu docs
[18:53] <Pici> dubios: sudo apache2ctl -M
[18:53] <sacarlson> dubios: I don't think it's enabled by default
[18:54] <sacarlson> dubios: it will be in /etc/apache2/??
[18:54] <chris__> ejv: i am also tempted to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 for the new kernel and cryptsetup but i don't wanna gamble with my coding machine
[18:55] <rob43> I need to run XP in a vm, would you guys recommend xen or virtualbox?
[18:55] <craigbass1976> exit
[18:55] <craigbass1976> bah...
[18:55] <sacarlson> chris__: I know there are alot of things still not present in 12.04 so unless your a minimalist or it has what you want or need now then go for it
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> rob43  i have it in vbox, runs wmoothly, ok
[18:55] <escott> rob43, i think with xen you need a modified version of windows
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> smoothly*
[18:56] <Pici> escott: no you don't.
[18:56] <rob43> MonkeyDusty+escott:ah ok ty
[18:56] <rob43> your combined answer is def making me lean towards vbox
[18:56] <rob43> :p
[18:56] <escott> Pici, ok then wikipedia needs updating as well
[18:57] <escott> Pici, or i just need to read more carefully
[18:57] <mads-> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop using wubi. Can I somehow erase the windows partition and merge the extra space with the wubi installation?
[18:58] <nicm_> Hello! When I try to boot into Ubunto 10,04 on my computer it hangs on the following error message: "nForce_smbus 0000:00:01.1: Error Probing SMB2". I've tried googling but I can't follow the fixes (also, it hangs, and won't boot further). Halp!
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> mads-  no, wubi is inside windows, better use the live cd to install and then erase the win partition
[18:58] <escott> mads-, not a safe thing to do. you need to reinstall/move the wubi to ext4. wubi might have a migration tool
[18:58] <mads-> damn
[18:58] <nicm_> Also, I know literally NOTHING about Ubuntu, I just migrated from windows like, a few days ago,
[18:58] <mads-> Thing is I don't have a CD or USB
[18:58] <sacarlson> mads-: wubi is more like a method of trail for ubuntu not fully supported not running in it's own real partition
[18:59] <Xabster> nicm_, stop using the word literally wrong
[18:59] <Xabster> it's literally annoying
[18:59] <nicm_> Xabster: Sorry. Picked it up somewhere. You're correct, of course.
[18:59] <Xabster> of course.
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> nicm_  offtopic: start here then http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[19:00] <Xabster> about your problem... not a clue
[19:00] <nicm_> MonkeyDust: bookmarked, thanks
[19:01] <n-iCe> since when did linux mint is more popular than ubuntu in distro-watch :o ?
[19:01] <escott> n-iCe, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and distro-watch statistics
[19:02] <sacarlson> n-iCe: just glance at the irc of #mint and find out the real number of realtime interested parties
[19:02] <n-iCe> escott: hahaha
[19:03] <n-iCe> sacarlson: the linux mint network is not freenode?
[19:03] <sacarlson> n-iCe: I know check it
[19:03] <n-iCe> when will be the new ubuntu release be released?
[19:03] <sacarlson> !mint
[19:04] <Pici> n-iCe: April 26th if all goes according to plan.
[19:05] <n-iCe> Pici: I see, big changes?
[19:06] <gilmore> n-iCe: Everything is big when it comes to ubuntu. (even #ubuntu is big).
[19:06] <Pici> n-iCe: Check the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/beta1 (more discussion in #ubuntu+1)
[19:06] <DarsVaeda> how do I disable icedtea plugin? I installed sun java 7 and have that plugin already showing in firefox but icedtea is still there and seems to overwrite it
[19:07] <gilmore> DarsVaeda: Is it a firefox plugin?  Or ubuntu package?
[19:07] <zykotick9> gilmore: both ;)
[19:07] <DarsVaeda> I installed it manually so I guess not a package
[19:07] <Casey105> hi everyone
[19:07] <bjrohan> I had an issue a few days ago, where Unity would not load in 3D version, but through recovery I could get it to boot into 2D. Today after applying updates (I an running 12.04), I can now boot into Unity 3D by default in grub, however there is no system tray, nor launcher. Any suggestions?
[19:08] <zykotick9> bjrohan: re-ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:08] <DarsVaeda> it is the same behavior in chromium btw
[19:09] <DarsVaeda> but I can disable icedtea there
[19:09] <gilmore> zykotick9: DarsVaeda Well, obviously, if it is a package, just un-install it.  If it is a firefox, (again), uninstall it.
[19:09] <zykotick9> DarsVaeda: why did you install icedtea manually?  there is a package availabe?
[19:09] <DarsVaeda> I installed sun-java manually
[19:09] <gilmore> DarsVaeda: Oh, sorry, didn't see you say you installed it manually.
[19:10] <zykotick9> DarsVaeda: oh, then you can just "sudo apt-get remove icedtea" i believe
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> DarsVaeda  sun-java is no longer supported, use open-java
[19:10] <gilmore> DarsVaeda: But you sould still be able to use dpkg to remove it.
[19:10] <DarsVaeda> no that will install sun-java-6
[19:10] <DarsVaeda> @zykotick
[19:10] <zykotick9> DarsVaeda: iceatea and sun-java shouldn't have anything in common (really)
[19:11] <DarsVaeda> MonkeyDust: sorry that is not very helpful, openjdk just doesn not work in all places :/
[19:11] <n-iCe> is there any way to know if changed has been made in a driver?
[19:11] <n-iCe> rtl8187 is the driver I would like to know all the changes and upgrades/updates made
[19:11] <nicm_> Just going to ask again quickly before logging out if anyone knows what it means to hang on boot with an error message "error failed to probe smb2"
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> DarsVaeda  i'm sorry if it's not useful, but oracle does no longer support java for linux
[19:12] <nexusIL> hi I used synap and there are alot of "dead" reposotories is there's a way to clean them? I regularly use yum and new to mint
[19:12] <sacarlson> n-iCe: I guess it in the kernel and the kernel is all it git and git is cool you can look back in time and see all changes
[19:12] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: that's not true - they just don't allow anyone to distribute it anymore
[19:12] <gilmore> nicm_: See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/440470
[19:12] <n-iCe> sacarlson: there are no .txt's or something to read the changes of an specific driver?
[19:12] <gilmore> nicm_: Not sure if that is it but just googled it.
[19:13] <DarsVaeda> I found you can disable the plugin in firefox too, thanks
[19:13] <nicm_> Gilmore: That one suggests I suppress the message by editing the "grub file", but I can't even boot into my file system to edit it :\
[19:13] <sacarlson> n-iCe: I'm not sure, nothing better than looking at git like with gitg and see each change in whatever part of the kernel try you wish
[19:13] <Glacee> question about ubuntu precise
[19:13] <gilmore> nicm_: Let me look....
[19:13] <n-iCe> sacarlson: any tuto to know how to
[19:14] <zykotick9> !precise | Glacee
[19:14] <nicm_> gilmore: thx :D
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Glacee  there's #ubuntu+1 for precise
[19:15] <sacarlson> n-iCe: too many to count http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkgSjRnay4
[19:16] <gilmore> nicm_: What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[19:16] <nicm_> gilmore: 10.04
[19:16] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:16] <sacarlson> n-iCe: http://sixrevisions.com/resources/git-tutorials-beginners/  this is just the top 10 of them
[19:16] <CampinSam> Hey, I hit alt+ctrl+f2, and I can't remember how to return to the running x session, what command can I run from the commandline too do that?
[19:17] <nicm_> gilmore: i tried running the boot repair disk but it completed the operation and didn't help
[19:17] <RyuGuns> Anyone know a good nintendo 64 emulator?
[19:17] <gilmore> nicm_: Point release?
[19:17] <zykotick9> RyuGuns: mupen64plus
[19:18] <trojanfu> ada cewek indonesia kaga ya
[19:18] <beandog> CampinSam: alt f7
[19:18] <zykotick9> capt-rogers: alt+f7 (or f8) to get back to GUI
[19:18] <nicm_> gilmore: umm, not sure, how do I find out?
[19:18] <gilmore> nicm_: Ubuntu 10.04.3 ?
[19:18] <RyuGuns> zykotick9: Tried it, seems to be shit.
[19:18] <zykotick9> CampinSam: alt+f7 (or f8) to get back to GUI
[19:18] <zykotick9> RyuGuns: welcome to /ignore
[19:18] <panx> Hello, anyone can help me setup lightdm as  defauls login screen( know that ive Xubuntu) ??
[19:18] <CampinSam> mm..
[19:18] <CampinSam> Thanks.
[19:18] <gilmore> nicm_: What ISO did you download? (Look at the filename.)
[19:19] <nicm_> gilmore: 10.04.4 LTS
[19:20] <gilmore> nicm_: Did you try booting the safe mode?
[19:20] <nicm_> gilmore: yeah, no dice (well "recovery" mode)
[19:20] <buhman> erm, where's the /etc/inittab?
[19:21] <BobMarley> hello
[19:21] <cookiecaks> hai
[19:22] <nicm_> gilmore: It's a relatively new install, I think I might just re-install from the .iso...
[19:23] <gilmore> nicm_: reading....
[19:24] <gilmore> nicm_: Did it boot ok when you first installed?
[19:24] <nicm_> Gilmore: yeah, it worked fine for several days.
[19:24] <roasted> Question - is there no way to list your apps in Unity from a-z? They're kind of all over the place. :(
[19:25] <nicm_> Gilmore: I'm not sure what went wrong. The last thing I did was install, what's it called, pysdm, storage device manager.
[19:25] <nicm_> Gilmore: I'm not sure the smb2 error is causing the hang, or whether there is some kind of separate booting issue caused by something else entirely
[19:27] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if ubuntu hads this package iwl6000g2b-firmware?
[19:28] <bjrohan> What is the default UBUNTU built in bug reporting app?
[19:28] <AI|Loop> what do you mean
[19:28] <gilmore> nicm_: I was on the wrong one.  Looks like I should have been reading this one:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/575296
[19:28] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:29] <zykotick9> !bug | bjrohan
[19:29] <cookiecaks> I want my bitch/complain room now
[19:29] <cookiecaks> anyone have any suggestions?
[19:29] <hcc23> Good afternoon. I am trying to set up a VNC server on a Ubuntu 11.10 box  and run into the strange behavious that the session created via lightdm.conf don't present any usable desktop after the login screen. Changin to "Ubuntu 2D" get's me some things, but still no usable applications... Any hints?
[19:29] <zykotick9> cookiecaks: try /dev/null
[19:29] <nicm_> gilmore: reading, thx
[19:29] <hcc23> (I normally am using opensuses and hence don't really know my way around ubuntu...)
[19:29] <bjrohan> thanks zykotick9 - I entered that into the launcher, and nothing came up
[19:30] <beandog> cookiecaks: what happened
[19:30] <zykotick9> bjrohan: command line application i believe
[19:30] <perlsyntax> anyone know if there a package call iwl6000g2b-firmware in ubuntu or not?
[19:30] <geekbri> I'm trying to add a variable to my bash prompt, and its simply not working.  would anybody wager to help me with such a dark thing :)
[19:30] <AI|Loop> hcc23 : vnc often lags a lot, especially if your link is slow. It might not be suitable to you but I suggest using sshd/openssh
[19:30] <beandog> geekbri: like what
[19:30] <zykotick9> geekbri: #bash might be more help?
[19:31] <geekbri> zykotick9: I might go poke around there thanks
[19:31] <beandog> geekbri: export FOO=bar
[19:31] <Dulak> geekbri: ${VARNAME}
[19:31] <hcc23> AI|Loop: I am trying to do this via our internal 1000Mbit network, tunneling into the ubuntu box and forwarding the VNC ports...
[19:32] <nicm_> gilmore: strange, that bug still seems benign. I have no idea what is causing my system to hang... I will use a live CD to backup some files and then re-install, maybe try 11.10
[19:32] <zykotick9> geekbri: if you do, give more details in your question.  Those #bash people are "serious" ;)
[19:32] <hcc23> AI|Loop: Also, connecting to the "shared" desktop on :0 (via Xvnc) works flawlessly, just the extra instances on :1 (created via tightvnc and the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file) don't give my the unity desktop...
[19:33] <cookiecaks> beandog: I hate life and want to bitch
[19:33] <cookiecaks> zykotick9: no u
[19:33] <cookiecaks> nah I don't hate life, just bored
[19:33] <gilmore> nicm_: Yea, maybe try 11.10?  Or 11.10 xubuntu (would be my preference).
[19:33] <geekbri> zykotick9, Dulak, beandog: im basically trying this in my .bashrc and it certainly isn't working. https://gist.github.com/2219539
[19:33] <beandog> cookiecaks: well thats poopy, what happened
[19:33] <cookiecaks> beandog: you happened >:|
[19:33] <cookiecaks> YUNOABORT
[19:34] <Pici> cookiecaks: This is a support channel. Do you actually have a question or are you going to continue with this nonsense?
[19:34] <beandog> cookiecaks: that usually bugs other people too
[19:34] <cookiecaks> Pici: I need support, I am an alcoholic.
[19:34] <endafy> what is a better application other than recordmydesktop?
[19:35] <zykotick9> geekbri: well, my ititial comment is, my .bashrc doesn't have any export lines...
[19:35] <hcc23> endafy: vlc
[19:35] <endafy> vlc will record the desktop?
[19:35] <hcc23> it should AFAIK.
[19:35] <geekbri> zykotick9: I tried without them as well with the same result.
[19:36] <endafy> heh ill try it thanks for the info
[19:36] <zykotick9> geekbri: are you running "source .bashrc" after making changes?
[19:36] <hcc23> endafy: in vlc try menu Media->Record capture device and then select desktop....
[19:36] <Dulak> geekbri: you can either move the shell-out into the prompt with \$(code here),  or push the code into a function, and do \$(functionname) in the prompt
[19:37] <geekbri> Dulak: Ah, I tried that and failed, perhaps it was because i was missing the \$
[19:37] <Dulak> geekbri: Yeah the prompt is tricksy like that.
[19:37] <beandog> geekbri: you've got the idea, put it in .bashrc, but remove "export"
[19:38] <beandog> geekbri: then create a new terminal window, and yer done
[19:38] <nicm_> general question: i'm in the 11.10 live cd gui environment and I would like to move some files from one hdd (which I will be formatting soon) to another, but it says I don't have permission
[19:38] <geekbri> Dulak: It did not work :(
[19:38] <nicm_> is there any way to elevate my privileges that doesn't involve long command line sequences in the terminal?
[19:39] <beandog> sudo su -
[19:39] <nicm_> can I just "sudo" drag and drop?
[19:39] <geekbri> Dulak, beandog: changed to the following https://gist.github.com/2219539
[19:39] <beandog> geekbri: that's gonna run hostname every time
[19:39] <beandog> which is why they set a variable
[19:40] <escott> nicm_, you could gksudo nautilus, but be very very careful
[19:40] <geekbri> beandog: ok, but the way I had it before didnt work even without the export?
[19:40] <beandog> geekbri: put it in ~/.bashrc
[19:40] <beandog> then it'll work
[19:40] <geekbri> beandog: thats where it was :X
[19:40] <nicm_> escott: what could go wrong potentially?
[19:41] <Dulak> geekbri: you need to export PS1 to push it into the parent shell, otherwise it is only local to the run of .bashrc, not the parent environment
[19:41] <geekbri> ok so the export IS needed
[19:41] <dfgas-cr48> hello
[19:41] <Dulak> geekbri: Yes, otherwise it only applies while .bashrc is actually running
[19:41] <geekbri> Dulak: gotcha, do I need to do ${} for the variable?
[19:41] <dfgas-cr48> how do i get buttons on top of window to the right?
[19:41] <escott> nicm_, because guis are more powerful and are not visually distinguished they way your sudo -i prompt is. make sure you close all those root nautilus windows when you are done
[19:42] <ThinkT510> !controls | dfgas-cr48
[19:42] <beandog> geekbri: no, you don't need export.
[19:42] <nicm_> escott: okay, I just want to move a couple folders, then shut down right away
[19:42] <beandog> geekbri: put it in .bashrc.  Open a new terminal.
[19:42] <geekbri> beandog: I've been doing that but it seems to simply not exist
[19:42] <Dulak> geekbri: You don't have to but it makes sure there is no ambiguity and the shell won't be confused.
[19:43] <beandog> geekbri: pastebin it?
[19:43] <geekbri> beandog: k one sec
[19:43] <heftig> does ubuntu use voluntary kernel preemption, or a preemptible kernel?
[19:43] <nicm_> escott: thanks for the warning though
[19:43] <hcc23> does anybody know where/how lightdm starts the tightvncserver if there is a [VNCServer] entry in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf? does a vnc server instance created that way have any kind of log file somewhere?
[19:43] <Dulak> geekbri: the export is absolutely needed to push PS1 into the parent shell, which is the bash shell you are running from.
[19:44] <beandog> Dulak: that's true.  Or just source the file.  But it doesn't need to be in .bashrc
[19:44] <geekbri> Dulak: https://gist.github.com/2219539 that is what I have currently.  It doesn't work.  interestingly enough If i move the $environment variable to the front of the string it works... although that is not where i want it
[19:44] <escott> heftig, it should be preemptible most have been for years, except maybe RT kernels?
[19:44] <heftig> escott: just noticed fedora is using voluntary, was wondering about ubuntu
[19:45] <beandog> geekbri: take out export
[19:45] <beandog> o.O
[19:45] <geekbri> beandog: doesn't work with or without the export
[19:45] <beandog> geekbri: you have it on the second line
[19:45] <geekbri> beandog: yeah im saying on the PS1 line it doesn't work with or without it
[19:45] <beandog> wait a second, that's not your *entire* .bashrc is it?
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: no no no, i have the general ubuntu one
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: with this appended at the bottom
[19:46] <beandog> geekbri: okay.  How are you testing it then?
[19:46] <gilmore> dfgas-cr48: http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/CustomizeUbuntu  Scroll down about half way, (under "Here are my suggested changes")
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: im logging out then back in (instead of sourcing)
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: I do see that PS1 is being set further up in the file, but I just assuemd this would overwrite that.
[19:46] <beandog> geekbri: it will overwrite it
[19:47] <escott> heftig, grep -i preempt /boot/config-3.0.0-11-generic  it is voluntary
[19:47] <gilmore> dfgas-cr48: "Scroll down and click the down arrow beside metacity. Select general under metacity and then look to the right panel. Select the text to the right of button_layout and change it to ?:minimize,maximize,close?."
[19:47] <heftig> escott: okay, thanks
[19:47] <escott> heftig, they are probably concerned about bad drivers
[19:47] <heftig> with good reason
[19:47] <BobMarley> hi
[19:47] <dfgas-cr48> ty
[19:47] <gilmore> NP
[19:47] <beandog> geekbri: what happens when you run that in the terminal, without export
[19:48] <heftig> I've been running into some horrible RCU hangs with the wifi drivers here, and I think it's the preemptible RCU that's at fault
[19:48] <BobMarley> i try to mount as a guest the ubuntu 10.04 with qemu
[19:48] <heftig> or rather, the driver's interaction with the rcu
[19:48] <BobMarley> and when i write the following command :
[19:48] <BobMarley> qemu -hda ubuntu-test -cdrom ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso -m 192 -boot d
[19:48] <geekbri> beandog: just shows me the normal prompt without the added variable.  If i pull the variable to the front it works
[19:48] <BobMarley> i get this result:
[19:48] <BobMarley> open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[19:48] <BobMarley> Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support
[19:48] <BobMarley> qemu: could not open disk image ubuntu-test: No such file or directory
[19:48] <BobMarley> so what is the problem?
[19:49] <beandog> geekbri: wait, whut?
[19:49] <BobMarley> do i need to put the iso file somewhere in some specific folder?
[19:49] <Dulak> It's not like I wrote my own .bashrc that plenty of people have used, what do I know.  https://bitbucket.org/alwassoc/mybashrc/overview
[19:49] <beandog> geekbri: that should reset your prompt
[19:49] <beandog> geekbri: do this: PS1=""
[19:50] <guntbert> !enter | BobMarley (it is hard to read your question over many lines)
[19:50] <ghostconn> im having trouble installing a kde login screen.. i have downloaded the theme but I have no idea where to drag it to
[19:51] <geekbri> beandog: that blanks out my prompt.
[19:51] <gilmore> ghostconn: What did you download?
[19:51] <beandog> geekbri: okay, then run "echo $environment"
[19:51] <beandog> geekbri: what's that do
[19:51] <BobMarley> i try to mount as a guest the ubuntu 10.04 with qemu
[19:51] <BobMarley> and when i write the following command :
[19:51] <BobMarley>  qemu -hda ubuntu-test -cdrom ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso -m 192 -boot d
[19:51] <BobMarley> i get this result:
[19:51] <BobMarley>  open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[19:51] <FloodBot1> BobMarley: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <BobMarley>  Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support
[19:52] <gilmore> BobMarley: You already said all that.
[19:52] <Shinobi> Beagle isn't in the repos. What do people use index documents and search?
[19:52] <NewWorld> Shinobi:  `locate` and `grep` ?
[19:53] <gilmore> and find
[19:53] <BobMarley> gilmore,  yes but there were people that found it hard to read betwen many other lines
[19:53] <gilmore> o
[19:54] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/902734/
[19:54] <BobMarley> the same thing
[19:54] <gilmore> BobMarley: That's better
[19:54] <gfc> hello
[19:55] <gilmore> gfc;  We're not very helloish around here, but  hello anyway.
[19:55] <BobMarley> like+
[19:55] <BobMarley> gfc
[19:56] <Shinobi> NewWorld: anything nice for gnome?
[19:56] <NewWorld> Shinobi:   I dunno sorry, was just suggesting what I know of
[19:57] <Shinobi> I was looking at docfetcher: http://docfetcher.sourceforge.net/en/index.html
[19:57] <Shinobi> NewWorld: It's all good. :)
[19:57] <geekbri> beandog: shows me "qa" which is what the $environment variable should be set to
[19:58] <fernandocueva> how to load my email messenger under empathy
[19:58] <BobMarley> so does somebody know how do i solve my problem?
[19:58] <fernandocueva> I loaded the program entered the keyring password but it doesn't load my account
[19:58] <beandog> geekbri: okay, now enter PS1="\[\e]0;\u@\h $environment: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$"
[19:59] <buhman> I want to start autossh on boot, how can I go about doing this?
[19:59] <geekbri> beandog: qa appears nowhere in the prompt
[19:59] <Shinobi> Will an inode of a file/direcoty ever change during the files lifetime? Will an operation such as mv ever change an inode? (Assuming I stay on the same filesystem)
[19:59] <geekbri> beandog: its back to my regular prompt
[19:59] <beandog> geekbri: back to regular prompt meaning ubuntu default or what
[20:00] <az1298az> cool!
[20:00] <geekbri> beandog: exactly.  The following works: PS1="\e[0;31m$(hostname -f | cut -d '.' -f 2) \e[0m\[\e]0;\u@\h \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$"
[20:00] <geekbri> beandog: however i wanted that qa to be after the \h which it doesn't seem to like
[20:00] <beandog> geekbri: eh, well, at this point, I'd say just go with that
[20:01] <geekbri> beandog: perhaps, although its not what my boss wants so i might plug away al ittle longer
[20:01] <beandog> geekbri: I think I managed to duplicate it.
[20:01] <geekbri> beandog: same problem?
[20:02] <beandog> geekbri: yah, its the placement inside the brackets [] that ignores it
[20:02] <geekbri> beandog: i tried shifting the brackets around but it didnt like it.. im pretty sure brackets mean "non printable characters"
[20:02] <geekbri> or at least commands
[20:03] <beandog> geekbri: yah something like that.  I dunno.  Sorry mon.
[20:03] <Dulak> geekbri: \[\]  is zero width chars,  [] are passed through
[20:03] <beandog> geekbri: I was chasing the wrong problem the whole time.  sorry about that.
[20:04] <Dulak> geekbri: https://bitbucket.org/alwassoc/mybashrc/src/abc88c540763/.mybashrc#cl-114
[20:04] <ghostconn> where would i install a kmd theme
[20:05] <geekbri> Dulak: not sure I follow.
[20:05] <ubuntu_> ciao a tutti
[20:06] <ghostconn> where would i install a kdm login screen theem
[20:06] <ThinkT510> !it | ubuntu_
[20:06] <Dulak> geekbri: You use \[\] to denote zero width chars, like escape codes that change the color but don't add to the width of the prompt.  Plain [ and ] are shown as-is in the prompt.
[20:06] <NewWorld> ghostconn:  Maybe you should ask in #kde
[20:06] <xalbo> Earlier today, I upgraded some packages in Update Manager, and after a required reboot, my second monitor doesn't work. I haven't touched the configuration for *years* (since it's been working smoothly), so I remember the graphics card is nvidia, I'm using TwinView, and I don't remember much else.
[20:06] <ubuntu_> oggi ho installato ubuntu e dopo aver fatto l'aggiornamento al riavvio mi è apparso lo schemo nero con il messaggio di canbiare risoluzione. come si fa?
[20:06] <ubuntu_> grazie
[20:07] <az1298az> Is
[20:07] <LmAt> I have a windows machine, can I install ubuntu on it (dual-boot)?
[20:07] <ThinkT510> LmAt: of cource you can
[20:07] <LmAt> ThinkT510; Do I have to reinstall windows?
[20:07] <dell> what's going on now guys?
[20:07] <ThinkT510> LmAt: no
[20:07] <guntbert> ubuntu_: this channel is english only ---  " Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano"
[20:07] <LmAt> ThinkT510; I have to create a separate partition for Ubuntu, right?
[20:08] <geekbri> Dulak: I'm totally lost and still have no idea how to inject my function in there properly :)
[20:08] <ThinkT510> LmAt: yes
[20:08] <LmAt> ThinkT510; Can you give me  a link (or explain it to me)?
[20:08] <guntbert> dell: welcome to #ubuntu.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:08] <LmAt> guntbert; YES!!
[20:08] <ThinkT510> !install | LmAt
[20:08] <Dulak> geekbri: The page I pasted is my bashrc,  and line 114 is my PS1 prompt
[20:08] <dell> guntbert: nah I'm here to help, if I can that is
[20:09] <az1298az> I
[20:10] <geekbri> Dulak: Yeah, I saw that you are succesfully doing it, but I don't understand why it works for you and not for me
[20:10] <geekbri> Dulak: https://gist.github.com/2219539
[20:10] <Mango_Man> Hey guys, would anyone mind helping me with this broken package error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1947746
[20:10] <Mango_Man> I tried the suggestions from the replies
[20:11] <az1298az> Can I use rm -fr *.txt to remove all text files in my home catalog?
[20:11] <Dulak> geekbri: You need to wrap your escapes in \[ \] to tell bash they have no width on the prompt.  Notice how the colors on mine have those?
[20:11] <beandog> az1298az: no
[20:12] <beandog> az1298az: find /home/foo -type f -name '*.txt'
[20:12] <beandog> az1298az: and when youre sure thats what you want,
[20:12] <beandog> az1298az: find /home/foo -type f -name '*.txt' -delete
[20:12] <Dulak> geekbri: I just pushed the escapes to variable names to make the line shorter
[20:12] <geekbri> Dulak: ok I will try that, although even when I tried what I have without colors it still didnt work
[20:12] <Dulak> geekbri: You need \$()  not $() also
[20:13] <geekbri> Dulak: I see.  Why does it work when I put it at the front then?
[20:13] <az1298az> Hmm, I will have to read up more... thanks!
[20:13] <Dulak> geekbri: I am not sure why it works at the beginning of the line
[20:15] <Jeremy3D> anyone here ever use Kino ?
[20:15] <dell> Mango_Man: did you double check to see if the dependencies are being installed?
[20:15] <Dulak> geekbri: the prompt is way more black magic than it should be, took me a long time to get it just the way I wanted it.
[20:16] <trism> Mango_Man: can you pastebin: apt-cache policy libicu-dev libboost-regex1.46-dev
[20:16] <Mango_Man> dell trism sure thing
[20:19] <Mango_Man> trism: here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/jVSLF9WR
[20:20] <trism> Mango_Man: sorry I should have included libicu44 too, and you are sure you ran apt-get update? might be interesting to look at /etc/apt/sources.list too
[20:21] <trism> Mango_Man: there is a new version of icu in oneiric-security but it isn't listed in apt-cache policy
[20:21] <twig11> How would I start troubleshooting a freezing problem that is making my laptop almost unuseable in ubuntu 11.10? It acts like the computer is running out of Ram, but
[20:21] <Mango_Man> trism: i'm gonna run apt-get update again--i'll pastebin my sources.list
[20:21] <twig11> I've used System Monitor and it shows my RAM at 33-50% free. I'm not maxing out my 1.6 Ghz Core 2 Duo cpu either; it happens when I've only got Thunderbird, a few tabs in Chromium or Firefox
[20:21] <twig11> and maybe one or two other apps open. Loads that used to be no problem on this laptop even under 11.10 now completely stall it. Is that something that could come from a bad cpu interface with the heat sink?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> twig11: have you tested RAM health?
[20:22] <twig11> How do you do that?
[20:23] <fernandocueva> hello, I have a usb drive that loads as sdd1 whoever when I select eject it removes the filesystem but not the drive so my question is How to load the filesystem again I tried sudo mount -t fuseblk /dev/sdd1 /mnt/mitia/ but it didn't work
[20:24] <geekbri> Dulak: wrapping my colors in \[\] didnt work, it seems to do something really strange
[20:24] <cebaldocchi> eaeeee!!!
[20:25] <Mango_Man> trism: here's my sources.list file (http://pastebin.com/7HK0rdAN) and here's my apt-cache policy result (http://pastebin.com/SpY78Nsi)
[20:26] <Mango_Man> trism: i commented out some sources in the sources.list file, i don't think i need those
[20:26] <twig11> To whoever just replied to my question about a freezing computer, please reply again. I discovered as I started this chat.
[20:26] <twig11> that I was using a theme that doesn't display handles, making it absolutely useless in a multiperson chat room. Couldn't see who you were and had to change themes. sorry.
[20:26] <ServicesLuto> How do I delete a user account?
[20:27] <konartist> im using joli os 1.2, can i get help here
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> uderdel
[20:28] <twig11> What is a recommended way to test my RAM to see if it is the cause of my computer freezing
[20:28] <jenesaispas> hi there.
[20:28] <twig11> under light loads?
[20:28] <fernandocueva> anybody here uses startingpage
[20:28] <trism> Mango_Man: I see your problem, you must have had oneiric-security/oneiric-updates in the list at one time, updated libicu44, but then removed it later
[20:28] <ServicesLuto> Sudo userdel -r username don't works.
[20:28] <h4xx0r_> ok everyone
[20:28] <h4xx0r_> now tell me in yes or no
[20:28] <ServicesLuto> 'the user is logged in at the moment.'
[20:28] <copacetic> I used this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html    to try to install oracle-java on 12.04, it worked on my laptop but on my desktop im getting the following result http://pastebin.com/fScckWAW   is anyone having similar problems?
[20:28] <h4xx0r_> archlinux better than ubuntu or no?
[20:28] <gmachine_24> Hello. I just set up my first SSH connection on my network; even though I've used Ubuntu for years I'm proud of this. Anyway, when I want to log out from an ssh session do I need to give a special command?
[20:28] <yurt3829> twig11: memtest86, it's included on lots of live CDs
[20:28] <jenesaispas> how come usb disks are mounted right back after being unmounted by graphic interface? Any way to avoid that?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> ServicesLuto  http://www.basicconfig.com/linux/delete-user-account-using-linux-userdel-command
[20:29] <Mango_Man> trism: i'm pretty sure i've done that at some point. should i add something to my sources.list file?
[20:29] <gmachine_24> jenesaispas, sometimes I pick "eject"
[20:29] <dell> h4xx0r_: this is a support channel not a survey channel
[20:29] <trism> Mango_Man: easiest way to get it back is probably to run: software-properties-gtk; then on the updates tab check oneiric-updates and oneiric-security then rerun apt-get update
[20:29] <jenesaispas> jenesaispas, thanks
[20:29] <twig11> yurt3829: thanks, is it in the repository?
[20:29] <twig11> checking
[20:29] <konartist> how do i get the application reporosity to work if i get this error message:             E: Type 'dep' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:29] <meerkats> I just upgraded and now compiz effects are back to default, even the screen format has changed, is that normal?
[20:29] <jenesaispas> gmachine_24, thanks
[20:29] <meerkats> 3.0.17
[20:30] <jenesaispas> gmachine_24, so that's the normal behaviour?
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> alrite
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> anyways
[20:30] <Mango_Man> trism: got it, i'll try that
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> can someone here tell me how to install gnome 2 on ubuntu 11
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> ?
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> if its possible
[20:30] <gmachine_24> jenesaispas, no problem. It's annoying. I don't know if it's normal - it just seems to happen sometimes; others, not.
[20:30] <jenesaispas> ok
[20:30] <jenesaispas> thanks
[20:30] <gmachine_24> sure thing
[20:30] <gmachine_24> I assume it worked?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> h4xx0r_  gnome2 is "dead", gnome classic looks veery much like it, but it *is* gnome3
[20:31] <FernandoCueva> hello, I have a usb drive that loads as sdd1 whoever when I select eject it removes the filesystem but not the drive so my question is How to load the filesystem again I tried sudo mount -t fuseblk /dev/sdd1 /mnt/mitia/ but it didn't work
[20:31] <d0brii> hi
[20:32] <ServicesLuto> MonkeyDust, Don't works.
[20:32] <gmachine_24> FernandoCueva - I don't know. What about removing the drive and then plugging it back in. Very low tech.
[20:32] <h4xx0r_> @MonkeyDust, if im correct, i guess you are talking about the force fallback mode eh?
[20:32] <d0brii> anyone's unity getting progressively slower and slower after couple of weeks?
[20:32] <meerkats> i changed the size of unity icons (right panel) but the change has no effect
[20:32] <trism> konartist: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, it seems you may have a typo on line 3
[20:33] <ServicesLuto> MonkeyDust, 'the user is logged in at the moment.'
[20:33] <twig11> yurt3829: Can I run a memory test from the installed system?
[20:33] <Mango_Man> trism: it works now, thanks a bunch!
[20:33] <yurt3891> d0brii: No, because I wouldn't touch it with a very long pole
[20:33] <FernandoCueva> gmachine_24, I want to do it from the terminal without removing it
[20:33] <trism> Mango_Man: good to hear
[20:33] <yurt3891> twig11: memtest86 runs at boot up
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> ServicesLuto  use a live cd and then delete the user from there
[20:33] <arne_> \gnome-java
[20:33] <_Marcus|NotHereS> d0brii: I haven't noticed anything
[20:33] <d0brii> yurt3891: yeah though I upgrade ubuntu to 11.11 and it is impossible to remove unity
[20:34] <_Marcus|NotHereS> !nounity | d0brii
[20:34] <gmachine_24> FernandoCueva - so it's still listed as /dev/sdd1?
[20:34] <yurt3891> d0brii: You can boot into a different desktop environment so Unity doesn't get loaded at all. It's possible to remove the packages, just that the meta desktop package complains at you
[20:34] <cebaldocchi> alguem afim de trocar musicas?
[20:34] <h4xx0r_> what is a shell can someone here explain?
[20:35] <_Marcus|NotHereS> h4xx0r: It goes on top of the main program. Like an extension
[20:35] <d0brii> ubottu:  tnx
[20:35] <_Marcus|NotHereS> d0brii: Ubottu is a bot
[20:36] <d0brii> lol
[20:36] <FernandoCueva> gmachine_24, is listed as sdd but sdd1 is gone
[20:36] <konartist> @trism how do i use paste bin
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> !pt| cebaldocchi
[20:37] <gmachine_24> how about $sudo mount /media/drive_name
[20:37] <trism> !pastebin | konartist
[20:37] <meerkats> does unity experimetal have problems with 3.0.17?
[20:38] <maximilius> Hello. I accidently deleted an usb-stick during a WIN-partitioning. The tools gpart and TestDisk do not work for me. what can i do?
[20:38] <konartist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/902811/
[20:38] <twig11> yurt3891: thanks, I'll try it.
[20:39] <trism> konartist: yeah just a typo, and you don't actually need that many copies, so just delete lines 3-6 then rerun apt-get update
[20:40] <trism> konartist: after that software-properties-gtk or whatever you were using should be able to read it
[20:40] <gmachine_24> FernandoCueva - just in general I don't think you need the trailing "/" in /mnt/mitia/
[20:40] <konartist> it says the file is read only
[20:40] <konartist> how do i edit it
[20:40] <FernandoCueva> k
[20:40] <konartist> im looking at it in gedit
[20:41] <yurt3891> maximilius: In what way does gparted "not work"? Did you remove the file system partition on the USB Stick? I've recreated FAT32 partitions on them before with gparted
[20:41] <gmachine_24> konartist, open gedit with $sudo gedit filename
[20:41] <trism> konartist: you can use: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list; to edit it with root permissions
[20:41] <maximilius> yurt3891: i need partition recovery not creation
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> maximilius  did you erase the data on the usb stick? if yes, try scalpel or testdisk to recover the data
[20:41] <maximilius> the tool is call gpart not gparted
[20:42] <maximilius> MonkeyDust: TestDisk only offers to recover 1 older partition which is the wrong one, and after deep search i cant select either of both
[20:42] <gmachine_24> maximilius, sorry for coming in late...... you are wanting to pull data from a drive or actually restore that drive/partition?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> !info gpart
[20:42] <geekbri> Dulak, beandog: Figured out the problem.  I was injecting it between /[0 and /a which are the TITLE not the prompt.
[20:43] <maximilius> gmachine_24: i wish that i could pull the data off from it maybe with ddrescue?
[20:44] <gmachine_24> maximilus, I know there are posts/sites out there that will supposedly tell you how to rescue data using open source tools. I have read them and forgotten them more times than I can count. But if you do a search I know you will find at least some solutions; I can't guarantee that they work.
[20:45] <maximilius> yeah, i found lots of stuff that tells you how to manually edit the partition table but thats not what i can use
[20:45] <trism> konartist: if that is actually your /etc/apt/sources.list then you will probably want to run: gksudo software-properties-gtk; afterwards to enable some repos
[20:47] <yurt3891> maximilius: Have you tried with gentoo?
[20:47] <gmachine_24> maximilus, have you tried http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue and/or http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html?
[20:47] <konartist> thank you
[20:47] <maximilius> why would i try with gentoo?
[20:47] <gmachine_24> no ? on the url obviously
[20:47] <yurt3891> maximilius: SystemRescueCD is based on gentoo and has lots of disk recovery utilities
[20:49] <gmachine_24> maximilius, re: gentoo yurt is referring to a boot disk solution, not installing gentoo
[20:49] <gmachine_24> .............. I think
[20:50] <_Marcus|NotHereS> gmachine_24: He is saying that the operating system that the SystemRescueCD is based on is Gentoo
[20:50] <xananax> Hello
[20:50] <beandog> yay gentoo
[20:50] <_Marcus|NotHereS> Hi xananax
[20:50] <yurt3891> gmachine_24: Let us be serious... installing gentoo will not recover a deleted partition. Even the best OS can't work miracles
[20:50] <xananax> I have that USB that does not work (hangs on safely remove)
[20:50] <nes> gentoo = beast/
[20:51] <xananax> After trying a lot of things, I was able to make it work with sudo mount -o remount,async /dev/sda1
[20:51] <xananax> so basically mounting it in sync mode
[20:51] <maximilius> will try the DDRESCUE magic
[20:51] <gmachine_24> guys- I know I said you were talking about a boot disk based on gentoo.
[20:51] <xananax> Can I edit my fstab to add an entry for this usb and have it always mounted in sync?
[20:52] <DJ> xananax, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[20:52] <DJ> there it is,
[20:52] <gmachine_24> xananax - will it always be plugged in?
[20:52] <xananax> no, it's a usb thumb drive
[20:52] <DJ> xananax, then create a bash script to Mount it,
[20:52] <daftykins> then that's not gonna work
[20:52] <DJ> every time you'll eject it, and want to mount it back again...
[20:52] <gmachine_24> ask questions first, grasshopper. then give answers. :)
[20:52] <xananax> DJ: I would just enter the command every time, no prob, but it's an MP3 player that my mother has just bought
[20:53] <xananax> if I remove nautilus automatic mount
[20:53] <xananax> she's gonna have problems
[20:53] <DJ> xananax, just mount it with a bash script,
[20:53] <DJ> and you're good,
[20:53] <DJ> what are you trying to do xananax ?
[20:54] <gmachine_24> mount an mp3 player, I think
[20:54] <xananax> I am just trying to get this to work in a "normal" manner for my mother to prevent her from switching back to windows
[20:54] <xananax> she just bought an mp3 player
[20:54] <xananax> and it won't sync
[20:54] <DJ> xananax, install gtkpod,
[20:54] <gmachine_24> what kind of mp3 player
[20:54] <xananax> Basically a usb with a fat32 system
[20:55] <gmachine_24> xananax, what brand?
[20:55] <xananax> Intenso
[20:55] <xananax> Something unheard of
[20:55] <DJ> just install gtkpod, and you'll be good, with syncing if you want to put mp3s and such...
[20:55] <xananax> http://www.intenso.de/index_en.php
[20:55]  * DJ does not help any more.
[20:55] <xananax> DJ: the problem is not syncing with a playlist, rythmox works fine
[20:55] <yurt3891> I never understand why people force Linux on hapless relatives
[20:56] <xananax> yurt3891, because it is easier for me to maintain that windows
[20:56] <xananax> I am going to maintain anyway
[20:56] <DJ> just mount it,
[20:56] <DJ> nothing will happend,
[20:56] <DJ> *happen
[20:56] <yurt3891> xananax: Sounds like it, stuck on copying files to a music player ;)
[20:57] <xananax> yurt3891, that's a special case :) In one year I only had to intervene once and this time, when my mother had windows it was every week
[20:57] <nicofs> Is there any softphone that enables me to send/receive SMS and make phonecalls via my 3g modem?
[20:57] <gmachine_24> and which 3g modem is that?
[20:57] <DJ> nicofs, skype?
[20:57] <DJ> ;)
[20:58] <beandog> nicofs: google voice
[20:58] <beandog> well, for sms anyway
[20:58] <xananax> DJ: ok let me explain the use case: I plug the drive, it shows, I can move songs to it through nautilus or rhythmbox or anyway I want. On removing the drive, it stalls on "writing data to disk" then fails
[20:58] <xananax> Through command line, if I "sync" before "sudo eject", it also stalls
[20:58] <DJ> xananax, remember eject the device, every time you'll eject the device,
[20:58] <DJ> if not you'll break the device
[20:58] <nicofs> gmachine_24, "Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV F3307 Mobile Broadband Module"
[20:58] <xananax> DJ: It's *not* ejecting, this is my problem
[20:59] <lglcrtnd> I would love to open the packege management program, but it dosent. Anyhelp?
[20:59] <xananax> It refuses to eject
[20:59] <beandog> xananax: try umount -l
[20:59] <DJ> xananax, eject /dev/sdb1 or whatever the device is,
[20:59] <nicofs> DJ, skype is not possible...
[20:59] <DJ> nicofs, for calling it is,
[20:59] <Xintruder> is there a site I can get ubuntu as an image, quickly?
[20:59] <beandog> Xintruder: turnkey linux
[20:59] <xananax> beandog, DJ, it won't work if I "sync" before, and if I don't "sync" (I mean the command sync from command-line), the changes are not written to disk
[20:59] <xananax> it just stalls
[21:00] <Xintruder> beandog:  thx
[21:00] <nicofs> DJ, no, technically out - wrong processor architecture...
[21:00] <beandog> Xintruder: what is source and desintation again?
[21:00] <xananax> The only way I was able to make it work was to remount it with "sync" option (by default USBs are mounted async)
[21:00] <DJ> xananax, try umount
[21:00] <xananax> So I am looking for a way to change the default behaviour
[21:00] <DJ> the device
[21:00] <Xintruder> beandog: i don't understand what u mean
[21:01] <xananax> DJ: It doesn't work
[21:01] <beandog> Xintruder: what device are you copying from to
[21:01] <xananax> DJ: sudo umount does not work
[21:01] <DJ> any errors at all xananax ?
[21:01] <beandog> Xintruder: oh wait, wrong dude.
[21:01] <maximilius> the image i get from ddrescue - can i mount it later like a cdrom?
[21:01] <Xintruder> beandog: I'm not copying from, I want to download a ready configured virtual machine
[21:01] <beandog> Xintruder: right
[21:01] <DJ> xananax, are you putting the /device?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> maximilius: you can loop mount it like an ISO
[21:01] <DJ> on the umount?
[21:02] <ghostconn> for some reason i my max resolution is 1920x1200? I have a ati 4870 with a 24"led monitor lol...... also my cairo-dock has a black box around it.. I have the amd/ati drivers installed and they are active
[21:02] <maximilius> awesome
[21:02]  * maximilius dances around happily
[21:02] <nicofs> beandog, i want to put my SIM-card into my device and use it to make and receive calls...
[21:02] <beandog> Xintruder: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/core
[21:02] <beandog> nicofs: oh okay, can't help you there
[21:04] <nicofs> I know that wammu can send and receive SMS - I use it and it works... but i can't use it to make or receive calls. it doesn't even notify me if i miss any...
[21:04] <BobMarley> if my cpu is not supporting virtualization, then do i need to install the kvm in order to put the qemu to work? or to be able to make with qemu a ubuntu host system?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> maximilius: I'd look into a backup regime, kills the need for this sort of thing...
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  not all mobile phones support all the wammu functionalities, i use it too
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  http://wammu.eu/phones/
[21:06] <nicofs> MonkeyDust, I'm not talking about mobile phones - i want to turn my pc into one via the integrated 3g module...
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> ok
[21:07] <meerkats> what happened to my window configuration? I cannot see 12 files or folders in a row anymore: just 10 or 14...
[21:07] <daftykins> nicofs: not sure they're designed for that
[21:07] <sburwood1> How do I install / compile GIT for MTP for my tablet to connect to my ubuntu desktop?
[21:07] <meerkats> must be compiz related I believe
[21:07] <sburwood1> http://sourceforge.net/users/snirkel/
[21:08] <nicofs> I'm tired of constantly shifting my SIM card between phone and pc (mobile internet plan...) - when my pc can theoretically handle calls and my bluetooth headset couldn't care less which device it's connected to...
[21:09] <raydog45000> Where can I find NetWork Manager on Ubuntu Desktop 11.10?
[21:09] <Mike9863> For whatever reason icons are showing up in menus and on buttons. How can I disable this?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  wammu uses your phones functionalities, it is not a stand alone program
[21:10] <[Si]> nicofs: if it's 3g modem for a pc I've not found one with voice hardware in it
[21:10] <sburwood1> anyone wanna help?
[21:10] <nicofs> [Si], when my device was still running android, it could make calls...
[21:11] <[Si]> nicofs: sorry misunderstood it was a usb/minipci for pc type device.
[21:12] <maximilius> how do i get the data dump from ddrescue into the right format to burn it to a dvd?
[21:12] <daftykins> raydog45000: pretty sure network manager is always running to give you a network connection, what specifically are you wanting to do?
[21:13] <mithrop> sburwood1: what is your problem exactly ? really not sure I can help, but maybe asking you're question in another way can help somebody else to understand what is the issue.
[21:13] <raydog45000> My computer won't connect to the internet over the ethernet cable, the cable and internet work but when I look on ubuntu it says cable unplugged
[21:13] <gnuskool> hi, I can ping eth0 and eth1, but not my external router connected to eth0, what could be the issue?
[21:14] <raydog45000> How do I access the Network Manager GUI
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  cable or wifi?
[21:14] <[Si]> raydog45000 if you press the super key (windows/mac key on your keyboard) then type network connections that's network managers config
[21:14] <ghostconn> for some reason i cannot set my resolution to 1920x1080? the max I can get is 1920x1200
[21:15] <ghostconn>  for some reason i cannot set my resolution to 1920x1080? the max I can get is 1920x1200
[21:15] <[Si]> ghostconn: 1920x1080 is 16:9 lower res than 1920x1200 16:10 ratio
[21:15] <meerkats> can anyone tell me why there are no changes after setting the default icon size to 50%?
[21:15] <meerkats> for folders and files
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: try running:  nautilus -q   in an ALT+F2
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: may be:  nautilus -k
[21:16] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: ext router is adsl, eth0 is ect, eth1 internal and an AP attahed to dhcp on eth1. So all wireless clients get IPs and can ping 1 and 2 but not the router
[21:17] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, do updates work better if Insert the 11.10 usb stick while updating?
[21:18] <buhman> I have modified rc.local, and when I execute rc.local, it works just fine
[21:18] <buhman> but it doesn't seem to be being executed on boot
[21:18] <buhman> or during runlevel changes
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: if you add it as a source, possibly (assuming you are using Oneiric and the online versions are not later than the ones on the USB storage)
[21:19] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: sorry, not so clear - the wireless clients can ping eth0 and eth1, but not the router
[21:19] <Shinobi> If I have a hard link to a file are the two identical except for name? Or is the "link" different from the "file"?
[21:19] <leo-unglaub> hi, how can i disable the globalmenu in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> leo-unglaub: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support please
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  is the router also dhcp, does it provide ip addresses?
[21:20] <leo-unglaub> ActionParsnip: oh, sorry
[21:21] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, whats the difference runnig nautilus -q from ALT-F2 and from the terminal?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  with terminal you see what happens
[21:22] <gilmore> Shinobi: See:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-unixlinux-symbolic-soft-and-hard-links.html
[21:23] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: yes, on the 192.168.0 subnet - eth0 has a static ip on the same subnet and eth1 is on 192.168.1... subnet where it allocates IPs to wireless clients
[21:24] <maximilius> how do i get the data dump from ddrescue into the right format to burn it to a dvd?
[21:24] <gilmore> mkisofs
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  what's the outcome of dig? and of route? use pastebin to show the channel
[21:25] <gilmore> qman mkisofs
[21:25] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: problem is, though those clients get an ip with gateway address and can ping eth0, they cant ping the router on the same subnet
[21:25] <Shinobi> gilmore: thanks. Do you know if a files inode will change during the files lifetime. (Assuming I don't move it to another filesystem.)
[21:25] <[Si]> gnuskool does the router know how to route back?
[21:25] <silentz0r> does ubuntu patch the nvidia drivers?
[21:25] <silentz0r> proprietary ones.
[21:26] <daftykins> they don't touch them at all, as far as i understand
[21:26] <gilmore> Shinobi: It won't change unless you change it.
[21:26] <daftykins> they update the nouveau ones indirectly, though
[21:26] <Shinobi> Shinobi: Sweet. Thanks.
[21:26] <gnuskool> Si, dont think so - but Im not in front of it at the moment to check
[21:26] <Shinobi> gilmore: Sweet. Thanks.
[21:26] <[Si]> gnuskool: that's why it won't respond to ping it doesn't know how to get back to 192.168.1.0/24
[21:27] <silentz0r> do devs have access to the source of nvidia prop. drivers? If not, how would they patch it?
[21:27] <beandog> silentz0r: yah they are available for download
[21:27] <beandog> it's a mix been a proprietary module and a small build wrapper
[21:27] <gnuskool> Si, i put in a static route from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.0 subnet
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  isnt 192.168.1.1 the router's ip address?
[21:28] <[Si]> you need that both ways
[21:28] <silentz0r> beandog: so you reckon I shouldn't just download the nvidia drivers from nvidia's website and install them?
[21:28] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: Im not infront of it right now, but when I did that I got the router ip 192.168.0.1 eth1 and 192.168.0.0 eth0
[21:28] <beandog> silentz0r: no, I think that'd be fine
[21:29] <beandog> silentz0r: ideally you get it from ubuntu though
[21:29] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: no, 192.168.1.1 is the server address, it is behind a router
[21:29] <silentz0r> beandog: i'm using an old ubuntu, and I need the latest driver (295.33)
[21:29] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: it has 2 NICs
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  take note and check later: the commands dig and route
[21:30] <gilmore> gnuskool: 192.168.0.0 is not a valid IP
[21:30] <beandog> silentz0r: yah should work
[21:30] <maximilius> when i convert the data from ddrescue with mkisofs i receive one huge file but not access to the actual data
[21:30] <silentz0r> beandog: i'm basically asking, does the ubuntu dev team add anything that I would miss if i installed the driver from the website?
[21:30] <gnuskool> gilmore: I noticed that, but didnt know how to change it
[21:31] <gilmore> qsu -
[21:31] <gilmore> century
[21:31] <gilmore> ifconfig
[21:31] <beandog> silentz0r: dunno.
[21:31] <buhman> whenever I modify /etc/motd, it is modified when I log in again
[21:31] <buhman> what is causing this malicious behavior?
[21:31] <beandog> silentz0r: Either way, I'd uninstall it from your system
[21:31] <gilmore> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.0
[21:31] <beandog> silentz0r: uninstall the one already provided from ubuntu, and go from there
[21:31] <trism> buhman: /etc/motd is updated by the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[21:31] <silentz0r> beandog: problem is, my hardware cannot use opensource driver so i would have to do everything via commandline
[21:32] <trism> buhman: if you want to add a static tail to the end, add it to /etc/motd.tail
[21:32] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: any idea why route-n had 192.168..0.0 in there for eth0?
[21:32] <beandog> silentz0r: thats fine.  it comes with an installer
[21:32] <trism> buhman: likewise you can chmod -x the scripts in that directory that you would like to disable (and chmod +x them to reenable them)
[21:33] <[Si]> 192.168.0.0 would be the network address assuming a /24 (255.255.255.0 netmask)
[21:33] <buhman> trism: interesting
[21:34] <gnuskool> Si, thx
[21:35] <gnuskool> Si, so to get a reply from ping, I'd need to put in a static route between the subnets?
[21:36] <[Si]> gnuskool, for what you want to do you'll need the wireless clients to use ETH1s ip as their gateway, you need ip forwarding enabled on the linux box, and you need a route on the external router back to 192.168.1.0/24 via eth0s IP
[21:37] <bastidrazor> buhman: /etc/update-motd.d/ has the files you need to motify.
[21:37] <gilmore> ls
[21:37] <[Si]> the external router would also need to NAT the 192.168.1.0/24 out to the internet, if it can't do that then do the NAT on the linux box for it.
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  192.168.0.0 looks odd
[21:38] <[Si]> MonkeyDust: why, it's a network address
[21:39] <buhman> bastidrazor: indeed it does
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> [Si]  mm, it's the .0.0 i wonder about
[21:40] <[Si]> MonkeyDust: In a routing table it's normal, it's the network address
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> [Si]  thing is, i didnt know 0 is used for addresses
[21:41] <[Si]> MonkeyDust: it isn't used for a host (assuming a /24 netmaks)
[21:41] <gnuskool> Si, thanks - eth1 is currently gateway - will work on the other things you mentioned - thanks
[21:42] <[Si]> gnuskool: good luck :)
[21:43] <gnuskool> Si, btw, when you say NAT 192.168.1.0/24 to the internet, do you mean 'port forward' in router settings?
[21:44] <[Si]> no gnuskool you are using private addresses they can't be routed on the internet, so you need to get the router to do a "Hide NAT" or "Many to One NAT"
[21:44] <[Si]> normaly the router would do that for the local clients but you are adding another network so it needs to know to nat that too.
[21:44] <JC_SoCal> i am noticing that i don't have a /proc/bus/pci and cant access my pci card device
[21:45] <gnuskool> Si, thanks - I think thats what Ive been going round in circles about
[21:46] <JC_SoCal> also if i do an lspci i see my device
[21:49] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: do you have anything in /proc at all?
[21:49] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/902734/
[21:49] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: just usb
[21:49] <BobMarley> can somebody help me?
[21:49] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: sorry sorry -- in /proc yes -- lots of stuff ... in /proc/bus ... just usb
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> BobMarley  not every system supports KVM, iirc
[21:52] <acer> hi! anyone knows a way to forve cpu fan on in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:52] <acer> force*
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> BobMarley  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[21:52] <nes> you're cou fan isnt on?
[21:52] <nes> cpu*
[21:52] <acer> nope nes
[21:53] <acer> only sometimes
[21:53] <zykotick9> BobMarley: is ubuntu-test an image you created with qemu-img?
[21:53] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: what I've got so far is the impression that i need to map that directory to /dev something
[21:53] <acicula> acer there is fancontrol, but it sounds like your system is already managing the throtthling of the cpu fan
[21:54] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: is it in /sys/bus/pci ?
[21:54] <Aelingil> How do you uninstall a program you've compiled & put together (./configure | make | make install) in terminal?
[21:54] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: standby ....
[21:54] <zykotick9> BobMarley: FYI qemu if slow
[21:54] <acer> acicula I need a way to force it on
[21:54] <acer> always
[21:54] <[Si]> Aelingil: you have to hope they added a make uninstall
[21:54] <zykotick9> BobMarley: FYI qemu is slow (kvm appears isn't supported by your CPU, but is very fast)
[21:55] <[Si]> zykotick9: BobMarley did mention earlier he had not VT support in his cpu
[21:55] <Aelingil> [Si], and that should be in the original folder where the ./configure file is?
[21:55] <[Si]> Aelingil: yeah the same folder you ran make install in
[21:55] <zykotick9> [Si]: as the output states ;)  but thanks, i actually hadn't read any backlog for this
[21:56] <Aelingil> [Si], blah, thank you.. I was hopping it wouldnt be the case, i dont see it there. Time to reload the snapshot...
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Aelingil: try:  sudo make clean   in the same folder you compiled in, In futre I suggest you use checkinstall to make debs, makes life easier
[21:57] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: +1
[21:57] <BobMarley> zykotick9, yes ubuntu test is that
[21:57] <Aelingil> ActionParsnip, i was using a walkthrough and it showed a make test and that went through correctly. However later down the road there is an error and everything i've read has told me to re-install the program
[21:57] <zykotick9> BobMarley: but the output says "could not open disk image"
[21:58] <zykotick9> BobMarley: you need to use full path if you aren't in that directory
[21:59] <Aelingil> Luckly this is all for learning, so when we go to do it for real there are no mistakes.. :)
[21:59] <hayer> Can I install ubuntu11.10 alongside W7 to another disk? Like disk1: W7 and bootldr, disk2: ubuntu
[21:59] <BobMarley> yes my cpu is not supporting virtualization
[21:59] <zykotick9> BobMarley: also, probably best to add an extention to the image saying what it is raw,qcow,etc
[21:59] <[Si]> Aelingil: Aelingil next time use checkinstall instead of make install, this will allow you to use dpkg to remove the package
[21:59] <BobMarley> zykotick9,
[21:59] <BobMarley> yes i have added as being img
[22:00] <zykotick9> BobMarley: then you need to specify that in your command
[22:00] <Aelingil> [Si], rgr rgr. I'll put that in my notes. I should be back to this step in about 20 minutes :)
[22:00] <BobMarley> but how?
[22:00] <zykotick9> BobMarley: ".. -hda ubuntu-test.img .."
[22:01] <BobMarley> zykotick9, , but where i must put the iso file , which serves to install the guest system?
[22:01] <zykotick9> BobMarley: the iso is secondard to your HD image (which currently isn't found)
[22:02] <[Si]> BobMarley: virtualbox may be a little more friendly
[22:02] <zykotick9> BobMarley: but i think qemu and ubuntu is pretty close to a waste of time - it's gonna be deadly slow.
[22:02] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: yes it is there /sys/bus/pci/devices
[22:02] <zykotick9> [Si]: +1
[22:02] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: i assume i just ln or mount --bind?
[22:03] <BobMarley> ok, but i need to use qemu and kvm for the following thing:http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=Tasks/USB_Serial_Adapter_driver
[22:03] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: mount --bind I guess I guess some autofs/usbfs or somethign has over written
[22:03] <[Si]> i
[22:03] <BobMarley> given that i must install the following thing:
[22:03] <BobMarley> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=OVMF
[22:04] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: where should i put the mount --bind so that it is persistance after reboot
[22:04] <zykotick9> BobMarley: so use full paths then.  "qemu -hda /full/path/ubuntu-test.img -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu.iso .. -boot d"
[22:04] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: a hack would be to put it in /etc/rc.local
[22:05] <BobMarley> but, given that my cpu is not supporting virtualization, do i need to unninstal the kvm?
[22:05] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: i appricate it -- ill give this a try, thanks so much
[22:05] <zykotick9> BobMarley: don't know if it makes any difference or not?
[22:06] <BobMarley> where by default qemu has its virtual machines ?
[22:06] <zykotick9> BobMarley: no default, it's where you create/put them
[22:06] <BobMarley> how do i see it?
[22:06] <BobMarley> i had nothing configured
[22:07] <[Si]> BobMarley: virtualbox supports UEFI out of the box
[22:08] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:09] <BobMarley> carlos_28_Mad_,
[22:09] <BobMarley> carlos_28_Mad_,  ola
[22:09] <BobMarley> td bemk?
[22:09] <carlos_28_Mad_> dfd
[22:09] <BobMarley> bem*
[22:09] <carlos_28_Mad_> ols
[22:10] <BobMarley> Si, so can i do that project with virtualbox?
[22:10] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:10] <zykotick9> !es | carlos_28_Mad_
[22:11] <cuddylier> Hi
[22:11] <cuddylier> Why are all my commands for mysql saying "Access denied"?
[22:11] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:11] <carlos_28_Mad_> k tal
[22:11] <rbrooks> permissions
[22:11] <Xabster> cuddylier, cause it's denying you access either due to wrong pass, user or from wrong IP
[22:12] <zykotick9> !english | carlos_28_Mad_
[22:12] <carlos_28_Mad_> fddwf
[22:12] <[Si]> BobMarley, I'm not sure about that project but if you want to try get ubuntu to boot under uefi you could use virtualbox for that
[22:12] <rbrooks> ?
[22:12] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:13] <cuddylier> How do I start again to change the mysql password, Xabster ?
[22:13] <rbrooks> Madrid?
[22:13] <Xabster> cuddylier, go to a mysql website or channel or use google
[22:13] <Xabster> this is not a mysql help channel
[22:13] <cuddylier> I cant get on the mysql channel, I have googled for hours
[22:13] <cuddylier> And found absolutely no resolution
[22:14] <nes> you noob Xabster
[22:14] <cuddylier> I'm about to give up :(
[22:14] <nes> :D
[22:14] <rbrooks> mysql is crap
[22:14] <Xabster> :(
[22:14] <rbrooks> use pg
[22:14] <Xabster> cuddylier, what did you google?
[22:14] <idlemind> my google fu is better than yours
[22:14] <idlemind> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[22:14] <carlos_28_Mad_> djh
[22:14] <Xabster> cause I just tried and first hit was a success
[22:14] <carlos_28_Mad_> fj
[22:14] <cuddylier> I googled my error and also tutorals on how to set up mysql
[22:14] <nes> slackware 13.37 rapes
[22:14] <rbrooks> yea rly feeling lucky could have found taht
[22:14] <nes> i like very much
[22:14] <nes> howmuch?
[22:15] <bastidrazor> cuddylier: if you would register you could get in the mysql channel. you refuse to do so.
[22:15] <rbrooks> it sounds leet
[22:15] <Xabster> you noob, nes!
[22:15] <cuddylier> I did earlier
[22:15] <cuddylier> I tried /register
[22:15] <nes> :D
[22:15] <cuddylier> I also registered by user name, cuddylier
[22:15] <cuddylier> On freenode
[22:15] <cuddylier> Still couldnt get in the channel
[22:15] <idlemind> guide on how to setup mysql: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/mysql.html
[22:15] <Xabster> yeah, and did you then login, cuddylier ?
[22:15] <Xabster> like it tells you to
[22:15] <cuddylier> What was the command for that, I probably did
[22:20] <BobMarley> i get the following errors when using some UI
[22:20] <BobMarley> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/69338658/1/tt?h=842232
[22:21] <BobMarley> the latest oe is for aqemu
[22:21] <BobMarley> the black one
[22:23] <nickrud> quiet in here
[22:23] <BobMarley> nickrud,  no i have some questions
[22:26] <nickrud> qemu isn't something I've used in a few years so I'm not the one to ask. Just noticing that the scroll rate is readable
[22:31] <acicula> BobMarley: what are you having trouble with?
[22:32] <BobMarley> acicula, in installing ubuntu ghost with qemu
[22:32] <camsex34m-> slm
[22:32] <AminosAmigos> this channel if flooded with "joins and quits !
[22:32] <AminosAmigos> camsex34m-@  slm
[22:33] <zykotick9> AminosAmigos: so disable joins/quite in your client!?
[22:33] <BobMarley> acicula,  but i have istalled the aqemu ui and it seems that i can run an iso and install hte ghost, at this time it is running the instalatio
[22:34] <nintet> the guys at CentOS are really crabbu
[22:34] <nintet> crabby
[22:34] <nintet> i need help configuring a local user for vsFTP
[22:34] <nintet> what is a "jailed" user?
[22:35] <brandon2010> ok i need help i have 2 computers one running backtrack and the other running av linux i have a wireless adapter on backtrack for internet and want to setup a network so the other one will connect to the internet without a router is this possible???
[22:36] <zykotick9> !backtrack | brandon2010
[22:36] <ikonia> brandon2010: not really something #ubuntu deals with , try #backtrack-linux
[22:36] <brandon2010> ok ty
[22:36] <Dj_FlyBy> so I changed the power settings so that the hard disks and monitor never shut off/spin down ... but the PC continues to do so anyways..... any siggestions please?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> brandon2010: you should ask in #backtrack-linux   setting up a backtrack box as a router isn't too smart
[22:36] <Dj_FlyBy> suggestions**
[22:37] <notjoe> I have an interesting problem. I run a script on a remote server which spits out a lot of text fast. If i run it via a terminal on my laptop its find and my laptop is still very responsive. If I run it from my desktop its my whole system becomes laggy
[22:37] <anthropos> anyone know how to make a bootable windows live CD from ubuntu (I have a legit iso of windows 7)
[22:37] <notjoe> find=fine
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> anthropos: use unetbootin
[22:38] <anthropos> I don't want to install windows, I just want to make some kind of rescue environment where I can install firmware and such
[22:38] <maximilius> how can i tell "dd" to start writing the data to the "of=" after 100MB and not directly after, please?
[22:38] <anthropos> maximilius: i believe there is a skip option
[22:38] <maximilius> skip and seek
[22:38] <acicula> BobMarley: ah so its working then?
[22:39] <maximilius> cant decide which one, hmmm
[22:39] <f3ck4r> hi minna!
[22:39] <AreS`> /join #android-fr
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> anthropos: you can use bartpe + the ISO to make a live windows USB, if you just want to copy files, you can do that from Ubuntu  or Ubuntu liveCD
[22:42] <Dj_FlyBy> so I changed the power settings so that the hard disks and monitor never shut off/spin down ... but the PC continues to do so anyways..... any suggestions please?
[22:42] <anthropos> i just saw that on wiki, but ideally it would be something that supports win7 (bartpe supposedly only works with xp)
[22:42] <anthropos> I need to install somefirmware that is only available as a .exe and I don't have windows on my computer
[22:43] <f3ck4r> Dj_FlyBy: caffeine
[22:43] <BobMarley> acicula,  yes but it is very slow
[22:43] <notjoe> anthropos, make a dos boot disk
[22:43] <notjoe> there are plenty of 'live' cds just for that purpose
[22:43] <anthropos> I think it has a graphical frontend, but if not, then yeah that would be a good idea
[22:43] <anthropos> I can give it a shot
[22:44] <notjoe> worth a shot
[22:44] <anthropos> I just want to avoid flashing the firmware improperly...
[22:44] <gumus> hi all
[22:45] <gumus> which command should I use to compile C file including "math.h" ?
[22:46] <gumus> does anyone know how can I compile a c file including <mat.h> library
[22:46] <f3ck4r> include math.h
[22:47] <f3ck4r> volteiz
[22:47] <f3ck4r> lol
[22:48] <wolfmitchell> For some reason all the colors on open windows only inverted, and restarting the windows doesn't fix it.
[22:48] <wolfmitchell> Any help?
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[22:52] <acicula> BobMarley: depending on your hardware that might not be uncommon
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[22:53] <acicula> BobMarley: is the install progressing or hanging?
[22:54] <wolfmitchell> Nvm about my problem...It seems when he left, the color fixed......
[22:54] <BobMarley> acicula, it is more hanging
[22:56] <acicula> BobMarley: doing the text based install? not having virtualization extensions doesnt help with speed but it should be working nonetheless
[22:56] <acicula> unless its really something archaic/low memory?
[22:58] <Dj_FlyBy> f3ck4r: that would be interesting except it is based around apps that have power saving inhibition issues. In my case I would have to add every single app installed to my PC as this happens no matter what I am doing. I thought there was something I could do inside my bios or Ubuntu settings or something to prevent this.
[22:59] <MrChrisDruif> acicula; how's it going?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> acicula: installing in text mode makes it faster :)
[22:59] <sunya> hi. a few days ago I installed ffmpeg, and IIRC a few packages related to audio/video were replaced, but I don't remember which. Ever since both VLC and Totem have lots of problems seeking through an h264/mp4 file, leaving the audio and video completely out of sync, skipping frames, etc..  how can I undo what installing ffmpeg did? simply removing ffmpeg doesn't undo the replacement.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> acicula: as in, the install process
[22:59] <acicula> ActionParsnip: thats why im asking him if he's doing that
[22:59] <f3ck4r> Dj_FlyBy: just add a program like a "terminal" which you have open anyway D;
[23:02] <anonymous_Umbrel> Hello www.anonymousdobrasil.blogspot.com
[23:04] <bastidrazor> anonymous_Umbrel: really? that site is bad.
[23:04] <f3ck4r> sunya: mplayer is the best player out there
[23:04] <zykotick9> f3ck4r: +1
[23:04] <shade34321> I'm using psh to test several nodes to see if a user can log onto them...what's a simple command I can use to execute, just need to makes ure he can access everything
[23:05] <acicula> whoami
[23:05] <sunya> f3ck4r: the problem isn't the player, it's the underlying libraries.
[23:06] <f3ck4r> just download them all
[23:06] <shade34321> acicula, good call
[23:06] <sunya> f3ck4r: I don't know what they are called.
[23:06] <Dj_FlyBy> sunya: have you tried removing and reinstalling vlc
[23:07] <_Marcus> bastidrazor: What is that site?
[23:07] <f3ck4r> sunya: take a look --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[23:07] <f3ck4r> this may solve your problem.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> sunya: also try deleting the folder ~/.config/vlc    so you get vanilla settings
[23:08] <sunya> I'll try your suggestions, thanks.
[23:08] <bastidrazor> _Marcus: it is sillyness. avoid it
[23:09] <squibby> holy crap this channel is large. lol.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> squibby: its the official channel for the fastest growing Linux distro, so yes :D
[23:11] <ofca> hello everyone!
[23:11] <log> Hello ofca.
[23:11] <ofca> my 1st time in irssi
[23:11] <BobMarley> ofca,   We're not very helloish around here, but  hello anyway.
[23:11] <ofca> this is the place to ask noobish ubuntu questions?
[23:12] <log> ofca: Yep. :-)
[23:12] <nickrud> always has been, probably always will
[23:12] <f3ck4r> sunya: regarding mplayer -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:motumedia/mplayer-daily
[23:13] <ofca> fuck yea. expect noob bombing from my side :)
[23:13] <pangolin> !language | ofca
[23:13] <ofca> uh oh, pardon moa
[23:13] <pangolin> you mean moi and you're pardoned
[23:14] <ofca> pangolin: :)
[23:15] <ofca> any other irc chanels for rails or vim?
[23:15] <nickrud> I've forgotten, what's the syntax to get private answers from ubottu?
[23:15] <Dulak> ofca: #vim
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> nickrud: !factoid > yournick
[23:16] <nickrud> thanks
[23:16] <pangolin> nickrud, /msg ubottu !factoid
[23:16] <ofca> Dulak: on wich / connect?
[23:17] <pangolin> ofca, /join #vim
[23:17] <pangolin> to join a channel
[23:17] <cincinnatus> Does Ubuntu have a bootloader configuration tool?
[23:17] <cincinnatus> I tried StartUp-Manager, but it can't even parse the default config
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> cincinnatus: you can edit the configs, what is it you wan to achieve?
[23:22] <pier_> ubuntu.it? sorry?
[23:24] <log> !it | pier_
[23:26] <omesso>  irc.tiscali.it
[23:38] <VikingIV> Hello all
[23:38] <Salinas-MG> application of network signal wirelless
[23:39] <Salinas-MG> I need a graphics application for viewing wireless network
[23:39] <Salinas-MG> status...
[23:39] <VikingIV> If i'd like to migrate my installation of Ubuntu 10.04 to a newer machine, would I have serious issues if I tried mirroring it to the new machine's drive?
[23:39] <VikingIV> or is it necessary for a fresh installation?
[23:40] <Salinas-MG> Hello VikingIV .. help me
[23:40] <Dulak> VikingIV: it would probably be easier and faster to install fresh on the new machine and just mirror /home over across the network.
[23:41] <VikingIV> Dulak, okay thanks. I didn't know how well it would recognize new hardware from an old installation. I guess I'll have to migrate my package profile as well?
[23:41] <VikingIV> I'd like all of my applications to remain.
[23:41] <bastidrazor> !clone
[23:42] <warrior_> ehi
[23:43] <Dulak> VikingIV: you can get a list of installed packages and feed the list to the new machine to make that rather painless
[23:43] <Dulak> Ahh crap, he left.
[23:43] <warrior_> wubi 64 or 32 bit?
[23:44] <_r00t_> anyone know if I can do-release-upgrade from 10.10 -> 12.04 ?
[23:44] <bastidrazor> _r00t_: directly no. you'll have to go 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[23:44] <techboy> hmm
[23:45] <_r00t_> bastidrazor: :(((((((((((((...........
[23:45] <techboy> can anyone recommend me a video editor that allows you to put pictures/videos on top of clips and has subtitle support?
[23:45] <warrior_> FloodBot1
[23:46] <bastidrazor> warrior_: state an actual question and you may get an answer if someone knows it.
[23:46] <_r00t_> bastidrazor: I did manage to go from 11.10 beta to 12.04 beta - I guess that was a simple step up
[23:47] <raydog45000> I just recently set lamp up on my ubuntu desktop and am trying to convert it to pure server, I can access it via ssh on mylocal host, does anyone know a good guide to make it accessible from the net or know how?
[23:47] <bastidrazor> _r00t_: okay.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> techboy: pitivi maybe...?
[23:49] <hasaan> hi
[23:49] <_r00t_> hmmmmm I wonder what happens if I try do-release-upgrade -p
[23:49] <camsex34m-> heloooooooooooooooooo
[23:50] <maximilius> what is the problem with these vboxusers/groups with virtualbox and usb devices?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> maximilius: you need the closed source vbox if you want usb access
[23:50] <hasaan> can't open synaptic package manager. it shows...an error occured, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:50] <hasaan> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.''
[23:50] <Dulak> maximilius: They gyp you on usb with the OSE version of vbox
[23:50] <maximilius> ActionParsnip: hmph
[23:50] <Helsinkiii> hi
[23:51] <bastidrazor> hasaan: did you run the command it suggested?
[23:51] <Helsinkiii> does Tor automatically make you an exit node when you install it?
[23:52] <f3ck4r> Helsinkiii: nope
[23:52] <Helsinkiii> f3ck4r, oh, ok
[23:52] <Helsinkiii> f3ck4r, thanks
[23:52] <camsex34m-> heloooooooooooooooooo
[23:52] <Helsinkiii> exit
[23:52] <hasaan> ok, i got it.................
[23:52] <Dulak> Helsinkiii: you are a bridge node by default iirc
[23:52] <hasaan> thanks
[23:52] <_r00t_> lol : wassip camsex34m-
[23:53] <abdelrhman> one here work in voip ?
[23:53] <abdelrhman> sip
[23:55] <anthropos> tor does not make you an exit node nor a bridge by default
[23:55] <mdel> hey all -- what would be the best way to connect to a remote server and modify code using a GUI editor
[23:55] <mdel> SFTP?
[23:56] <mdel> a more pointed question - is SFTP or NFS better suited for remote editing of files
[23:56] <_r00t_> mdel: what is your client OS ?
[23:56] <f3ck4r> anthropos: he is already gone. i think he don't understand the concept of exit node or a bridge / relay
[23:56] <Dulak> mdel: lan or wan?
[23:56] <mdel> _r00t_: ubuntu, wan
[23:56] <anthropos> he probably understands that he doesn't want to be an exit node, though :)
[23:57] <mdel> sftp works fine (im using sublime text 2, btw)
[23:57] <Dulak> mdel: sftp then, nfs is a lan thing
[23:57] <mdel> Dulak: that's what I thought, but I was lead to believe otherwise
[23:57] <anthropos> sftp makes way more sense
[23:57] <anthropos> for a wide variety of reasons
[23:57] <f3ck4r> anthropos: yeah
[23:57] <_r00t_> mdel: ssh -Y remotehost  ...... on the remote host run kate or something and the windows will tunnel back to your client
[23:58] <Dulak> mdel: Oh you could do nfs, but it would be nearly unusable due to the latency.
[23:58] <f3ck4r> i do when it need (bridge)
[23:58] <_r00t_> mdel: it might be a little slow on WAN but is perfect on a LAN