/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/28/#ubuntu+1.txt

FernandoCuevawhat's wiggle means00:25
Dulakbounce or flash to gain attention00:26
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thiebaudehey Dr_willis00:30
BlakJakI got one... I want to do something similar to what Windows does when the Panel Window Buttons get full... at the moment you can set window buttons to group 'always' or 'never'... why isn't there a 'when panel is full' option??00:32
BlakJak(xubuntu)00:32
Num83rGuyI set up KDE's file sharing (samba) But the windows machene asks for user and pass when I put mine in it says fail.00:45
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Num83rGuyNVM Fixed.00:57
Num83rGuysudo smbpasswd -a $USER00:57
hank__Hi, how is it hangin' with Unity UI? when is it "finished"?00:57
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FernandoCuevaI'm trying everything I can to mount this floppy drive that's 1.68MB size and I can't do it nothing's on the target directory I'm using the command sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat -o ro,user,noauto,exec,utf800:58
bazhangFernandoCueva, please dont crosspost in multiple channels01:03
DmoleOn a fresh install the menu bar is missing, but it shows in virtualbox, can anyone help?01:08
luckyonehello all - are there handbrake ppa's available for precise? I thought stebbins would have one, but I don't see that package available.01:15
bazhangluckyone, let me check01:17
bazhangluckyone, probably waiting for precise to be released, but I have no doubt it will be there; in the past the maverick worked for natty as I was waiting for natty release, but since the actual release of pangolin is just a few weeks away its really up to you01:20
logDmole: Are you sure it's missing? You know how the global menu works, right?01:31
logluckyone: The oneiric version will probably work with precise.01:32
snadgeim using the oneiric version of virtualbox with precise01:49
snadgewhich appears to work okay01:49
Dmolelog: yes I'm quite sure, I have it working on virtual box just not the laptop, + I can the outline of where it should be when I search02:01
skyjumperis compiz choppy for anyone else?02:30
itaylor57it was yesterday02:34
skyjumpernot now?02:35
itaylor57no i am fine today02:36
decksmasherHi guys.ive just downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and love it, but i really want to run fluxbox with it. i was just wondering if anybody has done this before i started.?02:39
Roastedhi03:41
Roastedanybody use rhythmbox? I'm finding it won't full screen on my 2nd monitor03:41
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ryeAnybody had any issues printing on 12.04 - when the cups reports everything is printed but nothing gets out of the printer (e.g. w/ SpliX drivers)04:24
* micahg is having issues with HP04:24
ryemicahg: issues like the one i described?04:25
micahgrye: yes04:26
micahgwith HP the firmware wasn't loaded, once I did that I had no issue printing04:27
ryemicahg: well, in my case the printer does not need the firmware, so it does not look like the same thing04:27
micahgrye: kern.log shows the printer repeatedly disconnecting though04:28
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ryemicahg: oh, this is interesting, same here04:31
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tr0ni downloaded ntop but when i run it i get an error saying to run it with -P <directory>, what dir should i specify?04:34
ryetr0n: check the man page of ntop - -P --db-file-path, -Q --spool-file-path These parameters specify where ntop stores database files. This is not 12.04-specific question though04:43
tr0nwell i run 12.0404:44
tr0ni just ran elinks http://localhost:3000 and it worked04:47
wasteoftimehey can i get oneiric knowledge here05:30
tr0nno, read the topic05:31
tr0ngo to #ubuntu05:31
wasteoftimei am banned from everywhere05:31
wasteoftimeisint precise linux??/05:31
tr0nagain, read the topic05:32
tr0nthis is a channel for precise05:32
tr0n!ot | wasteoftime05:32
ubottuwasteoftime: #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu.  Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support.  Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.05:33
wasteoftimewill u please let me get oneiric advise here i am banned from everywhere05:33
DulakYou'd think the name was enough of a clue, but he's not even subtle about it.05:33
tr0nno05:34
tr0nhaha05:34
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Krasikhello07:08
KrasikI am having an ATI issue07:08
Krasikanyone here willing to help me work on an ATI Xpress 1150 issue?07:09
Num83rGuyCopy / paste it from the other channel07:09
Krasikthe issue is it'snot installing properly07:09
KrasikI'm having problems installing the appropriate driver07:09
KrasikUnder System Details, it shows Graphics as Unknown07:10
Num83rGuyHave you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver07:13
KrasikI will read that, thanks!07:14
Num83rGuyKrasik I am not sure if it will help I'm an nvidia guy my self.07:15
Krasikme too07:15
Krasikcan't help my lappy came with ATI and I want Linux ha07:15
Num83rGuyAye.07:15
anthroposis anyone else experiencing an issue in 12.04 whereby seahorse won't save any passwords (manually added) in a keyring07:20
Krasik:)07:22
curiousx=)07:22
KrasikI will have to restart to get bak in linux07:22
Krasikand dl XChat for linux07:22
curiousxok07:22
Krasikloading 11.10 on usb just incase I want to downgrade07:22
Krasikso, I'll swap over when that is finished, should be in the next minute or so07:23
curiousxok07:23
KrasikI do like 12.04 so I hope I can get that to work properly07:23
Krasikat least I can get full resolution07:23
curiousxye07:24
Krasikokay, I'll be back in linux07:24
curiousxthere is no problem07:24
curiousxgive me a minute07:25
curiousxwhere were we ? =P07:35
curiousxso here we are xD07:35
Krasikhi07:36
Krasikokay, I'm back07:36
Krasikin Linux07:36
curiousxye with 12.04?07:36
Krasikyes07:36
curiousxdid you downloaded the driver?07:36
Krasikyes07:37
Krasikjsut finished07:37
Krasikhaven't tried installing just yet07:37
curiousxKrasik: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 wget execstack libelfg007:37
KrasikReading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done debconf is already the newest version. dkms is already the newest version. dkms set to manually installed. fakeroot is already the newest version. fakeroot set to manually installed. libqtgui4 is already the newest version. libstdc++6 is already the newest version. wget is already the newest version. You might want to run 'apt-get -f ins07:38
Krasikwhere does it download to trom the terminal07:38
curiousxnowhere07:39
Krasikokay, so how do I run it07:39
Krasikafter I wget'ed it07:39
curiousxKrasik: uname -a07:40
Krasikuname -a07:40
Krasikwhat?07:40
curiousxin the terminal type: uname -a07:40
Krasikokay, I did07:40
curiousxpaste it07:40
KrasikLinux ArtofKrasik2 3.2.0-20-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 27 16:42:26 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux07:40
KrasikI am running 64 bit07:40
curiousxKrasik: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs07:41
Krasikso, that could be part of my issue, and that Precise isn't support07:41
curiousxcould be07:41
KrasikReading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch  xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).07:41
KrasikI've tried the apt-get -f install07:41
Krasiklots of failed dependencies07:42
curiousxoh! i forgot apt said you run 'apt-get -f install'07:42
curiousxso: sudo apt-get -f install07:42
Krasiktried that several times07:42
curiousxif ask for somthing just hit "Y"07:42
Krasikkrasik@ArtofKrasik2:~$ sudo apt-get install -f Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed:   xserver-xorg-video-ati The following packages will be upgraded:   07:43
Krasikyes, I did07:43
jussiis it possible to change the style of what is presented when pressing alt-tab?07:43
KrasikThe following packages will be upgraded:   xserver-xorg-video-ati 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/7,408 B of archives. After this operation, 237 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-ati:  xserver-xorg-core (2:1.11.4-0ubuntu7) breaks xserver-xorg-video-6 and i07:43
curiousxjussi: ye with compiz-config-setting-manager07:44
jussicuriousx: right, let me go have a look :)07:44
curiousxKrasik: use http://paste.ubuntu.com for large paste07:45
Krasikalso Curiousx, my package system is broken07:45
curiousxi know07:45
Krasikokay, thanks07:45
curiousxKrasik: have you aptitude installed ?07:45
Krasiknot sure07:46
Krasikno07:46
Krasikand missing dependencies07:46
KrasikI thought apt-get would dlownload the required dependencies07:46
Krasikunluess, my package system is broken07:46
curiousxi dont think that might possible install it but, sudo apt-get install aptitude07:47
jussiKrasik: try running sudo apt-get update07:47
KrasikI have07:47
Krasikno avail07:47
jussithen the apt-get install -f07:47
KrasikI disabled the ppa repositories07:47
Krasikearlier hoping that owuld fix my package system, nope07:48
jussiKrasik: sudo dpkg --configure -a07:48
curiousxthat will ask a lot of things07:48
curiousxKrasik: wich PPA you disabled it ?07:49
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903487/07:49
Krasikdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-ati:  xserver-xorg-core (2:1.11.4-0ubuntu7) breaks xserver-xorg-video-6 and is installed.   xserver-xorg-video-ati (1:6.13.99+git20100903.2b98ec1f-0ubuntu0tormod) provides xserver-xorg-video-6. dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg-video-ati (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:  xserver-xorg-video-ati07:49
Krasikcan't seem to repair my package catalog07:50
curiousxKrasik: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get -y upgrade07:50
Krasikhe following packages have unmet dependencies:  xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6 E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.07:51
Krasikall comes down to that xserver-xorg-core07:51
curiousxKrasik: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* xorg-driver-fglrx07:52
BlakJakKrasik: what source are yo uusing07:52
BlakJakuse the 'main source'... when I installed my xubuntu 12.04b1 using a local source I suffered from out of date source screwing wwith stuff07:53
BlakJakjust chcking - coz your problem looks a little similar to what i had07:53
Krasikhmm07:53
curiousxKrasik: sudo software-properties-gtk07:53
Krasikthat didn't help07:53
Krasikcuriousx07:53
Krasikokay07:53
curiousxand see set "main source"07:54
BlakJakKrasik: not sure who 'that didn't help' was directed at... once you've set the main source you need to run apt-get update from a shell07:54
BlakJakwith sudo, of course07:54
KrasikI din't see main sourcfe07:54
Krasiknvm07:55
BlakJakcuriousx: sorry i dont mean to get in the way07:55
Krasikokay07:55
Krasikso I think I'm getting somewhere07:55
curiousxwhere say "Download from" you have to set "main server"07:55
Krasikbtw, thanks for your help guys, really07:55
Krasikyeah, it was on server for United States07:55
Krasikthen disabled all under other sources07:56
Krasiknow what? lol07:56
curiousxits ok BlakJak07:56
BlakJakKrasik: so have you set main server instead of 'server from US' ?07:56
Krasikyes07:56
BlakJakok, having done so, run apt-get update07:56
BlakJak?07:56
BlakJakthen run apt-get upgrade07:57
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903492/07:57
Krasikokay07:57
Krasiknothing to be upgraded07:57
BlakJakok.. 'twas worth a shot.. i'll shut up now :)07:57
Krasiklol, thanks anyway! :)07:57
KrasikI turn away no help07:58
BlakJak(have found it helps to run off the main server when running the beta)07:58
Krasikgotcha07:58
BlakJakI have another problem... bugs with the panel in xubuntu07:58
Krasiknow, how do I install this bad bow07:59
Krasikboy07:59
Krasikwell, not really, crappy card07:59
curiousxKrasik: lets try another, sudo apt-get -f install07:59
KrasikThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:00
KrasikI also have synaptic, but not running08:00
curiousxKrasik: sudo apt-get autoremove08:00
curiousxok08:00
Krasikokay08:00
Krasikremoved08:00
curiousxKrasik: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs08:01
Krasikkrasik@ArtofKrasik2:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'ia32-libs' has no installation candidate08:02
curiousxwell seems like we dont have 32 libs on precise =P08:03
Krasikheh08:03
curiousxlets try another way to install it08:04
Krasikokay08:04
BlakJaksec08:04
KrasikI'm up for any suggestions08:04
curiousxso... chmod u+x amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run08:04
Krasikokay08:05
anthroposyou tried building the .deb with --buildpkg right?08:05
curiousxi mean paste: ls08:05
curiousxyep that what i wanted to do08:05
anthropossounds good, just be sure not to run the installer directly08:05
BlakJakmarkf@hawkeye:~$ dpkg -l ia32-libs08:05
BlakJakDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold08:05
BlakJak| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend08:05
BlakJak|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)08:05
BlakJak||/ Name                        Version                     Description08:05
BlakJak+++-===========================-===========================-======================================================================08:05
anthroposbuilding the package is def the way to go08:05
curiousxbut right now i try another way08:05
BlakJakii  ia32-libs                   20090808ubuntu35            ia32 shared libraries - transitional package08:05
Krasikokay08:05
BlakJakit's definately in the repo...08:05
Krasikso after chmod in terminal,08:06
anthroposif you get fglrx installed through ati's thing you have to be carefult to totally purge it before reinstalling a different verison08:06
KrasikI don't think I have fglrx as I purged it earlier08:06
curiousxoh!08:06
Krasikwhich thanks to curiousx, I'm oh my way08:06
curiousxKrasik: do: sudo apt-get update08:06
curiousxthen ia32libs have tobe in repos08:07
curiousxBlakJak: got it08:07
BlakJakthought he'd done that already :\08:07
curiousxme too08:07
Krasikdoing itnow08:08
Krasikinstalling08:08
Krasikre-ran sudo apt-get install ia32-libs08:08
curiousxwhat you are installing ? did you run the installer ?08:08
Krasiknow it's getting all the dependencies08:08
curiousxah! ok08:08
curiousxok ok08:08
curiousxso now you have ia32-libs?08:08
Krasiksoon08:09
BlakJakyay... progress08:09
Krasikstill gettin08:09
Krasikindeed08:09
curiousxok08:09
curiousxso... paste: ls08:10
curiousxi mean where do you have the ATI installer ?08:10
Krasikwhat does that mean08:10
Krasikthe one we dl'ed through the terminal? no idea where it saved to08:10
curiousxgive what you have in a specific directory08:10
KrasikI do have a 9.3 catalyst08:10
curiousxok08:10
curiousxtype: ls08:11
curiousxand paste the ouput08:11
Krasikls08:11
curiousxye08:11
Krasik1s08:11
curiousxLS lowercase08:11
Krasikls08:11
Krasikwhere08:11
curiousxye08:11
Krasikdo I type this08:11
Krasiklol08:11
curiousxjust type it08:11
Krasikls08:11
KrasikI did08:11
curiousxpaste the ouptu08:11
KrasikI have no output08:12
curiousxin http://paste.ubuntu.com08:12
Krasikdo you mean in terminal?08:12
curiousxwell open a terminal do you know what is a terminal08:12
Krasikk08:12
curiousx?08:12
Krasikyes, I've used linux in the past08:12
KrasikOpenSuSE08:12
Krasikpasting08:12
curiousxok08:12
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903513/08:13
Krasikstill installing the libs08:14
curiousxwell... copy and paste in the same terminal: chmod u+x amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run08:14
Krasikdone08:15
Krasikokay08:15
Krasiklibs are done08:15
curiousxnow: sudo sh amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise08:16
Krasikcool, it's downloading this time08:17
curiousxwhats?08:17
KrasikI believe prereqs08:17
Krasiknow it's getting more08:18
Krasikalthough, there's a error08:18
KrasikGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 97.08:18
Krasikbut hasn;t halted anything yet08:18
Krasiknow it says continuing to build package08:19
curiousxwell whatever, paste: ls08:19
curiousxok wait08:19
Krasikcontinuing package build08:19
curiousxwait for that to finish its works08:19
anthroposthose errors are a dime a dozen...08:20
Krasikit shows blinking cursor and I can type but I'm not at a hash08:21
Krasikjust simply below the words continuing package uild08:21
anthroposit's working08:21
Krasiksweet08:22
Krasiktaking quite a while08:22
Krasikbut that's cool08:22
Volkodavanybody filed the bug on xfce-xkb not saving the layout option over reboot ?08:22
Krasikdamnit!08:23
Krasiknvm08:23
Krasikjumped the gun08:23
Krasikha08:23
Krasiknow I have a .deb08:23
curiousxpaste: ls08:24
anthropossudo dpkg -i <file>08:24
curiousxnop08:24
curiousxyou should have more than one .deb08:24
anthroposi think it makes three08:24
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903533/08:24
curiousxye08:24
Krasikyes08:24
Krasikit did08:24
anthroposthen that is the expected behavior, so far so good08:25
Krasikyay08:25
curiousxnow: sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb08:25
anthroposbe careful you don't have other versions lying around if you do that08:25
curiousxhe dont have08:25
curiousxwe unistall it08:25
Krasikerrors08:25
curiousxdeamn08:25
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903534/08:26
anthroposit sucks that fglrx depends on all these 32 bit libs08:26
Krasikindeed08:26
anthroposyou did get the 64 bit ver right?08:26
Krasikyes08:27
curiousxye its ok lets try one thing08:27
anthroposjust checking08:27
Krasikk08:27
curiousxfirst wa have to uninstall those .deb wait a second08:28
Krasikk08:28
curiousxtry this: sudo ddpkg -r fglrx_8.95008:29
curiousxtell me if it works08:29
Krasikdpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching fglrx_8.95008:29
KrasikI noticed in synaptic that fglrx needs upgraded08:30
Krasikor you can mark for ugprade08:30
Krasikit is listed under Broken for custom filters08:30
curiousxok, so: sudo dpkg -r fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-amdcccle08:30
curiousxthis will do the trick =P08:30
Krasikit is doing stuff08:31
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903541/08:31
curiousxnow: sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1 libc6-i38608:33
curiousxhope you can install them08:33
Krasikinitailly no, doing a sudo apt-get iinstall -ef08:34
Krasikf08:34
Krasik-f08:34
Krasikit's now fixing itself Ithink08:34
Krasiknot sure08:34
Krasikit says setting up lib32gcc108:34
Krasikso perhaps so08:34
curiousxye08:35
curiousxand libc6-i386?08:35
Krasikyes08:35
KrasikDKMS: install completed. update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... Setting up fglrx-dev (2:8.950-0ubuntu1) ... Setting up fglrx-amdcccle (2:8.960-0ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-308:35
Krasikokay08:36
Krasikso08:36
curiousxso let do on thing: sudo apt-get install aptitude08:36
curiousxone*08:36
KrasikI believe it's wokring08:37
curiousxok08:37
Krasikyes08:37
Krasikdio e08:37
Krasikdone08:37
curiousxpaste: aptitude search lib32gcc1 libc6-i38608:37
Krasikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/903547/08:38
curiousxnow: sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb08:39
curiousxand everything will be ok08:39
KrasikI think so08:39
Krasikdpkg: warning: downgrading fglrx from 2:8.960-0ubuntu1 to 2:8.950-0ubuntu1.08:39
Krasikit's working08:40
curiousxye08:40
Krasikthansk again08:40
curiousxi know trust me everything will be ok08:40
curiousxtell when it fhish its works08:40
curiousxtell me*08:40
Krasiksure will08:40
Krasikk08:41
Krasikdone08:41
Krasikbrb08:41
curiousxwait08:41
curiousxwhere you going?08:41
curiousxnow: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak08:41
Krasikback08:41
Krasikno such file or directory08:41
curiousxdoesnt matter, finally: sudo aticonfig --initial -f08:42
KrasikI don't think 12.04 uses xorg.conf08:42
curiousxthen reboot08:42
Krasikaticonfig: No supported adapters detected08:42
Krasikbut shoudl I reboot now, despite that?08:42
curiousxok reboot08:42
Krasikk08:42
Krasik_hi08:47
Krasik_okay, back08:47
Krasik_lost my resolution though08:47
Krasik_graphics show VESA08:47
Krasik_which I think is better than Unknown lol08:47
curiousxbad luck i dont know whats can we do08:48
Krasik_damn08:48
Krasik_okay08:48
Krasik_may have to downgrade to 11.1008:48
curiousxlspci08:49
Krasik_pretty sure the stock drivers work08:49
curiousxye ill do that08:49
curiousxyep08:49
curiousxi installed 12.2 in more than one PC but not in Precise08:49
curiousxi installed it on 11.1008:49
Krasik_http://paste.ubuntu.com/903558/08:50
curiousxi mean what is the ATI graphic card do you have?08:50
Krasik_it's cool, I've already set up the USB for 11.1008:50
Krasik_ATI Xpress 115008:50
Krasik_ATI Radeon Xpress 115008:50
curiousxan old ati08:51
curiousxwell try whit Oneric08:51
Krasik_well, doing a sudo apt-get upgrade08:51
curiousxwith08:52
Krasik_got 72 uprades08:52
Krasik_I think I'll just go with oneric08:53
Krasik_whicn is 11.10 right?08:53
curiousxbut this message "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected" tells that maybe 12.2 doesnt support 1150 maybe an older driver will support it08:53
Krasik_perhaps08:53
anthropostry using the driver picker on their website08:54
Krasik_I did08:54
Krasik_no linux08:54
Krasik_download08:54
Krasik_but I read somewhere that the xpress 1150 is very similar to the x30008:54
anthroposso it wouldn't let you specify linux as an os?08:54
Krasik_I dl'ed those drivers08:54
Krasik_no avail08:54
Krasik_not for the 1150 no08:54
anthroposcheck online and see if anyone else has their xpress 1150 working in linux08:54
anthroposwith fglrx08:54
curiousxgoo idea08:54
anthroposit may be a lost cause, or there may be some trick08:55
Krasik_if the upgrades I'm dong currently do not work08:55
Krasik_I'm downgrading in hopes it works in 11.1008:55
anthroposcheck online08:55
anthroposfirst08:55
Krasik_be back, rebooting08:57
Krasikback09:00
curiousxnow with ubuntu 11.10 ?09:01
Krasikhaha09:01
Krasikno09:01
Krasikjust checked to see of the upgrades did anything09:01
Krasiknope09:01
Krasikstill on VESA09:01
curiousxwell... cya09:09
kyoushuuIs it possible to ask for a package to be updated to a newer version?09:31
bazhangkyoushuu, which package09:33
kyoushuuzlib09:33
bazhang!info zlib09:33
ubottuPackage zlib does not exist in precise09:33
kyoushuuit's very old now (current one is from 2005)09:33
kyoushuuzlib1g09:34
bazhang!info zlib1g09:34
ubottuzlib1g (source: zlib): compression library - runtime. In component main, is required. Version 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu4 (precise), package size 49 kB, installed size 147 kB09:34
bazhangwhich do you need09:34
njinhello, who manage unmounting device during shutdown ?09:34
kyoushuuI need a newer version, the latest one is 1.2.6 (January 29, 2012)09:35
kyoushuuit is required by some of the programs I need to compile09:35
bazhangkyoushuu, to fix some issue?09:35
kyoushuuone of them is gwaei09:35
kyoushuuyes, it won't compile, it is missing gzoffset09:36
kyoushuuit is in 1.2.409:36
bazhang!info gwaei09:36
ubottugwaei (source: gwaei): Japanese-English Dictionary for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0b1-1 (precise), package size 213 kB, installed size 907 kB09:36
kyoushuuthe current version of gwaei upstream is 3.4.1, which requires gzoffset09:37
bazhangsomething wrong with the repos version?09:37
kyoushuuan upstream version needs the newer zlib09:37
bazhangunderstood, but is there an issue with the repos version?09:38
kyoushuuI don't have any other than that missing function09:39
bazhangkyoushuu, sorry, which missing function in the repos version?09:41
kyoushuuthe repos version doesn't have gzoffset, which is added in 1.2.409:42
bazhangand what does gzoffset offer09:42
kyoushuuit is needed by an upstream version of gwaei (3.4.1), that I want to compile09:48
bazhangkyoushuu, ok, well not sure what gzoffset offers exactly, and normally I'd say check for a PPA or backports/proposed, but I really doubt something like zlib1g would fit into that10:01
kyoushuuis that so..., I'll try to look for some alternatives then10:15
bazhangif you were to say what gzoffset offered exactly, I could suggest some alternatives...10:16
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kyoushuuI actually don't know what it is, but I think it's for compressing using deflate, it's actually just an additional function added to zlib for compatibility for some library. Though it seems like it really needs to be with zlib, since gwaei uses its header and other functions in zlib are used by gwaei.10:38
jo-erlendhey... The activity logger privacy settings has disappeared from System Settings?10:46
jo-erlendIt's coming back, yes?10:46
aamir_Hi, I need help on changing the user group in 12.04. Using VirtualBox and need to add my self under vboxusers10:47
jo-erlendaamir_, I don't know any way of doing that in the GUI anymore. But it's easy: open a terminal and enter "sudo adduser username groupname"10:48
jo-erlendso; sudo adduser aamir vboxusers10:48
aamir_thanks10:48
aamir_its done10:49
aamir_Thanks a lot10:49
jo-erlend_when I maximize a window, it's maximized on the wrong screen. Is this a known bug?11:13
jo-erlend_it's extremely annoying.11:13
jokerdinojo-erlend_: i still have the activity log manager in my system settings here..11:23
jo-erlend_jokerdino, you do, huh? It's called "Privacy" or is it somewhere else?11:23
jokerdinoprivacy it is11:24
jo-erlend_hmm. I don't have it.11:24
jokerdinocheck if you have activity-log-manager-control-center installed11:24
SlimGMy Lenovo X121e freeze up immediately after I hit "next" on the ubiquity where I setup my login, same thing happens on every dailo .iso I've tried the last 3 weeks11:38
SlimGI tried "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in the background, but it freezes immediately, and give no output before freezing11:39
SlimGI've replaced the HDD with a Kingston SSD, and updated to the latest BIOS/EFI firmware11:40
SlimGI've tried unencrypted and encrypted home, still crashes11:41
SlimGs/crashes/freezes/11:41
scriptwarlockSlimG, while you are using only as live no freezes?11:46
gnufsHi people13:01
gnufsI'm on 12.04, my first post-Unity Ubuntu install, and I can't seem to figure something out13:01
gnufsHow can I increase the number of workspaces?13:01
gnufsI have tried changing /apps/metacity/general/num_workspaces to 6 in gconf-editor, but it didn't make any change (even after a reboot)13:01
jokerdinognufs: that one changes for unity-2d, not unity13:01
gnufsmkay13:01
gnufsmakes sense13:01
gnufsany idea on how to change it on unity?13:02
jokerdinoyou can use myunity to change it.13:02
jokerdinomyunity > desktop13:02
gnufsholy moly, it's really there!13:02
gnufsthanks!13:02
jokerdinognufs: hang on.13:02
gnufsit works, beautifully13:03
jokerdinook, i was just going to point out that you can do it in gconf-editor as well13:03
jokerdinoanyway, have fun in 12.0413:04
scriptwarlockjokerdino, compizdonfig has that settings if i'm not mistaken13:04
jokerdinoscriptwarlock: it does too.13:04
jokerdinobut, i don't prefer suggesting ccsm if there is a better alternative.13:04
gnufsthanks, i am. i was expecting to hate unity after reading all the rants about it, and I kinda did my first week with it (i installed on alpha2 release)13:05
gnufsbut now i quite like it :)13:05
scriptwarlockdon't hate see this teaser... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCxAx1kLPw&feature=player_embedded13:05
mateo__Hello13:40
mateo__how can I configure the launcher to wiggle until I attend the event?13:41
ironhalikmateo__: yeah, in CCSM if I recall correctly13:44
mateo__ironhalik, unity plugin?13:44
ironhalikyup13:44
mateo__I can't see it :D13:45
ironhalikhmm, indeed :>13:46
mateo__could you provide the string to search?13:46
ironhaliksomething with 'urgent'13:46
ironhalikbut not sure if you can change for how long should it wiggle :)13:46
mateo__I can only change the urgent animation13:47
ironhalikyeah, its quite possible its all you can do there13:48
ironhaliksorry13:48
mateo__mmm13:49
mateo__that's unconvinient13:49
mateo__I don't want to miss emails or chats from work13:49
ironhalikhmm, the messeging applet should turn blue when there are pending emails in thunderbird13:50
ironhalikor IMs in pidgin/empathy13:50
mateo__yeah, you are possibly right, I'm talking about xchat13:51
ironhalikhttps://launchpad.net/xchat-indicator13:52
ironhalikyou could try that13:52
ironhalikAFAIK, they managed to script and integrate irssi into the indicator :)13:52
ironhalikso xchat should work too ;>13:52
mateo__ah13:52
mateo__lot of thanks13:52
loganvillequick question, I'm having issues with the visual alert full screen flash in 12.04, could you tell me where to look for logs?14:26
loganvilleI checked launchpad but wasn't able to find a bug report, so I'm not sure if I should create one or not since I don't have any logs14:27
sddhrthrtIs it possible to have wobbly windows in 12.04 yet?14:33
glosoliit is14:33
glosoliwhy you ask14:33
sddhrthrtunity didnt support it in 11.1014:34
sddhrthrtor 11.0414:34
sddhrthrtunity crashed14:34
glosolisupport afaik14:34
sddhrthrtah. ok.14:34
ix_<ix_> hello, why can't I connect to any encrypted wireless network on lubuntu 12.04? I can't even click on any of them14:44
ix_<ix_> the guys over at lubuntu are sleeping14:44
bazhangthis is the right channel, not #lubuntu14:44
ix_so is 12.04 going well?14:46
bazhangfirst have you set the ap using ifconfig iwconfig14:46
pyr0make sure you have the newest drivers first.14:46
ix_I've used Linux distros since 200614:47
ix_I am connected to an unencrypted network14:47
ix_so my wireless card works14:47
pyr0I have a linksys usb newegg special that could 'see' wireless networks but not associate14:47
bazhangso this should be a cinch14:47
pyr0I had to compile the driver to get wpa2 supported14:47
sddhrthrtHey guys I just created an adhoc network, with a passkey or without, but it doesnt  connect to itselF!14:48
sddhrthrtIs it related to the problme ix_ is talking ambout?14:48
ix_I don't think so14:48
loganvilleany ideas about what to do about the visual alert/bell?14:48
ix_anyway, I could install wicd, just to check if everything is ok with the driver14:48
ix_but I'm pretty sure it will go fine14:48
sddhrthrtand bazhang What is setting the ap in ifconfig/iwconfig?14:48
bazhangsddhrthrt, why would you want it to connect to itself14:49
sddhrthrtbazhang: because after you create an adhoc network, you haveto connect to it first, before others can use it, right?14:49
bazhangsddhrthrt, you mean an extender?14:50
sddhrthrtYeah, kinda. I have ethernet, and i want my roomie to share the conection. So, i create a wireless network and he connects to it.14:50
sddhrthrtWe used to do this in 10.04, it was pretty sttarigtforward. trayicon>create a new wireless network>configure it>connect to it14:51
sddhrthrtnow he could see it14:51
bazhangics?14:51
nabukadnezar43anyone knows how to add "create launcher" in the right context menu?14:51
nabukadnezar43i am using gnome classic with gnome panel14:52
sddhrthrtbut in Ubuntu 12.04, it says connecting to 'adhoc'... then it doesnt connect.. wireless network disconnected!14:52
maximiliushello. where would i lookup information regarding bugs of compiz?14:52
ix__ok, so wicd works with encrypted wifi14:54
sddhrthrtwhat say, bazhang ?14:54
ix__network manager does not14:54
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bazhang!ics | sddhrthrt this?14:55
ubottusddhrthrt this?: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing14:55
sddhrthrtNah, i already did that with 10.04. Anyway, tell me why this doesnt work in 12.04:14:56
sddhrthrttrayicon for networkmanager>create a new wireless network > networkname=blah, encryption=wep 128bit, password=passw>create14:56
sddhrthrtit says connecting, the ) )) )))) thing comes for some time.. then it says disconnected.14:57
sddhrthrtugh. this is irritating.15:00
sddhrthrtSomeone tell me, why can i not create a wireless network with network-manager?15:01
pyr0is your wireless interface up?15:04
sddhrthrtpyr0: wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any15:07
sddhrthrtfrom iwconfig15:07
sddhrthrtwhich other line?15:07
pyr0ifconfig wlan0:  Does it say "UP"15:07
pyr0if not try: ifconfig wlan0 up15:08
sddhrthrtwlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 68:a3:c4:28:e5:96   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)15:08
sddhrthrtthere's no up :/15:08
pyr0yes there is15:09
sddhrthrtok.. yeah15:09
pyr0UP BROADCAST .....15:09
sddhrthrtso?15:09
sddhrthrtse what i said?15:09
sddhrthrttrayicon for networkmanager>create a new wireless network > networkname=blah, encryption=wep 128bit, password=passw>create15:09
sddhrthrtit says connecting, the ) )) )))) thing comes for some time.. then it says disconnected.15:09
pyr0so unless it's a linksys AE1000 I'm not sure I can do much more... I did have the same problem but the fix was specific to my usb wireless adapter15:10
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sddhrthrtpyr0: what direction does the fix go? what *may* i need to do?15:11
pyr0I had to compile an older version of the driver specific to my wireless card, I'd start by checking the ubuntu "additional drivers" in system settings and then the manufacturer's website if ubuntu doesn't give you the option to use a different driver15:14
pyr0just because you can see the NIC as a device, doens't mean it's working properly. I also could see if in ifconfig and iwconfig but I couldn't associate to a wireless network. It'd even scan for networks but wouldn't associate15:15
pyr0*could see my wireless card in if/iwconfig15:16
sddhrthrtah. now i see something.. yes, ofcourse, in Additional Drivers, my Breadcom STA wireless driver is isntalled. But, if what you said is right, it just doesnt work. Should i waint for Ubuntu final release for ann updated driver?15:17
pyr0what make/model of wireless card do you have?15:17
sddhrthrtbroadcom15:18
pyr0do you know the model?15:18
sddhrthrtmodel: where do i check, again?15:18
sddhrthrtcommand?15:18
notifyhaha15:18
bazhanglspci15:18
pyr0lspci (card) or lsusb  (usb)15:18
sddhrthrtthey skip my tiny head :P15:18
sddhrthrtbreadcom BCM431315:19
sddhrthrt*broadcom BCM431315:19
bazhangdoubt it15:19
sddhrthrtwhy? bazhang15:19
bazhangI'd guess you are not setting it up correctly over there being a driver issue sddhrthrt15:19
sddhrthrteh.. you're not clear15:20
sddhrthrtwhat is there to set up?15:20
sddhrthrtit worked without any special *setting up* in ubuntu 10.04. Even here, i had installed broadcom STA drivers from additional drivers15:21
pyr0sddhrthrt, read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12355/how-do-i-get-my-broadcom-bcm4313-working-correctly15:21
bazhangyou've made sure the driver is properly  installed, associated with the ap, checked the correct mode, brought the device down then up all of those sddhrthrt ?15:21
pyr0check out the stuff on blacklisting the drivers that don't work15:21
bazhang<sddhrthrt> pyr0: wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any15:22
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bazhangthats NOT associated sddhrthrt15:22
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pyr0I also had to do that with mine so it didn't detect the card and use the new (but broken) driver15:22
notifynew (but broken) ? surely all new stuff is better :)15:23
bazhang!regression15:24
bazhangsddhrthrt, is that sufficiently clear?15:24
sddhrthrtbazhang: Yes, but the *associated with the ap* thing is not yet clear15:24
bazhangsddhrthrt, what it means? or how to do it15:25
sddhrthrtpyr0: I should apologize for not searching google with my model number.15:25
sddhrthrtbazhang: both.15:25
notifysddhrthrt: choose an access point (ap) and put in the key15:25
sddhrthrtah.15:25
sddhrthrtyes.15:25
bazhangassociate means ifconfig will show the ap15:26
sddhrthrtsee, i'm creating my own access point here. I'm creating my own ad-hoc wireless network. so, this is the sole problem - it doesnt connect itself to the ap i just created.15:26
bazhangas to how, check the wifi wiki15:26
pyr0notify, if only I could convince my wife...15:26
bazhang!wifi15:26
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:26
bazhangsddhrthrt, ^15:26
sddhrthrtyes, thanks bazhang . But the last step - it stays in connecting.. and then disconnects. I'm sure i've done all the steps - and its some other problem.15:27
pyr0bazhang, iwconfig will show the ap, ifconfig does not15:27
bazhangsddhrthrt, yet it's not associated15:27
pyr0if you're trying to use one wireless card as an ap and a client, I'm not sure that'll work, but you shouldn't need to use it as a client anyway15:28
sddhrthrtpyr0: isnt that the usual process?15:28
sddhrthrthow do you create a wireless network for others to join?15:28
sddhrthrtCreate a wireless network, then connect yourself to it. Then, others can see it. right?15:28
pyr0I have no idea, i've never tried it15:29
notifybuy a wireless router15:29
pyr0oooh15:29
sddhrthrtnotify: thhis is for fun, what we are doing. we could pretty much live without it than buy a router :D15:29
pyr0yeah but I don't think you can connect to yourself, you should already be connected when you create it, it's the other wireless device that should be connecting15:30
sddhrthrtanyway, my comp needs a restart. I've uninstalled broadcom STA drivers that jockey suggested., as your link said. i'll try the next steps and come back.15:30
notifysddhrthrt: i see. maybe i'm in the wrong channel here, cos i thought it was for support for 12.04 and establishing whether bug reports need filing ...15:30
pyr0sddhrthrt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint15:31
pyr0http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+wireless+ap15:32
bazhangpyr0, dont use that here...15:32
sddhrthrtYes, now that i'm done with uninstaling the STA drivers, i'm trying to instal15:35
sddhrthrtthe other driver.15:35
sddhrthrthey guys.15:47
sddhrthrtSo, after some browsing, it turns out Broadcom BCM4313 is actually supported after the 2.6 kernel in ubuntu 11.10.15:47
sddhrthrtNow, any idea how to verify the same on my computer, because i just upgraded from ubuntu 10.0415:48
sddhrthrtso it *might* not have been enabled, too, right?15:48
sddhrthrtshould i reinstall the kernel for this?15:48
ironhaliksddhrthrt: try manually loading b43 module15:50
bibinouhi15:50
ironhalikmodprobe b4315:50
bibinouI updated compiz and now my virtual desktops config was resetted to defaults (a 2x2 square)15:51
bibinouhow can I get my config back ?15:51
bibinou(i was using 1 row of 4 desktops)15:51
ironhalikbibinou: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity15:52
ironhaliknot sure if you can recover the old config, but you can set it manually :)15:52
bibinouthank you15:53
sddhrthrtok, now ironhalik , it worked, it started the module, but still the problem persists15:53
sddhrthrtI say create a new wireless network, it does, then stays idle for some time and then says Wireless Network - disconnected.15:54
sddhrthrtSo, i cant understand what the freaking problem iS!!!!15:54
ironhalikchill out :) broadcom support under linux is kinda crappy15:54
ironhalikfirst, add b43 to /etc/modules15:55
ironhalikcheck dmesg for network logs15:55
ironhalikor try this command15:56
ironhalikgrep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog15:56
ironhalikafter adding b43, try applying the microsft patch, rebooting the machine ;>15:57
bluefrogsddhrthrt, make sure you un-blacklist bcm43 in blacklist.conf15:58
ironhalikactually, bcm43 was replaced by b43 module15:59
bluefrogok15:59
ironhalikso you should make sure bcm43xx is blacklisted so it wont get in conflict with b4316:00
sddhrthrtwhat s the microsoft patch you are talking baout, ironhalik16:01
sddhrthrt?16:01
sddhrthrtpyr0: Hey, can you check if you have wpa-supplicant installed in your pc?16:07
sddhrthrtpyr0: That is , if you are using networkmanager for, well, managing network!16:08
pyr0wpa_supplicant yes16:08
sddhrthrtah :)16:09
sddhrthrtso, what is this, anybody?16:09
sddhrthrt(wlan0): device state change: config -> failed (reason 'supplicant-timeout') [50 120 11]16:10
sddhrthrteh? this is in my syslog..16:10
sddhrthrtwhen i tried to activate my wireless network16:10
Jeruvysddhrthrt, the supplicant is the software that manages your wireless connection.  If it's timing out then it's not getting the responses in the correct time frame.  This could be due to stale connection information or something with the wifi, or software level interference (ie:firewalls, other connection managers..)16:13
sddhrthrtso, suggestions? Jeruvy ?16:14
Jeruvysddhrthrt, remove any connection information.  Disable any firewall.  Ensure your wifi is a nice strong connection..16:14
sddhrthrthow do you remove any connection information?16:14
sddhrthrtthere is no firewall.16:15
sddhrthrti'm creating a new wireless network here, so there is no question about the sterngth=16:15
Jeruvysddhrthrt, I'm not uptodate on wifi managers in 12.04, perhaps someone else can advise.16:16
neyder_Hi there16:19
Will123456hey guys. if i set my background to an image then save a new image in gimp to that same file path, my unity launcher flashes multiple colours for the duration of the saving period. in my head i'm imagining unity constantly reloading the image from the disk very inefficiently. am i barking up the wrong tree? what do you think is happening?16:41
skyjumperlongshot maybe, but i just switched from mate to unity on precise, and now everything is noticeably more laggy16:41
skyjumperwondering if anyone would know what to check16:42
Will123456skyjumper: what's laggy and in what way? and what hardware are you running?16:43
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skyjumperWill123456: thinkpad t61 with NVIDIA Corporation G84M [Quadro FX 570M] (rev a1)16:45
skyjumperthe thing i notice most is switching tabs in firefox16:46
skyjumperbut also switching workspaces in compiz16:46
skyjumpersometimes that's 100% smooth, sometimes it's really jerky16:46
skyjumperalso i'm using the nvidia-current driver16:47
agoodmHi all, I have a multi monitor related ui suggestion for 12.0416:53
agoodmif its welcome =)16:53
skyjumperthe alt-tab menu has almost a full second delay before popping up16:54
agoodmskyjumper, not here...16:58
skyjumpersimilar hardware?16:59
skyjumperwonder if it would help if i made a video16:59
agoodmdunno this pc is a i7 920@4ghz with powerful graphics card17:00
agoodmnothing takes long :P17:00
krasikHow goes it17:01
agoodmhi17:01
krasikso, I downgraded from 12.04 to 11.10 in hopes of fixing my ATI driver issue17:02
krasiknope ha17:02
krasikstill no ATI driver shown in Graphics17:02
skyjumpersimple compiz stuff shouldn't be laggy on a core2duo@2.4 either17:02
agoodmwith 12.04 on multiple monitors if a window is maximised but not focused; for example its maximised on the other monitor) is it possible to show the window controls close min/maximise buttons?  Currently I have to issue an extra click just to close the non focused window as the buttons dont show with hovering...17:03
agoodmhope this makes sense17:04
krasiklol17:06
trismagoodm: possibly related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/74160317:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 741603 in unity (Ubuntu) "Window buttons disappear on maximized windows by changing focus to another maximised window on multi-monitor setups" [Undecided,Opinion]17:08
agoodmtrism, not sure this is the same thing17:11
agoodmI wouldnt call it a bug just an annoyance...17:11
agoodmif Ive got two maximised windows and want to close the one on the right I have to first give the window focus so that hovering over the top bar gives me the window control buttons17:11
trismagoodm: I think the point is that there aren't any controls there for you to hover over, visible always or not17:15
agoodminteresting17:15
trismagoodm: as it happens, it seems that there may even been hidden controls there for the wrong window at the moment, bug 86570117:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 865701 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "Maximized windows can be accidentally closed from wrong monitor." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86570117:15
agoodmit would make sense for them to be there even if hidden till hovered over so I can close without additional clicks17:16
agoodmive not managed to close the wrong window yet...17:16
agoodmonce focus is provided the correct window controls do appear just a usability issue imo17:17
agoodmim impressed though with how far unity has came17:18
agoodmdont know if its technological improvements or improvements in my own skills but ive gone from omg cant use that when I first saw it to using it quite hapilly with a couple of gripes now17:18
agoodmone question... I am coming from using windows as a daily O/S to having a seperate lower power machine for daily stuff and a power guzzling quad core box for windows and primarilly gaming...17:22
agoodmall my files are mainly stored on a NAS box which is actually a linux server with a bunch of disks in raid 5, currently in ubuntu im accessing these via mounting the samba share but there must be a better way...17:23
agoodmI thought nfs but I cant see workable way of making that work atm...17:23
agoodm(I run an it services company supporting linux server installations at a bunch of businesses)17:24
imnicholanyone know of a GUI for gsettings?17:36
trismimnichol: since the settings are currently stored in dconf you can install dconf-tools and use dconf-editor17:37
skyjumperimnichol: gconf-editor?17:40
skyjumperoh dconf17:40
imnicholAnd where are the values stored in dconf?17:40
trismimnichol: where is the file? the user settings are in ~/.config/dconf/ but it isn't human readable17:42
trismimnichol: the schemas for gsettings are in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/17:43
imnicholSorry, typed that in the wrong window17:43
agoodmto make a usb boot disk for 12.04 do I just dd the iso onto the flash pen as per debian?17:45
jtayloragoodm: there is a program to do it, gtk-disk-creator I think17:45
trismagoodm: yes you can just dd the iso now if you'd like17:45
jtaylorjust search for disk in the dash17:45
agoodmnice :)17:46
agoodmanother ui suggestion you probably have already had for 12.04...17:47
agoodmwhen you hit super and start typing the name of an app it would be nice to have the first one kinda selected so you knew which one would open when you hit enter17:48
agoodmand so its obvious you dont need to hit down twice first...17:48
trismagoodm: not a bad idea, doesn't really help to make the suggestions here though, you could raise a bug on launchpad or discuss it on one of the mailing lists (there may even already be a bug if you search a bit)17:50
spacebug-hum unity (BAMF) lost track of my empathy window17:50
agoodmI get embarrased making suggestions on launchpad, I always feel stupid17:50
trismagoodm: you shouldn't, the worst that can happen is they will mark it invalid or won't fix, no big deal17:51
agoodmmore I dont know how to word things clearly. bloody dyslexia17:51
trismagoodm: made sense to me17:54
agoodmI want my new laptop but the sender/courier sucked :(17:57
spacebug-strange. Both pidgin and empathy windows is no longer regognized by BAMF.18:01
spacebug-also all settings in CCSM was restored to default18:01
agoodmnetbook might be lacking in the power dept18:10
agoodminstall on my pc took about 3 minutes18:10
agoodmi think netbook is 15 minutes in and almost done now18:10
maximiliushello. where would i lookup information regarding bugs of compiz?18:11
trismmaximilius: good place to start: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=018:15
maximiliushappy reviewing all that :)18:17
maximiliuse.g. after i typed the password at the login screen the system wont switch to the user interface at all and just show a blank screen18:21
maximiliushow do i make a bug report of that or search if one already exists?18:21
trismmaximilius: do any of the sessions work? (if you click the ubuntu icon on the login screen and choose ubuntu 2d for instance)18:23
maximiliuswhen i reboot 1-2 or 3 times it works again18:24
sddhrthrthey!18:28
sddhrthrtwhat is dnsmasq?18:28
sddhrthrtdoes it run by default in a new Ubuntu setup?18:29
mhall119does anybody know if the LTS->LTS upgrade path is stable?18:35
mhall119my 8 year old keeps asking me when I can put Unity on his computer18:35
Dulakmhall119: I ran it without a hitch on my laptop.18:36
ironhalikmhall119: generally, you cant get any guarantees18:36
Dulakmhall119: ymmv of course but it was the smoothest LTS->LTS update I've had.  This is my fourth and the only one without any issues at all.18:37
agoodmwhats the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu 2d?18:37
agoodmand more pertinently how do I move my unity bar icons around in 2d :S18:38
mhall119agoodm: one uses the compiz-based Unity shell, the other uses the metacity-based Unity-2D shell18:39
Dulakagoodm: grab the icon, pull it to the side a little and it should detach and allow you to move it18:39
trismsddhrthrt: check out http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ for a nice overview of the changes18:39
mhall119Dulak: thanks, maybe I'll try it this weekend18:39
agoodmDulak, that works in normal but not 2d18:41
agoodmin 2d its just scrolling the unity bar icons...18:41
mhall119agoodm: then that's probably a bug in 2d18:42
DulakI'm running 2d and I can drag the icon off to the side and move it up or down the stack18:42
agoodmmight be using gnome shell then on this as ordinary unity isnt exactly snappy18:42
agoodmlet me try an update...18:43
agoodmunity bar across the bottom would make a lot of sense on 'vertically challenges' screens18:43
agoodmchallenged*18:44
sddhrthrttrism: Thanks!18:44
DulakI'm happy with it, the last update fixed auto-hide for me so I get my full screen finally18:46
skyjumperis there a way to configure the # of workspaces in unity?18:55
agoodmskyjumper, yes19:04
Fyodorovnaskyjumper, in ccsm19:07
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agoodmin unity 2d how do i reduce the button size on the panel19:12
skyjumperany idea where in ccsm? it's not under desktop wall19:19
jbichaskyjumper: open yelp and search for the page "what is a workspace"19:20
RedBunnyhow do you change thesystem font .,....?19:21
RedBunnyin 12.0419:21
skyjumpergrr19:23
RedBunnygrrrEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Britan19:24
MechanisMhello19:26
agoodmhi19:26
MechanisMhow to kill process? skype not dies.19:26
agoodmin terminal killall skype19:27
MechanisMI tried killall skype19:27
MechanisMkill ID_OF_PROCESS19:27
agoodmkillall -9 skype will make it try harder19:27
MechanisMbut it's still alive19:27
MechanisMwhat means -9 ?19:28
MechanisMit worked without it19:28
MechanisMearlier19:28
MechanisMbut thanxx -9 helped19:28
agoodmif you are having skype issues makes sure you use the version from the ubuntu repos19:28
MechanisMagoodm thanxx you solved my issue19:29
MechanisMyes I'm using the one from repos19:29
jinjorgeis there a version in the ubuntu repos for 12.04?19:29
MechanisMbut one with tabs is nicer19:29
agoodmin the canonical partners repo19:29
MechanisMI have ubuntu 12.04 x6419:29
MechanisMbut skype in repos only x3219:30
MechanisMi38619:30
agoodmworks for me in x6419:30
MechanisMfor me too19:30
MechanisMbut it's strange19:30
agoodmfrom the repo that is19:30
MechanisMthanxx dude19:30
agoodmnp19:30
MechanisMbtw what means this -9?19:30
jinjorgeMechanism: saw a commit for Skype https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/skype/2.2.0.35-0precise219:31
jtaylorMechanisM: see man kill19:31
jinjorgeis this what you installed? agoodm19:31
MechanisMwhen new gnome will come into ubuntu?19:34
FyodorovnaMechanisM, it has gnome 3 now gnome 2 is not supported by its own developers19:34
MechanisMI mean gnome 3.419:35
agoodmjinjorge, ??19:36
MechanisMhttps://twitter.com/#!/gnome look at last message19:36
UrBMechanisM: today if you enable extra PPAs for it (running it as we type) - officially, no idea19:37
MechanisMso gnome 3,4 released about 4 hours ago19:37
jtaylor12.04 has most of 3.419:37
jtayloralready19:37
MechanisMyep I'm on 12.04 thats why I'm in ubuntu+119:38
MechanisMohh okay then19:38
MechanisMnautilus 3.4.019:38
MechanisMhehe19:38
agoodmin ubuntu with gnome 2 I managed to have a little widget on the top bar which switched my cpu between different governors, ondemand performance etc.  what might an equivalent be in 12.04?19:39
jtaylorindicator-cpufreq mprobably19:39
MechanisMI've seen some at askubuntu19:39
agoodmumn exmpletive19:46
agoodmdoes tar -cvf blah.tar location/ not also include hidden . folders?19:46
agoodmjtaylor, how do I add that to the bar?19:51
jtaylorsorry no idea19:51
Fyodorovnaagoodm, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-indicator-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html19:57
agoodmFyodorovna, thanks installing it now20:03
Fyodorovnaagoodm, runs in precise I use it20:03
agoodmi take it I need to log out/in to make it show up?20:04
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agoodmyep thats spot on20:06
Fyodorovnaagoodm, in the terminal indicator-cpufreq & exit20:06
darthanubisanyone using kubuntu and just updated adobe flash, to find all flesh tones are now blue20:06
agoodmnice :)20:06
agoodmindicator-multiload also nice20:06
agoodmthatll help me to know on my netbook if its doing something as it can be slow20:07
agoodmbit worried about the update speed though...20:08
agoodmwaking the cpu up a lot20:08
jinjorgeagoodm:my apologies. my question wasn't clear20:08
Fyodorovnaagoodm, find apt-fast and use it.20:08
skyjumperholy shit, restarted compiz and everything is 10x as fast now20:08
jinjorgeagoodm: was trying to figure out how you installed skype as I had run into an issue a while back20:09
skyjumperanyone know why you can't alt-tab to pidgin conversation windows?20:09
agoodmFyodorovna, what does apt-fast do?20:09
mykrobinsonafternoon, all20:09
Fyodorovnaagoodm, use multiple channels to download much faster.20:09
agoodmerm in software center enable the canonical partners repo, then searched skype20:09
mykrobinsonGot a stupid question. Can someone explain the "unity launcher window dodge" feature that many are complaining about? I read that it is not present in 12.04, so I assume this feature is different from autohide?20:10
agoodmah, I get 21mbit with just 1 so no speed difference for me20:10
jinjorgeagoodm:ok, will try that. was using apt-get install skype and always got some dependency errors20:10
agoodmworked for me on a clean install of x6420:11
agoodmymmv!20:11
trismmykrobinson: I believe the dodge feature would show the launcher most of the time except when a window got in the way, such as maximizing a window20:11
mykrobinsonah. amazing how difficult it is to find information about this feature on Google, with the exception of articles talking about it being missing20:12
hostnodeHey guys, I have 12.04, how do I stop rekonq to come up with a search of a hotkey command in case I don't have the program itself for that hotkey installed?20:15
agoodmnew laptop tomorrow, i think im more excited than a kid on xmas eve atm :P20:17
jinjorgeagoodm:Thanks!!! I am up and running20:19
|Long|hi guys, who here good with x11vnc?20:20
KM0201|Long|: i wouldn't say "good" but i've managed to get it working before20:21
|Long|is there away i can config it run auto20:21
tuxhow do i play trailers on apple.com20:22
tux?20:22
|Long|if i close terminal is drop the connection20:22
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mykrobinsontux: you okay with using terminal for a sec?20:22
Guest62637mykrobinson, sure20:22
mykrobinsonopen up the terminal and type    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and press enter20:23
mykrobinsonenter your password20:23
Guest62637i'll use vim instead but go on ;)20:23
|Long|KM0201, can u help plz20:23
mykrobinsonGuest62637: uncomment each line that begins with    deb   except the very top one, then save. This will enable the multiverse repositories, etc20:23
mykrobinsonGuest62637: once that is done, then type     sudo apt-get update20:24
KM0201|Long|: it runs in the terminal, so if yuou close the terminal, of course the connection will drop20:24
KM0201i'm not sure how you could change that20:24
Guest62637multiverse are already uncommented out20:24
mykrobinsonGuest62637: and finally,     sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras20:24
mykrobinsonGuest62637: this should install all the codecs you need for virtually every multimedia format known to man20:24
Guest62637ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.20:25
Guest62637no dice20:25
mykrobinsonintersting.. lemme tripple check mine, it worked a few days ago. Chrome or Firefox?20:25
Guest62637firefox 1120:25
Guest62637all up to date20:25
mykrobinsonjust a sec20:25
|Long|KM0201, well, is there any other vnc can run automaticlly when system start20:25
KM0201|Long|: i honestly have no idea20:26
Guest62637mykrobinson, do you have an mplayer plugin enabled or anything ?20:26
KM0201you might be able to write a script or something to start x11vnc automatically, but i'm not sure how to do that20:26
mykrobinsonGuest62637: working fine here. Can you take a screenshot of Firefox at the address    about:plugins20:26
mykrobinsonGuest62637: no Mplayer here20:26
mykrobinsonLooks like mine is using VLC Multimedia Plugin20:26
Guest62637hmm20:26
|Long|KM0201, let me bug the x11vnc author see what hehave to say20:27
mykrobinsonGuest62637: you may have some conflicting plugins?20:27
mykrobinsonmy about:plugins page shows   iTunes Application Detector, Shockwave Flash, DivX Web PLayer QuickTime Plugin 7.6.6, Windows Media Player Plugin, and VLC Multimedia Plugin20:28
Guest62637mykrobinson, i have goole talk plugin, shockwave flash, java and itnes application detector20:28
Guest62637*itunes20:28
mykrobinsonGuest62637: each of these reference Totem20:28
mykrobinsonand not Mplayer20:28
Guest62637i think in uninstalled totem20:28
Guest62637when i first installed20:28
mykrobinsonGuest62637: all i did on clean install was install the restricted extras, and everything worked20:29
Guest62637mykrobinson, i'll reinstall mplayer and see what happens and then totem20:29
Guest62637thx anyways20:29
mykrobinsonGuest62637: try the package totem-mozilla20:29
Guest62637i hate totem and mplayer, wish they'd have vlc by default20:30
Guest62637its the first package most ppl install20:30
mykrobinsonGuest62637: coincidentally, totem is also what is working for me in Chrome. I dont really have an opinion of it other than its working20:30
Guest62637mykrobinson, ok i installed mplayer and totem-mozilla (which pulls in totem too) and its working now20:31
mykrobinsonbonus :)20:31
Guest62637all this for a 30 sec total recall trailer pfft20:31
mykrobinsonhah!20:31
mykrobinsonWill have to look that up, i remember seeing the original as a kid20:31
Guest62637kate beckinsale is hot :)20:32
Guest62637later20:32
mykrobinsonnice to be able to help someone for a change :)20:34
FernandoMiguelboas20:43
agoodmi cant remember how I got the fn+function keys all to work in ubuntu before... :(20:44
agoodmah buttons seem to be working now and i see wifi networks20:48
agoodmjust cant believe my tar -cvf didnt inc hidden files20:48
agoodmI could cry atm :(20:48
mkultra_make scripts that print them out then link it up to ur make files20:50
agoodmhuh?20:51
agoodmI shall be attempting forensic data recovery on my flash pen to see if the tar file I made of the most important settings folder is there in a bit20:52
mkultra_make a script that has "cat > .file << EOF then the actual file, then EOF" at the end then ./ that script20:52
agoodmin this case I tarred my home dir up; didnt check for files beyond docs and pics and then after reinstalling realised hidden folders seemed to be missing20:53
mkultra_oh yeah20:53
mkultra_i see20:54
agoodmthough earlier on when I was sitting in the garden I did tar the important hidden folder up and put it on my flash pen20:54
mkultra_you need to add a statement for .* also20:54
agoodmalong with a copy of other files20:54
agoodmI then dded the ubuntu iso onto the flash pen though so maybe that was overwritten20:54
agoodmmaybe it wasnt20:54
agoodmr-studio will tell me20:54
agoodmbut need windows for that so itll need to wait20:55
agoodmif ive lost it then its about 27 months worth of wireless network passwords :P20:55
agoodmbasically the wifi password for every site ive visited in over 2 years20:55
thiebaudeis there anyway to auto login to ubuntu 12.04?20:55
mkultra_lol do you have a biquad or something20:55
agoodmbiquad?20:57
mkultra_yeah a satelite wifi dish that goes like 3 miles20:57
agoodmno but I have a lot of clients :P20:58
agoodmwhen I access files via smb:// is that mounted some place for me?20:58
mkultra_smb vomit20:59
mkultra_id try to step it up to FTP or NFS dog ;-)20:59
agoodmnoones suggested a better way to access my nas yet... id use nfs and fstab but then wont my boot break if it cant be mounted ie if im not at home?20:59
agoodmsftp kept breaking20:59
mkultra_vsftp?21:00
mkultra_you boot from a network drive?21:00
mkultra_mr ur cool....21:00
mkultra_i always fail at samba and network boots, ull have to school me21:01
mkultra_why not have a 300 meg /boot partition on the local pc21:01
agoodmno21:02
agoodmive not got 2tb of storage in my laptop21:03
agoodmso ive got a NAS (its a server with a bunch of disks in it running centos 5)21:03
mkultra_i see21:03
agoodmabout 2 weeks ago my daily computer was windows 7, quad core, sli, heat+++ power+++21:03
mkultra_i just have my laptop at school21:04
agoodmive changed from using that daily to a thinkpad x220 with dual monitors and a dock station21:04
mkultra_nice21:04
agoodmso problem is how to access nas, smb works OK21:04
agoodmsftp dies on certain use cases21:04
mkultra_and NFS doesnt have the /boot on local machines21:05
BlakJakso.. any idea when the bug causing chromium to crash on first load is likely to be dealt to?21:05
agoodmnfs could work but I cant think how to make it work without manual mount every time on cli, problems related to if I take my laptop away without unmounting it first etc21:05
agoodmdont want to use fstab because boot might hang if the mount fails (?)21:05
mkultra_i just ran chromium first time and it didnt crash, however my schools net's sucking right nnow21:05
mkultra_oh right right21:06
mkultra_have to mount / unmount nfs 4 sure21:06
agoodmso there ya go, problem is now evident21:06
agoodmsmb works nicely tbh, fast etc21:06
agoodmbookmarked for easy access21:06
mkultra_are there any other nas technologies to choose from?21:07
agoodmbut if I want to manipulate files on cli i must ssh the server as it doesnt seemt o be mounted anywhere21:07
agoodmi cant think of any really21:07
agoodmnfs used to work fantastic when I had a media pc in my last place, 24/7 connected though...21:07
mkultra_i seen a comparison and SMB was at bottom of performance, and its generally a doze protocol and i was told to stay away from doze in linux21:08
agoodmit works and its fast enough for me... gigabit network and fast server though with raid etc21:08
agoodmthis pc in windows 7 can max the gigabit link out on simple file copies21:08
mkultra_im used to 100tx lol21:10
agoodmgigabit rocks21:10
agoodmget a cheap netgear gs108 switch off ebay21:10
mkultra_i dont have 2 devices right now21:15
mkultra_i think my home pc supports gb21:15
mkultra_this laptops 10/100 4 sure though21:15
agoodmah21:15
mkultra_does it do straight through to straight through?21:16
agoodmafaik gigabit can do crossover yes21:17
agoodmneed a cross wired cable21:18
mkultra_idk i dont have enough experience with it21:18
agoodmpc to switch = ordinary patch cable21:19
agoodmpc to pc = cross wired aka cross over aka xwired cable21:20
mkultra_right21:20
agoodmcrossover cables can also work with some switches if they support reversed polarity detection and correction21:20
mkultra_but gigabit uses all pairs on the wire21:20
mkultra_thats what i was thinking21:20
agoodmon a xwired cable the send and receive pairs are swapped at one end, so send on one end connects to receive on the other and vice versa21:20
mkultra_gigabit cards wired to run forward backward and roll over all at the same time21:21
DulakDon't all gigabit cards auto-detect that and flip send/recieve automagically?  Mine certainly does, I can plug straight-through cable nic to nic and it gets link and works fine without a xover cable....21:22
agoodmits the switch that has that function not the card in my experience21:22
agoodmmost switches do it though these days...21:22
agoodmDulak, could be nic specific feature21:22
TheSimkini did not realize gigabit used all the pairs.21:23
agoodmcertainly in my experience most cards ive used dont do it21:23
DulakI don't have a switch or hub, I just plug cable nic-to-nic and it goes21:23
agoodmyes every cable21:23
TheSimkinthanks guys, learned something new today!21:23
agoodmthats why a lot of installations that work fine at 10/100 fail at gigabit21:23
mkultra_yeah21:23
DulakI thought that was a standard feature...21:23
mkultra_they prolly need shielded cat 621:23
agoodmcus at gigabit the installation needs to be that extra bit perfect, near isnt near enough etc21:23
RedBunnywhere do you set system wide fonts ,.....?21:23
DulakGuess I just got lucky21:23
mkultra_i figured at the point of gig id go fiber crazy21:24
agoodmcat5e has been good enough for every install ive used gigabit in, with cable runs up to 50m provided both ends terminated correctly21:24
agoodmcat6 is for 10gige over short runs afaik21:24
mkultra_because of attenuation and cross talk and short distance of copper21:24
mkultra_i gotta go to class21:25
mkultra_l8er21:25
WilsonBradleyHow do I create an ISO from a CD in my tray?21:25
agoodmdd if=/dev/cdrom of=somefile.iso :D21:25
agoodmreplace cdrom with whatever the device name it21:27
agoodmis21:27
LetterRiphi is there a reason why the update manager seems to be downloading two copies of different files? ie wine-gecko21:30
danielcHi all. Somedays ago, after an update, I started to have some problems with the deadkeys of my keyboard. Anyone having the same problem here?21:41
danielcI'm using a us english keyboard configured as us international with AltGr.21:42
mrdebhi21:42
agoodmon the subject of keyboards ive selected the wrong layout21:43
agoodmwhats the easiest way to try the other layouts?21:43
danielcI think it is not the case. The same layout was working until some days ago.21:43
ChrisGagnonI am trying the beta2 netboot image and it's asking for a username and password, is there a d-i command I can put in the preseed file so it doesn't ask?21:47
agoodmlol parcelforce is in the future21:49
mrdebhi agoo21:50
mrdebhow r u21:50
agoodmgood :)21:50
mrdebgood21:52
mrdebsometimes ppl get sad, but it's ok21:52
agoodmlooking forward to new laptop tomorrow :)21:52
mrdeboh ok what is it21:52
agoodmlenovo x22021:52
agoodmpretty excited :)21:54
agoodmthe first laptop ive ever owned that actually has some oomph to it21:54
mrdebi c21:55
mrdebdoes it have nvidia21:55
agoodmnah its intel onboard21:55
agoodmim hoping its enough to run unity 3d smoothly with the modifications ive come up with over the past 3 days of trialling it on my desktop pc (Which is lol powerful inc nvidia sli)21:55
mrdebyes it is21:56
mrdebhd 3000 is pretty fast21:56
agoodmsweet, excited21:56
agoodmi bet the courier will therefore not come untill the evening :P21:56
agoodmsomeone remind me how to enable multi touch gesture scrolling please21:57
mrdebsorry, i dont know but maybe someoen else will21:59
mrdebgood luck21:59
* agoodm tries typing mouse into the launcher thingy whatever its cakked22:00
agoodmcalled22:00
mrdebtouchpad22:01
mrdebtry that22:01
agoodmgotcha22:04
kyubotsuit's caked dash, which then is a lie22:06
mrdebwhat22:09
|rt|has anyone here seen a laptop screen not turn back on after being closed for overnight?  I've seen this behavior a number of times with fglxr drivers and the laptop is set not to hibernate when plugged in so it should be coming right up22:30
|rt|the problem was resolved when using the radeon drivers...so I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the fglxr drivers22:31
ratcheerI cannot print to my Canon MP620 in Precise. Driver installation and setup was good. When I try to print, the printer status even changes like everything is working, but nothing prints. In CUPS, I can see error:/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed22:38
ratcheerAlso, the same printer prints just fine in Oneiric.22:39
ssfdre38hey do you know a way to have the installer menu to show up on the ubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 installer and not hit enter to bring it up22:43
Fyodorovnassfdre38, why?22:45
ssfdre38im customizing the installer a bit for me22:46
Fyodorovnassfdre38, waste of time frankly22:46
Fyodorovnaif you can even do it.22:46
ssfdre38http://images.ssfdre38.com/?v=FOaIJ.jpg not really and besides im bored22:47
LetterRiphi all i'm installing a more recent kernel (3.3.0) but for some reason i get to 'update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.3.0-030300-generic ' and it seems stuck/frozen22:48
LetterRipany ideas?22:48
Fyodorovnassfdre38, that would be considered not family friendly.23:00
scienteswill precise have gnome 3.4?23:05
Logan_scientes: "Ubuntu 12.04 will ship with a number of updated packages from GNOME 3.4 (such as GNOME 3.4), whilst others will remain on their GNOME 3.2 counterpart (such as Totem Movie Player) for stability reasons."23:07
micahgumm, Totem is on 3.0, where does it say that?23:07
micahgLogan_: ^^23:10
Logan_http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/new-gnome-3-4-release-offers-features-fun-ui-finesse/23:10
scientesthank god gnome finially has a power actions in g-s-s23:12
st1does "scale all windows" work for you guys? I just tried daily in livecd, it just shows windows in current workspace23:19
LetterRipie - update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.3.0-030300-generic - seems to have hung - any suggestions?23:20
Daekdroomst1, intentional23:20
st1Daekdroom: why would that be intentional? is there a bug report I can check23:21
bitplane-Hi all, since the upgrade to 12.04 Unity 3D isn't working anymore. I get a desktop but the panel and menu don't appear. Is this known/common?23:21
bitplane-I opened ccsm and Ubuntu Unity plugin is disabled. If I enable it then close ccsm, it returns to disabled23:22
Daekdroomst1, the design team changed the default, but apparently they messed up it in a way that in CCSM it's still set to show windows in all workspaces.23:22
Fyodorovnabitplane-, look in ccsm to dee if the unity plugin is ticked on23:22
Fyodorovnasee*23:22
Daekdroomst1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/93377623:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 933776 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Unity overrides compiz scale plugin behavior settings" [Low,Confirmed]23:22
DaekdroomSo no matter whether you try to make it show windows from all workspaces or only current, it'll show from the current workspace.23:23
st1Fyodorovna: I don't think you can disable unity plugin in ccsm now, there's no checkbox23:23
Fyodorovnast1, you can from inside the plugin23:24
st1Daekdroom: thanks, hoping it'll be fixed until release23:24
st1Fyodorovna: oh, I didn't know23:24
bitplane-is there a way to completely reset ccsm? I have a named profile in there that is corrupted23:27
Daekdroombitplane-, 'unity --reset' should do it.23:27
bitplane-thanks :)23:27
aguitelhow install cinnamon in 12.04 ?23:29
roastedhello!23:29
bitplane-ok, time to test this. thanks for the help... looks like it wasn't 12.04's problem but a corrupted profile in ccsm that wouldn't let me save unity plugin settings23:29
roastedhttp://i.imgur.com/aNWnB.jpg23:29
roastedour one computer lab @ work (school dist) running 12.04 64 bit23:30
roasted:) :) :) :)23:30
jinjorgeaguitel: there is a good step by step article here http://www.howtogeek.com/103691/install-linux-mints-new-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu/23:30
aguiteljinjorge, i am now in kde , it is possible to install it ?23:32
Fyodorovnaaguitel, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-cinnamon-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html23:34
jinjorgeaguitel: do you have the ability to switch btwn unity and kde?23:34
aguiteljinjorge, why unity ?23:34
bitplane-Yep that worked, though the inability to disable the unity plugin also means you can't enable it. well, you can from the button at the bottom when its selected, but it was confusing23:34
jinjorgeaguitel: I don't think it matters that you are running kde and now want to install cinnamon23:35
jinjorgeaguitel:the instructions that Fyodorovna and I provided should do the trick23:35
aguitelFyodorovna, jinjorge ok23:35
jinjorgeaguitel: try it out and report back23:36
jinjorgeshouldn't take long to figure out how things go23:36
bitplane-is it possible to customize the alt menu searcher thing?23:38
bitplane-I tried it twice and it seems unintuitive; I typed alt -> new in a terminal window and couldn't find "new window" ... because it's actually "open terminal" with no mention of "new"23:38
aguiteli follow this guide to add ppa but it say:E: Unable to locate package cinnamon23:39
aguitelthis guide:http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-1-4-in-ubuntu-12-0411-10.html23:39
bitplane-then I tried alt -> chat in this window, but empathy doesn't have a "join a chat room" in the menu for a chat window, so couldn't find that23:39
bitplane-HUD, that's what it's called. it's slow too, taking a second or so to enumerate the menus after pressing a key23:41
jinjorgeaguitel: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:merlwiz79/cinnamon-ppa - this worked for me23:46
jinjorgeaguitel: were you able to add the repo?23:49
RedBunnywhere do you set system wide fonts ,.....?23:52
scientesRedBunny, gnome-tweak-tool23:56
scientesyou have to install it23:56
aguiteljinjorge, yes it woked23:58
aguiteljinjorge, worked23:58

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