[01:22] <ScottL> ochosi, i searched in the xubuntu-default-settings and xubuntu-artwork packages (well, grep'd) and only found the distributor-logo.svg in the elementary theme directory
[01:22] <ScottL> i'm guessing i'm going to have to figure out how to do some vodoo about replacing these (or renaming these) so the ubiquity partman.py will work
[01:28] <pleia2> knome: looks good :)
[02:53] <Unit193> knome: /usr/share/irssi/scripts/topic-diff.pl or I can upload it.
[05:04] <knome> Unit193, hmmh, yeah, that's not optimal, but tbh, i don't know what i was expecting :D
[05:04] <knome> Unit193, it probably works just like i want :)
[05:04] <Unit193> Note, it's still a bit funky at times, but better than nothing.
[05:05] <knome> yeah, thanks for the tip
[05:05]  * knome didn't succeed well at sleeping
[05:05] <knome> hit the bed 4 hours ago, but i've probably slept no more than 3 hours max
[05:07] <knome> pleia2, oh damn, forgot to ask you... could you take care of changing the logo in g+?
[06:10] <knome> anybody here with a wikipedia account?
[06:17] <benonsoftware> knome: Yes?
[06:17] <knome> benonsoftware, can you do us a favour and replace the xubuntu logos in wikipedia, i will provide you the files
[06:18] <benonsoftware> Yeah
[06:18] <knome> k, just a sec, i'll upload
[06:18] <knome> the logos to be replaced are:
[06:19] <knome> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xubuntu_Logo.svg
[06:19] <knome> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xubuntu_Logo2.svg
[06:19] <knome> the files to replace with are:
[06:19] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_wikipedia/
[06:19] <knome> benonsoftware, thanks!
[06:19] <benonsoftware> knome: No problem
[06:21] <benonsoftware> Hmm, do I upload a commletly new one, as I'm not sure how do edit the old ones
[06:21] <knome> ummh, i can look at it
[06:22] <knome> i mean - i have an account for a client, but don't want to use it to do this ;)
[06:23] <knome> benonsoftware, below the file history, there's a link saying "upload a new version of this file"
[06:24] <benonsoftware> knome: Ah, yes sorry
[06:24] <benonsoftware> I'll do it right now
[06:24] <knome> benonsoftware, for the "File changes" field in that page, you can use just "New official logo"
[06:24] <benonsoftware> Okies
[06:24] <knome> thanks!
[06:24] <benonsoftware> No problem
[06:27] <benonsoftware> knome: Done
[06:28] <knome> benonsoftware, thanks!
[06:28] <benonsoftware> No worries
[06:28] <knome> hmmh, i wonder when the wikipedia pages are updated
[06:28] <knome> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
[06:29] <knome> the logo is a "bit" stretched ;))
[06:29] <knome> fixed that with committing an empty update to the page
[06:30] <knome> but the problem will still exist in the other language versions
[06:30] <knome> hmm. looks like that didn't even save a revision in the history \o/
[06:32]  * knome goes "updating" all the pages
[06:35] <Unit193> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xubuntu810.png That's a bit odd of a menu button.
[06:35] <knome> mmh :)
[06:37] <knome> k, all the language versions are update
[06:37] <knome> s
[06:37] <knome> d
[06:37] <knome> :P
[07:08]  * knome is off
[07:08] <knome> see you all later
[07:09]  * benonsoftware waves bye to knome 
[07:36] <xumumu> hello
[08:30] <ochosi> if there's anyone with a precise install up for a little testing please ping me
[08:49] <mr_pouit> ScottL: micahg: I think the latest ubuntu-studio-default-settings upload is missing conffile handling (afaik your menu file is a conffile, so you're missing the maintscript stuff to move it)
[08:50] <mr_pouit> (just from a quick look, I can be wrong ;-)
[11:44] <ScottL> mr_pouit, hmmm, interesting
[11:45] <ScottL> mr_pouit, i thought the menu under the /xdg-ubuntustudio directory gets copied to the computer and the system knows to use one of these directories when existing....
[11:46] <ScottL> oh, i think i may see my issue, what if say you installed kde or lubuntu and they put _their_ menu out there too, then which menu gets used
[11:47] <ScottL> there would be several /xdg-* directories and lots of menus
[11:47] <ScottL> tonight i'll dig through how xubuntu does it and fix it
[11:49] <mr_pouit> (I'm only speaking about the packaging: /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/foo.menu was renamed to /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/xfce-foo.menu, it's a conffile, and i couldn't find any maintscript in there, so the old file won't be deleted, and if the admin made changes to it, they won't be kept by the rename)
[11:49] <mr_pouit> garcon will choose a menu file depending on XDG_MENU_PREFIX and other env vars
[12:04] <ScottL> mr_pouit, it would seem that you are speaking of when someone "updates" or installs "ubuntustudio-default-settings" on an existing non-US system?
[12:04]  * ScottL admits that he had not considered these use cases, just the initial install
[12:06] <mr_pouit> I'm speaking about http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling#Moving_a_conffile
[12:09] <ScottL> ah, yes, i remember seeing the maintainer script in the xubuntu packages, i will read this in more depth later today and hopefully implement it tonight
[12:09]  * ScottL is getting himself and the kids ready for the day and is about to leave
[12:29] <ScottL> i am about to walk out the door for the day but i wanted to say thank you mr_pouit for point this out, i really do appreciate the help :)
[13:42] <ochosi> for everyone's reference, i just submitted a bugreport about abiword's broken ruler-colors upstream (after discussing with the devs in their irc chan about it): http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13301
[14:00] <pleia2> knome: http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/logo-icon-large.png and -small are very similar, could we have a larger large?
[14:00] <pleia2> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oJV4dNJAPw4/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAOc/nKLwauMl8is/s200-c-k/photo.jpg is the one we currently use for g+
[14:52] <micahg> mr_pouit: scott-work: nice catch, thanks, I'll fix this a little later
[15:00] <scott-work> micahg:  thank you very much, i'm sure you will do a much more effective and proficient job than i would :-)
[15:15] <micahg> astraljava: can you test the onboard fix if I upload to my PPA?
[15:19] <micahg> astraljava: sorry, thought you reported the bug
[15:19] <micahg> anyone available to test the onboard fix?
[15:30] <micahg> can someone please test bug 963216 for onboard with the package from ppa:micahg/ppa and let #ubuntu-release know if the onboard fix works?  you must *not* have mousetweaks installed
[15:30]  * micahg has to run
[17:08] <astraljava> micahg: I can, when I get home, which is in about 3-4 hours from now.
[17:08] <astraljava> knome: others: Are we interested in new images due to kernel and update-manager updates?
[18:12] <ochosi> quick feedback about abiword: the rulers probably won't be fixed in abiword itself but in gtk3.4
[18:13] <ochosi> the gtk3 version with gtk3.2 works just fine
[18:13] <ochosi> so the abiword-devs don't want to waste time looking into that (and i have to say i kinda see their point)
[18:13] <ochosi> at least not until gtk3.4 is out and in debian
[18:13] <ochosi> so we'll have to live with what we got
[18:14] <ochosi> bbl
[20:50] <astraljava> knome: ochosi: mr_pouit: If no one wants to have images respinned, I'll mention this on -release soon-ish.
[21:12] <micahg> mr_pouit: doesn't debhelper handle conf file changes automagically now?
[21:34] <micahg> astraljava: you can check onboard with the archive version as it was accepted already
[21:35] <astraljava> micahg: Sure thing.
[21:35] <astraljava> Syncing the image now.
[21:40] <micahg> mr_pouit: you're right, it's not reaped properly...will fix 
[21:42] <ochosi> astraljava: what do you mean exactly by respinning the images?
[21:50] <astraljava> ochosi: There were major updates to kernel and update-manager. -release wanted to know whether we're interested about them being added to Xubuntu Beta-2 images. But then the onboard fix calls for a respin anyway, and apparently there were other grave bugs that were fixed, and Kate rather adamantly persuaded for a respin after all. :)
[21:50] <astraljava> ochosi: So, in a nut-shell, there'll be new ISOs in the tracker shortly.
[21:50] <ochosi> oh, cool
[21:50] <ochosi> thanks!
[21:51] <ochosi> i guess i'll be seeing/testing that in my real-install of precise soonish anyway
[21:51] <astraljava> No worries. :) I'll test the onboard fix soon, installing from a synced image currently.
[21:51] <ochosi> ah, k
[21:51] <ochosi> what exactly wasn't working with onboard?
[21:51] <ochosi> last time i tested it everything worked perfectly fine
[21:54] <astraljava> ochosi: onboard (0.97.0-0ubuntu3) precise; urgency=low
[21:54] <astraljava>   * Fix string encodings mismatch without mousetweaks; This fixes an issue
[21:54] <astraljava>     where onboard fails to launch on Xubuntu which doesn't have mousetweaks
[21:54] <astraljava>     installed by default (LP: #958385)
[21:54] <ochosi> oh
[21:54] <ochosi> what are mousetweaks? :)
[21:55] <astraljava> Don't ask me, I just work here.™
[21:55] <ochosi> hehe
[21:56]  * ochosi asks himself where the "tm" is on is keyboard
[21:56] <astraljava> ctrl+u, 2122+<space>
[21:56] <astraljava> Wait, shift+ctrl+u.
[21:57] <ochosi> astraljava rocks.™
[21:57] <ochosi> i admire you for knowing that by heart :)
[21:57] <astraljava> ...to Ayreon.
[21:57] <ochosi> you must be using this a lot
[21:58] <astraljava> Sometimes. There are some cool unicodes that I sometimes throw in for spicing things up. I'm a weirdo, like that, too.
[21:58] <Unit193> Yes, yes he is.
[21:58] <ochosi> sounds good :)
[21:58] <ochosi> hehe
[21:58] <ochosi> btw, do any of you two have a precise testing-box?
[21:59] <Unit193> Real? No. ;/
[21:59] <Unit193> Vbox.....
[21:59] <ochosi> that's fine too
[21:59] <ochosi> i updated bluebird's gtk3 theme yesterday
[21:59] <ochosi> and it'd be great if others could test it as well
[21:59] <ochosi> otherwise i might be overlooking things
[22:00] <Unit193> Sweetness! (I've not been able to get at that vbox, but that's on it for sure now)
[22:00] <ochosi> :)
[22:00] <ochosi> it's in github (github.com/shimmerproject/Bluebird)
[22:00] <ochosi> would be great if you could give me some feedback
[22:01] <astraljava> ochosi: I can test it tomorrow, I'll hit the hay immediately once I get the onboard fix verified.
[22:01] <ochosi> i know it's far from perfect, i only had one afternoon to rebase it on greybird and port the most obvious portions of it
[22:01] <ochosi> astraljava: sure, anytime is great!
[22:07] <ochosi> k, off to bed
[22:07] <ochosi> see y'all
[22:15] <astraljava> micahg: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/onboard-precise.png
[22:15] <micahg> astraljava: do you have mousetweaks installed?
[22:15] <micahg> ah, you got it all there :)
[22:15] <astraljava> micahg: Yep. :)
[22:16] <micahg> astraljava: excellent, please notify -release that we're good for a respin at their leisure
[22:16] <astraljava> micahg: I will. Thanks a bunch!
[22:16] <micahg> astraljava: thanks