[01:58] <wasteoftime> hey what am i still banned from???
[02:10] <wasteoftime> imsick of this
[02:10] <wasteoftime> why do i keep getting banned
[02:35] <bazhang> wasteoftime, yes hello
[02:40] <bazhang> wasteoftime, did you wish to resolve your ban(s) situation? if so, please respond.
[02:50] <bazhang> wasteoftime, you're not responding; please don't idle here as you seem  uninterested in resolving your various bans
[02:57] <bazhang> that was orion I am guessing
[04:02] <wasteoftime> why do i keep getting banned dangit
[04:02] <wasteoftime> this is not fair at all
[04:02] <wasteoftime> just tell me what im doing wrong
[04:18] <wasteoftime> its been along week from #ubuntu thats the deal so the ban should be lifted now
[04:31] <wasteoftime> whats this mean
[04:43] <Corey> +r for a bit, call it good.
[05:12] <elky> AlanBell, if you want an example of what's wrong with -ot:
[05:14] <wasteoftime> can anyone shed some light on this
[05:16] <elky> wasteoftime, you're not getting unbanned because we can't trust you will behave, because you keep making up different excuses that don't make sense.
[05:16] <wasteoftime> whatever man thats the whlole reason im wasteoftime you keep banning me
[05:17] <elky> You are indeed a waste of our time.
[05:17] <wasteoftime> maybee i will ban all of you
[05:17] <wasteoftime> it is desired
[05:23] <elky> lol
[07:46] <elky> keep an eye on Coke in #u
[07:57] <bazhang> whoa annoying
[08:02] <amithkk> So this is the OpRoom :D
[08:03] <bazhang> the very same
[08:05] <amithkk> Where dcan I get the current source for ubottu?
[08:05] <amithkk> *can
[08:05] <Unit193> !botclone
[08:06] <amithkk> Actually.. I already have a fork :D
[08:06] <bazhang> #ubuntu-bots-devel  <--- best bet amithkk
[08:07] <amithkk> Anyways, did you guys put the ENFORCE flag on him/her/it?
[08:07] <bazhang> amithkk, pardon?
[08:07] <bazhang> amithkk, why not try that bots channel?
[08:08] <amithkk> ENFORCE is a NickServ flag that makes it impossible for others use the nick
[08:08] <amithkk> so, If ubottu netsplits, anybody can imitate him even without the pass :D
[08:08] <amithkk> just notifying it
[08:08] <bazhang> amithkk, try the bots channel?
[08:08] <amithkk> Whoops.. Sorry :d
[08:09] <amithkk> *:D
[08:42] <bazhang> lmgtfy gets me steamed
 where do i find the home directory in natty narwhale ?
[09:10] <Jordan_U> Seems like an honest, if poorly phrased question.
[09:18] <bazhang> why the secrecy
[09:18] <bazhang> rp-ppppoe?
[09:19] <bazhang> -p
[09:19] <Jordan_U> No idea.
[09:19] <bazhang> sounds like some cracking / sniffing or something
[09:20] <Jordan_U> Not to me.
[09:24] <bazhang> pppoe should already be installed
[09:25] <bazhang> not clear what the 'rp-' is for though
[09:25] <Jordan_U> Roaring Penguin software apparently.
[09:26] <bazhang> heh nice
[09:27] <Jordan_U> It looks like network-manager has a section for pppoe (labeled "DSL") in connection-settings, and pppoeconf seems to be a nice pseaudo GUI configuration tool as well (no idea how they interact with each other).
[09:28] <Jordan_U> I would start with trying network-manager personally, but I need to get some sleep so I won't be following this much longer.
[09:30] <bazhang> yep, and he quit
[09:31] <Jordan_U> I don't understand people like that. They admit to knowing almost nothing about Ubuntu (nothing wrong with that) yet they refuse to accept our advice as valid.
[09:32] <Myrtti> it's a common pitfall
[09:32] <bazhang> I have had to use that pppoe in fact with network manager
[09:32] <Myrtti> we refuse to acknowledge our own limitations
[09:32] <bazhang> very easy to use with a nice menu and all
[09:33] <Tm_T> or doubt things we do not know
[09:33] <Myrtti> especially when we don't know the people giving the advice
[09:33] <Myrtti> I'd probably install moon and Mars on my Ubuntu if popey would tell me they would fix it from overheating
[09:34] <Myrtti> but that's because I know popey
[09:34] <Myrtti> there's no badges in IRC to tell who to trust
[09:34] <Jordan_U> Fair enough.
[09:38] <Tm_T> that, indeed
[09:38] <Tm_T> having ops their hat on to indicate who they can trust? and suddenly only ops' advice suffice
[09:39] <Tm_T> hrrrrr
[09:39] <Tm_T> people do already call ops for getting help "because they know"
[09:39] <popey> irc + mailing lists both have this problem which have been solved by forums + askubuntu ⍨
[09:40] <Tm_T> popey: hmmm, how forums rate people?
[09:40] <popey> people can get 'thanks' and 'reputation'
[09:40] <popey> not specifically ubuntu forums
[09:40] <Tm_T> ah, yes
[09:40] <popey> but forums in general have ways of showing people have been around
[09:41] <Tm_T> yeah, post count is bad way to rate people though
[09:41] <Tm_T> I've seen way too much abuse of that before
[09:41] <topyli> popey: what is 'reputation'? amount of activity or sustained participation or something?
[09:41] <popey> it's one of the metrics you can use, certainly
[09:42] <popey> yeah, can't remember which forum I saw it on
[09:42] <topyli> the thanks/thumbs-up system is good
[09:43] <popey> yeah, many are open to abuse, the askubuntu one seems to be the best I've seen
[09:43] <Tm_T> topyli: most of the time yes
[09:43] <popey> getting badges for specific tasks, earning the 'right' to edit stuff once you've been around a while and got enough reputation
[09:43] <bazhang> best to abuse?
[09:43] <topyli> i think it was LjL at some point who suggested a 'thankyou-bot', which would allow #ubuntu users to somehow thank a helper
[09:43] <Tm_T> topyli: not on finnish tech news comment sections though
[09:44] <topyli> Tm_T: well over there you only have to bash microsft or apple and get +300
[09:45] <bazhang> w00t
[09:45] <bazhang> I would be at 10 trillion already
[09:45] <Tm_T> topyli: yeah /:
[09:45] <topyli> i can hear the sound of bazhang creating accounts on *.fi
[09:46] <bazhang> I need a finnish sounding nickname, now
[09:46] <Tm_T> bazhang: "jesperi"
[09:46] <Tm_T> done
[09:46] <bazhang> bazhanglyi?
[09:46] <topyli> c00ld00d
[09:46] <bazhang> hehe
[09:46]  * Tm_T shakes their head
[09:46] <topyli> ninjah4x0r
[09:46] <bazhang> heh
[09:46] <bazhang> Jordan_U, just let him install Vixta
[09:47] <bazhang> it is a picture perfect recreation of vista
[11:14] <Tm_T> hi Radium, how can we help you?
[11:20] <Cheesehead> Hi, I noticed that http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ seems down. Where's the best place to report that?
[11:21] <Tm_T> rt@ubuntu.com (:
[11:21] <LjL> not down for me
[11:22] <Cheesehead> If it's not down, then I'll be patient.
[11:22] <Cheesehead> Thanks.
[11:22] <Tm_T> ah, appears here too (now)
[11:24] <Myrtti> Radium: yes hello?
[11:58] <bazhang> Radium, hi
[12:14] <Myrtti> I suspect he is banforwarded from #ubuntu
[12:14] <bazhang> not that I can see
[12:16] <Tm_T> Amaranthus: hi, how can we help you?
[12:17] <Pici> Tm_T: hi, how can we help you?
[12:17] <Tm_T> Pici: I'm not unidentified (:
[12:17] <Pici> ;)
[12:17] <Tm_T> or wait, huh!
[12:17]  * Tm_T hides
[12:19] <bazhang> chemical attack!
[12:25] <bazhang> Sulfur, please dont idle here
[12:42] <ikonia> Radium: do you need something, as you didn't when you where using the nicname sulfur
[12:56] <ikonia> Radium: do you need something ?
[13:10] <Tm_T> ikonia: see the channel list, it's interesting
[13:13] <ikonia> in what way ?
[13:44] <bazhang> * [GIANT_BLACK_WANG] (~GIANT_BLA@www.nowhere-else.org): 166.137.137.107
[13:44] <bazhang> offensive?
[13:45] <Pici> on the scale of things we've seen, I say its rather tame. Lets see if they cause an issue.
[13:45] <bazhang> s/if/when/ I bet
[13:52] <LjL> sigh, kindergarten
 FAIL ERROR, CANNOT OPEN DISK DRIVE
[13:55] <bazhang> never seen that error before
[13:55] <bazhang> perhaps wubi?
[14:05] <bazhang> no response via PM with radium
[14:39] <bazhang> he cross posted it there
[14:40] <Pici> ah
[15:05] <LjL> bazhang: tbh while he might have an attitude, answering "!editors" to a specific question about an editor feature is not really appropriate either, i can sort of understand him getting a bit upset at this
[15:06] <bazhang> he is very rude to all helpers
[15:08] <bazhang> * fasta (1334259@xs8.xs4all.nl)
[20:11] <Pici> igh
[20:56] <ikonia> Pici: lars ?
[20:56] <Pici> ikonia: was thinking that
[20:57] <ikonia> seems "honest" though
[20:57] <ikonia> but same ISP and yet another "ubuntu is evil"
[21:00] <Pici> I gotta go. I'll be back in a little bit.
[21:01] <ikonia> enjoy
[21:10] <ikonia> ok - it's Lars