| RAOF | cnd: It probably needs a ping; I'm not aware of anything that needs doing on my end. | 00:24 |
|---|---|---|
| cnd | yeah, looks like it | 00:25 |
| cnd | I just pinged kees in case he could look at it | 00:26 |
| cnd | he's the only one that I know is in a reasonable timezone right now | 00:27 |
| cnd | RAOF, approved :) | 00:30 |
| RAOF | Excellent. Now, we wait for the freeze to be lifted, then upload. | 00:31 |
| RAOF | And by “upload”, I mean “upload an Xserver with a with build-depends on libgtest” | 00:31 |
| RAOF | -xorg | 00:31 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:31 |
| eruditehermit | is gesture support still broken in unity? | 08:07 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, hey | 08:07 |
| tjaalton | wouldn't know about gestures since I've no hw for it | 08:08 |
| tseliot | hi eruditehermit | 08:09 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, I was told you were the person to talk with about fglrx and hybrid graphics. Can you help me? | 08:09 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: what's the problem? | 08:10 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, first of all, is hybrid graphics supported with the packages in precise? the new fglrx 12.3 release? | 08:10 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: not officially | 08:11 |
| eruditehermit | I have always had more problems with the ubuntu packages than the ati packages from their site | 08:11 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: I maintain both and they share the same source | 08:11 |
| eruditehermit | in order to make it work, I have to manually mess around with update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf | 08:13 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, so if I try to make it work with the ubuntu packages, I should have the same success as with the official packages? | 08:13 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: yes, I think so. It all depends on your laptop/BIOS | 08:15 |
| eruditehermit | ok | 08:15 |
| eruditehermit | are you around for a bit today? | 08:15 |
| eruditehermit | can I restart and find out what was going wrong? | 08:15 |
| eruditehermit | ideally I want to be able to use amdcccle to switch GPUs | 08:16 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, how does the xorg.conf work? | 08:20 |
| eruditehermit | does the fglrx require it? | 08:20 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: it's all handled automatically | 08:20 |
| eruditehermit | so if I install the package | 08:21 |
| eruditehermit | I don't need to create it? | 08:21 |
| eruditehermit | currently it doesn't exist | 08:21 |
| tjaalton | the server uses fglrx if it's installed | 08:22 |
| eruditehermit | ok | 08:23 |
| eruditehermit | well brb | 08:23 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/903536/ | 08:28 |
| eruditehermit | I installed fglrx, and now I have no 3D capabilities | 08:28 |
| tjaalton | intel wins :) | 08:30 |
| eruditehermit | so my card requires both intel and fglrx to work with fglrx | 08:31 |
| eruditehermit | since it is muxless | 08:31 |
| eruditehermit | I've had it working in hte past sporadically and fglrx loads intel | 08:31 |
| tjaalton | no, you can disable the intel part | 08:31 |
| tjaalton | i think | 08:32 |
| eruditehermit | nah | 08:32 |
| eruditehermit | it requires it | 08:32 |
| tjaalton | then you can't use fglrx | 08:32 |
| eruditehermit | hrm | 08:32 |
| eruditehermit | I can | 08:33 |
| eruditehermit | its worked in the past | 08:33 |
| tjaalton | i'll just shut up, haven't touched intel/ati hybrid myself.. | 08:33 |
| eruditehermit | its tricky | 08:33 |
| eruditehermit | not sure exactly what is going on ever | 08:33 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 08:33 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 08:34 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: unless you can set your AMD card as primary in the BIOS, I'm afraid you can't use hybrid graphics | 08:44 |
| eruditehermit | ok | 08:44 |
| eruditehermit | got it working | 08:44 |
| eruditehermit | but I have to manually attack it | 08:44 |
| eruditehermit | to get fglrx to play nice with my GPUs I have to | 08:44 |
| eruditehermit | manually set x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf | 08:45 |
| eruditehermit | and I have to have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf from fglrx | 08:45 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, is there a way to make it just work? | 08:46 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: are you sure it works? | 08:48 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, yep, fgl_glxears works | 08:48 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, also glxinfo says OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. | 08:49 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: and did you change anything in the BIOS? | 08:50 |
| eruditehermit | nope | 08:50 |
| eruditehermit | there are no GPU settings in the bios | 08:50 |
| tseliot | I'm surprised it loaded the driver | 08:50 |
| eruditehermit | my discrete GPU requires the intel GPU to be on | 08:51 |
| eruditehermit | it uses the intel GPU for a mux | 08:51 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: I have a laptop with the same problem, I guess. If I can get it to work, as you say, I can probably make it just work ;) | 08:51 |
| eruditehermit | ok | 08:52 |
| eruditehermit | want to test it now? | 08:52 |
| eruditehermit | I have a Sony VAIO SA 290x | 08:52 |
| eruditehermit | 2011 | 08:53 |
| eruditehermit | hmm | 08:53 |
| eruditehermit | let me try with the iibgl alternative at auto | 08:53 |
| eruditehermit | maybe it just needs an xorg.conf | 08:53 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 08:53 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 08:54 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, any luck? | 09:02 |
| tseliot | eruditehermit: unfortunately I can't test it right now (I have some other work to do first) | 09:02 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, when I try to switch to intel GPU only, my window managers won't start for some reason | 09:03 |
| eruditehermit | I have to switch to a VT | 09:03 |
| eruditehermit | type DISPLAY=:0 gnome-shell --replace | 09:04 |
| eruditehermit | and then it loads gnome-shell or unity or whatever | 09:04 |
| eruditehermit | is there a place where unity or gnome-shell report why they didn't start properly? | 09:15 |
| eruditehermit | tseliot, seems to be that if fglrx is installed and I set it to use the intel GPU. It initially uses the sw rasterizer. Unity and gnome shell get confused and crash. However if I start a gnome-shell from my VT later, it correctly sets the rasterizer to be the intel dri driver and it works | 10:08 |
| tseliot | I don't think that's how it's supposed to work | 10:11 |
| eruditehermit | for some reason it is failing to load my window managers the first time around | 10:15 |
| eruditehermit | if I load fluxbox, it shows it is using the software tungstem llvm driver | 10:15 |
| eruditehermit | however, if I load gnome-shell | 10:16 |
| eruditehermit | it fails to load the wm | 10:16 |
| eruditehermit | but then I can load it from my VT | 10:16 |
| eruditehermit | hrm perhaps its my kernel? | 10:20 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 10:20 |
| dholbach | hiya | 10:33 |
| dholbach | hiya | 10:33 |
| dholbach | it seems my girlfriend has an interesting problem with keyboard layouts | 10:33 |
| dholbach | and I'm wondering if you've seen anything like this before | 10:33 |
| dholbach | 1 | 10:34 |
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| dholbach | http://paste.ubuntu.com/903691/ | 10:36 |
| dholbach | and the active layout is actually German | 10:36 |
| dholbach | where else could I check if something is broken or set in a wrong way? | 10:36 |
| dholbach | pitti sent me here :) | 10:36 |
| dholbach | "setxkbmap no" seems to make it work, but after restarting the session it's gone again | 10:48 |
| dholbach | ok, for now we resorted to filing this bug to keep track of the issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/967034? | 11:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 967034 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Updating keymap information does have no effect" [Undecided,New] | 11:35 |
| Darxus | tseliot: Nvidia posted a solution to their (cairo-gl triggered) memory usage problem, you were assigned the previous related bug, so thought you might be interested. Gah, copying and pasting on my girlfriend's ChromeBook is miserable. | 14:07 |
| tseliot | Darxus: sorry, where? | 14:08 |
| Darxus | tseliot: Bug 967149. | 14:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 967149 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Solution to Nvidia + cairo-gl memory problem proposed by Nvidia" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967149 | 14:10 |
| tseliot | Darxus: very interesting, I'll have a look at it, thanks | 14:11 |
| Darxus | Awesome, thanks. | 14:11 |
| tseliot | RAOF, Sarvatt ^ | 14:11 |
| Darxus | There is a followup post from nvidia in that thread also. | 14:12 |
| tseliot | good | 14:12 |
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| mlankhorst | hey :) | 17:30 |
| bryceh | heya mlankhorst | 17:35 |
| mlankhorst | hello | 17:39 |
| cnd | bryceh, I want to use arsenal for creating utouch bug reports | 17:47 |
| cnd | I see you recently added a search for subscribers of bugs for distro tasks | 17:47 |
| cnd | I want the same, but for all tasks | 17:47 |
| cnd | I'm new to arsenal, so any pointers you can give are appreciated :) | 17:48 |
| bryceh | hi cnd | 17:48 |
| bryceh | cnd, actually that was someone else's patch which I merged | 17:49 |
| cnd | oh, ok | 17:49 |
| cnd | ahh, I see it's chris arges | 17:50 |
| cnd | I know him well :) | 17:50 |
| bryceh | cnd, you can leave out distribution and instead specify the project(s) you want to pull from | 17:50 |
| cnd | bryceh, does arsenal support bug searching and reporting for non-distro tasks? | 17:50 |
| bryceh | yeah see the hwe reports for example | 17:51 |
| * bryceh -> breakfast | 17:51 | |
| cnd | bryceh, do you know if the timeouts we see when using launchpad.net will also occur using arsenal? | 17:51 |
| bryceh | cnd, unfortunately launchpad is flaky like that even at the api layer. | 18:04 |
| bryceh | cnd, you might not get those time outs, but there are various other issues that can crop up | 18:04 |
| cnd | ok | 18:04 |
| cnd | bryceh, I'm having a hard time understanding the lplib api | 18:23 |
| bryceh | cnd, join the crowd :-) | 18:23 |
| cnd | I know there are http methods documented here: https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html | 18:23 |
| cnd | but I don't know how to map an http method to an arsenal or launchpadlib method | 18:24 |
| cnd | for example, I want to get all the tasks by doing searchTasks on a person | 18:24 |
| cnd | how do I follow the toolkits and libraries to figure out what python code to call? | 18:25 |
| bryceh | cnd, ok here is a simple place to start | 18:25 |
| bryceh | apt-get source python-launchpadlib-toolkit | 18:25 |
| bryceh | cd into the scripts directory | 18:25 |
| bryceh | look at ls-assigned-bugs | 18:25 |
| bryceh | that's a very trivial implementation of one single LP call, but shows how to use searchTasks | 18:26 |
| bryceh | ls-series in the same dir is a slightly more sophisticated example, look at that one next | 18:26 |
| cnd | bryceh, what's the upstream project for that package? | 18:27 |
| bryceh | cnd, arsenal | 18:27 |
| cnd | hmm.. why do I not see scripts/ls-assigned-bugs in lp:arsenal? | 18:27 |
| bryceh | cnd, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~arsenal-devel/arsenal/python-launchpadlib-toolkit/files/head:/scripts/ | 18:28 |
| cnd | oh, I'm in the wrong scripts directory | 18:29 |
| bryceh | yes, it needs to be moved out into it's own project rather than be a branch of arsenal | 18:29 |
| bryceh | some day... | 18:29 |
| cnd | oh, it's a *branch* of arsenal... | 18:29 |
| cnd | hmm... I want to call searchTasks without specifying the project or distro... | 18:32 |
| bryceh | I think you have to do one or the other | 18:33 |
| bryceh | however, you could retrieve a list of all projects and distros and then iterate over those, calling searchTasks on each and building a collection | 18:33 |
| bryceh | might take a while to run... ;-) | 18:34 |
| cnd | the http api seems to show that it's possible | 18:35 |
| cnd | I need to figure out how to code it though | 18:35 |
| bryceh | cnd, ls-team-subscribed-packages.py shows how to get a person (aka team) object. You can then call searchTasks() on it | 18:41 |
| cnd | I'll try it | 18:41 |
| cnd | bryceh, well, I think I'm trying to search for all bugs subscribed by utouch-bugs :) | 18:55 |
| cnd | it's taking a while and just sitting there... | 18:55 |
| cnd | I assume if I did it wrong I would get an immediate error | 18:56 |
| cnd | hmm, 503: Service Unavailable | 18:56 |
| cnd | timeout error | 18:57 |
| cnd | so I guess this doesn't let us get around the timeout | 18:57 |
| bryceh | cnd, can't say I didn't warn you upfront. ;-) | 18:59 |
| cnd | yeah | 18:59 |
| cnd | it was worth a shot | 18:59 |
| bryceh | cnd, I do wish they had a different timeout setting for command line apps than for the web | 19:00 |
| bryceh | cnd, often with those time outs the problem is that you're retrieving too much data in one go. | 19:00 |
| bryceh | cnd, there's a trick I know of to batch it up... dunno if it'd make any difference though. hang on | 19:00 |
| cnd | in this case, they just have a backend sql query that takes too long | 19:01 |
| bryceh | s/batch it up/parcel it out/ | 19:01 |
| bryceh | ah, yeah then in that case you're just screwed | 19:01 |
| bryceh | cnd, what I was thinking of is in the Collection section on https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib | 19:03 |
| bryceh | cnd, you can retrieve just a fixed number of items, so if the problem was just too much data, that might help in dividing it into smaller chunks that would not trip the time out | 19:04 |
| cnd | ok | 19:04 |
| bryceh | however I don't think that'd do the trick here. might be worth trying, dunno | 19:04 |
| cnd | I think we'll stick to all bugs in specific projects and ubuntu packages, and add in all tasks of ubuntu packages that are directly subscribed by the utouch-bugs team | 19:05 |
| cnd | both of those (usually) work without timing out | 19:05 |
| bryceh | cnd, *nod* makes sense | 19:05 |
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| bdmurray | does ppa-purge with xorg-edgers and precise? I discovered I had that ppa enabled and don't want it anymore and ppa-purge created a list of 550 things for me to review | 19:45 |
| bryceh | bdmurray, I've not heard anything about it not working. but 550 things sounds a bit excessive | 19:47 |
| bdmurray | is there some other way to get back to precise besides ppa-purge? | 19:49 |
| Sarvatt | bdmurray: ppa-purge doesn't work with multiarch if you're on amd64 | 19:55 |
| Sarvatt | basically you want to apt-get install package/precise for every package you have installed from edgers, dpkg -l then grep sarvatt or ricotz or edgers to find them all | 19:55 |
| Sarvatt | http://paste.ubuntu.com/904473/ should be most of it | 19:55 |
| Sarvatt | (after disabling the ppa and doing an apt-get update) | 19:56 |
| bdmurray | Sarvatt: ah, yep I'm on amd64 | 19:57 |
| Sarvatt | removing wine1.4 first helps | 20:00 |
| FernandoMiguel | boas | 20:43 |
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