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| snap-l | Good morning | 11:13 |
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| snap-l | Anyone else having trouble with doing an update on a natty machine | 11:13 |
| snap-l | seems it just sits there and hangs trying to find stuff | 11:14 |
| snap-l | Ah, it appears it's Google that's having trouble. | 11:20 |
| snap-l | Wonder why that is | 11:20 |
| snap-l | http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022251.do <- Thoughts? | 11:55 |
| brousch | have you read all of your other books? | 12:00 |
| rick_h | the book is on my wishlist as something to check out. 90 pages, who knows though | 12:02 |
| rick_h | no reviews yet I've seen | 12:03 |
| snap-l | brousch: No | 12:04 |
| snap-l | brousch: Now go away. :) | 12:04 |
| brousch | then i say don't buy it | 12:04 |
| brousch | these are my thoughts | 12:04 |
| snap-l | brousch: Thank you for being my Jiminy Cricket | 12:04 |
| brousch | until you've read all of your previous purchased books, you are banned from buying any new ones | 12:05 |
| snap-l | brousch: Now you're just being mean. | 12:06 |
| brousch | discipline! | 12:06 |
| rick_h | meh, that's crazy talk | 12:07 |
| rick_h | interests wane and flow, you need to keep reading and allow yourself to not get locked down/stop reading because you don't feel like the one thing you've got left | 12:07 |
| brousch | this doesn't look good http://paste.mitechie.com/show/588/ | 12:08 |
| rick_h | I guess if you're a xubuntu user that might look sucky | 12:15 |
| rick_h | but if it's a real thing there's got to be more than one person behind it | 12:15 |
| rick_h | another leader moves on, it happens | 12:15 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I saw that | 12:15 |
| brousch | unless that new leader is an a-hole | 12:19 |
| jrwren | good morning | 12:56 |
| jrwren | when did vmware player add support for creating new VM? that is totally sweet. | 12:57 |
| brousch | years ago | 12:57 |
| brousch | how are you using vmware player? that only runs on windows and linux | 12:58 |
| jrwren | on windows. | 12:58 |
| jrwren | i used it on windows last night. | 12:58 |
| jrwren | i have a windows PC at home for playing Starcraft2 | 12:58 |
| brousch | rick_h: you see this? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyramid_appengine/ | 13:01 |
| jrwren | I've got to try pyramid | 13:02 |
| jrwren | django is so tiny and simple, seems like a framework should do more for me ;) | 13:02 |
| brousch | that's what all the django add-ons are for | 13:02 |
| jrwren | yeah, I need to find which ones are good and worth using | 13:03 |
| brousch | http://djangopackages.com/ | 13:03 |
| brousch | list and ratings | 13:03 |
| jrwren | ty | 13:04 |
| jrwren | brousch++ | 13:04 |
| rick_h | brousch: yea, saw that | 13:05 |
| rick_h | meh, frameworks should be small/not do too much for you | 13:06 |
| jrwren | fuk that. | 13:07 |
| jrwren | i want a framework to do everything for me. | 13:07 |
| jrwren | it should read my mind and know exactly how and what i want. | 13:07 |
| jrwren | and when it can't, it should let me do it all and stay the fuck out of my way | 13:07 |
| rick_h | yea, that's what gets you into trouble with in inflexibility | 13:07 |
| rick_h | heh, but of course :) | 13:07 |
| jrwren | no way, not me. i don't. | 13:07 |
| jrwren | its all just fancy toString()... it should help me lots | 13:08 |
| brousch | snap-l: http://blog.makezine.com/2012/03/27/oreillymake-microcontroller-ebooks-and-videos-50-off-through-march-30/ | 13:34 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I saw that | 13:40 |
| jrwren | http://www.anchor.com.au/blog/2012/03/bugfixing-the-in-kernel-megaraid_sas-driver-from-crash-to-patch/ sweet | 13:53 |
| rick_h | crap that like makes me realize I'm an idiot. I could never have gotten that crap figured out | 14:00 |
| snap-l | rick_h: It's just knowing where to look | 14:03 |
| snap-l | I think you could diagnose something like this if you had someone telling you what tools to use | 14:03 |
| jrwren | you could. | 14:05 |
| jrwren | it took them weeks working on it full time. | 14:05 |
| jrwren | i knwo I could | 14:05 |
| jrwren | i might have doubted myself in teh past, but after the past few months, no more. | 14:05 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I think that's the biggest part: getting over the self-doubt | 14:06 |
| snap-l | I mean, if it's between you getting a full night's sleep, or getting paged because the machine fell over, i think you'd move mountains. | 14:06 |
| jrwren | haha, that too. | 14:08 |
| snap-l | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8980735/how-can-i-verify-column-data-types-in-the-sqlalchemy-orm <- SQL Alchemy is awesome. That is all | 14:26 |
| snap-l | Not sure I'm going to implement it, but it's nice to know it's there. | 14:27 |
| jrwren | snap-l: interceptors are always nice :) | 14:34 |
| * snap-l is about to build a time machine to eradicate Excel from the timeline | 15:35 | |
| rick_h | that would be a great use of said time machine | 15:35 |
| snap-l | I'll need some funding | 15:36 |
| snap-l | and a pass on the laws of physics | 15:36 |
| snap-l | but otherwise, it's completely do-able. | 15:36 |
| Milyardo | if not Excel, then Lotus? Seems just as bad IMO | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: I don't receive Lotus 123 sheets on a weekly basis | 15:37 |
| brousch | snap-l: i do | 15:37 |
| snap-l | brousch: Oh that sucks | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Has Lotus 123 adopted ODF? | 15:37 |
| brousch | maybe if you kill the first spreadsheet no others will be created | 15:38 |
| brousch | hell no. this is lotus 1-2-3 for win3.1 | 15:38 |
| snap-l | Hm, I need to be careful, though | 15:38 |
| snap-l | If I kill off Excel, then ODF may never be born | 15:38 |
| snap-l | tricky | 15:38 |
| brousch | maybe win95 | 15:38 |
| snap-l | brousch: What the hell? Are you dealing with lawyers? | 15:39 |
| * snap-l has never seen a Lotus 123 sheet in the wild after 2003. | 15:39 | |
| brousch | no, i have one user with 2 decades invested in specialised lotus spreadsheets | 15:39 |
| snap-l | brousch: You have my permission to use the time machine to alter his timeline | 15:39 |
| jjesse | what???? 20 years of lotus spreadsheets? | 15:40 |
| jjesse | amazing | 15:40 |
| snap-l | I mean, I can see using some newer Lotus bastardization of Open Office | 15:40 |
| snap-l | but 1-2-3 is just... blech | 15:40 |
| brousch | yeah, the only thing that can extract info from it is excel | 15:42 |
| snap-l | and that can't be good either | 15:42 |
| brousch | it even runs on win7 | 15:43 |
| snap-l | 123, or Excel's import of 123? | 15:44 |
| brousch | Lotus 1-2-3 Release 5 for Windows | 15:46 |
| brousch | i pulled the floppy disks out to get the version right. the rubberband around them disintigrated | 15:47 |
| jrwren | ODF can DIAF | 15:51 |
| jrwren | XLSX for life yo. | 15:51 |
| Milyardo | XLSX can DAIF | 15:52 |
| Milyardo | LaTeX for life yo. | 15:53 |
| snap-l | jrwren: trollbait. | 15:53 |
| jrwren | i do love LaTeX | 15:55 |
| jrwren | snap-l: i'm keeping up with you :) | 15:55 |
| snap-l | duly noted. | 15:55 |
| jrwren | i do wish freeform spreadsheet wasn't as popular | 15:56 |
| jrwren | and that more programmed sheets like Improv would have caught on. | 15:56 |
| Milyardo | popular? Shouldn't be allowed. | 15:57 |
| jrwren | i remember getting Improv within minutes of first using it. then traditional spreadsheets rottd my brain | 15:58 |
| jrwren | now I can't figure out numbers ;( | 15:58 |
| snap-l | Once visicalc hit the scene, I think we were all doomed. | 16:00 |
| snap-l | and once people equated Excel with databases, that was the end of it. | 16:00 |
| snap-l | "Look, it has rws and columns like you programming geeks want. Now leave me alone while I crunch my data" | 16:01 |
| Milyardo | If not for spreadsheets, maybe we'd RDBMS's wouldn't have as prevelent as they are now | 16:05 |
| brousch | snap-l: it is scary | 16:05 |
| Milyardo | maybe we'd actually use object oriented ones instead | 16:05 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: you're kidding yourself. :) | 16:06 |
| brousch | zope is still alive | 16:07 |
| Milyardo | Me:"You know LDAP is a database too". Colleague: "False. You can't use SQL on it." | 16:07 |
| Milyardo | /facepalm | 16:07 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: Had they not created spreadsheets, we'd be buried in little one-off BASIC programs with DATA statements trying hard to perform SUM functions | 16:08 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: Exactly. | 16:08 |
| jrwren | CSV is a database too | 16:18 |
| jrwren | spreadsheets might be databases too, depending on what is in them. | 16:18 |
| greg-g | define "database" | 16:19 |
| snap-l | the base of which data is launched | 16:19 |
| jrwren | text book definition. | 16:19 |
| jrwren | launched? | 16:19 |
| greg-g | snap-l: thanks. So based on that, I think you'll all full of it | 16:19 |
| jrwren | define launched in that context :) | 16:19 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:20 |
| jrwren | I'll go with Elmasri and Navathe's definition | 16:20 |
| jrwren | i looked it up and here is the def. | 16:24 |
| jrwren | Collection of related data | 16:24 |
| jrwren | so we are not full of it. | 16:24 |
| jrwren | we are pedants | 16:24 |
| jrwren | if you mean relational database system, then say so | 16:25 |
| snap-l | Define data, please | 16:25 |
| snap-l | I have an hour to kill | 16:25 |
| jrwren | its a great question. | 16:27 |
| jrwren | i studied it very breifly | 16:27 |
| jrwren | http://jmcsweeney.co.uk/computing/m150/differences.php | 16:28 |
| jrwren | dictionary def for data is fine too | 16:28 |
| krondor | man I feel like it's been ages since I've been on irc | 16:40 |
| snap-l | It has been | 16:41 |
| snap-l | CHC tonight, early edition. | 16:41 |
| rick_h | woot! | 16:43 |
| snap-l | Also, of note: October 31st is CHC early edition. :) | 16:43 |
| snap-l | I think it'll be starting a little later | 16:44 |
| krondor | wish I could, it's Emily's birthday today though. | 16:45 |
| rick_h | happy birthday! | 16:45 |
| snap-l | What could be better than hanging out with a bunch of guys at a coffeeshop for your birthday? | 16:45 |
| krondor | hah, something tells me that selling point might not work as well on her as on me. | 16:46 |
| krondor | I do need to go next week because I need to brainwash a few people to help me test a few juju things. | 16:46 |
| Milyardo | How can XCode even be considered functional, what is this | 17:21 |
| Milyardo | How more difficult can it be to include a static library from another project on the same workspace | 17:22 |
| Milyardo | that's like the simplest possible thing an IDE can do | 17:22 |
| jrwren | iOS dev or MacOSX dev ? | 17:23 |
| jrwren | i know how to include a static lib, but I couldn't describe it to you. | 17:24 |
| Milyardo | iOS as a target for this particular project | 17:24 |
| greg-g | seriously, how do I get rid of this ugly black bar at the top of my gcalendar? | 17:36 |
| rick_h | http://code.google.com/p/minimalist-google-calendar/ | 17:37 |
| greg-g | ok, for Fx not Chrome ;) | 17:37 |
| rick_h | :) | 17:37 |
| greg-g | also seriously, Fx nightly is awesome lately. Especially with the new pdf.js integration | 17:39 |
| rick_h | meh, pdf reader built in has been nice in chrome for a while. | 17:39 |
| brousch | greg-g: embrace the black bar. it is your friend | 17:39 |
| rick_h | but yea, I do like the new firefox and looking forward to helping Blazeix get the extension going/tested so I can use it more | 17:39 |
| greg-g | rick_h: doesn't that just use gdocs as the backend? | 17:39 |
| rick_h | greg-g: no, it's got a native pdf reader in chrome | 17:39 |
| greg-g | oh, I tohught it just overlayed the gdocs stuff. I like in-browser/native/not using other's servers to read simple pdfs better, so that's cool. | 17:40 |
| greg-g | brousch: :P | 17:40 |
| rick_h | yea, so I actually use chrome as my pdf reader on my system usually | 17:40 |
| greg-g | huh | 17:40 |
| rick_h | google-chrome xx.pdf | 17:40 |
| rick_h | vs evince/xpdf | 17:41 |
| snap-l | Blergh | 17:41 |
| snap-l | evince is good for 99% of the PDFs om my machine | 17:41 |
| snap-l | there's only a handful that it really can't handle | 17:41 |
| greg-g | yeah, I don't mind evince. But for docs I want to be both digital-only and highlighted, I use Mendeley (I know I know, proprietary) | 17:42 |
| rick_h | my issues with evince is the gnome requirements/hooks in teh backend | 17:42 |
| rick_h | chrome print works better for me and it's already opened so faster | 17:42 |
| snap-l | greg-g: You have vastly different needs for PDFs tham most of us | 17:42 |
| snap-l | It was apparent when I read your eBook article that you're looking to replace journals / textbooks and not just tech books | 17:43 |
| snap-l | Which, yeah, you're going to want something other than evince. ;) | 17:43 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Bah. :) | 17:44 |
| greg-g | snap-l: yeah, I want to mark the shit up of my text-based information conveyers :) | 17:45 |
| greg-g | I do "close readings" or whatever the hip english students say nowadays | 17:45 |
| snap-l | What the hell is that? | 17:45 |
| greg-g | interacting with the text. marking it up, underlining, making notes, circling, etc etc | 17:46 |
| snap-l | greg-g: So, doodling. | 17:46 |
| rick_h | heh, and this is why he calls it 'close reading' | 17:46 |
| rick_h | sounds much better than 'doodling' | 17:46 |
| brousch | i thought i saw some apps like that for android | 17:50 |
| brousch | you can read and mark-up a pdf, search and such | 17:50 |
| jrwren | i <3 dead trees | 17:53 |
| jrwren | what greg-g is really saying is that he is into scrapbooking | 17:53 |
| brousch | the only good tree is a dead tree! | 17:53 |
| jrwren | pasting doilies onto pages. | 17:53 |
| greg-g | re: "so doodling" (sorry, Rowan/Carrie came in the room) no. instead of writing up notes in a separate document like "this quote on page whatever is good" or "I disagree with this point he makes here because..." I put it in the actual book so it is contextualized. | 18:01 |
| greg-g | haha, re scrapbooking | 18:01 |
| rick_h | ugh, I really want to get on the bike, but 30+mph wind gusts...trying to convince me not to go | 18:09 |
| jrwren | rick_h: and its COLD ain't it? | 18:10 |
| nullspace | whoose going to penguicon? and why? | 18:10 |
| rick_h | jrwren: close to 60, not bad | 18:10 |
| jrwren | oh, not bad at all | 18:10 |
| rick_h | I'm going because I'm talking and because my wife is heading out of town with the boy nullspace | 18:10 |
| rick_h | jrwren: but I never enjoy riding in the wind...but haven't been out due to my post-pycon flu and want to try out the clip in shoes | 18:11 |
| nullspace | rick_h: I don't understand why your paying to talk about something... don't you usually get in free if your adding value to the concvention | 18:12 |
| rick_h | nullspace: well it all depends. I've seen it both ways. | 18:12 |
| rick_h | I'm paying to speak because I like to complain on the tech track so I can yell more about how it sucks if I'm in it :) | 18:13 |
| nullspace | I tried the staff route to complain, that didn't work at all | 18:13 |
| rick_h | well I figure if I don't try to help I can't whine, so now I reserve my whining privelages | 18:13 |
| greg-g | All Whines Reserved | 18:14 |
| rick_h | exactly! | 18:14 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:14 |
| rick_h | and snap-l can't fuss at me | 18:14 |
| greg-g | I love that | 18:14 |
| nullspace | I prefer a reserve wine | 18:14 |
| greg-g | I might have to use that somewhere | 18:14 |
| greg-g | hrmm, now to try to figure out why my living room outlets aren't working :/ (yes, already tried the breakers) | 18:15 |
| rick_h | oops | 18:15 |
| rick_h | one of them have a gfi outlet? | 18:15 |
| nullspace | I can understand why the rest of the tracks would require the speaker to pay because it's a venue for them to hock their wares and books they wrote | 18:15 |
| greg-g | yeah, after that I'm kind of stuck, they aren't those fancy outlet-with-breaker-in-them things | 18:15 |
| rick_h | doh | 18:15 |
| rick_h | yea, I've been caught by a stray outlet on the loop that had the break in there | 18:16 |
| rick_h | spare bathroom on living room and the bathroom went taking the living room with it | 18:16 |
| nullspace | I had somethign similar when the outlet behind the fridge was a gfi in a line of gfis, the gfi behind the fridge tripped, major pain in the ass | 18:17 |
| greg-g | hrmmm | 18:17 |
| greg-g | lemme go check other rooms | 18:17 |
| nullspace | one gfi per line adn it shoudl be the first outlet in the line from the breaker | 18:17 |
| nullspace | any more and it's not up to code | 18:18 |
| jrwren | rick_h: i'm with you. wind SUCKS | 18:18 |
| jrwren | well, tailwind is nice. | 18:18 |
| jrwren | but you never get tailwind the whole ride. | 18:19 |
| rick_h | yea, but I'll be doing a nice square with it | 18:19 |
| nullspace | rick_h: I think what might change their mind is if they can't fill out the tech track because no one wants to pay to do what equates to work | 18:19 |
| rick_h | nullspace: yea, I'll be plugging bookie and I've got ribbons to hand out to ask for invites and such | 18:20 |
| rick_h | so I'll be doing some pub I guess, and it's not that $$ | 18:20 |
| rick_h | and if I suck, then I don't feel bad :P | 18:20 |
| nullspace | ha | 18:21 |
| snap-l | nullspace: I've paid to go because I like Penguicon, and I want it to continue. | 18:21 |
| snap-l | And yes, I'm speaking | 18:21 |
| snap-l | Doing at least three events at Penguicon, and not worrying about asking for the reduced rate. | 18:22 |
| nullspace | I like the promise of penguicon, btu the inner circle party of the staff and their draconian methods have got to go | 18:22 |
| jrwren | its a volonteer conference, yow ill get out of it what you pu tinto it. | 18:22 |
| rick_h | bingo | 18:22 |
| jrwren | its not like people are making $$$ running the conference. if they were, then i would have a different attitude. | 18:22 |
| greg-g | well crap, can't find anything | 18:22 |
| snap-l | nullspace: I don't know the particulars of the conference insies, nor do I care to | 18:22 |
| rick_h | greg-g: hmm, then might be in for some fun | 18:23 |
| snap-l | Whatever beef you have with them is between you and them. | 18:23 |
| nullspace | snap-l: you got a taste of it one year, completely unorganized | 18:23 |
| snap-l | Yes, and I still return | 18:23 |
| snap-l | because frankly it's not worth holding a grudge | 18:23 |
| snap-l | and the conference itself is more important to me for what I get out of it | 18:24 |
| krondor | it's had good years and bad years for sure. | 18:25 |
| nullspace | I don't seem to learn much except one-on-one with my peers | 18:25 |
| nullspace | you guys are what make it awesome | 18:25 |
| rick_h | well come to my talk and I'll try to learn you some JS :) | 18:25 |
| nullspace | hey now | 18:25 |
| jrwren | hallway talks rule :) | 18:25 |
| krondor | I still haven't registered a talk this year, but I did buy my pass. | 18:26 |
| nullspace | that's uncalled for | 18:26 |
| rick_h | I've got to start building my audience early | 18:26 |
| krondor | Last year I got the reduced rate w/ 3 talks but that was too much I think. | 18:26 |
| snap-l | And we have the release party in a separate room, which should be awesome | 18:26 |
| snap-l | pro-rated beer | 18:27 |
| rick_h | what? I'm just saying that you can learn outside of one-one by attending my talk. I didn't get into anything else. | 18:27 |
| rick_h | snap-l: oh that's cool. the whole release party in the bar thing hasn't been the best the last two years | 18:27 |
| nullspace | rick_h: count me in | 18:27 |
| nullspace | we can talk carpentry if we run of things to talk about | 18:27 |
| nullspace | I think I want to give a tal or two, need to hash it out a bit more, when does the CFP end | 18:29 |
| jrwren | i think it is the weekend of my daughters bday. | 18:29 |
| jrwren | or my dads. | 18:29 |
| jrwren | or something :( | 18:29 |
| krondor | hrmm are there any other tech centric cons in the MI area other than grcon (or notacon I guess)? | 18:29 |
| rick_h | jrwren: pcon is? | 18:29 |
| snap-l | nullspace: They're working on the schedule now, so the sooner the better. | 18:29 |
| jrwren | krondor: TONS | 18:29 |
| rick_h | well there was detroit dev days last year, and the detroit mobile dev days coming up | 18:29 |
| jrwren | what rick_h said | 18:29 |
| rick_h | most of the big things are in OH | 18:29 |
| jrwren | in the .NET world there are lots of days of .net | 18:30 |
| rick_h | but yea, there's a bunch of things around, you just have to watch for them | 18:30 |
| brousch | krondor: grrcon is supposedly a super-awesome security conference | 18:30 |
| nullspace | krondor: bsides detroit | 18:30 |
| krondor | ooh I'm adding all these :) brousch: Yeah I heard it was great I plan to go this year. | 18:31 |
| brousch | i'm on the fence | 18:31 |
| brousch | always am when it costs me money ;) | 18:31 |
| krondor | I heard a bunch of vendors walked out because they were mad it was all college kids and not sales leads. That makes it even better IMO | 18:31 |
| nullspace | still working on a venue for bsides | 18:31 |
| rick_h | pyohio is my next big thing, well I guess penguicon, but hardly counting as my 'big' event | 18:32 |
| krondor | college kids == future sales leads (short sighted) | 18:32 |
| nullspace | derbycon is my big thing, don't think I could get a talk accepted to taht | 18:32 |
| nullspace | that | 18:32 |
| krondor | derbycon sounded nice too, but if I'm making a trek might as well try 20th anniversary of defcon. | 18:33 |
| brousch | nullspace: is that centered around hats or crashing junk cars? | 18:33 |
| brousch | krondor: grrcon videos are online, so you can make up your own mind http://www.youtube.com/user/GrrCON | 18:34 |
| krondor | I think this year I might try to do a room party at pcon for rooting. Last year's panel on it was awkward. | 18:35 |
| nullspace | brousch: it's an infosec con organized by well know infosec leaders | 18:40 |
| nullspace | mitnick was there last year and gave an awesome talk with dave kenndy ( CTO of Diebold) | 18:41 |
| brousch | nullspace: mitnick is speaking at grrcon this year | 18:42 |
| rick_h | love this article, bring your thoughts to CHC while I scream "AMEN!" http://www.toolness.com/wp/2012/03/coffee-machines-and-community/ | 18:43 |
| snap-l | Just get a Keurig. :) | 18:47 |
| rick_h | bah! | 18:49 |
| nullspace | snap-l: I'm curious about those, what model and what's your experience? | 18:49 |
| snap-l | nullspace: At work they have this industrial-grade machine | 18:49 |
| snap-l | Has a LCD display and everything. Hooks to the water line | 18:50 |
| snap-l | Certain coffee brands are much better than others | 18:50 |
| snap-l | I like the Green Mountain Dark Magic | 18:50 |
| nullspace | our issue at work is that it connects to the water line, wixom's water sucks | 18:50 |
| snap-l | nullspace: You might want to get a water filter | 18:50 |
| snap-l | or a softener or use a brita pitcher | 18:51 |
| snap-l | I mean, if your water is crap, you're going to get crap coffee | 18:51 |
| snap-l | But, in any event, I'm pretty pleased with it | 18:51 |
| snap-l | But I think it's a combo of decent coffee and a decent machine | 18:51 |
| rick_h | ugh, never was happy with the flavor, and seems wasteful, and completely misses the point of the article :P | 18:51 |
| snap-l | I wouldn't replace my home mill & brew with it | 18:52 |
| snap-l | rick_h: I'm kiding. :) | 18:52 |
| nullspace | snap-l: thus some colleges and myself bring in water, our own coffee and use a electric kettle and french press. the results are excellent | 18:52 |
| snap-l | and yes, it is wasteful | 18:52 |
| snap-l | But, compared with the coffee of indeterminate origin in the kitchen, or the rocket fuel that gets brewed behind me, I'll settle for it. | 18:53 |
| snap-l | I like coffee with a little bite, not coffee that latches onto your tongue and won't let go | 18:53 |
| krondor | snap-l: yeah, I made fun of Emily when she got ours, but honestly the Keurig is pretty nice. | 18:53 |
| snap-l | They literally use espresso machines to make a cup of coffee | 18:54 |
| snap-l | It'll never be the best cup of joe, but it's a good, consistent cuppa joe. | 18:54 |
| nullspace | mmmm black-eye, my fav | 18:54 |
| brousch | careful with that stuff. i used to drink it, then i started getting angina from caffeine. now i'm decaf | 18:55 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, I know. I drink way too much of that stuff at work | 18:55 |
| brousch | was drinking a super biggby redeye every morning. 24oz of coffee + 3 shots of espresso | 18:55 |
| snap-l | brousch: OK, that's asking for trouble | 18:56 |
| nullspace | I suppose if my esspresso machien broken down my instinct would be to take the thing apart and fix it, while I'm there I'll likely make design changes | 18:56 |
| snap-l | nullspace: because there's nothing like creating an espresso-grenade. | 18:56 |
| nullspace | brousch: I drink at most three cups of coffee, unless it's crappy watery coffee, then there is no telling | 18:57 |
| brousch | now i drink a whole pot every day, but it's decaf | 18:57 |
| brousch | greg-g: i think this was the pdf reading/markup app i looked at before http://goo.gl/rR1rT | 19:13 |
| brousch | here's another https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qiqqa.android.qiqqa | 19:14 |
| greg-g | brousch: cool. thanks | 19:36 |
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| brousch | snap-l: have you heard of ccmixter? | 19:55 |
| snap-l | I have | 20:00 |
| snap-l | haven't quite found a place for it yet, though | 20:00 |
| snap-l | Though they've gotten bigger since I last looked. :) | 20:01 |
| brousch | if you'd like your brain broken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE | 20:07 |
| brousch | snap-l: i always end up with months worth of music from your instrumentalcasts | 20:28 |
| snap-l | That's awesome. | 20:30 |
| brousch | except then i become many episodes behind | 20:32 |
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