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Riddellnew builds today to test!07:30
Riddellhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/210/builds07:31
Riddellapachelogger: I still haven't seen an e-mail from you, only afiestas 07:37
afiestasoh that remembers to me that I got a bug to report07:37
afiestasRiddell: can you point me to the exact page toreport bugs for kontact/kdepim ? 07:37
afiestasyesterday I look for it for 20min :s07:38
Riddellapachelogger: oh wait, if I bother to look for it I do find your e-mail07:38
Riddellafiestas: upstream it's bugs.kde.org downstream bugs to launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim and click "report bug"07:38
afiestasit is really confusing that I can't get to that page from: https://bugs.launchpad.net/07:39
Riddellyou can click on a link on that page for "Ubuntu" then click on "Report a bug"07:40
Riddellbut yes it's not as easy as it should be, report a bug :)07:40
Riddellhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug07:40
Riddelllaunchpad are without designers just now though so I don't see it getting fixed07:40
* afiestas is trying to reproduce the bug07:45
* afiestas did reproduce the bug07:45
Riddellblame upstream!07:45
afiestasnot sure it is upstream bug07:46
afiestashaven't seen this one on my self compiled kde07:46
afiestashttp://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/28/plasma-windowedT19331.png07:48
afiestasthose notifications are the welcome comite when you poen kontact for the first time xD07:48
afiestasfirst. folder .local/share/contacts does not exists and the folder contacts is not created07:50
afiestaswe should include that in the skel? (in the case that a skel is still used?)07:51
georgelappieshi all, I am getting frequent crashes to a black or red screen where I have to hold the power button in to reboot the laptop on 12.04 is this a known issue for now? This didn't happen at all with 11.1007:51
Riddellnot known to me08:00
Riddellsounds like a linux/X issue08:00
starbuckare you talking about the maildir error here: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/28/plasma-windowedT19331.png ?08:10
afiestasstarbuck: I'm talking about all warnings but the first one which is not kdepim related08:10
starbuckah okay08:11
afiestasfirst one I have debug is the one with "Personal Contacts:" as a title08:11
afiestasThe two with "KMail" as a tittle seem to me like a bug in the email_resource, I have been having those warnings playing with WebAccounts08:12
afiestasRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/966913 08:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966913 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Akonadi contact resource wrong defaults" [Undecided,New]08:12
afiestasnot sure where the folder should be created08:13
Riddellafiestas: thanks tagged08:18
afiestasthe ones with KMail in the tittle seem fixed in master08:19
afiestasRiddell: we will be able to ship with 4.8.2 ? or should I ask for a backport?08:19
Riddellafiestas: I expect to do 4.8.2 yes08:20
Riddellshould be a job for tomorrow that with any luck08:20
afiestasoks 08:21
afiestasI will ask kdepim just in case the patch didn't made it to 4.8.208:21
afiestas(a few days ago I had this same warning in master)08:21
* afiestas is now trying to hunt the last warning08:21
afiestasthe Local Folders thing is the same bug, .local/share/local-mail must be created08:28
Riddellanyone get bug 966948 ?09:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966948 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop freezes on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96694809:12
afiestasRiddell:  works great for me, do you have any extra plasmoid?10:04
Riddellafiestas: nope10:07
Riddellbut I must have something in my set up that causes it10:07
Riddellneeds time to track down though!10:08
* Riddell goes back to iso testing10:08
afiestasRiddell:  can you send me (or attach in the bug) your plasma config?10:11
afiestasI can try to reproduce the bug10:11
afiestasbe careful though it may contain private data such plasmoisd wtih text and that kind of stuff10:11
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apacheloggerRiddell: why surely I must be in your spam filter :)11:48
apacheloggerafiestas: btw, your battery is broken :P11:50
afiestasapachelogger: that's why I have 2 of them, one for traveling and the broken one for daily use11:51
apacheloggerOo11:52
apacheloggerif you had two working ones you could travel while daily using it :P11:53
apacheloggerwhich reminds me that the one of me netbook is also rather kaput11:53
apolisn't there qt-recordMyDesktop for kubuntu? :P11:56
* apol always uses it in arch...11:56
apolhad to use the gtk- version11:56
apacheloggerapol: use ffmpeg :P12:04
* apachelogger once looked at the qt-recordmydesktop code and deemed it not worth the effort to package12:05
apacheloggerpackaging the python was quite the hassle back then ^^12:05
apol8-)12:06
shadeslayer\o12:07
apacheloggerafiestas: what is funny about that akonadi bug is that it is the 300's incarnation of forgot-to-create-dir in Qt ^^12:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: So I managed to get Kubuntu on the Tablet, but plasma active just won't start12:10
apacheloggerit is a case of plasma12:10
shadeslayerit crashes after showing the splash screen ( The spinny thing )12:10
apacheloggerwell12:10
apacheloggerread the backtrace :P12:10
shadeslayerDoes active do software rendering12:10
shadeslayerDon't have one12:10
shadeslayerjust startactive logs12:10
apacheloggerso make one?12:11
apacheloggerand try --help12:11
shadeslayerprimarily, the problem seems to be that plasma active doesn't do software rendering12:11
apacheloggerI do remember there being an option for GL, however that was not default12:11
apacheloggeror maybe that was mobile12:11
apacheloggeranyhow12:11
apachelogger-> office12:11
shadeslayersec12:11
apolif it's crashing, then it works fine :D12:11
afiestasbtw, is anyone trying to package ktp 0.4 ?12:13
shadeslayerafiestas: I'll look into it12:19
shadeslayerafiestas: release is like a month away though12:19
shadeslayerfeature freeze is this weekend12:19
* shadeslayer needs to fix the chat plasmoid this weekend to get it into the release12:19
afiestasshadeslayer: would be awesome to have it for doing testing12:32
afiestasin my dev environment I'm always with the doubt if stuff is nto working beacuse of my setup12:32
shadeslayerafiestas: I'll probably package it after 10th12:49
shadeslayerdid I mention PA is broken on x86 as well12:49
shadeslayerso clearly something is wrong with the packages12:49
shadeslayeror maybe I haven't installed something ( Kind of difficult see'ing how I have full KDE install and everything that Plasma Active pulls in )12:50
shadeslayer!find org.kde.klauncher12:56
ubottuPackage/file org.kde.klauncher does not exist in oneiric12:56
shadeslayer!find org.kde.klauncher precise12:56
ubottuPackage/file org.kde.klauncher does not exist in precise12:56
shadeslayer...12:56
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Peace-mmm after the last upgrade i have an issue with file associtaitons13:08
apacheloggerafiestas: we'd put 0.4 into a PPA mosdef13:09
Peace-open with has an empty list13:09
Peace-i have solved with one trick   btw13:10
Peace- cp /etc/xdg/menus/kde4-applications.menu ~/.config/menus/applications.menu13:12
Peace-the error was 13:12
Peace-kbuildsycoca4(8327): "applications.menu"  not found in  ("/home/peace/.config/menus/", "/etc/xdg/menus/") 13:12
apoldo you guys have the qt desktop components packaged somewhere?13:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/447938 le active log that I get on x8613:14
Riddellapol: QML widget?  no I'm pretty sure we don't package that, it has never been released13:14
apolyep13:15
apolok13:15
apacheloggershadeslayer: wher eis the bt?13:16
shadeslayerdon't have one .. that's all I have13:16
shadeslayerI'll look into a bt in a minute13:16
BluesKajHi all13:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: well what good is that if you have a crash? :P13:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: I don't have a crash13:17
shadeslayeror atleast I think I don't have a crash13:17
apacheloggerwell, what do you get?13:18
apacheloggera black screen?13:18
shadeslayeryep13:18
apacheloggeradd krunner and/or konsole to autostart then13:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: eh? this is what I do : Start normal KDE -> kquitapp plasma-desktop -> startactive from a terminal13:19
apacheloggerwtf?13:19
shadeslayernot that it runs from a tty either13:20
apacheloggerstartactive is like startkde it seems from that output13:20
apacheloggerso you'll need to log into an active session13:20
shadeslayerok13:20
shadeslayerlemme do that13:20
apacheloggerwhere the session is started by startactive rathe rhtan startkde13:20
apachelogger!find startactive13:21
ubottuPackage/file startactive does not exist in oneiric13:22
apachelogger!find startactive precise13:22
ubottuFound: startactive, startactive-data, startactive-ksplash-theme13:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: maybe it is isn't like startkde after all13:23
apacheloggerI totally don't get this thing13:23
apacheloggerbest talk to rbelem13:23
tsdgeosRiddell: in case you didn't see 4.8.1 was released13:25
BluesKajwhat's google.com got to do with the 12.04 repos ..i see the update is stalled there waiting for headers ...updating chromium?13:28
BluesKajguess not , it finished , finally 13:31
Riddelltsdgeos: context needed, version number clash!  qt or kde sc ?13:32
tsdgeosRiddell: qt13:33
Riddelltsdgeos: lovely13:33
Riddelltsdgeos: where would I see that other than hoping to find out on IRC?13:33
tsdgeosRiddell: twitter told me :D13:33
tsdgeoshttp://blog.qt.nokia.com/ would tell you too13:33
Riddellhmm, neither are ideal forms for me13:34
Riddelltsdgeos: who's the qt release manager do you know?  anyone who can be convinced to post to kde-packagers?13:34
Riddellfregl? ^^13:34
* tsdgeos knows nothing13:34
freglRiddell: ah, it's been released? nice... I've been swamped in other stuff, didn't even notice.13:36
Riddellfregl: i think you have just proven my point :)13:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: upstream says it's indexing my entire home folder13:41
shadeslayerso I've set nepomuk to index just a empty folder13:42
shadeslayerretrying now ... and seems that the indexer blocks the GUI thread somehow13:42
apachelogger<-- lols13:42
freglRiddell: lol13:45
freglRiddell: qt blog is very official, but it should have been on development@qt-project.org as well...13:47
freglah, it's not even labs :s13:48
Riddellfregl: but it's not very useful for me, I don't subscribe to blogs and I don't want to subscribe to a busy mailing list13:48
RiddellI need a low traffic announce mailing list13:48
Riddelland I'm sure there will be other people in my position13:48
freglRiddell: I thought we had an announce list...13:48
freglRiddell: http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/announce13:49
fregland it wasn't on there. ok, I'll try to look into it13:49
Riddellthe collective memory about this list must be lost :)13:50
freglit's new since it moved to new infrastructure...13:50
fregl*sigh*13:50
Riddellmm, so the announce list needs an announcement13:50
freglyeah13:50
Riddellok I'll announce it to kde-packagers if you announce it to the qt release managers, deal?13:51
freglI'm already writing a mail...13:51
Riddelllovely13:52
freglRiddell: thanks for pointing it out :) I guess qt-project needs to learn to walk on its own ;)13:52
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Riddellyofel, apachelogger: could kubotu get a command where we go "new relase of qt 4.8.1" and it file a needs-packaging bug for that?15:09
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apacheloggerRiddell: yes, though that requires emailing15:11
* apachelogger never ever emailed in rubyrubyruby15:12
yofelcan you run a python script from ruby? Then one could probably do that with launchpadlib15:12
Riddellapachelogger: or API usage15:13
yofelRiddell: although, then we could just stuff the script in kubuntu-dev-tools15:14
apacheloggeryofel: why api when we only need to send a mail?15:15
yofeldon't you still need to sign the mail?15:15
apacheloggerdunno15:15
yofeliirc any mail API usage requires gpg signed mails15:16
apacheloggerat any rate, what might be worthwhile would also be mailing to kubuntu-devel15:16
apacheloggerso that people actually take note of it15:16
Riddellapachelogger: "just" send a mail is harder than running a script15:16
apacheloggeryofel: gpg signing is still no problme though ^^15:17
Riddellfor example I have no idea how to send a mail to launchpad15:17
apacheloggerRiddell: no, I mean have kubotu send the mail15:17
Riddellkubotu: do you know how to send a mail to launchpad?15:17
kubotunot yet15:18
BluesKajRiddell,  and if we did know , would anyone see it and take action ? :)15:18
yofelRiddell: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface15:18
* apachelogger once did a mass bug filing using email15:18
apacheloggerwent very smooth15:18
RiddellBluesKaj: yes I often find myself asking "what needs packaged" and others ask too15:18
Riddellyofel: I don't care :)15:18
Riddelle-mail is not a good interace for applications15:19
Riddellit's why I dislike bugs.debian.org15:19
apachelogger*shrug*15:19
yofelwell, debian BTS is weird indeed, still nice to have though15:19
apacheloggerwho gives a crap what runs underneith a kubotu command? :P15:19
Riddellso long as you maintain it, nobody :)15:20
Riddellbut having a simple script to do it would be an added advantage15:20
yofelapachelogger: what I was thinking about 2 days ago, was tracking packaging todo with tagged bugs as the motu's do. I.e. needs-packaging and upgrade-software-version15:20
apacheloggerupgrade-software-version?15:21
apacheloggerlaunchpad can track needs-packaging easily :P15:22
yofelthat's for new versions of existing software, needs-packaging is only for unpackaged things15:22
apacheloggerget * where tag needs-packaging AND kubuntu15:22
apacheloggeryofel: why not use the same tag? :P15:22
yofelapachelogger: ask the ubuntu folks? I didn't think of that15:23
apacheloggerwell15:23
yofelor we could just invent k-package or something like that15:23
apacheloggerit doesn't mean we need to use their scheme :P15:23
yofelwell, it was a suggestion. If it's too much of a hassle don't do it15:24
apacheloggerwell, it still can be done in launchpad15:24
yofelif we're doing it scripted it's no problem, but kubuntu + needs-packaging and kubuntu + upgrade-software-version would need 2 links for the UI listing15:25
apacheloggerone ag15:25
apacheloggertag15:25
Riddellyofel: can't you search for multiple tags?15:25
apacheloggerscrew that upgrade-software-version15:25
apacheloggerno one is going to write that ^^15:25
apacheloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.15:25
apacheloggerstructural_subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=needs-packaging+kubuntu&field.tags_combinator=ALL&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.15:25
apacheloggerhas_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search15:25
apachelogger<3 lunchpad urls15:25
Riddellyofel: oh I see that's an AND with OR query15:25
apacheloggerRiddell: not in an either or manner15:25
yofelright15:26
Riddellapachelogger: goo.gl!15:26
apacheloggerwell15:26
apacheloggernot my fault that they need to put default values into the url15:26
apachelogger:P15:26
apacheloggeralso quassel could do that for me ^^15:26
* yofel wonders if there's a bug about *that*15:26
yofellaunchpad I mean15:26
Riddellthat was one of sabdfl's complaints about bugzilla back in the day15:26
apacheloggerRiddell: the long urls?15:27
Riddellyes15:27
yofelIf you want me to write a bug filing script I can do that, but not before Friday15:27
Riddellyofel: I'd like that15:28
apacheloggerRiddell: good thing he fixed that with lunchpad ;)15:28
* yofel adds to his other bazillion things on the todo list15:29
apacheloggershadeslayer: does ur stuff start yet15:30
Riddellapachelogger: is bug 966450 a theme issue?16:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966403 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #966450 Lubuntu Install (entire disk with encryption) doesn't prompt for disk password." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96640316:00
apacheloggerRiddell: could be16:01
apacheloggerthat is if the theme does not implment the functions called by plymouth for password prompts it will obviously not display anything16:01
Riddellapachelogger: mm will your shiny new theme implement them?16:04
apacheloggerit has almost exactly the same code as before16:05
apacheloggerexcept now it has a sprite with an image 16:05
apacheloggerin addition to everything else16:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: well ... kinda16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: I can run plasma-device and get it to start16:34
shadeslayeron x8616:34
shadeslayerupgrading tablet to precise and will test there tonight16:34
shadeslayerstartactive is completely foobared though16:34
shadeslayerneeds investigation, upstream says it won't launch plasma-device until it finds all the components16:34
apolI'm getting this error message... can somebody tell me what it means please?16:34
apolhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/98690210/upload_3590870_log.txt16:34
shadeslayerand for some reason, kubuntu-active doesn't pull in anything16:35
shadeslayercyber stuff? :P16:35
shadeslayerahh16:36
shadeslayerapol: where are you uploading it to?16:36
apolshadeslayer: yes, it's what we're using for netrunner stuff...16:36
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff ?16:36
apolshadeslayer: I'm not uploading... it's LP who is building it :/16:37
shadeslayerok, give me a minute16:37
* shadeslayer investigates16:37
shadeslayeraha16:37
shadeslayerapol: did you upload 2 tarballs?16:37
shadeslayerbut with different contents16:37
georgelappieswhat is the best workaround for the bold ubuntu font issue in 12.04 for now?16:37
apolshadeslayer: well, it should be getting the tarballs from git master16:39
shadeslayerapol: you need to bump versions between uploads, use muon_1.4.0+repack~aa1-3~1322~precise1 as the new version16:39
shadeslayeroh16:39
shadeslayeris this a recipe?16:39
apolI don't really understand the recipe though :D16:39
apolshadeslayer: yes16:39
shadeslayerlooking16:39
apolthanks a lot :)16:39
shadeslayernp16:40
yofelapol: can you link to the actual build? and not just the log?16:40
apolyofel, shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily16:40
shadeslayer deb-version {debupstream}-3~{revno}16:40
shadeslayerthat's bound to cause issues because of revno16:40
shadeslayerstupid bzr-git plugin16:41
apolhm16:41
apolshadeslayer: so I should update the recipe?16:41
shadeslayeryofel: ^ didn't we see those in neon as well?16:41
shadeslayerno no16:41
yofelacutally16:41
shadeslayerapol: my question is now this, I see rev 1322 is already uploaded16:42
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1322&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1322 | uups. The error message is not valid for the cpp file16:42
yofelwhat happens here is that he's triggering multiple builds for the same version16:42
shadeslayeryes16:42
yofelthat doesn't work16:42
shadeslayerI was coming to that16:42
apolwell no16:42
shadeslayerbut in general, didn't we decide we should not just rely on revno?16:42
yofelapol: why did you do that?16:42
apolI pushed some changes16:42
apolthen I requested a new build16:42
yofelwhere?16:42
shadeslayerbecause revno's are unreliable16:42
apolgit.kde.org16:42
shadeslayeryeah i can see those16:42
shadeslayerapol: and it built the package16:42
yofelthen you forgot to tell the importer to run16:42
yofelit only runs every ~few hours16:43
shadeslayernope16:43
shadeslayerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~hrvojes/muon/trunk16:43
shadeslayerI see a bunch of his commits16:43
yofelyeah, but he triggered the build in the last half hour16:44
yofellast import was over 4h ago16:44
shadeslayerapol: did you push changes in the last 45 minutes or so?16:44
yofelhe did16:44
* yofel looked at git16:44
shadeslayerif you did and you want those, you'll need to run the importer as apol said16:44
shadeslayerah16:44
shadeslayers/apol/yofel16:45
yofelheh16:45
yofelapol: see on https://code.launchpad.net/~hrvojes/muon/trunk the 'import now' button? click that if you need to16:45
apolugh16:45
shadeslayeryofel: also, revno, isn't that bound to fsck stuff up at times?16:46
shadeslayerlike when you merge stuff in git16:46
yofellaunchpad has limited resources. You can't expect it to import every 10 minutes16:46
yofelshadeslayer: that too16:46
shadeslayerafaik bzr git doesn't handle merges and rewrites bzr history or sth16:46
apolso what's the point of not importing automatically before running?16:46
shadeslayerso your revno gets screwed up16:46
yofelapol: file a bug against launchpad 16:47
* yofel wouldn't mind that feature either16:47
shadeslayer:D16:47
apolxD16:47
apolisn't it possible to do that in the recipe?16:47
yofelso far no16:48
apolok16:49
apolthanks a lot yofel and shadeslayer :)16:49
yofelwe have plenty of recipe debugging experience -.-16:49
* shadeslayer points at the revno issue16:49
shadeslayerheh :)16:49
shadeslayerI'd say that bzr git is working partly because of Project Neon :P16:49
yofel+1 :D16:51
shadeslayerapol: yofel can you try and clone this : http://www.paulburton.eu/git/?p=tf101/kernel.git;a=summary16:52
shadeslayerdoesn't even clone for some reason here16:53
apolshadeslayer: it's like the server is not answering...16:54
apoldo you have a tf? :P16:54
shadeslayeryeah16:54
shadeslayeryep16:54
shadeslayertf + ubuntu precise ( it's upgrading atm )16:54
shadeslayer:D16:54
apolshadeslayer: does KDE work well there?16:54
shadeslayerapol: uhh ... I couldn't get plasma active up on the last try, upgrading again16:54
shadeslayereverything is slow16:54
apolshadeslayer: what about normal KDE?16:55
shadeslayerthere are graphics drivers for the tegra2 processor but no kernel16:55
shadeslayerapol: yeah that starts up16:55
shadeslayersoftware rendering16:55
shadeslayerbut the problem with that are the touch inputs16:55
apolyes indeed16:57
yofelhm16:57
apolalthough... well16:57
* yofel wonders if we want muon builds in neon16:57
apolthere's not that much you can do with active ATM16:57
shadeslayerapol: really?16:57
shadeslayerI'm going to install it in a bit16:57
apolshadeslayer: then you tell me in a while ;)16:57
shadeslayeralso kubuntu-active looks broken, doesn't pull in anything :)16:58
yofelapol: aseigo wants to sell it, so it has to be a bit usable16:58
apoli've just tried it on my exopc16:58
shadeslayerapol: one thing I discovered though, active wants nepomuk and nepomuk want's to index ALL the things16:58
apol:D16:58
shadeslayerso even on my i7 it hung up16:58
apolnepomuk is not bad per se16:58
apolspecially if there's no KMail around16:58
shadeslayerit's went beserk indexing my entire home dir16:58
shadeslayerblocked the UI and stuff16:59
shadeslayerapol: I'm reasonably sure that I can't do anything productive on this device until someone ports over the 3.1 kernel17:00
yofelit usually consumes all disk I/O for a while after login. After it's done with that it's usable17:00
shadeslayerand that is why the git clone link above :)17:01
shadeslayerunity was barely usable17:01
jussishadeslayer: unity and nepomuk... huh?17:02
shadeslayerjussi: the image i installed came with unity17:02
jussioh17:02
jussiI actually like unity17:02
shadeslayerjussi: it's actually pretty good on touch screen devices17:02
jussipolished and works well17:02
jussishadeslayer: yeah, I imagine it does17:03
shadeslayeraltho, I just don't think I'll be able to use it everyday17:03
* shadeslayer loves krunner too damn much17:03
jussishadeslayer: Im giving a 30 day trial on my work lappy17:03
shadeslayerjussi: how's your daughter? :D17:03
jussishadeslayer: Elodi is doing great :)17:03
shadeslayer:)17:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: why don't you simply build a kernel for the t2?17:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: because you can't simply build the 3.1 kernel for the tf217:05
apacheloggerwhy not?17:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: because the chip isn't exactly the same as say the AC10017:06
shadeslayeror the Ventana board17:06
shadeslayerthere are subtle differences17:06
apacheloggerthat doesn't say thing17:06
apachelogger*anything17:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: what is the problem17:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: It needs porting, I can't just build the generic configuration from pure linux sources17:06
shadeslayerit won't work17:06
* Sput really wishes kubuntu would upgrade to flashplayer 11.2 soon, as 11.1 constantly crashes rekonq and konqueror17:07
apacheloggerthey do release it with android, no?17:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: 2.36.x releases17:07
shadeslayernot 3.1 kernels17:07
shadeslayerwhereas the drivers work only with the 3.1 kernels17:07
apacheloggerso simply rebase the changes?17:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: but the problem is that the ASUS released kernels don't even build!17:07
apacheloggerwhy not?17:08
shadeslayerFTBFS 17:08
apacheloggerdue17:08
shadeslayerlemme show you sec17:08
apacheloggerdude17:08
shadeslayerhmm?17:08
apacheloggeryour answers...17:08
shadeslayerkernel/power/suspend.c:30:52: fatal error: arch/arm/mach-tegra/include/mach/iomap.h: No such file or directory17:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^ stuff like that, I only started building the sources on tuesday, need more time to fix them17:09
shadeslayerI'm working on it though17:09
debfxSput: flash 11.2 is already in the repository17:09
apacheloggerhttp://lwn.net/Articles/383942/17:09
Sputdebfx: could you point me to it please? my googlefu failed17:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: you shoudl rebase onto 3.117:09
* Sput can't stand chrome anymore and wants to go back to rekonq17:09
shadeslayeruh ok17:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: will look into that17:10
apacheloggergoogle pushed a shitload of tegra code 17:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: I have never ever built a kernel before17:10
shadeslayerso I'm learning slowly17:10
apacheloggervery easy once you got the grasp of it17:10
debfxSput: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2012-March/012004.html17:10
* shadeslayer plans to demo this next month at his Uni17:10
apacheloggerthat is, you really just need to grab the config from asus and their changes17:10
apacheloggerthen try to build with their config17:10
apacheloggermost of the time that will simply work17:11
shadeslayerok17:11
shadeslayerlooking into that17:11
shadeslayeraltho, looking into the kernel source code was quite fun17:11
shadeslayerit looked alot like something I did when programming a microcontroller17:12
shadeslayerhmm17:13
apacheloggeraround here we prog microcontrollers in verilog, not C :P17:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: after getting the kernel built it's simply a matter of packing up the initrd and zimage into a bootimg and the bootimg into a kernel blob that I can flash into a partition17:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah, I've dabbled in that as well :P17:15
shadeslayerVHDL as well17:15
shadeslayerVHDL was a PITA really17:15
Sputdebfx: ah cool... does this mean it should already be in the repos, or should I download the packages from lp myself?17:15
Sputapt-get update didn't find it at least17:15
apacheloggerMamarok: do we have an ETA on dinner?17:16
apacheloggeroh, actually I should be buying coke, zomg17:16
yofelSput: adobe-flashplugin is in partner17:16
debfxSput: do you have flashplugin-installer or adobe-flashplugin installed?17:16
yofel!partner > Sput17:16
ubottuSput, please see my private message17:16
Sputthx :)17:17
* Sput is still new to this packaging stuff17:17
shadeslayeroh sweet, they have a separate repo for tegra devices17:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/tegra.git17:17
debfxyeah you should use the package from the partner repository and remove flashplugin-installer17:17
shadeslayerzomg17:17
Sputah ok, I had the latter, will install now the former17:18
Sputand let's hope that the crashes go away and I can use rekonq again17:18
Sputthx :)17:18
sneleJontheEchidna: sometimes muon update manager crashes when both, package menager and updater are running. Backtrace: http://paste.kde.org/448130/ 17:18
yofelshadeslayer: hm, git is still trying to clone that kernel repos17:25
apacheloggerkernel repos are biiiit17:26
apacheloggerbiiig even17:26
apacheloggeror bigggg17:26
apacheloggerdunno17:26
yofellast time I cloned linux-stable from kernel.org it was much faster than this17:26
yofelthis was before kernel.org went down though17:26
yofelweird bug of the week - bug 96562217:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 965622 in Kubuntu PPA "firefox terminates my session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96562217:28
apacheloggerwhy weird?17:32
yofelshadeslayer: the repos cloned successfully, you just don't see any output from git while it clones... for whatever reason17:35
yofelapachelogger: where would you start debugging that?17:35
shadeslayergot it17:35
yofelwtf17:36
yofel$ du -sh kernel/17:36
yofel1.1G    kernel/17:36
apacheloggeryofel: in xsession-errors :P17:36
yofelno wonder it took ages17:36
apachelogger2 possible causes come to mind: 1) mem leak 2) video graphics driver crash17:36
apacheloggerconsidering the reporter mentioned virtuoso going wild 1) seems more likely17:37
apacheloggerso the OOMKiller comes around and shoot everything dead17:37
yofeltrue17:37
yofelthanks17:37
shadeslayer'The Terminator' fits much better :P17:37
shadeslayeruh17:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: I think the patches you showed me might be just for dev boards17:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: I did not show you any patches17:40
shadeslayerhttp://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/7757617:40
shadeslayerisn't that what you pointed me to?\17:41
apacheloggeryou should read what I write :P17:42
apacheloggerhttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=tree;f=arch/arm/mach-tegra;h=ed91eafe33361ce842f7654dad082c3fc218888e;hb=6658a6991cef75719a21441aa0b7f8d6821534ee17:42
* shadeslayer looks17:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok I don't follow at all17:48
shadeslayeryou're saying I should clone the 3.1 branch and rebase ASUS's changes ?17:48
georgelappiesfor now I installed the droid font package, but would really like to use the ubuntu fonts. I tried installing the font package for 11.10 but it did not help17:53
snelein precise beta2 calendar on digital clock looks like this: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1O/3O/2iicdDW4/snapshot1.png18:31
snelebut I think it should look like this: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2w/VR/3iU4H7ia/snapshot2.png18:32
sneleregion USA should be set to "not used" instead "days off"18:32
snelepopup calendar on first screenshot looks wierd to me :) can this be changed in kubuntu default settings? 18:35
sneleit is small thing but it means polish :)18:36
yofelsnele: it's set to not used for everything except the region you live in, there it's days off by default19:02
yofellooks normal to me19:03
sneleyofel: well i live in serbia, and i have chosen serbia time/region while installing, but usa is chosen with "days off"19:05
snelei will give it another look tomorow19:05
snelei got to go now19:05
snelehave a nice evening19:05
yofelhm, I guess it falls back to US19:05
yofelif there is no local calendar19:05
yofel*that* sounds like a bug19:05
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shadeslayerwhee plasma active kinda running on my device19:15
shadeslayerwell shit19:15
shadeslayerit's fast19:15
shadeslayereven with software rendering19:16
afiestashttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29694921:06
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: [Errno 101] Network is unreachable (http://bugs.kde.org/xml.cgi?id=296949)21:06
afiestasgood thing to backport in case we can't put 4.8.2 in 12.0421:06

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